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xBigNastyx
03-06-2007, 04:36 PM
We throw great around all too often when talking about football players. I've watched every game of Porter's career, and he has been one of the best if not the best 3-4 OLB for the better part of a decade. He's no longer that player.



Porter sucked this year. That's not flip flopping, that's looking at someone for who is is now rather than who he was.

well you changed your opinion drastically from what it was before.


Had the Steelers kept him, I think we would still be seeing you say "Porter is the best 3-4 OLB in the game...But since he is gone, your opinion changes...

xBigNastyx
03-06-2007, 04:37 PM
The Patriots will contend this year because they have Brady. He wins in spite of the mess going on around him.

Can you imagine Manning be called into Dungy's office, and being told, "We solved your WR problem. We signed Wes Welker, and sent a high draft pick to a division rival in the process".


If you knew anything, you'd know that they aren't looking at Welker as the answer...They are going after Stallworth or Moss.

But yeah, you're right, they are telling Brady Welker is the man now int he receiving corps..:rolleyes Where do you pull this shit from?

You make up stuff to strenghten your arguements.

dmb71687
03-06-2007, 04:40 PM
If you knew anything, you'd know that they aren't looking at Welker as the answer...They are going after Stallworth or Moss.

But yeah, you're right, they are telling Brady Welker is the man now int he receiving corps..:rolleyes Where do you pull this shit from?

You make up stuff to strenghten your arguements.

Actually, I disagree with that. As John Clayton just said, they only have 6 draft picks left. They already made their trade for a WR, they're not going to do another one and get left with even less draft picks, especially for a team that likes to work from that draft as much as NE does. It does in fact look like they traded for Welker as the answer to their WR problems...

dmbmuskie
03-06-2007, 04:40 PM
We all have a very different view of a great player.

Hutchinson was just an example of a botched front office attempt to save a little money biting them in the ass. They didn't want to let him go, and Minnesota put a "poison pill" in his offer sheet that forced their hand. If they make him a franchise player rather than transition player he's still in Seattle.

Seriosuly, I cannot think of another great player to leave his team in his prime. Brees might fit in that catagory, but they might have had a better player on the roster.

dmb71687
03-06-2007, 04:42 PM
We all have a very different view of a great player.

Hutchinson was just an example of a botched front office attempt to save a little money biting them in the ass. They didn't want to let him go, and Minnesota put a "poison pill" in his offer sheet that forced their hand. If they make him a franchise player rather than transition player he's still in Seattle.

Seriosuly, I cannot think of another great player to leave his team in his prime. Brees might fit in that catagory, but they might have had a better player on the roster.

As I stated before, Lance Briggs.

dmbmuskie
03-06-2007, 04:44 PM
well you changed your opinion drastically from what it was before.


Had the Steelers kept him, I think we would still be seeing you say "Porter is the best 3-4 OLB in the game...But since he is gone, your opinion changes...

He might still very well be, but he's not the player he was. His pass rushing skill are really lacking. I think the Steelers should have held onto him for 1 more year, but he's not worth 20 million in guarantees at this point.

xBigNastyx
03-06-2007, 04:45 PM
As I stated before, Lance Briggs.


Don't worry about what he says.

xBigNastyx
03-06-2007, 04:45 PM
Actually, I disagree with that. As John Clayton just said, they only have 6 draft picks left. They already made their trade for a WR, they're not going to do another one and get left with even less draft picks, especially for a team that likes to work from that draft as much as NE does. It does in fact look like they traded for Welker as the answer to their WR problems...

I'm pretty sure Stallworth is just a FA, isn't he? They wouldn't have to trade for him..

Or am I wrong?

dmbmuskie
03-06-2007, 04:46 PM
As I stated before, Lance Briggs.

Briggs isn't going anywhere. I have to believe that shipped Jones out to save Money to give Briggs.

I should clarify, that I meant leaving via free agency, so I don't get accused of being a flip flopper later.

Trippin4136
03-06-2007, 04:48 PM
I'm pretty sure Stallworth is just a FA, isn't he? They wouldn't have to trade for him..

Or am I wrong?

You are correct. Stallworth is an UFA and the top UFA WR this year as sad as that is.

dmb71687
03-06-2007, 04:49 PM
Briggs isn't going anywhere. I have to believe that shipped Jones out to save Money to give Briggs.

I should clarify, that I meant leaving via free agency, so I don't get accused of being a flip flopper later.

Briggs isn't going anywhere???????

Do you realize the guy said he word for word "will not play for this organization again.":lol Briggs is definitely, definitely gone. They shipped Jones out to give time for Benson, had NOTHING to do with Briggs.

thebigv
03-06-2007, 04:49 PM
Edit: Damn you Jon...but he probably won't sign anywhere for a while, Rosenhaus is his agent.

Trippin4136
03-06-2007, 04:50 PM
Briggs will hopefully go to the Giants, although they certainly cannot afford him with draft picks or against their cap number.

Jesus, the Giants are just a spiral of mediocrity. ::hangs head::

dmbmuskie
03-06-2007, 04:52 PM
Briggs isn't going anywhere???????

Do you realize the guy said he word for word "will not play for this organization again.":lol Briggs is definitely, definitely gone. They shipped Jones out to give time for Benson, had NOTHING to do with Briggs.

That doesn't mean shit to me. Players are always pissed when they get tagged. Once they throw 30 million in guaranteed money at him it will be all good.

dmb71687
03-06-2007, 04:57 PM
That doesn't mean shit to me. Players are always pissed when they get tagged. Once they throw 30 million in guaranteed money at him it will be all good.

Okay, you very obviously have not been following the story....

I'll leave it at that.

Trippin4136
03-06-2007, 05:01 PM
Can we just all agree that Nate Clements, his agent, and the 49ers are all complicit in the largest unnecessary explosion of contract values, ever?

I still can't get over that deal. What in the HELL was San Francisco thinking?

dmbmuskie
03-06-2007, 05:04 PM
Can we just all agree that Nate Clements, his agent, and the 49ers are all complicit in the largest unnecessary explosion of contract values, ever?

I still can't get over that deal. What in the HELL was San Francisco thinking?

It's ridiculous. I'm sure there will be a market correction.

The money thrown at the guards is equally insane. Hutchinson should be the ceiling for a guard, not the guy that has to be exceeded.

cbotnyse
03-06-2007, 05:05 PM
That doesn't mean shit to me. Players are always pissed when they get tagged. Once they throw 30 million in guaranteed money at him it will be all good.Briggs wants Urlacher money. He doesnt deserve that and it doesnt make sense for the Bears to pay him that, IMO. The LB position is the easiest position to fill, and playing next to Urlacher is a plus for any LB. He will be gone.

Can we just all agree that Nate Clements, his agent, and the 49ers are all complicit in the largest unnecessary explosion of contract values, ever?

I still can't get over that deal. What in the HELL was San Francisco thinking?I agree, that was insane. And for a team like SF to do that adds to the insanity.

thebigv
03-06-2007, 05:06 PM
Isn't Clements deal only 22 mil in guarunteed money? Something ridick like that?

Trippin4136
03-06-2007, 05:08 PM
Isn't Clements deal only 22 mil in guarunteed money? Something ridick like that?

Yes it is. But I guess that's a step up from ZERO which most free agents historically got.

dmbmuskie
03-06-2007, 05:10 PM
Isn't Clements deal only 22 mil in guarunteed money? Something ridick like that?

Yeah, it's still insane.

thebigv
03-06-2007, 05:10 PM
True. I wonder if I can convince my boss to raise my ceiling up to about 10 mil from what I make now. It'd just be nice to say that I have that kind of money kickin' around that I'll never see.

dmbmuskie
03-06-2007, 05:11 PM
Briggs wants Urlacher money. He doesnt deserve that and it doesnt make sense for the Bears to pay him that, IMO. The LB position is the easiest position to fill, and playing next to Urlacher is a plus for any LB. He will be gone.

Urlacher money is a bargain in the current market.

Trippin4136
03-06-2007, 06:41 PM
All I'm gonna say, Joey Porter had all of 39 tackles and 6.5 sacks (not so bad) last year.

This gets you 20+ million in guaranteed money in the NFL now?

This offseason could be setting a very dangerous precedent that could ultimately make the NFL's finances mirror that of the NBA.

Hopefully this is a one year phenomenon.

dmbmuskie
03-06-2007, 10:16 PM
All I'm gonna say, Joey Porter had all of 39 tackles and 6.5 sacks (not so bad) last year.

This gets you 20+ million in guaranteed money in the NFL now?

This offseason could be setting a very dangerous precedent that could ultimately make the NFL's finances mirror that of the NBA. He could be very succesful in a 4-3 where less was expected out of him getting to the passer in my opinion.

Hopefully this is a one year phenomenon.

Porter also had all of those sacks against the Browns, Bucs, and Dolphins. He never showed up when it mattered. He could be very succesful in a 4-3 where less was expected out of him getting to the passer in my opinion.


The market is going to correct itself. Salaries in the NFL got out of hand about 8-10 years ago as well. Guys were taking up 10% of the salary cap then as well.

thebigv
03-06-2007, 11:31 PM
Banta-Cain to the Niners...whats going on over there Jason? Honestly, how deep is your depth chart right now?

BotheDMBFan
03-07-2007, 02:13 AM
NOthing to really add except that God Damn you Drew Rosenhaus....even if you are awesome.

dmbmuskie
03-07-2007, 03:12 PM
Banta-Cain to the Niners...whats going on over there Jason? Honestly, how deep is your depth chart right now?

I think we're switching to the 4-3. That the only way this makes sense. If we are, I think we need to do something radical. My trade Polamalu stance to the Redskins is starting to make a lot of sense to me.

The 49ers did a nice job on this one. This is one of those moves that good teams make.

thebigv
03-07-2007, 03:13 PM
Like draft Alex Smith? :)

dmbmuskie
03-07-2007, 03:21 PM
Like draft Alex Smith? :)

It's just a good football move. 3yrs 9mi for a guy coming into his own as a 3-4 linebacker who is a special teams demon. Plus he's got 2 rings. It makes too much sense for the 49ers.

I can see Alex Smith breaking out this year.

thebigv
03-07-2007, 03:24 PM
Oh, I think it's a great deal for both parties involved. Unfortunately, Alex Smith doesn't have the tools at his disposal right now. If they can get a contributing WR in the draft they'll be in good shape. I see Alex Smith breaking out as much as I see Charlie Frye, who isn't even going to be our QB next year.

Jamal Lewis has been in talks with the Browns, that would put those AD rumors to rest.

dmbmuskie
03-07-2007, 03:33 PM
Oh, I think it's a great deal for both parties involved. Unfortunately, Alex Smith doesn't have the tools at his disposal right now. If they can get a contributing WR in the draft they'll be in good shape. I see Alex Smith breaking out as much as I see Charlie Frye, who isn't even going to be our QB next year.

Jamal Lewis has been in talks with the Browns, that would put those AD rumors to rest.

I really don't know much about the 49ers to be honest. Any team who needs a reciever should draft Anthony Gonzales.

I think Peterson would be a better move than Lewis. Young and injury prone is better than old and injury prone. Lewis also has off field problems. I really think you guys need to look to someone to play in the trenches. Alan Branch would instantly make your 3-4 legit.

thebigv
03-07-2007, 03:39 PM
Alan Branch has looked like a bag of dicks in regards to off-season preparation. Very JaMarcus Russell like.

Young, not injury prone, and possessing every tool a NFL QB would desire is better than young and injury prone. I'd wager a bet that Quinn has taken harder and more frequent hits than AD over the years. I certainly don't think that Lewis is the ANSWER, but lets be serious...if Frye is still throwing the ball, our OL can't block 8 guys. Anyone remember the Baltimore game last year when Frye had the game locked up, but decided to throw a pick 6 to Ed Reed? All he had to do was take a sack, throw the ball away, do anything but throw an INT, and you have Phil Dawson coming onto the field to win the game. He lost all of my respect at that point. Very disappointing as I was his biggest fan when he arrived.

I agree with you about Gonzo. I think he's going to be a good NFL WR who'll make an instant impact wherever he goes. I think Chicago would be a good fit for him, without looking at other needs for the Bears. Lowkey, consistent and fast. He'd be a good compliment to Moose.

What do you think of Lynch? Potential wise.

Trippin4136
03-07-2007, 03:42 PM
The Browns would seriously overpay for an aging, worn Jamal Lewis instead of drafting a freak like Peterson? I wouldn't understand that move.

I can see Gonzo being an extremely productive, valuable #2 WR.

dmbmuskie
03-07-2007, 03:52 PM
Alan Branch has looked like a bag of dicks in regards to off-season preparation. Very JaMarcus Russell like.

Young, not injury prone, and possessing every tool a NFL QB would desire is better than young and injury prone. I'd wager a bet that Quinn has taken harder and more frequent hits than AD over the years. I certainly don't think that Lewis is the ANSWER, but lets be serious...if Frye is still throwing the ball, our OL can't block 8 guys. Anyone remember the Baltimore game last year when Frye had the game locked up, but decided to throw a pick 6 to Ed Reed? All he had to do was take a sack, throw the ball away, do anything but throw an INT, and you have Phil Dawson coming onto the field to win the game. He lost all of my respect at that point. Very disappointing as I was his biggest fan when he arrived.

I agree with you about Gonzo. I think he's going to be a good NFL WR who'll make an instant impact wherever he goes. I think Chicago would be a good fit for him, without looking at other needs for the Bears. Lowkey, consistent and fast. He'd be a good compliment to Moose.

What do you think of Lynch? Potential wise.

Almost all of the real good 3-4 guys look like shit. It's part of the job description. Every year people get up in arms about Casey Hampton failing the run test, and he always says "If I have to run 40 yards, I'm not doing my job.".

It's hard to judge a QB until you can keep him upright. Young guys make bad choices under duress.

I think Lynch tumbles way down the draft. His character issuses have to be a big concern. I think he'll be a good back, but not great. He kind of reminds me of Thomas Jones.

The knock on Gonzo is that he has never been the main guy, but I don't see why that is an issue. I think he has been the best reciever at OSU the last 2 years.

dmbmuskie
03-07-2007, 03:55 PM
Clayton is reporting on ESPN radio in Pittsburgh that Lewis to Cleveland is about a done deal.

thebigv
03-07-2007, 04:06 PM
Freaks don't break like candy canes.

Trippin4136
03-07-2007, 04:08 PM
Clayton is reporting on ESPN radio in Pittsburgh that Lewis to Cleveland is about a done deal.

That is really surprising and certainly opens the door for the #3 pick. Perhaps they are hoping Joe Thomas falls to them, but if the Lions take Thomas and the Browns sign Lewis, where do they go? Defense?

Trippin4136
03-07-2007, 04:09 PM
Freaks don't break like candy canes.

Teams will deal with broken bones, it's ligament and cartilage injuries that frighten them.

thebigv
03-07-2007, 04:11 PM
Almost all of the real good 3-4 guys look like shit. It's part of the job description. Every year people get up in arms about Casey Hampton failing the run test, and he always says "If I have to run 40 yards, I'm not doing my job.".

It's hard to judge a QB until you can keep him upright. Young guys make bad choices under duress.

I think Lynch tumbles way down the draft. His character issuses have to be a big concern. I think he'll be a good back, but not great. He kind of reminds me of Thomas Jones.

The knock on Gonzo is that he has never been the main guy, but I don't see why that is an issue. I think he has been the best reciever at OSU the last 2 years.

TJ is a good comparison to Lynch.

As for keeping a QB upright...I'll go back to Quinn being knocked the fuck around, he seemed to only throw 7 INTs in the past two years, and yes even teams like Stanford knocked him around. I'm sorry, but finding a servicable RB is possible in FA and trades. I'm sticking to my guns and saying that Quinn is the type of QB that shouldn't be let passed, especially with NO leader on the team. And the INT I was speaking of, Frye wasn't under the kind of duress that forces a QB to make that decision. No time on the clock, all you need is a FG, why force something? That should be the FIRST thing going through his head as he takes the snap. Before the pressure.

I've heard the same things about Gonzo...it's not like he was expected to do the things he did all season, he just performed. McKnight and Samardijza were forced to put up the numbers they did because of the anemic running game. I think Gonzo is much better than McKnight and as good as Samardijza (which is a moot point) for the NFL. I hope he gets into a good situation where he can buy all the bed bubbles he wants. :D

thebigv
03-07-2007, 04:13 PM
Teams will deal with broken bones, it's ligament and cartilage injuries that frighten them.

Didn't he have ligament damage in his ankle? Forgive me for not looking it up, but he has been injured and missed games every year in the past 3 years. That says quite a bit about anyone's durability. If he breaks a bone every year, that's as damaging for that year as a torn ACL.

Trippin4136
03-07-2007, 04:15 PM
Didn't he have ligament damage in his ankle? Forgive me for not looking it up, but he has been injured and missed games every year in the past 3 years. That says quite a bit about anyone's durability. If he breaks a bone every year, that's as damaging for that year as a torn ACL.

I thought he just broke his ankle.

I don't mean to lessen the severity of broken bones, but the rehab and long term effects are not equal to that of ligament damage.

thebigv
03-07-2007, 04:16 PM
I thought he just broke his ankle.

I don't mean to lessen the severity of broken bones, but the rehab and long term effects are not equal to that of ligament damage.

I agree with you 100%.

But, if the kid isn't going to be able to take the pounding that he's going to recieve with a QB who can't beat a soft zone to save his life, I don't want to waste 3rd pick money. Lee Suggs/Willie Green all over again.

Trippin4136
03-07-2007, 04:20 PM
Fair enough. So where do you think the Browns go? Defense? And if so, will they really make Gaines Adams or even Alan Branch the #3 pick? Do they just go with the best player on the board and take Calvin Johnson despite their serious need for help elsewhere? This signing is going to make the Browns selection very interesting.

dmbmuskie
03-07-2007, 04:21 PM
Are you guys really going to move Steinbach to tackle?

dmbmuskie
03-07-2007, 04:21 PM
Fair enough. So where do you think the Browns go? Defense? And if so, will they really make Gaines Adams or even Alan Branch the #3 pick? Do they just go with the best player on the board and take Calvin Johnson despite their serious need for help elsewhere? This signing is going to make the Browns selection very interesting.

It makes trading the pick more appealing than ever.

thebigv
03-07-2007, 04:24 PM
Depends who is on board. I think Quinn is their posterboy right now. Crennel has his Weis ties, Lerner-Savage-Crennel were at all ND for his pro day last weekend. He'll kill the hearts and minds of every tOSU Browns fan, but the rest will be happy. I highly doubt Savage will trade down, he's a big proponent of BPA. I wouldn't have any issues with Calvin Johnson coming in, hell...I could throw a ball in the air and CJ/BE/KWII(SOLDIER!!!)/Joey Jurevicious could catch it. It'd be a pretty scary offense, especially if they went the route of Stanton/Palko/Zabransky(God no!)/Smith in the later rounds.

I think Quinn offers the quickest route to a leader, the defensive players available to our system aren't worth the 3rd pick in the draft. It's going to be real interesting to see how Minnesota and Miami act, considering they're both salivating over Quinn at this point. Who knows? I know I'm glad I'm not making this decision.

thebigv
03-07-2007, 04:25 PM
Are you guys really going to move Steinbach to tackle?

I fucking hope not. But who knows how the line will end up. We have some extremely versatile OL that can play just about anything. All that matters next year is how LeCharles Bentley comes back. If he's not 100% then it's all a moot point in my opinion.

dmbmuskie
03-07-2007, 04:27 PM
Depends who is on board. I think Quinn is their posterboy right now. Crennel has his Weis ties, Lerner-Savage-Crennel were at all ND for his pro day last weekend. He'll kill the hearts and minds of every tOSU Browns fan, but the rest will be happy. I highly doubt Savage will trade down, he's a big proponent of BPA. I wouldn't have any issues with Calvin Johnson coming in, hell...I could throw a ball in the air and CJ/BE/KWII(SOLDIER!!!)/Joey Jurevicious could catch it. It'd be a pretty scary offense, especially if they went the route of Stanton/Palko/Zabransky(God no!)/Smith in the later rounds.

I think Quinn offers the quickest route to a leader, the defensive players available to our system aren't worth the 3rd pick in the draft. It's going to be real interesting to see how Minnesota and Miami act, considering they're both salivating over Quinn at this point. Who knows? I know I'm glad I'm not making this decision.

If your front office really thinks that Adams could play OLB then I think he's a hell of a pick as well. I really haven't looked at his agility drill numbers to get a good idea.

dmbmuskie
03-07-2007, 04:28 PM
I fucking hope not. But who knows how the line will end up. We have some extremely versatile OL that can play just about anything. All that matters next year is how LeCharles Bentley comes back. If he's not 100% then it's all a moot point in my opinion.

Fraley in between Steinbach and Bentley would be a real nice start to an o-line.

thebigv
03-07-2007, 04:31 PM
We've been 'starting' this o-line for way too long.

Funny that Steinbach thought the Browns were going to take him over Faine in '03. Now Faine has been shipped off to NO and Steinbach is in Cleveland.

dmbmuskie
03-07-2007, 04:33 PM
Correction, Lewis hasn't signed yet. Sorry.

thebigv
03-07-2007, 04:36 PM
Jerk. I hope we get Lewis and then bench his ass for racking up yards against us.

dmbmuskie
03-07-2007, 04:37 PM
Jerk. I hope we get Lewis and then bench his ass for racking up yards against us.

You've got to love live radio.:lol

thebigv
03-07-2007, 04:43 PM
That's why I stay away with it. I tend to get my info a little later than usual for the NFL because the rumors are ridiculous.

I'm so tired of reading an article a day that says either Quinn is the next Manning or the next Leaf. For fuck's sake, I think everyone can at least agree he's not going to be either. He has the potential to be another Peyton, but no fucking way he's Ryan Leaf.

dmbmuskie
03-07-2007, 04:46 PM
That's why I stay away with it. I tend to get my info a little later than usual for the NFL because the rumors are ridiculous.

I'm so tired of reading an article a day that says either Quinn is the next Manning or the next Leaf. For fuck's sake, I think everyone can at least agree he's not going to be either. He has the potential to be another Peyton, but no fucking way he's Ryan Leaf.

He's somewhere between the 2, but closer to Manning. Leaf would have dropped like crazy today for his behavior leading up to the draft.

thebigv
03-07-2007, 05:03 PM
Absolutely. It's interesting to read the comparable bashing of Manning to Quinn. "Couldn't win the big game", "Folds under pressure", "Maxed potential". Who knows...

dmbmuskie
03-07-2007, 09:51 PM
Now it's official.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2791313

It's a boom or bust proposition for the Browns.

thebigv
03-07-2007, 10:42 PM
Looks like Droughns may be out now. His 1.75 mil roster bonus could be used in other places.

dmbmuskie
03-07-2007, 11:08 PM
They'd give you guys a nice 1-2 punch if it could work money wise.

thebigv
03-08-2007, 12:04 PM
Nice job ATL, sign Horn. Umm...little too late on that punchline.

dmbmuskie
03-08-2007, 12:17 PM
Nice job ATL, sign Horn. Umm...little too late on that punchline.

I can see Atlanta turning into one of the real jokes in the NFL. Overbearing owners just don't work in the NFL.

cbotnyse
03-08-2007, 12:25 PM
Willis McGahee to Baltimore

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2791831&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

dmbmuskie
03-08-2007, 12:27 PM
You guys really didn't do bad in trading Jones when you see that.

cbotnyse
03-08-2007, 12:30 PM
You guys really didn't do bad in trading Jones when you see that.no kidding....a third and seventh round pick? :ugh

dmbmuskie
03-08-2007, 12:36 PM
no kidding....a third and seventh round pick? :ugh

It was 2 3rds, but still. You guys got a high 2nd, and moved a problem.

thebigv
03-08-2007, 12:40 PM
Damiun Williams and Shaud...wait a minute, WHO? I had 11 FF teams last year and I have no idea who either of those guys are. Buffalo...wow.

dmbmuskie
03-08-2007, 12:41 PM
They have a senile old man running their team. It's understandable.

thebigv
03-08-2007, 12:43 PM
I really don't want to have to face McGahee twice a year.

dmbmuskie
03-08-2007, 12:46 PM
I really don't want to have to face McGahee twice a year.

He's probably the 3rd best back in the division. A few years back I would have never guessed that Jamal Lewis was the least feared back in the AFC North.

cbotnyse
03-08-2007, 12:48 PM
I really don't want to have to face McGahee twice a year.We play Baltimore twice? :shrug

thebigv
03-08-2007, 12:49 PM
You're putting Parker above McGahee? Come on...bias? :D

Browns fan.


Ok, here's the list of the big 4.

ND, Browns, Pistons, Red Wings, Braves.

Dad is catholic. Parents are from northern Ohio, which takes care of the next three...and I was born and raised in GA. First sporting event I saw was the Braves. When the were winning as many games as the Browns do in 10 years. Yeah, do the math.

dmbmuskie
03-08-2007, 12:52 PM
Parker's put up 700 more yards in the last 2 seasons. I'd take Parker over about anyone not named LT or LJ.

thebigv
03-08-2007, 01:01 PM
Of course you would, he's the RB for your team. I'd also take Charlie Frye over Ben Roethlisberger.

dmbmuskie
03-08-2007, 01:03 PM
Of course you would, he's the RB for your team. I'd also take Charlie Frye over Ben Roethlisberger.

There was a point not so long ago where Parker was someone I hated, but as the season wore on he became a running back instead of someone who was really really fast. I think he'll be among the elite runners in the game in the near future.

thebigv
03-08-2007, 01:05 PM
Damnnit, you didn't bite on that comment. Ok, I'm out of fuel for this argument. I can't even start this battle at the present time. Once we get above .500 we'll talk. :)

dmbmuskie
03-08-2007, 01:08 PM
Damnnit, you didn't bite on that comment. Ok, I'm out of fuel for this argument. I can't even start this battle at the present time. Once we get above .500 we'll talk. :)

Frye is far less likely to die in a freak accident than Ben, but Miller is far less likely to die in a freak accident that K2. I think it's a wash.

I think we are going to be slugging it out for the basement of the division this year, and it's a shitty division.

Baltimore = Old
Cincy = Soft
Pittsburgh = Clueless
Cleveland = Cursed

thebigv
03-08-2007, 01:17 PM
That's a good way of putting it. I think of Baltimore can land Stanton, they'll have a pretty bright future.

Cincy is not soft, they're in jail. Palmer is a pussy, I can't stand him.

And you're right about being cursed. I can handle the heart-breaking losses when they don't come in droves.

dmbmuskie
03-08-2007, 01:20 PM
That's a good way of putting it. I think of Baltimore can land Stanton, they'll have a pretty bright future.

Cincy is not soft, they're in jail. Palmer is a pussy, I can't stand him.

And you're right about being cursed. I can handle the heart-breaking losses when they don't come in droves.

Baltimore has turned into the Raiders teams that made a run. They're so old. When they go, they're going to go quickly.

thebigv
03-09-2007, 04:54 PM
Droughns to the Giants for Tim Carter. Good trade for both sides involved. We'll see if Carter can stay healthy and be a viable #3 now that 'Cutt is gone.

Trippin4136
03-09-2007, 05:06 PM
Droughns to the Giants for Tim Carter. Good trade for both sides involved. We'll see if Carter can stay healthy and be a viable #3 now that 'Cutt is gone.

Chances are, no.

It may have been a good value deal for the Giants, but I don't see how Droughns is the answer. They could have gotten a better value and a better compliment to Jacobs in the draft.

thebigv
03-09-2007, 05:21 PM
Not much is to be expected out of Carter anyways. If he can just stretch the field for the other talent on the field he'll be serving his purpose. Regardless, Droughns was going to be cut, so anything we got in return works for me.

dmbmuskie
03-11-2007, 02:19 PM
I don't understand why the Pats didn't just man up, and make a run at Moss instead of going with Welker and Stallworth. Personally, I hated the Welker move, but Stallworth's deal might be even more questionable.

xBigNastyx
03-11-2007, 03:49 PM
Why am I not suprised that you STILL can't find anything positive to say about the Patriots?

I guess you can answer that question when the Pats are in the AFC game at least again this next season....

By the way, Stallworth is younger and doesn't have motivation issues...

dmbmuskie
03-11-2007, 06:22 PM
Why am I not suprised that you STILL can't find anything positive to say about the Patriots?

I guess you can answer that question when the Pats are in the AFC game at least again this next season....

By the way, Stallworth is younger and doesn't have motivation issues...

He's fragile. He's finished the seaon twice in 5 years. He's never had 1,000 yards. What good is there to say about him?

I bash a lot of teams. You should just block me. It would be good for you.

dmbmuskie
03-11-2007, 07:22 PM
Charger fans, Reebok has got it's hands on your team now too. It's not great, but atleast it's not the Vikings or Cards.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/chargers/20070310-9999-1n10chargers.html

xBigNastyx
03-11-2007, 08:30 PM
He's fragile. He's finished the seaon twice in 5 years. He's never had 1,000 yards. What good is there to say about him?

I bash a lot of teams. You should just block me. It would be good for you.



I bet you are a very unhappy person since all you do is wreak of negativity....

It's not fun hearing your posts, and I bet it's not fun hearing you speak...

And thanks for the advice, you're now blocked.

xBigNastyx
03-11-2007, 10:36 PM
He's fragile. He's finished the seaon twice in 5 years. He's never had 1,000 yards. What good is there to say about him?

I bash a lot of teams. You should just block me. It would be good for you.


He's never been at the top of a depth chart until last year....

He's never had a good QB throwing to him...

He has a lot of talent, that can not be disputed..

dmbmuskie
03-11-2007, 11:04 PM
Branch or Stallworth, who would you want? Be honest.

There are a lot of players with talent, who don't amount to shit in the NFL.

xBigNastyx
03-11-2007, 11:38 PM
Branch or Stallworth, who would you want? Be honest.

There are a lot of players with talent, who don't amount to shit in the NFL.

What does Branch have to do with ANYTHING?

dmbmuskie
03-11-2007, 11:47 PM
What does Branch have to do with ANYTHING?

The Pats refused to pay Branch, and because of the hole he left at reciever they ended up over paying for a fragile underachiever.

The contract is really only a 1 year deal, so it is not as bad as it looks on the surface. His cap number is over 10 mil in the 2nd year due to roster and workout bonuses.

dmbmuskie
03-12-2007, 04:50 PM
I really like the Pats move of signing Kelley Washington, if he stays healthy. He's unlike any reciever they have on their roster, and should be a nice role player.

dmblynny
03-12-2007, 08:16 PM
He's never been at the top of a depth chart until last year....

He's never had a good QB throwing to him...

He has a lot of talent, that can not be disputed..
:lol :lol :lol


Now THAT'S a joke.

Good luck with Donte' and his health. Gives me another reason to be excited for our trip to New England this year.

dmb71687
03-13-2007, 10:55 AM
Moss to Green Bay deal seems to have gained a lot more muster, I have no idea how I feel about this...

Should be an interesting year, that will be for certain.

xBigNastyx
03-13-2007, 02:27 PM
:lol :lol :lol


Now THAT'S a joke.

Good luck with Donte' and his health. Gives me another reason to be excited for our trip to New England this year.

I was referring to his days in New Orleans...


Way to get worked up over nothing.

dmbmuskie
03-13-2007, 02:44 PM
I was referring to his days in New Orleans...


Way to get worked up over nothing.

Joe Horn did alright with shitty QBs in New Orleans.

Stallworth is a quick fix and he'll be gone next season. I'm sure he'll put up 150 yards in the opener, and pull his hammy the next practice. I still think you guys draft Gonzo, and he becomes your most reliable target by the halfway point.

dmbmuskie
03-13-2007, 03:18 PM
Here are SD's new uniforms. They're not bad, but they're not great.

I'm not a big fan of this.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/419705739_7a9fbe9a90_o.jpg

I'm a big fan of this.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/132/419705767_57a52bf610_o.jpg

Tiduwho
03-13-2007, 03:31 PM
Here are SD's new uniforms. They're not bad, but they're not great.

I'm not a big fan of this.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/419705739_7a9fbe9a90_o.jpg

I'm a big fan of this.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/132/419705767_57a52bf610_o.jpg

I don't like the helmets. Too white.

dmbmuskie
03-13-2007, 03:51 PM
I don't like the helmets. Too white.

I think LTs visor makes it look funny. I think it's a nice modern update to the powder blue uniform, but the navy blue uniform doesn't work for me. I think it's the white helmet.

I don't understand why they wouldn't have just stuck with having 2 different helmets.

dmbhoosier21
03-13-2007, 05:05 PM
Here are SD's new uniforms. They're not bad, but they're not great.

I'm not a big fan of this.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/419705739_7a9fbe9a90_o.jpg

I'm a big fan of this.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/132/419705767_57a52bf610_o.jpg


Huh, I like both of them especially the powder blues.

dmbmuskie
03-14-2007, 04:15 PM
Lance Briggs is an idiot. I'm sure GMs are lining up for someone who says they want to go somewhere to be the man on defense.

Tiduwho
03-14-2007, 06:36 PM
Lance Briggs is an idiot. I'm sure GMs are lining up for someone who says they want to go somewhere to be the man on defense.


The guy wants to be the #1 paid linebacker in the league. Part of me wants to see him go elsewhere just so he realizes how much of his game depends on Urlacher absorbing the entire middle of the field by himself. :BANG

dmbmuskie
03-14-2007, 07:02 PM
The guy wants to be the #1 paid linebacker in the league. Part of me wants to see him go elsewhere just so he realizes how much of his game depends on Urlacher absorbing the entire middle of the field by himself. :BANG

I don't have a problem with him wanting that kind of money because there is more money available than when the previous deals were done. You just cannot come out and have this fight in public. He made himself a me first guy rather than a team first guy for the rest of his time in football.

There are a lot of NFL people concerned that the new CBA is going to lead to countless hold outs because the game's best aren't getting paid that way. Clements is a nice DB, but what does his deal make Champ Bailey or Ed Reed worth?

dmblynny
03-14-2007, 09:50 PM
I was referring to his days in New Orleans...


Way to get worked up over nothing.
Honey if you think this is worked up, then you ain't seen nothin' yet. Wait til the season actually starts. ;)


Here are SD's new uniforms. They're not bad, but they're not great.

I'm not a big fan of this.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/419705739_7a9fbe9a90_o.jpg

I'm a big fan of this.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/132/419705767_57a52bf610_o.jpg
I don't know why but I still don't enjoy seeing light blue as the color of an NFL football team's jersey. Dark blue, yes. Light blue, not. I dunno, just me. :o

dmbmuskie
03-14-2007, 09:56 PM
I don't know why but I still don't enjoy seeing light blue as the color of an NFL football team's jersey. Dark blue, yes. Light blue, not. I dunno, just me. :o

San Diego's are the only one I like. Carolina and the Titans aren't good at all. The Oilers was bad too.

thebigv
03-15-2007, 10:31 AM
I'm a big fan of poop orange/brown. Just a thought...

41ravens
03-15-2007, 11:45 AM
my brother, huge packer's fan, just told me that a randy moss for aaron rodgers trade is supposed to be announced later today. interesting.

dmbmuskie
03-19-2007, 12:57 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2804097

:lol

donnyw
03-19-2007, 01:04 PM
my brother, huge packer's fan, just told me that a randy moss for aaron rodgers trade is supposed to be announced later today. interesting.

What's the point of trading for Rodgers if the Raiders are going to draft Russell?

Other than just to dump a near-worthless Moss.

dmbmuskie
03-19-2007, 01:08 PM
What's the point of trading for Rodgers if the Raiders are going to draft Russell?

Other than just to dump a near-worthless Moss.

If they swapped Moss for Rodgers they'd be drafting CJ.

emu513
03-19-2007, 01:25 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2804097

:lol

Hahaha. Holy fuck that's hilarious.

dmbmuskie
03-19-2007, 03:10 PM
Hahaha. Holy fuck that's hilarious.

Levi Jones can never show his face in public ever again. I really wouldn't be surprised if this ends his stay in Cincy. He's yet another Bengal with off field trouble and there is supposed to be 0 tolerance there now, plus getting your ass beat by someone who was your teams biggest critic cannot sit well with your teammates.

emu513
03-19-2007, 06:16 PM
Levi Jones can never show his face in public ever again. I really wouldn't be surprised if this ends his stay in Cincy. He's yet another Bengal with off field trouble and there is supposed to be 0 tolerance there now, plus getting your ass beat by someone who was your teams biggest critic cannot sit well with your teammates.

Nah, I think Levi's alright. He didn't do the punching. That's an improvement in and of itself. He's been vocal about being a leader amongst the team and I actually think that taking some sort of a higher road by not throwing a punch should resonate throughout the team as an example. But then again, maybe Levi got knocked out with the one punch and didn't have the opportunity to fight back . . .

dmbmuskie
03-19-2007, 06:38 PM
Nah, I think Levi's alright. He didn't do the punching. That's an improvement in and of itself. He's been vocal about being a leader amongst the team and I actually think that taking some sort of a higher road by not throwing a punch should resonate throughout the team as an example. But then again, maybe Levi got knocked out with the one punch and didn't have the opportunity to fight back . . .

The rumor is he just got knocked the hell out by Porter after he ran his mouth.

I cannot believe there haven't been any charges filed against him, so maybe he is completely innocent. You would think he would have atleast picked up a disorderly conduct charge.

emu513
03-19-2007, 08:03 PM
The rumor is he just got knocked the hell out by Porter after he ran his mouth.

I cannot believe there haven't been any charges filed against him, so maybe he is completely innocent. You would think he would have atleast picked up a disorderly conduct charge.

Anonymous email to Profootballtalk is nothing more than a rumor, a really questionable rumor. That's the only account that I've read anything close to "kicked his ass". Sounds to me that Porter was the only one to get a punch in before security intervened and as the first, he's always going to be the one getting the charges filed against. Indeed, no charges for Levi is very telling.

Anyway, there will be a police report out soon enough and there should be a video from Casino security that hits the internet shortly thereafter. Too bad, Joey doesn't still play for the Steelers. That would have been fun.

tedies
03-19-2007, 08:38 PM
The rumor is he just got knocked the hell out by Porter after he ran his mouth.

I cannot believe there haven't been any charges filed against him, so maybe he is completely innocent. You would think he would have atleast picked up a disorderly conduct charge.
He actually did get charged with something. assualt and battery I believe. Probably trying to get another Bengal in trouble, too bad Levi wipes his ass w/Porter EVERY time we play the steelers so I'm sure he could have beat the shit out of him. Its a good thing Big levi is too good to sucker punch someone and actually stay out of trouble. God I hope they throw Porter's ass in prison. What a piece of shit.


By KEN RITTER - Associated Press Writer
LAS VEGAS(AP) Miami Dolphins linebacker Joey Porter was accused of punching Cincinnati Bengals offensive lineman Levi Jones after police said the players exchanged trash talk at a casino blackjack table.
Porter was issued a summons on a misdemeanor battery charge after the Sunday altercation that began inside the Palms hotel-casino, Las Vegas police Officer Martin Wright said.
"They went outside. In the valet area, one struck the other, causing a small laceration above the eye," Wright said Monday, calling the injury minor.
Porter could face up to a year in jail and up to a $1,000 fine, Wright said, but no court date was immediately available.
Porter, 6-foot-3 and 250 pounds, left the Pittsburgh Steelers after eight years and signed a five-year, $32 million deal with the Dolphins earlier this month. Jones, 6-5 and 307 pounds, missed much of last season with a knee injury.
"It seems they go against each other on the field, and here they take it into the public," Wright said.
Wright cited an initial report from a Las Vegas police lieutenant who said the two players had a history of on-field trash talking with each other. The Steelers and Bengals both are in the AFC North, and play each other twice each season.
Dolphins coach Cam Cameron said Porter, a three-time Pro Bowl pick, told him about the incident Monday morning.
"We will monitor the situation and refrain from making any further comment until we gather more information," Cameron said in a statement issued by the Dolphins.
Wright said a written police investigation and report won't be complete until at least the end of the week.

tedies
03-19-2007, 08:41 PM
Levi Jones can never show his face in public ever again. I really wouldn't be surprised if this ends his stay in Cincy. He's yet another Bengal with off field trouble and there is supposed to be 0 tolerance there now, plus getting your ass beat by someone who was your teams biggest critic cannot sit well with your teammates.
I always love your idiotic football posts :lol Levi didn't even do anything wrong and you talk about him leaving cincy. Your piece of shit Porter is the one thats in trouble not Levi... he actually did the right thing in not kicking in Joey's ugly face

dmbmuskie
03-19-2007, 08:57 PM
I meant I'm surprised Jones didn't get charged with anything. If I punched you in the face in a casino, chances are you'd get charged with something too, unless you had absolutely did nothing to provoke it. That's just how things work.

Marvin supposedly has zero tolerance for off the field problems, but because Marvin is a full of shit when it comes to discipline we all know nothing will happen. The inmates run the asylum in Cincy. Getting in a fight at a casino with another football player is an off the field problem, so Marvin should man up and get rid of him.

I think the story is hillarious, but I'm glad Porter isn't our problem anymore.

tedies
03-19-2007, 09:45 PM
Oh yeah and Porter had 7 other guys to back him up and basically mugged Levi outside the casino. Took his fucking wallet and jewelry. Las Vegas is where levi lives and Porter's ghetto ass probably tracked him down and started shit. 0 class

dmbmuskie
03-19-2007, 10:17 PM
Oh yeah and Porter had 7 other guys to back him up and basically mugged Levi outside the casino. Took his fucking wallet and jewelry. Las Vegas is where levi lives and Porter's ghetto ass probably tracked him down and started shit. 0 class


Congrats now you sound like a racist.

dmbmuskie
03-19-2007, 10:20 PM
"Porter, who had half a sack in the Steelers’ last five games against the Bengals, has had many on-field words with Jones, the man that blocked him on many of those plays."

That's excellent reporting on the Bengals website. They manage to drag the Steelers into this while insulting Porter's skills as well. A truly classy bunch in charge of the organization.

emu513
03-19-2007, 10:42 PM
And tedies successfully perpetuates the stereotype that Bengals fans cannot talk football in a rational manner . . .

dmbmuskie
03-19-2007, 11:03 PM
And tedies successfully perpetuates the stereotype that Bengals fans cannot talk football in a rational manner . . .

:lol

tedies
03-19-2007, 11:08 PM
And tedies successfully perpetuates the stereotype that Bengals fans cannot talk football in a rational manner . . .
:lol really? since we were actually talking about football

dmbmuskie
03-21-2007, 02:03 PM
The Falcons are sending Schaub ot the Texans for a 2nd rounder. I like the move on both sides. Vick doesn't have to look over his shoulder now, and Texans addressed a need.

twosteppinpun
03-26-2007, 04:24 PM
NFL Network says that the opening MNF games will be
Balt v. Cincy
San Fran v. Arizona

Man, I hate the offseason.
33 days until the draft!

SmoothD41
03-26-2007, 04:44 PM
Saints @ Colts, opening night (Thursday)

should be a good one.

Giants @ Cowboys sunday night

dmbmuskie
03-26-2007, 04:47 PM
The monday night games leave a lot to be desired.

GoLdpHiShDMB
03-26-2007, 05:08 PM
It'll be fun to watch the G-men and Cowboys battle for 2nd place in the NFC East.

Of course behind none other than the Philadelphia Eagles

:multi

Trippin4136
03-26-2007, 05:10 PM
I'll be realistic. With no Tiki, Strahan holding out, and a collection of garbage on the D, the Giants could suck BIG time next year.

GoLdpHiShDMB
03-26-2007, 05:11 PM
That's a shitty organization. It's ashame.

dmbmuskie
03-26-2007, 05:12 PM
I'll be realistic. With no Tiki, Strahan holding out, and a collection of garbage on the D, the Giants could suck BIG time next year.

The rest of the division is really bad too. The NFC is just terrible on paper.

GoLdpHiShDMB
03-26-2007, 05:15 PM
The rest of the division is really bad too. The NFC is just terrible on paper.What's wrong with the Eagles and Cowboys?

Edit: Your division is worse.

dmbmuskie
03-26-2007, 05:38 PM
What's wrong with the Eagles and Cowboys?

Edit: Your division is worse.

The Eagles are going to have to rely on Jay Feely.

The Cowboys are coached by a proven loser.

Any team in the AFC North would win the NFC East.

GoLdpHiShDMB
03-26-2007, 05:41 PM
The Eagles are going to have to rely on Jay Feely.

The Cowboys are coached by a proven loser.

Any team in the AFC North would win the NFC East.First of all, Mcnabb will be ready for the 2007 season and our back ups name is A.J. Feeley. I'm not a fan of Dallas but I'd rather have Tony Romo passing to Owens and Glenn than Ben Roethlisberger to Hines Ward and....?

You have the Browns in your division. [that's laughable]:lol

dmbmuskie
03-26-2007, 06:01 PM
First of all, Mcnabb will be ready for the 2007 season and our back ups name is A.J. Feeley. I'm not a fan of Dallas but I'd rather have Tony Romo passing to Owens and Glenn than Ben Roethlisberger to Hines Ward and....?

You have the Browns in your division. [that's laughable]:lol

Forgive me for not being able to spell the name of a back up.

Just because you can play doesn't mean you are ready to. You don't have to look any further than Culpepper and Palmer to see that.

Romo has played less than a full season, and Owens is a ticking time bomb. I have no faith in them.

Cleveland has been a good offensive line away from being legit, and they appear to have that now. I think they could be a real sleeper this year, if they draft well.

GoLdpHiShDMB
03-26-2007, 07:12 PM
I'll stop, you don't know every team in the NFL as well as you do your own division.

GoLdpHiShDMB
03-26-2007, 07:55 PM
Possible Eagles trade for Takeo Spikes:multi

GoLdpHiShDMB
03-26-2007, 09:03 PM
Eagles traded DT Darwin Walker and a Conditional 2008 draft pick for LB Takeo Spikers and back-up QB Holcomb from the Bills

:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce

dmbmuskie
03-26-2007, 10:18 PM
30 year old linebackers aren't anything to get excited about.

GoLdpHiShDMB
03-26-2007, 10:19 PM
30 year old linebackers aren't anything to get excited about.They are when you get him for nothing pretty much.

dmbmuskie
03-26-2007, 10:22 PM
They are when you get him for nothing pretty much.

It basically guarantees that the Bills will take Willis in the draft.

It's definitely not something to get excited about for either side.

dmblynny
03-26-2007, 11:43 PM
Spikes is a good LB and that's a position we really needed improvement on. The whole defense needs stronger players and I'm really happy we finally got someone who has proven his worth.:bounce

GoLdpHiShDMB
03-27-2007, 12:21 AM
Yayy Jolynn. I'm excited as hell. Just to find out that the Eagles front office is trying to actually help the linebacker core finally....

I wish Darwin Walker luck in the future!!

dmblynny
03-27-2007, 12:25 AM
Yayy Jolynn. I'm excited as hell. Just to find out that the Eagles front office is trying to actually help the linebacker core finally....

I wish Darwin Walker luck in the future!!

Exactly... they recognize the problem and they're doing what they can to fix it. THANK GOD!!!

DAMN I miss football... I wish Mr. Walker all the best, too... he'll do good at his new home!!! I'm glad this wasn't a bitter leave.:p

Tiduwho
03-27-2007, 01:04 AM
Lance Briggs and the Bears 31st pick, for the Redskins 6th overall pick in the '07 draft?

I'd take it. He's turning into a cancer.

dmbmuskie
03-27-2007, 11:30 AM
Lance Briggs and the Bears 31st pick, for the Redskins 6th overall pick in the '07 draft?

I'd take it. He's turning into a cancer.

I don't think Briggs is worth that much, but I can see the Redskins making the move.

Could the Bears be trying to make a run at CJ?

emu513
03-27-2007, 03:20 PM
http://fox19.com/Global/story.asp?S=6285901


hahahahhahahhahahaha:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol


I can't even be upset anymore. This is just humorous.

dmbmuskie
03-27-2007, 03:26 PM
http://fox19.com/Global/story.asp?S=6285901


hahahahhahahhahahaha:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol


I can't even be upset anymore. This is just humorous.

Atleast there weren't underage girls in his car.

I was talking to a WVU booster the other day, and he was telling me that if Morgantown was a bigger place the stories of what Pacman and Henry did while they were together would have shocked everyone.

RJ2kWJ
03-27-2007, 03:35 PM
I don't think Briggs is worth that much, but I can see the Redskins making the move.

Could the Bears be trying to make a run at CJ?

I swear if my Skins make this move Ill shit. I really want Branch with that 6th pick.

I wouldnt put it past the Redskins front office though. :rolleyes

dmbmuskie
03-27-2007, 03:51 PM
I swear if my Skins make this move Ill shit. I really want Branch with that 6th pick.

I wouldnt put it past the Redskins front office though. :rolleyes

I think it would be a good move if they could trade the pick for draft picks. The Redskins need cheap young guys who can make an impact, rather than more hired guns.

RJ2kWJ
03-27-2007, 04:02 PM
I think it would be a good move if they could trade the pick for draft picks. The Redskins need cheap young guys who can make an impact, rather than more hired guns.

Oh believe me I know... I just think the way the trade is rumored right now is garbage.

dmbmuskie
03-27-2007, 04:04 PM
Oh believe me I know... I just think the way the trade is rumored right now is garbage.

I think it'll probably happen.

I really think Chicago is going to go after Johnson, and if that fails they'll trade down and pick up Grubbs and a LB.

FunkyTeaParty
03-27-2007, 04:17 PM
The Skins failed trying to cram a Cover 2 safety into their defense so they might as well blow more money trying to cram a Cover 2 LB into their defense.

emu513
03-27-2007, 04:59 PM
Atleast there weren't underage girls in his car.

I was talking to a WVU booster the other day, and he was telling me that if Morgantown was a bigger place the stories of what Pacman and Henry did while they were together would have shocked everyone.

Henry's problem does not have roots in institution. WVU, the Bengals, they can't be held accountable for his actions anymore. Although, they should have dealt with him differently. Hopefully the Bengals take the right stand now. It's clear that he's a complete nutcase.

Such a shame too. He could be All-Pro.

Tiduwho
03-27-2007, 06:18 PM
I don't think Briggs is worth that much, but I can see the Redskins making the move.

Could the Bears be trying to make a run at CJ?

Calvin Johnson? He'd be long gone by #6. He still has a chance to go #1. Ted Ginn Jr. would be a distinct possibility though, but I mean we already have the best kick returner in the league...but then I guess that would keep his mind on receiving matters fully.

dmbisgod
03-27-2007, 06:19 PM
I'm going throw in my 2 cents into this thread.


SEAHAWK NATION!!!

THE 12TH MAN!

Tiduwho
03-27-2007, 06:50 PM
Why the hell is Drew Rosenhaus on ESPN as an NFL Draft analyst? I mean seriously, the guy is so biased it's not even funny and they have him on there like he's Mel Kiper Jr!

dmbmuskie
03-27-2007, 07:11 PM
Calvin Johnson? He'd be long gone by #6. He still has a chance to go #1. Ted Ginn Jr. would be a distinct possibility though, but I mean we already have the best kick returner in the league...but then I guess that would keep his mind on receiving matters fully.

If I had to guess I'd say Johnson would go at 4, which could be had for the 6th pick, the Jets second rounder, and something on the second day next year.

If the Bucs are absolutely sold on him, then the 6th pick is where the bidding war for Quinn takes place. If he really won't play for the Bears, then I think it's a win win.

dmblynny
04-03-2007, 01:10 AM
Why the hell is Drew Rosenhaus on ESPN as an NFL Draft analyst? I mean seriously, the guy is so biased it's not even funny and they have him on there like he's Mel Kiper Jr!
Excuse me while I go puke on the floor. That man is a complete arrogant moron. I'm glad I haven't seen this...

Anyone see where the Briggs/'Skins trade is coming to a hault as NFL Network put it?? And I saw there are going to be new rules for getting arrested and whatnot?? These guys need to stay out of trouble and realize they're playing in the NFL!!! It's not rocket science, assholes!!! :twak



*Edit* YAY FOR PRESEASON SCHEDULES OUT!! August 13th is right after my vacation. :)

capoetc
04-05-2007, 09:05 PM
RIP Darryl Stingley. You were a great football player, and you made a difference for the many people whose lives you touched.

This is how we'll remember you:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=787cb21e9a91408c910e8637964ea862.obit_s tingley_patriots_football_bx102&prov=ap

dmblynny
04-07-2007, 08:09 PM
RIP Darryl Stingley. You were a great football player, and you made a difference for the many people whose lives you touched.

This is how we'll remember you:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=787cb21e9a91408c910e8637964ea862.obit_s tingley_patriots_football_bx102&prov=ap
:thumbsup Poor guy.



And on a somewhat brighter note ~ I finally got my E - A - G - L - E - S! The Movie DVD and it made me miss football so f'n much!!!!!!!!!!!! :lorraine


And puke over how we lost the '04 Super Bowl.

twosteppinpun
04-24-2007, 03:25 PM
Draft is in less than 4 days folks.

Tak_a_Tak
04-24-2007, 03:43 PM
I may be late on this, but I thought it was pretty funny.


http://www.bangcartoon.com/2007/pacman.htm

SmoothD41
04-29-2007, 10:47 AM
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10156954

Moss to the Pats....maybe he'll try now, fucking baby.

RJ2kWJ
04-29-2007, 12:57 PM
Holy. Shit.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/RJ2kWJ/75thPC_10.jpg

The Eagles 75th ann. uni's. :lol :lol

dmbmuskie
04-29-2007, 12:59 PM
The Steelers one is different too.

RJ2kWJ
04-29-2007, 01:06 PM
The Steelers one is different too.

Yea but it doesn;t make me throw up in my mouth like these.

The Steelers look great. :thumbsup

bradshaw06
04-29-2007, 01:07 PM
Holy. Shit.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/RJ2kWJ/75thPC_10.jpg

The Eagles 75th ann. uni's. :lol :lol

yea, the eagles uni's are a swing and a miss

GoLdpHiShDMB
04-29-2007, 04:57 PM
Hey quit makin fun of the birds lol.

New England owed Tom Brady some WR's and now he has them. Lucky bastard.

It'd be nice if the Eagles gave Mcnabb what he wanted.

dmblynny
04-29-2007, 08:14 PM
Hey quit makin fun of the birds lol.

New England owed Tom Brady some WR's and now he has them. Lucky bastard.

It'd be nice if the Eagles gave Mcnabb what he wanted.
We got Tony Hunt as a redemption of Kevin Kolb, I almost died when I saw it last night!!!!!!!! I'm not worried. Hopefully Kevin Curtis will perform well. I didn't see the rest of the draft picks from Rounds 6/7 tho so maybe we will pick up a WR.
I'm so excited for Tony Hunt!!!


And how bout Moss going to the Patriots?!?! I was in SHOCK when I saw that. They really picked up a bunch of bullets this year. :cool

dmblynny
04-29-2007, 08:14 PM
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10156954

Moss to the Pats....maybe he'll try now, fucking baby.
:lol

dmblynny
05-28-2007, 08:07 PM
I miss football so much.

dmbmuskie
05-28-2007, 09:26 PM
I miss football so much.

I do too. I was at the Indy 500 and all the Colts love made me sick.


:bounce I'll be at the HOF game in less than 2 months.

dmbhoosier21
05-28-2007, 11:08 PM
I do too. I was at the Indy 500 and all the


:bounce I'll be at the HOF game in less than 2 months.


:lol It wasn't that bad. I thought he did a great job waving that green flag.

dmbmuskie
05-29-2007, 10:33 AM
:lol It wasn't that bad. I thought he did a great job waving that green flag.

This has been a constant argument between my brother and I since we left the race track Sunday.

Did the blessing include the words "bless the drivers and Peyton" or "bless the drivers and people"?

We went out to dinner on Saturday night, and I would say half the people there had a Colts shirt on. I had already forgotten what it was like to be a fan of the defending champ.

Tiduwho
05-29-2007, 11:00 AM
A jetski. A jetski? Damn man...

dmbhoosier21
05-29-2007, 11:07 AM
This has been a constant argument between my brother and I since we left the race track Sunday.

Did the blessing include the words "bless the drivers and Peyton" or "bless the drivers and people"?

We went out to dinner on Saturday night, and I would say half the people there had a Colts shirt on. I had already forgotten what it was like to be a fan of the defending champ.

Even with all the beers I had that morning, I distinctly remember Peyton being blessed - so yes, we hoosiers blessed our QB. :lol

Yeah, the city is still excited about the SB - it's the first major championship for the city, it'll wear off when camp starts.....for most of us at least.

dmbhoosier21
05-29-2007, 11:07 AM
A jetski. A jetski? Damn man...

Yeah, unfortunate accident. :thumbsdow

Tiduwho
06-04-2007, 02:45 AM
Okay, just an off thought I had watching TV: what the eff was Tony Romo thinking??? Dumping Carrie Underwood, what an idiot!


http://media.justjared.com/headlines/2006/10/carrie-underwood-vanity-fair.jpg

Dancing Ants
06-04-2007, 03:13 AM
Okay, just an off thought I had watching TV: what the eff was Tony Romo thinking??? Dumping Carrie Underwood, what an idiot!


http://media.justjared.com/headlines/2006/10/carrie-underwood-vanity-fair.jpg

if he does well this year he'll be dating someone hotter anyway.