2007 Major League Baseball Season [Archive] - Page 18

UNC41

08-17-2007, 11:49 PM

its a damn good lineup if wells was having a good year... and maybe if overbay was too. and thomas could have a little more power, glaus has been injured alot too...

If every hitter in baseball was having a career year then pitching would be FUCKED!

Your mention of Troy Glaus reminds me of a fantastic story. In the spring of '06 I was in Milwaukee to cover the Frozen Four and after the bars closed we ended up hanging out in the hotel lobby of our hotel (R. Kelly couldn't make it) and the Diamondbacks arrive at about 3:00 a.m. for the second series of the season. We got booted and the obvious next move was to move to the balcony overhanging the lobby. For some reason one of the guys I was with started yelling shit about Glaus, so we all started trashing the guy. I awoke the next morning and remembered he signed with Toronto in the offseason.

crashintome202

08-17-2007, 11:54 PM

Yea and Beckett could have 20 wins already if the offense would hit the ball when he's pitching, or if the bullpen could close out games, or if the other team didn't show up...
aka if you didnt trade for gagne:lol

ProudestAnt

08-17-2007, 11:56 PM

aka if you didnt trade for gagne:lol I figure it's better that he settles in now rather than struggle in the playoffs...

UNC41

08-17-2007, 11:56 PM

crashintome202

08-17-2007, 11:58 PM

I figure it's better that he settles in now rather than struggle in the playoffs...
my feelings about mo are the same

crashintome202

08-17-2007, 11:59 PM

It hasn't been mentioned yet, but Brandon Webb's three consecutive complete game shutouts is absolutely distgusting. I'm trying to think of a more impressive feat in baseball this decade and can't come up with one.
he is so nasty. that great sinker mixed in with a great curve, throw in some crappy NL hitting teams and you've got yourself 41 IP without giving up a run

ProudestAnt

08-18-2007, 12:00 AM

Until they bring him up to the majors if the D-backs make the WS, then he'll crumble...

HolyCow

08-18-2007, 12:05 AM

Brandon Webb. Wow.

DreamingTree#41

08-18-2007, 01:26 AM

Brandon Webb. Wow.
Yea I know but i doubt he'll touch the record of 59 =[

Any Baltimore Orioles fans out here?

DreamingTree#41

08-18-2007, 01:28 AM

:lol
i gotta take sides w. crash into me. Overbay, Glaus, Wells, Thomas all solid players nevermind Alexis Rios... they all have pretty good sticks and can slap the ball around pretty well.

Tiduwho

08-18-2007, 02:00 AM

Good thing I didn't go through with my Brandon Webb trade a month two months ago.

lennon2324

08-18-2007, 12:35 PM

It hasn't been mentioned yet, but Brandon Webb's three consecutive complete game shutouts is absolutely distgusting. I'm trying to think of a more impressive feat in baseball this decade and can't come up with one.

i think he still has to go 18 more innings to tie oral...59 innings...now thats sick

SoRight24

08-18-2007, 12:36 PM

Yeah I doubt Webb will touch the Bulldog, but its still damn impressive.

He is nasty.

groton

08-18-2007, 12:38 PM

Web is one of the better young Pitchers there is

lennon2324

08-18-2007, 12:38 PM

def. could be a great pitcher through the years...if his arm stays good and he doesn't have prior/wood luck

DreamingTree#41

08-18-2007, 02:05 PM

def. could be a great pitcher through the years...if his arm stays good and he doesn't have prior/wood luck
no doubt about it...if he stays healthy and doesn't screw up his arm he will be one of the better pitchers comin thru the mlb right now

justinandimcool

08-18-2007, 02:30 PM

Brandon Webb. Wow.

:lorraine

~Crashintome89~

08-18-2007, 03:38 PM

How about those fightin' Phils?

cruscott35

08-18-2007, 05:22 PM

Maybin shitting all over Clemens, feces everywhere in Yankee stadium.

Tiduwho

08-18-2007, 06:20 PM

Lol @ Clemroids.

hearmorphish

08-18-2007, 06:39 PM

How about those fightin' Phils?
:lol the team to beat!

jdmpsu339

08-18-2007, 07:22 PM

I'm watching the Fish-Giants game. Apparently Blues Traveler is performing a concert after the game.

On a scale of 1 to 10, what sort of gig is a "show after a major league baseball game" on the prestige scale?

I say 1.5

groton

08-18-2007, 07:27 PM

nah dude its higher then that a Blues Traveler is a great band

Lcsulla

08-18-2007, 11:49 PM

Martin won 2 rings...

As a manager? I don't think he did; just the one in 77 for sure; and I could be wrong - not sure if he got one the year after. IN 78 he was replaced in July by Bob Lemon and then the Yanks caught fire. Not sure if he got a ring for his managing in the first half.

Lcsulla

08-18-2007, 11:53 PM

Maybin is going to shit all over the Yanks tonight.

He has a long bright future. I think he will end up an all star at some point. Looks good with the bat but still shaky in the OF but that is an experience issue and Yankee Stadium is not the best place to make an OF debut.

I told everyone to watch out for Buccholz and he's showing exactly why he's the best pitching prospect still in the minors today...

He is nasty, another with a VERY high ceiling. Surpised to see him this year though to be honest.

I think Clay, Phil Hughes, and Joba are going to be horses for our rivalry for a long time. All are just nasty when they are on.

~Crashintome89~

08-19-2007, 12:02 AM

:lol the team to beat!

I guess I spoke too soon. :lol

DreamingTree#41

08-19-2007, 12:04 AM

MICAH OWINGS 4-5 2 dingers double 6 rbis....oh yea...hes a pitcher for the diamond backs too

hearmorphish

08-19-2007, 12:06 AM

I guess I spoke too soon. :lol
:lolcan i call you "jimmy rollins"?

~Crashintome89~

08-19-2007, 12:10 AM

:lolcan i call you "jimmy rollins"?

Think what you want to think about that comment, and although I applaud Jimmy for trying to spice up the team and give them some flair, I don't think it was right to say that to the media. However, I'm not knocking his play, and you shouldn't either, he's definitely a MVP canidate.

hearmorphish

08-19-2007, 12:16 AM

Think what you want to think about that comment, and although I applaud Jimmy for trying to spice up the team and give them some flair, I don't think it was right to say that to the media. However, I'm not knocking his play, and you shouldn't either, he's definitely a MVP canidate.
yeah, Most Valuable Phillie

hearmorphish

08-19-2007, 12:21 AM

joking aside, he IS a great player, but honestly i wouldn't put him in for mvp. also, it is a good move to try and hype your team and everything, but shit, not like that.

cruscott35

08-19-2007, 12:22 AM

He has a long bright future. I think he will end up an all star at some point. Looks good with the bat but still shaky in the OF but that is an experience issue and Yankee Stadium is not the best place to make an OF debut.

He is nasty, another with a VERY high ceiling. Surpised to see him this year though to be honest.

I think Clay, Phil Hughes, and Joba are going to be horses for our rivalry for a long time. All are just nasty when they are on.

Maybin is playing out of position...He only made his third appearance in left EVER, including little league.

~Crashintome89~

08-19-2007, 12:26 AM

joking aside, he IS a great player, but honestly i wouldn't put him in for mvp. also, it is a good move to try and hype your team and everything, but shit, not like that.

Why don't you think he won't be considered for MVP? Have you seen his numbers? Not too shabby, not to mention his flat-out amazing defensive skills.

jcc522

08-19-2007, 12:30 AM

i like the Orioles

Lcsulla

08-19-2007, 12:34 AM

Maybin is playing out of position...He only made his third appearance in left EVER, including little league.

Yeah, I knew that so I can cut him some slack as a 20 tear old in his second game in a hostile environment. Switching positions is tough for anyone - even a superstar like A-Rod had troubles adjusting to third at times but I think he has it figured out by now. I felt bad for him because he looked lost.

AL MVP race is down to two guys IMO, Magglio and A-Rod and I have to give A-Rod the edge right now because the Yanks are about 20 games out without him, basically he means more to the Yanks than Miggy does to the Tigers,

cruscott35

08-19-2007, 12:37 AM

I'm a die hard Tigers fan, and I still think A-Rod is the MVP...Maggs in any other year, because they are lost without him too, but the Yanks were so far out.

Lcsulla

08-19-2007, 12:39 AM

I'm a die hard Tigers fan, and I still think A-Rod is the MVP...Maggs in any other year, because they are lost without him too, but the Yanks were so far out.

Didn't realize you were a Tiger fan and I know you're a borderline Yankee hater if memory serves but I agree with you and your opinion means more since you are a Tiger fan who would be making a case for Miggy if A-Rods was not having such a great year and carried the Yanks on his back for three months while they were playing awful!! Nice post bro! :)

cruscott35

08-19-2007, 12:41 AM

A Rod is unreal, what I don't get is why the Tigers aren't in the discussion for him next year. We have a need at short, and we have money, and we're good.

hearmorphish

08-19-2007, 12:52 AM

Why don't you think he won't be considered for MVP? Have you seen his numbers? Not too shabby, not to mention his flat-out amazing defensive skills.
well, i think he'll be considered, but i wouldn't put him in. offensive reasons...for #1 in AB, he's 23rd in RBI, and not even top 50 for OBP and AVG

Lcsulla

08-19-2007, 01:14 AM

A Rod is unreal, what I don't get is why the Tigers aren't in the discussion for him next year. We have a need at short, and we have money, and we're good.

Money issues maybe? I am not sure who is up for FA for them after the season to free up some payroll.

Either way; after this season I do not see opting out, fans are behind him finally and he is raking. Even if he does hit the FA market I think the Yanks will offer him what he wants and he'll be back anyhow; unless someone offers him a deal that absolutely blows this one out of the water in terms of length ans salary; and I do not see how much more he can reasonably expect in money.

Counterpoints though, the NY writers are still nitpicking him, some of the fans are still not sold, and there is the very real Scott fucking Boras issue; he is a pariah! Still I think he stays. Plus, he leaves and he will forever have the stigma of not being able to hack it when the spotlight is on. He runs from NY and that further illustrates that.

Of I had to pick the irreplaceable Yankees it is A-Rod, Posada, Jeter, and Mo. They're the glue, everyone else is a supporting cast to an extent. Though the young guys could blossom nicely; Joba, Hughes, and Kennedy have high ceilings, Clippard too may turn out well despite that they have both been set back by their call ups and bad numbers during the brief time in NY. Malky and Cano will be up for big paydays too soon and they are already both above average. Point is Yanks have a nice core now but if A-Rod leaves that is a gaping hole! I know they are free agents but I don't see Mo or Posada going to another team despite any offers, they bleed pinstripes!

junior94

08-19-2007, 01:29 AM

Man when I think about how much I used to love Roger Clemens as a baseball fan growing up, and he does shit like he did in tonight's game. This rookie hits a homerun off you (his 1st ever), and so what do you do later? You hit him.

LAME.

Clemens, you're a fucking douchebag. Because this kid bested you in one individual at-bat, he deserves to be plunked. That's real fucking mature and sportsman like. I hope you blow out your arm, and/or catch Jason Giambi's old parasite disease, or whatever the fuck that was.

hearmorphish

08-19-2007, 01:32 AM

also loved clems as a kid, but i'm not liking the clems im seeing lately.

junior94

08-19-2007, 01:36 AM

also loved clems as a kid, but i'm not liking the clems im seeing lately.

Yea and I also meant to say tonight's definitely not the first time he's ever done that. I mean that's just tantamount to being crybaby, it's pathetic.

Hell this is a guy who threw at his own kid in a father/son baseball game because he was crowding the plate. :freak

hearmorphish

08-19-2007, 01:48 AM

Yea and I also meant to say tonight's definitely not the first time he's ever done that. I mean that's just tantamount to being crybaby, it's pathetic.

Hell this is a guy who threw at his own kid in a father/son baseball game because he was crowding the plate. :freak
:lol

Lcsulla

08-19-2007, 02:11 AM

I do not think Clemens meant that to be honest. I understand pitchers will occasionally drill people after a home run but not in that situation. Winning is more important than revenge for a homer, especially for a competitor like Rocket.

Examine the realities of that situation. He hit Mabin in the 6th when it was 2-1 Yankees.Yanks were clinging to a run lead at the time against a solid offensive team. Clemens is smart enough to not intentionally hit someone that would put the tying run on second (Inge moved to scoring position after the HBP and the go ahead run on first. Granderson was coming to the plate and he is is perfectly capable of tying that game (.288, 16 HR's, and 56 RBI's) or giving Detroit the lead. No way you would rather pitch to Granderson than a rookie who had just collected his first MLB hit two innings before, it is just dumb because he is an easier out to end the inning than Granderson.

I will not argue Clemens is capable of hitting someone but I do not think that was intentional. Clemens is smart enough to recognize the situation and I think the pitch just got away; unlike Rios last week who had it coming and I am sure was intentional on Rogers part; ie hit my best player and yours is getting nailed too. Can't fault a man for sticking up for his superstar player..

Also outside the HR there is no reason to hit him. He's a rookie in his second game and this was not a game wher players were getting plunked left and right and he was protecting his players. There's just no point in throwing at him given the score, situation, and other factors involved; such as Mabin's inexperience and that it was his second MLB game. Clemens will hit someone but it is generally in retaliation. That ball was supposed to be inside and just got away from him.

Even Rocket has some errant pitches! Everyone does. I wouldn't read too much into him hitting a rookie who represented the go ahead run at first with the tying run moving up to second; and the fact that Durbin was dealing at that point and holding a pretty solid offense down. Runs were at a premium in the sixth inning of a close game with Granderson on deck to tie or take the lead with a hit. Granted the Yanks blew it open after the fact but Clemens did not know that would happen at the time so I have to assume he is smart enough to not someone intentionally in a tight game to put the go ahead run on base. He might be kind of a jerk but the man is a smart baseball player.

My take make any sense? That is how I view that, I think people are looking for intent based on Clemens last game plunking Rios (in DIRECT response to Toronto targetting A-Rod two games in a row and BOTH were intentional) - pitchers HAVE to protect their players but we all know that.
I think that people are making a mountain out of a molehill given the facts. :)

junior94

08-19-2007, 02:48 AM

Well okay even if so not tonight, and yes I totally understand that if you hit our main guy, your's is getting hit back. But I've seen Clemens hit guys for doing nothing more than a homerun before, it's not a coincidence. In fact there's one in particular a couple years ago, one player hit two or three HR in one game, and Clemens hit him. And that's even worse. Oh, I can't get you out so I'm going to drill you. :rolleyes

Lcsulla

08-19-2007, 03:32 AM

I see where you're coming from Kevin and do not disagree. I was simply stating my opinion that him hitting Mabin was probably not intentional tonight! :)

justinandimcool

08-19-2007, 04:03 AM

I can't believe I let 14 innings of my life wither away. Why do I even bother?

junior94

08-19-2007, 05:51 AM

I see where you're coming from Kevin and do not disagree. I was simply stating my opinion that him hitting Mabin was probably not intentional tonight! :)

Right on, I gotcha. I'll concede that likely it was a mistake, I didn't get the whole picture as I didn't watch the game (though I'm assuming you did), I only saw the Baseball Tonight highlights so I wasn't really aware at all of the baserunner(s) situation during that at-bat.

cruscott35

08-19-2007, 09:52 AM

Jamie, I hate to break it to you, but A-Rod is gone...He's not going to leave 10-15 Million dollars on the table just because he finally gets NY.

DreamingTree#41

08-19-2007, 10:23 AM

i like the Orioles
Hell yea finally someone. If they could change ONE thing and make a huge difference what do you think it would be?

hearmorphish

08-19-2007, 10:42 AM

Hell yea finally someone. If they could change ONE thing and make a huge difference what do you think it would be?
not familiar with the O's, but i hear the answer to that is owner/managment.

jmudmbphan

08-19-2007, 11:42 AM

Jamie, I hate to break it to you, but A-Rod is gone...He's not going to leave 10-15 Million dollars on the table just because he finally gets NY.

hes not getting 40mil+ a season....

cruscott35

08-19-2007, 11:45 AM

Boras thinks 36.

lennon2324

08-19-2007, 01:02 PM

hes not getting 40mil+ a season....

thats true but it's more like 35 and cashman already said that if a-rod opts out, he isn't even going to try to resign him since they would have 100% responsibility for his contract...right now out of the 51 he is owed, the rangers are paying for 30 of it....so it would be a tremendous hit to their payroll and he said he will not do it...another rumor i heard is that the mets are interested in posada....if he goes there i'll hang myself...i'm sure he'll stay with the yanks though considering their are 0 prospects that could take his role

gravedigger13

08-19-2007, 04:38 PM

gravedigger13

08-19-2007, 04:39 PM

Also - I had such high hopes for the Tigers this year. Every bounce went against them in the series against the Yanks. Now, we get to watch 10,000 "New Yorkers" descend upon Comerica Park next week.

Ev42

08-19-2007, 05:12 PM

Also - I had such high hopes for the Tigers this year. Every bounce went against them in the series against the Yanks. Now, we get to watch 10,000 "New Yorkers" descend upon Comerica Park next week.

:ugh. i still think the tigers will win the central

cruscott35

08-19-2007, 05:14 PM

Also - I had such high hopes for the Tigers this year. Every bounce went against them in the series against the Yanks. Now, we get to watch 10,000 "New Yorkers" descend upon Comerica Park next week.

Last year we stayed healthy and had career years from Thames, Monroe, and Inge.

Our pen is just killing us this year.

gocubsgo3822

08-19-2007, 05:49 PM

How bad are the brewers playing right now? it really is unbelieveable that this team had the best record in the NL at one point. Baseball really is a horse race. As long as you stay within a furlong or so you ahve a chance..

Couple notes from reading:

1. If A-Rod opts out he will not be back with the yankees. THe rangers are paying the yankees 25 million to wash their hands of him and the yankees would not get that money if he opts out and while yes i know that they have infinite money they wont do it because of that reason.

My predictions for playoffs:

NL 1. NYM, CHC, AZD, COR
AL 1. BOS, CLE, LAA, DET

nothing too suprising

GOB_

08-19-2007, 07:08 PM

Ascf33

08-19-2007, 09:03 PM

4 back.

sir iggius

08-19-2007, 09:04 PM

Go Tigers!

SoRight24

08-19-2007, 09:08 PM

Suicide watch....

jmudmbphan

08-19-2007, 09:17 PM

I think the yanks can overtake boston..we got 6 remaining........just a gut feeling

SoRight24

08-19-2007, 09:25 PM

I think the yanks can overtake boston..we got 6 remaining........just a gut feeling

I hope you are wrong, my friend.

crashintome202

08-19-2007, 09:50 PM

A Rod is unreal, what I don't get is why the Tigers aren't in the discussion for him next year. We have a need at short, and we have money, and we're good.
arod wont go to a pitchers park and do the tigers have 35 million for the next 8 years?

mr. testaverde

08-19-2007, 10:47 PM

The Yankees started winning when the entire team got hot. When ARod was the only one hitting, they were struggling. They showed a stat on ESPN or FOX last week that showed ARod had the lowest average of all the starters during the streak. So, Magglio for MVP.

the yanks were struggling because it was only a-rod who was hitting the ball. when 1 of your 9 players are hitting, you wont do shit. now, its 8 of 9 who are hitting the ball well, so of course you're going to win. i love how people try to find ways to trash a-rod. the guy is one of the best ball players in the game right now, if not the best, yet people look for ways to shit on him.

that said, its definitely between maggs and a-rod for mvp. a-rod needs to have a good 6 weeks between now and the end of the season to have a good shot at it.

ProudestAnt

08-19-2007, 11:14 PM

I'm really going to slit my wrists here pretty soon...

crashintome202

08-19-2007, 11:16 PM

I'm really going to slit my wrists here pretty soon...
yes the amount of sox fans is getting killed off:)

Ascf33

08-20-2007, 07:03 AM

Yanks in first by the end of August?

mr. testaverde

08-20-2007, 07:54 AM

Yanks in first by the end of August?

possibly. yanks have to win the series against the angels, and then win the series against the sox. it'll be tough, but it can be done

Ascf33

08-20-2007, 07:55 AM

3 at LA
4 at Detroit
3 Home against Boston.

It can be done.

~Crashintome89~

08-20-2007, 08:32 AM

gravedigger13

08-20-2007, 09:40 AM

I'd like to thank the Cleveland Indians for continuing to not win while the Tigers try to work through this slump.

SoRight24

08-20-2007, 10:33 AM

I'm really going to slit my wrists here pretty soon...

:thumbsup :thumbsup

:BANG

DmBand801

08-20-2007, 12:16 PM

3 at LA
4 at Detroit
3 Home against Boston.

It can be done.

that series in the bronx next week is going to be insane

Ascf33

08-20-2007, 12:19 PM

that series in the bronx next week is going to be insane

If its down to 3 games by then... oh boy.

gravedigger13

08-20-2007, 12:19 PM

I'm really going to slit my wrists here pretty soon...

Take solace in the fact that the toughest part is usually getting over the hump. The "hump" in this case is the Red Sox.

DmBand801

08-20-2007, 12:30 PM

If its down to 3 games by then... oh boy.

props to al leiter here - right before the all star break when the yanks were a .500 team, leiter said that this series at the end of august would have the yankees 1 game back when it started...he may very well be right

Ascf33

08-20-2007, 12:34 PM

props to al leiter here - right before the all star break when the yanks were a .500 team, leiter said that this series at the end of august would have the yankees 1 game back when it started...he may very well be right

I remember that. He laid out the whole month of July and August out. That would be amazing if he is right.

Lcsulla

08-20-2007, 12:39 PM

I'm really going to slit my wrists here pretty soon...

Just wait til October!

2003 ALCS: games 15-21! Series tied at 7. :)

Ascf33

08-20-2007, 12:45 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA_g_M387v0

Ignore the beany-baby and skip to 21 seconds in...

lennon2324

08-20-2007, 01:33 PM

that series in the bronx next week is going to be insane

i'll be in the right filed bleachers for the second game

Ascf33

08-20-2007, 02:03 PM

i'll be in the right filed bleachers for the second game

Nice! I'll be there games 1 & 3.

mr. testaverde

08-20-2007, 02:15 PM

i'll be in the right filed bleachers for the second game

nice! i'm jealous. the only yankee game i've been to this year is when they were up here in boston playin the bosox. the game where the sox hit 4 hr's in a row? yeah i was there. shitty game to be a yankee fan at :(

DreamingTree#41

08-20-2007, 02:40 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA_g_M387v0

Ignore the beany-baby and skip to 21 seconds in...
every sox fans worst nightmare

lennon2324

08-20-2007, 06:11 PM

good matchup in anaheim tonight...hopefully hughes show's some good stuff

ProudestAnt

08-20-2007, 06:56 PM

I hate the Angels, but goddammit we need some help since we're apparantly a piss-poor team as of late...

mr. testaverde

08-20-2007, 09:28 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA_g_M387v0

Ignore the beany-baby and skip to 21 seconds in...

i love watching that. every time i watch it i get chills.

here's a great re-enactment :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlK_ySfI5VI

ProudestAnt

08-20-2007, 10:40 PM

*Fist pump for Wakefield*

*Fist pump for d-bag Angels player that just drove in 3*

SoRight24

08-20-2007, 10:50 PM

*Fist pump for Wakefield*

*Fist pump for d-bag Angels player that just drove in 3*

Thats what I'm talkin' about!

Shut out the Rays and the Yanks are down 3-1.

:thumbsup

ProudestAnt

08-20-2007, 10:52 PM

Who the hell is this kid on the mound for the Angels? Anyone?

SoRight24

08-20-2007, 10:57 PM

Who the hell is this kid on the mound for the Angels? Anyone?

I'm not watching, but is it Moseley?

SoRight24

08-20-2007, 10:58 PM

Double post.

ProudestAnt

08-20-2007, 10:58 PM

Fucked if I know. Some kid who dominates in the first few innings then apparantly is a shithead in the later innings. Of course, i'm watching it on YES, so take that with a grain of salt...

ProudestAnt

08-20-2007, 11:04 PM

And yea, it's Moseley...

justinandimcool

08-20-2007, 11:36 PM

Jesus, Posada is still my favorite catcher ever. What a job getting Figgins out.

mr. testaverde

08-20-2007, 11:45 PM

Jesus, Posada is still my favorite catcher ever. What a job getting Figgins out.

huge play for posada to make, especially since it probably saved a run! and now with a-rod's bomb the yanks take the lead instead of possibly just tying it, had posada not tossed figgins out

DmBand801

08-20-2007, 11:48 PM

no record for jenks - joey gathright seeing-eye single to start the 9th...streak ends at 41 straight batters

Lcsulla

08-21-2007, 12:09 AM

Vlad look like he is nursing something to anyone else watching?

A-Rod owns the Angels! We need to keep winning and hope Tampa or Chicago can do us a favor.

thebestauntie

08-21-2007, 12:17 AM

Vlad look like he is nursing something to anyone else watching?

A-Rod owns the Angels! We need to keep winning and hope Tampa or Chicago can do us a favor.
I don't think so.

mr. testaverde

08-21-2007, 12:20 AM

Vlad look like he is nursing something to anyone else watching?

A-Rod owns the Angels! We need to keep winning and hope Tampa or Chicago can do us a favor.

vlad has had some back issues this year.

VanHorneDog

08-21-2007, 12:22 AM

i just threw in the towl for the Padres.

justinandimcool

08-21-2007, 12:29 AM

Dude, at least your team still has some confidence in them. My team is dead. Nobody expects to win anymore.

thebestauntie

08-21-2007, 12:31 AM

vlad has had some back issues this year.
I've always wanted to call him Vlad the Imapler. :lol Seriously, but I've never been able to tie in Impaler with baseball!

DmBand801

08-21-2007, 01:02 AM

farnsworth is letting it slip away for the yanks....

Deerock

08-21-2007, 01:04 AM

Nice "catch" off a Gary Matthews, Jr. foul ball, A-Rod! Next pitch Matthews hits a double.

Go Angels!

VanHorneDog

08-21-2007, 01:20 AM

Dude, at least your team still has some confidence in them. My team is dead. Nobody expects to win anymore.

we just lost a series to the fucking astros....

thats just... sad.

Deerock

08-21-2007, 01:53 AM

Vlad look like he is nursing something to anyone else watching?

A-Rod owns the Angels! We need to keep winning and hope Tampa or Chicago can do us a favor.

Rally monkey :monkey owns Yankees.

Good start to the series, I may go to one of the next two games.

Lcsulla

08-21-2007, 01:57 AM

Oh fuck off. Stupid shithole town and their fruity monkeys. :)

dreamingtreeIU

08-21-2007, 01:59 AM

VanHorneDog

08-21-2007, 02:01 AM

anyone know what teams usually do when a games rained out and not played the next day?? we drove 3 hrs last nite to chicago and got rained out so just tryin to figure out when the make up day or what ever happens is

you can use your tickets to go the makeup game. if their is no makeup game you may get a refund on your tickets.

if you cannot make the makeup game sell your tickets cuz they will not give you a refund.

why? cuz A-rod and Barry Zito make over a 100 million dollars.

justinandimcool

08-21-2007, 02:02 AM

What a great game.

justinandimcool

08-21-2007, 02:02 AM

we just lost a series to the fucking astros....

thats just... sad.

Well, if it makes you feel better, we lost a series to the Astros too...and the Reds. :lorraine

VanHorneDog

08-21-2007, 02:06 AM

Well, if it makes you feel better, we lost a series to the Astros too...and the Reds. :lorraine

that does actually...

i just hope the diamondbacks choke cuz we are playing 500 ball right now and are struggling but managing the 500. so if they choke we are in. however if we get hot again then BAMB! watchout.

milton bradly should be back in the lineup tomorrow. so hopefully he can keep hitting .350

oh and fuck the d'backs. what a d'bag organization.

Ascf33

08-21-2007, 07:07 AM

Back to 5GB

thebestauntie

08-21-2007, 08:27 AM

Rally monkey :monkey owns Yankees.

Good start to the series, I may go to one of the next two games.
I Love the rally monkey!!! :monkey
Oh fuck off. Stupid shithole town and their fruity monkeys. :)
:eek Jamie!! :lol

mr. testaverde

08-21-2007, 09:21 AM

I've always wanted to call him Vlad the Imapler. :lol Seriously, but I've never been able to tie in Impaler with baseball!

yeah that's what i call him. he swings so freakin violently :lol

edit: tough loss for the yankees last night. bullpen looked really shaky

thom hudson

08-21-2007, 10:49 AM

Oh fuck off. Stupid shithole town and their fruity monkeys. :)
hey - you leave Vlad and Figgins out of this. :rolleyes

crashintome202

08-21-2007, 11:38 AM

Oh fuck off. Stupid shithole town and their fruity monkeys. :)
all the beach balls that come onto the field piss me off more. its like every inning they have to stop the game so the guy can run out there and grab another beach ball. its a baseball game not a day at the beach...

thom hudson

08-21-2007, 11:52 AM

all the beach balls that come onto the field piss me off more. its like every inning they have to stop the game so the guy can run out there and grab another beach ball. its a baseball game not a day at the beach...
:lol i said almost exactly that last night when i was watching the dumb ball boy scampering off the field with a beach ball.

angel stadium is a really nice looking stadium - i would love to see a game there.

Ascf33

08-21-2007, 11:58 AM

all the beach balls that come onto the field piss me off more. its like every inning they have to stop the game so the guy can run out there and grab another beach ball. its a baseball game not a day at the beach...

Shooter McGavin:
Damn you people. Go back to your shanties. This is golf. Not a rock concert.

mr. testaverde

08-21-2007, 12:06 PM

angel stadium is a really nice looking stadium - i would love to see a game there.

i was thinking that last night :thumbsup

crashintome202

08-21-2007, 12:08 PM

:lol i said almost exactly that last night when i was watching the dumb ball boy scampering off the field with a beach ball.

angel stadium is a really nice looking stadium - i would love to see a game there.
looks like a nice stadium but i would def have a problem with the people there. especially those beach balls assholes

thom hudson

08-21-2007, 12:14 PM

i was thinking that last night :thumbsup
hopefully, we'll be playing there again in October...:D

mr. testaverde

08-21-2007, 12:43 PM

hopefully, we'll be playing there again in October...:D

haha me too, sort of. i want to see the yankees playing baseball in october, but lets be honest. the angels a)are great at home this year and b)seem to beat up on the yankees. lets just hope the angels dont make it this year! which is unlikely...

thom hudson

08-21-2007, 12:47 PM

haha me too, sort of. i want to see the yankees playing baseball in october, but lets be honest. the angels a)are great at home this year and b)seem to beat up on the yankees. lets just hope the angels dont make it this year! which is unlikely...
only team in baseball with a winning record against Joe Torre.

Lcsulla

08-21-2007, 12:49 PM

only team in baseball with a winning record against Joe Torre.

Gotta be some NL teams no?

thom hudson

08-21-2007, 12:52 PM

Gotta be some NL teams no?
my bad...i was only referring to the majors. :rolleyes

mr. testaverde

08-21-2007, 12:53 PM

only team in baseball with a winning record against Joe Torre.

yeah they're the only team that worries me

Lcsulla

08-21-2007, 12:54 PM

my bad...i was only referring to the majors. :rolleyes

:lol

Yeah, sometimes winning the NL pennant is like being valedictorian at summer school.

thom hudson

08-21-2007, 12:56 PM

:lol

Yeah, sometimes winning the NL pennant is like being valedictorian at summer school.
:lol nice

...or like being the pretty girl at fat camp.

crashintome202

08-21-2007, 01:08 PM

yeah they're the only team that worries me
all teams worry me equally thanks to the playoff format

UNC41

08-21-2007, 01:09 PM

Vlad's the man. Hands down my favorite player in baseball.

crashintome202

08-21-2007, 01:12 PM

Vlad's the man. Hands down my favorite player in baseball.
vlad is awesome. one of my favorite non-yankees

Lcsulla

08-21-2007, 01:14 PM

vlad is awesome. one of my favorite non-yankees

Yup. Gotta love how George's whim made us wine and dine Sheffield and barely give Vlad the time of day. :BANG

crashintome202

08-21-2007, 01:14 PM

Yup. Gotta love how George's whim made us wine and dine Sheffield and barely give Vlad the time of day. :BANG
i would have taken vlad in a split second over sheff but i think he didnt want to come to new york. part of the reason the mets werent too interested (plus the injuries)

UNC41

08-21-2007, 01:15 PM

vlad is awesome. one of my favorite non-yankees

I like him more than anyone on the Twins. I got tickets to the one Twins/Angels game I could make this year along the foul line in right field, specifically for Vlad, and he DH'ed. Talk about your all-time backfires ...

Lcsulla

08-21-2007, 01:17 PM

Talk about your all-time backfires ...

Umm... try paying $250 for 2004 ALCS game 7 tickets. :BANG

UNC41

08-21-2007, 01:18 PM

i would have taken vlad in a split second over sheff but i think he didnt want to come to new york. part of the reason the mets werent too interested (plus the injuries)

Vlad loves Moreno. It would have been extremely tough to pull him way from the Angels for that reason.

crashintome202

08-21-2007, 01:18 PM

Umm... try paying $250 for 2004 ALCS game 7 tickets. :BANG
wow you got screwed on that one. you shoulda spent it on the 03 ALCS game 7

UNC41

08-21-2007, 01:18 PM

Umm... try paying $250 for 2004 ALCS game 7 tickets. :BANG

You: 1
Me: 0

:lol

crashintome202

08-21-2007, 01:21 PM

going to N1 of hartford this year or seeing Arod's 500th homer? yeah i had tickets and took the show

Lcsulla

08-21-2007, 01:22 PM

wow you got screwed on that one. you shoulda spent it on the 03 ALCS game 7

I wish I did. I spent 2003 game seven shaking hands and soliciting donations to a child care center.

You: 1
Me: 0

:lol

Pretty much!

going to N1 of hartford this year or seeing Arod's 500th homer? yeah i had tickets and took the show

Did that same. Am perfectly happy with it though. That show was kick ass for me.

crashintome202

08-21-2007, 01:26 PM

Did that same. Am perfectly happy with it though. That show was kick ass for me.
yeah i would have taken the show any day of the week

still sucks to miss it though, i just knew he was going to do it the day i didnt go

mr. testaverde

08-21-2007, 01:29 PM

all teams worry me equally thanks to the playoff format

while i see what you mean, the angels are the only team that worries me when they play the yankees, simply because they have that winning record against them during the torre era. everyone else i have full confidence the yankees can beat.

DmBand801

08-21-2007, 01:53 PM

hopefully, we'll be playing there again in October...:D

if your the yankees, you don't want to be playing the Angels in october...

thom hudson

08-21-2007, 02:01 PM

if your the yankees, you don't want to be playing the Angels in october...
if im the yankees, i want to be playing ANYWHERE in october.

hearmorphish

08-21-2007, 10:14 PM

what a game. good to get that kind of win.

DmBand801

08-21-2007, 10:43 PM

what a game. good to get that kind of win.

especially against Young and Hoffman - big win :thumbsup

Tiduwho

08-21-2007, 11:58 PM

Damn Lincecum.

justinandimcool

08-22-2007, 12:04 AM

Brett Tomko needs to die. 2-11.

Tiduwho

08-22-2007, 12:18 AM

Damn Lincecum.

3 straight hits and the game is tied. Hah, wow the Giants manager is an idiot for sending him back out in the 9th.

VanHorneDog

08-22-2007, 12:58 AM

what a game. good to get that kind of win.

FUCKING HOFFMAN!!!!

oh well. too bad CY didnt have a good game. :shrug

Deerock

08-22-2007, 02:16 AM

So...anyone catch that Angels game?

Garrett Anderson was playing out of his mind...

justinandimcool

08-22-2007, 03:17 AM

Tiduwho

08-22-2007, 03:22 AM

^ Now that, was fun to watch. Truly one of the most underrated hitters in the game.

Just saw the Mets win. I would've enjoyed it, but the Padres' beige jerseys are the ugliest things I've ever seen.

Still 2.5 behind. Fuck.

Fact. Worse than the old Tampa Bay Buc jerseys.

http://stoneywageslave.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/vintagebucs.gif

justinandimcool

08-22-2007, 03:25 AM

Fact. Worse than the old Tampa Bay Buc jerseys.

http://stoneywageslave.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/vintagebucs.gif

Jesus :lorraine

Ascf33

08-22-2007, 07:00 AM

18-9.

Awesome.

hearmorphish

08-22-2007, 07:35 AM

Fact. Worse than the old Tampa Bay Buc jerseys.

http://stoneywageslave.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/vintagebucs.gif
:lol classic

mr. testaverde

08-22-2007, 08:37 AM

18-9.

Awesome.

not so much. pretty ugly if you ask me.

thebestauntie

08-22-2007, 08:41 AM

18-9.

Awesome.
Wahooo!! Who's new favorite team is the LA Angels?? :angel:angel:multi:multi

gravedigger13

08-22-2007, 09:39 AM

Now I see why Dombrowski stayed pat at the trade deadline.

Jurrjens.

Deerock

08-22-2007, 10:48 AM

Funny stat I just found out about, but the Yankee fans probably already know. Garrett Anderson's 10 RBI game against the Yankees last night was the most RBIs since A-Rod did it against the Angels on April 26, 2005 (against Bartolo Colon during his Cy Young year, no less). In that April 26 game, A-Rod could have been the first player in major league history to hit for the home run cycle, which is hitting 1-run, 2-run, 3-run homers, and a grand slam in a single game. He had already hit 2-run and 3-run homers and a grand slam (9 RBIs by itself), but he just missed hitting a solo home run when he flied out to deep center in the 8th.

thom hudson

08-22-2007, 11:03 AM

not so much. pretty ugly if you ask me.
hey, if Anderson doesnt play, we win 9-8

:rolleyes

kevinmavs

08-22-2007, 12:43 PM

the mariners are not a good team but they are just having that year....i mean seriously they ARE NOT a good team

crashintome202

08-22-2007, 01:07 PM

average players having great games against the yankees part 9454989454034312333345

garrett anderson, who's just an average player unless the game is against the yankees, has 10 rbi's in a game. joining him in todays game- choad figgins

SoRight24

08-22-2007, 01:11 PM

UNC41

08-22-2007, 01:19 PM

crashintome202

08-22-2007, 01:32 PM

Anderson isn't a Hall of Famer, but damn, he's not an average player...
at this point in his career yes he is. little power, doesnt walk, defenese dropping every game

crashintome202

08-22-2007, 01:33 PM

Are any other "average" players are hitting over .330 this year?
.752 career OPS nothing special imo

jdmpsu339

08-22-2007, 01:35 PM

at this point in his career yes he is. little power, doesnt walk, defenese dropping every game

He was always a bit overrated, even in his prime. Never a high OBP guy, he walked little, which inflated his at-bat total, which gave him high hit counts. Playing on decent teams for a good bit of his prime, he often had many RBI opportunities as well.

Definitely solid in his prime, now he is very mediocre (last night excluded of course).

~Crashintome89~

08-22-2007, 01:43 PM

I just saw this, holy shit ten RBIs?

crashintome202

08-22-2007, 01:46 PM

I just saw this, holy shit ten RBIs?
thanks again mike mussina. you are truely worthless right now

~Crashintome89~

08-22-2007, 01:47 PM

thanks again mike mussina. you are truely worthless right now

I can't wait til I see my RA, he's a huge Yankees fan. I'll be make sure to laugh in his face. :lol

crashintome202

08-22-2007, 01:48 PM

I can't wait til I see my RA, he's a huge Yankees fan. I'll be make sure to laugh in his face. :lol
wait a second, your a phillies fan right? i heard you guys were looking at mussina last month... still interested?!!!

UNC41

08-22-2007, 01:49 PM

.752 career OPS nothing special imo

It's not, but he's playing at a much higher level than that this season, and definitely not average.

FunkyTeaParty

08-22-2007, 01:50 PM

Yeah, make sure to laugh at all Yankee fans today because there is no way that can come back and bite you in the ass.

crashintome202

08-22-2007, 01:50 PM

It's not, but he's playing at a much higher level than that this season, and definitely not average.
im sorry but you just dont gain 70 points of OPS magically over 1 season. in all likely hood this strech is a fluke and he'll go back to be being an average player.

crashintome202

08-22-2007, 01:51 PM

Yeah, make sure to laugh at all Yankee fans today because there is no way that can come back and bite you in the ass.
im not going outside today, too risky in northern CT:BANG

~Crashintome89~

08-22-2007, 01:52 PM

wait a second, your a phillies fan right? i heard you guys were looking at mussina last month... still interested?!!!

Better than that fucking mexican moose called Garcia.

FunkyTeaParty

08-22-2007, 01:52 PM

crashintome202

08-22-2007, 01:53 PM

Better than that fucking mexican moose called Garcia.
ok i see we can make a deal... how about that slug you guys got at 1st base for a potential future HOFer pitcher.

~Crashintome89~

08-22-2007, 02:04 PM

ok i see we can make a deal... how about that slug you guys got at 1st base for a potential future HOFer pitcher.

Laff, if we still had Ed Wade, that deal might have gone through. :lol

cruscott35

08-22-2007, 02:36 PM

Now I see why Dombrowski stayed pat at the trade deadline.

Jurrjens.

That's who Pit wanted for Jack FUCKING Wilson.

Also, noticed how Leyland took him out after 78 pitches, and the guy had given up a whopping one hit??? He did this to ensure Zoomy came into the game and pitch 1/3 of an inning. Fuck you Leyland, you're and idiot. I'd rather have Glenn Ballard manage this team.

ProudestAnt

08-22-2007, 02:43 PM

It's a reasonable move on Leyland's part. Jurrjens is a young kid. You leave him in too long and he could get rocked, which may ruin his confidence for the rest of the season. You should know that Detroit is in the playoff race and can use all the pitching it can get. Plus, the Zumaya move is smart as well. It's his first appearance back in what, 3 months? With Rodney and Jones being solid, why rush Zumaya back into a pressure situation? Bring him in with one on and two outs, let him get the one out and be done with it. Now that Leyland knows he has control of his gas, look for him to use Zumaya more.

The way Leyland has managed and used these young arms the past 2 seasons, I can't see how anyone can question his strategy with these guys...

Matt83

08-22-2007, 08:34 PM

Texas Rangers - 30

Baltimore Orioles - 3

:ugh :lol :lol

crashintome202

08-22-2007, 08:35 PM

the rangers can beat up on the o's but the yankees cant

this is sad

Ascf33

08-23-2007, 07:20 AM

Yanks are 4-8 against the O's but 5-1 against the Rangers.... when they still had Tex

WTF?

kevinmavs

08-23-2007, 10:03 AM

being a diehard ranger fan last night was probably the only good thing that has happned to us this year besides stealing prospects from the braves and redsox

cruscott35

08-23-2007, 10:25 AM

You think that a run one game with a runner on first against a team you're 1.5 games back of isn't a pressure situation???

DmBand801

08-23-2007, 02:12 PM

This too shall pass.

Believe me the Met fans are out chirping like cicadas today. I was wondering where they all went.

Turns out most of them follow the Yankees closer than I do. Funny how none of them have said a word about their nice comeback last night.

what is there to say? Jake Peavy was dominant yet again...the phillies and braves both lost, so theres nothing to worry about. Still 5 games up and a steady 17 games over .500

DmBand801

08-23-2007, 02:13 PM

the rangers can beat up on the o's but the yankees cant

this is sad

but the yanks can beat up on tampa and kc...and the o's cant

BotheDMBFan

08-23-2007, 02:18 PM

but the yanks can beat up on tampa and kc...and the o's cant

The Orioles don't have the most expensive team in baseball.

DmBand801

08-23-2007, 02:21 PM

The Orioles don't have the most expensive team in baseball.

because they have shitty management

BotheDMBFan

08-23-2007, 02:28 PM

because they have shitty management

That or they realized that it'd just be funner to watch re-runs of The Wire.

gravedigger13

08-23-2007, 03:53 PM

I hate the Indians. I really do.

EDIT: This loss might do us in.

justinandimcool

08-23-2007, 03:57 PM

Who are you guys getting for Craig Monroe?

gravedigger13

08-23-2007, 04:03 PM

Who are you guys getting for Craig Monroe?

A player to be named later. :hump

neumdogg

08-23-2007, 04:16 PM

Hey! Dodgers decided to learn how to win. I hope it's not too late!

justinandimcool

08-23-2007, 04:30 PM

Hey! Dodgers decided to learn how to win. I hope it's not too late!

:thumbsup

I hope we at least get ourselves within a game of the Padres before we play them next Friday. We'd be lucky to take 2 of 3 from the Mets, and 2 of 3 from the Nats. Hopefully this team will surprise me. I'm giddy!

neumdogg

08-23-2007, 04:35 PM

:thumbsup

I hope we at least get ourselves within a game of the Padres before we play them next Friday. We'd be lucky to take 2 of 3 from the Mets, and 2 of 3 from the Nats. Hopefully this team will surprise me. I'm giddy!
I mean they are playing good ball right now. Phillies are known to score A LOT of runs. We kept them to a few runs this series.

cruscott35

08-23-2007, 05:40 PM

I hate the Indians. I really do.

EDIT: This loss might do us in.

No Jim Leyland might do us in. Way to let Santiago swing away with the winning run on second.

hearmorphish

08-23-2007, 07:23 PM

:thumbsup

I hope we at least get ourselves within a game of the Padres before we play them next Friday. We'd be lucky to take 2 of 3 from the Mets, and 2 of 3 from the Nats. Hopefully this team will surprise me. I'm giddy!

you guys should have a good shot at taking 2 from the nats, i hope you sweep them

DmBand801

08-23-2007, 08:13 PM

David Wells is about to be signed by the Dodgers and is slated to pitch sunday night at shea...

justink

08-23-2007, 08:38 PM

David Wells is about to be signed by the Dodgers and is slated to pitch sunday night at shea...

saw that on espn... isn't the deadline long past?

-j

DmBand801

08-23-2007, 08:48 PM

saw that on espn... isn't the deadline long past?

-j

i don't know--they said this during the mets tonight

GOB_

08-23-2007, 08:49 PM

saw that on espn... isn't the deadline long past?

-j

Waivers.

VanHorneDog

08-23-2007, 10:47 PM

man, fucking hoffman. we should have swept the mets.

man we suck.

VanHorneDog

08-23-2007, 10:48 PM

being a diehard ranger fan last night was probably the only good thing that has happned to us this year besides stealing prospects from the braves and redsox

i would like to thank you for Adrian Gonzalez and Chris Young.

keep the channels flowing.

DmBand801

08-23-2007, 10:50 PM

man, fucking hoffman. we should have swept the mets.

man we suck.

2 out of 3 isn't bad--damn't wagner

VanHorneDog

08-23-2007, 10:52 PM

2 out of 3 isn't bad--damn't wagner

hey, the jokes really on me. i have hoffman and wagner on my fantasy team. thats 3 blown saves and a bunch of runs between the 2 of them.

FUCK!!!

crashintome202

08-23-2007, 11:41 PM

being a diehard ranger fan last night was probably the only good thing that has happned to us this year besides stealing prospects from the braves and redsox
braves deal-yes.

sox deal-not so much. gabbard is the only real prospect and he's a #4

ProudestAnt

08-24-2007, 12:20 AM

You think that a run one game with a runner on first against a team you're 1.5 games back of isn't a pressure situation??? With 2 out in the 7th? No, it's not a pressure situation. And why are you bitching so much about Leyland? It's not like he's Grady Liddle for shit's sake...

ProudestAnt

08-24-2007, 12:56 AM

So my once stud pitching staff has officially ruined my fantasy season...

justinandimcool

08-24-2007, 01:09 AM

David Wells > nothing

ProudestAnt

08-24-2007, 01:12 AM

David Wells > nothing David Wells = Best big game pitcher in the business. Possibly ever...

Lcsulla

08-24-2007, 01:15 AM

David Wells = Best big game pitcher in the business. Possibly ever...

John Smoltz, Whitey Ford, Bob Feller, Bob Gibson, Mariano Rivera, and El Duque are saying hi; among others! :)

~Crashintome89~

08-24-2007, 01:16 AM

David Wells is a fantastic pitcher still. He's just struggling.

ProudestAnt

08-24-2007, 01:19 AM

John Smoltz, Whitey Ford, Bob Feller, Bob Gibson, Mariano Rivera, and El Duque are saying hi; among others! :) Starting pitchers only please. And give me until tomorrow to gather my ammo and I'll be back...

Lcsulla

08-24-2007, 01:22 AM

Starting pitchers only please. And give me until tomorrow to gather my ammo and I'll be back...

Okay, so just scratch Mo from my list. Should have been more specific like I was with the rings question! :evil

:lol

ProudestAnt

08-24-2007, 01:25 AM

Okay, so just scratch Mo from my list. Should have been more specific like I was with the rings question! :evil

:lol I'll give you Mo as the best big game closer ever...

Lcsulla

08-24-2007, 01:30 AM

I'll give you Mo as the best big game closer ever...

Fair enough - but honestly is there even a debate about that? Rivalry aside - just pure baseball opinion ignoring the uniform. IMO not too many guys are near the same ballpark as him in that discussion!

justinandimcool

08-24-2007, 01:32 AM

David Wells = Best big game pitcher in the business. Possibly ever...

I'll take your word for it. I'm hoping for the best, we need him now more than ever.

ProudestAnt

08-24-2007, 01:33 AM

Fair enough - but honestly is there even a debate about that? Rivalry aside - just pure baseball opinion ignoring the uniform. IMO not too many guys are near the same ballpark as him in that discussion! I could make a case for Hoffman as a closer in general, but since he's never been in any big games, can't really argue for him in this case...

Lcsulla

08-24-2007, 02:02 AM

I could make a case for Hoffman as a closer in general, but since he's never been in any big games, can't really argue for him in this case...

98 WS when Brosuis torched him for a 3 run bomb to center to give us the win in game 3! :)

ProudestAnt

08-24-2007, 02:04 AM

98 WS when Brosuis torched him for a 3 run bomb to center to give us the win in game 3! :) He's played in 12 postseason games compared to Mo's 73, hardly a comparison...

seekup41nancies

08-24-2007, 02:05 AM

Not happy about the double header tomorrow in Chi, thats for sure

ProudestAnt

08-24-2007, 02:08 AM

Not happy about the double header tomorrow in Chi, thats for sure Beckett in game one makes me feel better about it...

seekup41nancies

08-24-2007, 03:24 AM

Beckett in game one makes me feel better about it...

Yeah I'm pumped about that. Double headers take a hell of a toll on a team though

crashintome202

08-24-2007, 10:39 AM

David Wells = Best big game pitcher in the business. Possibly ever...
if i was taking 1 pitcher in the playoffs it would be schilling. a freakin 2 era in the postseason is unreal.

Lcsulla

08-24-2007, 11:50 AM

if i was taking 1 pitcher in the playoffs it would be schilling. a freakin 2 era in the postseason is unreal.

2 guys I'd take before him:

John Smoltz: 15-4 2.65 (207 IP)
Bob Gibson: 2-1 1.89 (81 IP)

Whitey Ford's numbers would look much better too with some run support. 10-8 2.71 (132 IP)

anyhow, game 7 World Series I want John Smoltz starting.

crashintome202

08-24-2007, 12:15 PM

2 guys I'd take before him:

John Smoltz: 15-4 2.65 (207 IP)
Bob Gibson: 2-1 1.89 (81 IP)

Whitey Ford's numbers would look much better too with some run support. 10-8 2.71 (132 IP)

anyhow, game 7 World Series I want John Smoltz starting.
lol gibson has an era under 2 and is only 2-1.
still schilling numbers are better than 2 of those guys plus whitey played in a much more pitchers era.

other than gibson, i'll take schilling. dont forget one of those bad starts the guy could barely throw.

Lcsulla

08-24-2007, 12:29 PM

lol gibson has an era under 2 and is only 2-1.
still schilling numbers are better than 2 of those guys plus whitey played in a much more pitchers era.

other than gibson, i'll take schilling. dont forget one of those bad starts the guy could barely throw.

How about this guy:

8-1, 112 IP, 0.80 era, 70 hits, 15 walks, 2 HBP's, 87 K's!

Most dominant postseason pitcher ever! :)

hearmorphish

08-24-2007, 02:01 PM

....lowest WHIP: (0.754) + most saves: (34)

also, pitching aside, I didn't realize what a postseason monster Bernie is

Lcsulla

08-24-2007, 02:28 PM

Yeah, his WHIP and saves are great too but the record and ERA really jump out at you.

Yeah, Bernie was solid in most postseasons, though he did have a few series where he was in the toilet; 2000 WS comes to mind right away, he stunk! He holds a lot of postseason records but I am guessing Jeter will break all but doubles and Manny will probably end up hitting more HR's - but I doubt anyone touches his RBI record for quite some time. Still Bernie did indeed have a great postseason career.

Only postseason record I don;t see anyone ever breaking is Mantle's 18 WS HR's.

hearmorphish

08-24-2007, 02:36 PM

Only postseason record I don;t see anyone ever breaking is Mantle's 18 WS HR's.

:lol thats sick

Lcsulla

08-24-2007, 02:40 PM

:lol thats sick

Yeah, it is amazing! Like I said, I doubt anyone breaks it - it is just too tough to play in enough World Series' these days with the three tier playoff format

VanHorneDog

08-24-2007, 04:17 PM

John Smoltz, Whitey Ford, Bob Feller, Bob Gibson, Mariano Rivera, and El Duque are saying hi; among others! :)

um.... how the hell is he in your list? hahah

but really, i am a padres fan and when they said wells was being released i was sad. he has thrown some really good games for us this year.

i remember one i went to where he threw 7 scoreless and when he went off he got a standing ovation. it was great.

true he gave up like a billion runs to the cardinals the game before he was cut. but honestly even at his current age Wells makes any pitching staff better.

WHY? becuase he knows how to make that ONE pitch to get out of an inning. and he does it. he is a big pitch pitcher, a big inning pitcher and big game pitcher and he rubs off.

personlly, i think he should be in the hall.

200 + wins
perfect game (drunk too, i mean fuck'n A)
he has rings
one of the best big game pitchers in recent history
had a LONG career.

crashintome202

08-24-2007, 04:20 PM

wells is hall of very good not hall of fame

Lcsulla

08-24-2007, 04:21 PM

um.... how the hell is he in your list? hahah

He is certainly one of the most effective pitchers ever in bug games.

Wells should not be in the hall, he was not elite. Only active pitchers that belong in the hall RIGHT NOW are Clemens, Maddux, Glavine, Johnson, Smoltz, Martinez, Rivera, and Hoffman. Wells may get in if they dumb down the criteria a bit because guys get less starts but that opens the door for other borderline guys like Mussina and Schilling.

Wells biggest asset as a pitcher is that he walked virtually no one!

Also, he was hungover for his perfect game, not drunk.