Deer Creek For Sale

[Klize17]

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061218/BUSINESS/61218037

I dont write on here much, but i read this today in the indianapolis star. I know quite a few people here are from Indiana, and just thought you should know that their may not be a stop here this summer.

[twostepchris]

That's too bed- that would really be a shame if there were no more concerts there.
"We're not against selling it to another entertainment group...as long as they are the entity that pays us the most money."

Oh live nation, you guys are the coolest...

[sulli]

i've been wanting to see a show at deer creek for years, just have never made the journey... if the band does play this summer, i'll make the trip.

anyway, this is a shame...

[Allie35]

Yes Deer Creek is am amazing venue! Someone had mentioned they are possibly planning building another outdoor venue closer to the center Indy.

[Klize17]

Well i guess we will have to see what happens. I know it has been up for sale before, but it seems that Live Nation good give two shits who buys it. They just want their money, and that is a damn shame

[Heavy As Stone]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

I will seriously be so pissed.

[IndyDMB]

Damn Noblesville had to go and blow-up and now that means the possibility of no DMB this summer. :twenty4

Damn you Live Nation, damn you.

Are only hope is that these contract negotations delay until fall. A sad day for all the Creekers.

[IndyDMB]

Damn Noblesville had to go and blow-up and now that means the possibility of no DMB this summer. :twenty4

Damn you Live Nation, damn you.

Our only hope is that these contract negotations delay until fall. A sad day for all the Creekers.

[Tak_a_Tak]

I'd say it might as well be a done deal. Simon wants the land out there to build a new Mall. Just what the north side needs........


:mad

I can only hope that it doesn't happen till late in the summer, but I don't think that's going to happen.

[linrose]

I'd say it might as well be a done deal. Simon wants the land out there to build a new Mall. Just what the north side needs........


:mad

I can only hope that it doesn't happen till late in the summer, but I don't think that's going to happen.

No kidding! I wondered about that. Guess it will be hard to top their price if someone really wants to buy it and keep it as a concert venue. Even if they build another outdoor venue closer to Indy (where???) it would not be the same. If they do have a final show there before it's decommissioned, it will be insane!!!

[IndyDMB]

Let's blow up old Bush Stadium and start having conerts in Haughville (super ghetto for those that don't know).

More seriously, they should probably re-work the Lawn @ White River. We just need to add about 20,000 more seats. The venue is sweet for smaller acts.

[duane26]

"Live Nation wants to take advantage of rising property values in the area"

Are you fricking serious, that's what live nation needs, more money.:rolleyes :thumbsdow

[kgiles21]

No kidding! I wondered about that. Guess it will be hard to top their price if someone really wants to buy it and keep it as a concert venue. Even if they build another outdoor venue closer to Indy (where???) it would not be the same. If they do have a final show there before it's decommissioned, it will be insane!!!


If it does happen this way. This is the way I would like to see the concert season come to an end.

Sandy Patty (The 1st concert at Deer Creek)
Steve Miller Band (The only artist to play the venue every year while the name was Deer Creek)
Farmaid
2 Nights Tom Petty
2 Nights Kenny Chesney
2 Nights Jimmy Buffett
3 Nights DMB (Fri-Sat-Sun)
This is just the final run that I would like to see.

[Klize17]

Let's blow up old Bush Stadium and start having conerts in Haughville (super ghetto for those that don't know).

More seriously, they should probably re-work the Lawn @ White River. We just need to add about 20,000 more seats. The venue is sweet for smaller acts.


I agree about white river but there is not room around there for a 20,000. It is a great place to see a show i have been there twice for ben harper and o.a.r.

[Tak_a_Tak]

If it does happen this way. This is the way I would like to see the concert season come to an end.

Sandy Patty (The 1st concert at Deer Creek)
Steve Miller Band (The only artist to play the venue every year while the name was Deer Creek)
Farmaid
2 Nights Tom Petty
2 Nights Kenny Chesney
2 Nights Jimmy Buffett
3 Nights DMB (Fri-Sat-Sun)
This is just the final run that I would like to see.

You can make that happen, right? Oh, and get me front row seats too?


I'm totaly depressed now. I can't even begin to think how the people feel that work there.

:(

[kgiles21]

We are still planning for 2007 until we hear different. It was a shock this morning. We knew this was going to happen sooner or later. We never thought it was going to happen this soon.
There are several possibilities out there.
My personal hope is that we get one last concert season. As bad as I dont want it to end I want it to end during the summer with the thousands of people that work there and the thousands of people that enjoy concerts at Deer Creek.




You can make that happen, right? Oh, and get me front row seats too?


I'm totaly depressed now. I can't even begin to think how the people feel that work there.

:(

[deercreek]

I had a feeling this would happen eventually, just not so soon. It would be awesome if a group of artists who enjoy playing there got together and bought the place.

It will be sad if 2006 is the last season as I missed DMB there this year. I proposed to my wife out on that lawn at the first DMB show we attended.

[IndyDMB]

I agree about white river but there is not room around there for a 20,000. It is a great place to see a show i have been there twice for ben harper and o.a.r.

Yeah, I was there for that Ben Harper show, it was bad ass. But I think the Lawn could pull it off, they would just have to put the stage out over the water or something. This just makes me feel sick.

[firedncr4136]

this really is very sad. i've never made it out to Deer Creek, but it's one of those places that i've always wanted to see a DMB show at.

this blows:lorraine

[OneSwtWld34]

If last year was the last of DMB at Deer Creek, at least the band pulled off a great weekend of music!!!

I propose a sit-in on the property to protest the sale!!

[AntsCrushMe]

nooo! I hope this isnt sold to a developer.

[linrose]

I emailed a friend about it - she moved from Indy to Atlanta this year. I think she put it very well... "Hopefully, another concert venue will buy the place up. It will be such a bore to have a bunch of cookie-cutter suburban houses on the stage where dave should rightly dance!"

I'd change the word "bore" to "travesty" but otherwise, I concur!

[SmoothD41]

jeez, that SUCKS. I can't imagine Deer Creek not being there. I really hope somebody or somebodies step up and save this spectacular venue.

[DrinkNoH2O]

Man, that sucks.

I've seen at least 30 concerts at Deer Creek, DMB there about 10 times.

Deer Creek has always been one of the best stops for the Grateful Dead (except for that time that a religeous fanatic wanted to kill Jerry), Phish (wow, the camping is an experience), and DMB.

In fact, this year I think the best DMB 2 night run was definitely at Deer Creek.

I hope they don't demolish it, there isn't another good large outdoor venue in the whole state. The Lawn at White River is sweet, but it is lacking about 20,000 seats and a pavillion.

If they do have two last DMB shows there this summer I will be there and it will be the biggest damn party you've ever seen.

[IndyDMB]

If they do have two last DMB shows there this summer I will be there and it will be the biggest damn party you've ever seen.

HERE, HERE! After the band leaves the stage I say we set the whole place on fire and leave a few million dollars in clean-up for our Live Nation buddies.:evil That should make 'em pay. Or atleast tear down the fence like the Dead show and make it a free concert.

Sorry about these hateful ideas, just shitteeeee right now.

[podiumboy]

Is there any venue in Indianapolis for DMB to play if they can't get into Deer Creek this summer? I suppose fans in Indy will have to settle for an indoor arena show at Conseco Fieldhouse if the worst happens. And I do mean THE WORST cause that place sucks for a concert compared to Deer Creek. DMB can't skip Indiana, they have a huge fan base there.

[Allie35]

Wouldn't contracts or dates for shows at some of the summer venues already be set? I would think we would still have '07 summer shows because real estate deals involving this large of an area will not be a quick deal. It will probably be up to a year before a deal is closed or finished? Don't you think?

[Tak_a_Tak]

Is there any venue in Indianapolis for DMB to play if they can't get into Deer Creek this summer? I suppose fans in Indy will have to settle for an indoor arena show at Conseco Fieldhouse if the worst happens. And I do mean THE WORST cause that place sucks for a concert compared to Deer Creek. DMB can't skip Indiana, they have a huge fan base there.

Ummmm, no and no. There is no other place in the entire state where they could play, and I'd have to say, it the Creek goes away, so do the yearly stops by dmb.

:lorraine

[Tak_a_Tak]

Wouldn't contracts or dates for shows at some of the summer venues already be set? I would think we would still have '07 summer shows because real estate deals involving this large of an area will not be a quick deal. It will probably be up to a year before a deal is closed or finished? Don't you think?

Yes, some shows have alread been set, but if it sells, the I guess the shows get refunded.

I'm sure we'll most of the summer in before anything big happens. Like you said, large real estate deals like this can take some time.

[kgiles21]

There are dates set already for the 2007 season.
However if it sells quickly and the legal crap goes quick then we would have no concerts in 2007.
We are all hoping for one last summer. It sucks either way. But for someone that works there we want to spend the last summer and the last concert together.

If I had enough money I would buy it myself. Cut beer prices and make the tickets less expensive.

No deer Creek means no DMB in Indiana. I would rather go to Riverbend to see Dmb than Conseco Fieldhouse.

[kgiles21]

http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=5828752

[davehead86]

Jesus, i just discovered this place last year.

Tak if there are no concerts (god forbid), you must come out to Alpine, it will be the only place left in the Midwest.


Fucking Live Nation.

[deercreek]

I know there's a lot of new development going on in the area, but is anything actually open yet? There's the new fancy road that leads from Deer Creek to the I-69 exit, and a couple of office parks underway. But the whole thing could be a bust like the rest of the empty office parks in/around Indy.

[daveindyman]

Well lets all hope that it continues as business as usual for at least a year. But there has to be someone with some money that would invest into building something similar to Deer Creek somewhere else around Indianapolis.

[jordonh]

doesnt live nation own alpine too

[UWMike]

Now granted Live Nation doesn't own much land in this area except for the venue, but doesn't it seem like such a waste to demolish a great music venue in a area where there is so much open land?

Ticket sales have been down the last few years. Anyone think this could be a trend for Live Nation to cash in on their venues that sit on prime real estate. Less venues could make for higher demand at the venues that survive.

If this does happen, the ticket demand will be even higher than ridiculous for Wrigley and Alpine.

[hediondo19]

maybe dead creek campsite will buy it.

[davehead86]

They do own Alpine Valley too, but just the venue, the rest of the resort is privatly owned isnt it??

[DrinkNoH2O]

fuck corporate america

[Tak_a_Tak]

I would rather go to Riverbend to see Dmb than Conseco Fieldhouse.

:eek

I can't believe I'm saying it, but I would too....

[Tak_a_Tak]

Jesus, i just discovered this place last year.

Tak if there are no concerts (god forbid), you must come out to Alpine, it will be the only place left in the Midwest.


Fucking Live Nation.

Don't worry, if this happens, it will be the only place for me to go.

:(


I don't even want to think about how hard it'll be to get that ticket.

[kgiles21]

So its going to take deer creek closing for you to finally go to Alpine!



Don't worry, if this happens, it will be the only place for me to go.

:(


I don't even want to think about how hard it'll be to get that ticket.

[Tak_a_Tak]

So its going to take deer creek closing for you to finally go to Alpine!

:haha

Well, just look at all the money I won't be spending out there (not just on dmb). I'll be able to make the trip because I'll all this extra ca$h.


I don't see myself going to nearly as many different shows this summer. So that if all goes as planned, I'm gonna try to make it up this year.

[davehead86]

The tix for Alpine arent hard to get if ya know some people and if your willing to pay the money that you would normally spend on two shows for one ticket.

[Tak_a_Tak]

The tix for Alpine arent hard to get if ya know some people and if your willing to pay the money that you would normally spend on two shows for one ticket.

That may be true now, but if you take DeerCreek out of the summer mix, I can't beging to think what that will do to the ticket options/prices.


I dunno, maybe nothing.

[tobymitchell]

maybe dead creek campsite will buy it.

I could be wrong but I don't think Dave has that kind of money....

[davehead86]

That may be true now, but if you take DeerCreek out of the summer mix, I can't beging to think what that will do to the ticket options/prices.


I dunno, maybe nothing.

Youd be suprised, there arent that many HARDCORE fans that go to just the Creek, so most of those are spill overs for Alpine too, and then the rest are silly teens who are not going to drive up to Alpine for a weekend, there parents wouldnt let them. Id say a slightly higher ticket demand, but not too much, at least i hope.

[kgiles21]

I am hoping to get to go to the 2nd night this year.
I will be attending Alpine.
I pray that this company that I work for will not sell Alpine or Germain.

There is some talk (rumors) that a buisines man from Indy is looking at buying the creek. But, he is also looking at building a new venue near Indy.
If the creek is demolished I have a sneaky suspison that we will get a new venue withing five years.
But, I hope they are asking too much right now.
Those of us that work at the venue knew this was going to happen sooner or later with the new development around the venue. We anticipated this to happen in 3-5 years. The shock that it happned this soon is still present. We found out the same time that the public found out. We received a call from the husband of one of our employees.
Face it the music industry is changing. Big venues like: Deer Creek, Alpine, Germain are on the way out. The talent is not there to fill these venues anymore. We have DMB, Buffet, Kenny Chesney, Tom Petty that can sell out. Other than that ticket slaes are down. Yes you can say that ticket prices are to high. We are in a catch 22. We want the hottest acts to come to our building each summer. They ask for a lot of money and we pay them. Then we turn around and charge higher ticket prices for the consumer. But, it goes back to Livenation. We are a custmer service industry. Things are all screwed up.
But, going back to my oringinal point: Talent. There is not young talent out there to fill venues the size of Deer Creek. The upcoming talent is coming to the Lawn or the Egyptian Room. If there is another outdoor venue built around Indy, I would not expect it to be as big as Deer Creek. Is it a shame? Yes. Is it practical? Yes.
The past two days have been rough at the creek. A lot of unanswered questions.
But, let me be the 1st to tell you this. The staff at Deer Creek wants to go out with a bang. We are commited to have the best year that we have ever had at Deer Creek.
I hope that you take this and look at it on both sides.
For fans it sucks.
For business it makes sense.
For us that work there it makes no sense and it sucks.
Hopefully the small group that works year round will be able to find something else in the business.
We work for Livenation and we have to resemble Livenation because they sign our pay checks. First and foremost we are fans. We love live music and we love being apart of thousands of fans having a great experience.
I will be looking for something in the business if Deer Creek is sold and demolished. I have worked there for 7 years. This will be my 8th.
I had to get this off my chest to those who come to the best venue in the country!
I hope that each one of you and your families have a great Holiday Season.
I will be around and will post my annual Deer Creek thread with answers to all the questions that you may have as we get closer to summer.
Cheers,
--Kyle

[Tak_a_Tak]

Hang in there Kyle. If you need someone to talk to / vent to, you know you can always give me a call.


What pisses me off most about all this, is that they did all this right before Christmas. You mean to tell me they couldn't wait 20 f'n days until after Christmas to make all this public?!? Way to think of your people first, assholes.


:mad

[Allie35]

Thank you Kyle! Even though we are from Ohio - Deer Creek has had made many great DMB memories for us. The venue is beautiful and so accomodating ~ not only with the facility ~ but the staff such as you. I too, am hoping someone/business will see this facility as a good investment, good sponsorship, especailly with the growth surrounding the venue and keep it open. We can only hope.

[davehead86]

Kyle,

The staff at DC is amazing, far better than anywhere ive ever been, and its ashame, you all will be missed and the 2007 DMB shows will be the highlight of the year for you guys, your gonna have a huge outpouring at those shows of all the people who truley are appreiative of what yall do.

[AntsCrushMe]

so what do you all think if this is the last year for deer creek...is there a possibility for a 3 nite stand?

[FlNKLE]

i would love to know how the band felt....

[daveindyman]

Kyle... just wanted to thank you for all the info you give us. Its always nice to have an "in" at a place we look forward to visiting every summer.

[noliduponmyhead]

i'd rather stand behind one of the huge columns at riverbend than go to conseco. i'll even face the lawn!

[kgiles21]

No problem. I enjoy being here and giving everone on the site as much information that I can.



Kyle... just wanted to thank you for all the info you give us. Its always nice to have an "in" at a place we look forward to visiting every summer.

[hughesman62781]

kyle can you say if DMB has at least put holds on dates at deer creek for this summer yet

[kgiles21]

Yes they have.



kyle can you say if DMB has at least put holds on dates at deer creek for this summer yet

[DMBfireDncr41]

Yes they have.

This makes me extremely happy. I am listening to n1 right now im about 1/3 of the way into the set and have chills. What are the chances Deer Creek is going to be torn down?

[hughesman62781]

Yes they have.

can you say if it will be later in the summer like july or aug. or june like its been in the past?

[IndyDMB]

Yes they have.

There is a GOD. Now let's just hope they(dmb) keep them and Deer Creek will have them. We need to have one more summer there.

[dmb7941]

Anyone else notice that the website for deer creek now sends you to the verizon music center in birmingham Alabama?? Just wondering what's going on with that if they're supposed to be still having shows there this summer. I tried the link from sleepybear campground's site too and I get the same thing! I hope it's not a sign of things to come

[IndyDMB]

Anyone else notice that the website for deer creek now sends you to the verizon music center in birmingham Alabama?? Just wondering what's going on with that if they're supposed to be still having shows there this summer. I tried the link from sleepybear campground's site too and I get the same thing! I hope it's not a sign of things to come


This smells like some bullshit. :twenty4

[freyguy]

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200770104030

Little update I found today. Hopefully more people will get to the petition and LiveNation will realize the mistake their making.

[Bobblehead213]

Has there been any more news on the sale? I see that Brad Paisley and Gwen Stefani have been scheduled for June. But those can be cancelled right? Kyle, any news?:shrug

[podiumboy]

I usually just see DMB at Germain every year since 1999, and I've seen him once at Riverbend. I just want to know, is Deer Creek a better than Germain in any way? If this venue is so great for DMB, I feel I should experience it before it is demolished. But what makes it so great compared to Germain?? Germain is in the same boat... surrounded by the growth of corporate America, and soon it will also be demolished for the sake of real estate.

[kgiles21]

Yes, the shows can be canceled. We have not heard anything pertaining to a sale. So, I guess you could say no news is good news??


Has there been any more news on the sale? I see that Brad Paisley and Gwen Stefani have been scheduled for June. But those can be cancelled right? Kyle, any news?:shrug

[Dmbfan17]

Kyle, can you not give us a certain time frame. Maybe a month or something?

[kgiles21]

A time frame for??



Kyle, can you not give us a certain time frame. Maybe a month or something?

[SmoothD41]

i think he probably means the dates that DMB has on hold

i'm guessing June as usual, although I would love a late stop for the first time since 2002

[kgiles21]

I really wish I could. There are so many dates on hold though. We wont find out for sure until sometime in February.

--Kyle



i think he probably means the dates that DMB has on hold

i'm guessing June as usual, although I would love a late stop for the first time since 2002

[Dmbfan17]

I really wish I could. There are so many dates on hold though. We wont find out for sure until sometime in February.

--Kyle


Thats cool, just wondering. Cause I have graduation June 3rd, So I wouldn't be able to camp Sat night. But Gwen is coming June 2nd so that won't matter.

I just really hope Deer Creek is not the weekend of the 18th and 19th. College orientation for me. With just my luck that is when it will be probably.

[davehead86]

Thats cool, just wondering. Cause I have graduation June 3rd, So I wouldn't be able to camp Sat night. But Gwen is coming June 2nd so that won't matter.

I just really hope Deer Creek is not the weekend of the 18th and 19th. College orientation for me. With just my luck that is when it will be probably.

My mom said my brother might be able to skip graduation to go to DMB with me at Deer Creek. I friggin pumped for that.

[Tak_a_Tak]

My mom said my brother might be able to skip graduation to go to DMB with me at Deer Creek. I friggin pumped for that.

Why, so he can sit in a tent and read all weekend?

:evil

I'm a little shocked he wants to come back after last year. I would have thought we would have scared him off.

:lol

[Dmbfan17]

My mom said my brother might be able to skip graduation to go to DMB with me at Deer Creek. I friggin pumped for that.

Lucky...graduation I am not worried about anymore. Thanks to Gwen Stefani playing that weekend of it, at DC.

[JimBobJoeJackJr]

Dear old Deer Creek

I hope you don't leave us. I don't know what I'd miss more. The awesome jams or running around Glowood ripped off my ass on mushrooms looking for phosphorescent moss.

[Tak_a_Tak]

Holy shit!! That was you?!?

[JimBobJoeJackJr]

Holy shit!! That was you?!?
Sho Nuff!

Spin The Black Circle!

Have you happened to catch the Eddie/Laird Iconoclasts? That show was incredible.

[Tak_a_Tak]

Sho Nuff!

Spin The Black Circle!

Have you happened to catch the Eddie/Laird Iconoclasts? That show was incredible.

No, I don't have the Sundance Network.

:shrug

[dmb7941]

Is there a website for deer creek anymore since the old one changed to that venue in alabama? I can't seem to find anything. I didn't know Alabaman's even went to concerts! South Park taught me that they just bowl, drink beer and slap their bitches!

http://thetravisty.com/Just_Funny/mov/Alabama_Man_(South_Park).htm

[kgiles21]

If you go to livenation.com and type in verizon wireless music center then it will come up. Not sure why it wont come up any other way. I have fowardd the information to the appropriate people.

GO COLTS!!!!!!!!!


--Kyle

[dmb7941]

Thanks for the info Kyle, that's been frustrating for me lately. And I agree, Go Colts! They have me in a position to make a lot of money after coming through for me last night! I'll have my Manning jersey on cheering them on!

[Dmbfan17]

Any news, updates?

[kgiles21]

Any news, updates?
Gwen Staffani and Brad Paisley are coming. Other than that no new news.

--Kyle