2007 Major League Baseball Season

[kevinmavs]

i went to rangers spring training in arizona and i saw 6 rangers games. kenny lofton looks amazing he was just hitting singles up the middle almost everytime at the plate it seemed. now i know i'm a huge ranger fan and a homer of course but i don't think the national press gives them enough credit. they can play with the teams in the AL West.

[BotheDMBFan]

Thing is, I hate the Rangers, but they keep getting players that I love.

[kevinmavs]

why the hate for the rangers??

[kevinmavs]

they break my heart every year....first place at the all star break and then august just F'n kills us

[DMBCubs25]

someone wanna explain to me why all the espn analysts are sucking off the brewers this year? they are not good

[dmbphan041]

The Jays are going to be shit yet again. Why the hell did we sign Frank Thomas? he's terrible

[Tiduwho]

The Jays are going to be shit yet again. Why the hell did we sign Frank Thomas? he's terrible

You're an idiot.

[Tiduwho]

someone wanna explain to me why all the espn analysts are sucking off the brewers this year? they are not good

Because we all know how reliable ESPN experts are.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/features/talent?week=3&seasontype=3



Prepare to be anally raped by SatelliteEyes by the way.

[cbotnyse]

The Jays are going to be shit yet again. Why the hell did we sign Frank Thomas? he's terribleterrible? He single handedly got the A's in the playoffs last year.

[kevinmavs]

i don't think you can count on frank thomas for 110 games this year.

ESPN analysts are horrible. They don't know anything besides the main stories that everybody already knows. Besides maybe Buster Olney and Peter Gammons. I get all my news from teams from the teams official website.

The brewers won't make the playoffs i don't know why everybody is saying they will. they don't have near enough pitching. Jeff Suppan is not a 20 game winner like everybody is saying.

The jays are just in a tough division...The AL is so hard everyteam has a chance to make the playoffs besides the Orioles, D-rays, Royals, and probably Mariners.

[UNLTrpt]

Ok season begins in earnest today. My team is the Twins. Could be a playoff team but so are 4 other teams in the central. Going to be very tough for them to repeat.

Jason Stark picked the Tigers...so they won't win it.

Oh and keep an eye out on Mr. Alex Gordon for the KC Royals. Stellar talent, Nebraska product and is probably the early horse in the ROY. On an absolutely awful awful team.

[VanHorneDog]

hahah the cardinals suck... too bad i had carpenter starting on both my fantasy teams... fucking pujols, cant hit a 6 run HR your fucktard???

[Ascf33]

Today is the big day. :bounce

[kevinmavs]

best day of the year

[BotheDMBFan]

You know, I'm kinda rooting for the Rangers now, despite my hatred for them. I guess you can chalk that up under me hating everyone else in that division even more.

[Ev42]

I love opening day so much, chicago cub fan here.

[BotheDMBFan]

Yeah, it's when we get to August that we start to kinda hate baseball.

[GinaNMU]

:multi Happy Baseball Season!!! :multi

My MLBtv will be up and running at 2:10pm EST at work today (CUBBIES!!)

[SatelliteEyes]

Because we all know how reliable ESPN experts are.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/features/talent?week=3&seasontype=3



Prepare to be anally raped by SatelliteEyes by the way.


:lol I actually laughed out loud in my office when I read that. Heading over the The Keg for opening day in about two hours.

The reason the Brewers are being picked by many is because they have the best pitching staff in the central by far and their offense, while just average right now, is full of young guys like Fielder, Hall and Weeks who are no where near their peak years and at least project to get better this year. They are a trendy pick, I agree, but it's better than having the National Media flip/flop us with the Pirates for last.

[SoRight24]

Wooooooooo!

Opening Day!

LETS GO SOX!

[kevinmavs]

some of you guys are lucky with afternoon games...i have to wait until 9:30 tonight......fucking west coast angels.

[kevinmavs]

You know, I'm kinda rooting for the Rangers now, despite my hatred for them. I guess you can chalk that up under me hating everyone else in that division even more.

notice there are not many A's, Angels, or Mariners fans here on the boards. Surely to the masses the Rangers are more likeable than those teams.

[SatelliteEyes]

I harbor no ill will towards the Rangers, but I look at that team and they may be lucky to win 75 games this year. I like Kinsler a lot, and Young is very steady and solid at SS, but both Texieria and Blalok had down years last year and I dont think Blalock is going to bounce back, as he has never been able to hit outside of Texas and this is two horrible years in a row from him.

Their pitching is also not good and in fact is probably the worst in the West. Kevin Millwood is basically Jeff Suppan - a guy who has played on some good teams to get high win totals but who is probably only slightly above average, a sold #3 starter, and he is Texas's #1. Same thing with Padilla. This guy's ERA has been about 4.5 for the last three years. He isnt going to magically start getting better in the band box that is The BallPark or whatever corporate name it has now. Then who does Texas have? Brandon McCarthy is a good young pitcher but who knows how he will do, the White Sox kind of gave up on him and I have no idea who is pitching the other 40% of the time.

Like I said, I dont dislike the Rangers, they are a likeable team, but it's gonna be a long, long year in Texas.

[TheOtherside]

best day of the year

this really should be a national holiday :D

I love opening day so much, chicago cub fan here.

Baseball season's underway
Well you better get ready for a brand new day.

Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna win today.

They're singing ...
Go, Cubs, go
Go, Cubs, go

Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna win today.

Go, Cubs, go
Go, Cubs, go

Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna win today.

They got the power, they got the speed
To be the best in the National League
Well this is the year and Cubs are real
So come on down to Wrigley Field

We're singing now ...

Go, Cubs, go
Go, Cubs, go
Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna win today.

Go, Cubs, go
Go, Cubs, go
Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna win today.

Baseball time is here again
You can catch it all on WGN
So stamp you feet and clap your hands
Chicago Cubs got the greatest fans.

You're singing now ...

Go, Cubs, go
Go, Cubs, go
Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna win today.

Go, Cubs, go
Go, Cubs, go
Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna win today.

[UNC41]

some of you guys are lucky with afternoon games...i have to wait until 9:30 tonight......fucking west coast angels.

Prepare to be destroyed by Vlad.

[Bartndrpleez]

I am actually a little excited for the season (as you can see with my new avatar). :lol I'm not as hardcore about baseball as I used to be, but I still follow the Marlins throughout the season. And with expectations being at 0 again this season, it can only be fun to watch a bunch of kids play the game and challenge the rest of the NL. After their 11-31 start last season, the Fish had the 2nd best record in all of MLB. Hopefully, they can grow from that and possibly even *gasp* compete for a spot in the playoffs.

[ProudestAnt]

This is my favorite day of the year...

[jmudmbphan]

got my mo jersey on and i am ready to go

[jmudmbphan]

25 more minutes...im getting antsy..

[kevinmavs]

I harbor no ill will towards the Rangers, but I look at that team and they may be lucky to win 75 games this year. I like Kinsler a lot, and Young is very steady and solid at SS, but both Texieria and Blalok had down years last year and I dont think Blalock is going to bounce back, as he has never been able to hit outside of Texas and this is two horrible years in a row from him.

Their pitching is also not good and in fact is probably the worst in the West. Kevin Millwood is basically Jeff Suppan - a guy who has played on some good teams to get high win totals but who is probably only slightly above average, a sold #3 starter, and he is Texas's #1. Same thing with Padilla. This guy's ERA has been about 4.5 for the last three years. He isnt going to magically start getting better in the band box that is The BallPark or whatever corporate name it has now. Then who does Texas have? Brandon McCarthy is a good young pitcher but who knows how he will do, the White Sox kind of gave up on him and I have no idea who is pitching the other 40% of the time.

Like I said, I dont dislike the Rangers, they are a likeable team, but it's gonna be a long, long year in Texas.

the following statements are just what i know about the team...not me being biased.

Millwood is a groundball pitcher and when he does have a bad outing it's just because groundballs were finding the holes. About Padilla....well a 4.50 ERA in Arlington is considered awesome. McCarthy is a huge question mark as is Robinson Tejeda...but these guys are high prospects that nobody knows about because they are in Texas. The bullpen will be the most underrated bullpen in the league. I'm not talking about Gagne and Otsuka..i'm talking about guys that you don't know like CJ Wilson, Joaquin Benoit, Scott Feldman, and Wes Littleton, and Kameron Loe.

It's The Ballpark in Arlington...we don't have a corporate name.

Teixera had a down year last year...hitting 38 homeruns. Mike Young hits .300 every year and has 200 hits. You are so right about Blalock but you have to remember he's 25. He's still young. Ian Kinsler is ready to bust out. He will be a household name after this year.

There are a lot of "if's" but name one club who doesn't have ifs. We are in the most winnable division besides the NL West or NL Central. And last but not least...the Buck Showalter factor. Now that the huge prick is gone things are looking brighter.

[Ascf33]

This is my favorite day of the year...

:thumbsup

Clean slate. 2006 is over. 2007 is upon us. Nothing else matters now.

[aeroshady]

Yankees game has started.....Sox game at 4!!!

[CarterUSA1]

Fuck Comcast. Blacked out the Phillies game for some unknown reason. So pissed off.

[swordo84]

Ok (ok) Blue Jays (blue jays) Lets Play Ball.....up an early 2-0 vs. the Tigers in the top of 1

--Colin

[Tiduwho]

Lmfao @ E-Rod!!!!

[ProudestAnt]

I'm loving this. Last season, my fantasy team was killed by steals (or lack thereof), but this year, I already have two steals (Ramirez and Crawford) and my team has only logged a total of 1 inning...

[ProudestAnt]

Lmfao @ E-Rod!!!! Yea, what a way for him to start his retribution year...

[fantasia22]

big red sox fan. this year looks very promising, especially givin our roatation. unfortunatly im guna miss the season opener because i gotta be at work. regardless go sox, and hopefully well be there in october.

[ProudestAnt]

big red sox fan. this year looks very promising, especially givin our roatation. unfortunatly im guna miss the season opener because i gotta be at work. regardless go sox, and hopefully well be there in october. mlb.com is your friend at work...

[fantasia22]

mlb.com is your friend at work...
no internet at work, no computer at work, no desk, no office, nada

[ProudestAnt]

no internet at work, no computer at work, no desk, no office, nada what do you do that you don't have a computer?

[Bartndrpleez]

Good start so far. 6-0 Marlins in the 4th over the Nationals! :bounce

EDIT: Miggie Cabrera already 2-2 with a home run, ground rule double and 4 RBIs. SICK.

[ProudestAnt]

:lol HAHAHA :lol I have Cabrera (2-2, HR, 4 RBI) and Ramirez (2-2, 1 RBI, 2 SBs) on my fantasy team...

[Bartndrpleez]

:lol HAHAHA :lol I have Cabrera (2-2, HR, 4 RBI) and Ramirez (2-2, 1 RBI, 2 SBs) on my fantasy team...

Excellent! :thumbsup:thumbsup

Hopefully Ramirez can improve his bat, because DAMN is he fast!! The more times on base he is, the more chance for some Miggie RBIs. Good choice, though, they both should have good fantasy seasons.

[DmBand801]

solid start to 2007 for the mets...like Kirkjian, Gammons and Kruk said, they're the team to beat in the NL with that offense

[dmbgodagirl41]

all i know is the Yankees are losing to TB right now, so that's damn sweet.

[devilandthelord]

Fuck Yes! The Indians are making an abomination of the White Sox today!
It is now 11-2 in the 3rd inning.
Plus, as an added bonus for me, I have Grady Sizemore on my fantasy team and he has homered and scored twice already!
What a great start for the Tribe!

[UNC41]

Sheets' complete game is a nice way to start the fantasy season. Sabathia should get me a win too.

[ProudestAnt]

Today's a great day for me thus far. Crawford, Hanley Ramirez, Miggie, Sheets...

[SatelliteEyes]

Ben Sheets

9IP 2H 1R 1ER 3K 0BB

Retired 22 in a row at one point.

Freakin Sweet.

[SatelliteEyes]

Oh and my fantasy team consists of Cabrera, Dunn and Renteria. Nothing like getting 5 HRs on opening day.

[SatelliteEyes]

It's The Ballpark in Arlington...we don't have a corporate name.

On May 7, 2004 the Rangers announced a deal with Ameriquest Mortgage Company to immediately rename their ballpark Ameriquest Field in Arlington. The 30-year agreement was reported to be for about $75 million. A crisis in the subprime mortgage industry caused Ameriquest to give up its naming rights, and on March 1, 2007 the team announced the stadium would be called Rangers Ballpark in Arlington.


Looks like we are both right. I knew they were called Ameriquest field, I didnt know that it had gone back to The Ballpark because Ameriquest went under. They naming rights will be sold off again for next year I am sure. All parks do it now.

[jmudmbphan]

all i know is the Yankees are losing to TB right now, so that's damn sweet.

looks like you spoke a little soon missy...

schilling getting rocked by the royals makes me :D

[Tiduwho]

Schilling and Webb suck. Can't believe I forgot to put Glavine in yesterday. Jeez this sucks.

[jmudmbphan]

i have schilling on my team too, i let the computer pick for me..although i really dotn care he can get beat up like this every game and i could really care less...

i dont see him having too great of a year, i think hes definitely past his prime..just like randy was for us..

[kevinmavs]

Looks like we are both right. I knew they were called Ameriquest field, I didnt know that it had gone back to The Ballpark because Ameriquest went under. They naming rights will be sold off again for next year I am sure. All parks do it now.

You actually were not right...it was Ameriquest yes. But to me it's always been The Ballpark In Arlington...every ranger fan you talk to will tell you that. Also they will not be sold off there is a 30 year deal. It's actually now Rangers Ballpark in Arlington. The Rangers are the company that has the name for 30 years now. Corporate sponsoring really blows.

I have season tickets and it just wasn't right going to the park and seeing some huge bell out in left field and hearing the PA announcer call it Ameriquest Field in Arlington.

[crashintome202]

all i know is the Yankees are losing to TB right now, so that's damn sweet.
all i know is that the sox looked like a AAA team facing GIL MECHE.

[SatelliteEyes]

You actually were not right...it was Ameriquest yes. But to me it's always been The Ballpark In Arlington...every ranger fan you talk to will tell you that. Also they will not be sold off there is a 30 year deal. It's actually now Rangers Ballpark in Arlington. The Rangers are the company that has the name for 30 years now. Corporate sponsoring really blows.

I have season tickets and it just wasn't right going to the park and seeing some huge bell out in left field and hearing the PA announcer call it Ameriquest Field in Arlington.

So I wasnt right when I said your Ballpark had a corporate name the last two years when really it did? :confused And to prove I wasnt right you say that it is because "real" fans still called it The Ballpark?

Ameriquest gave up the deal on March 1, 2007, so up until then it was called Ameriquest field. Forgive me for not being 100% up to date on all the happeneings of a baseball field in Texas.

[kevinmavs]

no because in the first place you called it ameriquest....but it doesn't matter because it's stupid for us to argue about something that dumb

[dmbfd15]

yes two more outs in the baltimore/minnesota game then the rangers opener :) im optimistic as always at the beginning of the season :)

[dmbfd15]

alright here we go yall prepare to watch kevin millwood pitch a perfect game and sosa homer twice:lol :lol :lol

[dmbfd15]

who the hell is frank catalanotto

[Tiduwho]

who the hell is frank catalanotto

He does a great John Madden.

[kevinmavs]

haha....so does anybody else have a problem with a player leaving for free agency but going straight to one of your division foes

[dmbfd15]

well so much for his perfect game

[dmbfd15]

haha....so does anybody else have a problem with a player leaving for free agency but going straight to one of your division foes


i do...he was my favorite ranger

[kevinmavs]

i do like seeing kenny lofton stealing that base...i don't think we stole a base last year until may it seems like...sarcasm of course

[SoRight24]

haha....so does anybody else have a problem with a player leaving for free agency but going straight to one of your division foes

Like that fucker Johnny Damon?

I wish I would see him walking down the street. :violent

[dmbfd15]

Like that fucker Johnny Damon?

I wish I would see him walking down the street. :violent

ya thats a little bigger deal than gary matthews

[dmbfd15]

alright first to sosa will be a homer....

[kevinmavs]

it's just that pain in my heart i felt when GMJ robbed Tex of a basehit a minute ago....like a sword i the chest man

[Tiduwho]

Schilling and Webb suck. Can't believe I forgot to put Glavine in yesterday. Jeez this sucks.

Add Bedard to the list. POS pitchers.

[dmbfd15]

take that gary matthews :) home run

[wxdudes]

Twins are under the radar again. See ya in october.

[Pengin4192]

The real opening day was this afternoon, and the Reds looked great in it.

[Bartndrpleez]

The real opening day was this afternoon, and the Reds looked great in it.

As did the Fish. :D

[jordonh]

Ill take the team with : Cy Young, MVP, Batting Title, guy with Gold Glove, guy with Most Strikeouts, best bullpen......TWINS!

[dmblynny]

The Phillies lost... I never saw that comin'!!!! :) Thank God there's a 160+ left to go... :D

[Bartender84]

Mariners record against Oakland last year: 2-17 :lorraine
Mariners record against Oakland so far this year: 1-0 :D

Felix Hernandez is a beast

[gravedigger13]

Gary Sheffield hits the ball hard.

[UNC41]

Schilling and Webb suck. Can't believe I forgot to put Glavine in yesterday. Jeez this sucks.

My combo of Sheets and Hernandez was just a bit better yesterday.

[DmBand801]

offer in my fantasy league...see what you guys think:

i get: david wright and carlos guillen

i give up: derek jeter, curt schilling and melvin mora

--i have a plentiful amount of starters and the kid will do anything possible to get jeter

[Ascf33]

The Red Sox lost to the Royals. lolz

[SatelliteEyes]

offer in my fantasy league...see what you guys think:

i get: david wright and carlos guillen

i give up: derek jeter, curt schilling and melvin mora

--i have a plentiful amount of starters and the kid will do anything possible to get jeter

That seems to be a pretty good deal in your favor. Guillen isnt that far behind Jeter. Wright is a monster. Mora is a non-factor in the deal. Well done.

[kevinmavs]

make that trade for sure

[kevinmavs]

guillen is very underrated

[VanHorneDog]

so, how about my padres??? damn straight.

[thedeathwish]

yeah, your padres spanked my giants.

only 161 losses to go for us this season.

[VanHorneDog]

yeah, your padres spanked my giants.

only 161 losses to go for us this season.

nah, im sure one day you will win one or two.

[kevinmavs]

ur padres are my fantasy league pitching staff and they gave me 33.5 points today with that shutout

[Bartndrpleez]

Marlins 2-0. Outscoring the Nats 18-5 in two games. Let's keep it up. :D

[Bartender84]

M's off to a much better start than I anticipated.

[jmudmbphan]

nats are going to be the worst team in b aseball this year

[SatelliteEyes]

The Nats could be historically bad this year.

[dmbfd15]

The Rangers are killin me already...:(

[Tiduwho]

The Nats could be historically bad this year.

I figured Soriano would be like Randy Moss, addition by subtraction. No?

[~Crashintome89~]

Oh God, my Nats blow. Not to mention the fact that we DLed two starters the other day.

[SatelliteEyes]

I figured Soriano would be like Randy Moss, addition by subtraction. No?

How so? He had a monster year last year and once he took to the outfield he basically kept his mouth shut and played well. He had a career year, one that I doubt he ever repeats, as it was head and shoulders above his career norms.

Outside of John Patterson and Chad Cordero Washington's pitching will have a tough time getting AA hitters out.

[SatelliteEyes]

Oh God, my Nats blow. Not to mention the fact that we DLed two starters the other day.

You guys are better off without Guzman and Logan, they are hardly starters.

[Sutmaster6]

Gary Sheffield hits the ball hard.

I hope he helps Detriot out.

[Tiduwho]

How so? He had a monster year last year and once he took to the outfield he basically kept his mouth shut and played well. He had a career year, one that I doubt he ever repeats, as it was head and shoulders above his career norms.

Outside of John Patterson and Chad Cordero Washington's pitching will have a tough time getting AA hitters out.

I figured you were a Pack fan...and could laugh at the Vikings for their "addition by subtraction, NOW we'll win the Super Bowl" banter again.

[SatelliteEyes]

I figured you were a Pack fan...and could laugh at the Vikings for their "addition by subtraction, NOW we'll win the Super Bowl" banter again.

Ah, I didnt catch that. I like the Packers, but Im not a diehard, and didn't catch the reference.

[kevinmavs]

i'm a packer fan and live pretty much in the metroplex...talk about taking hell

[UNC41]

Vlad's killing Texas pitching. Weird.

[Bartndrpleez]

Well, I guess you gotta slip up eventually. I knew the bullpen was going to give us problems. My Fish gave up 3 runs in the 9th and the Nats won 7-6. Oh well. :shrug

[devilandthelord]

Woohoo!!! 2 Run Homer for Grady Sizemore to give the Indians an 8-7 lead over the White Sox!
That kid is big time! Look out for a phenomenal season from him.

Oh, and he's on my fantasy team too. Bonus!

[SatelliteEyes]

Vlad's killing Texas pitching. Weird.

Texas pitching getting rocked? That is strange.

[UNC41]

Texas pitching getting rocked? That is strange.

Since Vlad signed with the Angels he's hit in 55 out of 58 games against the Rangers. So far this year I believe he's 6-9 with a home run, two doubles and 4 RBIs. That's my boy.

[gravedigger13]

I guess the Indians won't need pitching if they continue to score runs at this clip...

[Bartndrpleez]

Woohoo!!! 2 Run Homer for Grady Sizemore to give the Indians an 8-7 lead over the White Sox!
That kid is big time! Look out for a phenomenal season from him.

Oh, and he's on my fantasy team too. Bonus!

Same here. Good stuff. :thumbsup

[kevinmavs]

you can't pitch to vlad. if it's a foot off the plate he can reach it. it's rediculous he is a freak of nature.

[VanHorneDog]

how about that josh bard from san diego? 4/5. i just benched victor martinez.

[ProudestAnt]

how about that josh bard from san diego? 4/5. i just benched victor martinez.
:lol I really hope you're not serious...

[VanHorneDog]

:lol I really hope you're not serious...

no i really did yesterday.

[JeffDMB41PT]

I caught foul ball at the Tigers game today !!!!!! It was my first one even though Ive been going to MLB games for years. Pretty exciting :thumbsup

[ProudestAnt]

*fist pump* Ervin Santana. Hell of a pick-up for me. This kid's a future ace...

[justinandimcool]

*fist pump* Ervin Santana. Hell of a pick-up for me. This kid's a future ace...

:thumbsup My buddy picked him up too. I gave him a man hug for it. I caught about 5 innings of him today. Not afraid to go to work deep in the count. Helps to have gloves and a solid bullpen behind him too. This Angels team reminds me alot of 02. It depends alot on the rooks they have as 4 and 5 starters. If they're good...watch out.

[bartenderchris]

I caught foul ball at the Tigers game today !!!!!! It was my first one even though Ive been going to MLB games for years. Pretty exciting :thumbsup

Nice man, I have great seats every time I go and never even been really close

[bartenderchris]

no i really did yesterday.

4/4 That sucks

[Tiduwho]

Beckett better keep it up. I can't handle another SP meltdown.

[Tiduwho]

Add Bedard to the list. POS pitchers.



Wow, what a disappointing 5,000th post. :shrug

[UNC41]

*fist pump* Ervin Santana. Hell of a pick-up for me. This kid's a future ace...

He was a free agent? Wow.

[ProudestAnt]

D-Mat was nothing but filthy today. 7 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 1 HR, 1.29 ERA, 1 BB, 10 Ks...

[bartenderchris]

D-Mat was nothing but filthy today. 7 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 1 HR, 1.29 ERA, 1 BB, 10 Ks...

Yea I was watching the stat line on Yahoo all day. Just waiting for KC to put up a big number but from the line I bet he looked damn good today.

[justinandimcool]

Piazza just put the A's ahead in the 9th inning with a solo shot, his first time facing a K-Rod slider. Hot damn.

[crashintome202]

Piazza just put the A's ahead in the 9th inning with a solo shot, his first time facing a K-Rod slider. Hot damn.
did you hear baseball is looking into K-Rod cheating. i got the video: http://media.putfile.com/Francisco-Rodrigu...igh-Res-Version (http://media.putfile.com/Francisco-Rodriguez-Cheating-High-Res-Version)

[justinandimcool]

Yep saw it on the news down here. Bastard. Hope it's nothing though.

[kevinmavs]

you should have seen the game monday night...i was going crazy because our team never said anything about it. if you watched the game wednesday when he came on to close you would have seen that there was no white stuff under the hat..and he also couldn't find the strike zone.

i'm not saying he had a bad outing wednesday because he needs that substance but it was a substantially different pitcher monday with the stuff under the hat than wednesday without it

it was blatant monday night. wednesday he never touched the brim of his hat.

[kevinmavs]

home opener today at the ballpark...gonna go tailgate...Rangers and Red Sox yall have a great day I know i will.

[gravedigger13]

you should have seen the game monday night...i was going crazy because our team never said anything about it. if you watched the game wednesday when he came on to close you would have seen that there was no white stuff under the hat..and he also couldn't find the strike zone.

i'm not saying he had a bad outing wednesday because he needs that substance but it was a substantially different pitcher monday with the stuff under the hat than wednesday without it

it was blatant monday night. wednesday he never touched the brim of his hat.

Orel Hershiser and Fernando Vina didn't seem to think it was a big deal. Just a pitcher trying to get a better grip on the ball.

[crashintome202]

Orel Hershiser and Fernando Vina didn't seem to think it was a big deal. Just a pitcher trying to get a better grip on the ball.
well of course orel wont care he was a pitcher:lol
you're supposed to get suspended for 10 games if caught with say pine tar.

[UNC41]

well of course orel wont care he was a pitcher:lol
you're supposed to get suspended for 10 games if caught with say pine tar.

They're claiming it's rosin, which is white. It'll be tough to prove it wasn't.

[kevinmavs]

they were claiming it was Resin...not Rosin...but that could be the same thing. I thought Resin was in weed though. The dude cheated.

He didn't dare touch his hat wednesday and he walked the bases loaded. Monday he was feeling that hat like they were some titties.

[justinandimcool]

Please god, I hope Penny pitches well tonight. Still waiting for a consistent season for him.

[dmbfd15]

Home opener today folks...the only game that the Rangers sell out every year :)

[hearmorphish]

home opener monday! finally! lets go mets!:monkey

[bartenderchris]

did you hear baseball is looking into K-Rod cheating. i got the video: http://media.putfile.com/Francisco-Rodrigu...igh-Res-Version (http://media.putfile.com/Francisco-Rodriguez-Cheating-High-Res-Version)

Wow that just looks bad, at least if you cheat do a better job of hiding it.

[boobookittyfuk]

holy crap i just saw this on the news. now i know that the game in detroit yesterday was called ahead of time for reasons of cold weather and so was the game today in chicago, but the indians and mariners were playing in cleveland, indians up 4-0 and the mariners had bases loaded, it was literally one out from being a completed official game, and the umps called it because of the cold and wind. :p

[kevinmavs]

who says the rangers can't pitch...great job Robinson Tejeda

[JeffDMB41PT]

Wow that just looks bad, at least if you cheat do a better job of hiding it.

what are you talking about? him touching the underside of his hat? meh.

[nolan8or]

i can't stand Francisco Rodriguez.

[justinandimcool]

Penny pitched well tonight. 10 hits and a run. I'll take it. Hopefully he can do that more often in August and September.

Lowe has a lot of pressure on him tomorrow after a bad outing in Milwaukee. He'll pull through, I hope.

[junior94]

Gee, here's some perspective on how cold it's been lately. Just saw on Sportscenter, they said the game in Cincinnati today between the Reds & Pirates, it was colder than any of the Bengals' football home games from last season. That's damn cold!

[dmbfd15]

who says the rangers can't pitch...great job Robinson Tejeda

:bounce :thumbsup :thumbsup :bounce :D :D

[Bartender84]

Thanks alot, Cleveland weather, for ruining my weekend and fucking up the Mariners schedule this year

[Tomriddle]

I'm either a Mets or Yankees fan, depending who im with

[xBigNastyx]

I'm either a Mets or Yankees fan, depending who im with


That is extremely pathetic.

[SatelliteEyes]

Thanks alot, Cleveland weather, for ruining my weekend and fucking up the Mariners schedule this year

Why the fuck they would schedule games the first week in Cleveland (or Detroit, Chicago, etc) when teams like Seattle (dome/roof) and Dodgers open on the road is beyond me.

[gravedigger13]

Mr. April is at it again.

[jmudmbphan]

yanks rotation starting to come around nicely..i will also say the bulpen is doing a phenomenal job so far too

[SoRight24]

That is extremely pathetic.

:lol :lol

:thumbsup

[jmudmbphan]

I dont think tom was serious...at least i hope not

[ProudestAnt]

yanks rotation starting to come around nicely..i will also say the bulpen is doing a phenomenal job so far too They had two good outings, and you should know that your bullpen can't keep that up all season. The pitching is going to catch up to you, you and I both know that...

[Ascf33]

Arod!

[jmudmbphan]

They had two good outings, and you should know that your bullpen can't keep that up all season. The pitching is going to catch up to you, you and I both know that...

Pitching was quite good last year...and they upgraded..why cant they do at least as good as last y ear or better?

[ProudestAnt]

Why the fuck they would schedule games the first week in Cleveland (or Detroit, Chicago, etc) when teams like Seattle (dome/roof) and Dodgers open on the road is beyond me.
Because teams such as Tampa Bay and Seattle request to start the season on the road. That's right, two of the worst teams in the league requested to start on the road, so the league said ok. As was said on Mike and Mike,

"How about this, I REQUEST that you spend more than $23 million on your entire team. I REQUEST that you spend your money on an actual baseball player. I REQUEST that you shut up and take the schedule you're given until you field a respectable baseball team."

[ProudestAnt]

Pitching was quite good last year...and they upgraded..why cant they do at least as good as last y ear or better? They upgraded to what? You lost RJ, and got Pettite. I call that a write off. And you can't judge Igawa yet. You still have Pavano. And Wang isn't going to surprise anyone this year, as was already evident. Your only hope is to bludgen every team to death, and your lineup isn't even as good as it was last year, sooooo, where's it going to come from?

[ProudestAnt]

Arod! Until the all-star break, then he'll remember where he's playing and shit himself before every game like he did last year...

[jmudmbphan]

yeah i have no respect for clubs that refuse to spend money on players..fuck them.

[jmudmbphan]

They upgraded to what? You lost RJ, and got Pettite. I call that a write off. And you can't judge Igawa yet. You still have Pavano. And Wang isn't going to surprise anyone this year, as was already evident. Your only hope is to bludgen every team to death, and your lineup isn't even as good as it was last year, sooooo, where's it going to come from?


we lost RJ and his 5.00 era. we got pettite a proven performer who can handle the pressure. Id call that an uprgrade We got Pavano back healthy, finally. Hes an uprgrade from nothing. Wang and mussina are both going to very solid starters and more than enough to win games. Igawa, we will have to wait and see...once he gets his command under control, hes going to be fine. mabye not great, but decent.

The lineup is better this year...we upgraded defensively at first. we lost sheff, a clubhouse cancer, and picked up abreu, an onbase machine. cano is a year older, melky is a year older. Arod, so far, is looking to have a career year. I dont see how the lineup is worse.

[Ascf33]

Until the all-star break, then he'll remember where he's playing and shit himself before every game like he did last year...

:lol

We shall see I guess.

[jmudmbphan]

Not to mention, I strongly feel clemens is coming back to the bronx if and when he comes back this season.

[ProudestAnt]

we lost RJ and his 5.00 era. we got pettite a proven performer who can handle the pressure. Id call that an uprgrade We got Pavano back healthy, finally. Hes an uprgrade from nothing. Wang and mussina are both going to very solid starters and more than enough to win games. Igawa, we will have to wait and see...once he gets his command under control, hes going to be fine. mabye not great, but decent.

The lineup is better this year...we upgraded defensively at first. we lost sheff, a clubhouse cancer, and picked up abreu, an onbase machine. cano is a year older, melky is a year older. Arod, so far, is looking to have a career year. I dont see how the lineup is worse. You also lost 4 wins from last season. RJ was 17-11 with a 5.00 ERA, and Pettite was 14-13 with a 4.20 ERA. That's a write-off to me. You may se your line-up as better, but let's put Sheff and his .297, 456 HR, 1505 RBIs in at DH, Giambi at first, and Abreu in RF and see what you get. He may have been a cancer, but there's no way for you to argue that your line-up is as good as it would be with him still in it...

[jmudmbphan]

You also lost 4 wins from last season. RJ was 17-11 with a 5.00 ERA, and Pettite was 14-13 with a 4.20 ERA. That's a write-off to me. You may se your line-up as better, but let's put Sheff and his .297, 456 HR, 1505 RBIs in at DH, Giambi at first, and Abreu in RF and see what you get. He may have been a cancer, but there's no way for you to argue that your line-up is as good as it would be with him still in it...

not to mention he was out for almost the whole season..matsui too...and we managed to put up almost a 1000 runs.........

[ProudestAnt]

Picture a line-up of:
Damon
Jeter
Abreu
A-Rod
Giambi
Sheff
Cano
Matsui
Posada

Most teams wouldn't even play you, they'd just forfeit...

[ProudestAnt]

not to mention he was out for almost the whole season..matsui too...and we managed to put up almost a 1000 runs......... Exactly...

[jmudmbphan]

Picture a line-up of:
Damon
Jeter
Abreu
A-Rod
Giambi
Sheff
Cano
Matsui
Posada

Most teams wouldn't even play you, they'd just forfeit...

right but keep in mind....we didnt have sheff or matsui for the majority of last season...and look at the offense.....if judging last seasons lineup we need to look at what they did with the players in the lineup...not the possibilities....

[jmudmbphan]

Exactly...

and now that we have matsui back for the rest of the season, hopefully, we should surpass that........

I dont see your point...you said last years lineup(wihtout sheff and matsui) was better than this years.....

[ProudestAnt]

and now that we have matsui back for the rest of the season, hopefully, we should surpass that........

I dont see your point...you said last years lineup(wihtout sheff and matsui) was better than this years..... Right, but picture having Matsui AND Sheff back for the whole season. When I said that you downgraded your lineup, I meant potential lineup. The guys on your roster who could potentially wind up in your everyday lineup. With Sheff you're a much better squad offensively than without him.

[jmudmbphan]

Right, but picture having Matsui AND Sheff back for the whole season. When I said that you downgraded your lineup, I meant potential lineup. The guys on your roster who could potentially wind up in your everyday lineup. With Sheff you're a much better squad offensively than without him.


Ohh alright.

Offensively, yes we would be bettter....But we can do without that extra offense and have a very solid first baseman...overall, i think that makes us a better ballclub.

I think josh phelps will turn into a very nice offensive addition for us at some point...

[UNC41]

You also lost 4 wins from last season. RJ was 17-11 with a 5.00 ERA, and Pettite was 14-13 with a 4.20 ERA. That's a write-off to me. You may se your line-up as better, but let's put Sheff and his .297, 456 HR, 1505 RBIs in at DH, Giambi at first, and Abreu in RF and see what you get. He may have been a cancer, but there's no way for you to argue that your line-up is as good as it would be with him still in it...

The Unit and Pettite are more of a wash when you take into consideration Randy was pitching in the AL and Andy in the NL.

[lennon2324]

The Unit and Pettite are more of a wash when you take into consideration Randy was pitching in the AL and Andy in the NL.



pettite has already proven he can pitch in new york and that was one of the main reasons we got him...the way i see it, it is a huge upgrade

[UNC41]

pettite has already proven he can pitch in new york and that was one of the main reasons we got him...the way i see it, it is a huge upgrade

Pitching in the AL is tougher than the NL. That's what I'm saying. I don't see how you can disagree with that.

[jmudmbphan]

I dont think he is disagreeing with that. Simply, pettite has proven he can perform in new york..especially when it counts. The difference or "wash" in era is neglible when taking this into consideration...thus making pettite an upgrade over rj...era is a moot point.

[UNC41]

The Unit has proven he can perform in New York too, unless 17-8 with an ERA under 4.00 is no longer considered good. And how is the ERA a wash? I don't get how you can it makes no difference.

[jmudmbphan]

The Unit has proven he can perform in New York too, unless 17-8 with an ERA under 4.00 is no longer considered good. And how is the ERA a wash? I don't get how you can it makes no difference.

...becuase he was 0-1 with a 7 era for the yankees in the post season......which is when it counts....pettite has proven he can do much..much better thanthat....which is why regular season stats are pretty much meaningless...given the yankees make it to the playoffs every year and need pitching help then

[SatelliteEyes]

which is why regular season stats are pretty much meaningless

Yes, those regular season stats that are based on hundreds and hundreds of innings pitched and/or at bats are meaningless and one start or at bat in October tells the whole story. :rolleyes

[jmudmbphan]

Yes, those regular season stats that are based on hundreds and hundreds of innings pitched and/or at bats are meaningless and one start or at bat in October tells the whole story. :rolleyes

youve taken it completely out of context..

when trying to determine which player is an upgrade..rj or pettite...looking at their reg. season stats are pretty much meaningless....the yankees are getting to the playoffs regardless.....its what they do in the playoffs that counts...

[Tiduwho]

So far I'm not regretting taking Beckett as my 3rd pitcher. That's good at least.

[jmudmbphan]

i just dont see how one could say RJ and his 7.00 post season era with the yankees is a wash when compared to pettite and his proven outstanding post season record with the yankees.

[SatelliteEyes]

youve taken it completely out of context..

when trying to determine which player is an upgrade..rj or pettite...looking at their reg. season stats are pretty much meaningless....the yankees are getting to the playoffs regardless.....its what they do in the playoffs that counts...

I'll take the guy, whoever it is, who throws a dominant regular season, thank you.

Both guys are over the hill and I dont know if I'd want either starting over someone like Roy Oswalt, Rich Harden, Ben Sheets, etc. etc. no matter what they have done in the past. The Yankees have nobody like that. Wang is their best starter and he a flukishly good season last year. His strikeout rate was about the lowest in the majors and he is unlikely to repeat 19 wins.

What Pettitte did in pinstripes 5-10 years ago in a few starts in October means NOTHING today.

[Tiduwho]

Anyone else in a ESPN fantasy league?

We have explored and tested every possible solution and it is clear that the nature of the issues leave us with a single, necessary action to get the game back on track and ensure the integrity of the season.

Late on Wednesday night the ESPN Fantasy team will:
1) Revert all teams to their opening day rosters (Sunday, April 1).
2) Set the starting lineup of each team's opening day roster as the active roster for all games played to date (April 1 - April 11).
3) Retroactively apply scoring for the entire season to date based on that roster.
4) Void all transactions to date (trades, waiver pickups, roster moves, etc.).

Following these changes, all players not on a roster will be placed on waivers for 24 hours, and the waiver order for each league will be restored to where it was on Opening Day. ~



so apparently, everyone's roster is going to be reset to what you had initially. all trades and transactions will become void as if they never happened. and espn will calculate the points based of the first 8 games by your opening day rosters. Gayer than AIDs.

[Ascf33]

I'll take the guy, whoever it is, who throws a dominant regular season, thank you.

Both guys are over the hill and I dont know if I'd want either starting over someone like Roy Oswalt, Rich Harden, Ben Sheets, etc. etc. no matter what they have done in the past. The Yankees have nobody like that. Wang is their best starter and he a flukishly good season last year. His strikeout rate was about the lowest in the majors and he is unlikely to repeat 19 wins.

What Pettitte did in pinstripes 5-10 years ago in a few starts in October means NOTHING today.

You might as well go be on Baseball Tonight... extreme predictions and opinions passing them as fact to the retarded viewer/listener.

and Andy Pettitte is 2nd all time in career post season wins... with 14. Maybe you can turn a blind eye to that, most other people can't.

[SatelliteEyes]

You might as well go be on Baseball Tonight... extreme predictions and opinions passing them as fact to the retarded viewer/listener.

Are you kidding? What "extreme predictions or opinion" am I passing off as fact?

That the Yankees pitching stinks and Andy Pettitte isnt 29 years old anymore? Yeah, that opinion is waaaayyy off. :rolleyes

[jmudmbphan]

I'll take the guy, whoever it is, who throws a dominant regular season, thank you.

Both guys are over the hill and I dont know if I'd want either starting over someone like Roy Oswalt, Rich Harden, Ben Sheets, etc. etc. no matter what they have done in the past. The Yankees have nobody like that. Wang is their best starter and he a flukishly good season last year. His strikeout rate was about the lowest in the majors and he is unlikely to repeat 19 wins.

What Pettitte did in pinstripes 5-10 years ago in a few starts in October means NOTHING today.

the entire problem with the yankees lately is that they havent had a pitcher who can produce consistently inthe playoffs...you take the guy who does well in the reg. season..ill take the guy who does well in the post season..well see who comes out on top.

pettite is far from over the hill..he will still produce for the yanks.

wang isnt a strikeout pitcher, hes a groundball pitcher...and a very effective one at that.

and lastly..."a few starts in October" ....how about the most post season starts and innings pitched in baseball history.......

[SatelliteEyes]

the entire problem with the yankees lately is that they havent had a pitcher who can produce consistently inthe playoffs...you take the guy who does well in the reg. season..ill take the guy who does well in the post season..well see who comes out on top.

pettite is far from over the hill..he will still produce for the yanks.

wang isnt a strikeout pitcher, hes a groundball pitcher...and a very effective one at that.

and lastly..."a few starts in October" ....how about the most post season starts and innings pitched in baseball history.......

I'll give you Jeff Suppan and Jeff Weaver in the playoffs (Last year's NLCS MVP and World Series stars), I'll take someone like Brandon Webb or Ben Sheets or Rich Harden or CC Sabathia.

I like my chances.

As far as Pettitte goes, he is still a good pitcher, but not the same guy who pitched in 1996-2000 for the Yanks.

I like Pettitte, but actually you may be interested that he has a career regular season ERA of 3.80 and a career postseason ERA of 4.08. So he hasnt even been a good in the postseason as he is in the regular season. The fact that he has 18 post season wins probably has something to do with pitching for the best offense in baseball over that time span and having the Best Closer in baseball as well.

[jmudmbphan]

perhaps...but you are naming some of the best young stars in the league..im not saying pettite is the best..im saying he is a consistent performer fo rthe yanks..much more so than rj..

and frankly..we dont know if hes the same guy that pitched for the yanks in 03...that remains to be seen...

and yes..he had the best offense in baseball and the best closer....but guess what...he still has those....

[Ascf33]

Are you kidding? What "extreme predictions or opinion" am I passing off as fact?

That the Yankees pitching stinks and Andy Pettitte isnt 29 years old anymore? Yeah, that opinion is waaaayyy off. :rolleyes

1. We're only 7 games into the season and the 2 pitchers that have pitched twice have already redeamed their 1st shitty start with solid outings and wins.

2. Regardless of age... Andy Pettitte has 14 postseason wins... 2nd most all time behind John Smoltz. This cannot be ignored.

3. Wang was runner up for the Cy Young last year. yes he didn't strike people out... but he lead the league in ground ball outs. His ERA was below 4. You saying he's not going to be as good this year is like me saying the Red Sox aren't going to make the playoffs this year. Its nothing but an opinon.

[SatelliteEyes]

you clearly don't even know what the guy has done..how are you talking about him like you do?

I dont know what Pettitte has done? Ive seen every World Series from about 1991-2006. Im pretty sure I know what he has done. Not to mention there is this thing called the Internet where you can access old information about people, especially baseball players, and they keep the information in this neato statistical format.

[jmudmbphan]

I dont know what Pettitte has done? Ive seen every World Series from about 1991-2006. Im pretty sure I know what he has done. Not to mention there is this thing called the Internet where you can access old information about people, especially baseball players, and they keep the information in this neato statistical format.

i know, i edited...i simply said that becuse you saying a few starts in october made it come across as not knowing much about the guy who has the most postseason starts and innings in baseball history...

[UNC41]

i just dont see how one could say RJ and his 7.00 post season era with the yankees is a wash when compared to pettite and his proven outstanding post season record with the yankees.

If you want to make an argument against Johnson because of his age and being injury prone recently, I get it. It does not, however, make any sense to suggest a guy who did what Johnson did in 2001 can't handle playing for the Yankees.

[jmudmbphan]

If you want to make an argument against Johnson because of his age and being injury prone recently, I get it. It does not, however, make any sense to suggest a guy who did what Johnson did in 2001 can't handle playing for the Yankees.

he clearly couldnt handle it in his postseason appearances......

[SatelliteEyes]

i know, i edited...i simply said that becuse you saying a few starts in october made it come across as not knowing much about the guy who has the most starts and innings in baseball history...

I think we are arguing apples and oranges. You are arguing Pettitte vs. Johnson. I dont necessarily disagree with you. I think Pettitte will have a better year than Johnson and will be a better pitcher and therefore will be a better option in the postseason.

I just disagree with your reasoning. Just because Pettitte had a few good post seasons in the 90s doesnt mean that he is a lock down pitcher in the postseason today. Postseason success/failure is based on small sample sizes and I dont put much stock in them. Give me someone who is dominant in the regular season.

Who would you rather have up to bat with 2 outs and the tying run on third base in the World Series, game 7...A-Rod or Scott Brosius? Give me A-Rod everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

Brosius in the World Series hit .314 with 4 HRs and an OPS of about .850, but that doesnt change the fact that he was a .250 hitter.

[UNC41]

he clearly couldnt handle it in his postseason appearances......

Johnson had a herniated disc last year. That had nothing to do with it? In 2005 he had one poor performance and then a very good one in relief of Mussina, who was shelled by the Angels. The Moose has struggled in two of his last three postseason starts over the past two years, just like Johnson. Is it time to throw him under the bus too

Like I said, if you want to make the age an injury argument I get it.

[jmudmbphan]

I think we are arguing apples and oranges. You are arguing Pettitte vs. Johnson. I dont necessarily disagree with you. I think Pettitte will have a better year than Johnson and will be a better pitcher and therefore will be a better option in the postseason.

I just disagree with your reasoning. Just because Pettitte had a few good post seasons in the 90s doesnt mean that he is a lock down pitcher in the postseason today. Postseason success/failure is based on small sample sizes and I dont put much stock in them. Give me someone who is dominant in the regular season.

Who would you rather have up to bat with 2 outs and the tying run on third base in the World Series, game 7...A-Rod or Scott Brosius? Give me A-Rod everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

Brosius in the World Series hit .314 with 4 HRs and an OPS of about .850, but that doesnt change the fact that he was a .250 hitter.

see...id take brosius in that scenario..i guess thats just the mentality of a yankee fan

agree to disagree

[SatelliteEyes]

see...id take brosius in that scenario..i guess thats just the mentality of a yankee fan

agree to disagree

:BANG

I suppose you'd want Jim Leyritz over someone like Joe Mauer too. ;)

By the way, A-Rod postseason stats vs. Brosius

Brosius - .245/.278/.418 = .696 OPS
A-Rod - .280/.362/.485 = .847 OPS

A-Rod ALCS vs. Brosius World Series

Brosius = .314/.333/.529 = .861
A-Rod .315/.413/.611 = 1.024 OPS


A-Rod can play on my team any day of the week (even if he is a dick).

[jmudmbphan]

hey..let arod get us to the series ONCE..let alone help win it and well talk....brosius was the man for the yankees.....you dont forget that.

[SatelliteEyes]

hey..let arod get us to the series ONCE..let alone help win it and well talk....brosius was the man for the yankees.....you dont forget that.

Actually no he wasnt, he was a below average hitting thirdbaseman just about the entire time he was there. 70 post season at bats does not change that.

[jmudmbphan]

Actually no he wasnt, he was a below average hitting thirdbaseman just about the entire time he was there. 70 post season at bats does not change that.

allli can say is, he produced when it really counted on the biggest stage....thats the most important thing when looking at who to put up there in a single game 7 at bat...arods 4-41? in his last post season at bats....why would you want that up there?

I was refering to his playoff clutch hitting....im not saying i want him over arod for good..you said...one atbat in game 7.....

[SatelliteEyes]

allli can say is, he produced when it really counted on the biggest stage....thats the most important thing when looking at who to put up there in a single game 7 at bat...arods 4-41? in his last post season at bats....why would you want that up there?

I was refering to his playoff clutch hitting....im not saying i want him over arod for good..you said...one atbat in game 7.....

Because A-Rod isnt a .097 hitter. He is a .300 hitter who hits the shit out of the ball. He has been his entire career. Why the hell would you want Brosius up there when he was below average his entire career?

[jmudmbphan]

Because A-Rod isnt a .097 hitter. He is a .300 hitter who hits the shit out of the ball. He has been his entire career. Why the hell would you want Brosius up there when he was below average his entire career?

we are talking about clutch hitting int he postseason...brosius is a much better post season clutch hitter than arod.......which is why id want him to take a shot at the game 7 clutch hit...

[jmudmbphan]

just like robert horry isnt THAT great of a player...yet if it were a last second shot to win the nba finals, there are very few people id want taking it over him...its the same principal...

[UNC41]

I'm still curious if you are terrified with Mussina on the mound this October?

[jmudmbphan]

im not jumping for joy over it

[kevinmavs]

if we're comparing scott brosius and arod...and i believe we are, then we have a huge problem. Scott Brosius' problems were never magnified to the extent of arod's. The media could give a crap about Brosius.

[jmudmbphan]

i dont believe we are comparing the two as a whole..

simply, who I would want up there to take the atbat with 2 outs in game seven of the ws......

obviously, brosius doesnt touch arod in any other aspect....clutch hitting in the playoffs on the biggest stage...there is definitely an argument to be made for scottyb

[SatelliteEyes]

we are talking about clutch hitting int he postseason...brosius is a much better post season clutch hitter than arod.......which is why id want him to take a shot at the game 7 clutch hit...

:BANG

You mean Brosius has the hidden ability to all of the sudden STOP being a shitty hitter and all of the sudden become a BETTER hitter than a two-time MVP and 9 time All Star?

And what about 2001 when Brosius went.

.059 .111 .059 in the ALDS
.188 .188 .312 in the ALCS
167 .167 .375 in the WS

Did he forget how to be clutch?

You are basing your decision on basically 15-20 at bats and ingnoring close to 4,000 other at bats. You are delusional.

[jmudmbphan]

:BANG

You mean Brosius has the hidden ability to all of the sudden STOP being a shitty hitter and all of the sudden become a BETTER hitter than a two-time MVP and 9 time All Star?

And what about 2001 when Brosius went.

.059 .111 .059 in the ALDS
.188 .188 .312 in the ALCS
167 .167 .375 in the WS

Did he forget how to be clutch?

You are basing your decision on basically 15-20 at bats and ingnoring close to 4,000 other at bats. You are delusional.


so be it, im delusional..calm down....

id still take scotty.

[ProudestAnt]

...becuase he was 0-1 with a 7 era for the yankees in the post season......which is when it counts....pettite has proven he can do much..much better thanthat....which is why regular season stats are pretty much meaningless...given the yankees make it to the playoffs every year and need pitching help then So you take David Wells, John Smoltz, Greg Maddux and Andy Pettite (4 guys who have proven they can play in the post-season) and I'll take Johan Santana (1-3, 3.97ERA in the playoffs), Carlos Zambrano (0-1, 5.40 ERA), Jake Peavy (0-2, 12.10 ERA), and Roy Halladay (never been in the post-season), give them equal offenses, and equal bull-pens and we'll see who wins the WS that year...

[SatelliteEyes]

According to SI.com, Johan Santana has told the Twins that he won't negotiate again until he hits the open market.

We doubt that's really the case -- another round of offseason talks should be a possible -- but it's never been likely that the Twins would be able to extend the left-hander before he becomes a free agent after 2008. The team reportedly offered a two-year extension, worth about $18 million per year, with a club option for 2011. Santana, though, has absolutely no reason to accept something like that. He's in line to command $25 million per year as a free agent, which is why the Twins could try to trade him next winter. Apr. 11 - 3:23 pm et
Source: SI.com

[ProudestAnt]

According to SI.com, Johan Santana has told the Twins that he won't negotiate again until he hits the open market.

We doubt that's really the case -- another round of offseason talks should be a possible -- but it's never been likely that the Twins would be able to extend the left-hander before he becomes a free agent after 2008. The team reportedly offered a two-year extension, worth about $18 million per year, with a club option for 2011. Santana, though, has absolutely no reason to accept something like that. He's in line to command $25 million per year as a free agent, which is why the Twins could try to trade him next winter. Apr. 11 - 3:23 pm et
Source: SI.com Say hello to the newest Yankee mercenary:rolleyes

[lennon2324]

Say hello to the newest Yankee mercenary:rolleyes


maybe if the red sox didn't blow 146 mil on dice k they would be in the running

[lennon2324]

Pitching in the AL is tougher than the NL. That's what I'm saying. I don't see how you can disagree with that.

i wasn't disagreeing just making the point further

[ProudestAnt]

maybe if the red sox didn't blow 146 mil on dice k they would be in the running Ohh, good one. Still bitter about losing out on the bidding and having to settle for Pettite and Igawa?

[PipeandaCrepe]

subway series this year?

[lennon2324]

Ohh, good one. Still bitter about losing out on the bidding and having to settle for Pettite and Igawa?



not as bitter as you will be after santana outduels him at the stadium next year

[ProudestAnt]

not as bitter as you will be after santana outduels him at the stadium next year Yea, no, I'll be content after our WS win this season...

[ProudestAnt]

subway series this year? Not unless both teams find some pitching...

[lennon2324]

Yea, no, I'll be content after our WS win this season...



very confident...i guess you forgot you finished third last year

[SatelliteEyes]

you guys are pathetic.

[Ascf33]

very confident...i guess you forgot you finished third last year

This is something that Sox fans ignore once the new season starts. The past means nothing since, aside from 2004... its all pretty much grim.

[lennon2324]

agreed...i think most fans would rather they lost the world series so they continue to have a good reason for being bitter assholes

[Ascf33]

All the shit talking starts back up again in April... failing to consider they didn't even make the playoffs last year and we're raped by the Yanks AT HOME in a 5 games series in August that pretty much ended their season.

[UNC41]

Say hello to the newest Yankee mercenary:rolleyes

This argument lost any merit it had after Dice-K.

[ProudestAnt]

This argument lost any merit it had after Dice-K. Yea, notice I didn't say Yankees or Red Sox, which would have been the case before the Dice-K situation. We don't have the money to get into a bidding war. Plus, Dice-K wasn't proven in the league when we got him, which makes it worse, but you can't be a mercenary if you're not proven...

[ProudestAnt]

All the shit talking starts back up again in April... failing to consider they didn't even make the playoffs last year and we're raped by the Yanks in a 4 games series at the end of the season. :lol Oh yea, I forgot. Why even play the series this year? Let's just forfeit the games...

[Ascf33]

:lol Oh yea, I forgot. Why even play the series this year? Let's just forfeit the games...

But starting April 2... all this shit talk starts back up again from you guys. How can Sox fans be so cocky?

and Ryan I usually hold you seperate from the rest since you obviously think before posting. So don't think I'm lumping you in with the crazies.

[lennon2324]

:lol Oh yea, I forgot. Why even play the series this year? Let's just forfeit the games...

why would you forfeit??? you just crowned them world series champs lol

[ProudestAnt]

why would you forfeit??? you just crowned them world series champs lol It's a joke. From someone who doesn't understand how the baseball discussions on this site work, I don't doubt that you wouldn't understand where I'm coming from, but know that nothing I say matters. I joke a lot, and find the Yanks/Sox rivalry to be a joke. I want my team to win, I don't give a fuck who they beat. I think people who make a big deal about a rivalry such as this one need to grow the fuck up and appreciate the game for what it is, a GAME...

[SatelliteEyes]

Are you guys done fighting yet over who gets Santana?

Dont worry, whoever loses out probably will end up with Ben Sheets, not a bad consolation. Glad we (Twins and Brewers) could find that talent for you guys.

[UNC41]

Yea, notice I didn't say Yankees or Red Sox, which would have been the case before the Dice-K situation. We don't have the money to get into a bidding war. Plus, Dice-K wasn't proven in the league when we got him, which makes it worse, but you can't be a mercenary if you're not proven...

I personally considered Dice-K proven enough to be a mercenary after watching him in person at the WBC last year.

[ProudestAnt]

But starting April 2... all this shit talk starts back up again from you guys. How can Sox fans be so cocky?

and Ryan I usually hold you seperate from the rest since you obviously think before posting. So don't think I'm lumping you in with the crazies. Because it's a new season. Why should last season play any role in what happens this season? The sooner people start realizing that they shouldn't live in the past, the sooner they'll begin to love the game of baseball instead of just loving it when your team wins...

[ProudestAnt]

I personally considered Dice-K proven enough to be a mercenary after watching him in person at the WBC last year. You shouldn't have because many of the players in the WBC weren't trying. The Japanese were the only ones who really cared about winning because for them, it was about pride. For all the other players, it was a warm-up for the season that went horribly wrong...

[UNC41]

You shouldn't have because many of the players in the WBC weren't trying. The Japanese were the only ones who really cared about winning because for them, it was about pride. For all the other players, it was a warm-up for the season that went horribly wrong...

I don't believe for a minute that the Koreans and Cubans (who I saw Dice-K throw against) weren't giving their all.

[ProudestAnt]

I don't believe for a minute that the Koreans and Cubans (who I saw Dice-K throw against) weren't giving their all. :lol Ok, you have a point. But remember, it was the Koreans and the Cubans who haven't come to play in the US yet...

[UNC41]

:lol Ok, you have a point. But remember, it was the Koreans and the Cubans who haven't come to play in the US yet...

I agree. Dice-K was fantastic, aside from a 1st inning home run, against the Cubans in the game I saw him pitch. After seeing his stuff from behind home plate I never doubted he would be successful here.

[ProudestAnt]

I agree. Dice-K was fantastic, aside from a 1st inning home run, against the Cubans in the game I saw him pitch. After seeing his stuff from behind home plate I never doubted he would be successful here. I agree to a point. I thought he could be very dominant in the majors, but I was very weary about bringing him to a big-time city like Boston and assuming he could handle the pressure. I'm glad he worked out, but I was very worried that he would become another Irabu (<-Yankee pot-shot)...

[lennon2324]

It's a joke. From someone who doesn't understand how the baseball discussions on this site work, I don't doubt that you wouldn't understand where I'm coming from, but know that nothing I say matters. I joke a lot, and find the Yanks/Sox rivalry to be a joke. I want my team to win, I don't give a fuck who they beat. I think people who make a big deal about a rivalry such as this one need to grow the fuck up and appreciate the game for what it is, a GAME...


i agree with you...no need to attack..just talking baseball

[UNC41]

I agree to a point. I thought he could be very dominant in the majors, but I was very weary about bringing him to a big-time city like Boston and assuming he could handle the pressure. I'm glad he worked out, but I was very worried that he would become another Irabu (<-Yankee pot-shot)...

I see what you're saying, but I didn't put too much emphasis on it. I mean, Dice-K was dominant on the biggest international stage in baseball when a whole country was counting on him. I figured he'd do fine with just one city.

[PipeandaCrepe]

Not unless both teams find some pitching...

yanks pitching is fine. besides their offense is just scary

[ProudestAnt]

yanks pitching is fine. besides their offense is just scary:lol Funniest thing I've read all week...

[SatelliteEyes]

yanks pitching is fine. besides their offense is just scary

Darrell Rasner, Carl Pavano, Jeff Karstens and Chien-Ming Wangs hamstring disagree.

[PipeandaCrepe]

:lol Funniest thing I've read all week...

so they've had a few bad games this year. who cares, you can't measure a teams success this early in the season. Mussina, Pettitte, and Pavano are all good pitchers despite rough starts. relief guys are ok, plus the best closer of all time.

[lennon2324]

i can't say i'm excited about their staff...but i think they're offense is more than able to pick up the starters and the bullpen has been said by many analysts to be one of the best in the majors...and yes, the best closer of all time

[ProudestAnt]

so they've had a few bad games this year. who cares, you can't measure a teams success this early in the season. Mussina, Pettitte, and Pavano are all good pitchers despite rough starts. relief guys are ok, plus the best closer of all time. Who's their 5th starter? Teams who's rotations are "fine" have a fifth starter that everyone can name. Wang's got a hammy injury, which is terrible news for a pitcher. Pavano is NOT a good pitcher, he's a decent pitcher who benefited from an abnormal season at best. Their bullpen is going to be overworked by the strech run and their two best AAA pitchers aren't even CLOSE to being ready to come up and lend a hand. Are you serious?

[lennon2324]

and let's not forget wang will be back in a few weeks

[ProudestAnt]

and let's not forget wang will be back in a few weeks With a hammy injury...

[PipeandaCrepe]

Who's their 5th starter? Teams who's rotations are "fine" have a fifth starter that everyone can name. Wang's got a hammy injury, which is terrible news for a pitcher. Pavano is NOT a good pitcher, he's a decent pitcher who benefited from an abnormal season at best. Their bullpen is going to be overworked by the strech run and their two best AAA pitchers aren't even CLOSE to being ready to come up and lend a hand. Are you serious?

this is why i also brought up their offense. even if their pitching isn't top notch the whole year, the offense is capable of carrying the team

[ProudestAnt]

this is why i also brought up their offense. even if their pitching isn't top notch the whole year, the offense is capable of carrying the team No, it can't. Not for an entire season and through the playoffs. It can't happen...

[SatelliteEyes]

this is why i also brought up their offense. even if their pitching isn't top notch the whole year, the offense is capable of carrying the team

Say hello to good pitching. They'll be waiting for you in the first round of the playoffs.