YNK time sig

[haisletmw]

Hi all, does anyone know what time signature/mixed meter is at the beginning of YNK? This has been bugging me for some time now.

[nakedguydmb]

uh, it's in 6/8. carter's hitting a lot of off accents and such, basically like he's playing a 4 against a 3. it's like that old test that drummers would say showed if you were any good or not: if you could play in three with one hand and in four with the other. if you know what you're doing, though, that isn't really that hard.

there's a part that's three measures of 5 followed by one of 6, but that's not the intro.

[PilotC150]

He's right. MOST of the song, actually is in 6/8.

The verse parts are 3 measure of 5/8 and 1 measure of 6/8.

[Tomriddle]

What is a time sig?

[dobyblue]

Google it.

[haisletmw]

You know, I used to think that it was all in 6/8 but I'm pretty sure that it's not. There is a constant six feel but, if you listen to it and count all in six, but carter's hits are on the and of 2. Carter does have a steady beat 4 on the snare, but thats about it. I definatly feel three bars of 6 but then I'm not convinced that the rest is on 6, then it goes back into 6. Thats why I think there is some mixed meter. You can definantly tell after the intro that it goes into 6 for a few measures before the 5. Maybee its just me. Lets keep this discussion up!

[nakedguydmb]

He's right. MOST of the song, actually is in 6/8.

The verse parts are 3 measure of 5/8 and 1 measure of 6/8.
did you just not finish reading the post or something?

[nakedguydmb]

You know, I used to think that it was all in 6/8 but I'm pretty sure that it's not. There is a constant six feel but, if you listen to it and count all in six, but carter's hits are on the and of 2. Carter does have a steady beat 4 on the snare, but thats about it. I definatly feel three bars of 6 but then I'm not convinced that the rest is on 6, then it goes back into 6. Thats why I think there is some mixed meter. You can definantly tell after the intro that it goes into 6 for a few measures before the 5. Maybee its just me. Lets keep this discussion up!
if i had to chart this out for drumline it would be written in six. just because you're hearing strong accents and beats that make it feel different doesn't mean that it's actually a different time sig.

[RushianSyrinx]

nakedguy is right.
What might be confusing is the fact that he throws in some crashes on the "6" - right before the "1". This confused me the first twelve billion times I listened to the song too.

[PilotC150]

did you just not finish reading the post or something?
Yes, and I was agreeing with you/confirming what you said.

If you want a bigger explanation of the time signature, I can surely find one of my other many posts that talk about it.

[Miccius]

The verse has three bars of 5/8 then 1 of 6/8. The intro and preverse part can't be straight 6/8. The more I count it, it doesn't make sense. Counting straight 6/8 always messes up your timing and you end up having an uneven timing. Not listening to the drum part and just the guitar part you can tell it's not straight 6/8. Even if you consider it to be a polyrhythm, the counting of 6/8 doesn't add up. I'm going to be listening, but I'm not convinced.

[PilotC150]

Convinced or not, except for the verse part, the whole rest of the song is in 6/8.

If you're getting confused, it's only because you ARE listening to the drum part. The hits aren't on the 1 or 4 like you would normally expect.

I've counted the song all the way through, it work, trust me.

[nakedguydmb]

The verse has three bars of 5/8 then 1 of 6/8. The intro and preverse part can't be straight 6/8. The more I count it, it doesn't make sense. Counting straight 6/8 always messes up your timing and you end up having an uneven timing. Not listening to the drum part and just the guitar part you can tell it's not straight 6/8. Even if you consider it to be a polyrhythm, the counting of 6/8 doesn't add up. I'm going to be listening, but I'm not convinced.
you should stop trying. :lol

[Miccius]

Convinced or not, except for the verse part, the whole rest of the song is in 6/8.

If you're getting confused, it's only because you ARE listening to the drum part. The hits aren't on the 1 or 4 like you would normally expect.

I've counted the song all the way through, it work, trust me.

You seem like a reliable source, I'll take your word for it. I've been counting my self silly.. ha. Man I love the way that song is written. Carter funks it up sooo much.

[PilotC150]

You seem like a reliable source, I'll take your word for it. I've been counting my self silly.. ha. Man I love the way that song is written. Carter funks it up sooo much.
Thanks for the complement.

And yes, Carter really does funk it up, that's what makes the song so great.

[nakedguydmb]

You seem like a reliable source, I'll take your word for it. I've been counting my self silly.. ha. Man I love the way that song is written. Carter funks it up sooo much.
how long has it been since you've been to your band's website?

[Miccius]

how long has it been since you've been to your band's website?

Ha, yea it shut down a while ago. I need to change that. Thanks.

[RushianSyrinx]

The verse has three bars of 5/8 then 1 of 6/8. The intro and preverse part can't be straight 6/8. The more I count it, it doesn't make sense. Counting straight 6/8 always messes up your timing and you end up having an uneven timing. Not listening to the drum part and just the guitar part you can tell it's not straight 6/8. Even if you consider it to be a polyrhythm, the counting of 6/8 doesn't add up. I'm going to be listening, but I'm not convinced.


Trust me, we're right.

[RushianSyrinx]

So after having gone back and listened to YNK for the first time in a while, I forgot how awesomely complicated it sounds. For those of you trying to count it out (and arguing with us) do NOT listen to the drums - listen to the guitar. Carter does crazy crapola.

The verse and intro is in 6/8 (I think with a measure of 3/8 tacked on the end - kind of fuzzy right now) but either way, it's not 5/8 in the intro or verse - period.

[caine3320]

Except for certain parts of the verses ("One day, we might see..."etc. seems to be in 5/8), the whole song is a pretty easily recognizable 6/8. Carter just screws with everyone's heads.

[RushianSyrinx]

Actually, most consider that part to be a pre-chorus, but yes, you're right - there are parts there in 5/8