NFL Football 2006-2007

[41ravens]

although i agree with you, bignasty, the division race might be closer than a lot of people are expecting. on another note, talk about two of the most favorable schedules to end the season.

NY Jets
Chicago
Houston
@ Green Bay
Buffalo
@ Minnesota
@ Miami
Oakland

NE Pats
@ Green Bay
Chicago
Detroit
@ Miami
Houston
@ Jax
@ Tenn

i still see the pats pulling off the division, though, cause i give the jets at most 4 more wins. i think the pats can pull out 5, if not 6 more.

[Tiduwho]

Lmao, great headline on PTI about Randy Moss:


"Too sad to catch passes?"

:lol

[Tiduwho]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=gallo/061113


This has to be read, I'm literally falling off my chair laughing. This guy NEVER disappoints.


His 6 Steps to Pulling Off An Upset are killing me!


Headlines ...

Ravens comeback defeats Titans, racism

Browns give Kellen Winslow a happy Veterans Day weekend by beating Falcons

Selfish Terrell Owens selfishly draws attention to himself by selfishly not celebrating a touchdown

Clinton Portis injures hand, says NFL regular season is too long

Bill Belichick still without a Super Bowl title since Eric Mangini left

Bengals finding frequent losing oddly familiar

[VanHorneDog]

Julius Peppers is the best defensive player in the NFL.

That is all.

sorry, WRONG.

Jamal Williams is the best defensive player in the NFL. :D

[VanHorneDog]

My top 5

1. Colts
2. Bears
3. Ravens
4. Chargers
5. Seahawks

1. Colts
2. Broncos
3. Bears
4. Chargers
5. Ravens

Since we are all doing this, might as well chime in.

as from what i have seen of the media they believe this

1. Colts
2. Chargers
3. Bears
4. Broncos
5. Ravens

Note: ive watched PTI, Cold Piazza, NFL live, and Around The Horn and thats what i took away.

my on opinion is

1. Colts
2. Broncos
3. Ravens
4. Chargers
5. Bears

however, team 1-4 can beat any team 1-4 any given sunday. the bears would need some help, grossman just cant play against a good defense and the colts would find a way to win.

[Tiduwho]

Well, no matter how well Grossman plays the rest of the season, there will always be an excuse. The Seahawks were "right behind the Bears" in defense going into the game, but that game didn't count afterwards...because they were missing an offensive player and that's all that mattered. The Giants game doesn't count because of injuries. The Jets game won't count because though they just made Brady their bitch, they still aren't good. The Pats game won't count, just give it time. They don't have the receivers, they don't have their best defensive player, they aren't good anymore anyways...the list will go on and on if the Bears pull it off.


The Bears have been and will be stuck under the damned if they do, damned if they don't stigma all season. If they do good against bad teams, it's "who cares, those teams suck." If they do good against good teams it's "Oh, but they were injured and BESIDES, they were clearly overrated anyways and only gave the bears the game, the Bears had no part in it."

If they do bad against a good team it'll be "See, they can't beat good teams!" If they do bad against a bad team it's "Lol, see they are the most overrated ever. They can't even beat a bad team!" Even though every other team in the league is doing the same thing week in and week out but they all get mulligans. Case in point, Denver.

[Tiduwho]

Vinny's back!!!


The Pats just signed Vinny Testeverde!!

[xBigNastyx]

Well, no matter how well Grossman plays the rest of the season, there will always be an excuse. The Seahawks were "right behind the Bears" in defense going into the game, but that game didn't count afterwards...because they were missing an offensive player and that's all that mattered. The Giants game doesn't count because of injuries. The Jets game won't count because though they just made Brady their bitch, they still aren't good. The Pats game won't count, just give it time. They don't have the receivers, they don't have their best defensive player, they aren't good anymore anyways...the list will go on and on if the Bears pull it off.


The Bears have been and will be stuck under the damned if they do, damned if they don't stigma all season. If they do good against bad teams, it's "who cares, those teams suck." If they do good against good teams it's "Oh, but they were injured and BESIDES, they were clearly overrated anyways and only gave the bears the game, the Bears had no part in it."

If they do bad against a good team it'll be "See, they can't beat good teams!" If they do bad against a bad team it's "Lol, see they are the most overrated ever. They can't even beat a bad team!" Even though every other team in the league is doing the same thing week in and week out but they all get mulligans. Case in point, Denver.


Dude, SHUT. UP.

You are just a bitter Bears fan who loves to bitch about shit you made up. No one gives the Bears credit even though they are a top 5 team according to EVERYONE. Someone just said Rex Grossman isnt the MVP people said he was through the first 5 or so games, which he IS NOT. Not even close. He is a solid QB, nothing more. Quit freaking out.

[Tiduwho]

Who said anything about MVP? I was saying that it doesn't matter what the Bears do the rest of the season, because people can just keep using excuses as to why they are actually not that good a team at all, that they're just "okay". Where did you detect bitterness? Bears fans are used to it..Like I (and the rest of Chicago) are realizing, the Bears won't get any respect until they win the Super Bowl. Even making it wouldn't be much because "there are no teams in the NFC". They would be "two touchdown dogs at minimum" no matter who is playing them in the AFC.


That's the pulse of the league and the media. Just stating what's out there. I mean, this is standard stuff here. Funny that Marriotti is one of the few that aren't toeing this line for once this week. Even Wilbon is down on the Bears.

[UNC41]

sorry, WRONG.

Jamal Williams is the best defensive player in the NFL. :D

You should try chiming in with something other than blatant homer statements every once in a while.

[UNC41]

Well, no matter how well Grossman plays the rest of the season, there will always be an excuse. The Seahawks were "right behind the Bears" in defense going into the game, but that game didn't count afterwards...because they were missing an offensive player and that's all that mattered. The Giants game doesn't count because of injuries. The Jets game won't count because though they just made Brady their bitch, they still aren't good. The Pats game won't count, just give it time. They don't have the receivers, they don't have their best defensive player, they aren't good anymore anyways...the list will go on and on if the Bears pull it off.


The Bears have been and will be stuck under the damned if they do, damned if they don't stigma all season. If they do good against bad teams, it's "who cares, those teams suck." If they do good against good teams it's "Oh, but they were injured and BESIDES, they were clearly overrated anyways and only gave the bears the game, the Bears had no part in it."

If they do bad against a good team it'll be "See, they can't beat good teams!" If they do bad against a bad team it's "Lol, see they are the most overrated ever. They can't even beat a bad team!" Even though every other team in the league is doing the same thing week in and week out but they all get mulligans. Case in point, Denver.

The majority of what I've heard/read has not pulled the injury card and give Chicago full credit for Sunday's win. I get the feeling you want to be able to fall back on this thinking in case the Bears do disappoint you this year.

[JamesM]

Jason campbell starts sunday. whoo whooo win

[Tiduwho]

The majority of what I've heard/read has not pulled the injury card and give Chicago full credit for Sunday's win. I get the feeling you want to be able to fall back on this thinking in case the Bears do disappoint you this year.

Haha, you wish. But how would "falling back" on this thinking benefit me now? I don't get what you mean, I'm not the one buying into it, I'm the one going against it. How could I all of the sudden turn around and blend back into the crowd and say "Yeah, me and the media were right all along, the Bears weren't any good at all." I mean, huh?

And no, it's not the injury card so much as the "Giants actually aren't that good/didn't show up/gave the game to Chicago" card.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_whatsgoinon/

After weeks of people saying we'd know who the Bears were after they played the Giants on the road, backpedaling was the habit of the day. Apparently we still don't know who the Bears are for any of the following reasons:

• The Giants had several injuries on defense and still played well for a half, which should not have happened if the Bears were a good team.
• The Bears allowed a 100-yard rusher for the third consecutive week. (Never mind that it was Tiki Barber, who's rushed for 100 yards in six of nine games this season, and he had a 46-yard long, which is a danger in a gap-control defense.)
• One of the Bears' touchdowns was on a field goal return, and that blew the game open rather than cutting the Bears' lead to one. They can't rely on a field goal return for a touchdown. (Never mind that the defense forced a 52-yard field goal in rainy, windy Giants Stadium, which is legitimately due to the defense's talent.)

The L.A. Times' Bill Plaschke (http://www.latimes.com/sports/columnists/la-columnist-bplaschke,1,3729233.columnist?coll=la-headlines-sports-columnists) and ESPN's Woody Paige (http://www.woodypaige.com/) both said the game was more an indictment of how ill-prepared and poorly-coached the Giants were. Plaschke pointed out the injuries and that the Giants seemed to quit on the field goal play.


Said Paige: "This is a statement about Tom Coughlin, who can't coach, and he's looking confused on the sidelines. … Jay Feely never makes 50-yarders."


Bill Plaschke's current and Jay Mariotti's former colleague J.A. Adande (http://www.latimes.com/sports/columnists/la-columnist-jadande,1,2205741.columnist) said, "The Bears had a chance to make their statement as an elite team, I don't think they did that." Between the poor start by Grossman and the run defense, Adande said, the Bears still have question marks. He also criticized the Bears for "needing" a 108-yard field goal return to blow the game open, and can they rely on that every game?




It was New Yorker Tony Kornheiser who seemed to stick to the "this game proves the Bears are for real" theory on Pardon the Interruption, and not Chicago native and die-hard Bears fan Michael Wilbon.

Wilbon mentioned both the Giants' injuries and the 100-yard performance by Barber, to which Kornheiser responded: "The Bears were without their deep threat Berrian and were on the road? To me this is like New England losing at home to the Colts."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2659805


But mostly it was a bizarre Sunday evening, too, one in which the alleged two best teams in the NFC performed in a sloppy manner befitting the conditions. And in which the Chicago Bears (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=chi) and the New York Giants (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyg) both seemingly established that whoever represents the talent-laden AFC in Super Bowl XLI probably will do so as about a two-touchdown favorite.


That's a couple examples. By the way, New York talk radio is a joke I hear. Eli this, Coughlin that. Not that the Bears are a better team than them, it's just that the Giants didn't show up.





The standard out there is pretty much summed up as "The Bears are the best in the NFC, but what does that even mean or prove?"

[Tiduwho]

Marriotti, Kornheiser, and a half-assed "kinda but" from Salisbury were the only ones to say the Bears proved anything on ESPN the past two days.



But anyways, like I said, this is standard stuff by now for Chicago. :p

[VanHorneDog]

You should try chiming in with something other than blatant homer statements every once in a while.

huh? :shrug

[VanHorneDog]

oh and on current topic, grossman still is not good. :D

[UNC41]

huh? :shrug

I'm curious what you really think of football, rather than just saying Chargers, Chargers, Chargers.

[UNC41]

Marriotti, Kornheiser, and a half-assed "kinda but" from Salisbury were the only ones to say the Bears proved anything on ESPN the past two days.



But anyways, like I said, this is standard stuff by now for Chicago. :p

There's your problem. You're taking what ESPN and ESPN personalities say way to seriously. There was a time when the station was noted for good journalism, sigh ...

[Tiduwho]

oh and on current topic, grossman still is not good. :D


Only as good as his offensive line, kinda like Brady and Eli over the weekend.


Eli has played twice as many games as Grossman, how come he can't handle pressure and keep his composure? He got knocked around a few plays and after that even when he had time he was sailing the ball 10 feet over guys' heads. That's weird.

But yeah, Rex sucks when he has two guys tackling him while he throws, how can he not complete a simple pass like that? I mean, he had two seconds of time on a five step drop, come on! He should just pull that ball back so he can fumble instead.

[Tiduwho]

I'm curious what you really think of football, rather than just saying Chargers, Chargers, Chargers.


He was talking about all kinds of teams around the league a few pages ago.

[UNC41]

Only as good as his offensive line, kinda like Brady and Eli over the weekend.


Eli has played twice as many games as Grossman, how come he can't handle pressure and keep his composure? He got knocked around a few plays and after that even when he had time he was sailing the ball 10 feet over guys' heads. That's weird.

But yeah, Rex sucks when he has two guys tackling him while he throws, how can he not complete a simple pass like that? I mean, he had two seconds of time on a five step drop, come on! He should just pull that ball back so he can fumble instead.

Eli played like complete shit. Part of his problem was pressure, but he was even missing easy throws when he had plenty of time to throw. He was thoroughly outplayed by Grossman.

[VanHorneDog]

I'm curious what you really think of football, rather than just saying Chargers, Chargers, Chargers.

far enough, but really? who do i think the best Defensive player is? Champ Bailey.

but, Jamal is top 10 if not top 5 easily.

[VanHorneDog]

Eli played like complete shit. Part of his problem was pressure, but he was even missing easy throws when he had plenty of time to throw. He was thoroughly outplayed by Grossman.

Eli keeps proving that, Rivers > Eli

god i love greedy new york teams :)

(and yes i have a particula dislike of eli after he basically called san diego a crap hole, true it was at the time, but dude, the giants where not any better)

also, i have heard plenty from so called "proffessionals" that Rivers is one of the top 5 quarterbacks in the league right now, i wouldnt argue.

Eli has a lot of upside, but he still hasnt proven himself like Rivers did this last weekend. :D

[UNC41]

far enough, but really? who do i think the best Defensive player is? Champ Bailey.

but, Jamal is top 10 if not top 5 easily.

Peppers, Baily, Urlacher, Polamalu, Harris, Reed are all better than Williams, and that's just off the top of my head.

[UNC41]

Eli keeps proving that, Rivers > Eli

god i love greedy new york teams :)

(and yes i have a particula dislike of eli after he basically called san diego a crap hole, true it was at the time, but dude, the giants where not any better)

also, i have heard plenty from so called "proffessionals" that Rivers is one of the top 5 quarterbacks in the league right now, i wouldnt argue.

Eli has a lot of upside, but he still hasnt proven himself like Rivers did this last weekend. :D

Yesssssssssssssssss.

Although calling Rivers one of the top 5 in the league right now is a little premature.

[VanHorneDog]

Peppers, Baily, Urlacher, Polamalu, Harris, Reed are all better than Williams, and that's just off the top of my head.

yeah, but a lot of those guys are DBs, the comparison to nose tackle is a little off.

he is by far the best nose tackle in the game, what he can do to two offensive linemen and still make a tackle in the backfield is what makes the san diego defense so good.

peppers is better, Polomalu is too, the way Reed can change a game like that is amazing.

[VanHorneDog]

Yesssssssssssssssss.

Although calling Rivers one of the top 5 in the league right now is a little premature.

i wont argue, he hasnt really gone through enough good teams to set himself appart.

he has the number 2 passer rating behind Manning right now though(if u dont count romo who has only started 3 games) and has more yards than brady, well see what he can do against a good defense with a strong secondary this weekend.

[Tiduwho]

I'm so MAD that YouTube took down all Sports clips. GAH. I wanted to post the clip of Urlacher taking it to the house after intercepting Rivers and tiptoeing past him as he slides around on the ground for a TD. I was at that game (this preseason), it was funny stuff. :lol

[UNC41]

yeah, but a lot of those guys are DBs, the comparison to nose tackle is a little off.

he is by far the best nose tackle in the game, what he can do to two offensive linemen and still make a tackle in the backfield is what makes the san diego defense so good.

peppers is better, Polomalu is too, the way Reed can change a game like that is amazing.

Give me Tommy Harris.

[Tiduwho]

Give me Tommy Harris.

Stroud is no slouch either, too bad he's been hurt this year.

[VanHorneDog]

Give me Tommy Harris.


fine by me, that means i get Williams. :D

[dmbmuskie]

I haven't seen enough Chargers game to judge Williams, but when I have seen him I thought he wasn't as good at breaking up plays that aren't right at him as Hampton, Stroud and maybe even Wilfolk. He's basically unmoveable, but I think there are some other guys who are the same way with more athletic ability. I may be way off.

[dmbfd15]

I was wondering what the odds in vegas are on the Indy at Dallas game...I'm going to see them on Thanksgiving game so it be a great game if they could beat the Colts and be 6-4 but it's probably just wishfull thinking.

[xBigNastyx]

Eli keeps proving that, Rivers > Eli

god i love greedy new york teams :)

(and yes i have a particula dislike of eli after he basically called san diego a crap hole, true it was at the time, but dude, the giants where not any better)

also, i have heard plenty from so called "proffessionals" that Rivers is one of the top 5 quarterbacks in the league right now, i wouldnt argue.

Eli has a lot of upside, but he still hasnt proven himself like Rivers did this last weekend. :D

He went to SD because their system fit his talents more.

[xBigNastyx]

yeah, but a lot of those guys are DBs, the comparison to nose tackle is a little off.

he is by far the best nose tackle in the game, what he can do to two offensive linemen and still make a tackle in the backfield is what makes the san diego defense so good.

peppers is better, Polomalu is too, the way Reed can change a game like that is amazing.

They looked awesome against Cincy....:lol

[xBigNastyx]

I haven't seen enough Chargers game to judge Williams, but when I have seen him I thought he wasn't as good at breaking up plays that aren't right at him as Hampton, Stroud and maybe even Wilfolk. He's basically unmoveable, but I think there are some other guys who are the same way with more athletic ability. I may be way off.

Are you talking about Wilfork?

Plus I agree with you.. There is no way Williams is the best NT in the game...Harris, Hampton, Stroud, Wilfork, are all better IMO as well.

It amazes me that a SD fan would say he is by far the best, suprising!. JK.

[Ascf33]

Eli keeps proving that, Rivers > Eli

god i love greedy new york teams :)

(and yes i have a particula dislike of eli after he basically called san diego a crap hole, true it was at the time, but dude, the giants where not any better)

also, i have heard plenty from so called "proffessionals" that Rivers is one of the top 5 quarterbacks in the league right now, i wouldnt argue.

Eli has a lot of upside, but he still hasnt proven himself like Rivers did this last weekend. :D

If Eli could realize that he has one of the best Tight Ends in the league on his team, he would be better. Throwing these wobbling duck passes downfield and praying that Burress can jump and catch it is not the way to win football games against good teams.

Eli proves time and time again, that when the pressure is high... he cannot handle it. He's great in the 4th quarter, but he needs to spread the ball out more.

[41ravens]

I was wondering what the odds in vegas are on the Indy at Dallas game...I'm going to see them on Thanksgiving game so it be a great game if they could beat the Colts and be 6-4 but it's probably just wishfull thinking.

i'm assuming the colts are favored, but i'm guessing it's by no more than 3. i honestly think we have a legitimate shot. we just can't turn the ball over. and jones/barber have to have huge games. the only thing that worries me is our secondary. we're known for giving up big plays, and if anyone's known for their big plays in the passing game, it's the colts. i'm just glad that i can finally say that i'm happy with who we have at quarterback. i haven't felt this comfortable with our quarterback for about 5 years now. TO still hasn't had a break-out game. i'm hoping he chooses this week to have it. it would be pretty cool if vanderjagt kicks the game winner against his former team, but we all know how that could go *cough*redskin's game*cough*. here's to hoping we don't lay a giant turd on the field and lose by 2 touchdowns.

[dmbhoosier21]

i'm assuming the colts are favored, but i'm guessing it's by no more than 3. i honestly think we have a legitimate shot. we just can't turn the ball over. and jones/barber have to have huge games. the only thing that worries me is our secondary. we're known for giving up big plays, and if anyone's known for their big plays in the passing game, it's the colts. i'm just glad that i can finally say that i'm happy with who we have at quarterback. i haven't felt this comfortable with our quarterback for about 5 years now. TO still hasn't had a break-out game. i'm hoping he chooses this week to have it. it would be pretty cool if vanderjagt kicks the game winner against his former team, but we all know how that could go *cough*redskin's game*cough*. here's to hoping we don't lay a giant turd on the field and lose by 2 touchdowns.

Yes they do; it'll be a close game (which is the trend of the season for the Colts). And yes if Dallas turns the ball over against the Colts they are fucked. This cliche is true against any team but with the Peyton and Co. you might as well stop watching.

[41ravens]

Yes they do; it'll be a close game (which is the trend of the season for the Colts). And yes if Dallas turns the ball over against the Colts they are fucked. This cliche is true against any team but with the Peyton and Co. you might as well stop watching.

anytime you give peyton an extra shot to score, you're fucked. we just need to make them start deep in their own territory. i have a feeling this will be a high scoring game.

[dmbhoosier21]

anytime you give peyton an extra shot to score, you're fucked. we just need to make them start deep in their own territory. i have a feeling this will be a high scoring game.

Unfortunately it's always a high scoring game with Indy; with their superior offense and inept defense. Hopefully the Colt's defense get their strong safety Bob Sanders back - he's basically an extra LB.

[xBigNastyx]

If Eli could realize that he has one of the best Tight Ends in the league on his team, he would be better. Throwing these wobbling duck passes downfield and praying that Burress can jump and catch it is not the way to win football games against good teams.

Eli proves time and time again, that when the pressure is high... he cannot handle it. He's great in the 4th quarter, but he needs to spread the ball out more.

That statement sounds a bit contradicting IMO. Isn't the 4th quarter when the pressure is the highest?? He has had a few game winning 4th quarter performances this season...I don't think his problem is pressure, I think he just isn't consistent, and that he is still learning...

Some QBs have immediate success like Brady, Rivers, Ben, etc...

But some need a few years to straighten themselves out to be consistent, even his brother Peyton. Peyton was getting picked up around 20 times a year for his first 5-6 seasons, and was inconsistent.....I'm not saying he will be his brother, but give him some time, he's gonna be a good one...

[xBigNastyx]

Unfortunately it's always a high scoring game with Indy; with their superior offense and inept defense. Hopefully the Colt's defense get their strong safety Bob Sanders back - he's basically an extra LB.

Especially the 17-16 juggernaut offensive showdown they had last week against Buffalo right? :lol ;)

[xBigNastyx]

Unfortunately it's always a high scoring game with Indy; with their superior offense and inept defense. Hopefully the Colt's defense get their strong safety Bob Sanders back - he's basically an extra LB.

Didn't Sanders come back a few weeks ago?

[Trippin4136]

Rivers is also playing with 2 guys that are the best at their skill position. Having Tomlinson and Gates will certainly help a young QB.

[Ascf33]

That statement sounds a bit contradicting IMO. Isn't the 4th quarter when the pressure is the highest?? He has had a few game winning 4th quarter performances this season...I don't think his problem is pressure, I think he just isn't consistent, and that he is still learning...

Some QBs have immediate success like Brady, Rivers, Ben, etc...

But some need a few years to straighten themselves out to be consistent, even his brother Peyton. Peyton was getting picked up around 20 times a year for his first 5-6 seasons, and was inconsistent.....I'm not saying he will be his brother, but give him some time, he's gonna be a good one...

I don't know where to start so I'll just say I disagree with parts of your post and move on. I don't want to get into it. I think his problem lies in the fact that he can't throw the ball more then 20 yards in a spiral and he doesn't check off Burress to Shockey.

EDIT: Also... I just felt so weird typing that post. You are defending Eli and I am bashing him, while I am the Giants fan and like Eli and you don't. :lol

[dmbmuskie]

Are you talking about Wilfork?

Plus I agree with you.. There is no way Williams is the best NT in the game...Harris, Hampton, Stroud, Wilfork, are all better IMO as well.

It amazes me that a SD fan would say he is by far the best, suprising!. JK.

Yeah, I met Wilfork.

I see Williams as more of a Sam Adams or Ted Washington in that you aren't going to move them, and they aren't going to make much effort to move. They're all very effective at what they do, but they're basically useless outside of that role.

Harris is a much different player than the other guys you mentioned because he's moveable, but his quickness is hard to deal with for the guys in the middle of the offensive line.

[VanHorneDog]

I haven't seen enough Chargers game to judge Williams, but when I have seen him I thought he wasn't as good at breaking up plays that aren't right at him as Hampton, Stroud and maybe even Wilfolk. He's basically unmoveable, but I think there are some other guys who are the same way with more athletic ability. I may be way off.

as for athletic ability, have you ever seen a nose tackle make a play 20 yards downfield after a screen play to push a guy out of bounds to save a touchdown? the guy is probably the fastest 300 pound guy in the lague. but i understand what you guys are saying, i watch him all the time and see him eat up 2 linemen and make way for our LB to get in the holes and make plays.

He went to SD because their system fit his talents more.

i dont believe anybody goes anyplace in the draft, they dont have a choice. unless you are prince eli manning of course.

They looked awesome against Cincy....:lol

yes, they did didnt they? two things happend in that game. carson got his groove back and our LB/DE core is so injured and depleted right now that we couldnt get pressure on him. he had all day in the pocket and with C. Johnson and Hushmanwtqqwerq spreading the field out we got burned big time. i still dont think our secondary is great, but with the pressure on the quarter back we have had all year its been a lot easier for them. all you have to do is block our LBs and DEs and you can beat our defense. :lol

[Ascf33]

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[dmbhoosier21]

Especially the 17-16 juggernaut offensive showdown they had last week against Buffalo right? :lol ;)

alright "most" Indy games are high scoring

[dmbhoosier21]

Didn't Sanders come back a few weeks ago?

He played great against NE but was held out again the next week against Buffalo. I haven't heard anything about his availability for this coming Sunday against Dallas.

[Tiduwho]

Yeah, I met Wilfork.


I once met Refrigerator Perry.

[dmbmuskie]

I once met Refrigerator Perry.

I did too, I've got an autographed picture.

I don't know why I've lost my ability to spell recently.

[BotheDMBFan]

I've met the Fridge once too, at a Jackhammers game last summer.

[dmbmuskie]

I've met the Fridge once too, at a Jackhammers game last summer.

I wish I could make a living off doing appearances. I met him at the National Safety Conference a few years ago.

[xBigNastyx]

I don't know where to start so I'll just say I disagree with parts of your post and move on. I don't want to get into it. I think his problem lies in the fact that he can't throw the ball more then 20 yards in a spiral and he doesn't check off Burress to Shockey.

EDIT: Also... I just felt so weird typing that post. You are defending Eli and I am bashing him, while I am the Giants fan and like Eli and you don't. :lol


Yeah I know what you mean. :lol

I agree that Eli has struggled a lot, but I really have confidence he will turn it around...At times he looks unstoppable, but a lot of the time he looks like he has no idea what he's doing out there.

And yeah, why am I defending a NY player again???? :lol :lol

[boobookittyfuk]

something i've never understood and perhaps someone can please explain it to me. whenever you see on tv some handicapper or whatever giving his "official" picks for the week -- how come it's never more than just 3 or 4 games? and what determines those games specifically that are picked?

and this seems to go for EVERYONE that i see on tv, whether it's a professional handicapper, or a situation like frank caliendo(sp?)'s little bit on the fox pregame show.

[BotheDMBFan]

The time it takes to do the picks is usually a factor.

[VanHorneDog]

My completely worthless picks for the week.

Atlanta at Baltimore - Baltimore 21-17

Buffalo at Houston - Buffalo 23-14

Chicago at N.Y. Jets - Chicago 24 - 3

Cincinnati at New Orleans - Cincinnati 33-28

Minnesota at Miami - Miami 17-10

New England at Green Bay - New England 28-17

Oakland at Kansas City - Kansas City 38-2

Pittsburgh at Cleveland - Cleveland 13-9

St. Louis at Carolina - Carolnia 17-16

Tennessee at Philadelphia - Philadelphia 24-14

Washington at Tampa Bay - Tampa Bay 14-6

Detroit at Arizona - Arizona 3-2 (:lol but really, Arizona 17-10)

Seattle at San Francisco - Seattle 28-24

Indianapolis at Dallas - Dallas 35-31

San Diego at Denver - Denver 14-13

[VanHorneDog]

im disapointed nobody has commented on my predictions... *tear

[seekupig]

im disapointed nobody has commented on my predictions... *tear

i didn't comment because you gave Oakland 2 points vs. the Chiefs. i'm not saying the Raiders won't score, but you thinking that any team that has LJ at RB will give up a safety takes away your credibility..... :)

[VanHorneDog]

i didn't comment because you gave Oakland 2 points vs. the Chiefs. i'm not saying the Raiders won't score, but you thinking that any team that has LJ at RB will give up a safety takes away your credibility..... :)

no, i thought they would score, but i wasnt going to give them anything more than the mininum. it was kinda a joke :lol. i originally had them being shut out.

also, all it takes is a well placed punt and if trent green is starting... if they are stupid and try and throw that is. ;)

[VanHorneDog]

big game tonight, hope Phillip gives the Broncos Hell. oh and that LT guy too...

[Designer43]

Damn...Drew Brees threw for 510 yards today and the Saints still lost.

[Tiduwho]

Damn...Drew Brees threw for 510 yards today and the Saints still lost.


Yeah, that's sad.

[luke7]

This Indy vs Dallas game is not what I expected.

[DMBfan41]

Eagles and Redskins lose, Cowboys will lose at some point today.

Giants have to win tomorrow

[xBigNastyx]

Damn...Drew Brees threw for 510 yards today and the Saints still lost.


Whenever you are throwing the ball 50+ times, you aren't playing a very good game...You aren't gonna win many throwing that much.

[VanHorneDog]

My completely worthless picks for the week.

Atlanta at Baltimore - Baltimore 21-17 (baltimor 24-10)

Buffalo at Houston - Buffalo 23-14 (Buffalo 24-21)

Chicago at N.Y. Jets - Chicago 24 - 3 (Chicago 10-0)

Cincinnati at New Orleans - Cincinnati 33-28 (Cincinnati 31-16)

Minnesota at Miami - Miami 17-10 (Miami 24-20)

New England at Green Bay - New England 28-17 (New England 35-0)

Oakland at Kansas City - Kansas City 38-2 (Kansas City 17-13)

Pittsburgh at Cleveland - Cleveland 13-9 (Pittsburg 24-20)

St. Louis at Carolina - Carolnia 17-16 (Carolina 15-0)

Tennessee at Philadelphia - Philadelphia 24-14 (tennesse 31-13)

Washington at Tampa Bay - Tampa Bay 14-6 (tampa bay 20-17)

Detroit at Arizona - Arizona 3-2 (:lol but really, Arizona 17-10)

Seattle at San Francisco - Seattle 28-24

Indianapolis at Dallas - Dallas 35-31

San Diego at Denver - Denver 14-13

so far 9-2 not bad.

oh and tomorrow New York at Jacksonville - Jacksonville 24-23

[xBigNastyx]

Does anyone agree with me now that Alexander is over rated? Or does anyone at least see where I am coming from when I say that.

[dmbmuskie]

Does anyone agree with me now that Alexander is over rated? Or does anyone at least see where I am coming from when I say that.

It's his first game back.

[xBigNastyx]

It's his first game back.

Doesn't matter...

He does this all the time...

His stat lines consistently will say 9 rush attempts for 16 yards, or something....HE will average 2 yds a carry for 22 carries then have one long run that makes his stats pretty...And Mike Holmgren pads his stats with the TDs.


I think he if one of the top backs, but top 3 back in the NFL, and on the same level as LJ and LT? I DON'T THINK SO.


Just my opinion.


And boy do I love seeing the Niners beat the seattle ugly uniforms.

[VanHorneDog]

so far 9-2 not bad.

oh and tomorrow New York at Jacksonville - Jacksonville 24-23

11-3 and hopefully 11-4 tonight

oh and

Detroit at Arizona - Arizona 3-2 (:lol but really, Arizona 17-10)

i got one perfect!!! :thumbsup :multi

[41ravens]

Eagles and Redskins lose, Cowboys will lose at some point today.

Giants have to win tomorrow

uh-oh....

how bout them cowboys, baby! huge win. big boost. looking at the remaining schedule, i can honestly say i only see one game that really worries me, and that's at the giants. but this game is a huge confidence boost. with mcnabb now done for the season, i'm counting the eagles out of the race. giants better get their shit together, cause we're coming.

[DMBfan41]

ha, whoops, bad call on my part.

Doesn't change that the Giants have to win tomorrow, ha

[41ravens]

serious question, not just fanboy bullshit...

how good is the cowboy's chance of getting second seed in the nfc? nobody else looks like they want to step up except maybe carolina, but we beat them if it should come down to a tie. i think we have two games left against teams with winning records, and that's against the depleted giants and a saints team that isn't looking so great anymore. would 11-5 be enough to take second in the nfc?

[trippinchad]

McNabb out for remainder of season:bounce

[UNC41]

Miami wins their third game in a row. It was ugly today, but a win nonetheless. Jason Taylor is playing out of his mind right now. There can't be more than a couple defensive players in the NFL playing at a higher level.

I was only able to catch the fourth quarter of the Colts/Cowboys game, but Romo looked damn impressive.

[jimibadfish]

Whenever you are throwing the ball 50+ times, you aren't playing a very good game...You aren't gonna win many throwing that much.

Especially when you throw it to the other team in the end zone...twice.:BANG

These are the saints I have grown to love.

[UNC41]

McNabb out for remainder of season:bounce

That's fucking pathetic.

[41ravens]

That's fucking pathetic.

that he's out, or that the guy's happy about it?

cause i'm happy about it, too. though, i do feel bad for the way it happened and hope he gets better.

[UNC41]

that he's out, or that the guy's happy about it?

cause i'm happy about it, too. though, i do feel bad for the way it happened and hope he gets better.

Cheering that someone tore their ACL. It's weak and classless. The Eagles weren't going anywhere with or without McNabb.

[VanHorneDog]

serious question, not just fanboy bullshit...

how good is the cowboy's chance of getting second seed in the nfc? nobody else looks like they want to step up except maybe carolina, but we beat them if it should come down to a tie. i think we have two games left against teams with winning records, and that's against the depleted giants and a saints team that isn't looking so great anymore. would 11-5 be enough to take second in the nfc?

if the giants take a loss tomorrow yes i think the cowboys can, will they? i doubt it, too inconsistent. however, romo has braught some much needed consistency and TO seems to like him. so i cant see why they cant. defense isnt bad either, did a good job against manning today.

but, i think it comes down to Eli, if he can live up to his hype.

[VanHorneDog]

Cheering that someone tore their ACL. It's weak and classless. The Eagles weren't going anywhere with or without McNabb.

ouch, thats terrible. if he comes back to the NFL i will be shocked. :shrug

[jimibadfish]

McNabb out for remainder of season:bounce

:thumbsdow :shrug

[xBigNastyx]

ouch, thats terrible. if he comes back to the NFL i will be shocked. :shrug

He's a tough guy, he'll be back.

[xBigNastyx]

that he's out, or that the guy's happy about it?

cause i'm happy about it, too. though, i do feel bad for the way it happened and hope he gets better.

Why am I not suprised to see a comment like this come from a Dallas fan?

Typical.

[41ravens]

Why am I not suprised to see a comment like this come from a Dallas fan?

Typical.

did you see what i said after it? get off your fucking high horse, dick. i'm not happy how it happened, but i'm not gonna pretend it doesn't help my team's chances. don't pretend like you wouldn't have been happy had manning been injured this year, cause then maybe he wouldn't have handed your precious pats their asses.

[Designer43]

Miami wins their third game in a row. It was ugly today, but a win nonetheless. Jason Taylor is playing out of his mind right now. There can't be more than a couple defensive players in the NFL playing at a higher level.

I'm VERY happy about the way Miami has been playing. :)

[xBigNastyx]

did you see what i said after it? get off your fucking high horse, dick. i'm not happy how it happened, but i'm not gonna pretend it doesn't help my team's chances. don't pretend like you wouldn't have been happy had manning been injured this year, cause then maybe he wouldn't have handed your precious pats their asses.


Keep proving my point that Dallas fans lack class.


Your poorly written insult here proves it.


And insulting my team huh? Since the Patriots had ANYTHING to do with what anyone was talking about right? And the Patriots are 7-3, which is better than the 'boys right?

I wouldn't say I'm happy if Manning was out for the year, don't make stupid ass asumptions if you have no idea what you are talking about. At least educate yourself before you say something so stupid.


If Manning got hurt, I would never say "I'm happy about it." Like I said, only people without class can think that way.

[trippinchad]

Cheering that someone tore their ACL. It's weak and classless. The Eagles weren't going anywhere with or without McNabb.
I didn't mean it that way. I feel sorry for him and it's not like I really wanted it to happen, but it just helps my team(well, not really, but kindof)

[VanHorneDog]

hmmm, more scoring that i thought. oh well, hopefully the boys can come back. if not no biggie we have Oakland next week. ;)

[41ravens]

Keep proving my point that Dallas fans lack class.

Your poorly written insult here proves it.


And insulting my team huh? Since the Patriots had ANYTHING to do with what anyone was talking about right? And the Patriots are 7-3, which is better than the 'boys right?

I wouldn't say I'm happy if Manning was out for the year, don't make stupid ass asumptions if you have no idea what you are talking about. At least educate yourself before you say something so stupid.


If Manning got hurt, I would never say "I'm happy about it." Like I said, only people without class can think that way.

who's the one who started off making assumptions? don't assume that you know anything about me, you fuck. i said i was happy he was out, not that he was injured. there's a difference. if you can't discern between the two, that's not my problem. and nice pm, by the way. the only one who ever tries to start shit in here is you. so to sum everything up, go fuck yourself. if you don't like what i have to say, don't acknowledge it.

[VanHorneDog]

read this nice and slow

L


T


IS


THE


BEST


PLAYER


IN


FOOTBALL

:monkey

go chargers, what a win.

[xBigNastyx]

who's the one who started off making assumptions? don't assume that you know anything about me, you fuck. i said i was happy he was out, not that he was injured. there's a difference. if you can't discern between the two, that's not my problem. and nice pm, by the way. the only one who ever tries to start shit in here is you. so to sum everything up, go fuck yourself. if you don't like what i have to say, don't acknowledge it.

Still proving my point. Nice.



Heed your own advice you stupid mother FUCK.

What a worthless human being you show yourself to be.

[Tiduwho]

read this nice and slow

L


T


IS


THE


BEST


PLAYER


IN


FOOTBALL

:monkey

go chargers, what a win.

:thumbsup:thumbsup


LT > Tiki

And it's not even close. Despite what some Giants homers may think. That play where he broke about five tackles by spinning all the way down to the 5 yard line near the end of the game summed it up. The man is amazing. His skill and craft are unmatched.

[UNC41]

The Chargers are mucho talented, but need to mature and grow out of idiotic stunts like the two near the end of the game if they are going to contend.

[crashintonickdm]

Why am I not suprised to see a comment like this come from a Dallas fan?

Typical.

thats something an eagle fan would say about a opponent... remember michael irivn in 99? that was awful. so fuck you. eagle fans are the ones with no class. complete ignorant idiots.

go cowboys!!!

[VanHorneDog]

The Chargers are mucho talented, but need to mature and grow out of idiotic stunts like the two near the end of the game if they are going to contend.

1 was stupid, the other was a bad call i think. (i thought what maden said is was florence laid on him to long? i didnt see anything like that)

also, we are maturing offensivly and have been mature defensivly for a couple of seasons now up front, but finally are secondary is coming around. Cromartie made some good plays tonight, looks like a good pick now.

i do like what marty had to say about our defense though after the game (something like this): we where litteraly looking for anybody who we thought could play those positions (LB and OLB) who have never had any practice at them. We ran out of defensive players.

that goes to show you, that they are giving up points, but we are still good enough to hold them enough to let our offense win. :thumbsup

great win in Denver. im actually excited about my chargers now. we may win a playoff game!!! sweet. :D

[UNC41]

1 was stupid, the other was a bad call i think. (i thought what maden said is was florence laid on him to long? i didnt see anything like that)

Madden was wrong. He tossed the ball away from the referees after the player, I forget who, got up.

[VanHorneDog]

thats something an eagle fan would say about a opponent... remember michael irivn in 99? that was awful. so fuck you. eagle fans are the ones with no class. complete ignorant idiots.

go cowboys!!!

i dunno, but i will say that Phillie (the baseball team) fans suck.

[VanHorneDog]

Madden was wrong. He tossed the ball away from the referees after the player, I forget who, got up.

ok, then yeah two really stupid penalties.

the first one i can kinda understand, the center didnt need to go attacking igors knees on a obvious spike attempt. i mean thats how he makes a living. but still, very stupid very stupid. marty was pissed and said it had ben taken care of, i wouldnt be suprised to see a suspension (team or NFL)

[xBigNastyx]

thats something an eagle fan would say about a opponent... remember michael irivn in 99? that was awful. so fuck you. eagle fans are the ones with no class. complete ignorant idiots.

go cowboys!!!

But a Eagle fan DIDN'T say it, a Cowboys fan did.

Whatever though, I am done conversing with you Dallas fans, some good advice I have been told before "don't argue with an idiot."

Not talking about you, but I'm gonna go ahead and listen to that advice.


Anyways, I can't believe Denver lost to SD.

[UNC41]

ok, then yeah two really stupid penalties.

the first one i can kinda understand, the center didnt need to go attacking igors knees on a obvious spike attempt. i mean thats how he makes a living. but still, very stupid very stupid. marty was pissed and said it had ben taken care of, i wouldnt be suprised to see a suspension (team or NFL)

No way to justify Igor's penalty. Sure, Nalen gave him a cheap shot, but you've got a HUGE game on the line. That 15 yards could have been huge.

[crashintonickdm]

But a Eagle fan DIDN'T say it, a Cowboys fan did.

Whatever though, I am done conversing with you Dallas fans, some good advice I have been told before "don't argue with an idiot."

Not talking about you, but I'm gonna go ahead and listen to that advice.


Anyways, I can't believe Denver lost to SD.

i just take alot of offense when people say cowboy fans are iidiots. everyone knows philly fans are the most obnoxious, fools i've ever met. they probably still think they are going to win the super bowl this year.

[VanHorneDog]

But a Eagle fan DIDN'T say it, a Cowboys fan did.

Whatever though, I am done conversing with you Dallas fans, some good advice I have been told before "don't argue with an idiot."

Not talking about you, but I'm gonna go ahead and listen to that advice.


Anyways, I can't believe Denver lost to SD.

why? they are the better team, although defensively the Chargers are playing water boys, but they are better. i mean 35 points on denvers deffense??? thats unheardof this year. the SD offense is the best in the league hands down.

No way to justify Igor's penalty. Sure, Nalen gave him a cheap shot, but you've got a HUGE game on the line. That 15 yards could have been huge.

no doubt, stupid and uncalled for. on the next play you fuck him up legaly, not like that. Igor is too important to our defense, and with all the injuries. it was just careless.

[xBigNastyx]

why? they are the better team, although defensively the Chargers are playing water boys, but they are better. i mean 35 points on denvers deffense??? thats unheardof this year. the SD offense is the best in the league hands down.



no doubt, stupid and uncalled for. on the next play you fuck him up legaly, not like that. Igor is too important to our defense, and with all the injuries. it was just careless.


:lol Not quite...


Man you really sound like a bias SD fan and the Chargers can do no wrong in your eyes.

And don't give me that about how your defense is struggling now cause people are hurt...You guys have given up an average of 28 points and no less than 19 points in the last 6 contests...

I'm pretty sure your defense has not been depleted for that long...

You held Oakland, Tennessee, and Baltimore's weak offense to low scores at the beginning of the year, but that's it. No good teams.

The only good team you guys have beaten is Denver. And you gave up 27 points to their weak offense..

You beat Pittsburgh when they were really really struggling..

I thin SD is a top 5 team, but you make them sound like they are on the highway to the Superbowl right now.

If their offense is the most dangerous in the NFL than I am Mary Poppins and I'm about to play a boggle tournament with Jack Bauer.

[BotheDMBFan]

Bears win in a boring, low scoring, low emotion game.

I love it.

If they win next week, I will feel REALLY good about them going into the playoffs, and will like their chances more than any other team in the NFC, possibly the NFL.

[BotheDMBFan]

Also, I'll do my Top 5 now, since the Giants wouldn't get in it anyways.

1. Colts
2. Bears
3. Ravens
4. Chargers
5. Patriots

[twosteppinpun]

I'm just gonna sneak in and say...go 49ers

[41ravens]

Still proving my point. Nice.



Heed your own advice you stupid mother FUCK.

What a worthless human being you show yourself to be.

you're such a stupid shit. you come up with the stupidest fucking shit to say to people. i'm done with you. you're most likely some frat boy fuck who calls his friends "bros" or "homies" and says shit like "mos def". you're not worth my fucking time anymore. all you do is try to stir shit up in here. anytime someone says something about their team, you come up with the dumbest fucking shit to say. and then when someone says the same about one of your teams, you get all defensive and ask why people are getting on your ass. i'm worthless? all you have to view me by is a message board, dipshit. i can play that game, too. show me one time where you haven't shown yourself to be a worthless fuck around here. i guarantee i'm not the only one who feels this way. christ, you already changed your name around here once. my guess is that you pissed too many people off with your stupid shit, so you tried to sneak in under a new name. too bad you're still the same stupid fuck as you were before. grow up and learn that other people have different opions than you and that not everyone likes the teams from mass. then maybe we can have an intelligent conversation.

[Trippin4136]

^^^

:lol ::gets the coffee ready, puts up feet waiting for his response to this::

[dmbmuskie]

I knew I smelled an alter ego in this thread.

[RJ2kWJ]

you're such a stupid shit. you come up with the stupidest fucking shit to say to people. i'm done with you. you're most likely some frat boy fuck who calls his friends "bros" or "homies" and says shit like "mos def". you're not worth my fucking time anymore. all you do is try to stir shit up in here. anytime someone says something about their team, you come up with the dumbest fucking shit to say. and then when someone says the same about one of your teams, you get all defensive and ask why people are getting on your ass. i'm worthless? all you have to view me by is a message board, dipshit. i can play that game, too. show me one time where you haven't shown yourself to be a worthless fuck around here. i guarantee i'm not the only one who feels this way. christ, you already changed your name around here once. my guess is that you pissed too many people off with your stupid shit, so you tried to sneak in under a new name. too bad you're still the same stupid fuck as you were before. grow up and learn that other people have different opions than you and that not everyone likes the teams from mass. then maybe we can have an intelligent conversation.


:lol :lol :lol

"And that ladies and gentlemen, is what really grinds my gears."

[41ravens]

sorry fellas. didn't mean to drag it out in here. back to football.

[Trippin4136]

sorry fellas. didn't mean to drag it out in here. back to football.

no no, don't worry. this has yet to get REAL entertaining.

[thebigv]

Jason-

How do you feel about the Browns-Steelers playing a game that actually resembled a rivalry game?

[41ravens]

i would've shit myself had edwards made that catch, and i didn't even care about the game.

[dmbmuskie]

Jason-

How do you feel about the Browns-Steelers playing a game that actually resembled a rivalry game?

I thought it was a typical Steelers game from this year. Ike Taylor got burnt. The special teams sucked. Wide Recievers cannot catch the ball. The O-line played like shit.

I actually called Cribbs return, and I thought it was over at that point.

It was nice to see that it's actually a rivalry though. Edwards was running his mouth after the game, and apparently Porter and Holmes jumped all over your 60th anniversary logo at midfield after the game.

I'm definitely looking forward to the prime time game here in a few weeks.

[thebigv]

I thought it was a typical Steelers game from this year. Ike Taylor got burnt. The special teams sucked. Wide Recievers cannot catch the ball. The O-line played like shit.

I actually called Cribbs return, and I thought it was over at that point.

It was nice to see that it's actually a rivalry though. Edwards was running his mouth after the game, and apparently Porter and Holmes jumped all over your 60th anniversary logo at midfield after the game.

I'm definitely looking forward to the prime time game here in a few weeks.

Can you explain to me what is going on with Roethlisberger? I've been following him since Findlay High School and I don't get why he suddenly has the mental capacity of Tim Couch. Bad throw, bad throw, bad throw, best throw I've seen from him. bad throw, bad throw. That's his MO.

[dmbmuskie]

Can you explain to me what is going on with Roethlisberger? I've been following him since Findlay High School and I don't get why he suddenly has the mental capacity of Tim Couch. Bad throw, bad throw, bad throw, best throw I've seen from him. bad throw, bad throw. That's his MO.

I think it's a combination of he's had a rough year, his offensive line throws more "look out" blocks than I ever thought an NFL team could, Holmes runs the wrong route all the time, Wilson and Washington cannot catch the ball consistently and do not improv the way El and Burress could, the Steelers have the worst average starting postion in the league, and I think he's developed an "I'm Ben" complex on the football field where he thinks he cannot be stopped.

[thebigv]

Sounds strikingly like Favre.

[melissanns]

i would've shit myself had edwards made that catch, and i didn't even care about the game.
i almost did! the bar went NUTS! my heart almost jumped out of my chest. it was almost as exciting as the play off game against the colts last year.

[dmbmuskie]

Sounds strikingly like Favre.

Yeah, he really reminds me a lot of Favre at this point. I'm not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing.

[xBigNastyx]

you're such a stupid shit. you come up with the stupidest fucking shit to say to people. i'm done with you. you're most likely some frat boy fuck who calls his friends "bros" or "homies" and says shit like "mos def". you're not worth my fucking time anymore. all you do is try to stir shit up in here. anytime someone says something about their team, you come up with the dumbest fucking shit to say. and then when someone says the same about one of your teams, you get all defensive and ask why people are getting on your ass. i'm worthless? all you have to view me by is a message board, dipshit. i can play that game, too. show me one time where you haven't shown yourself to be a worthless fuck around here. i guarantee i'm not the only one who feels this way. christ, you already changed your name around here once. my guess is that you pissed too many people off with your stupid shit, so you tried to sneak in under a new name. too bad you're still the same stupid fuck as you were before. grow up and learn that other people have different opions than you and that not everyone likes the teams from mass. then maybe we can have an intelligent conversation.


:lol :lol :lol

And the bold part made me laugh too. Maybe you should try that. All you do is cuss up a storm and make yourself sound like an idiot. I'm not gonna argue with an idiot. It's a lose lose situation.

Not once did I say or hint that I expected everyone to like my teams. And not once did I even mention them to you in that light. Sure everyone has different opinions you moron, but when someone's opinion is that "I'm glad someone got injured" I am gonna point out that it is a classless thing to say.

Pretty much what I would expect from a Cowboys fan.

[Tiduwho]

you're such a stupid shit. you come up with the stupidest fucking shit to say to people. i'm done with you. you're most likely some frat boy fuck who calls his friends "bros" or "homies" and says shit like "mos def". you're not worth my fucking time anymore. all you do is try to stir shit up in here. anytime someone says something about their team, you come up with the dumbest fucking shit to say. and then when someone says the same about one of your teams, you get all defensive and ask why people are getting on your ass. i'm worthless? all you have to view me by is a message board, dipshit. i can play that game, too. show me one time where you haven't shown yourself to be a worthless fuck around here. i guarantee i'm not the only one who feels this way. christ, you already changed your name around here once. my guess is that you pissed too many people off with your stupid shit, so you tried to sneak in under a new name. too bad you're still the same stupid fuck as you were before. grow up and learn that other people have different opions than you and that not everyone likes the teams from mass. then maybe we can have an intelligent conversation.

:lol

Great stuff going on here.

[Tiduwho]

And don't give me that about how your defense is struggling now cause people are hurt...You guys have given up an average of 28 points and no less than 19 points in the last 6 contests...

I'm pretty sure your defense has not been depleted for that long...

You held Oakland, Tennessee, and Baltimore's weak offense to low scores at the beginning of the year, but that's it. No good teams.

The only good team you guys have beaten is Denver. And you gave up 27 points to their weak offense..

You beat Pittsburgh when they were really really struggling..

I thin SD is a top 5 team, but you make them sound like they are on the highway to the Superbowl right now.


Definitely agreed, especially about the defense. We'll see how they play once Merroids gets back though.


LT is a Man-God, but I'll take Harrison and Wayne anyday over their receivers. Indy will be better once they get Stokley back.

[xBigNastyx]

Definitely agreed, especially about the defense. We'll see how they play once Merroids gets back though.


LT is a Man-God, but I'll take Harrison and Wayne anyday over their receivers. Indy will be better once they get Stokley back.

Yeah LT is on a level of his own.

But Addai is gonna be a GOOD one for Indy as well.

[trippinchad]

you're such a stupid shit. you come up with the stupidest fucking shit to say to people. i'm done with you. you're most likely some frat boy fuck who calls his friends "bros" or "homies" and says shit like "mos def". you're not worth my fucking time anymore. all you do is try to stir shit up in here. anytime someone says something about their team, you come up with the dumbest fucking shit to say. and then when someone says the same about one of your teams, you get all defensive and ask why people are getting on your ass. i'm worthless? all you have to view me by is a message board, dipshit. i can play that game, too. show me one time where you haven't shown yourself to be a worthless fuck around here. i guarantee i'm not the only one who feels this way. christ, you already changed your name around here once. my guess is that you pissed too many people off with your stupid shit, so you tried to sneak in under a new name. too bad you're still the same stupid fuck as you were before. grow up and learn that other people have different opions than you and that not everyone likes the teams from mass. then maybe we can have an intelligent conversation.
:lol

[dmbmuskie]

I think someone is a liar if they say they've never been happy when someone from another team is injured. Most people won't come out and say it, but we all do it.

[UNC41]

I can honestly say that a season-ending injury to an opposing team's player has never made me happy. Relieved, yes, but not happy.

[dmbmuskie]

I can honestly say that a season-ending injury to an opposing team's player has never made me happy. Relieved, yes, but not happy.

Happy might not be the word I'm looking for. It's really an odd feeling, because you know it's wrong to feel the way you do.

[xBigNastyx]

I can honestly say that a season-ending injury to an opposing team's player has never made me happy. Relieved, yes, but not happy.


Exactly..


And man, Bryan my team scored 153 this week. I haven't scored less than 130 in the past 4 weeks for fantasy lol.

[41ravens]

:lol :lol :lol

And the bold part made me laugh too. Maybe you should try that. All you do is cuss up a storm and make yourself sound like an idiot. I'm not gonna argue with an idiot. It's a lose lose situation.

Not once did I say or hint that I expected everyone to like my teams. And not once did I even mention them to you in that light. Sure everyone has different opinions you moron, but when someone's opinion is that "I'm glad someone got injured" I am gonna point out that it is a classless thing to say.

Pretty much what I would expect from a Cowboys fan.

i don't need to swear to make you look like an idiot, it's just more fun that way. and you still don't seem to get it. i'm happy that he's out, but not the reason for it. i guess if you look at them as one in the same, that's understandable, but that's not my line of thinking. and i know we've never had an arguement about your teams, i was just speaking about you in general. and don't try and pretend that you're not hypocritical. you know damn well that if you give someone crap, you expect them to take it, but if someone gives you crap about your team, you get defensive. you do it every time someone mentions the pats in here.

[Tiduwho]

Exactly..


And man, Bryan my team scored 153 this week. I haven't scored less than 130 in the past 4 weeks for fantasy lol.

How many points are yards, td's etc worth in your league? That'd be crazy pointage in my league, I'm in first by a good margin and I've only scored over 100 three times, 12 man league.

Just lost to the third place guy this week though by 3 points. Not even LT could make up for Lee Evans + Larry Johnson + Drew Brees.

[41ravens]

so aaron rodgers played for 32 minutes yesterday and managed to break his foot. done for the season. if favre's not healthy, do they even have a third string quarterback on that team? not looking good for the pack right now.

in other injury news, they said it looks like donovan's tear is minor, so recovery should only take about 8 months.

[VanHorneDog]

so yeah, chargers woot. :lol

[Tiduwho]

Do the Packers still have Craig Nall? He was pretty good whenever he played.

[xBigNastyx]

i don't need to swear to make you look like an idiot, it's just more fun that way. and you still don't seem to get it. i'm happy that he's out, but not the reason for it. i guess if you look at them as one in the same, that's understandable, but that's not my line of thinking. and i know we've never had an arguement about your teams, i was just speaking about you in general. and don't try and pretend that you're not hypocritical. you know damn well that if you give someone crap, you expect them to take it, but if someone gives you crap about your team, you get defensive. you do it every time someone mentions the pats in here.


That's all you had to say man.

And don't talk like you know me, cause like you said you only know me through a message board, so don't pretend like you know the way I am.


I may say something every once in a while that may seem hypocritical to you, but there isn't one person in this thread who hasn't seemed hypocritical at all.

[xBigNastyx]

How many points are yards, td's etc worth in your league? That'd be crazy pointage in my league, I'm in first by a good margin and I've only scored over 100 three times, 12 man league.

Just lost to the third place guy this week though by 3 points. Not even LT could make up for Lee Evans + Larry Johnson + Drew Brees.

Pass yds - 20 yds = 1 point
Reception yds - 10 yds = 1 point
rushing yds - 10 yds = 1 point
tds = 6 points
int/fumble = -2 points
etc

Here's my team

QB Palmer
WR C. Johnson
WR Boldin
WR Galloway
RB S. Jackson
RB W. Parker
TE B. Watson
W/R F. Gore
K Vinatieri
DEF Baltimore
M. Leinart
B. Edwards
T. Gonzalez
W. Lundy
J. Addai
T. Bell

[Tiduwho]

Pass yds - 20 yds = 1 point
Reception yds - 10 yds = 1 point
rushing yds - 10 yds = 1 point
tds = 6 points
int/fumble = -2 points
etc

Here's my team

QB Palmer
WR C. Johnson
WR Boldin
WR Galloway
RB S. Jackson
RB W. Parker
TE B. Watson
W/R F. Gore
K Vinatieri
DEF Baltimore
M. Leinart
B. Edwards
T. Gonzalez
W. Lundy
J. Addai
T. Bell

Definitely solid team, with Palmer improving and getting back to his game last year.


I play 15/pt for rushing and receiving, 33/pt for passing. 5 pts for TDs.

I was pushing for 10/25 per point, but others wanted to keep it 20/50. So we had a compromise.

[Trippin4136]

so before the Bengals game in Week 10, Chad Johnson demanded the ball. Well, 17 catches, 450 yards and 5 touchdowns later 8 quarters later, you all think he's a little happier?

And I didn't see any mention of Drew Brees 510 yards while scoring only 16 points in a 15 point loss to Johnson and his team a week after they scored 41 and lost.

The Bengals have displayed ridiculous offensive fireworks while allowing the same on the other side of the ball.

[VanHorneDog]

so before the Bengals game in Week 10, Chad Johnson demanded the ball. Well, 17 catches, 450 yards and 5 touchdowns later 8 quarters later, you all think he's a little happier?

And I didn't see any mention of Drew Brees 510 yards while scoring only 16 points in a 15 point loss to Johnson and his team a week after they scored 41 and lost.

The Bengals have displayed ridiculous offensive fireworks while allowing the same on the other side of the ball.

so have the chargers, but they have won. a little bit of a difference there. one is clearly a better team.

also, our deffense is better. just under suspension for cheating or injured. in 3 weeks our defense will be back to kill some Bills

[xBigNastyx]

Did anyone else see Plax push over the camera man after they didn't convert 3rd down right before they kicked the FG?

Completely unnecessary...He easily could have avoided running into him.


And does anyone else hate Tony K and these idiots cause all they do is say how bad players are and that's when they actualy DO talk about football.

These guys make me sick.

[41ravens]

That's all you had to say man.

And don't talk like you know me, cause like you said you only know me through a message board, so don't pretend like you know the way I am.


I may say something every once in a while that may seem hypocritical to you, but there isn't one person in this thread who hasn't seemed hypocritical at all.

well, i did. and that's what started this whole deal. and i was only talking like i knew you cause you did the same, calling me "classless" simply based on the fact that i'm a cowboy's fan. but it's over. water under the bridge, man.

and i hate the mnf crew. kornheiser's an idiot.

[thehoss]

im glad i missed the last page on this thread, but fuck, the giants look awful

[baloneybandit21]

yeah, it makes me very happy as my cowboys are on their way up with a HUGE win over the colts yesterday, which i predicted

[UNC41]

Gerrard should be Jacksonville's starting QB at the beginning of next season.

[twosteppinpun]

Alright, coach of the year?

Sean Payton
Lovie Smith
Mike Nolan

[UNC41]

Alright, coach of the year?

Sean Payton
Lovie Smith
Mike Nolan

My short list right now would be Payton, Nolan, Mangini and Billick.

[crashintonickdm]

cowboys vs. giants will be huge in 3 weeks. the outcome will be different from a month agos debacle.

[VanHorneDog]

cowboys vs. giants will be huge in 3 weeks. the outcome will be different from a month agos debacle.

i dunno, you guys could be 2 up at that point. the giants just look terrible right now. defense has more holes than swiss cheese and Eli is just. :thumbsdow

[41ravens]

awesome game last night. very excited to see the giants struggling. if we can keep up our pace, we should take the division easily.

[twosteppinpun]

My short list right now would be Payton, Nolan, Mangini and Billick.

Forgot about Mangini.
I'm biased. I'm a 9ers fan, and I think Nolan, although he's made some young coach mistakes has worked a freakin miracle with that team. I mean, I expected us to go 6-10, and there's a good chance they'll go 8-8.

[UNC41]

Forgot about Mangini.
I'm biased. I'm a 9ers fan, and I think Nolan, although he's made some young coach mistakes has worked a freakin miracle with that team. I mean, I expected us to go 6-10, and there's a good chance they'll go 8-8.

I think you were the only one expecting the Niners to win six games this year. I was thinking four. :lol

[Tiduwho]

Well, this is it. The week I've been waiting for since August. Bears vs. Pats week!!


Don't worry, I hope to pull out all the stops. I'm giddy with anticipation (and worry...). :multi



In honor, let us go back to the good ole days!! You're going to love this UglyNakedGuy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MKiuhnmDbY


New England, the Patriots ARE WE!!!

[twosteppinpun]

I think you were the only one expecting the Niners to win six games this year. I was thinking four. :lol

Our schedule wasn't that bad.
I mean, we got creamed by the Chiefs and Bears.

But, I was expecting to sweep the Rams, which actually may be in question now.
Split with the Cards.
Beat the Lions and Packers.
Then some random other game, that's 6.

We still have to play the Saints and the Broncos. So there's 2 losses.
I don't think we can beat the Seahawks in Seattle though.

It's just wierd for me, I mean the 9ers have been bad for a while now, and we're actually in playoff contention.

[twosteppinpun]

In honor, let us go back to the good ole days!! You're going to love this UglyNakedGuy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MKiuhnmDbY


Ummm....holy shit

[twosteppinpun]

Well shit...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/11/21/BAGAVMH8OR14.DTL

[thebigv]

Nice job, Bryant. Glad that virus is out of Cleveland.

[twosteppinpun]

He was doing ok.
I mean had some rants, but Dilfer calmed him down.
I have a feeling he won't last much longer in SF.

[Tiduwho]

Well shit...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/11/21/BAGAVMH8OR14.DTL



Crap, he's my 3rd/4th receiver...

[thebigv]

Dilfer


Double goes for Dilfer. Douche. Nozzle.

[VanHorneDog]

so, how about the best team in football? the chargers? damn straight

[Tiduwho]

so, how about the best team in football? the chargers? damn straight


I think Vic Carruci has it straight. :hug

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9820184

[41ravens]

I think Vic Carruci has it straight. :hug

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9820184

i don't know. i'd almost argue that their comebacks make them look better. but i suppose if you're that good, you shouldn't be down by 17 points in the first place. hmmm...let's see.

1. chargers - they look ridiculous right now. lt is unstoppable.
2. bears - i thought they'd lose at least two on this road trip. i stand corrected.
3. colts - exposed? probably not. everyone was waiting for them to lose, anyways.
4. ravens - their defense is stupid good. that's all there is to it.
5. tie: cowboys and pats - yeah, i'm gonna be a biased fan here. with the third best d in the league and the third or fourth highest scoring offense, the boys look really good right now. the pats lost two in a row, but then killed green bay. but let's be honest, who wouldn't have beat the piss out of green bay on sunday? huge game coming up against the bears.

[Trippin4136]

I'd still put Denver ahead of Dallas. Denver could be so much better if they could only get rid of Plummer and insert a QB who doesn't fuck up every 4th quarter.

[Tiduwho]

I'm thinking about becoming a Romosexual, if it means I could get Jessica Simpson.

[UNC41]

I'm thinking about becoming a Romosexual, if it means I could get Jessica Simpson.

She's banging John Mayer again.

[41ravens]

I'd still put Denver ahead of Dallas. Denver could be so much better if they could only get rid of Plummer and insert a QB who doesn't fuck up every 4th quarter.

yeah, i forgot about denver. oh well. throw them in at 5 and put the pats/boys at 6.


and romo's just doing jessica to get into the circles. i give it a month before he's nailing someone like scarlett johannson.

[seekupig]

I'd still put Denver ahead of Dallas.


until KC beats Denver tomorrow night....:D

[VanHorneDog]

after going 11-4 last week ill start my predictions for this week. :D

Miami at Detroit (Miami 34-12)
Tampa Bay at Dallas (Dallas 28-17)
Denver at Kansas City (Kansas City 17-7)

[BotheDMBFan]

So, they suspended Ricky Manning Jr for one game, on Da Bears biggest game of the regular season, when they could have done it any other game of the year(Like, oh, I don't know, the week he pleaded no contest and got his sentance.)

Oh well, that's the NFL for ya.

[Tiduwho]

Wow, the fans sure are letting Joey have it. They're booing him nonstop.


Your entire team and MANAGEMENT sucks, it wasn't just Joey's fault.

[zachyd]

I wish I followed football...

:(

[41ravens]

Wow, the fans sure are letting Joey have it. They're booing him nonstop.


Your entire team and MANAGEMENT sucks, it wasn't just Joey's fault.

yeah, why boo him? i'd start with the gm and work their way down with the boos.

and i don't understand the manning, jr. thing, either. there must be some reason the suspension came about now, but i haven't heard it. pretty big game for him to have to miss.

roughly half an hour till kickoff. i love thanksgiving. hopefully i'll get to see most of the game.

[Tiduwho]

Jesus Christ, it's Romomania on the ESPN boards.

[41ravens]

Jesus Christ, it's Romomania on the ESPN boards.

sportscenter should be interesting. all i want is for him to keep it up.

[41ravens]

so, looks like the broncos are gonna lose. cutler time?

[Bartndrpleez]

after going 11-4 last week ill start my predictions for this week. :D

Miami at Detroit (Miami 34-12)
Tampa Bay at Dallas (Dallas 28-17)
Denver at Kansas City (Kansas City 17-7)

Good stuff. 3-0. :)

[Tiduwho]

A poem:


BRADY


Brady, you're my QB in tight pants
And I love you
You're the starter in my fantasy
League for two


Brady, there are so many ways
I want to catch your passes
Won't you throw me something softly
Down the field?


Your cleft chin makes me such a fool
Your eyes captivate
And though you have good protection
Won't you just throw me a ball?


I'm a tight end, but I hope to one day
Be your wide receiver
How I long for you to hit me
In the slot



Forever, let there be two-a-days
When we can play together
Let me hear you call your audibles
In my ear



On the field I see no one else but you
There's no other player for me
And yes, I want to help you reach completion
You're rated highest in the league



Brady, your balls are the only balls I need
In my end zone, is where I want you to be


Cause Brady, there's a touchdown I want you to throw
You're the QB of my life, you're my Brady.

[Tiduwho]

Okay, don't worry I didn't write that myself. Here, it's an amazing piece of work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ufwukWgKfI

[xBigNastyx]

:ugh

[VanHorneDog]

after going 11-4 last week ill start my predictions for this week. :D

Miami at Detroit (Miami 34-12)
Tampa Bay at Dallas (Dallas 28-17)
Denver at Kansas City (Kansas City 17-7)

real scores

Miami 27, Detroit 10
Dallas 38, Tampa Bay 10
Kansas City 19, Denver 10

not a bad turkey day for me, predicted pretty well i think. although i gave tampa bays offense
probably more than it deserved


Good stuff. 3-0. :)

:D :thumbsup

sundays picks

Arizona at Minnesota (Minnesota 23-10)
Carolina at Washington (Carolina 24-12)
Cincinnati at Cleveland (Cincinnati 35-17)
Houston at N.Y. Jets (N.Y. Jets 19-7)
Jacksonville at Buffalo (Buffalo 14-13)
New Orleans at Atlanta (New Orleans 31-28)
Pittsburgh at Baltimore (Baltimore 17-7)
San Francisco at St. Louis (San Fransisco 27-20)
Oakland at San Diego (San Diego 1,000,000-0)
Chicago at New England (New England 24-13)
N.Y. Giants at Tennessee (N.Y. Giants 28-14)
Philadelphia at Indianapolos (Indianapolos 35-10)

this is an interesting week indeed, lots of home teams will lose, again. :cool

[Tiduwho]

:ugh


Did you watch the "New England, the patriots are we!" video I posted a page ago? It really is pretty funny to look back on, you gotta love the 80s.

[DMBfan41]

The Jets defense is looking real good, i mean, they are playing the texans, but yeah, they look real good

[SoRight24]

J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!

Okay, granted we're beating the Texans, but still.

Over the .500 hump!

[Trippin4136]

drew brees is playing out of his dome right now.

[SoRight24]

And here's to a Bears win tonight, so we can gain a game on the Pats!

[Trippin4136]

Here's to the Bears b/c screw the Patriots.

[SoRight24]

Another good reason.

[Trippin4136]

Classy :rollseyes

why do i need to be classy about it? I dislike the Patriots as much as any team in the NFL and I'm expressing it.

[xBigNastyx]

why do i need to be classy about it? I dislike the Patriots as much as any team in the NFL and I'm expressing it.

Like I said, that's classy of you. Why even mention it. I don't come here and put down all the teams I don't like, what's the point?

You don't even mention how your team is up 21-0, you're just focused on talking shit about the Patriots..

[Trippin4136]

SoRight mentioned he's rooting for the Bears and so did I. I'm sorry my rooting against the Pats hits such a nerve with you.

GIANTS UP 21-0 AT HALFTIME.

happy?

[xBigNastyx]

SoRight mentioned he's rooting for the Bears and so did I. I'm sorry my rooting against the Pats hits such a nerve with you.

GIANTS UP 21-0 AT HALFTIME.

happy?

I'm not mad, I just find it humerous and pathetic the way you are.



If I had gone into the MLB thread during a Yankees game against for example the Mariners, and just gone "Here's to the Ms beating up the Yankees cause I hate the Yankees" you woulda freaked out. Don't be a hypocrit. Practice what you preach when you tell me to worry about my team. Why don't you do the same.

[Trippin4136]

:lol ok, you're right, you know my every move

[xBigNastyx]

:lol ok, you're right, you know my every move


I do, because you HAVE done that. :lol

In the past you have told me to just worry about the Red Sox and stop just bashing the Yankees. It's a fact. Nice try though. Why can't you practice what you preach?


Anyways, Seau has been a monster this year, and he'll be out for a while. Hopefully he can come back for the playoffs and win a championship.

[Trippin4136]

I think you care wayyyy too much about what I say and think about the Patriots.

[Tiduwho]

So anyways about FOOTBALL...


Here's to a good 2nd half.

[Trippin4136]

So anyways about FOOTBALL...


Here's to a good 2nd half.

I think the Bears get back in this game if Grossman can actually hit one of those deep balls. That seems to be their M.O. Hit the deep balls, get the points, D does the rest.

[luke7]

Seems like 85% of the NFL teams are 5-6.

[xBigNastyx]

I think you care wayyyy too much about what I say and think about the Patriots.

If only you knew about what you were talking about.

[BotheDMBFan]

This game is a lot better than the score looks.

The new turf is shit though.

[BotheDMBFan]

God, whenever Da Bears start rolling someone fucks up.


In all honesty, we should be leading this game, but we keep giving it away.

[41ravens]

oh rex...

rex, rex, rex...

[BotheDMBFan]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We need a TD on this drive.

[41ravens]

bad call. the bears just caught a huge break.

[xBigNastyx]

AWFUL CALL.


The Pats get a LOT of phantom pass interference calls against them, and they are all crucial. RIDICULOUS.

[41ravens]

the bears do not deserve that touchdown.

[xBigNastyx]

First Hawkins gets a phantom pass int called against him, then Hobbs gets a phantom holding penalty.

And yet another game where the officials are trying to take the game away from the Patriots.

[BotheDMBFan]

Oh hush with that, there were about 2-3 plays where they should have been called for PI.

These officials do suck ripe monkey balls though.

[SoRight24]

Finally....

The Bears D needs to step up here.

[BotheDMBFan]

Raiders might actually beat the Bolts, which would be amazing.

[41ravens]

Raiders might actually beat the Bolts, which would be amazing.

and funny. hilariously funny.

[xBigNastyx]

Oh hush with that, there were about 2-3 plays where they should have been called for PI.

These officials do suck ripe monkey balls though.

Not quite.


If you are gonna argue that the Bears deserve that TD, than you are insane.

[BotheDMBFan]

I'm not saying they deserve that TD, but there is at least one other one that they do, so it's all relative.

[41ravens]

shouldn't have doubled that.

[BotheDMBFan]

Doubled what?

[41ravens]

Doubled what?

the double reverse. he should've kept the first one. doesn't matter now, though.

[BotheDMBFan]

Damn it Brian, you're the best LB in the leauge and you got fucked up by a boy that is whiter than you are!

[SoRight24]

Or.....not

[BotheDMBFan]

Anyone else here hate Aikman and Buck on the sticks?

[41ravens]

Anyone else here hate Aikman and Buck on the sticks?

i actually like them.

[BotheDMBFan]

Aikman's ok, but Buck annoys me more than every Philly fan ever.

[41ravens]

in other news, the titans have battled back to 21-14 and have just gotten the ball back. let's go titans!

[xBigNastyx]

Anyone else here hate Aikman and Buck on the sticks?

They are COMPLETELY worthless.

I like Aikman's subtle criticizing of the Pats replacing their grass with turf like when Brady threw a pick, Aikman goes "maybe it was because of the new turf." Sounded like he was trying to say that they blamed their last weeks poor play on the grass which is why they changed to turf.

Does that make sense?

That said, Aikman is a fucking idiot along with Joe =Buck, and everyone knows I don't like him.


This Pats game SHOULD be 17-3, but it;s not and it's not ONLY cause of the refs.

[BotheDMBFan]

Joe Buck is a lil bitch.


"WHOA! Lots of contact but no penalty."



The fucker fell down. Man, this guy is the best Yellow Journalist I've heard. Whenever T.O. is on he watches him like a Hawk.


"T.O. just tied his shoes!!! Does that mean he wants more money on his contract?!?!"

All of that is compliments of my friend, and fellow badass Greg(or TempHelpNeeded).

[xBigNastyx]

in other news, the titans have battled back to 21-14 and have just gotten the ball back. let's go titans!

Since others here do it, I'll go it too. GO TITANS I HATE THE GIANTS!

[BotheDMBFan]

They are COMPLETELY worthless.

I like Aikman's subtle criticizing of the Pats replacing their grass with turf like when Brady threw a pick, Aikman goes "maybe it was because of the new turf." Sounded like he was trying to say that they blamed their last weeks poor play on the grass which is why they changed to turf.

Does that make sense?

That said, Aikman is a fucking idiot along with Joe =Buck, and everyone knows I don't like him.


This Pats game SHOULD be 17-3, but it;s not and it's not ONLY cause of the refs.

It should really be 17-17, but you can keep on bitchin, I'll keep praying.

[BotheDMBFan]

Since others here do it, I'll go it too. GO TITANS I HATE THE GIANTS!


Eh, I could care less either way, so long as Barber doesn't fuck up.

[41ravens]

so is this the bears new game plan? just lob it up there and hope there's a penalty called?

[BotheDMBFan]

Eh, if it works, I won't complain.

[BotheDMBFan]

Also, I've always wondered, on a pass interference call, if the pass is dropped, does it count against the QB's stats?

[xBigNastyx]

It should really be 17-17, but you can keep on bitchin, I'll keep praying.

Not really. The Patriots havent been given any 50 yd freebie pass int called that are phantom calls.


The refs are taking this game away from the Pats.


That pass int called just now on Hobbs shouldnt have been called either.

[41ravens]

21-21. hot damn! man, do i hope the titans win this game.

[41ravens]

Also, I've always wondered, on a pass interference call, if the pass is dropped, does it count against the QB's stats?

no. i don't believe so.

[BotheDMBFan]

Not really. The Patriots havent been given any 50 yd freebie pass int called that are phantom calls.


The refs are taking this game away from the Pats.


That pass int called just now on Hobbs shouldnt have been called either.

Eh, maybe. That one was kinda toucy because he hit him up high first.

[BotheDMBFan]

Vince Young is a fucking stud.

And Jake Plummer is a uniq.

[Trippin4136]

to no surprise to me, the Giants blow the lead and Eli plays like shit.

Games like this make me wonder why the front office backs Coughlin so much

[41ravens]

did the titans get the ball back? what happened?

[BotheDMBFan]

Biggest 3rd down of the year.

[SoRight24]

Bears need to get a stop here!

[BotheDMBFan]

FUCK!


I figured we'd lose today, but god damn it.

[41ravens]

24-21. titans win. amazing. absolutely amazing.

[Trippin4136]

did the titans get the ball back? what happened?

yep. Eli threw another pick.

No shock to me and the Giants piss pour play that harkens back to the Dave Brown era is just another example of this franchise simply cannot get out its own way.

[xBigNastyx]

On a serious note, not just trying to poke fun at the Giants, but Coughlin is a moron, why is he still coaching?

[BotheDMBFan]

I love violence.

[BotheDMBFan]

On a serious note, not just trying to poke fun at the Giants, but Coughlin is a moron, why is he still coaching?


He's jewish.

[SoRight24]

He's jewish.

And so are the damn Bears!

[xBigNastyx]

See how the refs arent calling anything for the Pats? That shoulda been a personal foul on Tillman, but the refs dont call anything. RIDIC.

The refs tried to give this game to the Bears, but no such luck.