NFL Football 2006-2007

[phelps1540630]

he looked great? preseason...he threw 5 passes. lets reserve judgement for the regular season.

He was sharp though and he ran for a touchdown... It was like night and day as soon as Kyle Boller stepped into the game...

[thebigv]

That's not really a fair assessment. I could step in, 3 weeks after my ACL surgery, and have more success than Kyle Boller. The only positive thing you can say about him is that he's saying remarkably healthy; which is a bad thing for Ravens fans. McNair will be an improvement, but it's like a bandaid when you need stitches. it's just not the answer.

[phelps1540630]

That's not really a fair assessment. I could step in, 3 weeks after my ACL surgery, and have more success than Kyle Boller. The only positive thing you can say about him is that he's saying remarkably healthy; which is a bad thing for Ravens fans. McNair will be an improvement, but it's like a bandaid when you need stitches. it's just not the answer.

The Ravens have weapons for McNair as well... D. Mason is one of the most underrated in the league IMO and he has a great connection with McNair.. Clayton really started to come on towards the end of the year and he is a tremendous talent... Jamal Lewis is fully healthy again this year and had an offseason where he wasn't sitting in jail... I also think it will help that there is a 1000 yard rusher from last year sitting on the bench if Jamal Lewis screws up... The biggest question on the offense is the line and that is where McNair comes in... McNair is experienced enough to know when to get rid of the ball... He is also more mobile than Boller and isn't going to try and force something... Bmore already has a great defense, not as good as the past but still a defense that can cause turnovers and change the momentum of a game... If McNair stays healthy, I feel that the Ravens will make the playoffs...

[thebigv]

Jamal Lewis is the only offensive weapon I'll agree with you, there. He'll have a gigantic year, last year he just didn't have his feet back yet. Clayton came on at the end of last year at the same time Boller did, but you're not praising Boller? Mason isn't underrated by anyone that's seen what he's done. But, he's very quickly at the point where most WRs will see a decline. Any team in the AFC north has the potential to take a playoff spot and I'll still stick to my guns and say that any team in the AFC North has the potential to win the division. They're all extremely talented and have glaring holes that have been taped over for the short term. Now, if the Browns could just keep a god damn center on the roster.

[UNC41]

The Ravens have a pretty brutal schedule, which will make it tough on them.

[phelps1540630]

The Ravens have a pretty brutal schedule, which will make it tough on them.

They do have Carolina and San Diego in Baltimore though which is huge...

[UNC41]

Jamal Lewis is the only offensive weapon I'll agree with you, there. He'll have a gigantic year, last year he just didn't have his feet back yet. Clayton came on at the end of last year at the same time Boller did, but you're not praising Boller? Mason isn't underrated by anyone that's seen what he's done. But, he's very quickly at the point where most WRs will see a decline. Any team in the AFC north has the potential to take a playoff spot and I'll still stick to my guns and say that any team in the AFC North has the potential to win the division. They're all extremely talented and have glaring holes that have been taped over for the short term. Now, if the Browns could just keep a god damn center on the roster.

The Browns are a year away from competiting Ryan. I like the optimism, but they're a year away. I think there are very few teams in the league that could make the playoffs playing their schedule.

Pittsburgh (2), Cinci (2), Baltimore (2), Carolina, Denver, San Diego, Atlanta, Kansas City, Tampa Bay.

[thebigv]

I hate you and your fucking realism. Not looking at their schedule, if LeCharles Bentley isn't lost for the year, 3 time previous Rookie of the Week - Charlie Frye, has some major offensive weapons with Jurevicious, Braylon, and KWII. Not to mention the return of the first Browns 1000 yard rusher since 300BC. The defense has a phenomnal coach and a ton of young talent. Injuries have once again played a big part in shaping the defensive backfield, which is a very very good unit, and has been though of as a top 10 by many different magazines. Nothing short of a Super Bowl will earn the Browns any respect. So, I guess that evens out with me being an Irish fan.

[UNC41]

They do have Carolina and San Diego in Baltimore though which is huge...

I just looked at all the teams in the AFC North's schedules and Baltimore got the easiest one. After looking at them I'm starting to think only one team will make the playoffs, and I can't see the Ravens winning the division.

[phelps1540630]

I hate you and your fucking realism. Not looking at their schedule, if LeCharles Bentley isn't lost for the year, 3 time previous Rookie of the Week - Charlie Frye, has some major offensive weapons with Jurevicious, Braylon, and KWII. Not to mention the return of the first Browns 1000 yard rusher since 300BC. The defense has a phenomnal coach and a ton of young talent. Injuries have once again played a big part in shaping the defensive backfield, which is a very very good unit, and has been though of as a top 10 by many different magazines. Nothing short of a Super Bowl will earn the Browns any respect. So, I guess that evens out with me being an Irish fan.

I'm an irish fan as well....:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

[thebigv]

little over two weeks away until we get some real football!

[phelps1540630]

little over two weeks away until we get some real football!

I can't wait...

[tofixyou]

Bears

[HoldemHart]

does anyone know if anyone on ants is setting up a fantasy football league? sorry if this has already been asked.

[FunkyTeaParty]

So I was out drinking with Koren Robinson last night, did I miss anything?

[UNC41]

The Browns lose another center.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2551170

[thebigv]

Jesus Christ, this is just getting ugly. I should check my voicemail, maybe I got a call to suit up at Center.

[dmbmuskie]

The Browns have to be the most snake bitten franchise I have ever seen.

[phelps1540630]

So I was out drinking with Koren Robinson last night, did I miss anything?

Koren Robinson drinks????

[FunkyTeaParty]

....and drives.

[dmbmuskie]

Koren Robinson drinks????

He might have sealed his deal to Cincy with this latest screw up.

[Bartender84]

So glad we got rid of K-Rob

[phelps1540630]

So glad we got rid of K-Rob

Such a wasted talent...

[dmbmuskie]

I couldn't even fathom screwing up my life if I got paid millions to play a game. I'd like to see some sort of psychological study as to why these super talented guys fuck up so bad.

[phelps1540630]

I couldn't even fathom screwing up my life if I got paid millions to play a game. I'd like to see some sort of psychological study as to why these super talented guys fuck up so bad.

It is amazing how many players forget how lucky the are...

[ksu4dmb41]

:bump

[BotheDMBFan]

Da Bears are wining the whole fucking thing!

[Trippin4136]

so let me get this right....

The Raiders cut Kerry Collins who gets signed today by the Titans and they promptly sign Jeff George?!? :lol

[TwoStep2888]

Packers play tonight. :bounce:bounce:bounce

I really hope they play like they did last week vs. Atlanta.

[Franchize41]

so let me get this right....

The Raiders cut Kerry Collins who gets signed today by the Titans and they promptly sign Jeff George?!? :lol

:lol thats amazing... in other QB news Rob "Robosack" Johnson got cut by the Giants... Johnson still holds the NFL record for worst sack to passing attempt ratio all time :lol :lol :lol

[emu513]

Packers play tonight. :bounce:bounce:bounce

I really hope they play like they did last week vs. Atlanta.

God I hope Brett Favre has a great year this year. He deserves it. He's truly one of the all-time greats and deserves to go out better than how he is perceived by many people after last year.

[Trippin4136]

:lol thats amazing... in other QB news Rob "Robosack" Johnson got cut by the Giants... Johnson still holds the NFL record for worst sack to passing attempt ratio all time :lol :lol :lol

good...Lorenzen deserves to be the #2 this year and Rob Johnson has been an awful quarterback, forever minus 4 weeks with the Bills like 8 years ago.

[Franchize41]

I still hate Wade Phillips for starting him over Flutie...

[41ravens]

TO fined. let the countdown begin till he's kicked off the team. i'm starting to rethink all of my "benefit of the doubt" stuff i said when they signed him. once a douche, always a douche.

[Trippin4136]

there is nothing the Cowboys can do about Owens. He is an egomanic who believes he is entitled to all of his actions. The sincerety he showed in his welcoming press conference was a huge sham.

[Bartndrpleez]

I say we ship his egotistical ass over to Iraq. Maybe then he'll appreciate the shit he's given a little more. A$$hole.

[luke7]

The Packers look like total crap.

[clayj41]

The Packers look like total crap.

I know...:lorraine :BANG :lorraine

[thebigv]

Really crappy.

[thebigv]

AND Najeh Davenport trips up on the 40 yard line. I don't think the packers are going to be this horrible this season, but man...do they look bad.

[Tiduwho]

I just don't understand some of my deluded fellow Bears fans, still caught up in the Favre mystique. "Ahman Green is back healthy, and the Bears look terrible in the preseason so don't be surprised if the Packers are at the top at the end of the season." :BANG


Week 1


Bears 27
Packers 6


And that's if Mini Ditka is coaching.

[Bartender84]

What the hell is going on. Half of our starting offense has some sort of injury, and now one of our top defenders is out for the season. This fucking sucks.

[ncdude2k3]

the Panthers are the best team in the NFL.

[waywayNCSU]

the Panthers are the best team in the NFL.


If they stay healthy, they'll be very tuff to beat. Thats for damn sure.

[41ravens]

I just don't understand some of my deluded fellow Bears fans, still caught up in the Favre mystique. "Ahman Green is back healthy, and the Bears look terrible in the preseason so don't be surprised if the Packers are at the top at the end of the season." :BANG


Week 1


Bears 27
Packers 6


And that's if Mini Ditka is coaching.

i'll give you the win, but no way in hell is that offense putting up 27 points.

bears 10
packers 7

[dmbmuskie]

Jeff George? I still cannot believe that is true.

[boutrous11]

Jeff George? I still cannot believe that is true.

wait, they signed him as some sort of coach, right??

wait, that doesn't make sense either!

[Franchize41]

SI predictions:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/specials/preview/2006/scout.report/index.html

they must have been high when they chose the team to represent the AFC

[ProudestAnt]

The Dolphins are going to be no joke this year. Glad to see my Bills getting some love. Bout damn time...

[Tiduwho]

I'm sorry, you can pick the Phins to win the division over the Pats, but to the Super Bowl? Come on now.

I don't think it's as bad as ESPN picking the Vikes as Super Bowl Champs last year because "Getting rid of Randy Moss was an addition by subtraction", but man.


I think the Chiefs and Bucs should both be a bit higher. No Cardinal kool-aid drinkers at SI I see.

[Franchize41]

The Phins will be better, but they wont win the AFC :lol

I hate cut day in the NFL, even if its only the first cut

[seekupig]

I think the Chiefs should be a bit higher. .

:thumbsup they were 10-6 last year, and they have them projected at 8-8 now? their schedule looks easier on paper, and they didn't lose much. i don't get it.... :confused

[jimibadfish]

:thumbsup they were 10-6 last year, and they have them projected at 8-8 now? their schedule looks easier on paper, and they didn't lose much. i don't get it.... :confused

Not to mention the fact that they added one of the best cover corners in football.

[mike007]

football is gay.

[Tiduwho]

football is gay.

Takes one to know one.



Pwned, lol!!1

[mike007]

Takes one to know one.



Pwned, lol!!1

What are you gay, you like fondling the center's balls.

[cwsrule88]

the bears>all

[clayj41]

the bears>all

If you would've said "the bears defense" then I would've agreed with you. As it stands, I don't.

[seekupig]

the bears>all

:thumbsdow

[ncdude2k3]

4-0 undefeated pre-season...YOUR Carolina Panthers, the best team in the NFL..Now begins the enormously long 9 day wait until we get this shit started for good.

[dmbigeyedphish]

the bears>all

correction: Steve Smith>the bears

[dmbigeyedphish]

4-0 undefeated pre-season...YOUR Carolina Panthers, the best team in the NFL..Now begins the enormously long 9 day wait until we get this shit started for good.

I wear my jersey to every party. Even if there are two parties in a row.

[tedies]

4-0 undefeated pre-season...YOUR Carolina Panthers, the best team in the NFL..Now begins the enormously long 9 day wait until we get this shit started for good.

I am a huge huge bengals fan but i will say this... carolina looks real tough this year..

[Tiduwho]

Is SS healthy?


Got Delhomme, so hopefully he's 100% along with Meshawn.

[Tiduwho]

i'll give you the win, but no way in hell is that offense putting up 27 points.

bears 10
packers 7

So I guess your predicting both Grossman and Griese go down in practice this week?

[dmbmuskie]

4-0 undefeated pre-season...YOUR Carolina Panthers, the best team in the NFL..Now begins the enormously long 9 day wait until we get this shit started for good.

Last night's game was about unwatchable. I'm so glad the preseason is over.

[Tak_a_Tak]

Did anyone else see this? What a joke. I'm not sure what cross-over they were thinking about, 'cause I don't know anyone who really likes football, that really likes Pink.

NEW YORK (AP) — Pink, the Grammy Award-winning singer known for her single Get the Party Started, has recorded the opening music for NBC Sunday Night Football.
"We chose Pink as the signature voice because she is a tremendous talent with a crossover appeal that makes her relevant to all segments of our audience," said Fred Gaudelli, who will produce the Sunday night broadcasts for NBC.

Pink has created Waiting All Day for Sunday Night, set to Joan Jett's I Hate Myself for Loving You, with new lyrics, NBC said Wednesday.

"A football fan knows the anticipation of waiting all day for the big game. When you hear this song on Sunday nights, you'll know the big game is about to kick off," Gaudelli said in a statement.

[dmbmuskie]

:rolleyes Pink is a great choice.

[UNC41]

4-0 undefeated pre-season...YOUR Oakland Raiders, the best team in the NFL..Now begins the enormously long 9 day wait until we get this shit started for good.

Fixed your post. Go preseason!!!!

[thebigv]

You go from preseason directly to the postseason, right? I heard Carson Palmer already won the MVP because of his preseason performance.

[Bartndrpleez]

Did anyone else see this? What a joke. I'm not sure what cross-over they were thinking about, 'cause I don't know anyone who really likes football, that really likes Pink.

Hmmmmm...I thought I read that John Williams composed the new NBC Sunday Night Football music. Weird.

Academy Award-winning composer and music director John Williams, the Academy's most nominated living person with 45 nominations, and an 18-time Grammy Award-winner, has composed the new theme music for "NBC Sunday Night Football," and NBC's "Football Night in America" studio show, it was announced today by Dick Ebersol, Chairman, NBC Sports & Olympics and Executive Producer, "NBC Sunday Night Football."

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/pr.aspx?id=20060830nbc02

[Tak_a_Tak]

Hmmmmm...I thought I read that John Williams composed the new NBC Sunday Night Football music. Weird.

Academy Award-winning composer and music director John Williams, the Academy's most nominated living person with 45 nominations, and an 18-time Grammy Award-winner, has composed the new theme music for "NBC Sunday Night Football," and NBC's "Football Night in America" studio show, it was announced today by Dick Ebersol, Chairman, NBC Sports & Olympics and Executive Producer, "NBC Sunday Night Football."

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/pr.aspx?id=20060830nbc02


This artical did mention that as well, but I get the impression he'll be doing the 'background' music as they go to and come back from breaks. Where as Pink's song is going to be their version of "Are You Ready for Some Football" music used for MNF.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2006-08-31-pink-nbc-football_x.htm

[Bartndrpleez]

This artical did mention that as well, but I get the impression he'll be doing the 'background' music as they go to and come back from breaks. Where as Pink's song is going to be their version of "Are You Ready for Some Football" music used for MNF.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2006-08-31-pink-nbc-football_x.htm

Gotcha. That makes sense, but then again, it doesn't. Pink? What the hell? Where are they getting their music advice? The only possible worse choice for football would have been Ashlee Simpson.

[Tak_a_Tak]

Gotcha. That makes sense, but then again, it doesn't. Pink? What the hell? Where are they getting their music advice? The only possible worse choice for football would have been Ashlee Simpson.

Ya, I have no idea. I'm mean really, I don't see any "cross-marketing" or "mass-marketing" brain storms on this one. It's almost as bad as a few years ago when MNF had a new group/singer doing 'Are You Ready for Some Football' each week. That was a really bad idea.

[ncdude2k3]

steve smith is pretty much over his hamstring injury..he had to have surgery to get an ingrown toenail removed, i think thats the main reason he missed the last preseason game...im glad he didnt play personally..but hes healthy for week 1.

[Bartndrpleez]

Charlie Rogers 2nd pick overall back in '03...PINK SLIP!

Jeff George...HIT THE ROAD!

Najeh Davenport...PACK YOUR BAGS!

Today was cut day and a lot of seemingly "good" players got the axe. Here's the round-up via ESPN.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2570128

[budgrove]

denver is winning it all this year!!!

[Tak_a_Tak]

Jeff George...HIT THE ROAD!



Damnit!! And I was going out to Finish Line today to pick up a new jersey too.

:lorraine

[trippinchad]

football is gay.

:lol you know this is a chick, or a fag

[Pig17]

Charlie Rogers 2nd pick overall back in '03...PINK SLIP!

Jeff George...HIT THE ROAD!

Najeh Davenport...PACK YOUR BAGS!

Today was cut day and a lot of seemingly "good" players got the axe. Here's the round-up via ESPN.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2570128

That honestly was a suprise to me. Look at his stats: he was good when he had the opportunity. Looks like the E-A-G-L-E-S need to go pick him up as a 3rd down back! :D :D :D :D :D :D:multi :multi

[Pig17]

Wow, whatever happened to Peter Warrick? The man was a top 5 pick and never went anywhere. 18 touchdowns in 6 years: that warrents a draft day bust. :thumbsdow :thumbsdow

[Pig17]

Speaking of busts, I have 2 words for everyone: Ron Dayne.

[dmbmuskie]

That honestly was a suprise to me. Look at his stats: he was good when he had the opportunity. Looks like the E-A-G-L-E-S need to go pick him up as a 3rd down back! :D :D :D :D :D :D:multi :multi

I've got to imagine there is a lot of teams interested in him today.

[Tiduwho]

Speaking of busts, I have 2 words for everyone: Ron Dayne.


Wisconsin holla!

[luke7]

The Dolphins defense always kills them in games like tonights.

[UNC41]

If the defense can learn to limit the big plays this year they'll be fine. That was a horrible call in not letting Saban challenge whether or not Miller was out of bounds.

[CUTiger41]

It's good to know the Steelers are still using the refs to win games.

[luke7]

I've been a Dolphins fan for almost 20 years. The thing I've learned over the years is never get your hopes up. The season is early but this team is not going to do as well as many predicted.

[FalloutBoyRocks]

E-a-g-l-e-s

Eagles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[UNC41]

Well, Culpepper has nowhere to go but up. That fourth quarter was frustrating as hell.

[SmoothD41]

how is Daunte Culpepper in the NFL? He is atrocious.

[RJ2kWJ]

E-a-g-l-e-s

Eagles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well... good luck on being the worst team in the division. The boys, Skins, and G-men are all way too rugged for the eagles.

[Bartndrpleez]

how is Daunte Culpepper in the NFL? He is atrocious.

:thumbsdow:thumbsdow:thumbsdow He looked great for the first 45 minutes of the game. I don't think he made more than maybe 1 or 2 bad decisions until the wheels came off in the 4th quarter. Let's just say I feel much better with him at the helm rather than Jay Fiedler, Damon Huard, or Gus Frerotte. Being a lifelong Fins fan, I'm much more optimistic about this season than any in a long time. We were in it up until 8-9 minutes into the 4th quarter. Pitt's D is nasty though. Good game. Congrats to Pitt.

[Dancing Ants]

how is Daunte Culpepper in the NFL? He is atrocious.

at one point, he was a very good, solid QB. he may still have some steam in him.

[RJ2kWJ]

:thumbsdow:thumbsdow:thumbsdow He looked great for the first 45 minutes of the game. I don't think he made more than maybe 1 or 2 bad decisions until the wheels came off in the 4th quarter. Let's just say I feel much better with him at the helm rather than Jay Fiedler, Damon Huard, or Gus Frerotte. Being a lifelong Fins fan, I'm much more optimistic about this season than any in a long time. We were in it up until 8-9 minutes into the 4th quarter. Pitt's D is nasty though. Good game. Congrats to Pitt.

If I was a dolphins fan... I would be REAL optomistic about this season. Daunte to Chris. Holy god. I think Chris is hands down up there with the best deep threats in the game with TO, Randy, and Chad. Chris is SO dirty.

[seekupig]

It's good to know the Steelers are still using the refs to win games.

i'm not a Steelers fan by any stretch of the imagination, but if you want to blame anyone for the Dolphins loss, blame Culpepper. he's got weapons and potential in that offense, but he's got to stop playing scared if they're going to have a chance...

[Tiduwho]

Lmao @ all the Dolphins hype. Crap-pulper is picking up right where he left off, throwing horrible game changing (in this case ruining) interceptions. Booker was out so Daunte couldn't exploit the defense due to a lack of outstanding receivers to bail him out. Yeah, I love giving him that tag. Eat it and love it.

[SmoothD41]

Lmao @ all the Dolphins hype. Crap-pulper is picking up right where he left off, throwing horrible game changing (in this case ruining) interceptions. Booker was out so Daunte couldn't exploit the defense due to a lack of outstanding receivers to bail him out. Yeah, I love giving him that tag. Eat it and love it.

:thumbsup

he underthrew several balls last night too. I remember on the first 3rd down of the game, he wasn't even being pressured, but he hit ronnie brown with a 2 yard dump pass when they needed 10 yards. Just poor decisions, and his interceptions were really, really bad.

[UNC41]

i'm not a Steelers fan by any stretch of the imagination, but if you want to blame anyone for the Dolphins loss, blame Culpepper. he's got weapons and potential in that offense, but he's got to stop playing scared if they're going to have a chance...

Miami's defense deserves more blame than Culpepper. If they don't learn how to stop the big play it could be a long season.

[Rob]

Dolphins fans got an inflated sense of their team thanks to beating the Pats last year. Or, some of the Pats, anyway. They thought so little of the Dolphins they allowed an old fogie to attempt a drop kick rather than going for a tie.

Hopefully when the losses start to pile up the Dolphins fans will be knocked down a peg or two where they belong. Culpepper isn't a savior, he's a curse, and the Dolphins aren't a playoff team, they're another mediocre .500 franchise.

[UNC41]

If you think the Pats win is why Dolphins fans are optmistic about this season you couldn't be more wrong.

[Rob]

What other reason do they have? Dante Culpepper? The man's a fraud. Ricky Williams? Oops. A strong 6-game run to end last year against teams that worked out to have a 36-60 record (26-54 without the Patriots, who mailed in the last game)?

[UNC41]

1. Nick Saban. Just the attitude around the team is completely different, and better, with Saban running things than Wanny. It's night and day. You live in the Northeast, so I'm sure you are familiar with the huge impact a coach can make on a NFL team.

2. Culpepper playing in a system very similar to when he was without question the third best QB in the NFL during the 2003 and 2004 seasons. Couple this with him playing along side pretty much the closest thing in the NFL to Randy Moss and it's reason to feel good about Culpepper.

3. Not having to play the toughest schedule in the league like the past two years.

4. A six-game winning streak to end last season. The win over the Pats during that streak is not why fans are optmistic. Six games is six games in the NFL, regardless of who it's against, and when it turns around a 3-7 team fans are going to get excited. You should expect that.

Does that work for you? And Ricky Williams? I'm far more excited that he's not with the team so Ronnie can be turned into a feature back, so you really didn't have say whoops there. Because he is a reason.

[gravedigger13]

At the end of the day, just be happy you aren't a Lions fan.

[Bartndrpleez]

Too many Dolphin haters on here. Its cool though, I don't know why you'd be mean to us, we haven't done shit in like what? 30 years? :lol

I'm glad DaUnte (there's a U in there folks) is our QB and its going to take some time to readjust. His play will improve and he'll start hitting his targets, you can count on that. Super Bowl this season for the Fins? Doubtful. But you bet your ass they have a good shot at the playoffs.

As long as we get a "legit" win against the Pats and Jets this year I'll be happy. We played very well last night against the defending champs and only a few MAJOR mistakes led to our demise. Saban will correct that because he is a badass (almost Jack Bauer style :twenty4).

Time to get ready for the BILLS next Sunday! Another old rival! BRING IT ON BUFFALO!!!

[Bartender84]

I saw the Dolphin's receivers drop a lot of passes last night. Daunte did well for it being his first game on a new team.

[FunkyTeaParty]

I saw the Steeler DBs drop a couple too.

[JC10380]

I saw the Dolphin's receivers drop a lot of passes last night. Daunte did well for it being his first game on a new team.


Daunte Culpepper is overrated. He has never done anything without Randy Moss, and hell, I could throw to Randy Moss.

[luke7]

The Dallas Cowboys still not ready for primetime. Drew Bledsoe is so washed up.

[TwoStep2888]

Damn. Not a good day to be a Packer fan.

[luke7]

Damn. Not a good day to be a Packer fan.

wonder if Brett will break Dan Marino's career TD record this year ? Not off to a good start.

[luke7]

A team that should be fun to watch this year is Arizona. They will score a ton of points this year, but will also give up a ton.

[Tiduwho]

i'll give you the win, but no way in hell is that offense putting up 27 points.

bears 10
packers 7

You were saying?



Man, I was way too generous.

[UNC41]

Damn. Not a good day to be a Packer fan.

I didn't know there were good days to be a Packer fan.

[boobookittyfuk]

good lord, what in the HELL is brett favre still doing in an nfl uniform?

seriously, is there anyone out there that doesn't believe he's gonna lose every last shread of coolness and dignity he's had by staying out there this season. take a cue from jerry seinfeld, brett :shrug you're gonna wind up embarrassing yourself.

[CrashDMB237]

Strong comeback game for Pennington today. As a Jet fan, thats a big relief. He took a few licks and bounced right back up. His arm looked better today than it did any other time pre-injury. He threw for 319 yards today, 2 TDs and no picks. 158 of those yards came from connecting with his old buddy Coles. If it weren't for our dickless kicker Mike Nugent, we would have won by 14.

[TwoStep2888]

I didn't know there were good days to be a Packer fan.

Zing.

[TwoStep2888]

wonder if Brett will break Dan Marino's career TD record this year ? Not off to a good start.

Doubt it. He might get close if he can turn things around, but he's an old QB with only one decent WR.

[luke7]

All of a sudden every game is The Super Bowl with the National Anthem and all being televised.

[dmbmuskie]

All of a sudden every game is The Super Bowl with the National Anthem and all being televised.

It's because of tommorrow I believe.

[dmbmuskie]

I saw the Dolphin's receivers drop a lot of passes last night. Daunte did well for it being his first game on a new team.

I was there and Daunte was absolutely brutal to watch. Even the nice throws he made seem a little less special after finally watching the game on TV because Ty Carter fell on about every one of them.

[DMBfan41]

glad that game was over.

some nice bullshit calls tonight as per usual. Nice to see no one has done anything about horrible officiating.

But glad its over, my favorite team and the team i always cheer for. Exciting game to watch, but the way I wanted to start the season

[thehoss]

tim carter got fucked. that was the game. fuck this.

[DMBfan41]

pretty much, carter with the ghost penalty. Wasn't happy with the chuck that Eli threw up there after that play though

[CrashDMB237]

The Giants run the 2-minute drill worse than my old high school. That was a sad display of football. That being said, the ghost flag on Carter really hurt but Eli did throw a shitty ball on that next play. Oh well, at least one New York team won.

[DMBfan41]

they were the most successful team in the 2 minute drill last season......yeeah

[CrashDMB237]

they were the most successful team in the 2 minute drill last season......yeeah

That really helped them tonight, didn't it?

[DMBfan41]

That really helped them tonight, didn't it?

first week, sloppy. what can you do. And ghost penalties hurt

[CrashDMB237]

first week, sloppy. what can you do. And ghost penalties hurt

Ghost penalties had nothing to do with Eli not spiking, Shockey running back INbounds after a catch on the sideline, Toomer falling INbounds while he could have very easily fallen out and a very legit penalty that cost them 10 seconds.

I'm not negating the fact that the ghost penalty killed the game for the Giants, but that was a sorry display of football in that last drive.

[DMBfan41]

not blaming just the ghost penalty on Carter. The last drive was sloppy. The defense missed some opportunities.

It was a loss, BUT, that ghost penalty did really hurt

[SmoothD41]

Ghost penalties had nothing to do with Eli not spiking, Shockey running back INbounds after a catch on the sideline, Toomer falling INbounds while he could have very easily fallen out and a very legit penalty that cost them 10 seconds.

I'm not negating the fact that the ghost penalty killed the game for the Giants, but that was a sorry display of football in that last drive.

well said

the Giants have nobody to blame but themselves for the game tonight. Numerous stupid penalties (Plax), horrible decisions and execution on the last drive (like you mentioned), dropping three interceptions, etc. One questionable call did not cost the Giants the game.

[emu513]

I like Brandon Jacobs. I'll probably follow him the rest of the year. The dude is huuuuge and has a fire in him.

Anyone think Chad Pennington will return to form this year? Looked pretty good today . . .

. . . gotta root for the MAC QB's. They'll always have a soft spot in my heart.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Strong comeback game for Pennington today. As a Jet fan, thats a big relief. He took a few licks and bounced right back up. His arm looked better today than it did any other time pre-injury. He threw for 319 yards today, 2 TDs and no picks. 158 of those yards came from connecting with his old buddy Coles. If it weren't for our dickless kicker Mike Nugent, we would have won by 14.

Yeah, he looked good, but he was also facing Tennesee. Anyone could torch them for 300 yards.

[dmbisgod]

sea hawak nation.

[tedies]

sea hawak nation.

that was the highest scoring game ever... got the win all that matters

[TwoStep2888]

Who watched the Manning Bowl? I skipped it. Any good?

[BotheDMBFan]

This season has been great so far.

Bears look prime.
Rams D looks absolutly amazing.
Kurt Warner looks great.


:D

[TwoStep2888]

Denver looked awful today. Rams beat them without scoring a TD. Of course, they scored six FGs, but still, the Broncos looked absolutely pathetic.

[BotheDMBFan]

That's because the Rams MADE THEM look pathetic.

[Bartender84]

It's a fact of life that the Seahawks always suck on the first week. Hell, last year they fumbled the opening kickoff, Alexander did nothing the second half, Hass threw a few interceptions and let the Jags come back from a big deficit. I'm just relieved we actually won the first game this year.

[dmbmuskie]

Why is it that people are always looking for reasons to tear the top teams in the league down for their accomplishments? It seems every week the Steelers, Pats, Colts, etc win in a controversial fashion, which is then blown out of proportion.

I think the biggest story out of yesterday was the Falcons win. I know it's only one game, but the Panthers are the Super Bowl favorite from the NFC.

[CrashDMB237]

Yeah, he looked good, but he was also facing Tennesee. Anyone could torch them for 300 yards.

A big part of a successful comeback is the player's confidence. This was a big confidence booster. Chad took some licks and felt no pain. He threw some bombs. It doesn't matter who you're playing, both of those are good signs.

[41ravens]

You were saying?



Man, I was way too generous.

i stand corrected. granted, it was against the packers' secondary, but grossman didn't look too bad. if he stays healthy, they should be alright. they'll still manage to choke in the playoffs, though. ;)

[Tiduwho]

Don't worry, Detroit was just fired up with the home opener and new coaching staff and all. Their defense won't be able to hold the high flying Bears next week. Yes, lol for saying that, but I'm hoping for another shutout and 20 points on the scoreboard. The Lions almost always start off good. And our D didn't play as good as they should have either, we gave up way too many yards on the ground.

[UNC41]

Don't worry, Detroit was just fired up with the home opener and new coaching staff and all. Their defense won't be able to hold the high flying Bears next week. Yes, lol for saying that, but I'm hoping for another shutout and 20 points on the scoreboard. The Lions almost always start off good. And our D didn't play as good as they should have either, we gave up way too many yards on the ground.

Oxymoron.

[Tiduwho]

Oxymoron.


Exaggerrated for emphasis due to all the offseason matter-of-factly chatter that the Bears still had the worst offense in the league, Grossman was a bust (but obviously I still have to reserve his brittleness until he takes a season of hits), and their offense was bad because of everything besides what the real problem was: a 4th round rookie starting qb that excercised maybe a quarter of the playbook.

[UNC41]

Exaggerrated for emphasis due to all the offseason matter-of-factly chatter that the Bears still had the worst offense in the league, Grossman was a bust (but obviously I still have to reserve his brittleness until he takes a season of hits), and their offense was bad because of everything besides what the real problem was: a 4th round rookie starting qb that excercised maybe a quarter of the playbook.

Bears fans think this, but others wonder how you can anoint someone with a 72.3 career quarterback rating as the team's savior. It was completely premature to do that in the preseason, and still is in my opinion right now. He played well yesterday, but I take everything in Week 1 with a grain of salt.

[dmb-RedRocks_05]

denver is winning it all this year!!!

Agreed.

[Tiduwho]

Bears fans think this, but others wonder how you can anoint someone with a 72.3 career quarterback rating as the team's savior. It was completely premature to do that in the preseason, and still is in my opinion right now. He played well yesterday, but I take everything in Week 1 with a grain of salt.



And if he fails, they have their plan B in Griese. I just don't understand how people still think it is the same Kyle Orton offense of last year, despite the upgrade of Grossman/Griese at the QB position. I'm not saying the Bears offense is great, or even good. Average is all they need to be. Yet to some people, even "average" was/is an impossibility this year.

[Bartender84]

I just read that we picked up Deion Branch. This is huge.

[Tiduwho]

Drunky Drunk Robinson just signed with the Packers, lol.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2583583

[UNC41]

And if he fails, they have their plan B in Griese. I just don't understand how people still think it is the same Kyle Orton offense of last year, despite the upgrade of Grossman/Griese at the QB position. I'm not saying the Bears offense is great, or even good. Average is all they need to be. Yet to some people, even "average" was/is an impossibility this year.

Griese + Orton = disaster in the locker room. I'd lay 10-1 odds that those two have their own keg between their lockers. :D

Honestly, I think Chicago has three below average quarterbacks on their roster right now. I also think the defense will be very good this year, but asking them to do what they did last year might be a little much because that D was insane.

[luke7]

The new Monday Night Football crew is so boring. I think the second crew that's on later tonight is better with Ron Jaworski, Dick Vermeil and Brad Nessler. Jaworski knows football, as well as Vermeil who was great doing college games and Nessler is way better than Mike Tirico.

[BotheDMBFan]

Tony K. is God.


HOwever, when you have to try to get jokes in against a retard(Thiesman) and Mr. Emotionless(Tirico) of course it'll be a disaster.

[Lcsulla]

The Raiders are just fucking pathetic. Not even sure why I bother. What a waste of my time. They can't run, they have no pass protection whatsoever, their secondary is getting shredded, and they can't stop the run.

[BotheDMBFan]

Because it's the NFL, and the MLB is terrible.

[seekupig]

looks like Trent Green may only miss a couple of games. Huard didn't look bad, but it's hard to judge a QB in garbage time against a prevent defense. KC has a bye in week 3, so hopefully that'll be enough time to get Green back....

[dmbisgod]

that was the highest scoring game ever... got the win all that matters
lol.
ya seahawks won.
all that matters.

[Tiduwho]

Oakland is the worst team in the league, it's official. Worse than Green Bay.


20 total passing yards. That sums it up. You have Randy f'ing Moss and you can only gain 20 total yards of passing? WOW. Bring back Jeff George.

[jordonh]

I would defenitely bring Jeff George back...just throw it up to Randy for gods sake

[UglyNakedGuy]

Don't worry, Detroit was just fired up with the home opener and new coaching staff and all. Their defense won't be able to hold the high flying Bears next week. Yes, lol for saying that, but I'm hoping for another shutout and 20 points on the scoreboard. The Lions almost always start off good. And our D didn't play as good as they should have either, we gave up way too many yards on the ground.

They were 2-3 in their first five last year.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Tony K. is God.


HOwever, when you have to try to get jokes in against a retard(Thiesman) and Mr. Emotionless(Tirico) of course it'll be a disaster.

Tony K is a moron. All he kept doing was commenting on his fucking fantasy team that no one gives a damn about. He doesn't belong on MNF and neither does Thiesman. This new crew for MNF sucks.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Because it's the NFL, and the MLB is terrible.

Wow. :rolleyes

[UglyNakedGuy]

I just read that we picked up Deion Branch. This is huge.

And you gave us a first round pick for him too. :lol

You guys gave up your first round pick to add to an already good recieving corps. Inteligent. :rolleyes Branch wasn't gonna play as a Patriot again, but we still managed to get something worthwhile from Seattle.

By the way, mr overrated looked good yesterday (Alexander)

It's tough to run without that O-Line huh Shaun. The Seattle system and their O-Line makes him better than he really is. He isn't a great 'all-around' back. He sucks at catching the ball, and he sucks at blocking.

[Tiduwho]

They were 2-3 in their first five last year.

3 and 3 before the 2nd Chicago game that dropped them back into the sludge of 1957. Man were their fans cocky before the game. Speaking of cocky Lions:


http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/cs-060911lionswilliams,1,4560295.story?coll=cs-home-headlines (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/cs-060911lionswilliams,1,4560295.story?coll=cs-home-headlines)



""We will win this game," Roy Williams told Detroit reporters. "Y'all can take that as a guarantee or what not, but we will win this game. You can take that as a guarantee if you want...there's no defense in the league that can stop us. We are our only 'defense'."


The Lions managed just two field goals in their last-play, 9-6 loss to the Seattle Seahawks.

"It was stupid how close we were to putting 40 points [wtf is he smoking?] on the board," Williams said.






Didn't Roy Williams gurantee a win in College and shit the bed?

[ncdude2k3]

Oakland is bad. Really bad.

[dmbmuskie]

How much money has Seattle spent this offseason? Alexander, Peterson, Burleson, and now Branch have all got huge deals or apparently will be getting a deal done soon in Branch's case.

[boutrous11]

Patriots may be getting Porter from the Raiders now also.

[nkc8246]

Firstly... It sucks to be a Packer fan right now but what the hell is this:

http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2006/09/11/2/

Why Koren Robinson

[Lcsulla]

Because it's the NFL, and the MLB is terrible.

I'll take MLB over the NFL anyday. I love football but it doesn't compare to baseball. I have already decided I am not spending a single cent this year to catch Raider games, it's just not worth it. In years past I have always tried to make an east coast game and catch the others at a bar but this year they're so bad I don't see a point to wasting my time and money. I have one hope in football this year and that is hoping the Patriots get smacked around each week.

[Bartndrpleez]

Tony K is a moron. All he kept doing was commenting on his fucking fantasy team that no one gives a damn about. He doesn't belong on MNF and neither does Thiesman. This new crew for MNF sucks.

I liked MNF's second team better than the first. The guys for the Raiders game are much better. I like Tony K but he doesn't belong as a commentator. Its like Dennis Miller all over again.

[seekupig]

I have already decided I am not spending a single cent this year to catch Raider games, it's just not worth it. In years past I have always tried to make an east coast game and catch the others at a bar but this year they're so bad I don't see a point to wasting my time and money.

what are you going to do with your Darth Vader costume if you don't go to a Raiders game? ;)

[Tiduwho]

I'll take MLB over the NFL anyday.


Perhaps the fact that your baseball team is going to the playoffs and is in the middle of a pennant race while your football team is the most pathetic joke of a franchise in the league right now might have something to do with that?

[dmbfd15]

I live in Dallas and when I woke up to read the sports page this morning it said in big letters Quarterback Contoversey... what the hell is up with that so what Drew had a bad game and unless he gets hurt Tony Romo will not play a down this season

[UNC41]

I live in Dallas and when I woke up to read the sports page this morning it said in big letters Quarterback Contoversey... what the hell is up with that so what Drew had a bad game and unless he gets hurt Tony Romo will not play a down this season

Parcells said Romo could see a few snaps this week.

[dmbmuskie]

I think Romo will get a shot if Bledsoe plays another bad game. Parcells doesn't have the time left in coaching to waste a season with Bledsoe throwing the ball to everyone but the Cowboys.

[UNC41]

How long until Merriman is the best defensive player in the NFL?

[dmbmuskie]

I'd start with Polamalu, but Merriman is real close behind.

[Rob]

Please excuse the interruption.

The sound you are hearing is the screaming of the women and children caught on the burning Dolphins Bandwagon. At approximately 2:30 PM EDT, the wheels came off (which were never attached well to begin with) to the surprise of only Dolphins fans and "experts" that felt it fashionable to stop picking the Patriots on the AFC East.

Details to follow, but it appears the accident occurred when too many fans pinned their hopes on the corpse of Daunte Culpepper, collapsing his already barely-existant chances of becoming an NFL quarterback again.

[Ascf33]

Does anyone know the site/link where you can listen to any sports game live on the internet?

[Ascf33]

n/m I found it.

www.thegamelive.com ... if anyone was interested.

[UNC41]

Please excuse the interruption.

The sound you are hearing is the screaming of the women and children caught on the burning Dolphins Bandwagon. At approximately 2:30 PM EDT, the wheels came off (which were never attached well to begin with) to the surprise of only Dolphins fans and "experts" that felt it fashionable to stop picking the Patriots on the AFC East.

Details to follow, but it appears the accident occurred when too many fans pinned their hopes on the corpse of Daunte Culpepper, collapsing his already barely-existant chances of becoming an NFL quarterback again.

Pass protection is far more of a problem than Daunte is right now.

[Bartndrpleez]

Please excuse the interruption.

The sound you are hearing is the screaming of the women and children caught on the burning Dolphins Bandwagon. At approximately 2:30 PM EDT, the wheels came off (which were never attached well to begin with) to the surprise of only Dolphins fans and "experts" that felt it fashionable to stop picking the Patriots on the AFC East.

Details to follow, but it appears the accident occurred when too many fans pinned their hopes on the corpse of Daunte Culpepper, collapsing his already barely-existant chances of becoming an NFL quarterback again.

The only positive thing I can say to this is that its only week 2, but I'm starting to agree with you. :shrug

I think that QB position in Miami is cursed. :lorraine

[Ascf33]

That was the ugliest Giants touchdown I have ever seen.

[RJ2kWJ]

I eat all of my previous words that I said during the pre-season... predicting that the Eagles wouldn't be too good. They are dirty. REAL dirty. God damn that hurt.

[Tiduwho]

Honestly, I think Chicago has three below average quarterbacks on their roster right now. I also think the defense will be very good this year, but asking them to do what they did last year might be a little much because that D was insane.


20/27 289 yds 4 TDs 148 QB rating


They still have 7 mins left and they're taking him out.



You were saying?

[Ascf33]

Thats that for the G-Men.

[UNC41]

20/27 289 yds 4 TDs 148 QB rating


They still have 7 mins left and they're taking him out.



You were saying?

He's off to a very good start this year, but I'm not about to anoint Grossman an elite starter yet after having two good games against poor secondarys.

[Tiduwho]

I just find it humorous how "elite" Daunte is, and yet how Grossman is just another "Florida QB".


Two more weeks, as the games get bigger. Minny next week will be another good test. And then the Sunday Night showdown with Seattle will be the real barometer for Rex to really see if he's the guy we've been waiting for in Chicago.

[UNC41]

I just find it humorous how "elite" Daunte is, and yet how Grossman is just another "Florida QB".


Two more weeks, as the games get bigger. Minny next week will be another good test. And then the Sunday Night showdown with Seattle will be the real barometer for Rex to really see if he's the guy we've been waiting for in Chicago.

You use quotes around those words like I actually said them. As a Dolphins fan I never said they have an elite QB in Culpepper, but one who was an elite in a similar system he was in two and three years ago. As for Grossman, I've said he's a guy who Bears fans anointed as a savior when he hasn't proven shit. He's beginning to prove that and earning my respect week by week. But, if there's any more words you'd like to put in my mouth feel free to.

[Tiduwho]

When did Bears fans annoint him as their savior? I guess you didn't hear how he was being booed throughout the entire preseason and the media was chanting "Start Griese" day in and day out? I was at the Chargers game and I couldn't believe all the fans around me. Booing anytime there was even an incompletion. And then nonstop cheering of Griese for successfully completing a handoff.


And yeah, I guess I shouldn't have used quotes, as I wasn't referring directly to you about it. Just the board and media at large that forgot how horrible Daunte was last year without Moss those first 5 or 6 games.

[RJ2kWJ]

Holy shit G-Men. The NFC east is wild.

[Ascf33]

Holy shit G-Men. The NFC east is wild.

:thumbsup

What a fucking game. I thought for sure Eli would be intercepted there. He just flung it up.

[Rob]

Wow do the Jets suck.

[UNC41]

When did Bears fans annoint him as their savior? I guess you didn't hear how he was being booed throughout the entire preseason and the media was chanting "Start Griese" day in and day out? I was at the Chargers game and I couldn't believe all the fans around me. Booing anytime there was even an incompletion. And then nonstop cheering of Griese for successfully completing a handoff.


And yeah, I guess I shouldn't have used quotes, as I wasn't referring directly to you about it. Just the board and media at large that forgot how horrible Daunte was last year without Moss those first 5 or 6 games.

Maybe it's not Bears fans as a whole, but one of my best friends and his two brothers preached it all summer. He's looked very good this year, along with the whole team, and I'm excited to see him challenged against Minnesota next weekend. The Vikings D looked excellent today.

[thebigv]

The general consensus was that Griese was preferred over Grossman around Chicago. I thought this was such a joke, especially with Bears fans normally being great fans. While, I'm a Grossman hater, he's only played 4 games or something and never had the opportunity to do anything. They'll love him after his performance today.

[UNC41]

See, Griese in the same locker room as Orton would scare the shit out of me. You know they are doing keg stands before the game and between each offensive series.

[BotheDMBFan]

Berrian playing good again, I shoulda started him over Fitzy.

[Pig17]

:thumbsup

What a fucking game. I thought for sure Eli would be intercepted there. He just flung it up.

The Giant's didn't win that game on their own merit, the Eagles gave it to them on a silver platter. :mad :BANG

[thebigv]

See, Griese in the same locker room as Orton would scare the shit out of me. You know they are doing keg stands before the game and between each offensive series.


My kind of guys. I wanna party with them.

[dmbmuskie]

What the hell is wrong with Carolina?

[seekupig]

I hate Herm Edwards.

that is all.

[luke7]

As a long time Dolphins fan I was right not to buy into the hype.

[dmbmuskie]

I don't think you can place the blame on Herm. Sure, he isn't the best coach, but he had nothing to do with Roaf retiring and your full back going to Minnesota.

[CrashDMB237]

Wow do the Jets suck.

We fought back like hell. It was a fun game to be at because it got really really exciting down the stretch and if you're a Jets fan, you know they aren't going anywhere this season, so all you pray for are good football games. And this was one of them.

I've been a Jets season ticket holder since birth, they've been in my family since they played at Shea. Maybe I'm being a bit bias or homerish, but I'm going to make a statement, and tell me if I'm wrong:

Vilma is a top 3 MLB in the entire league.

[dmbmuskie]

It depends. Are you guys playing the 34? I thought you were. He'd get killed inside in the 34.

[TwoStep2888]

I hate Herm Edwards.

that is all.

I wouldn't blame Herm.

Blame the fact that your starting QB is injured.

[AlanA4]

What the hell is wrong with Carolina?

i mean i'm, praying at this point that when we get steve smith back we start to play well again, but after todays game its just gettting rediculous. How many stupid desicions can we make per game

[dmbmuskie]

i mean i'm, praying at this point that when we get steve smith back we start to play well again, but after todays game its just gettting rediculous. How many stupid desicions can we make per game

I'm not trying to start shit, because my Steelers were all juiced up during the 70s, but do you think the on going investigation means some of your guys are playing clean for the first time in a long time?

[Bartender84]

Big improvement over last week, offense still needs some work but our defense is on fire.

[RJ2kWJ]

Cant find the comment... but to whoever said we are overrated...

How can a team be overrated when everyone, including their own fans, realize that we are HORRIBLE??!! Our offense is a joke. I think we need to take a season... build around Jason Campbell, hoping for a .500 season, then go from there. Mark Brunell is an absolute AssHat that needs to be ousted away from this organization.

[BotheDMBFan]

Oh yeah DA BEARS are right now, the best team in the NFC.

[Dancing Ants]

Cant find the comment... but to whoever said we are overrated...

How can a team be overrated when everyone, including their own fans, realize that we are HORRIBLE??!! Our offense is a joke. I think we need to take a season... build around Jason Campbell, hoping for a .500 season, then go from there. Mark Brunell is an absolute AssHat that needs to be ousted away from this organization.


i don't think you can blame it ALL on brunell with the way your O-line looked tonight.

[Dancing Ants]

Oh yeah DA BEARS are right now, the best team in the NFC.

yeah, that's what the Iggles were saying last week. beat a team that isn't in the top 5 worst teams in the NFL.

[BotheDMBFan]

Yeah, but uhh Da BEars are destroying teams.

A lot of people will sy it's the Seahawks, but thy haven't beaten a real team either.

They almost lost to the Lions, Da Bears killed um.

Da Bears went into Lambeau, and shut out Brett Farve for the first time in his carrer.

Granted, they won't really be tested until they play Seattle or Minnesota, but they're still a great team.

[RJ2kWJ]

i don't think you can blame it ALL on brunell with the way your O-line looked tonight.

O-line was fine for the most part. Brunell was unable to step up in the pocket 80% of the time though making them look bad.

[RJ2kWJ]

Yeah, but uhh Da BEars are destroying teams.

A lot of people will sy it's the Seahawks, but thy haven't beaten a real team either.

They almost lost to the Lions, Da Bears killed um.

Da Bears went into Lambeau, and shut out Brett Farve for the first time in his carrer.

Granted, they won't really be tested until they play Seattle or Minnesota, but they're still a great team.

Stop the "Da" thing. We get it. I cant stop making Chris Farley be the fucking voice in my head when I read that. :lol

[BotheDMBFan]

Stop the "Da" thing. We get it. I cant stop making Chris Farley be the fucking voice in my head when I read that. :lol

Good.

Wait, what "Da" hell are you talking about?

[Dancing Ants]

O-line was fine for the most part. Brunell was unable to step up in the pocket 80% of the time though making them look bad.

chalk that up to nice cowboys D.

[DMBfan41]

great comeback by the Giants. BIG WIN!

[BotheDMBFan]

great comeback by the Giants. BIG WIN!

More like, nice giveaway by the Eagles.

[DMBfan41]

More like, nice giveaway by the Eagles.

yeah, cause the giants didn't deserve that win :rolleyes

[BotheDMBFan]

No, they didn't.

They were getting fucking ass-rammed in the first half, then the Eagles choked it away.

Granted, it wasn't as bad as Carolina, but still pretty bad.

[DMBfan41]

No, they didn't.

They were getting fucking ass-rammed in the first half, then the Eagles choked it away.

Granted, it wasn't as bad as Carolina, but still pretty bad.

yeah, the Eagles dominated the first half....and the Giants dominated the fourth quarter.

But, i'm not that lame, I'm not gonna argue if the Giants won the game or if the Eagles lost the game.

Bottom line is, it was a great comeback victory for the Giants. 0-2 would have been killer. For someone who got sacked 8 times, Eli still played great in the 4th and OT. Defense was big when it had to be, stopped them on 4th and 1. Recovering the fumble to get back the ball. And recovering the Burress bloop and turning it into a TD. And what does Burress do to make up for the bloop? Makes a huge catch to win the game in OT.

Very happy tonight!

[BotheDMBFan]

It was a nice comeback, no doubt.

[UNC41]

Is it just me or has pass protection as a whole been completely awful this year?

[BotheDMBFan]

and CB's keep droppping INT's.

[Dancing Ants]

Da Bears went into Lambeau, and shut out Brett Farve for the first time in his carrer.


yeah, but favre's using a walker out there.

[BotheDMBFan]

No he isn't, he's using a driver ;)

[Tiduwho]

yeah, but favre's using a walker out there.

But look how much better he played when he wasn't against the Bears D?



Just wait two weeks. Then we'll know where da bearss (sss like snake) stand.

[Tiduwho]

yeah, that's what the Iggles were saying last week. beat a team that isn't in the top 5 worst teams in the NFL.

So how come the Seahawks nearly lost to them, and couldn't put more than 9 measly points on them if they are one of the top 5 worst teams?

Yet Seattle is considered miles ahead of the Bears still? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

[UNC41]

So how come the Seahawks nearly lost to them, and couldn't put more than 9 measly points on them if they are one of the top 5 worst teams?

Yet Seattle is considered miles ahead of the Bears still? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

I think you're looking too deep into one game. Good teams can have bad games against bad teams and vice versa. Last week, was a case where one of the best teams in the NFC (Seattle) struggled against one of the worst (Detroit). A slim margin of victory in one game doesn't change the stature of those two teams in my mind.

That being said, right now I'd have to say your frontrunners in the NFC are, in alphabetical order, Atlanta, Chicago and Seattle.

[BotheDMBFan]

Atlanta has surprised the hell out of me, Vick is actually plaing well.

Here's my top 5(In no order)

Bears
Falcons
Seahawks
Colts
Chargers

Granted, the Falcons and Colts are the only people who have actually played someone, but still, these teams are off the chain.

[UNC41]

J-Pep was absoutely sick today. His stat line read 8 tackles, 3 sacks and a blocked field goal. He was also about a half second away from sacking Johnson on the dump off to Williamson that turned into the big gainer during OT. If Peppers put all his physical tools to good use he'd be hands down the best defensive player in the league.

[UNC41]

Atlanta has surprised the hell out of me, Vick is actually plaing well.

Here's my top 5(In no order)

Bears
Falcons
Seahawks
Colts
Chargers

Granted, the Falcons and Colts are the only people who have actually played someone, but still, these teams are off the chain.

Baltimore has been impressive as hell also.

[Tiduwho]

I love Atlanta. Warrick Dunn is so consistent and yet he gets no credit ever, not to mention how good a guy he is.

I don't know WHAT the heck happened to Philly, they were looking great before I left.


And also, Chris Gamble. Lol, how fitting.

[BotheDMBFan]

Baltimore has been impressive as hell also.

Yeah, they almost made the cut.

[UNC41]

I like Atlanta so much more this year because they're not trying to fit Vick into the West Coast offense. The results have been astounding. They've averaged more than 275 yards a game on the ground against two of the NFC's best defenses.

[Bartender84]

People are reading way too much into the Seattle/Detroit game. Last season the Hawks started out 2-2 and didn't really get it going until the 5th week. I have no doubt that the offense will improve every week.

[Bartndrpleez]

I love Atlanta. Warrick Dunn is so consistent and yet he gets no credit ever, not to mention how good a guy he is.

I don't know WHAT the heck happened to Philly, they were looking great before I left.


And also, Chris Gamble. Lol, how fitting.

I definitely see myself rooting for the Falcons in the NFC. I love love love Dunn and Vick. I made the mistake of not picking up Dunn in my fantasy draft. I meant to and he stuck around until the 5th round but I should have just picked him earlier! Oh well.

Mostly, I just want them to beat out the Bucs b/c I hate them like poison. But yeah, Dunn doesn't get enough credit. He's damn good.

[BotheDMBFan]

People are reading way too much into the Seattle/Detroit game. Last season the Hawks started out 2-2 and didn't really get it going until the 5th week. I have no doubt that the offense will improve every week.

I think they'll end up getting manhandled against the Bears.

[CBurton27]

I like Atlanta so much more this year because they're not trying to fit Vick into the West Coast offense. The results have been astounding. They've averaged more than 275 yards a game on the ground against two of the NFC's best defenses.

Scary isn't it!!! Atlanta has been running a version of the option (similar to the one Vince Young ran at Texas) Vick has been playing som uch smarter.

How about the Falcons DEFENSE! Just think how good they will be when John Abraham and Edgern Hartwell get back from their injuries and Patrick Kearny is 100%

:multi

[ProudestAnt]

Buffalo was solid yesterday. I'm very pleased with where this season seems to be headed. If we can finish at .500 I will consider this season a success...

[41ravens]

TO out for the return to philly. imagine that. oh well, good win against the skins and he didn't do shit anyways. couldn't catch a ball to save his life. as long as our defense keeps points off the board and the offense stays consistent (ie, bledsoe not blowing dick), we should be alright.

[Dancing Ants]

i think he might be back by then, adam.

next up is Tennessee, btw.

[41ravens]

i think he might be back by then, adam.

next up is Tennessee, btw.

possibly. we'll see if he milks it at all. i'm sure he'll do everything in his power to play in that game, though.

and i decided to go with 'bye week'. just to remind myself we don't play this week.

[gravedigger13]

My Detroit Lions boycott is now entering its third week. I mean, is there a more pathetic team in all of sports?

[Tiduwho]

People are reading way too much into the Seattle/Detroit game. Last season the Hawks started out 2-2 and didn't really get it going until the 5th week. I have no doubt that the offense will improve every week.

Can't wait for Sunday Night October 1st.

[CBurton27]

It's been 20 hours since the Falcons game has been over...

WHY DON'T THEY HAVE A NEW KICKER YET??????? :BANG

4 missed FG's Sunday // 2 of 8 for the year ?!?!?!?!

:violent

[Tiduwho]

My Detroit Lions boycott is now entering its third week. I mean, is there a more pathetic team in all of sports?

Oakland Raiders.