NFL Football 2006-2007

[SteelerMan]

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. Enjoy your bye week @ 1-2.

Interesting coming from a fan of the team whose offseason motto was "If Carson Palmer hadn't gotten hurt, we would've won the Super Bowl". Enjoy those SI Steelers Super Bowl commercials.

[UglyNakedGuy]

What did I make up? Those stats are from ESPN.com... go check them yourself. Did you even watch the game? The Steelers dominated for the most part and lost mainly because they committed turnovers at the worst possible times (while attempting to go up 14-0 from the four yard line in the 1st quarter, while running down the clock in the 4th quarter with the lead (twice), and while trying to finish off a game tying drive in the 4th quarter). I'd say those are pretty crucial turnovers. I never said the Bengals won ONLY because of turnovers... you were putting words in my mouth there. If the Steelers didn't commit those turnovers, they would have won. It's difficult to argue with that if you actually watched the game.

The turnovers definately helped Cincy, but to say Pittsburgh would have def won if they didn't commit them is stupid and there's no way to know for sure.

And I said don't make up stuff, cause I ddin't read all of your false stats cause right when I read your little passing stats I KNEW they were made up cause Palmer had 193 yds, and Ben had 208 yds passing. Your numbers for BOTH QBs were completely wrong.

[dmbmuskie]

Actually they're right, if you knew about football, you'd know why they were right.

[SteelerMan]

And I said don't make up stuff, cause I ddin't read all of your false stats cause right when I read your little passing stats I KNEW they were made up cause Palmer had 193 yds, and Ben had 208 yds passing. Your numbers for BOTH QBs were completely wrong.

http://sports-att.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=260924023

Look at the "Team Stat Comparison" on the right side of the screen. When you go to the bottom of the screen, the numbers you posted are correct. It wasn't I who was wrong, it was ESPN.

Edit: All I can think of is that the individual player passing stats are their gross yardage without taking sacks into account.

[UNLTrpt]

Man, we were lucky to get out of there with a win. First win for the Bears at the Dome in 5 years.


Grossman really regained his composure after that boneheaded INT. Saddled up and delivered the 24 yard TD for the win. I don't know what Childress was thinking running a draw on 3rd and 7 with a minute left though.


That entire game was penalty power until the 4th. Plus had pressure on Grossman almost everytime he dropped back. We'll see what happens next week in Chicago against Seattle. They look pretty f'ing good right now.

yeah. I didn't like the 4th down call either. I don't so much mind the 3rd down call...it's 4 down territory. Maybe you catch the Bears in a deep zone and pick up 5-10. They did. I didn't like the 4th down call though. But I think the Vikes D is pretty good. They just need to get that O going.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Actually they're right, if you knew about football, you'd know why they were right.

I hope you're not talking to me.

If you are, back off and do NOT talk down to me in any sort of way. And do not start anything with me.

[UglyNakedGuy]

http://sports-att.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=260924023

Look at the "Team Stat Comparison" on the right side of the screen. When you go to the bottom of the screen, the numbers you posted are correct. It wasn't I who was wrong, it was ESPN.

Edit: All I can think of is that the individual player passing stats are their gross yardage without taking sacks into account.

Could be...But that doesn't count towards an amount of passing yards a player has. Palmer will have 193 or whatever it was towards his passing stats, not 150 or whatever ESPN said.

Ohw ell though, I'm done in here for a little bit today, I don't like being talked down to.

[dmbmuskie]

I hope you're not talking to me.

If you are, back off and do NOT talk down to me in any sort of way. And do not start anything with me.

I am, and when you figure out why the stats were right, you can talk to me.

[SteelerMan]

Bleh... it really doesn't matter why they lost. The fact is we're 1-2 heading into a bye week, and once again, we're facing an uphill climb to get into the playoffs. If I'm Cowher, I tell them to forget everything that's happened to this point and look at the game against the Chiefs in two weeks as a fresh start. As long as they can start winning again, everything else will take care of itself.

[SteelerMan]

Could be...But that doesn't count towards an amount of passing yards a player has. Palmer will have 193 or whatever it was towards his passing stats, not 150 or whatever ESPN said.

WROOOOOOOOOOONG! In college, sacks count against rushing totals... in the NFL, they count against passing totals. I don't like the rule either, but that's how it is.

[UglyNakedGuy]

I am, and when you figure out why the stats were right, you can talk to me.


I don't give a FUCK about talking to you or not..

Palmer had 479 yds going into today's game.

His stats going into next week's game for yds will be 672.

[dmbmuskie]

I don't give a FUCK about talking to you or not..

Palmer had 479 yds going into today's game.

His stats going into next week's game for yds will be 672.

Obviously, you still do give a fuck, or you wouldn't be posting still.

I'm glad you got the stats right, but do you know how you got them right?

[UglyNakedGuy]

Total Net Yards 278 339
Total Plays 58 66
Average Gain 4.8 5.1
Net Yards Rushing 38 143 Rushes 38 143 Avg. Per Rush 2.1 3.8
Net Yards Passing 240 196


Pleasetell me what the yardage for net passing says??


THANK YOU COME AGAIN.

Don't talk down to me when you are wrong.

I dono why you said I was wrong and Palmer's real net passing was 150 something that is BS, don't make up stuff.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Obviously, you still do give a fuck, or you wouldn't be posting still.

I'm glad you got the stats right, but do you know how you got them right?

Don't talk down to me hotshot.

[Tiduwho]

By the way, I told you guys about Chad-man and the Jets. :)

[UglyNakedGuy]

On a side note....

Joey Porter is a clown. He is a very good player, but he is an idiot.

[dmbmuskie]

Total Net Yards 278 339
Total Plays 58 66
Average Gain 4.8 5.1
Net Yards Rushing 38 143 Rushes 38 143 Avg. Per Rush 2.1 3.8
Net Yards Passing 240 196


Pleasetell me what the yardage for net passing says??


THANK YOU COME AGAIN.

Don't talk down to me when you are wrong.

I dono why you said I was wrong and Palmer's real net passing was 150 something that is BS, don't make up stuff.

I don't even know what you are talking about at this point. You've totally lost me.

[dmbmuskie]

Don't talk down to me hotshot.

I'll talk down to you, if I want. No matter how childish arguing over a message board is. You're talking shit. You're wrong. I'm going to talk down to you.

[SteelerMan]

I dono why you said I was wrong and Palmer's real net passing was 150 something that is BS, don't make up stuff.

How am I making stuff up when I copied it from ESPN.com and even provided a link? I'm done with this.

[UglyNakedGuy]

I'll talk down to you, if I want. No matter how childish arguing over a message board is. You're talking shit. You're wrong. I'm going to talk down to you.

I'm not wrong. I said what Palmer's net passing total was 190 something...Someone said it was 150 something, how am I wrong?


You have a lot of growing up to do. I am not talking shit, I didn't talk down or insult you one bit until you started being a dipshit to me.

Whatever I don't feel like playing a game with some insecure kid, so you're now blocked.

[SteelerMan]

On a side note....

Joey Porter is a clown. He is a very good player, but he is an idiot.

He is a clown... and he is a very good player... but how is he an idiot?

[dmbmuskie]

I'm not wrong. I said what Palmer's net passing total was 190 something...Someone said it was 150 something, how am I wrong?


You have a lot of growing up to do. I am not talking shit, I didn't talk down or insult you one bit until you started being a dipshit to me.

Whatever I don't feel like playing a game with some insecure kid, so you're now blocked.

That's awesome.

[UglyNakedGuy]

I don't even know what you are talking about at this point. You've totally lost me.

I stated Palmer's net passing yards earlier, you said I was wrong, I then got the boxscore to prove I WAS NOT wrong, and you still don't get it? Wow you must have a very very low attention span. I feel kinda bad for you.

I got all the stats I stated from the boxscore, and none of them were wrong.

[dmbmuskie]

They're all wrong.

[UglyNakedGuy]

He is a clown... and he is a very good player... but how is he an idiot?

He starts shit with EVERYBODY, and he allows his dogs to kill horses (he denies knowing about anything, but I don't believe him) that's my opinion though.

[dmbmuskie]

Post the link to where you got them from.

[UglyNakedGuy]

They're all wrong.

Would you like a cookie or some mother fucking coco puffs?

[dmbmuskie]

He starts shit with EVERYBODY, and he allows his dogs to kill horses (he denies knowing about anything, but I don't believe him) that's my opinion though.

Rodney Harrison does the same thing, minus the dogs.

[UglyNakedGuy]

I shouldnt have told Steelerman he was making stuff up, that was my bad, but you don't need to talk down to me for positng stats copied and pasted frmo the boxscore, and I have seen those stats in more than one place, so I think they are correct.

And find them yourself.

[dmbmuskie]

Would you like a cookie or some mother fucking coco puffs?

I thought I was blocked?

[SteelerMan]

He starts shit with EVERYBODY, and he allows his dogs to kill horses (he denies knowing about anything, but I don't believe him) that's my opinion though.

:lol

Alright... I can't take anymore of this today. Time to study.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Rodney Harrison does the same thing, minus the dogs.

Rodney Harrison does not start fights with people before the games start, and he doesn't publicly call players out saying he's gonna beat them down in the game. Again you are wrong.

He talks shit ON THE FIELD, during the game, and none of us know what he really says, it's speculation. He doesn't say he's gonna dominate a certain player or whatever, and cal them out like Porter does.

[dmbmuskie]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=260924023

Those seem to be differnet than what you have.

[UglyNakedGuy]

I thought I was blocked?

You must be in a bad mood cause your team got fucked up today.

[UglyNakedGuy]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=260924023

Those seem to be differnet than what you have.

That's one link....I have found several with different, ESPN seems to be the only one with those so they are probly wrong.

[dmbmuskie]

I'm in a bad mood because you're wrong and apparently just out to start shit today.

[Bartender84]

At the end of the year, NY will be the better team.
Seahawks are destroying the Giants and still people doubt them. I just don't understand it.

[UglyNakedGuy]

dmbmuskie you are so far from being right it's INCREDIBLE.

[dmbmuskie]

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/teamstats/NFL_20060924_CIN@PIT

They must be wrong too.

[UglyNakedGuy]

The turnovers definately helped Cincy, but to say Pittsburgh would have def won if they didn't commit them is stupid and there's no way to know for sure.

And I said don't make up stuff, cause I ddin't read all of your false stats cause right when I read your little passing stats I KNEW they were made up cause Palmer had 193 yds, and Ben had 208 yds passing. Your numbers for BOTH QBs were completely wrong.

What did I type there that's read in bold?

And what are the passing stats in your little link you provided?

K THANKS COME AGAIN.

[Tiduwho]

Seahawks are destroying the Giants and still people doubt them. I just don't understand it.

Tell me about it. The media WANTS the Giants and Eli to be good, and would rather just talk them up. They want their precious Manning Bowl.


I still love Peyton though.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Read post number 752 and know what you are talking about before you call someone wrong when you have no idea what you are talking about..

I claim over and over Palmer had 193 yds and not 150 something, then you say I am wrong over and over then you post a link STILL saying I am wrong, yet in your stupid link it STILL says Palmer had 193 passing yds.

[GOB_]

I thought I was in the MLB thread.

Anyway, team offensive stats are based on net yards. Player stats are based on gross.

[dmbmuskie]

What did I type there that's read in bold?

And what are the passing stats in your little link you provided?

K THANKS COME AGAIN.

What about your phantom stats?

We were talking about net passing yards not individual, and you still are lost.

[UglyNakedGuy]

I am talking about PAlmer's stats byt he way, and I have been the whole time. No fucking shit the total passing yards for the team will be different.

[dmbmuskie]

I thought I was in the MLB thread.

Anyway, team offensive stats are based on net yards. Player stats are based on gross.

Amen.

[UglyNakedGuy]

What about your phantom stats?

We were talking about net passing yards not individual, and you still are lost.

I'm not lost I know everything about what I am talking about.

[UglyNakedGuy]

I thought I was in the MLB thread.

Anyway, team offensive stats are based on net yards. Player stats are based on gross.

THANK YOU!

[Tiduwho]

Ughh.....let me clear it up for you guys. Sacks are counted for TEAM stats, for passing yards.


For a players individual statistics, they are not counted. Hence the discrepency.

There, argument over.

[dmbmuskie]

I'm done with this. You've changed your story enough. I hope you win next week.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Ughh.....let me clear it up for you guys. Sacks are counted for TEAM stats, for passing yards.


For a players individual statistics, they are not counted. Hence the discrepency.

There, argument over.

See I knew that, but I was talking about Palmer and I said Palmer will have 193 yds passing added to his season stats, and muskie boy said I am still wrong.

[UglyNakedGuy]

I'm done with this. You've changed your story enough. I hope you win next week.

Not quite, don't make up stuff to further your arguement.

[UglyNakedGuy]

DMBmuskie- I think you and I were talking about two different things, I think you think I was arguing about the team passing yards, but I was talking about individual stats.

[UglyNakedGuy]

4th down and Seattle still goes for it on 4th and inches even though they are on the 20yd line or so, and are winning 35-3....CLASSY.

[41ravens]

jesus christ, what is wrong with you people? arguing over stats? who gives a fuck? fact is, steelers lost. both teams had turnovers and both made mistakes. cinci was able to capitalize on those mistakes better than the steelers were. game over. super bowl champs are 1-2 looking up to the top at the 3-0 bengals. every other fucking petty argument is worthless at this point. who gives a shit who had more passing yards?

[GavMan33]

jesus christ, what is wrong with you people? arguing over stats? who gives a fuck? fact is, steelers lost. both teams had turnovers and both made mistakes. cinci was able to capitalize on those mistakes better than the steelers were. game over. super bowl champs are 1-2 looking up to the top at the 3-0 bengals. every other fucking petty argument is worthless at this point. who gives a shit who had more passing yards?

Amen buddy.

[GavMan33]

4th down and Seattle still goes for it on 4th and inches even though they are on the 20yd line or so, and are winning 35-3....CLASSY.

I pick up the sarcasm, and I agree with it. But interesting that you're talking about class....

[ncdude2k3]

thank god for john kasay. steve smith is good.

[UglyNakedGuy]

I pick up the sarcasm, and I agree with it. But interesting that you're talking about class....

Do not try to start an arguement with me.

[UglyNakedGuy]

I pick up the sarcasm, and I agree with it. But interesting that you're talking about class....

And it's these type of subtle remarks that get me pissed off and iritated. Stop trying to start things with me and it won't happen..

Leave it at that, don't continue on it and turn it into an arguement.

Talk football.

[CrashDMB237]

So when is Chad going to get some respect. Did ANYONE think he'd come back this strong? He's thrown one INT in three games and that was on a chuck and pray at the end of a game. I know our two wins are against the Bills and Titans, but the Bills have a pretty decent defense and, well, obviously, the Patriots are the best team in the whole world and Chad put up 300+ on them and nearly led us to a ridiculous comeback victory.

I know its fun to hate on Chad and the Jets, but can we get SOME respect?

[DMBfan41]

The Giants interpreted "Play hard in 4 quarters" into "Play hard in 4th quarter"

This needs to stop.

[JC10380]

Bengals win. Steelers fans, fuck you.

[i listen to #41]

Big Dolphins win today.

[CrashDMB237]

Big Dolphins win today.

I'm assuming that was sarcasm.

[trippinchad]

Chris Simms randomly went to the hospital, anyone know what happened?

[GOB_]

Chris Simms randomly went to the hospital, anyone know what happened?

He had emergency surgery to remove his ruptured spleen (which supposedly took place sometime in the 2nd quarter).

[UNC41]

I'm assuming that was sarcasm.

Any win is a big win for the Dolphins right now.

[UNC41]

So when is Chad going to get some respect. Did ANYONE think he'd come back this strong? He's thrown one INT in three games and that was on a chuck and pray at the end of a game. I know our two wins are against the Bills and Titans, but the Bills have a pretty decent defense and, well, obviously, the Patriots are the best team in the whole world and Chad put up 300+ on them and nearly led us to a ridiculous comeback victory.

I know its fun to hate on Chad and the Jets, but can we get SOME respect?

Yes, he's looked good so far. I don't see people in here saying he blows.

[CrashDMB237]

Any win is a big win for the Dolphins right now.

True. But heaven forbid I said it was a big win when the Jets whipped up the Titans and you would have thought the world was ending.

[CrashDMB237]

Yes, he's looked good so far. I don't see people in here saying he blows.

Go back a few pages.

[BotheDMBFan]

Well, Da Bears win ugly, but they still won.

[DMBfan41]

Chris Simms had to get a spleenectomy. Damn.

He'll probably be out 2-3 months, most likely the rest of the season.

[Tiduwho]

This just in:


The Broncos still own Brady and the Pats.

[BotheDMBFan]

This just in.

I was right, Ugly was wrong.

I still have airpane ears.

[41ravens]

Well, Da Bears win ugly, but they still won.

don't you like the rams?

[BotheDMBFan]

I like them because of my dad.

I'm a Bears fan though.

[UNC41]

Chris Simms had to get a spleenectomy. Damn.

He'll probably be out 2-3 months, most likely the rest of the season.

Which is actually good for the Bucs.

[Franchize41]

Which is actually good for the Bucs.

its like christmas in september :multi :multi :multi

[thebigv]

its like christmas in september :multi :multi :multi

Lets see if Gradkowski can spark the offense and get you guys started!

[Franchize41]

Lets see if Gradkowski can spark the offense and get you guys started!

its too late now with our tough december schedule but itd be nice... I said during the game it was simms gutsiest effort id seen him play... and then they were removed :lol If this keeps up though Tampa Bay will get the chance to see Brady Quinn throwing TDs to Maurice Stovall again ala their ND days together

[thebigv]

I'd like to see Brady Quinn start throwing balls like he did last year. Right now Simms looks like a better QB. How much PT is Stovall getting? I might try and make it to the Bears-Bucs game in December if he's going to be playing. :D

[UglyNakedGuy]

its tough to win games when you get RIDICULOUS flags thrown on you 28 times a game by the same awful officiating crew who called the AFC playoffs game last year between the Pats and Denver as well.

I'm so pissed right now I can't believe it.

I know someone immature will rub it in and say I'm blaming it on the calls, so save it.

[Franchize41]

I'd like to see Brady Quinn start throwing balls like he did last year. Right now Simms looks like a better QB. How much PT is Stovall getting? I might try and make it to the Bears-Bucs game in December if he's going to be playing. :D

hes the #4 WR behind Galloway, Clayton and Hilliard and is dressing for the games, but hasnt seen action yet... He had a great preseason though and I wanna see what he can do when games count.

[UNC41]

its tough to win games when you get RIDICULOUS flags thrown on you 28 times a game by the same awful officiating crew who called the AFC playoffs game last year between the Pats and Denver as well.

I'm so pissed right now I can't believe it.

I know someone immature will rub it in and say I'm blaming it on the calls, so save it.

Not trying to be an ass, but aren't you?

[Franchize41]

its tough to win games when you get RIDICULOUS flags thrown on you 28 times a game by the same awful officiating crew who called the AFC playoffs game last year between the Pats and Denver as well.

I'm so pissed right now I can't believe it.

I know someone immature will rub it in and say I'm blaming it on the calls, so save it.

I wouldnt blame you if you did blame it on the calls... they were flag happy tonight

[Franchize41]

Not trying to be an ass, but aren't you?

:lol the pats and sox lost today... if I were him id be the same way

[UglyNakedGuy]

Not trying to be an ass, but aren't you?

:rolleyes

[UglyNakedGuy]

I wouldnt blame you if you did blame it on the calls... they were flag happy tonight

Thanks man.

I HATE that old ref, does anyone know his name? He is an awful ref. I've always known him to be the clown who throws a flag every play and then picks it up and says "there is no penalty on the play"

He is the worst ref.

[Franchize41]

Thanks man.

I HATE that old ref, does anyone know his name? He is an awful ref. I've always known him to be the clown who throws a flag every play and then picks it up and says "there is no penalty on the play"

He is the worst ref.

Gerry Austin I believe is who your referring to... and I hate when they thrown flags for no good reason

[UNC41]

:rolleyes

Mmkay ...

[UglyNakedGuy]

Gerry Austin I believe is who your referring to... and I hate when they thrown flags for no good reason

That's his name...thanks man

UNC-lay off dude seriosuly I'm not in the mood.

[Franchize41]

I may be excited as hell that Simms is out, but when he left the game the first time I never thought he was coming back... I dont think many other QBs would have tried to come back as dumb as it may have been... I cant recall anyone ever rupturing a spleen during a game before either.

[GavMan33]

its tough to win games when you get RIDICULOUS flags thrown on you 28 times a game by the same awful officiating crew who called the AFC playoffs game last year between the Pats and Denver as well.

I'm so pissed right now I can't believe it.

I know someone immature will rub it in and say I'm blaming it on the calls, so save it.

Because the current Bills team sucks, I'm going to keep lamenting on the past. I believe it was the same year as the "Homerun Throw-forward" in Nashville. But what I will bring up is a game in Foxboro, Bills vs. Patriots, back when that douchebag Pete Carroll was still coaching them. That officiating crew on New England's final drive down the field, they blew two straight calls. One was a ball caught by Jefferson (I think that was the name of the Pats WR), and then a BS pass interference call on a hail mary to the endzone on the Bills' Thomas Smith. Time expired, but the game can't end on a defensive penalty, so there was another play. The Bills got screwed twice in a row, and then (I think it was Bledsoe then) found a wide open Ben Coates for the winning score with no time left. So of course the Bills walked off the field because it was such bullshit, and I have the indelible image in my head of that dbag Carroll jumping up and down on the sidelines, a huge smile on his face, signaling for his kicker to go for two since there was no defense. What a shithead. Sorry again for my rant....

[BotheDMBFan]

Thanks man.

I HATE that old ref, does anyone know his name? He is an awful ref. I've always known him to be the clown who throws a flag every play and then picks it up and says "there is no penalty on the play"

He is the worst ref.


Dude, the only good ref is that black guy.

He actually knows what he's doing.

[UNC41]

That's his name...thanks man

UNC-lay off dude seriosuly I'm not in the mood.

Dude, it was an honest question. Are you putting the loss solely on the refs or on a combo of the refs and the Pats. I didn't watch the game.

[Franchize41]

Dude, the only good ref is that black guy.

He actually knows what he's doing.


as bad as it sounds to say that, I kinda agree, he is the best in the league. Ed Hochuli is the only other ref that I think is good

[BotheDMBFan]

The game was utter shite.

Bad play, bad refs, shite announcers.

The works.

[Franchize41]

Dude, it was an honest question. Are you putting the loss solely on the refs or on a combo of the refs and the Pats. I didn't watch the game.

As bad as the refs were, Brady looked off tonight

[BotheDMBFan]

as bad as it sounds to say that, I kinda agree, he is the best in the league. Ed Hochuli is the only other ref that I think is good

That and, you never know which way he is going with a call until he moves those big, muscley(sp) arms of his.

[UNC41]

as bad as it sounds to say that, I kinda agree, he is the best in the league. Ed Hochuli is the only other ref that I think is good

There are at most five people on the face of this planet whose ass Ed Hochuli couldn't kick.

[BotheDMBFan]

There are at most five people on the face of this planet whose ass Ed Hochuli couldn't kick.

Huh?

Edit: Nevermind.

[BotheDMBFan]

Reggie Wayne's brother died.

Dude, today just sucks.

[UNC41]

Reggie Wayne's brother died.

Dude, today just sucks.

We've got no food, we've got no jobs, our pets heads are falling off.

[BotheDMBFan]

What was that from, I friggin forget.

[UNC41]

Dumb and Dumber.

[BotheDMBFan]

Thank you.

Anyways, this was a horrid week for football.

Almost all the games were boring as hell.

I hope tomorrow isn't a total shit fest either.

[msunagy]

The lions are by far the worst team in the NFL

[BotheDMBFan]

Raiders.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Mark Brunell's 22 completions in a row is over rated...It's not that hard to complete passes when you throw the ball 8 feet every pass. I mean it's a great feat, but give me a break.

[BotheDMBFan]

God, stop complaining.

Even when you try to be positive you complain.


And don't use that Pats losing as an excuse, most of my teams are utter shit.

[UglyNakedGuy]

The lions are by far the worst team in the NFL

No they aren't.

Not even close..It's the Raiders by far.

[UglyNakedGuy]

God, stop complaining.

Even when you try to be positive you complain.


And don't use that Pats losing as an excuse, most of my teams are utter shit.

Shutup.

[BotheDMBFan]

No, I'd rather not.

[Dancing Ants]

Shutup.

you guys do whine a lot.

don't worry, dmbgodagirl whines more than all the rest of the pats fans around here put together.

[UglyNakedGuy]

No, I'd rather not.

Grow up and leave me alone then..

[BotheDMBFan]

Ha Ha Ha Ha

[BotheDMBFan]

Grow up and leave me alone then..

Just funny how that came out.

[UglyNakedGuy]

you guys do whine a lot.

don't worry, dmbgodagirl whines more than all the rest of the pats fans around here put together.

Uh, you wuolda complained too if your team recieved the awful officiating the Pats just did.

[UNC41]

Mark Brunell's 22 completions in a row is over rated...It's not that hard to complete passes when you throw the ball 8 feet every pass. I mean it's a great feat, but give me a break.

It's not hitting in 56 games in a row, but it's still impressive. If it wasn't, teams would march down the field three years at a time unstoppable.

[BotheDMBFan]

Dear God, your team isn't the only one who get's screwed by the refs.

Grow the hell up.

[Dancing Ants]

Uh, you wuolda complained too if your team recieved the awful officiating the Pats just did.

you have no idea. i'm a dallas mavericks fan, if that means anything to you.

[UglyNakedGuy]

It's not hitting in 56 games in a row, but it's still impressive. If it wasn't, teams would march down the field three years at a time unstoppable.

I said it was impressive, but not AS impressive as people make it out do be. A lot of QBs could get 22 completions in a row if they threw screens to their RB or WR every play and never throw a pass more than 8 yds...But no one does that.

[UglyNakedGuy]

you have no idea. i'm a dallas mavericks fan, if that means anything to you.

Nope

[BotheDMBFan]

I said it was impressive, but not AS impressive as people make it out do be. A lot of QBs could get 22 completions in a row if they threw screens to their RB or WR every play and never throw a pass more than 8 yds...But no one does that.

Orton did......except he'd jsut fucking overthrow the people :freak

[UglyNakedGuy]

Orton did......except he'd jsut fucking overthrow the people :freak

:lol

[Dancing Ants]

Nope

look up NBA Finals 2006 Games 3, 4,5,6.

[UglyNakedGuy]

As of right now, my QBs are Palmer and Favre...Palmer's bye week is week 5, and Favre and Bulger are facing each other in Green Bay...

So should I pick up Bulger, yes someone just dropped him.

Bulger against GB in GB or
Favre against STL at home?

[UglyNakedGuy]

look up NBA Finals 2006 Games 3, 4,5,6.
Never been an NBA fan.

[BotheDMBFan]

BUlger.


BTW, my whole team fucked me today.

[UglyNakedGuy]

BUlger.


BTW, my whole team fucked me today.

Why not Favre if I might ask, I'm not questioning why, just looking for you to elaborate so I can make a decision. Cause honestly, I was leaning towards picking up Bulger, but Favre has played great the past two weeks..and that game will be in GB..I dono....

[BotheDMBFan]

Because the Rams, as a whole, have owned the Packers for God knows how long.

[Dancing Ants]

Never been an NBA fan.

that's beyond the point.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Because the Rams, as a whole, have owned the Packers for God knows how long.

I wasn't aware of that.

[UNC41]

As of right now, my QBs are Palmer and Favre...Palmer's bye week is week 5, and Favre and Bulger are facing each other in Green Bay...

So should I pick up Bulger, yes someone just dropped him.

Bulger against GB in GB or
Favre against STL at home?

Part of me is leaning toward Favre right now. What I've gotten out of the last two weeks is when his playmakers are of a similar level to the defense he's facing, Favre can still put up numbers with the best of them. The Rams fit into this league. During Week 1, da Bears just had so much speed on defense and so many playmakers that Favre really had to press and force some throws in hopes of keeping Green Bay in the game. It's seemed the past couple of years when he makes one mistake against this type of defense, that mistake easily snowballs into 5 or 6.

I don't know if I could pull the trigger to start Favre over Bulger at this point, but I think I'd try talking myself into it.

[Tiduwho]

The lions are by far the worst team in the NFL

Not even close. The Raiders lost to the bye this week.




But tell that to Mark Schlereth, Michael Smith, and the host of idiots from our own town in Chicago that said the Bears would be 8 and 8 and the Lions would win the division in resounding fashion.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Dear Tommy Brady:
Who are you throwing to? I appreciate the fact that you got me 14 points in fantasy, but honestly, this is what I want you to do this week:

Go to ESPN Zone and play that game where you have to throw the football through the wooden guys with the nets between their arms. Do it about 50 this week.

Thankseverso much.
Your Wife,
Katie

[CrashDMB237]

This only supports my theory:

Boston fans suck.

[dmbgodagirl41]

This only supports my theory:

Boston fans suck.
based on what?

[dmbgodagirl41]

It's okay about the horrible calls...the Pats are used to losing games due to the Refs wearing broncos jerseys under their stripes.

[CrashDMB237]

based on what?

Everything I've ever seen from Pats/Celtics/Red Sox/Bruins fans. My theory is pretty solid. I might even put out a back on it, maybe write a thesis, I don't know. But I'm feeling confident about it. This may be the next big thing.

[BotheDMBFan]

This only supports my theory:

Boston fans suck.

:thumbsup

[dmbgodagirl41]

Everything I've ever seen from Pats/Celtics/Red Sox/Bruins fans. My theory is pretty solid. I might even put out a back on it, maybe write a thesis, I don't know. But I'm feeling confident about it. This may be the next big thing.
wow, yes, thank you for giving me examples of things said by boston fans (maybe in this thread) that makes me totally understand why you would think that! And I guess you have to speak in terms of relativity, because all of boston is not as bad as a single block of NY or Philly fans.

[Trippin4136]

why is it, every 4 or 5 years, regardless of the coach the Giants start to mutiny? Doesn't matter if its Dan Reeves, Jim Fassel or Coughlin...eventually they start to hate their coach.

And that secondary, my god, I think my sister could run a post past Sam Madison.

Oh yea, and Plaxico might as well put on a skirt and hit the streets, b/c he's a bitch.

[UNC41]

why is it, every 4 or 5 years, regardless of the coach the Giants start to mutiny? Doesn't matter if its Dan Reeves, Jim Fassel or Coughlin...eventually they start to hate their coach.

And that secondary, my god, I think my sister could run a post past Sam Madison.

Oh yea, and Plaxico might as well put on a skirt and hit the streets, b/c he's a bitch.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2601690

Coughlin has no control over that team. They've got as much talent as pretty much any other team in the NFC, but won't go anywhere meaningful with him at the helm.

[CrashDMB237]

wow, yes, thank you for giving me examples of things said by boston fans (maybe in this thread) that makes me totally understand why you would think that! And I guess you have to speak in terms of relativity, because all of boston is not as bad as a single block of NY or Philly fans.

Its different with NY fans, because we win. And when we LOSE, we admit we deserved to lose and we get on our teams. In Boston, its everyone else's fault. Either the refs, injuries, etc.

How does it feel to be tied with my Jets for first?

[dmbgodagirl41]

Its different with NY fans, because we win. And when we LOSE, we admit we deserved to lose and we get on our teams. In Boston, its everyone else's fault. Either the refs, injuries, etc.

How does it feel to be tied with my Jets for first?
Yeah, cuz the Pats haven't won a super bowl in many, many years.

And um, we aren't tied, we are up by 1/2 a game with them because we beat them last weekend. So actually, I wouldn't know what it's like to be tied with them, because the Pats are actually in first....so please, keep talking so we can all see how much of a moron you are.

[boutrous11]

is it me or did I hear more lewd language on ESPN, by Irvin and company, before the games Sunday? I was in another room and couldn't hear very well.

[Trippin4136]

Its different with NY fans, because we win. And when we LOSE, we admit we deserved to lose and we get on our teams. In Boston, its everyone else's fault. Either the refs, injuries, etc.

How does it feel to be tied with my Jets for first?

seriously, no matter what message board i'm on, Pats fans are constantly bitching about the refs.

[Trippin4136]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2601690

Coughlin has no control over that team. They've got as much talent as pretty much any other team in the NFC, but won't go anywhere meaningful with him at the helm.

Shockey has the right to be pissed. He is so underutilized in that offense its ridiculous.

And Coughlin just sucks. For someone who is such a disciplinarian, he couldn't control a group of 1st graders.

[dmbgodagirl41]

seriously, no matter what message board i'm on, Pats fans are constantly bitching about the refs.

Well, to be fair, 9 times out of 10 there is good reason for that. No, the Pats didn't play too well last night, but it didn't help that the refs pretty much gift wrapped the Denver win for them. How the HELL does Tom Brady throw for more than 300 yards and they don't win? There were so many offensive pass interference calls against the Pats it was ridiculous. If I'm going for the ball and your stupid ass gets in the way and I end up trampling you, that's your stupid Denver fault.

Plus, it doesn't help that last years playoff game v. denver with the Pats was completely handed to Denver in every way. Champ Bailey must have had some kind of blackmale material on the refs. Don't Believe me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKQgNb0H06Q

[Trippin4136]

wahhh wahhh wahhh

Keep people out of the end zone if you want to win.

And throwing the ball 50+ times isn't going to help either.

[dmbgodagirl41]

wahhh wahhh wahhh

Keep people out of the end zone if you want to win.

And throwing the ball 50+ times isn't going to help either.

We did. The refs weren't wearing their glasses:)

If he had to do target practice it would help! I found myself saying "who the shit are you throwing to, Tommy?" last night. He just needs to give it to Maroney everytime so he can completely stiff arm people and kill them.

[Trippin4136]

Maroney is sick. I loved watching him play at Minnesota. The Pats got a good one there.

Either way, I enjoy seeing the Pats lose and Tom Brady bitch like a girl in post-game press conferences.

[UNC41]

Maroney is sick. I loved watching him play at Minnesota. The Pats got a good one there.

Either way, I enjoy seeing the Pats lose and Tom Brady bitch like a girl in post-game press conferences.

I watched him play multiple times in person there, and it was an absolute treat. That rushing offense was just straight sick when both Barber and Maroney were in the backfield.

Like I said, I didn't watch the Pats game, but you aren't going to win too often when you rush for 50 yards at 2.4 yards per carry while your opponents go for rush for 144 at 4.2. Also, Katie I was watching Mike and Mike and teams with 300 yard passers went 2-3 yesterday. It's not like Brady throwing for 300+ and losing is a travesty.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Maroney is sick. I loved watching him play at Minnesota. The Pats got a good one there.

Either way, I enjoy seeing the Pats lose and Tom Brady bitch like a girl in post-game press conferences.
Yeah, I'm glad I yoinked him in the second week of fantasy. He just mows over people!

Yeah, Tom Brady probably comes off as a whiney bitch when he loses because he's not really used to it ;)

[Rob]

Jesus Christ, Katie, I'm so sick of your pathetic whining. You are exactly the Boston fan that makes people sick, myself included.

The Pats lost. It's that simple. They don't have a deep threat, so Denver could stuff 8 in the box and kill the run. Brady, who has been pathetic all season, was only able to complete 5-7 yard passes, which Denver willingly conceded. Denver had a great game plan, followed it to perfection, and beat the Patriots. It's that simple.

There's a good argument for the playoff game, but that wasn't last night and has no bearing on last night. The Pats lost and were never a threat. They don't have the personnel they need. If you want to get pissed at somebody, get pissed at Kraft or Bellicheck for thinking their "Get more, pay less" was going to work forever. Thanks to their penny pinching, this team has the lowest cap number in the NFL (or close to it), no receivers, an unproven kicker that can't get the ball up, and an aging defense.

If you're going to continue to give New England-area fans a bad name, do it somewhere else. Glossy-eyed fanboys and fangirls disgust me.

[dmbgodagirl41]

I watched him play multiple times in person there, and it was an absolute treat. That rushing offense was just straight sick when both Barber and Maroney were in the backfield.

Like I said, I didn't watch the Pats game, but you aren't going to win too often when you rush for 50 yards at 2.4 yards per carry while your opponents go for rush for 144 at 4.2. Also, Katie I was watching Mike and Mike and teams with 300 yard passers went 2-3 yesterday. It's not like Brady throwing for 300+ and losing is a travesty.

Oh yeah, it's true (about the losing with 300+ yards), but it's just weird, cuz usually when Tommy has a lot of throwing yards, they usually win.

I mean, I"m not that torn up about the Pats losing, it's not a HUGE deal to me. I think they will be okay this year....and win the division (which doesn't say much) but they lost A LOT of good guys this year due to shitty managment and retardedness, so in my opinion, this is a rebuilding year. But I'll always be gung ho about them! I mean, I can admit when they didn't play well. The Pats D was okay, but Denver was just more on than the Pats. It happens, so it's okay :)

[Trippin4136]

ohhhh shit...PWNED by a fellow fan :lol

[Bartndrpleez]

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup to the Fins squeezing one out and the Pats letting one get away! :D

[dmbgodagirl41]

Jesus Christ, Katie, I'm so sick of your pathetic whining. You are exactly the Boston fan that makes people sick, myself included.

The Pats lost. It's that simple. They don't have a deep threat, so Denver could stuff 8 in the box and kill the run. Brady, who has been pathetic all season, was only able to complete 5-7 yard passes, which Denver willingly conceded. Denver had a great game plan, followed it to perfection, and beat the Patriots. It's that simple.

There's a good argument for the playoff game, but that wasn't last night and has no bearing on last night. The Pats lost and were never a threat. They don't have the personnel they need. If you want to get pissed at somebody, get pissed at Kraft or Bellicheck for thinking their "Get more, pay less" was going to work forever. Thanks to their penny pinching, this team has the lowest cap number in the NFL (or close to it), no receivers, an unproven kicker that can't get the ball up, and an aging defense.

If you're going to continue to give New England-area fans a bad name, do it somewhere else. Glossy-eyed fanboys and fangirls disgust me.

Im sorry, but who the fuck are you and who the fuck do you THINK you are? I make no more random comments around here than anyone else, so please feel free to take your head out of your ass and back off. My comments don't make New England fans look bad. Why is it that when a Pats fan is passionate about their team they are considered dicks, but if a Bengals fan or Steelers fan or Indy fan is the same way, they are just passionate? Jesus christ. I'm not going to bite my tongue and not say what I think just because I might come off as an asshole. In case you haven't noticed, I say what I want no matter what the topic is, so get off your high horse and stop thinking you are god's gift to telling me when to shut my mouth.

Just because I have a vagina doesn't mean I am some kind of glossy-eyed fan, so kiss my ass.

[dmbhoosier21]

I watched him play multiple times in person there, and it was an absolute treat. That rushing offense was just straight sick when both Barber and Maroney were in the backfield.

Like I said, I didn't watch the Pats game, but you aren't going to win too often when you rush for 50 yards at 2.4 yards per carry while your opponents go for rush for 144 at 4.2. Also, Katie I was watching Mike and Mike and teams with 300 yard passers went 2-3 yesterday. It's not like Brady throwing for 300+ and losing is a travesty.

Unless you are the Colts (see Giants, Jags game)

The first quarter was the worst piece of defense I have ever seeen. They gave up 100 yards in the first quarter alone

Seriously the Colts need to patch up their defense :BANG (although they did a good job adjusting in the second half)

And maybe get a running game along the way

[Trippin4136]

Why is it that when a Pats fan is passionate about their team they are considered dicks, but if a Bengals fan or Steelers fan or Indy fan is the same way, they are just passionate? Jesus christ.



b/c Boston fans are constantly bitching.

NY fans have egos, but you don't see pissing and moaning about our teams all the time.

[dmbgodagirl41]

b/c Boston fans are constantly bitching.

NY fans have egos, but you don't see pissing and moaning about our teams all the time.
If you were a Boston fan, would you or would you not bitch about your sports teams (in general)? C'mon now, honestly. :lol

[Trippin4136]

I would bitch about living in Boston

[dmbgodagirl41]

I would bitch about living in Boston
why, its about 10000 times better than NY or anything within 100 miles from NYC. Didn't we already establish this? :)

[CrashDMB237]

I would bitch about living in Boston


Bingo. There's not a single appealing thing in that city, especially its sports teams and fans.

[Trippin4136]

b/c I would have to deal with d-bag fans like yourself who can't accept when they're team was straight up beat.

[dmbgodagirl41]

b/c I would have to deal with d-bag fans like yourself who can't accept when they're team was straight up beat.
Are we still talking about just the Red Sox? Because its the NEW ENGLAND patriots, so you should just avoid all 6 states if you want to avoid everyone. Unless you go to parts of CT and find sell out NY fans :)

[dmbgodagirl41]

Bingo. There's not a single appealing thing in that city, especially its sports teams and fans.
you live in CT, one of the five non-legit states in New England, so I'd say that if you think Boston sucks, then I'll take that as a compliment so thanks :)

Not that I actually live in Boston, or am from Boston, but still.

[Trippin4136]

Does it matter? Boston based fans give the whole fan base a bad name.

Wait, you pride on the fact that its the NEW ENGLAND Patriots, then you go ahead and call all the other NE states non-legit?

[CrashDMB237]

you live in CT, one of the five non-legit states in New England, so I'd say that if you think Boston sucks, then I'll take that as a compliment so thanks :)

Not that I actually live in Boston, or am from Boston, but still.

Where I live and where my roots are are two different things. Why would you take it as a compliment? I guess Boston fans aren't FUNNY either.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Does it matter? Boston based fans give the whole fan base a bad name.

Wait, you pride on the fact that its the NEW ENGLAND Patriots, then you go ahead and call all the other NE states non-legit?
Sure it matters. I know people who are Yankees/Pats fans. They are DICKS. Probably due to the Yankees fanage pouring over into the Pats fanage

MA-ers call every other state non-legit, it happens and it's very commonplace.

[RJ2kWJ]

Im sorry, but who the fuck are you and who the fuck do you THINK you are? I make no more random comments around here than anyone else, so please feel free to take your head out of your ass and back off. My comments don't make New England fans look bad. Why is it that when a Pats fan is passionate about their team they are considered dicks, but if a Bengals fan or Steelers fan or Indy fan is the same way, they are just passionate? Jesus christ. I'm not going to bite my tongue and not say what I think just because I might come off as an asshole. In case you haven't noticed, I say what I want no matter what the topic is, so get off your high horse and stop thinking you are god's gift to telling me when to shut my mouth.

Just because I have a vagina doesn't mean I am some kind of glossy-eyed fan, so kiss my ass.

You should atleast consider Robs opinion since he IS a fellow Pats fan and knows what he's talking about.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Where I live and where my roots are are two different things. Why would you take it as a compliment? I guess Boston fans aren't FUNNY either.
Because you seem like a dickless wonder who has nothing better to do with your time than criticize others. Therefore, if you say its bad, it probably kicks ass.

[dh4645]

go eagles!

i thought they were going to give up their lead like last week, but they kept it.

good work F'ers!

[dmbgodagirl41]

You should atleast consider Robs opinion since he IS a fellow Pats fan and knows what he's talking about.
Oh, I know. But when you tell me that all I do is whine and bitch when that clearly isn't correct, I tell you just how I think you're acting.

Clearly if Rob thinks I am some kind of glossy-eyed fan, he has no clue who I am, nor has he even read any of my posts having to do with sports. Yeah, I love the Pats and think positively about them, but I have no problem saying when they sucked. I said that last night they sucked, but it didn't help that the refs made some bullshit calls.

[CrashDMB237]

Because you seem like a dickless wonder who has nothing better to do with your time than criticize others. Therefore, if you say its bad, it probably kicks ass.

Hooray for childish name-calling! To me, it seems like YOU'RE the dickless (literally) wonder who has nothing better to do with your time than criticize others.

[Trippin4136]

Sure it matters. I know people who are Yankees/Pats fans. They are DICKS. Probably due to the Yankees fanage pouring over into the Pats fanage

MA-ers call every other state non-legit, it happens and it's very commonplace.

I know people who are Red Sox/Pats fans and they are HUGE DICKS. Probably due to the idiot ingredient in the water up there.

I love how you prided on NE and then bash the rest. I'll take what Vermont, NH and Maine have to offer any day than pompous, arrogant filled MA.

[UNC41]

If you were a Boston fan, would you or would you not bitch about your sports teams (in general)? C'mon now, honestly. :lol

Four titles this decade. Yep, Boston fans definately have reasons to bitch.

[dmbgodagirl41]

go eagles!

i thought they were going to give up their lead like last week, but they kept it.

good work F'ers!
ummmm.....did you not see who they were playing?

[Trippin4136]

Hooray for childish name-calling! To me, it seems like YOU'RE the dickless (literally) wonder who has nothing better to do with your time than criticize others.

don't kid yourself, shes packin a huge cock.

[Rob]

Clearly if Rob thinks I am some kind of glossy-eyed fan, he has no clue who I am, nor has he even read any of my posts having to do with sports. Yeah, I love the Pats and think positively about them, but I have no problem saying when they sucked. I said that last night they sucked, but it didn't help that the refs made some bullshit calls.

All the shit I ever read is about how hot Tom Brady is and your creepy butt-chin fetish. I have never seen you contribute anything other than "Yay, we won!" or "We lost! It's x's fault." Seeing "Tommy" in print every-other post is nauseating.

You're getting called out on it, and I still haven't seen anything as proof-positive you're anything other than obsessing over a quarterback. In Junior High, there was a girl who acted the exact same way about Troy Aikman. It disgusted me then, it disgusts me now.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Four titles this decade. Yep, Boston fans definately have reasons to bitch.
That's the thing. I don't bitch about the Red Sox, and I just made a comment about how the reffing was sucky last night! I have not made one comment about the Red Sox anywhere here, positive or negative, so I don't get why I am being labelled the one who is the "Boston Bitcher". What the hell!

[UNC41]

All the shit I ever read is about how hot Tom Brady is and your creepy butt-chin fetish. I have never seen you contribute anything other than "Yay, we won!" or "We lost! It's x's fault." Seeing "Tommy" in print every-other post is nauseating.

You're getting called out on it, and I still haven't seen anything as proof-positive you're anything other than obsessing over a quarterback. In Junior High, there was a girl who acted the exact same way about Troy Aikman. It disgusted me then, it disgusts me now.

You went to junior high with my mom?

[dmbgodagirl41]

All the shit I ever read is about how hot Tom Brady is and your creepy butt-chin fetish. I have never seen you contribute anything other than "Yay, we won!" or "We lost! It's x's fault." Seeing "Tommy" in print every-other post is nauseating.

You're getting called out on it, and I still haven't seen anything as proof-positive you're anything other than obsessing over a quarterback. In Junior High, there was a girl who acted the exact same way about Troy Aikman. It disgusted me then, it disgusts me now.
Tommy tommy tommy tommy smooch smooch what a hottie butt chin omfgwhat asexy beast TOMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.

And for the record, Troy Aikman is probably the ugliest man in the NFL, next to Elway, so the girl you are talking about probably had the visual perception of Hellen Keller and/or was retarded herself.

And for the record, I usually mention Tommy in threads that have nothing to do with football. Apprently not everyone gets the running joke I have. I'll be sure to censor my comments from now on so as not to disgust you, oh high priest of the football world.

Tommy.


















TOMMY. mmmmm buttchin!!!!!!!111111111111111111111!!!1111!!1!!11 1
:rolleyes

[dmbgodagirl41]

You went to junior high with my mom?
:lol :lol

no clue why that was funny. I guess I'm just picturing you having a mom who would talk about "hottie troy aikman" or something :lol

[Rob]

You went to junior high with my mom?

Wait... Was that a "My momma" joke?

[UNC41]

:lol :lol

no clue why that was funny. I guess I'm just picturing you having a mom who would talk about "hottie troy aikman" or something :lol

Not his looks, but his ass in tight white pants.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Not his looks, but his ass in tight white pants.
HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA :lol :lorraine

That's funny and horrible all at once.

[Franchize41]

My Michael Clayton jersey arrived today... I wish this weekend wasnt a bye week

[SteelerMan]

Unfortunately, I have to be a Patsies fan this weekend when they play the Bengals. Speaking of the Bengals, here's a quote from Carson Palmer following yesterday's game that I thought was funny:

"I think we are a classy team."

Classy team??? SIX Bengals have been arrested in the past year (Odell Thurman was arrested this morning for a DUI, while he's in the middle of serving a 4 game suspension for violating the league's substance abuse policy), including Chris Henry who has been arrested FOUR TIMES since January, yet received ZERO PUNISHMENT from the team. Yeah, that's class right there. I may hate the Patriots, but I consider them to be a classy team. The Bengals, on the other hand, are this decade's version of the early 90's Cowboys (without the Super Bowl rings of course).

[boutrous11]

My Michael Clayton jersey arrived today... I wish this weekend wasnt a bye week

i knew when i drafted him in my ffball league that he sucked. i just didn't realize he sucked this bad.

[Trippin4136]

i knew when i drafted him in my ffball league that he sucked. i just didn't realize he sucked this bad.

You have to realize who is...or rather, is not throwing to him. You shouldn't be surprised he isn't posting numbers. The Bucs have scored 3 TDs all year.

[GOB_]

You have to realize who is...or rather, is not throwing to him. You shouldn't be surprised he isn't posting numbers. The Bucs have scored 3 TDs all year.

That's pretty good, seeing how they had 0 going into yesterday's game. :lol Obviously, I'd be even more concerned now.

[Trippin4136]

That's pretty good, seeing how they had 0 going into yesterday's game. :lol Obviously, I'd be even more concerned now.

oh they were shut out in week 2? I thought they got 3 points. Didn't they post 24 yesterday?

[GOB_]

oh they were shut out in week 2? I thought they got 3 points. Didn't they post 24 yesterday?

You are correct but you were talking about tds, right?

[Trippin4136]

yea...when I said they've scored 3 TDs all year I was including yesterdays game

[GOB_]

yea...when I said they've scored 3 TDs all year I was including yesterdays game

Obviously, since they hadn't scored any in the first two games - they had an offensive explosion yesterday, which was my point. :lol

[UglyNakedGuy]

Its different with NY fans, because we win. And when we LOSE, we admit we deserved to lose and we get on our teams. In Boston, its everyone else's fault. Either the refs, injuries, etc.

How does it feel to be tied with my Jets for first?

Nope.

[UglyNakedGuy]

wahhh wahhh wahhh

Keep people out of the end zone if you want to win.

And throwing the ball 50+ times isn't going to help either.

Did you watch the game?

[UglyNakedGuy]

b/c Boston fans are constantly bitching.

NY fans have egos, but you don't see pissing and moaning about our teams all the time.

I strongly disagree.

[UglyNakedGuy]

All the shit I ever read is about how hot Tom Brady is and your creepy butt-chin fetish. I have never seen you contribute anything other than "Yay, we won!" or "We lost! It's x's fault." Seeing "Tommy" in print every-other post is nauseating.

You're getting called out on it, and I still haven't seen anything as proof-positive you're anything other than obsessing over a quarterback. In Junior High, there was a girl who acted the exact same way about Troy Aikman. It disgusted me then, it disgusts me now.

Shutup.

[Rob]

Do you have a buttchin? That's the only conceivable reason I can come up with for anybody to defend her.

Quit bitching, accept the loss, and move on to Week 4. I'm looking forward to seeing how a pissed-off Brady bounces back, and you should be, too.

[Franchize41]

You have to realize who is...or rather, is not throwing to him. You shouldn't be surprised he isn't posting numbers. The Bucs have scored 3 TDs all year.

bingo... Since Simms has started Clayton's #'s have nearly flatlined, mainly because he has a man crush on Galloway I believe... Now that christmas came early his numbers should go back up.

[smudge1]

chris simms is clearly a badass.

[boutrous11]

bingo... Since Simms has started Clayton's #'s have nearly flatlined, mainly because he has a man crush on Galloway I believe... Now that christmas came early his numbers should go back up.

I'm droppin his ass as soon as someone with a pulse shows up on the waiver wire in my league.

[Franchize41]

I drafted Simms, Roethlisberger and Trent Green in my FF league.. my teams a bust already

[UglyNakedGuy]

Do you have a buttchin? That's the only conceivable reason I can come up with for anybody to defend her.

Quit bitching, accept the loss, and move on to Week 4. I'm looking forward to seeing how a pissed-off Brady bounces back, and you should be, too.

Oh, I am pissed. But you don't need to act like a jerk, and think you can talk down to everyone.

[UglyNakedGuy]

I drafted Simms, Roethlisberger and Trent Green in my FF league.. my teams a bust already

Yikes lol.

How many teams are there in this league?

[Rob]

Pot, meet kettle.

[Tiduwho]

Anyone see Brett Favre's postgame interview? He just looks SO OLD. He just needs to grow a beard and he could become Old Man Winter.

[Franchize41]

Yikes lol.

How many teams are there in this league?

10... I managed to pick up Grossman though

[Trippin4136]

Pot, meet kettle.

I didn't want to be the one to say it.

[thebigv]

10... I managed to pick up Grossman though


:lol

Is that supposed to fix your problems? ;)

[UNC41]

:lol

Is that supposed to fix your problems? ;)

I didn't say it, but it's been said.

[Franchize41]

:lol

Is that supposed to fix your problems? ;)

as long as he stays healthy(knocks on wood) its all I need right now

[thebigv]

as long as he stays healthy(knocks on wood) its all I need right now


I'd rather gamble with Roethlisberger, he'll hit his stride sometime soon and put up better numbers than grossman.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Pot, meet kettle.

Wow.

[UglyNakedGuy]

I'd rather gamble with Roethlisberger, he'll hit his stride sometime soon and put up better numbers than grossman.

Yep.

Grossman has had TWO good games, and everyone is on the bandwagon of him being awesome now.

Just like how everyone was out to kill Plummer, but he had an alright game against the Pats, and then allt he anaylists were saying how good he was, it's ridic. It's week 3 people, Grossman will come back to reality soon enough. And Ben will put up better numbers when it's all said and done.

[Franchize41]

I'd rather gamble with Roethlisberger, he'll hit his stride sometime soon and put up better numbers than grossman.

well i start two QBs so Roethlisberger is playing too...

[thebigv]

Ahh, yes, you START two QBs. I be slow.

[SteelerMan]

Just like how everyone was out to kill Plummer, but he had an alright game against the Pats, and then allt he anaylists were saying how good he was, it's ridic. It's week 3 people, Grossman will come back to reality soon enough. And Ben will put up better numbers when it's all said and done.

I've completely stopped paying attention to what analysts have to say for reasons such as this. NOBODY seems to know what they're talking about, and they basically change their mind from week to week. What amazes me is how many of these "experts" judge teams based on their records and stats without paying any attention to who they've played. Rex Grossman is an excellent example.

[GavMan33]

I'm so disappointed I missed this argument a few pages back, and while I thought about not posting about it, I think it's necessary.

I know exactly what trippin and the rest of you were talking about with that horrible arrogance about New England and their sports teams. I was born and raised in Albany, NY, a mere 40 miles from MA. So I know plenty about all the bitching and moaning that reeks from the people to Albany's east. I always felt like whenever I got on the east side of the Bershire mountains, I had to hold my breath. These Boston fans are very arrogant, and all think they know what's best for the team. New York fans have very large egos, maybe that comes from the (relatively speaking) consistent winner the city has had.

And don't worry, I'm an NBA historian, so to speak. I know that Bill Russell is the 2nd-greatest player ever to play in the NBA (save for MJ, but better than his bigtime rival Wilt Chaimberlain). I also know the Celtics of the 60s was a complete dynasty. I have a soft spot in my heart for the Bird-McHale-Parish teams of the 80s. But that doesn't change the fans of Boston. Hell, Bill Russell hated playing in Boston.

Sorry for the rant, but I must agree with the arrogance of New England....

[Tiduwho]

The Madden Curse lives on:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2602571



Shaun Alexander out indefinitely.

[UglyNakedGuy]

D. Hall is a clown..


And I love this game so far.

[Franchize41]

D. Hall is a clown..


And I love this game so far.

its been great so far... but I have it on mute now because of theismann's stupidity

[UglyNakedGuy]

its been great so far... but I have it on mute now because of theismann's stupidity

Yeah seriously..This MNF crew sucks.

Plus, I love my fantasy teams and all and love talking about it, but I don't give a damn about Tony Kornheiser's fantasy teams, so he needs to stop mentioning them during the broadcast. :lol

[Franchize41]

Yeah seriously..This MNF crew sucks.

Plus, I love my fantasy teams and all and love talking about it, but I don't give a damn about Tony Kornheiser's fantasy teams, so he needs to stop mentioning them during the broadcast. :lol

yeah I like the mention, but I didnt need to know about how badly he needed Crumpler to catch that dropped pass

[dmbmuskie]

Yeah seriously..This MNF crew sucks.

Plus, I love my fantasy teams and all and love talking about it, but I don't give a damn about Tony Kornheiser's fantasy teams, so he needs to stop mentioning them during the broadcast. :lol

Hey man, public appology for yesterday. I was in a bad mood, looking for a fight, and it escalated quickly.

The MNF football crew does suck.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Anyone still think the Falcons are a top 5 team? I never did, but alot of people jumped on their bandwagon after week TWO.

By the way, Carolina has started the SAME way they did last year, they are still the team to beat in the NFC South IMO.

[Dancing Ants]

U2 AND Green Day. ouch. sorry NO.

[paris72]

Atlanta getting shalacked

[UglyNakedGuy]

Atlanta getting shalacked

They are OK, but not a great team....very over rated throughout the first two weeks.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Atlanta getting shalacked

And I love the fact that one of the most unclassy organizations is getting shalacked.

[Tiduwho]

And I love the fact that one of the most unclassy organizations is getting shalacked.


By a team whose owner is the epitome of class. :lol

[GavMan33]

Hey man, public appology for yesterday. I was in a bad mood, looking for a fight, and it escalated quickly.

The MNF football crew does suck.

That's pretty standup my man. Out of curiosity, does your name have something to do with you being a Musketeer? As in X?

[UglyNakedGuy]

That's pretty standup my man. Out of curiosity, does your name have something to do with you being a Musketeer? As in X?

Yeah, I didn't know he apologized until you qouted him, I have him blocked.

[Dancing Ants]

Drew Brees is a real standup guy.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Drew Brees is a real standup guy.

:confused

[UglyNakedGuy]

Michael Irvin is an idiot.

I cant believe he just siad what he said "A lot of people doubted the Saints, but don't underestimate them tonight"

HE PICKED THE FALCONS TO WIN!!!!

I hate how so many of these anaylists change their minds and backtrack so much...Sean Salisbury is the worst though, he is a fucking idiot.

[UglyNakedGuy]

On a positive note, congrats to the Saints for beating the worthless birds.

[UNC41]

Anyone still think the Falcons are a top 5 team? I never did, but alot of people jumped on their bandwagon after week TWO.

By the way, Carolina has started the SAME way they did last year, they are still the team to beat in the NFC South IMO.

The Falcons were one of the five most impressive teams after the first two weeks of the season. I think those games are much more comparable than to tonight's and everything the game brought with it.

[UNC41]

On a positive note, congrats to the Saints for beating the worthless birds.

If that's the case, congrats to the Broncos for beating the worthless Pats last night.

[RJ2kWJ]

I really think Atlanta went into a losing situation no matter what.

The emotion behind that game, the team, the fans... It was impossible for them to win that game.

[UglyNakedGuy]

If that's the case, congrats to the Broncos for beating the worthless Pats last night.

Grow up.

The Broncos had that game handed to them by the refs. You didn't watch the game, your opinion is 100% moot..

Stop being a child and trying to start crap.

[UglyNakedGuy]

The Falcons were one of the five most impressive teams after the first two weeks of the season. I think those games are much more comparable than to tonight's and everything the game brought with it.

Last season started similarly to this year...

Panthers are the better team whether you wanna believe it or not.

[UglyNakedGuy]

I really think Atlanta went into a losing situation no matter what.

The emotion behind that game, the team, the fans... It was impossible for them to win that game.

Way to let the anaylists who picked AGAINST the saints form your opinion for you when they changed THEIR minds after the game. :lol

[UglyNakedGuy]

And also to you people who think Vick is so good, how'd he do tonight? :lol

What's his completion percentage on the season, 40%?

[GavMan33]

If that's the case, congrats to the Broncos for beating the worthless Pats last night.

:lol :lol