2007 Major League Baseball Season

[DmBand801]

the thing is the orioles will be just like they were the last 5 years...crappy

tejada is as good as gone but if they build their team around pitching it looks like they could have something in the next few years.

they do have a beautiful ballpark though....

--how many years are left on Tejada's deal?

[brydro]

Whoops, our future owner is a lush...Terrific.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2767251

[Trippin4136]

I guess he got a little overexcited about pitchers and catchers reporting.

[devilandthelord]

Fuck that stupid dick, Keith Foulke!

[Trippin4136]

You're better off man. Foulke sucks.

[TGaucho]

looks like there are still 2 or 3 spots open in the Ant Fantasy League. This is me droppin' a line in here . . all of you have been notified. PM or email me, or post here or in the Fantasy Baseball Registration thread, and i'll send along the info you'll need to sign up your team. ooooohhhh, i'm already fucking psyched for this season . . mmmmmmm humm baby it's gonna be good!

ps - i don't believe we have an Ants mod yet. Any mod baseball fans? Bueller?

[Tiduwho]

You're better off man. Foulke sucks.

I was saying this 2 years ago! And everyone just kept saying "don't worry, he'll get better".

[TGaucho]

looks like there are still 2 or 3 spots open in the Ant Fantasy League. This is me droppin' a line in here . . all of you have been notified. PM or email me, or post here or in the Fantasy Baseball Registration thread, and i'll send along the info you'll need to sign up your team. ooooohhhh, i'm already fucking psyched for this season . . mmmmmmm humm baby it's gonna be good!

ps - i don't believe we have an Ants mod yet. Any mod baseball fans? Bueller?


we just had a guy drop out, so there are still a few spots. so, bumpitty bump bump bump :rolleyes (as i said in the other thread, this will be the last notice i throw out here for some time, so if you're interested in playing in the Ants league that's just starting up, let me know).

[crashintome202]

ill join in

[ProudestAnt]

Yea why not, count me in. Yankees preview goes up tomorrow!

[JeffDMB41PT]

First, fortunately or unfortunately, depending on who you are, I learned last year that a lot that goes on in here is Yankees/Red Sox debate. Some of it is pretty tasteful, pointing over toward Ryan (ProudestAnt). Other times, it gets pretty rough in here.

In terms of the Tigers and their staff, we'll see. I don't think it's possible for them to be as dominant as they were last year, and then all of a sudden be awful a year later. Like I said earlier, I can see Kenny Rogers breaking down a bit. But the rest of them should be good to go. And they were damn good last year....

yea, I have noticed this too. Thats why I don't post much about baseball on here cause I couldnt care less about either of those teams and Ive come to find out that the majority of the people on this board feel the same way about the tigers.

On the matter of the Tigers staff, they are a legitimate staff and whatever happens, Im pretty confident they won't be awful. I agree about Kenny rogers. I mean he was stellar last season but you gotta think its just a matter of time before he cant compete on the same level anymore. That being said though, I as well as the whole city of Detroit from what I saw and heard at Tigerfest has never been this pumped up for the mlb season to start. On top of that, Leyland said, during a conference with the fans at Tigerfest as well, that he has never seen a team so pumped up about getting back out there. I heard the other day that even though the entire team was not required to show up to spring training until this comming teusday, 90% of the organization showed up to lakeland the same day that the pitchers and catchers had to be there. It sounds liek the boys are ready to go, it should be an interesting year

[Tiduwho]

How many games do the Cubbies win this year?

[DMBtheStoned]

How many games do the Cubbies win this year?


From a Cubs fan = 90

[VanHorneDog]

How many games do the Cubbies win this year?

from a non cubs fan, 80.

[zdaddy]

How many games do the Cubbies win this year?
Doesnt matter, Brewers will own them:hump

[Dave Matthews]

what happened to the team summaries in this thread?

[ProudestAnt]

what happened to the team summaries in this thread? I've been bed-ridden by the flu the past couple of days, but I'm up now and will post the Yanks and possibly finish the AL East tonight. Also, those who I spoke with about doing an Ants Pay-Fantasy League, PM me and I'll get info to you...

[nolan8or]

im not gonna try and read through this thread, but in today in the usa today there's an article about how this season the players' hats are going to be made out of a different material. looks like they aren't wool anymore. also the underside of the bill is going to be black now instead of grey, so it can fend off the glare of the sun better.

[ProudestAnt]

New York Yankees
Summary: The division keeps getting better, but the Yanks keep finding a way to win. 9 straight makes it very difficult to bet against them this year. They limited their spending this year by shying away from Ted Lilly when he asked for $40 mil and backing off Gil Meche, Vicente Padilla and Jason Schmidt when their pricetags went up. They're not frugal, as their payroll is still significantly the highest in the bigs, but Cashman as apparently found some restraint. He wants to build the farm system. Their lineup? Easily one of the best in the past 40 years and possibly one of the best in history. There's no break in the lineup. With Jeter hitting between Damon and Abreu, he'll be another MVP candidate this year. A-Rod may have issues in the playoffs, but he doesn't have problems getting there. He still produces runs and I'd still take him on my team. Cano is the real deal and he started showing that last season, expect more of the same this season. Barring injury, they'll have the best lineup in the game this year. However, the same cannot be said for their pitching. They'll score runs, but the question is can they keep the opponents from scoring runs? Everyone in their lineup has question marks. Will Mussina's years of arm problems finally catch up to him? What's up with Pettite's elbow? You know, the one that had him considering retirement before his mid-30s. Igawa was slated as a reliever by most scouts, so can he handle the load of a starter? Does Pavano even want to be in pinstripes? Wang is the best bet to succeed, but the question is can he repeat what he did last year? The bullpen has the same questions, but the most glaring one is Rivera, who showed signs of wear last year. He's 37 and, if he's in decline, there are major problems in the Bronx. I don't believe for a second that Rivera is done as a closer, but one can't deny the decline he showed last season.
Prediction: Tough to bet against them, but if the questions in their rotation and bullpen aren't answered, it's difficult to believe they can win the division.
You may not know his name, but you will (Impact Rookie): Phil Hughes (duh), RHP (6-5, 220) - This kid's the real deal. Last season he was 12-6 with a 2.16 ERA, a 4.9 K/BB ratio, 10.4 Ks per game and a .179 opponents' average between AA and A ball. He's got an overpowering fastball, which he can throw with two and four seams. He has a hole in his offspeed delivery when he alters his three-quarters slot for his curveball and slider, which can tip off great hitters like Man-Ram, Miggy, and the like, but that can be worked on.
Down on the Farm (Top Prospects):
1. Phil Hughes, RHP: Big league frame and great arm action should prevent concerns about injury problems, but he'll need to pitch more innings (limited to 80 pitches per start last season)
2. Humberto Sanchez, RHP: Two solid breaking pitches, excellent arm strength and command (2.7 K/BB) and rings up Ks (9.4 Ks per game). 10-6 with a 2.63 ERA last season between AAA and AA.
3. Jose Tabata, OF: Great power and speed prospect with an aggressive hitting approach. Only had 319 ABs last season, but still hit .298.
4. Joba Chamberlain, RHP: Dominated the Hawaiian Fall League with a great slider and solid head (96 mph). Suffered knee and elbow injuries in college, but he seems to be over them now.
5. Christian Garcia, RHP: Excellent movement and pinpoint command (3.8 K/BB). Missed a lot of time last season with a strained oblique, but still had a 3.46 ERA in 41 innings.
6. Dellin Betances, RHP: First-round talent who slid because scouts thought he'd be tough to sign. 6-9 makes him very imposing on the mound. 1.16 ERA in 23 innings of rookie ball.
7. Kei Igawa, LHP: Slated to open the season in the starting rotation. He's got a great changeup, fastball movement and command (4.0 K/BB). 14-9 with a 2.97 ERA in Japanese ball last season.
8. Ian Kennedy, RHP: Four pitches and excellent command could allow him to reach AA ball in his first professional season.
9. Tyler Clippard, RHP: Keeps winning despite pedestrian stuff. 12-10 with a 3.35 ERA in AA ball. He succeeds through his impressive command (3.2 K/BB) and repeatable delivery.
10. JB Cox, RHP: Fantastic groundball pitcher who is tough on right-handed batters. 1.75 ERA and held hitters to a .196 BA in short relief in AA ball.

[crashintome202]

tabata is without a doubt the 2nd best prospect the yankees have...
i haven't heard anything about hughes' arm slot changing when throwing curves. and he dropped the slider

[crashintome202]

kennedy over clippard?

[ProudestAnt]

I put Tabata 3rd because he's young. And I put Kennedy over Clippard because he's young with 4 pitches and Clippard doesn't have anything special in his arsenal. If Hughes dropped the slider, it means he's returning to his normal arm slot which favors the curveball, but makes it difficult for him to get under his slider...

[crashintome202]

I put Tabata 3rd because he's young. And I put Kennedy over Clippard because he's young with 4 pitches and Clippard doesn't have anything special in his arsenal. If Hughes dropped the slider, it means he's returning to his normal arm slot which favors the curveball, but makes it difficult for him to get under his slider...
he is young but you also have dellin in there. Clippard has amazing command, arguably better than hughes.
coming outta of high school, the yankee rule is no sliders. so they dropped the slider and made hughes work on his curve. after a few years, hughes became so comfortable with the curve that they just decided 1 breaking ball was enough.

[ProudestAnt]

he is young but you also have dellin in there. Clippard has amazing command, arguably better than hughes.
coming outta of high school, the yankee rule is no sliders. so they dropped the slider and made hughes work on his curve. after a few years, hughes became so comfortable with the curve that they just decided 1 breaking ball was enough. I'm not going to argue with you about prospects. As I said before I started these, they're my opinions. If you don't agree, that's fine, but I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you because you're offended by what I said about your team...

[Trippin4136]

I disagree with your the idea that Rivera suffered a decline last year. Yes, he had an injury that worried the Yankees, but he still pitched in 63 games last year, down only eight from 2005.

Rivera compiled a 1.80 ERA, 55/11/3 K/BB/HR ratio. He was 5-5, but he has only 3 blown saves, 15 ER in 75 IP. To me, I really don't see a decline. What, he accumulated 3 blown saves instead of 1? or 2? Rivera's only question is age, when age is always a question for a 37 year old pitcher. Also considering he is in fact the greatest closer of all time, at 37, it is easier now to ask "when" instead of "if". As far as I'm concerned, despite an injury the Yankees were overly cautious with, I have no reason to believe his performance will slip that dramatically, if at all.

I enjoyed your review. It has energized me and excited me to cover these guys in the spring.

[crashintome202]

I'm not going to argue with you about prospects. As I said before I started these, they're my opinions. If you don't agree, that's fine, but I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you because you're offended by what I said about your team...
im not offended, im just offering other opinions:)
good article overall though

[Tiduwho]

Doesnt matter, Brewers will own them:hump


Can't wait to make a venture up to Wrigley North this year. Good times. :thumbsup

[gravedigger13]

I haven't been on this thread in awhile, so you guys might have already discussed this, but what are your predictions for the 2007 season?

You can keep it simple - ALCS, NLCS, World Series.

EDIT: Also - Me and a few buddies are starting our baseball road trip this summer. Since getting to all of the stadiums in one summer is impossible, we're going to break it out into mini-trips. This summer we're seeing Cincinnati, Cleveland and Pittsburgh.

[brydro]

Great opinion Ryan, but Kei Igawa as a prospect? That list looked a lot like Lindys 2007 Review book for Yankee prospects. I just dont get how people see him as a prospect, he is 27..

[ProudestAnt]

Great opinion Ryan, but Kei Igawa as a prospect? That list looked a lot like Lindys 2007 Review book for Yankee prospects. I just dont get how people see him as a prospect, he is 27.. It's his first year in the bigs, which technically makes him a prospect (no one knows what he can do in the majors)...

[Trippin4136]

So than a spade is a spade and Matsuzaka is a prospect...a $100 million prospect

[brydro]

It's his first year in the bigs, which technically makes him a prospect (no one knows what he can do in the majors)...

Then that is my only gripe about that review, otherwise I thought it was well written. If Igawa is a prospect because it is his first year in the bigs, then Dice-K should have been on the red sox prospect list for it is his first year in the bigs and no one knows what he can do in the majors. ;)

I still think it was a well written review, and I like everything else that you wrote.

[ProudestAnt]

I agree, and I debated putting D-Mat on the prospect list. I just couldn't bring myself to put a $100 mil man on a prospect list...

[brydro]

I agree, and I debated putting D-Mat on the prospect list. I just couldn't bring myself to put a $100 mil man on a prospect list...

:lol Understood.

[kevinmavs]

are there any slots left for the ants fantasy league

[TGaucho]

are there any slots left for the ants fantasy league

no, sorry. i heard tell of another one starting up, but i don't know who's in charge of it. wish i could help you out.:shrug if someone drops out of ours before the draft, i'll send you a PM

[Ascf33]

I haven't been on this thread in awhile, so you guys might have already discussed this, but what are your predictions for the 2007 season?

You can keep it simple - ALCS, NLCS, World Series.

ALCS: Yankees vs. Red Sox
NLCS: Cardinals vs. Dodgers
WS: Yankees vs. Dodgers

2007 Champions: Yankees

<~~~~~ HOMER

[harryhoudini]

alcs: yankees vs. tigers
nlcs: phillies vs. dodgers
ws: yankees vs. phillies

champs: phils

if the phillies find a set up man or someone emerges as one, they are one of the best teams on paper. however, paper doesn't amount to much on the field, and so it will be great to see how the season pans out.

[TGaucho]

ALCS: Yankees vs Red Sox
NLCS: Giants vs Mets
WS: Giants vs Yankees

champs: Giants

<<<< also a homer :D

[~Crashintome89~]

alcs: yankees vs. tigers
nlcs: phillies vs. dodgers
ws: yankees vs. phillies

champs: phils

if the phillies find a set up man or someone emerges as one, they are one of the best teams on paper. however, paper doesn't amount to much on the field, and so it will be great to see how the season pans out.


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[Ascf33]

I really think the Dodgers will be good this year.

[harryhoudini]

I really think the Dodgers will be good this year.

i agree, they have one of the best rotations in baseball, and a young team that keeps getting better.

[crashintome202]

alcs: yankees vs. tigers
nlcs: phillies vs. dodgers
ws: yankees vs. phillies

champs: phils

if the phillies find a set up man or someone emerges as one, they are one of the best teams on paper. however, paper doesn't amount to much on the field, and so it will be great to see how the season pans out.
phillies ALWAYS find a way to underachieve and not make the playoffs.

[Trippin4136]

I think the NL East this year is ripe for the Phillies picking. They just have to find a way not to trip over their own feet.

[DMBtheStoned]

The Royals will win it all..mark my words.

[harryhoudini]

phillies ALWAYS find a way to underachieve and not make the playoffs.

I think the NL East this year is ripe for the Phillies picking. They just have to find a way not to trip over their own feet.

i agree, thats why i said on paper. we'll see.

[DmBand801]

phillies ALWAYS find a way to underachieve and not make the playoffs.

:thumbsup

[Trippin4136]

Of course it could be just b/c they play in Philadelphia

[crashintome202]

Of course it could be just b/c they play in Philadelphia
true. it can't help if you're always getting booed at home

[ProudestAnt]

I'll post my full playoff predictions after my summaries are done, Tampa and Toronto will go up late tonight, but I'll do my WS predictions now:

Dodgers v. Red Sox (Dodgers in 6)

Homer, but I really think the Dodgers can win it and will win it this year...

[TGaucho]

i agree, they have one of the best rotations in baseball, and a young team that keeps getting better.

:lol :lol :lol luis gonzalez, jeff kent, nomar, jason schmidt, elmer dessens, mike lieberthal, derek lowe, marlon anderson, ramon e. martinez, brett tomko, olmedo saenz:lol :lol :lol

[crashintome202]

:lol :lol :lol luis gonzalez, jeff kent, nomar, jason schmidt, elmer dessens, mike lieberthal, derek lowe, marlon anderson, ramon e. martinez, brett tomko, olmedo saenz:lol :lol :lol
they also have one of the best farm systems in baseball

[Ascf33]

and play in the NL West.

[ProudestAnt]

:lol :lol :lol luis gonzalez, jeff kent, nomar, jason schmidt, elmer dessens, mike lieberthal, derek lowe, marlon anderson, ramon e. martinez, brett tomko, olmedo saenz:lol :lol :lol
They have an ungodly number of like 16 (maybe an overstatement, but it's in that range) of the top 50 prospects in baseball. They're a solid young team. And the youngsters are learning from the old guard of solid starters that you laugh about...

[TGaucho]

They have an ungodly number of like 16 (maybe an overstatement, but it's in that range) of the top 50 prospects in baseball. They're a solid young team. And the youngsters are learning from the old guard of solid starters that you laugh about...

:lol :lol :lol luis gonzalez, jeff kent, nomar, elmer dessens, derek lowe, marlon anderson, ramon e. martinez, brett tomko, olmedo saenz :lol :lol :lol


ok, but seriously, i watch a lot of AAA baseball because the Oakland A's AAA is The Sacramento Rivercats, and so yeah, i know the dodgers have a pretty good farm system, but prospects don't always pan out don't-ya-know. the reaon they're called prospects, in fact, is that they have yet to be tested in The Show and have the backing of a few scouts as being major league material; and lot's of prospects do not a world series title make. sure that probably bodes well for them in the future, assuming the GM doesn't blow it and they can avoid catastrophic injuries and whatnot. but as it relates to this season, how many of Baseball America's top prospects are in the dodgers farm system is unlikely to have a major impact (unless they make a big trade before the deadline with some of those prospects, which still may not help them win). i'm not saying that the dodgers are crap this year, that would be retarded and delusional . . but i don't think they're one of the best teams in baseball either . . but whatever, obviously there's going to be a aggree-to-disaggree situation here, and the only real solution is to wait and see who's right. we'll see, we'll see.:cool

[Ascf33]

Figured everyone could enjoy this.... :lol



http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=gallo/070220

When they were bedroom buddies ...
By DJ Gallo
Page 2

"The reality is there's been a change in the relationship of 14 years and, hopefully, we can just put it behind us. You go from sleeping over at somebody's house five days a week, and now you don't sleep over. It's just not that big of a deal."
-- Alex Rodriguez, commenting on how his friendship with Derek Jeter has cooled over the years


Ah … sleepovers. Those were the days. Watching scary movies, roasting marshmallows, playing video games all night long.

Oh, to be 12 years old again. Or -- oh, to be a famous professional athlete, because apparently Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter had sleepovers together well into adulthood.


But what were those sleepovers like? What do the two biggest stars in baseball do together during a slumber party? Here's a brief look at the sleepover history between Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter:


1994: Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter have their first sleepover together while still in their late teens. The duo stays up all night telling each other scary stories about spending their careers on small-market teams with low payrolls.


1995: During yet another sleepover, A-Rod and Jeter get bored and play dress-up in Jeter's mother's clothing, jewelry and makeup. It is then that Jeter falls in love with fragrances and decides he will one day release a scent of his own, while Rodriguez secretly steals all of Mrs. Jeter's purple lipstick.


1996: A-Rod and Jeter get in a good-natured pillow fight during a sleepover at Rodriguez's Seattle apartment. They stop midway through and decide to never pillow-fight again because it really messes up their hair.


1997: Jeter invites A-Rod over to his apartment for an offseason sleepover. After a few hours they decide to show each other tricks that they can do. Rodriguez impresses Jeter with a card trick and a short juggling routine, while Jeter blows his friend's mine by displaying all of his intangibles.


1998: During a cold, winter night in New York, Jeter and A-Rod rent scary movies to watch at Jeter's apartment and then pop some popcorn and stretch out in their sleeping bags on the living room floor. Midway through the first movie they decide it would be OK to watch from the same sleeping bag for extra warmth and security.


1999: Rodriguez invites Jeter over for a New Year's Eve sleepover. Worried the world could end due to Y2K, the duo decides to get their tips frosted so if they die, they die looking as handsome as possible.


2000: Rodriguez has Jeter over for a sleepover to celebrate his 10-year, $252 million contract. The two roast marshmallows over burning $1, $5, $10, $20 and $50 bills A-Rod says he no longer has any use for.


2001: Up to no good during a sleepover at A-Rod's place in Texas, the pair prank-calls fellow superstar shortstop Nomar Garciaparra and asks him if his refrigerator is running. Garciaparra says it is, and then a giggling Jeter and A-Rod tell him he should go catch it -- upon which Garciaparra tears his hamstring.


2002: Angered that Rodriguez spoke somewhat poorly of him in an Esquire article, Jeter invites Rodriguez over to his apartment for a sleepover, but purposely doesn't stock his fridge with A-Rod's beloved Zima.


2003: A further rift develops in the relationship when Jeter has a sleepover and doesn't include Rodriguez, but instead plays host at his Manhattan apartment all night long to a dozen Sports Illustrated swimsuit models.


2004: In A-Rod's first season in New York, he invites Jeter over to a sleepover with several of his high-stakes, underground poker buddies. Rodriguez then loses Jeter in a game of Texas hold 'em. He is able to win him back, however, by promising to throw every playoff series he ever plays in for the rest of his career.


2005: The relationship between the two becomes even more fractured during a sleepover game of Truth Or Dare. Jeter dares Rodriguez to drive in a meaningful run once in his Yankees career, prompting Rodriguez to ask Jeter to admit the truth that no one would have ever heard of him had he played his career in a city like Kansas City or Milwaukee instead of New York.


2006: Following the Yankees' shocking playoff elimination at the hands of the Detroit Tigers, A-Rod sleeps over at Derek Jeter's apartment for the last time. (Technically, this sleepover was not at Jeter's apartment but outside of it, as Rodriguez fell asleep on Jeter's doorstep after crying and wailing for several hours about how he was "so sorry" about hitting 1-for-14 and asking Jeter to "please let me in and tell me you'll still be my friend.")

[kevinmavs]

the part about garciaparra tearing his hamstring was pretty funny...and while i'm here

AL West: Angels
AL East: Yankees
AL Central: White Sox
Wildcard: Rangers....don't laugh i'll never not pick them

NL West: Dodgers
NL East: Phillies
NL Central: Cards
NL Wildcard: Mets

Angels vs. White Sox.....white sox
Rangers Vs. Yankees......rangers
Dodgers vs. Mets.......dodgers
Cards vs. Phillies.....phillies

White Sox vs. Rangers
Dodgers Vs. Phillies

Rangers Vs. Phillies

TEXAS RANGERS 2007 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS



don't laugh we have the buck showalter curse to back us up this year

[VanHorneDog]

you picked the dodgers!?!?!?!?

honestly... the padres own the dodgers.

[Ascf33]

you picked the dodgers!?!?!?!?

honestly... the padres own the dodgers.

I got the Dodgers over the Cards in the NLCS as well.

[Trippin4136]

The Dodgers are definitely the hot pick right now.

[neumdogg]

The Dodgers are definitely the hot pick right now.
We are gonna be so damn good this year. The season needs to start already!

[VanHorneDog]

The Dodgers are definitely the hot pick right now.

dont worry they will choke... i mean how they hell did they loose a 4 game lead with like 2 weeks to go while winning their last 7?

thats right cuz teh padres owned them.

anyway heres a breakdown.

offensivly

1B Garciapara/Gonzalez - Garciapara, but this could change easily during the year
2B Kent/Giles - Ill go with kent, but he is old injuries can kill
SS Furcal/Greene - its all about health, they stay healthy greene wins easy
3B Betemit/Kuozmanoff - i have no idea who either of these guys are, tie
C Martin/Bard - Bard
LF Gonzalez/Sledge - Gonzalez, but Sledge is fully healthy and there is a reason frank robinson is high on him.
CF Pierre/Cameron - Cameron
RF Etheir/Giles - Giles, but like sledge etheir could establish himself, he has a lot of upside

so the score in that area padres 4-3 with a tie at 3rd, which it may come down to.

defense

1B - Gonzalez - watch him play, you will see
2B - Kent
SS - Greene
3B - N/A
LF - Sledge, more range, faster, better arm gonzalez is too old
CF - Cameron - he didnt win the gold glove last year on a random drawing
RF - Giles
C - Martin - bard isnt really that great.

score padres 5-2 with tie at 3rd

Rotation

1 Peavy/Schmidt - Peavy
2 Young/Lowe - Young
3 Maddux/Penny - Penny
4 Hensly/Wolf - Hensly
5 Wells/Billingsly - Wells

4-1 padres

Pen (ill take best 3)

closer: Hoffman/Saito - Hoffman
Setup: Linebrink/Brazoban - Linebrink
Setup: Meridith/Tsao - Meridith

padres 3-0

score padres 16-6

padres are relativly young, with some key veterans. a lot of these guys are entering or are in their best years (greene, gonzalez, m giles, cameron, peavy, young, hensly, linebrink, meridith)

while i see the dodgers as being pretty old, their rotation is a bunch of veterans, but they just dont have what they used to. injuries could plague them again.

yes im bias, but damn, look at statistics and age.

[Trippin4136]

Much like the past few years, the NL West winner will accumulate 84-88 wins and it will come down to the last 10 days of the season. Nobody will run away with that division.

[VanHorneDog]

Much like the past few years, the NL West winner will accumulate 84-88 wins and it will come down to the last 10 days of the season. Nobody will run away with that division.

agree, but i dont give anyone but the padres or dodgers a chance to win it, the rest of that division is :eek

[Xmasjjm]

You'd take Wells over Billingsley? Wow. Especially after all of your old age talk. Anyways, any truth to the Dodgers looking to deal Penny?

[VanHorneDog]

You'd take Wells over Billingsley? Wow. Especially after all of your old age talk. Anyways, any truth to the Dodgers looking to deal Penny?

if you notice, when i doubt i picked the veteran.

giles, gonzo, nomar, wells, hoffman

[xBigNastyx]

if you notice, when i doubt i picked the veteran.

giles, gonzo, nomar, wells, hoffman

I stopped reading when you picked Greene over Furcal, and when you said you had no idea who Wilson Betemit or Kevin Kousmanoff were....

[HolyCow]

I stopped reading when you picked Greene over Furcal, and when you said you had no idea who Wilson Betemit or Kevin Kousmanoff were....
Seriously.

:thumbsup

Wilson Betemit = one of the hottest rising cornerman in the game.

[DMBtheStoned]

Seriously.

:thumbsup

Wilson Betemit = one of the hottest rising cornerman in the game.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

[VanHorneDog]

I stopped reading when you picked Greene over Furcal, and when you said you had no idea who Wilson Betemit or Kevin Kousmanoff were....

ok fine, i know who Betemit and Kousmanoff are, but i really dont know much about them. i just know they are both prospects that are going to get the start this next year.

the greene thing is a prediction. i think he will finally be healthy and have a good year.

he is a slow starter yes, but the last 3 years when he gets hot he got injured.

not to mention his defense. wowza.

he will hit .270 with 25HR 90RBI 80R 330OBP next year if he stays healthy, i could even see him getting 100RBI, the guy is clutch.

[xBigNastyx]

Furcal will bat .300, steal 40 bases, hit close to 20 hr, drive in 75-80 runs batting second instead of first, and score 115 runs....


Furcal is the easy pick here over Greene.

Greene is what, a career .255 hitter? Greene is decent. Furcal is an allstar.

[xBigNastyx]

And Betemit has been in the league for 3 years, and is a terrific young player getting a shot to play every day this season...

I find it suprising for someone to give a review of the Dodgers and not even know who he is...

[HolyCow]

ok fine, i know who Betemit and Kousmanoff are, but i really dont know much about them. i just know they are both prospects that are going to get the start this next year.

the greene thing is a prediction. i think he will finally be healthy and have a good year.

he is a slow starter yes, but the last 3 years when he gets hot he got injured.

not to mention his defense. wowza.

he will hit .270 with 25HR 90RBI 80R 330OBP next year if he stays healthy, i could even see him getting 100RBI, the guy is clutch.
Have you ever seen Furcal play the 6? He has the best arm from there in the game.

[xBigNastyx]

Have you ever seen Furcal play the 6? He has the best arm from there in the game.

Yep.

Furcal is a beast. The fact that someone can pick Greene over him just boggles my mind cause of how ridiculous it is. :lol

[crashintome202]

Furcal will bat .300, steal 40 bases, hit close to 20 hr, drive in 75-80 runs batting second instead of first, and score 115 runs....


Furcal is the easy pick here over Greene.

Greene is what, a career .255 hitter? Greene is decent. Furcal is an allstar.
Furcal chomps on greene's injury prone ass. Furcal is a much better SS. Koz is a great hitter at 3rd for the padres but betemit played nicely for the dodgers after being traded for. Billingsly>>>Wells. Billingsly was a top pitching prospect who is panning out just like LA planned. and Broxton is the 8th inning guy...
i have the dodgers winning the NL West, the rotation is good, the pen is solid and i like the order. Divison takes a .500 record to win and they can do that

[ProudestAnt]

ok fine, i know who Betemit and Kousmanoff are, but i really dont know much about them. i just know they are both prospects that are going to get the start this next year.

the greene thing is a prediction. i think he will finally be healthy and have a good year.

he is a slow starter yes, but the last 3 years when he gets hot he got injured.

not to mention his defense. wowza.

he will hit .270 with 25HR 90RBI 80R 330OBP next year if he stays healthy, i could even see him getting 100RBI, the guy is clutch. Did you honestly just say that Kahlil Greene is going to hit 25 HRs? Are you serious? That would lead SSs who aren't named Tejada. Come on bro...

[ProudestAnt]

You wanna talk about SSs? Troy Tulowitzki. NL rookie of the year, mark it...

[crashintome202]

Did you honestly just say that Kahlil Greene is going to hit 25 HRs? Are you serious? That would lead SSs who aren't named Tejada. Come on bro...
especially not in that park with that order around him.

[HolyCow]

You wanna talk about SSs? Troy Tulowitzki. NL rookie of the year, mark it...
Oh yeah?

How about Ronny Cedano?



Oh, we weren't talking about awful SSs?

[ProudestAnt]

Oh yeah?

How about Ronny Cedano?



Oh, we weren't talking about awful SSs? Haha...

[DmBand801]

You wanna talk about SSs? Troy Tulowitzki. NL rookie of the year, mark it...

i second this--hes going to be a stud

[ProudestAnt]

i second this--hes going to be a stud :thumbsup

[Xmasjjm]

I've heard that some think that Bobby Crosby is going to have a big year. Any takers?

[ProudestAnt]

I've heard that some think that Bobby Crosby is going to have a big year. Any takers? He's due for a big year anytime he decides to stay healthy. He's a solid player, just bad luck with injuries...

[kevinmavs]

no...bobby crosby is still hurting they say...he has a back problem.. and that just affects the swing too much.

[TGaucho]

no...bobby crosby is still hurting they say...he has a back problem.. and that just affects the swing too much.

did you get my PM?

[crashintome202]

I've heard that some think that Bobby Crosby is going to have a big year. Any takers?
if that man ever stays healthy, he will shine. i don't see him being healthy though and i think he's got some problems right now

[ShotgunDMB]

World Series picks???

[Xmasjjm]

World Series picks???

I think it's easier to say who's not going to be in the World Series.

[VanHorneDog]

Have you ever seen Furcal play the 6? He has the best arm from there in the game.

Yep.

Furcal is a beast. The fact that someone can pick Greene over him just boggles my mind cause of how ridiculous it is. :lol

Furcal chomps on greene's injury prone ass. Furcal is a much better SS. Koz is a great hitter at 3rd for the padres but betemit played nicely for the dodgers after being traded for. Billingsly>>>Wells. Billingsly was a top pitching prospect who is panning out just like LA planned. and Broxton is the 8th inning guy...
i have the dodgers winning the NL West, the rotation is good, the pen is solid and i like the order. Divison takes a .500 record to win and they can do that

ok fine, take greene and wells off, padres still have a better team. HA!

but really, greene is gunna have a breakout year. greene is my boy on the pads so i have to pick him.

he will bat out of the 8th spot too. which, is the only reason he wont score as many and drive in as many. But, he is clutch. PLEASE STAY HEALTHY!!!

[VanHorneDog]

World Series picks???

Dodgers vs Twins :lol

[Xmasjjm]

Dodgers vs Twins :lol

I don't see what's so funny about that. It could happen. The Dodgers and Twins are contenders this year.

I will say that I admire your bold Greene perdiction but I just don't see a career .255 hitter who has never have 500 AB in the majors with a break-out year. I'd take Jason Bartlett over Greene this year.

You should be jacked up about Kouzmanoff. He could be a stud.

[xBigNastyx]

ok fine, take greene and wells off, padres still have a better team. HA!

but really, greene is gunna have a breakout year. greene is my boy on the pads so i have to pick him.

he will bat out of the 8th spot too. which, is the only reason he wont score as many and drive in as many. But, he is clutch. PLEASE STAY HEALTHY!!!

Earlier you said he would get 90-100 RBI...

Come on man...

The Dodgers are better than the Padres IMO...The Padres have good pitching, but they don't have ways to score runs.

The Dodgers have a bit of both...

And Greene is the 4th SS I'd want in that entire NL West...Drew, Tulowitski, and Furcal are all better...

Greene is decent at best IMO.

[xBigNastyx]

ok fine, take greene and wells off, padres still have a better team. HA!

but really, greene is gunna have a breakout year. greene is my boy on the pads so i have to pick him.

he will bat out of the 8th spot too. which, is the only reason he wont score as many and drive in as many. But, he is clutch. PLEASE STAY HEALTHY!!!

Earlier you said he would get 90-100 RBI...

Come on man...

The Dodgers are better than the Padres IMO...The Padres have good pitching, but they don't have ways to score runs.

The Dodgers have a bit of both...

And Greene is the 4th SS I'd want in that entire NL West...Drew, Tulowitski, and Furcal are all better...

Greene is decent at best IMO.

[dmbphan041]

The Jay's are gunna be teh sux0rz once again

[HolyCow]

Earlier you said he would get 90-100 RBI...

Come on man...

The Dodgers are better than the Padres IMO...The Padres have good pitching, but they don't have ways to score runs.

The Dodgers have a bit of both...

And Greene is the 4th SS I'd want in that entire NL West...Drew, Tulowitski, and Furcal are all better...

Greene is decent at best IMO.The most impressive thing about the Dodgers, especially last year was their ability to score runs without the long ball. That takes a very well-rounded offense.

[Ascf33]

World Series picks???

Yankees vs Dodgers
Yanks in 6.

[Tiduwho]

What kinda name is Khalil? :confused

[smeritt]

anyone else think pedro gomez does steroids with bonds and sosa?

[Tiduwho]

anyone else think pedro gomez does steroids with bonds and sosa?


Bigger tool than even Jay Glazer. He's the worst. I don't know how Bonds has managed to not explode on him with roid rage.

[gravedigger13]

ALCS: Tigers over Yankees
NLCS: Cardinals over Mets

World Series: Tigers over Cardinals

*I should preface my prediction by saying I'm excited to be able to pick the Tigers and not be laughed at. If our pitchers hold up their end of the bargain, we're going to be good. Our offense should be better than last year.

[xBigNastyx]

ALCS: Tigers over Yankees
NLCS: Cardinals over Mets

World Series: Tigers over Cardinals

*I should preface my prediction by saying I'm excited to be able to pick the Tigers and not be laughed at. If our pitchers hold up their end of the bargain, we're going to be good. Our offense should be better than last year.


Same NLCS and ALCS and same results as last year? I don't think so.

[Trippin4136]

Tigers over Yankees 2 years in a row? I don't think so... :lol :D

[GOB_]

Same NLCS and ALCS and same results as last year? I don't think so.

The Tigers beat the Yankees in the ALDS.

[Tiduwho]

ALCS: Tigers over Yankees
NLCS: Cardinals over Mets

World Series: Tigers over Cardinals

*I should preface my prediction by saying I'm excited to be able to pick the Tigers and not be laughed at. If our pitchers hold up their end of the bargain, we're going to be good. Our offense should be better than last year.

Do the Cards even have a staff after Carp? Even a #2?

[seekup41nancies]

Havn't back-read but: Manny's on scene in Ft. Myers! ha ha ha

[seekup41nancies]

Do the Cards even have a staff after Carp? Even a #2?

Wainwright (sp?) is gonna be in the rotation, plus Mulder and the flat brimmed hat guy that was good in the WS, I cant think of his name now...

[Tiduwho]

Wainwright (sp?) is gonna be in the rotation, plus Mulder and the flat brimmed hat guy that was good in the WS, I cant think of his name now...

They lost Suppan (the World Series MVP), and Mulder isn't even on the depth chart (he's sucked for a year and a half anyways).

http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/team/depth_chart/index.jsp?c_id=stl


Kip Wells though!! Anthony Reyes was terrible from what I remember. Wainwright has the potential, but who knows how he does in the rotation. And Braden Looper, in the rotation??


They look like the '06 Cubs after Zambrano. :lol

[gravedigger13]

Tigers over Yankees 2 years in a row? I don't think so... :lol :D

If there was going to be a season where the Yankees don't perform up to expecations, this could be the year.

I'm not trying to knock them; just saying their pitching looks suspect. They have two established starters and a bunch of question marks. The offense will have a huge year, though.

[seekup41nancies]

They lost Suppan (the World Series MVP), and Mulder isn't even on the depth chart (he's sucked for a year and a half anyways).

http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/team/depth_chart/index.jsp?c_id=stl


Kip Wells though!! Anthony Reyes was terrible from what I remember. Wainwright has the potential, but who knows how he does in the rotation. And Braden Looper, in the rotation??


They look like the '06 Cubs after Zambrano. :lol

Reyes brought it in the W.S. though, He'll be better this year I think.
I am a sox fan btw haha.

[Trippin4136]

If there was going to be a season where the Yankees don't perform up to expecations, this could be the year.

I'm not trying to knock them; just saying their pitching looks suspect. They have two established starters and a bunch of question marks. The offense will have a huge year, though.

Buddy, every year in the Joe Torre era they haven't won the WS they haven't quite lived up to expectations.

What are the expectations this year? Win the division, get in the playoffs, from there its a crapshoot.

[Tiduwho]

I can't wait for the May time "Playoffs or Else" from Steinbrenner.

[Trippin4136]

I think you'll be surprised at how little of that Big George rhetoric there will be this year. It's officially Cashman's club now.

[gravedigger13]

Buddy, every year in the Joe Torre era they haven't won the WS they haven't quite lived up to expectations.



I'm talking about a "not make the playoffs" type of year.

[Trippin4136]

I'm talking about a "not make the playoffs" type of year.

That would certainly be something.

[kevinmavs]

2 and half weeks until i make the trip to Surprise Arizona for some spring training action...can't wait

AL and NL MVP PICKS........GO

AL: Mark Tiexiera
NL: Albert Pujols

[neumdogg]

Because this is the baseball thread, I wanted to post my friend's website:

www.BoycottBarry.com

[xBigNastyx]

Wow, some people really concern themselves with Bonds way too much...

[watchtower86]

WHY NOT?

Let's Go Phillies

[DMBtheStoned]

barry is a douche but hardly the only one who uses/used steroids.

[neumdogg]

Because this is the baseball thread, I wanted to post my friend's website:

www.BoycottBarry.com
Basically I comes down to the Dodgers/Giants rivalry.

[Ascf33]

2 and half weeks until i make the trip to Surprise Arizona for some spring training action...can't wait

AL and NL MVP PICKS........GO

AL: Mark Tiexiera
NL: Albert Pujols

AL: Derek Jeter
NL: David Wright

[Jimi's Thing]

BUMP

I'm so excited...I leave in 2 days for Florida. Seeing the Yankees three times: once at the Phillies place, once at Legends, and once vs. the Indians. Can't wait to leave this fuckin weather and go down where it is warm. Also just excited to see some baseball again I hate the offseason.

[crashintome202]

BUMP

I'm so excited...I leave in 2 days for Florida. Seeing the Yankees three times: once at the Phillies place, once at Legends, and once vs. the Indians. Can't wait to leave this fuckin weather and go down where it is warm. Also just excited to see some baseball again I hate the offseason.
so lucky. i'd love to go down and see some games

[Tiduwho]

I'll say the Cubs win 120 this year.

[Trippin4136]

BUMP

I'm so excited...I leave in 2 days for Florida. Seeing the Yankees three times: once at the Phillies place, once at Legends, and once vs. the Indians. Can't wait to leave this fuckin weather and go down where it is warm. Also just excited to see some baseball again I hate the offseason.

Niiice.

I'm going down on March 11th to kick off baseball season. It's been a long fall/winter in a cubicle and I can't wait to get back to writing. I'll be shooting back and forth from Yankees and Mets camps.

[Dave Matthews]

I'll say the Cubs win 120 this year.

Spending money does not equal wins. I'd say they'd be lucky to break 90.

EDIT: I assume you were joking about that astronomical number...

[swordo84]

Blue Jays will make the playoffs this year!

--Colin

[ProudestAnt]

So no one has mentioned Gary Matthews Jr. being investigated for steroids? What does everyone think about this? Also, I'm going to get these previews done eventually.

Jon, are you by any chance hitting the Mets v Sox game at the Mets camp on the 13th? If so, we should get together...

[crashintome202]

So no one has mentioned Gary Matthews Jr. being investigated for steroids? What does everyone think about this? Also, I'm going to get these previews done eventually.

Jon, are you by any chance hitting the Mets v Sox game at the Mets camp on the 13th? If so, we should get together...
wouldnt be surprised one bit if he turns out to have used riods... he had a complete fluke season last year...

[ProudestAnt]

I agree. I've always thought he was a solid fielder, and he had the potential to be a decent bat, but christ, what he did last year was unreal...

[Tiduwho]

So no one has mentioned Gary Matthews Jr. being investigated for steroids? What does everyone think about this? Also, I'm going to get these previews done eventually.

Jon, are you by any chance hitting the Mets v Sox game at the Mets camp on the 13th? If so, we should get together...

Can't believe how overrated he is, and the fact that what stats he has put up were from steroids makes it even funnier.

[DMBtheStoned]

wouldnt be surprised one bit if he turns out to have used riods... he had a complete fluke season last year...


:thumbsup:thumbsup Still can't believe this guy got $50 mil.

[ProudestAnt]

Just some questions to perk interest and involvement in the thread:

Who lands Texeira 2 years from now? Obviously with Young getting an $80 mil deal, Tex won't be back in town when his contract is up, especially with prices going the way they are.

Where does Schilling wind up next season?

Who wins the AL West this year? Why?

Who wins the NL West this year? Why?

Where does Ichiro wind up next year?

What will be the blockbuster trade this season?

Where will Mariano Rivera wind up next year?

Who will be the Boston closer this season?

Finally, if Bonds continues to draw attention to himself and continue to be a negative player and DOESN'T break the HR record this season, who signs him next year, if anyone, and how much will he sign for?

[Tiduwho]

2 years is way too far to predict, but I'd love to have Teixera here in Chicago. I went to high school with his cousin. They look almost exactly alike.

[ProudestAnt]

2 years is way too far to predict, but I'd love to have Teixera here in Chicago. I went to high school with his cousin. They look almost exactly alike. You can start looking now and have an idea of where he'll go. He plays 1B. Who will need a 1B? You can look at teams with young, solid players at 1B, and then you can look at teams that will be able to afford a player like Tex. I see the Braves being a big player for him, as well as the Yanks...

[crashintome202]

You can start looking now and have an idea of where he'll go. He plays 1B. Who will need a 1B? You can look at teams with young, solid players at 1B, and then you can look at teams that will be able to afford a player like Tex. I see the Braves being a big player for him, as well as the Yanks...
yankees will be ALL OVER Tex if he hits the market.

[kevinmavs]

Just some questions to perk interest and involvement in the thread:

Who lands Texeira 2 years from now? Obviously with Young getting an $80 mil deal, Tex won't be back in town when his contract is up, especially with prices going the way they are.

Where does Schilling wind up next season?

Who wins the AL West this year? Why?

Who wins the NL West this year? Why?

Where does Ichiro wind up next year?

What will be the blockbuster trade this season?

Where will Mariano Rivera wind up next year?

Who will be the Boston closer this season?

Finally, if Bonds continues to draw attention to himself and continue to be a negative player and DOESN'T break the HR record this season, who signs him next year, if anyone, and how much will he sign for?

i'm a ranger fan and as much as it blows we will be saying bye to Tex. I think he'll jump somewhere big because he's gonna have a huge next 2 years. I can see the Rangers trying to trade him next year though or he could be a deadline deal next year but for now we'll take his production for this year.

Schilling will go to the Cards

AL West is Angels with the Rangers right behind
NL West is Padres with Dodgers right behind

Ichiro is going to the Angels

Blockbuster trade next season will be Tiexiera...to Chicago for John Danks and another prospect.

Mariano Rivera will go to the Mets

Pinerio gets the job at first but eventually Papelbon leaves the rotation to go back to closing....unless they trade a prospect or a big right handed bat to Texas for Akinori Otsuka.

he'll be in SF til the day he retires

[kevinmavs]

as far as Gary Matthews Jr...i really hope it's untrue because baseball is where I go to get away from sports bullcrap and it keeps coming in on some players that I have cared about. Rafael Palmeiro was my favorite player growing up. I"m not gonna accuse Gary until i see more evidence because I think these days all you have to do is report somebody's name and they look guilty. But it does look really fishy considering his miracle turn around season.

[justinandimcool]

:BANG Gary Matthews angers me.

Anyways, since we're playing prediction, the Dodgers are taking the NL West. I believe the leadoff tandem of Pierre/Furcal will be as effective as it looks on paper. Our rotation isn't that bad either. Lowe/Schmidt/Penny/Wolf/(Kuo/Billingsley/Stults/whoever). I say we have the most legit shot at going somewhere from that division. Padres...eh. I guess so. Maybe.

I hear the Brewers are gonna be something good this year, what do yall think?

[ProudestAnt]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/02/28/raids/index.html

Pretty tough to deny that he at least WAS using HGH. Question is, can they do anything because it wasn't a banned substence? I think he'll get off, but it definitely taints anything he does from here on out, and I think you totally throw out anything he did from 2004 on...

[ProudestAnt]

:BANG Gary Matthews angers me.

Anyways, since we're playing prediction, the Dodgers are taking the NL West. I believe the leadoff tandem of Pierre/Furcal will be as effective as it looks on paper. Our rotation isn't that bad either. Lowe/Schmidt/Penny/Wolf/(Kuo/Billingsley/Stults/whoever). I say we have the most legit shot at going somewhere from that division. Padres...eh. I guess so. Maybe.

I hear the Brewers are gonna be something good this year, what do yall think? I'm predicting the Dodgers win it all this year.

If Peavy can get his head out of his ass, the Pads are going to be tough to beat at least every 5 games.

Brewers will not to shit...

[Tiduwho]

I hear the Brewers are gonna be something good this year, what do yall think?

Not if they can't stay healthy...like every year.

[Ascf33]

Yanks vs Dodgers.... I've been saying it since page 20 or so... :lol

[neumdogg]

Yanks vs Dodgers.... I've been saying it since page 20 or so... :lol
I dont think anything would make me happier.

[neumdogg]

I dont think anything would make me happier.
Well, if the Dodgers actaully won the World Series. That would make me happier!

[gravedigger13]

I think the Tigers have a legitimate shot of getting Texiera in a couple years.

[ProudestAnt]

I think the Tigers have a legitimate shot of getting Texiera in a couple years. you think they have a legitimate shot at everything...

[Trippin4136]

Jon, are you by any chance hitting the Mets v Sox game at the Mets camp on the 13th? If so, we should get together...

Sorry man, I'll be at Yankees camp on the 12th and 13th b/c they are playing the Red Sox and Reds. I'm spending the morning of the 14th in Tampa than driving cross state with my colleague to the Mets camp that day.

[jmudmbphan]

yo proudest, whatsup with that fantasy league

[Holemandaddy]

Go Rangers!

Ian Kinsler
Mike Young
Hank Blaylock
Mark Teixiera

Oh and some guys that thow the ball to home plate only to watch it rocket into oribt then land in the Dallas Cowbows Stadium construction site.

[kevinmavs]

hey it's the american league coors field....and the pitching WILL be significantly better this year

[thehoss]

i hope texas does well this year. it seems as if when we play them in the alds, it follows a world championship :)

[gravedigger13]

you think they have a legitimate shot at everything...

Wow. Nice one. Where did that come from?

Let's see: We have an owner who is willing to spend; a vacancy at first base after this season; and we no longer suck.

Sounds legitimate to me.

[ProudestAnt]

Wow. Nice one. Where did that come from?

Let's see: We have an owner who is willing to spend; a vacancy at first base after this season; and we no longer suck.

Sounds legitimate to me. "After this season" is the key phrase in this. Tex isn't a free agent until after NEXT season. So you think your "spend-crazy" owner will just sit on his hands until Tex is a free agent? Or do you think he'll actually go out and make some moves to try and pick up a 1B this year? Again, you think the Tigers have a shot at everything. Instead of analyzing situations, you just have a "homer" attitude and HOPE instead of think, then just switch the words. Do the Tigers have a legit shot at Tex? No. You HOPE they do, but they don't. I don't care what you say about your owner, a talent like Tex will not escape the grips of Georgie boy...

[brydro]

"After this season" is the key phrase in this. Tex isn't a free agent until after NEXT season. So you think your "spend-crazy" owner will just sit on his hands until Tex is a free agent? Or do you think he'll actually go out and make some moves to try and pick up a 1B this year? Again, you think the Tigers have a shot at everything. Instead of analyzing situations, you just have a "homer" attitude and HOPE instead of think, then just switch the words. Do the Tigers have a legit shot at Tex? No. You HOPE they do, but they don't. I don't care what you say about your owner, a talent like Tex will not escape the grips of Georgie boy...


(Continued)

...or the evil empire light...:lol

[brydro]

"After this season" is the key phrase in this. Tex isn't a free agent until after NEXT season. So you think your "spend-crazy" owner will just sit on his hands until Tex is a free agent? Or do you think he'll actually go out and make some moves to try and pick up a 1B this year? Again, you think the Tigers have a shot at everything. Instead of analyzing situations, you just have a "homer" attitude and HOPE instead of think, then just switch the words. Do the Tigers have a legit shot at Tex? No. You HOPE they do, but they don't. I don't care what you say about your owner, a talent like Tex will not escape the grips of Georgie boy...

Dude!! Whats up with Fantasy Baseball? :D :monkey

[gravedigger13]

"After this season" is the key phrase in this. Tex isn't a free agent until after NEXT season. So you think your "spend-crazy" owner will just sit on his hands until Tex is a free agent? Or do you think he'll actually go out and make some moves to try and pick up a 1B this year? Again, you think the Tigers have a shot at everything. Instead of analyzing situations, you just have a "homer" attitude and HOPE instead of think, then just switch the words. Do the Tigers have a legit shot at Tex? No. You HOPE they do, but they don't. I don't care what you say about your owner, a talent like Tex will not escape the grips of Georgie boy...

You know, your elitist attitude gets old real quick. Still bitter that Red Sox didn't make the playoffs last year? We're talking about the same "spend-crazy" owner who spent big bucks on the Red Wings for years, and would have continued to do so had a salary cap not been implemented. He's been quoted numerous times as saying he wants the Tigers to win more than anything.

And who's to say the Tigers don't sign Casey to another one year deal after this one and go hard after Texieira next year? I wouldn't say the Tigers have a shot at him if we had a first baseman locked up for the next five years. It's not like we have a hot shot prospect at first waiting in the wings.

I wasn't looking to start an argument with my statement.

[Tiduwho]

Sure would be nice if the Tribune Company sells the team to Mark Cuban.


*fingers crossed*

[GavMan33]

Amazing. And UNG isn't even around, and there's still fighting going around. Why is it always so hostile in here?

[Ascf33]

Amazing. And UNG isn't even around, and there's still fighting going around. Why is it always so hostile in here?

UNG = BigNasty correct??

[Tiduwho]

UNG = BigNasty correct??

You couldn't tell? :lol

[gravedigger13]

Sorry, guys. I wasn't trying to start anything. I just felt like I needed to reply.

[Trippin4136]

Michael Young got a 5 year / $80 million extension.

Categorically, a great hitter and a defender, and as an all-star shortstop, it appears his deal sets the bar for young guys who will eventually command that money.

[kevinmavs]

the best player in the league that nobody knows about....i met mike at spring training last year and watching him play and just talking to him he's a genuine good guy...he is what the MLB should be.

[ProudestAnt]

the best player in the league that nobody knows about....i met mike at spring training last year and watching him play and just talking to him he's a genuine good guy...he is what the MLB should be. yea, nobody knows about the guy who was the MVP of the All-Star game last year...:rolleyes

[ProudestAnt]

For those I talked to about the fantasy league. We agreed on $20 and ten teams. I started the league, so I need everyone to get back to me via PM about whether or not you're still in for the league. When I receive your PM, I'll send you my address. The draft is tentitively set for March 29 at 10pm EST. It can be changed. I've got a Rotisserie league, which also can be changed. Let me know...

[ProudestAnt]

We've got 9 for the fantasy league. Looking for one more. Who's interested in a $20 pay league?

[brydro]

We've got 9 for the fantasy league. Looking for one more. Who's interested in a $20 pay league?

PM sent.

[jmudmbphan]

thanks for the invite ryan..go ahead and let brydo take my spot....i forgot this was a money league, i think im gonna sit this one out.

[ProudestAnt]

Alright, we've got 8 now, adding brydo, dropping tiduwho and jmu. Two slots...

[Tiduwho]

yea, nobody knows about the guy who was the MVP of the All-Star game last year...:rolleyes

It's that he doesn't get talked about or hyped up whatsoever in the media.

[Tiduwho]

What's with all this A-Rod Cubs talk?

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/502009p-423343c.html

[crashintome202]

What's with all this A-Rod Cubs talk?

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/502009p-423343c.html
the guy is just looking for something to talk about

[xBigNastyx]

Let's get this thread rolling again...

[Tiduwho]

Don't be surprised when Zambrano wins the Cy Young, Soriano wins the MVP, and the Cubs win the NL Central this year.

[crashintome202]

Let's get this thread rolling again...
just under 2 weeks til opening night!

[cbotnyse]

I predict the Chicago White Sox will return to the World Series.

[DMBCubs25]

Don't be surprised when Zambrano wins the Cy Young, Soriano wins the MVP, and the Cubs win the NL Central this year.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup lets hope all of those are true, and that everyone stays healthy on the team

[gravedigger13]

just under 2 weeks til opening night!

I was just going to post that. :bounce

[kevinmavs]

i'm at spring training right now and OH MY GOD i don't think i can wait much longer for opening day.

[junior94]

Please forgive me for posting such a question without having read back the last few pages to see if it was addressed, but...

Everyone's heard the Clemens stipulation right that if he does return (& to Houston, Boston or NY only), he will do so for no less than $5 million -- a month.

eeek.

What do you think, is that him being an overly greedy dick, or would you gladly give it to him if you were the GM?

[Ascf33]

I think Cashman would do it. Steinbrenner wants that last championship before he dies.

[crashintome202]

Please forgive me for posting such a question without having read back the last few pages to see if it was addressed, but...

Everyone's heard the Clemens stipulation right that if he does return (& to Houston, Boston or NY only), he will do so for no less than $5 million -- a month.

eeek.

What do you think, is that him being an overly greedy dick, or would you gladly give it to him if you were the GM?
most athletes are greedy dicks but clemens can get away with it since he's one of the best pitchers of all time. especially with the price average pitchers have been getting this offseason

[dmbmuskie]

Let's Go Bucs!

The all time consecutive losing season streak is within our grasp.

[Tiduwho]

Let's Go Bucs!

The all time consecutive losing season streak is within our grasp.

:lol

100 years of futility is within the Cubs grasp. Just one more year!

[Tiduwho]

F Clemens. I really wish he would just retire already...for real this time. Real real. Half year player. Chucks fastballs at his own son's head.


He's a tool. The complete opposite of Greg Maddux, who probably has more class than any pitcher in MLB history.

[dmbmuskie]

:lol

100 years of futility is within the Cubs grasp. Just one more year!

I guess you have me there.

[devilandthelord]

F Clemens. I really wish he would just retire already...for real this time. Real real. Half year player. Chucks fastballs at his own son's head.


He's a tool. The complete opposite of Greg Maddux, who probably has more class than any pitcher in MLB history.

:thumbsup, agree completely.
I know he is one of the best pitchers in MLB history, but seriously. Who does this asshole think he is?
I loathe him, and hope if he does come back he fails miserably.

[dmbmuskie]

:thumbsup, agree completely.
I know he is one of the best pitchers in MLB history, but seriously. Who does this asshole think he is?
I loathe him, and hope if he does come back he fails miserably.

He's chemically enhanced enough that I don't think that's an issue.

[Tiduwho]

Oooo, they're going to do a special on Adam Greenburg, the former Cubs that came into the game as a pinch hitter, and for his very first at-bat he got smoked in the head and hasn't been back to the Bigs since. It would be downright terrible if he never made it back, that's Moonlight Graham caliber stuff there. On outside the lines in a few.

[Ascf33]

Oooo, they're going to do a special on Adam Greenburg, the former Cubs that came into the game as a pinch hitter, and for his very first at-bat he got smoked in the head and hasn't been back to the Bigs since. It would be downright terrible if he never made it back, that's Moonlight Graham caliber stuff there. On outside the lines in a few.

I saw the sportsscenter thing on him this morning. He seems like such a nice kid too. Shame. He's on the Royals now... so he'll prob start and leadoff.

[dmbmuskie]

Oooo, they're going to do a special on Adam Greenburg, the former Cubs that came into the game as a pinch hitter, and for his very first at-bat he got smoked in the head and hasn't been back to the Bigs since. It would be downright terrible if he never made it back, that's Moonlight Graham caliber stuff there. On outside the lines in a few.

It was on SC the other night. I'm pulling for him.

[xBigNastyx]

most athletes are greedy dicks but clemens can get away with it since he's one of the best pitchers of all time. especially with the price average pitchers have been getting this offseason


The thing that gets forgotten about Clemens is when he pitched for the Yanks, he wasn't dominating IMO.

The NL Central is a lot easier to pitch in than the AL East...If he joins the Sox or Yanks, his ERA will rise at least an entire run IMO.

And I hate to be completely negative, but it bugs me that Clemens can do whatever the hell he wants and everyone still loves him...No one remembers his little tirades agaisnt Piazza? He was completely to blame in those, but no one cares. And I'm not convinced he didn't do steroids. But since his name isn't Barry Bonds, no one really cares, and Clemens is alowed to demand 5 million a month to play half a season..


I think it's bullshit.

[xBigNastyx]

Oooo, they're going to do a special on Adam Greenburg, the former Cubs that came into the game as a pinch hitter, and for his very first at-bat he got smoked in the head and hasn't been back to the Bigs since. It would be downright terrible if he never made it back, that's Moonlight Graham caliber stuff there. On outside the lines in a few.

I saw that..


What a great story (not in the sense of what happened, well whatever you know what I mean lol).. I hope everything works out for him and he makes it back. :thumbsup

[xBigNastyx]

I saw the sportsscenter thing on him this morning. He seems like such a nice kid too. Shame. He's on the Royals now... so he'll prob start and leadoff.


One more thing.


Remember when you and your fellow Yankees fans crucified me for having Jeter sucks under my avatar?


Bit hypocritical don't ya think? :rolleyes

[Ascf33]

I don't recall but I'll change it.

[thedeathwish]

F Clemens. I really wish he would just retire already...for real this time. Real real. Half year player. Chucks fastballs at his own son's head.


He's a tool. The complete opposite of Greg Maddux, who probably has more class than any pitcher in MLB history.

you obviously didn't follow the career of atlee hammaker.

[xBigNastyx]

I don't recall but I'll change it.

No, you don't have to change it, doesn't bother me. Just don't lash out at me when I do it, that's all I'm saying.


No worries.

EDIT- Maybe I'm mistaken and it was Jon who complained to me about it. I could be wrong about that though, but I know it was one of y'all lol.

[devilandthelord]

This just in from 1998, Sammy Sosa is hitting .417 with 3 HRs and 8 RBIs in spring training.
I mean, I know it's spring training, and I don't know what kind of competition he's faced on the mound, but I'm kind of impressed.

[xBigNastyx]

This just in from 1998, Sammy Sosa is hitting .417 with 3 HRs and 8 RBIs in spring training.
I mean, I know it's spring training, and I don't know what kind of competition he's faced on the mound, but I'm kind of impressed.


I was actually thinking about that too today..

It ACTUALLY crossed my mind to pick him in fantasy, but then I laughed and told myself I was an idiot and didn't do it. lol

[Tiduwho]

Tony LaRussa = A Sleepy Drunk

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6596608?MSNHPHMA

[ProudestAnt]

I'll be stopping in tonight to reflect on Spring Training. Successful trip, saw a TON more games than I had planned on...

[Trippin4136]

I'll be stopping in tonight to reflect on Spring Training. Successful trip, saw a TON more games than I had planned on...


Sweet man. I just got back from Yankees/Mets camps on Sunday. I got to see a lot of good ball and catch up with a lot of guys in the farm system. It was a blast.

[jmudmbphan]

does anyone in here talk to thehoss???? just got a pm from him claiming he sent me 20 dollars a month ago and that I have scammed him out of a league.........

does anyone else, who actually started a league or is even in a pay league know anything about this??

im fucking confused as shit..

[Tiduwho]

does anyone in here talk to thehoss???? just got a pm from him claiming he sent me 20 dollars a month ago and that I have scammed him out of a league.........

does anyone else, who actually started a league or is even in a pay league know anything about this??

im fucking confused as shit..

I know ProudestAnt has a $20 league.

[jmudmbphan]

yeah i think his concerns are with proudest..he got mixed up..its straightened out now..

[ProudestAnt]

Yea, he sent me money, but because I was on vacation I didn't get it until Tuesday night. I don't think the league is coming together, so I put the ol' "Return to Sender" on the envelope and popped it in the box today, so he should be getting his money rather soon...

[ProudestAnt]

So Papelbon is moving back to the pen. He requested the move and said that he wanted to close for the rest of his career. We'll see I guess. At least we have a firm closer...

[UltimateFrisbee]

I was actually thinking about that too today..

It ACTUALLY crossed my mind to pick him in fantasy, but then I laughed and told myself I was an idiot and didn't do it. lol

Haha I tried to choose him in the final round and went alphabetical but he wasn't on the list. I think because he hasn't officially made the roster yet.

[UltimateFrisbee]

Yea, he sent me money, but because I was on vacation I didn't get it until Tuesday night. I don't think the league is coming together, so I put the ol' "Return to Sender" on the envelope and popped it in the box today, so he should be getting his money rather soon...

Bahh I'd be in for it. I only saw Katie's league in the 24um so I'm playing in that but I want a friendly wager on the line.

[DeadDmb]

oh duanar

[ProudestAnt]

Just found out I'm picking last for my fantasy draft tonight. *fist pump* for that...

[junior94]

Good god. Uggie Urbina = 14 years :ugh

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2815590

[Pig17]

Good god. Uggie Urbina = 14 years :ugh

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2815590

:eek

Wow.

[SoRight24]

And Mark Prior is sent to AAA.

Such a shame that he got injured, he was gonna be a great one.

[devilandthelord]

And Mark Prior is sent to AAA.

Such a shame that he got injured, he was gonna be a great one.

Man that is sad. He may never come back. :(

[gravedigger13]

Carl Pavano Opening Day starter? Is this true?

For my fellow Tiger fans: Kenny Rogers to start the season on DL due to fatigued arm.

[ProudestAnt]

It's going to be either Pavano or one of the rookies. Wang is on the DL to open the season and Moose is just starting to throw again, so he won't be ready...

[Trippin4136]

It's going to be either Pavano or one of the rookies. Wang is on the DL to open the season and Moose is just starting to throw again, so he won't be ready...

I don't what's supposed to mean. Moose sticks to a very tight schedule when it comes to his pitching which Torre adheres too. There is nothing structurally wrong with Mussina.

[ProudestAnt]

I don't what's supposed to mean. Moose sticks to a very tight schedule when it comes to his pitching which Torre adheres too. There is nothing structurally wrong with Mussina. I meant Pettitte. I don't know what's wrong with me today...

[SatelliteEyes]

So I'm excited that this is finally the Brewers year and having season tickets for the past 8 seasons will finally pay off.

[ProudestAnt]

So I'm excited that this is finally the Brewers year and having season tickets for the past 8 seasons will finally pay off.
:ugh Did I miss something?

[SatelliteEyes]

:ugh Did I miss something?

No, we are picked by many national sports "people" to either win the Central or win the Wild Card.

Let's go Brew Crew!

[gravedigger13]

I think the NL Central is wide open.

[ProudestAnt]

No, we are picked by many national sports "people" to either win the Central or win the Wild Card.

Let's go Brew Crew! Well the Wild Card is coming out of the West, not to a team that will barely finish .500, so don't count on that. You'd better win your division and that will be very tough to do with the Cards...

[SatelliteEyes]

Well the Wild Card is coming out of the West, not to a team that will barely finish .500, so don't count on that. You'd better win your division and that will be very tough to do with the Cards...

Outside of Poo-holes we've got the Cards covered. They are old and have no pitching after Carp.

The Cubs should take care of themselves.

The Astros lost Pettitte and Clemens.

Reds and Pirates are still a few years away.

The West may be too competitive for the WC to come out of there. The Division winner may well win 90 games but 2nd place could be something like 86-87 wins, and two teams in the Central could win 88-87 games because overall the Central isnt as strong.

[Trippin4136]

Well the Wild Card is coming out of the West, not to a team that will barely finish .500, so don't count on that. You'd better win your division and that will be very tough to do with the Cards...

Hm, I wouldn't be so sure that it couldn't come out of the East. You know all those NL West teams will be fighting to get to 85 wins as it is.

[SatelliteEyes]

Hm, I wouldn't be so sure that it couldn't come out of the East. You know all those NL West teams will be fighting to get to 85 wins as it is.

Yeah, it wasn't but two years ago that the winner of the West had like 82 or 83 wins (The Padres). The entire NL is so watered-down that the wild card could come out of any division really.

[Tiduwho]

Yeah, it wasn't but two years ago that the winner of the West had like 82 or 83 wins (The Padres). The entire NL is so watered-down that the wild card could come out of any division really.

It always can come out of any division. This isn't the AL East huzzah that lasted however long before last year.

[Trippin4136]

It always can come out of any division. This isn't the AL East huzzah that lasted however long before last year.

Really, the "huzzah" was only 3 years. The Red Sox didn't reach the playoffs in 2000, 2001 or 2002 nor from '96 to '98.

[Tiduwho]

Really, the "huzzah" was only 3 years. The Red Sox didn't reach the playoffs in 2000, 2001 or 2002 nor from '96 to '98.

Really? Lol. I never really cared about or paid attention to the AL outside the White Sox until 2003. :lol

[gravedigger13]

Why is everyone picking the Indians?

[Tiduwho]

Why is everyone picking the Indians?

I thought that was last year? And the MVP was supposed to be between Hafner and Sizemore.

[kevinmavs]

i just really don't think the indians will win that division...or the wildcard. i mean sure they are good but so is just about everybody in the AL. Marte and Barfield are still very very young. And you can't count on Sabathia to be healthy. I'll believe it when i see it.

[kevinmavs]

Well the Wild Card is coming out of the West, not to a team that will barely finish .500, so don't count on that. You'd better win your division and that will be very tough to do with the Cards...

i don't know...i would say the Phillies/Mets runner up will win the wildcard

[kevinmavs]

The National league sucks

[SatelliteEyes]

The National league sucks


Maybe they do, but the Rangers would still be a sub-.500 team in the NL West. Sorry.

[crashintome202]

Maybe they do, but the Rangers would still be a sub-.500 team in the NL West. Sorry.
the nl west is usually all .500 teams :lol

[justinandimcool]

The National league sucks

At least the Dodgers don't! :multi

The AL playoff/wildcard scenario, however, is gonna be nuts. Sorry to reiterate the obvious, but I'm pumped.

[kevinmavs]

Maybe they do, but the Rangers would still be a sub-.500 team in the NL West. Sorry.

the rangers are a .500 team in the AL...so don't tell me they would be sub 500 in the NL. Much better than the D'backs, Rockies, and Giants.

[hoke2007]

GO TIGERS! I just wanted to throw that out there. I'm done.

[dowling25]

Red Sox baby

[boobookittyfuk]

Maybe they do, but the Rangers would still be a sub-.500 team in the NL West. Sorry.

isn't pretty much every other team already a sub-.500 team in the nl west? :p

[devilandthelord]

Sammy made the team!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2007/news/story?id=2818260

[kevinmavs]

he was hitting .404...as much as i'm against cheating and everything sammy has done negatively for baseball....being a ranger fan i hope he hits 25 homeruns and knocks in 85 RBI's.

it's kind of sketchy though...he looks like chicago sammy and not baltimore sammy....physically and mentally.

[hoke2007]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/03/30/bc.bba.tigers.rogers.ap/index.html

Man, this sucks. I can't believe that he's out until July. I'm pissed.

[BotheDMBFan]

he was hitting .404...as much as i'm against cheating and everything sammy has done negatively for baseball....being a ranger fan i hope he hits 25 homeruns and knocks in 85 RBI's.

it's kind of sketchy though...he looks like chicago sammy and not baltimore sammy....physically and mentally.

Sammy Sosa will get the Rangers to the playoffs.

[devilandthelord]

Sammy Sosa will get the Rangers to the playoffs.

Hmmmmm. I disagree.

[BotheDMBFan]

Yeah, probably not, but damn it, I love Sammy.

And who knows, maybe Kenny Lofton will give them a hand too.(Despite being 41, he's still one of the fastest mofos in the MLB.)