New York Yankees

[thestand]

That March/April was supposed to be 1-4, not 4-1. My bad.

[thestand]

whats his playoff stats look like?

Why is this relevant? We're talking about April here. He's pitched in the month of April 8 years, making 40+ starts. Very easy to make a projection off of that trend. In the post season, he's pitched 5 times. Would not be smart to take anything away from that.

[crashintonickdm]

Why is this relevant? We're talking about April here. He's pitched in the month of April 8 years, making 40+ starts. Very easy to make a projection off of that trend. In the post season, he's pitched 5 times. Would not be smart to take anything away from that.

whoa man, i just asked you a question. and its relevant because you havent gotten out of the ALDS in a few years and he hasnt done well in october.

you spent alot of money on the dude.

[hbktonyb]

At least Hughes is showing that is first start wasn't a fluke

[stayorleave83]

:lol :lol at the text poll results. 69% say cano is best 2nd baseman in AL

[Trippin4136]

Any time now fellas....maybe you want to beat Boston. It sounds like a good thing to do.

[Ascf33]

That was fucking gross.

Should have at least tied it in the 8th and 9th.

[thebestauntie]

That was fucking gross.

Should have at least tied it in the 8th and 9th.
I didn't mind it. :)

[hbktonyb]

Arod can't come soon enough...at least I'll have something good to watch

[RhodyDMBFan]

I'm about 3/4 finished with the Verducci/Torre book. Who else has read it? All the hype was taken way out of context. Reading this book has given me a newfound respect for Torre and especially for David Cone. I'd love to read a book about his career.

I know the stories are told just from Joe's perspective, but it's painfully obvious the team management gave him broken teams to work with, especially since 2003.

[hbktonyb]

I'm about 3/4 finished with the Verducci/Torre book. Who else has read it? All the hype was taken way out of context. Reading this book has given me a newfound respect for Torre and especially for David Cone. I'd love to read a book about his career.

I know the stories are told just from Joe's perspective, but it's painfully obvious the team management gave him broken teams to work with, especially since 2003.

I read it. It seems pretty obvious that Cone/Moose/Posada/ONeill were real leaders of the team, Jeter took a quieter approach.

[jmudmbphan]

I'm about 3/4 finished with the Verducci/Torre book. Who else has read it? All the hype was taken way out of context. Reading this book has given me a newfound respect for Torre and especially for David Cone. I'd love to read a book about his career.

I know the stories are told just from Joe's perspective, but it's painfully obvious the team management gave him broken teams to work with, especially since 2003.

I'm about 2/3 the way through. Great book, makes me appreciate torre even more....and hate kevin brown and Carl Pavano more than I did before, and I didnt even think that was possible.

[milo420dmb]

Off topic a bit:
Joba's mom gets picked up for slinging Meth (http://blogs.usatoday.com/gameon/2009/05/joba-chamberlains-mom-facing-drug-charges.html)

I swear to god the Yankees have had more off field distractions this year then any other year I can remember

[Crush086]

Off topic a bit:
Joba's mom gets picked up for slinging Meth (http://blogs.usatoday.com/gameon/2009/05/joba-chamberlains-mom-facing-drug-charges.html)

I swear to god the Yankees have had more off field distractions this year then any other year I can remember
Not even relevant... at all.

It was on MSN's top sports topics too. Once again, totally unrelated to sports.

[pathetic]

Off topic a bit:
Joba's mom gets picked up for slinging Meth (http://blogs.usatoday.com/gameon/2009/05/joba-chamberlains-mom-facing-drug-charges.html)

I swear to god the Yankees have had more off field distractions this year then any other year I can remember

what a classy family

[RhodyDMBFan]

what a classy family

Right. The mom he has no relationship with is much worse than Dustin Pedroia's brother being a child molester. (http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2009/01/25/dustin-pedroias-brother-arrested-on-child-molestation-charges/)

[RhodyDMBFan]

I'm about 2/3 the way through. Great book, makes me appreciate torre even more....and hate kevin brown and Carl Pavano more than I did before, and I didnt even think that was possible.

Did you get to the part where Mussina refers to the DL as The Pavano? :lol I wish I had the book in front of me because the line was f'n brilliant.

[hbktonyb]

Jorge DL. great.

[RhodyDMBFan]

Jorge DL. great.

That's what we get with a 37 year old catcher. But don't worry...it's not like hamstrings are nagging injuries or anything. :BANG

[milo420dmb]

Jorge DL. great.

as soon as I saw him wince and stretch his hammy out last night, I had a feeling he was heading to the DL..

[HoldemHart]

what a classy family

The irony of this statement is brilliant.

[scrock25]

Great year. Best player starts on the DL, one of our top rotation guys isn't right and on the dl, catcher back on the dl, can't beat boston.....how in the FUCK do these guys continue to get these hamstring injurys. They work out and play the game FOR A LIVING....

[Lcsulla]

Looks like you spend it accumulating close to 30,000 posts on a message board.

You asked.

You're probably up over 40k posts if we totaled the post counts from all 172 accounts you have made....

[RhodyDMBFan]

Great year. Best player starts on the DL, one of our top rotation guys isn't right and on the dl, catcher back on the dl, can't beat boston.....how in the FUCK do these guys continue to get these hamstring injurys. They work out and play the game FOR A LIVING....

The real motherfuck of the situation is with a $200 million payroll somehow there's absolutely nobody to fill in for the inevitable injuries. Cody Ransom and Jose Molina as the bench guys? These two clowns probably wouldn't even make the Nationals as bench players. The Yankees have the means to get any player they want, yet they skimp on the role players all the time. :BANG

[hbktonyb]

Great year. Best player starts on the DL, one of our top rotation guys isn't right and on the dl, catcher back on the dl, can't beat boston.....how in the FUCK do these guys continue to get these hamstring injurys. They work out and play the game FOR A LIVING....

I give up. Time to get younger. Oh wait, I forgot, its impossible to get younger w/ these contracts.

[RhodyDMBFan]

I give up. Time to get younger. Oh wait, I forgot, its impossible to get younger w/ these contracts.

Other than A-Rod what contract is killing us for the long haul? Jorge is done after 2010 (I hope). Mo will retire at the end of his deal. Teix is young and worth the money. Cano is under 25. Jeets - yeah that'll be a problem. The OF will be all new and young next year, even Swisher is barely 30.

Wang - if he turns it around ever is 27
CC - sure they signed him for 7 years but he can opt out after 4 and I sure hope he does
Pettitte - retire after this year
Burnett - stupid contract
Joba/Hughes/Kennedy - under 25 and awesome.

It's just this year really that will blow. Of course they'll stick around long enough to not be sellers at the deadline, but not be good enough to go anywhere in the playoffs so it'll be a wasted year. The sooner you realize this the easier baseball season becomes.

[Trippin4136]

With Melancon, Jackson, Brackman, Montero, Nunez, Romine, etc. coming up in 2010-2012 will make the team younger. You just need patience.

[hbktonyb]

Yeah, I guess Jorge/Damon/Matsui will be out of their contracts soon enough. It will be very interesting to see what they do w/ Jete

[milo420dmb]

Didn't Jorge sign a 4 yr. deal after the '07 season?

if so, that wouldn't make him a FA until 2011

[scrock25]

Yes.

[RhodyDMBFan]

Didn't Jorge sign a 4 yr. deal after the '07 season?

if so, that wouldn't make him a FA until 2011

Fuck. Well with Matsui & Damon gone that frees up DH for Posada since he clearly can't catch more than 100 games anymore.

[milo420dmb]

Fuck. Well with Matsui & Damon gone that frees up DH for Posada since he clearly can't catch more than 100 games anymore.

I am not positive on that about Jorge... It was more of a question then a statement b/c I am honestly not sure if that is his contract..

[Ascf33]

FA in 2011.

[pathetic]

Great year. Best player starts on the DL, one of our top rotation guys isn't right and on the dl, catcher back on the dl, can't beat boston.....how in the FUCK do these guys continue to get these hamstring injurys. They work out and play the game FOR A LIVING....

:lol i wonder the same damn thing everytime i see them stretching and shit before the game!

[crashintome202]

same shit
different day

too many sliders: yankees season 09

[hbktonyb]

I'm officially done w/ Joba as a starter. I hope Wang comes back strong so they can move him out of the rotation and into the 8th inning where he belongs.

[crashintome202]

I'm officially done w/ Joba as a starter. I hope Wang comes back strong so they can move him out of the rotation and into the 8th inning where he belongs.
:lol:lol:lol

[hbktonyb]

I may have 2 tickets available for Thursday night's game. If interested let me know...its 50/50 right now but I'll know by tomorrow.

[hbktonyb]

:lol:lol:lol

IF Wang comes back strong I'm willing to bet they move him.

[thestand]

So Joba has one terrible inning, and then starts dropping rapes. Definitely sounds like someone you want in the 8th. :lol

The bullpen argument becomes even weaker today. In his first inning in the game, he gets blown up. Wouldn't you love that to happen in the 8th, instead of the 1st?

[thestand]

Today literally is the epitome of why he shouldn't be in the pen, now that he's been trained to be a MLB starter... and people will still try to use today to argue it. :lol I have to wonder if people actually listen to themselves at times, once they have an idea in their head.

[hbktonyb]

Today literally is the epitome of why he shouldn't be in the pen, now that he's been trained to be a MLB starter... and people will still try to use today to argue it. :lol I have to wonder if people actually listen to themselves at times, once they have an idea in their head.

I think it is more of a mental thing w/ Joba. He feeds off crowd emotion. The crowd is dead in the first inning, but pumped in the 8th, especially up by a run.

[thestand]

But if that's true, than Pettitte should be in the pen, too. I was looking at his inning splits (nerd, I know) the other day, and his roughest inning is almost always the first. But when he gets through it, he improves.

Joba tonight is showing the dominant starter he can be. He had one bad inning against the top of the Red Sox's order, which any pitcher can do, and has since coasted through the rest of the game. Tonight may have just been the starting point for his dominant career as a starter. Against the Red Sox at home, 12Ks in 5.2? I think it sounds like it.

[Trippin4136]

Yea, wow, Joba can't start. He only threw pills for 15 straight hitters.

Yes his first inning sucked, but it happens.

As for Joe pulling him right here....WHY? No reason to not let him finish the inning.

[hbktonyb]

I'm just stubborn. Joba pitched lights out after the first.

I hate Girardi

[Trippin4136]

G GS W L SV BS HLD CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA
Pitch 1-15 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.1 4 5 5 1 1 1 13.50 1.50 .308
Pitch 16-30 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4.0 2 1 0 1 3 4 0.00 1.25 .182
Pitch 31-45 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.2 3 2 2 0 4 2 4.91 1.91 .273
Pitch 46-60 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2.2 1 0 0 0 2 6 0.00 1.13 .100
Pitch 61-75 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4.0 3 2 0 0 2 3 0.00 1.25 .200
Pitch 76-90 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4.2 5 1 1 0 1 1 1.93 1.29 .278
Pitch 91-105 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.2 4 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 6.00 .800

Give you an idea of what the problem is?

He just needs to learn to start the game more aggressively

[hbktonyb]

So if we go winless against the Sox this year can we still make the playoffs?

[hbktonyb]

Disgusted. Embarassed once again.

[mr. testaverde]

our bullpen is in a sad state of affairs.

this team has a lot more to worry about than filling empty seats, and a-rod's past

[Crush086]

Man, talk about having our number.

5 straight wins is just.... I can't even find words for this shit.

[hbktonyb]

Its disgusting

[Trippin4136]

Well, find solace in this.

The Boston Massacre II was 5 games in one series.

The team just looks completely limp right now.

A-Rod better have his hitting shoes on ASAP.

[Crush086]

I hope so.

This team needs a jolt. Something to get them going again.

[hbktonyb]

I hope Arod can pitch and hit.

[thebestauntie]

So is Joba still better than Beckett? :lol

[thestand]

So is Joba still better than Beckett? :lol

If you look at their line tonight... yes. :lol

Beckett: 6.0 IP, 10 H(!), 3 ER, 1BB, 5 Ks, 1 HR, bringing his ERA to 6.75
Joba: 5.2 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 2 BB, 12 K, 1 HR, bringing his ERA to 3.77

Joba walked one more, but had 4 less hits and 7 more Ks. The only difference was Joba had 3 runners on base when Bay hit his HR, while Beckett only had 2 on for Damon's. Joba was the better pitcher tonight.

[thebestauntie]

If you look at their line tonight... yes. :lol

Beckett: 6.0 IP, 10 H(!), 3 ER, 1BB, 5 Ks, 1 HR, bringing his ERA to 6.75
Joba: 5.2 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 2 BB, 12 K, 1 HR, bringing his ERA to 3.77

Joba walked one more, but had 4 less hits and 7 more Ks. The only difference was Joba had 3 runners on base when Bay hit his HR, while Beckett only had 2 on for Damon's. Joba was the better pitcher tonight.
:lol:lol You guys are great.

[thestand]

:lol:lol You guys are great.

OK, Joe Morgan. :rolleyes :lol

"But see, I watched the game with my gut, and it was clear that I felt Beckett was just better. I mean, we all know the most important statistic is the wins and losses."


(This was me mocking you. Have a good night. See you at SPAC. :lol)

[thebestauntie]

OK, Joe Morgan. :rolleyes :lol

"But see, I watched the game with my gut, and it was clear that I felt Beckett was just better. I mean, we all know the most important statistic is the wins and losses."


(This was me mocking you. Have a good night. See you at SPAC. :lol)
I know that was you mocking me. :p But I won't be at SPAC :( I've had to change my plans.

[MistreatedLewis]

If you look at their line tonight... yes. :lol

Beckett: 6.0 IP, 10 H(!), 3 ER, 1BB, 5 Ks, 1 HR, bringing his ERA to 6.75
Joba: 5.2 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 2 BB, 12 K, 1 HR, bringing his ERA to 3.77

Joba walked one more, but had 4 less hits and 7 more Ks. The only difference was Joba had 3 runners on base when Bay hit his HR, while Beckett only had 2 on for Damon's. Joba was the better pitcher tonight.


I don't agree with you on this. Joba's strikeouts are impressive, but a pitcher's job is to keep runs off the board, not to keep his WHIP low and K's high. WHIP is only impressive insofar as it leads to a lower era over time. You can say it's due to luck, and that it won't hold up over a full season, but Beckett gave up less runs last night, over approximately the same amount of innings (a little more even) and therefore was the better performer last night. He pitched better, whether it was due to luck or skills.

And as my momma always said, "It's better to be lucky than good."

[RhodyDMBFan]

Words can't describe how depressing this team is to watch. The entire Yankee organization has fallen so far over the last 5 years it's disgusting. Between bad scouting, bad decision making regarding player acquisition, clueless front office, loss of the air of invicibility, and last but not least, this clusterfuck of a stadium. Really, two home games vs Boston didn't sell out?

I fucking hate Randy Levine and Brian Cashman right now more than I hate the Red Sox.

[Ascf33]

We suck.

[thebestauntie]

We suck.
I might sig that. :thumbsup

[pathetic]

I might sig that. :thumbsup

:lol

why no spac?

[thebestauntie]

:lol

why no spac?
Money, and lack thereof. :(

[pathetic]

Money, and lack thereof. :(

you can always scratch up $ for dmb!

hitch hike and camp :lol...

[thebestauntie]

you can always scratch up $ for dmb!

hitch hike and camp :lol...
Ha ha, I just can't do it Jesse.

[hbktonyb]

If anyone wants to purchase 2 tickets to Thursday's game vs. Tampa Bay, PM me. They are 25 bucks each in the Grandstand infield, btwn home and 3rd.

[RhodyDMBFan]

If anyone wants to purchase 2 tickets to Thursday's game vs. Tampa Bay, PM me. They are 25 bucks each in the Grandstand infield, btwn home and 3rd.

Shit, I can get them on StubHub for $10. The Yankees really fucked up.

[hbktonyb]

I know! its craziness. Hasn't been like this in a long time. I am actually going to the game, just have 2 extra.

And 25 is face value without the fees!!

[RhodyDMBFan]

I know! its craziness. Hasn't been like this in a long time. I am actually going to the game, just have 2 extra.

And 25 is face value without the fees!!

Seeing those empty seats is so depressing. There's been so many horror stories about the new stadium least of all is how shitty Paul O'Neill was treated. Plus all those people that left after being told the game was rained out weren't let back in after the start time was announced.

[hbktonyb]

Seeing those empty seats is so depressing. There's been so many horror stories about the new stadium least of all is how shitty Paul O'Neill was treated. Plus all those people that left after being told the game was rained out weren't let back in after the start time was announced.

I know! On the bright side, the stadium is absolutely beautiful and I love going to games.

[FunkyTeaParty]

Brian Cashman needs to go. Anybody could do the job he does with $200 million to spend.

[hbktonyb]

I'm down on Cashman and Girardi.

Bring back Stick, and get Mattingly to coach the damn team.

[RhodyDMBFan]

I know! On the bright side, the stadium is absolutely beautiful and I love going to games.

I'm going later this month for the first time. Can't wait.

Brian Cashman needs to go. Anybody could do the job he does with $200 million to spend.

Yeah, his time is up. How $200 million doesn't get a bullpen, bench, or outfield is beyond me.

I'm down on Cashman and Girardi.

Bring back Stick, and get Mattingly to coach the damn team.

Sadly I think both those ships have sailed - due to treatment by the likes of Cashman, Levine, and Trost.

[hbktonyb]

I think Mattingly could be welcomed back if the Steinbrenners have any of the same feelings as their father. If George was still in charge, Girardi would be fired today and Willie or Donnie would be hired. Times have changed.

[FunkyTeaParty]

I am not quite ready to cut bait on Girardi. He hasn't been great, but he manages like most managers manage nowadays. It seems like the goal of the game is to use more relievers than the other team. Keep rifling through the scrubs until you get to the one that doesn't have it that night.

Also, I don't get the Mattingly love. He has never managed. Do you really want a guy that has never managed cutting his teeth with the Yankees?

[hbktonyb]

I am not quite ready to cut bait on Girardi. He hasn't been great, but he manages like most managers manage nowadays. It seems like the goal of the game is to use more relievers than the other team. Keep rifling through the scrubs until you get to the one that doesn't have it that night.

Also, I don't get the Mattingly love. He has never managed. Do you really want a guy that has never managed cutting his teeth with the Yankees?

Yes. I see Mattingly's personality like Torre. He has coached under him, he would be calm, handle the media well. We know he would be fine coaching in NY. And I think players like Tex, Jete, Arod would respect him a hell of a lot more than Joey G.

[FunkyTeaParty]

Yes. I see Mattingly's personality like Torre. He has coached under him, he would be calm, handle the media well. We know he would be fine coaching in NY. And I think players like Tex, Jete, Arod would respect him a hell of a lot more than Joey G.

You mean 20-8 Joe Torre?

[Crush086]

You mean 20-8 Joe Torre?
You mean the 20-8 Joe Torre who is managing the Dodgers in the NL West with no other competition?

I kid, and fully respect their record and what they're doing, but I think there's quite a noticeable difference in say, getting buttfucked in 2 series against the Red Sox, and getting a series against the Padres and such. I mean, almost their entire season so far has been against the NL West, so like I said, I fully respect what they're doing, but I think it's a bit glorified.

Granted our team is playing like shit anyways, but still...

[hbktonyb]

Yes, THAT Joe Torre. The one that is 12-0 at home (yes, I know he is in an easier division). A perfect example of Girardi's stupidness is his tangent about Selena's book. I hate Selena and I think she is a bitch, but what is Joe's problem questioning WHY she wrote the book...Its pretty obvious its for money. Smarten up Joe, and learn how to handle the media.

[Trippin4136]

There is absolutely NO evidence Mattingly would be a good manager.

Folks, Girardi won manager of the year with a bargain basement Florida Marlins team, but yes lets give the reigns to a guy who has never managed. And handle the media well? On basis is that statement being made? There are stories of Mattingly being just as tempermental as Girardi. Let's stop trying to compare him, or anyone else, to Torre. Torre was a one of a kind for this job. No one is going to come close to him.

And Willie Randolph in this discussion? :lol Give me a break. The guy was an absolute disaster with the Mets and he's going to guide the Yankees ship? Yea right. There is a reason why this guy doesn't have a manager's job right now.

And there's no evidence to suggest the players have lesser respect for Girardi then they would anyone else. Girardi coached under Torre too. The players know full well what he brings to the table.

[FunkyTeaParty]

Plus Mattingly's wife meeting Joba's mom would be a disaster.

[hbktonyb]

There is absolutely NO evidence Mattingly would be a good manager.

Folks, Girardi won manager of the year with a bargain basement Florida Marlins team, but yes lets give the reigns to a guy who has never managed. And handle the media well? On basis is that statement being made? There are stories of Mattingly being just as tempermental as Girardi. Let's stop trying to compare him, or anyone else, to Torre. Torre was a one of a kind for this job. No one is going to come close to him.

And Willie Randolph in this discussion? :lol Give me a break. The guy was an absolute disaster with the Mets and he's going to guide the Yankees ship? Yea right. There is a reason why this guy doesn't have a manager's job right now.

And there's no evidence to suggest the players have lesser respect for Girardi then they would anyone else. Girardi coached under Torre too. The players know full well what he brings to the table.

I didn't say Willie would be any good, all I said is if George was running the ship, I could see him firing Joe and hiring Willie or Donnie b/c of his love for ex-Yankees.

All I know is Don would most resemble Torre b/c he has worked under him for years, and we know he can handle the pressure of NY. He should be the manager, not some over-managing goof. Yes, Girardi was great for a Marlins team with an average age of 24 years old. They respected him, had a little bit of fear, etc...On this Yankee teams, the younger guys respect Posada and Jeter more than they respect Girardi.

[Trippin4136]

I didn't say Willie would be any good, all I said is if George was running the ship, I could see him firing Joe and hiring Willie or Donnie b/c of his love for ex-Yankees.

All I know is Don would most resemble Torre b/c he has worked under him for years, and we know he can handle the pressure of NY. He should be the manager, not some over-managing goof. Yes, Girardi was great for a Marlins team with an average age of 24 years old. They respected him, had a little bit of fear, etc...On this Yankee teams, the younger guys respect Posada and Jeter more than they respect Girardi.

And you base this off what?

[hbktonyb]

Plus Mattingly's wife meeting Joba's mom would be a disaster.

:lol:lol

I knew the manager that got hired after Torre would be a disaster, and Girardi has been nothing short of a huge disaster for the Yankees so far. Year 1 - not making the playoffs. Year two, starting 13-13 and going 0-5 against the Sox. That doesn't cut it in NY.

Unfortunately, Cashman loves Girardi, and they are not getting rid of either this season (unless they are something like 22-35).

[hbktonyb]

And you base this off what?

They are my friends ;)

Seriously, its just my opinion that after having a guy like Torre, a lot of these guys can't respect a guy that PLAYED with Jeter, Andy, Jorge, and Mo. I think that Girardi is probably respected by the veterans, but they are probably treated a lot different than others, and when people are treated different, younger guys notice that and have a lack of respect for the authority figure.

[Trippin4136]

They are my friends ;)

Seriously, its just my opinion that after having a guy like Torre, a lot of these guys can't respect a guy that PLAYED with Jeter, Andy, Jorge, and Mo. I think that Girardi is probably respected by the veterans, but they are probably treated a lot different than others, and when people are treated different, younger guys notice that and have a lack of respect for the authority figure.

They can't respect a guy who has won 3 World Series? :confused

As for the second part, you're damn right veterans, 15+ year veterans at that, are treated differently than rookies and young guys. This is something new to you? That's how baseball is. Young players have to EARN that kind of treatment through valuable play and experience.

You think Girardi would pull Jeter out of a game like he did to Cano late last year? No, and that shouldn't surprise you.

Sorry, but to me, you're outside psychology just doesn't equate.

[Ascf33]

http://jeanettes-celebrity-corner.com/wp-content/photos/kim_mattingly.JPG

[RhodyDMBFan]

They are my friends ;)

Seriously, its just my opinion that after having a guy like Torre, a lot of these guys can't respect a guy that PLAYED with Jeter, Andy, Jorge, and Mo. I think that Girardi is probably respected by the veterans, but they are probably treated a lot different than others, and when people are treated different, younger guys notice that and have a lack of respect for the authority figure.

But it's no secret that Torre treated "his guys" a lot different than the other players and that led to animosity in the clubhouse. I don't really fault Girardi for how the Yankees are playing. I blame the FO for putting this team together. $200 million payroll means nothing if it's not spent efficiently. The Yankees should be unbeatable with their resources available to them. The problem is they are horrible at analyzing the market and utilizing the other resources besides money available right now. That falls squarely on the shoulders of Cashman. Name one decision they've made in the past 5 years that has worked out as planned.

[hbktonyb]

They can't respect a guy who has won 3 World Series? :confused

As for the second part, you're damn right veterans, 15+ year veterans at that, are treated differently than rookies and young guys. This is something new to you? That's how baseball is. Young players have to EARN that kind of treatment through valuable play and experience.

You think Girardi would pull Jeter out of a game like he did to Cano late last year? No, and that shouldn't surprise you.

Sorry, but to me, you're outside psychology just doesn't equate.

This is true to an extent. Veterans should be treated differently in the way you describe about Cano. I'm talking about in the clubhouse...I bet Girardi is more of a friend with the veterans, not any type of manager. And that creates major problems...same goes in the business world.

This argument is stupid though, I just don't think Girardi is a good manager for this team and I think they need a guy that everyone will respect, and that guy is Mattingly.

[Crush086]

Yes, THAT Joe Torre. The one that is 12-0 at home (yes, I know he is in an easier division). A perfect example of Girardi's stupidness is his tangent about Selena's book. I hate Selena and I think she is a bitch, but what is Joe's problem questioning WHY she wrote the book...Its pretty obvious its for money. Smarten up Joe, and learn how to handle the media.
I thought it was pretty cool the way Girardi sounded off about her book. Shows A-Rod he has his back, when plenty other players give the "No comment" line.

And while I'm on it, what kind of shit is this that the MLB is going to investigate A-Rod because of that dumb bitch's allegations that he tipped pitches?

Nonsense, I say.

[hbktonyb]

But it's no secret that Torre treated "his guys" a lot different than the other players and that led to animosity in the clubhouse. I don't really fault Girardi for how the Yankees are playing. I blame the FO for putting this team together. $200 million payroll means nothing if it's not spent efficiently. The Yankees should be unbeatable with their resources available to them. The problem is they are horrible at analyzing the market and utilizing the other resources besides money available right now. That falls squarely on the shoulders of Cashman. Name one decision they've made in the past 5 years that has worked out as planned.

I actually think Cashman did an ok job this year. He spent the money the right way, getting the 3 top guys out there. He traded for Swisher - good move. That trade for Marte and Nady last year was a no-brainer. As a whole, he has really struggled though, especially with the pitchers he brought in. And he royally fucked up the bullpen.

[hbktonyb]

I thought it was pretty cool the way Girardi sounded off about her book. Shows A-Rod he has his back, when plenty other players give the "No comment" line.

And while I'm on it, what kind of shit is this that the MLB is going to investigate A-Rod because of that dumb bitch's allegations that he tipped pitches?

Nonsense, I say.

How are they going to prove anything? Are they going to pull tape? MLB are a bunch of assholes just because somebody idiot has a bunch of dumb ass sources that claim arod did this shit. Dumb

[Trippin4136]

This is true to an extent. Veterans should be treated differently in the way you describe about Cano. I'm talking about in the clubhouse...I bet Girardi is more of a friend with the veterans, not any type of manager. And that creates major problems...same goes in the business world.

This argument is stupid though, I just don't think Girardi is a good manager for this team and I think they need a guy that everyone will respect, and that guy is Mattingly.

Well that's complete conjecture. So whatever. Feel as you will.

I think Girardi will be given this season and if they don't make the post-season, he'll be canned.

[Trippin4136]

I don't see how Cashman "fucked up" the bullpen. He just wasn't proactive in getting a free-agent aside from giving Marte a 3-year deal (which I disagreed with).

He didn't do anything to make it worse, he just didn't really do anything to improve it.

[RhodyDMBFan]

I don't see how Cashman "fucked up" the bullpen. He just wasn't proactive in getting a free-agent aside from giving Marte a 3-year deal (which I disagreed with).

He didn't do anything to make it worse, he just didn't really do anything to improve it.


You just described how one fucks up a bullpen. The basis of his job is to make the team better.

[Trippin4136]

Fine, we disagree on the definition of "fucked up". To me, he just left it status quo after upgrading last season.

But tell me, aside from trading for J.J. Putz, the only big non-closer acquisition of the off-season, where would he have gone to find such valuable bullpen help?

Losing Bruney was a gutshot to the bullpen.

[FunkyTeaParty]

We could have got Beimel for a song.

[hbktonyb]

Fine, we disagree on the definition of "fucked up". To me, he just left it status quo after upgrading last season.

But tell me, aside from trading for J.J. Putz, the only big non-closer acquisition of the off-season, where would he have gone to find such valuable bullpen help?

Losing Bruney was a gutshot to the bullpen.

That is how I defined 'fucked up'...he just let it be.

(insert typical Joba sentence by me here :lol)

[crashintome202]

I don't see how Cashman "fucked up" the bullpen. He just wasn't proactive in getting a free-agent aside from giving Marte a 3-year deal (which I disagreed with).

He didn't do anything to make it worse, he just didn't really do anything to improve it.
by doing nothing, you can make the situation worse. there were bargain FA relievers that have started off very well (beimel, cruz). while i do believe the pen will improve when more of the young guys come up, adding 1 or 2 more couldnt hurt

[FunkyTeaParty]

Just found out I am going tonight.

Right field bleachers.

[RhodyDMBFan]

Just found out I am going tonight.

Right field bleachers.

Have fun. This may be the only night of the homestand that's rain free.

[hbktonyb]

I actually see a big bright thing in the sky here in the city. Strange.

[hbktonyb]

Can we ever grab a lead

[crashintome202]

Can we ever grab a lead
its andy sonnenstine too :BANG:BANG

[hbktonyb]

We look like a lifeless little league club.

[hbktonyb]

This offense is begging Alex to come back

[DavefaninNZ]

Would Arod do much? I mean the lineup will be better with him in there for sure, but do his teammates even like him anymore? Would they really feed off him? I think Arod coming back won't solve the yanks' problems.

[thestand]

Yes, his teammates like him. They see him as a character, not a bad guy. This has been talked about before, even in Torre's book. They see him as a character with an eccentric personal life, but they do like him. And not only will you have A-Rod's bat coming back, but the pitchers will be forced to pitch to Tex, now that he's not backed up by a rotating cast of Posada, Cano, Swisher, and Matsui backing him up.

[DavefaninNZ]

Noted.

[mr. testaverde]

tex! tied the game!!

[hbktonyb]

Tex's first big hit as a Yankee.

[stayorleave83]

With Garnder coming in, Arod out and Posada on the DL, not pinch hitting for Molina shows how thin the bench is right now.

[mr. testaverde]

yay bullpen

[hbktonyb]

Its truly pitiful that no matter who we bring in here, they cannot get a run in from third base w/ less than 2 outs. Great job Texeira.

Please FIRE Girardi. Not even his fault, but somebody needs to take the blame for this team's lack of heart, and unfortunately for him it has to be the manager.

And is it just me, or does Yankee stadium sound silent no matter what is going on??

[RhodyDMBFan]

Its truly pitiful that no matter who we bring in here, they cannot get a run in from third base w/ less than 2 outs. Great job Texeira.

Please FIRE Girardi. Not even his fault, but somebody needs to take the blame for this team's lack of heart, and unfortunately for him it has to be the manager.

And is it just me, or does Yankee stadium sound silent no matter what is going on??

Fire Girardi and bring who in? There's nothing that can be done when you have a bullpen that can't get outs. It's pathetic.

[crashintome202]

Its truly pitiful that no matter who we bring in here, they cannot get a run in from third base w/ less than 2 outs. Great job Texeira.

Please FIRE Girardi. Not even his fault, but somebody needs to take the blame for this team's lack of heart, and unfortunately for him it has to be the manager.

And is it just me, or does Yankee stadium sound silent no matter what is going on??
man you really like scapegoating girardi.

[Crush086]

Its truly pitiful that no matter who we bring in here, they cannot get a run in from third base w/ less than 2 outs. Great job Texeira.

Please FIRE Girardi. Not even his fault, but somebody needs to take the blame for this team's lack of heart, and unfortunately for him it has to be the manager.

And is it just me, or does Yankee stadium sound silent no matter what is going on??
That doesn't make any sense.

[Ascf33]

Go Blue Jays.

[RhodyDMBFan]

man you really like scapegoating girardi.

Well you can't fire the players. I don't think Girardi should go - at least give him this season. If they miss the playoffs again he'll have to take the hit, but there's really nothing he can do. It's not his fault the GM spent like a drunken sailor on some aspects and neglected to do anything in others.

[Bafugama]

Its truly pitiful that no matter who we bring in here, they cannot get a run in from third base w/ less than 2 outs. Great job Texeira.

Please FIRE Girardi. Not even his fault, but somebody needs to take the blame for this team's lack of heart, and unfortunately for him it has to be the manager.

And is it just me, or does Yankee stadium sound silent no matter what is going on??

People aren't showing up to the game--That could have something to do with it.

[hbktonyb]

Well you can't fire the players. I don't think Girardi should go - at least give him this season. If they miss the playoffs again he'll have to take the hit, but there's really nothing he can do. It's not his fault the GM spent like a drunken sailor on some aspects and neglected to do anything in others.

Exactly. My point is somebody has to take the blame if this team continues to underachieve. I tend to overreact, but I will give him until June 1. They would have played 50 games, a third of the way through the season. If this team continues to be .500 or below, he needs to go, and they should hire away Donny Baseball.

[darbini]

Just found out I am going tonight.

Right field bleachers.

Did you catch Pena's homerun?

[hbktonyb]

2nd game of the year, 2nd time seeing Andy, our Ace, pitch! Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet

[Ascf33]

season = over

[MistreatedLewis]

Well you can't fire the players. I don't think Girardi should go - at least give him this season. If they miss the playoffs again he'll have to take the hit, but there's really nothing he can do. It's not his fault the GM spent like a drunken sailor on some aspects and neglected to do anything in others.
QFT. Cashman is so awful it's hilarious.

[MistreatedLewis]

season = over

Oh come on, don't be a little bitch. :babe

[Ascf33]

Oh come on, don't be a little bitch. :babe

:lol

[ajgdrums7814]

QFT. Cashman is so awful it's hilarious.

This is a misconception IMO. Cashman didn't have control of this team until after 2005. Since then, they've gone in a much more desirable direction.

After the 2001 loss, Steinbrenner and his Tampa crew of guys like Oppenheimer, Emslie, etc. ran the show, more or less. This is when you had Steinbrenner signing David Wells over lunch, without even telling Cashman. Or Tony Womack being signed without Cashman's consent. Or the Yankees choosing Gary Sheffield over Vladimir Guerrero because Doc Gooden, Sheffield's uncle, worked in the Yankees front office.

When Cashman renegotiated to come back after 2005, the story was that he took the reigns fully. Since then, they've developed a competent minor league system, that was ranked in the top 5 in 2008. They've produced guys like Chamberlain, Hughes, Melancon, Jackson, etc. They REFRAINED from spending for several years. They passed on FAs like Barry Zito.

Only after they shed $80 million last year did they open their wallets. And they did so for guys who seem like smarter investments than anyone else who has been available over the past several years.

I don't think Cashman is great. But calling him awful is not fair either. He's done a good job in turning this franchise around since 2005. They've come a long way. But they still have a long way to go.

[Trippin4136]

This is a misconception IMO. Cashman didn't have control of this team until after 2005. Since then, they've gone in a much more desirable direction.

After the 2001 loss, Steinbrenner and his Tampa crew of guys like Oppenheimer, Emslie, etc. ran the show, more or less. This is when you had Steinbrenner signing David Wells over lunch, without even telling Cashman. Or Tony Womack being signed without Cashman's consent. Or the Yankees choosing Gary Sheffield over Vladimir Guerrero because Doc Gooden, Sheffield's uncle, worked in the Yankees front office.

When Cashman renegotiated to come back after 2005, the story was that he took the reigns fully. Since then, they've developed a competent minor league system, that was ranked in the top 5 in 2008. They've produced guys like Chamberlain, Hughes, Melancon, Jackson, etc. They REFRAINED from spending for several years. They passed on FAs like Barry Zito.

Only after they shed $80 million last year did they open their wallets. And they did so for guys who seem like smarter investments than anyone else who has been available over the past several years.

I don't think Cashman is great. But calling him awful is not fair either. He's done a good job in turning this franchise around since 2005. They've come a long way. But they still have a long way to go.

Bingo.

[stayorleave83]

:BANG:BANG:BANG its still early but the offense falling behind then catching up to watch the bullpen blow it is frustrating. what's worse is once again rivera cruises along for most of the inning before he implodes for a batter or two.

[hbktonyb]

Was at the game tonight...The stadium was louder in person than it sounds on tv. We got real loud during Johnny's home run. Texeira got booed very loudly. Especially after Johnny's home run, when Texeira made an out before John even got a chance to take a curtain call, fans were pissed.

The team is just pathetic right now...I really think Arod returning will provide a spark. Hopefully.

Last thing - If you've ever gone to a game, you know the yankees do a card 'match game' where there is 9 cards, and you have to pick the 2 numbers that have the same player. Well, the player ended up being Texeira, and when the fan got it right, the crowd booed big time b/c it was Texeira that got the honors tonight. It was pretty funny.

[hbktonyb]

THAT was a moment. Arod! First pitch of the season, damn

[Ascf33]

yard on the first pitch. lolz

[haybale97]

hes back

[hbktonyb]

He did exactly what we need right now, in his first at bat! Maybe THIS will turn us around?

[hbktonyb]

This Texeira thing is getting out of hand. .194??

[Ascf33]

Giambi 2.0

[Crush086]

Been out all day. good to see a-rod go deep first pitch.

With only 93 pitches, I wonder if CC goes all the way?

[Trippin4136]

CC gave them EXACTLY what they needed.

He couldn't have been any better tonight.

[DmBand801]

This Texeira thing is getting out of hand. .194??

He's started slow three of the last four years. Here are his April numbers since 2005:

year avg hr rbi

2005: .262 6 15
2006: .293 3 13
2007: .231 2 6
2008: .273 4 17 (He was hitting .250 on April 5 - He had multi-hit games for the last three games of April to boost the average up to .273)

[hbktonyb]

Well hopefully he picks it up, b/c those numbers above are a lot better than his current .190 start.

CC and Arod gave them such a huge boost today. They are going to be key this season (obviously)

[Crush086]

After seeing tonights performance I am looking forward to seeing the damage A-Rod and Teixeira can do.

And you can't really ask for much more than what CC gave tonight. Awesome game.

[MistreatedLewis]

This Texeira thing is getting out of hand. .194??

I think what yall need to do is to keep putting increased pressure on him. Boo louder, harder, and more often.

[FunkyTeaParty]

I think what yall need to do is to keep putting increased pressure on him. Boo louder, harder, and more often.

It worked for Piazza.

[hbktonyb]

I think what yall need to do is to keep putting increased pressure on him. Boo louder, harder, and more often.

:lol Worked for Arod :rolleyes

[crashintome202]

how does everyone feel about signing a FA catcher like estrada or lo duca? there has been some speculation that the yankees should sign someone...

[MistreatedLewis]

how does everyone feel about signing a FA catcher like estrada or lo duca? there has been some speculation that the yankees should sign someone...

You should sign Mike Piazza to stick it to us Mets fans.

[DmBand801]

You should sign Mike Piazza to stick it to us Mets fans.
why not? They already stole Al Leiter a few years ago.

[chr35919]

wow, you guys suck. :lol

[Lcsulla]

how does everyone feel about signing a FA catcher like estrada or lo duca? there has been some speculation that the yankees should sign someone...

Fuck that cheater LoDuca, plus he is an ass. I think we have an ample supply of both.

Regarding Texiera, relax folks. Admittedly I am not sure of your ages but when Tino statred he was utterly miserable for the first 6 weeks of 1996 - booed unmercifully att he Stadium. Miserable. After that GS in Baltimore he got into his grove. He worked out okay I would say! Relax, let Texiera settle in and he will be fine.

[hbktonyb]

Back to misery

[MistreatedLewis]

Hughes is not good.

[s0628711]

Having watched the beginning of yesterday's game, I can't even blame Hughes for that. That was far and away the most atrocious inning of defense I have ever seen in my life. From Swisher airmailing everything, to Cervelli then allowing the runners to advance on that stupid flip play on the pass ball, it was an absolute disaster. Hughes gave up two very soft hits to start the whole inning off, then the defense just came in and took a shit all over that inning.

[hbktonyb]

Do you guys think Hughes will actually be good? I'm indecisive right now, but knowing we could have had Santana for him is diving me nuts.

And how about Johnny w/ 9 homers!?

[dowling25]

That was classic today from Huff. I love that he had just been waiting for that moment to return the favor to Joba. Just Owned Joba with that especially when he crossed home plate!:lol

[thestand]

That was classic today from Huff. I love that he had just been waiting for that moment to return the favor to Joba. Just Owned Joba with that especially when he crossed home plate!:lol

I think the "owning" happened when he, you know, hit the home run. I don't think the 32 year old mocking a 23 year old is much of an "owning".

Oh, and his team lost. And is in last place. So. :lol But sure, call it an owning.

[Ascf33]

Papelfuck does teh fist pump too and no one thinks twice about it.

I mean honestly, who gives a shit.

[ProudestAnt]

Papelfuck does teh fist pump too and no one thinks twice about it.

I mean honestly, who gives a shit.
:lorraine

[Trippin4136]

What about K-Rod? He full on busts a move when he closes a game versus the Pirates.

[RhodyDMBFan]

Papelfuck does teh fist pump too and no one thinks twice about it.

I mean honestly, who gives a shit.

Papelbon dancing a jig = goofy good old' boy Sox player.

Joba fist pump = arrogant overrated asshole.

Get it right. :BANG

How about Johnny Damon!

[Ascf33]

:lorraine

:lol

[pathetic]

Papelbon dancing a jig = goofy good old' boy Sox player.

Joba fist pump = arrogant overrated asshole.

Get it right. :BANG

How about Johnny Damon!

juice

[RhodyDMBFan]

juice

Maybe in 2004.

[pathetic]

Maybe in 2004.

maybe not, but maybe now

[RhodyDMBFan]

maybe not, but maybe now

Don't you have your own thread to bash the Yankees in?

[Lcsulla]

That was classic today from Huff. I love that he had just been waiting for that moment to return the favor to Joba. Just Owned Joba with that especially when he crossed home plate!:lol

Honestly, I enjoyed that as well. Thought it was a long time coming. Papelbon deserves it as well IMO. Both of them come off arrogant doing that.

[thebestauntie]

Don't you have your own thread to bash the Yankees in?
Yeah, but it's way more fun to do it in here.

[Ascf33]

Would the Yankees still suck if we lost every single game against the Red Sox but still won the World Series?

[thebestauntie]

Would the Yankees still suck if we lost every single game against the Red Sox but still won the World Series?
Is this a serious question? :confused

[Trippin4136]

I'm going to my first game at the new place on Saturday. But get this.

I just checked Stubhub, I couldn't even sell my tickets for what I paid for them back in March.

I'm sitting in 232 Row 2, and I can buy 2 tickets two sections over for $20 BELOW face.

That is ridiculous.

[hbktonyb]

Yup...the yankees really fucked up with tickets.

[DmBand801]

What about K-Rod? He full on busts a move when he closes a game versus the Pirates.

He's been doing this for years.

He goes apeshit when he closes out a game.

[hbktonyb]

The other thing w/ tix is there is a perception out there that Yankee Stadium is completely un-affordable, and you can only go if you have an extra grand lying around.

[RhodyDMBFan]

Yeah, but it's way more fun to do it in here.

And that's why everyone thinks Red Sox fans are assholes.

[Crush086]

And that's why everyone thinks Red Sox fans are assholes.
To be fair, I talk a fair amount of shit in their thread too.

Of course, I also try to engage in civil conversation too, but I won't deny that I don't lay it on when they're getting their asses whipped.

[malarks26]

Well this game's over. I doubt we're going to get 3 runs or more off of Halladay. Down 2-0 with him on the mound, I'm fairly confident we'll be getting an L in this one. Ugh...

[hbktonyb]

Nice hit by Arod. What a surprise, Johnny is the only one hitting.

[hbktonyb]

I know it is Doc pitching tonight, so normally I would give them a pass, but this Texeira thing is getting ridiculous. He is almost under .190, another 0 for tonight. Its just annoying how bad he is.

[chr35919]

so when will girardi be fired? mid-june?

[thestand]

He won't be. Steinbrenners love him. Besides, he was missing his cleanup hitter, his second starter, a right fielder, and half the bullpen, and came out of it around .500. I'm not in love with the guy, but the Yankees have done much worse in April/May and still won the division/taken the wild card. We'll panic if we're at .500 at the all-star break. As for right now? We're fine. At least our hitter who's off the roids can still hit home runs. :lol

[hbktonyb]

I don't agree that we're fine at all. Spotty starting pitching, a terrible bullpen, Mo who doesn't look like Mo, Texeira pissing his pants b/c he is in NY, Arod not 100%, Jeter/Damon/Posada/Japsui aging by the second and getting nagging injuries, Cano not hitting in a big spot....oh, and our center fielder is Gardbrera.

And unfortunately for the fans, Girardi will stick around this season. When they don't make the playoffs...again...then he will be fired (along w/ Cashman).

[ProudestAnt]

I don't agree that we're fine at all. Spotty starting pitching, a terrible bullpen, Mo who doesn't look like Mo, Texeira pissing his pants b/c he is in NY, Arod not 100%, Jeter/Damon/Posada/Japsui aging by the second and getting nagging injuries, Cano not hitting in a big spot....oh, and our center fielder is Gardbrera.

And unfortunately for the fans, Girardi will stick around this season. When they don't make the playoffs...again...then he will be fired (along w/ Cashman).
Tell us how you really feel...

[Crush086]

He won't be. Steinbrenners love him. Besides, he was missing his cleanup hitter, his second starter, a right fielder, and half the bullpen, and came out of it around .500. I'm not in love with the guy, but the Yankees have done much worse in April/May and still won the division/taken the wild card. We'll panic if we're at .500 at the all-star break. As for right now? We're fine. At least our hitter who's off the roids can still hit home runs. :lol
Or is he??? Right? Right???

Anyways, as far as the shitty bullpen goes, it's nice to see our pitchers going deep into games again. Last year after Wang went down, it was pretty rare to see our pitchers go deep (Pettitte and Mussina were too old, Joba and his pitch count, random 5th starter getting lit up). This year though, we've seen CC notch a CG, and Burnett consistently takes it deep. Hell, he almost had a CG loss last night.

So, although the bullpen is a bit shaky now, at least we have pitchers who can go 7+ innings on a consistent basis.

[Trippin4136]

What is the beef with Melky right now? (not just here, I've seen it on other boards...)

Is the .333 average not good enough?

Who knows how he'll finish the year, but for now he's giving the Yankees more than they expected.

[RhodyDMBFan]

I don't agree that we're fine at all. Spotty starting pitching, a terrible bullpen, Mo who doesn't look like Mo, Texeira pissing his pants b/c he is in NY, Arod not 100%, Jeter/Damon/Posada/Japsui aging by the second and getting nagging injuries, Cano not hitting in a big spot....oh, and our center fielder is Gardbrera.



And of those 8 problems, 4 of them are directly the result of the GM, not the manager. Mo, Teix & Cano playing like crap is more on them, but Girardi should be able to do something about Teix & Cano.

[Ascf33]

We also started the little league team last night against the best pitcher of the last decade.

[hbktonyb]

We also started the little league team last night against the best pitcher of the last decade.

This is true.

[hbktonyb]

And of those 8 problems, 4 of them are directly the result of the GM, not the manager. Mo, Teix & Cano playing like crap is more on them, but Girardi should be able to do something about Teix & Cano.

So 4 for Cash - Fired
And 4 for Joey G - Fired :lol

[hbktonyb]

What is the beef with Melky right now? (not just here, I've seen it on other boards...)

Is the .333 average not good enough?

Who knows how he'll finish the year, but for now he's giving the Yankees more than they expected.

He is playing great right now, I hope it continues. But I highly doubt he will end up hitting well.

[Crush086]

Teixeira's average is above .200.

Look out guys.

[thestand]

What is the beef with Melky right now? (not just here, I've seen it on other boards...)

Is the .333 average not good enough?

Who knows how he'll finish the year, but for now he's giving the Yankees more than they expected.

My standpoint is of a "fool me once" one. If he continues, hell, even if he drops to .280 or so, I'll become a supporter again. But you have to remember, he was .300 or so May 1st last year. And then he got comfortable, and plummeted. If he can have any sort of consistency this year, I'll certainly become a supporter again.

[thestand]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_S0CViLms5ys/SgtvCFuIY2I/AAAAAAAAArY/_23Ma1_7Zgo/s400/Page_1.jpg

[hbktonyb]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_S0CViLms5ys/SgtvCFuIY2I/AAAAAAAAArY/_23Ma1_7Zgo/s400/Page_1.jpg

:lol

[crashintome202]

I don't agree that we're fine at all. Spotty starting pitching, a terrible bullpen, Mo who doesn't look like Mo, Texeira pissing his pants b/c he is in NY, Arod not 100%, Jeter/Damon/Posada/Japsui aging by the second and getting nagging injuries, Cano not hitting in a big spot....oh, and our center fielder is Gardbrera.

And unfortunately for the fans, Girardi will stick around this season. When they don't make the playoffs...again...then he will be fired (along w/ Cashman).
the starting pitching will definitely get better. CC pitched his best game last outing, Burnett has given us plenty of innings and taken a hit to his era by staying in later than he should be. Wang will eventually bounce back, joba is a solid starter as well as andy. hughes is a big toss up though...
the pen is a mess i agree with that. Mo is mo, he'll be fine. tex is a late starter and is picking it up lately, arod will only get healthier, posada and matsui are a concern and cano has never been a clutch hitter.
our CF production has been good as well

[hbktonyb]

Pettitte really grinded one out yesterday. We needed it.

[MistreatedLewis]

We also started the little league team last night against the best pitcher of the last decade.

That would be Johan. :)

[Ascf33]

That would be Johan. :)

very very close....

http://www.baseball-reference.com/compare.cgi?top=/players/s/santajo02.shtml

[Crush086]

It is close, but I think I might have to take Halladay.

The amount of Complete Games he pitches is pretty impressive.

[Crush086]

With our bullpen getting roughed up more often than not, it's really good to see CC eating up innings.

[Ascf33]

It is close, but I think I might have to take Halladay.

The amount of Complete Games he pitches is pretty impressive.

coupled with the fact that he's been on a perennial third place team, i do too.

[thestand]

TJ, is it you that's currently raping me in the matchup league #2? :lol

[Ascf33]

New York Needles? Indeed! :lol

[thestand]

The Sterling Shake must've been massive tonight.

[Trippin4136]

Hell of a comeback.

Going to my first game at the new Stadium tomorrow. Should be great vibes after a win like this.

[hbktonyb]

Great win yesterday. I can't believe how well Melky is playing.

[Trippin4136]

Just got back from the Stadium (my first time there).

Hell of a game to be at!

My only beef is the small playing field, but everything else about the Stadium is simply beautiful (as I expected).

And, I was sitting in the left field 2nd deck, 2nd row. A-Rod's homer came SO FREAKING CLOSE!

[Crush086]

Good stuff today.

Another Quality Start from Joba, and excellent walk off to win it from A-Rod.

[Nick@Night]

Fucking A-rod.

[hbktonyb]

Just got back from the Stadium (my first time there).

Hell of a game to be at!

My only beef is the small playing field, but everything else about the Stadium is simply beautiful (as I expected).

And, I was sitting in the left field 2nd deck, 2nd row. A-Rod's homer came SO FREAKING CLOSE!

What a great game to be at.:thumbsup

Am I the only one that think Arod is going to have a HUGE SEASON?

[stayorleave83]

I just got back from the game, first time there. The stadium is beautiful and wide open, which is great to see the field from the concessions. It took me two innings to find the radar gun reading on the scoreboard but that's not much of a complaint. Great game.

[malarks26]

What a great game to be at.:thumbsup

Am I the only one that think Arod is going to have a HUGE SEASON?

:thumbsup:thumbsup

[mr. testaverde]

going to tomorrow's - well, today's game! cant wait! first time to the stadium (thanks phills41 for the tickets!).

[jmudmbphan]

this fucking bullpen is killing me...

[hbktonyb]

Terrible at bat by Matsui. swung at ball 4...twice

[jmudmbphan]

gardner is a fucking idiot.

[hbktonyb]

Johnny!

What a great win

[Trippin4136]

gardner is a fucking idiot.

I disagree. I have no beef with a guy trying to steal a win like that given his speed.

It took a GREAT play from Mauer to get him and Mauer, to his credit, made the play. Ballsy yes, but not terrible.

Either way, another gut-it-out comeback, walkoff victory and Damon simply can't be stopped.

[jmudmbphan]

I disagree. I have no beef with a guy trying to steal a win like that given his speed.

It took a GREAT play from Mauer to get him and Mauer, to his credit, made the play. Ballsy yes, but not terrible.

Either way, another gut-it-out comeback, walkoff victory and Damon simply can't be stopped.

I'm not too sure...If Gardner held up it would have been men on 1st and 3rd, 1 out, with arguably our best contact hitter coming up. Robbie put one into leftfield anyhow, Gardner would have scored. But either way, great win today. Damon is on a fucking tear..10 hrs already? damn..

[hbktonyb]

I think we've seen more comeback wins this year in the 7th inning or later than all of last year.

[DMBfan41]

I just got back from the game, first time there. The stadium is beautiful and wide open, which is great to see the field from the concessions. It took me two innings to find the radar gun reading on the scoreboard but that's not much of a complaint. Great game.

i was at the game as well on Saturday. And I had the same complaint. There's so much stats up on the screens, but I couldn't find the speed. And they really showed very few instant replays. It would've been nice to see some more plays. And the A-Rod interview at the end of the game, why couldn't they pipe that so we could hear. They were showing it on the screen as if he was gonna talk. But, eh, great game to be at. Loved the stadium, can't wait to go again!

[Trippin4136]

Good read:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2009/05/16/2009-05-16_lupica_by_george_yanks_need_a_boss.html?page=0

You will never find Levine and Trost in the same foxhole. First of all, each would want one for himself. And with their vision of the Yankees, they would have to be luxury foxholes at that.

Brian Cashman, who runs the baseball operation, gets along fine with Trost but has no use for Levine. The feeling is fabulously mutual. Sometimes the war to win the AL East is nothing compared to the turf wars that go on behind the scenes at the new Stadium.

One baseball executive from out of town, who knows all the front-office players with the Yankees, laughed the other day when I laid out this version of family dynamics in the baseball Bronx.

"That is pretty much the way everybody gets along," he said. "Or doesn't."

[hbktonyb]

That is interesting. To me, Levine comes off as a shithead.

[RhodyDMBFan]

I have no use at all for Randy Levine. Dude showed up in late 2000 and acts like he's the reason the Yankees are a multi-billion dollar franchise.

[Crush086]

Anyone else notice Teixeira's average coming up?

Wasn't he just over .200 when the weekend began, and now sits at about .230

[mr. testaverde]

Anyone else notice Teixeira's average coming up?

Wasn't he just over .200 when the weekend began, and now sits at about .230

yep, looks like he's finally coming around.

great game to be at yesterday! the stadium is real nice

[hbktonyb]

Anyone else notice Teixeira's average coming up?

Wasn't he just over .200 when the weekend began, and now sits at about .230

Directly equates to Arod coming back, IMO :thumbsup

[ProudestAnt]

Directly equates to Arod coming back, IMO :thumbsup
Or the fact that he always has around a .200 average in April?

[hbktonyb]

Or the fact that he always has around a .200 average in April?

I think a few pages back someone posted .250 in April, and he hit .190. Pretty big drop off.

Arod comes back, and he explodes...I think he is batting over .300 in May (his lifetime avg in May is like .260).

[Crush086]

Could be a little bit of both.

[ProudestAnt]

I think a few pages back someone posted .250 in April, and he hit .190. Pretty big drop off.

Arod comes back, and he explodes...I think he is batting over .300 in May (his lifetime avg in May is like .260).
He's a career .249 in March/April

He's a career .286 in May

This year he was .200 in March/April

This year he is .267 in May

[ProudestAnt]

More fun facts about Tex you say?

He's a career .183, 3HR, 7 RBI against current Red Sox pitchers...

[rickyh24]

Wow those facts are fun.

[FunkyTeaParty]

Like a "fun size" candy bar.

[hbktonyb]

Sweet thanks for the stats. Now post these stats: Texeira's numbers since Arod has come back.

[RhodyDMBFan]

Going for the first time on Friday. Gonna try and get there right when the gates open so I can actually watch the game instead of explore. What/where should I eat?

[ProudestAnt]

Sweet thanks for the stats. Now post these stats: Texeira's numbers since Arod has come back.
My point is that he was actually hitting better than his career average without A-Rod...

[DancingDirtDog]

Damon is on a fucking tear..10 hrs already? damn..


Considering the wind tunnel where he's playing his home games....

[hbktonyb]

My point is that he was actually hitting better than his career average without A-Rod...

No he wasn't. He batted .200 in March/April. His career is .249

[Ascf33]

Considering the wind tunnel where he's playing his home games....

UglyNakedGuy?

[DancingDirtDog]

UglyNakedGuy?

That's the second time someone has confused me with someone else...

What gives? :confused

[Crush086]

That's the second time someone has confused me with someone else...

What gives? :confused
:lol Hilarious.

[hbktonyb]

How good could our offense be w/ the 2 of them hot.

Francesa posted the Tex stats.

Tex B.C. - .196 ba
Tex A.D. - .324, 9 rbi's, 8 runs scored (not including today's 3 run bomb)

[Trippin4136]

That's the second time someone has confused me with someone else...

What gives? :confused

Basically, every new poster in The Tailgate who is a Boston fan and instantly makes anti-NY comments within 20 posts is UglyNakedGuy.

We know it's you.

Try another handle.

[DavefaninNZ]

Basically, every new poster in The Tailgate who is a Boston fan and instantly makes anti-NY comments within 20 posts is UglyNakedGuy.

We know it's you.

Try another handle.

Its quite sad how obvious it is.

[hbktonyb]

What is Sterling's Texeira home run call?

[RhodyDMBFan]

What is Sterling's Texeira home run call?

I'm going to say it's horrible.

[hbktonyb]

The AL East is pretty dominant right now. The Yanks/Jays/Rays won 14 straight combined, and the Red Sox are in 2nd place. Sick

[hbktonyb]

P.S. 11 more wins and Andy is at 15...and you guys all owe me lots of money....and beer