DMB European Set List??????

[pingpong]

Hi all, just wanted some opinions really! I've been reading some of the other threads about set lists and it got me thinking: -

I have a minor concern about the set list for the European dates. Living in the UK means it will be my first time seeing DMB as I'm sure it will be for lots of other European fans so I'm really hoping for the most amazing set list featuring loads from their back catalogue. However, because I heard they are set to do a new studio album at the beginning of 2007 I'm wondering whether we will mainly be treated to most of their newer material?? I'm kind of hoping that because us lot on this side of the globe don't get the chance to see them that they'll take this into account and will treat us to all the stuff we've missed out on over the years while they've been busy touring in the US loads.

Hope you all agree, I'm sure their new album will be great though and looking forward to hearing it but I'm sure you know what I'm getting at?!?!?

I think my boyfriend and I are going to feel like we've died and gone to heaven if they play #41 at Wembley!!!

I wonder how long their concerts usually last?

SO EXCITED

Interested to know what you think

[European Ant]

Hello pingpong,

yes, It'll also be my first time.

Well then, my reply to this is: I guess (it's of course only guessing) that they will play old hits (since this gives them a good representation of why they are famous, here in Europe) BUT on the other hand, I don't think the album will be out by then--a European CD premiere? I really don't think so ('cause they don't have US dates scheduled BEFORE the Euro tour)... It would be too good for us, but an insult to their big fanbase in the States, wouldn't it? :)

Best wishes,
Julian.

PS.: Duration: ~ 3 hours

[nieds05]

I think you guys will be getting kind of greatest hits shows, probably similar to Australia 05' but with more Stand Up thrown in there.

[mattward2k]

If you're worried the Euro shows will be a playlist of the new album, they won't.

If you're worried that there'll be a lot of Stand Up, there will be. It is a Stand Up promotional tour, after all.

If you're worried they won't play a lot of other stuff as well, then don't - because they will.

[tynan7]

Interestingly, standing at wembley is now sold out. And thats a good several thousand people since its full standing. I think theres no doubt the whole arena will sell out now...

[mattward2k]

Interestingly, standing at wembley is now sold out. And thats a good several thousand people since its full standing. I think theres no doubt the whole arena will sell out now...
Yeah, the seating looks like it's towards the back as well. Gonna be such an amazing atmosphere.

[tynan7]

Yeah, the seating looks like it's towards the back as well. Gonna be such an amazing atmosphere.

I wonder if theres any chance (or any way we can petition) for a 2nd night at wembley? That would be absolutely CRAZY

[jvalenti]

who said it will be a Stand Up promotional tour? that album came out almost 2 years ago. They didn't even play that much Stand Up stuff in last years tour in the US.

I think the sets will be very similar to the sets at the end of last years tour, with maybe a few new songs that they've been working on in the studio the past few months.

[mattward2k]

I wonder if theres any chance (or any way we can petition) for a 2nd night at wembley? That would be absolutely CRAZY
2nd night's are usually done on the merits of the first; the fact that it's selling this fast should suggest to them, as I know quite a few people who have said to me "oh, DMB are playing Wembley? Can I get tickets?"

who said it will be a Stand Up promotional tour? that album came out almost 2 years ago. They didn't even play that much Stand Up stuff in last years tour in the US.
Of course not, their fanbase over there would have a fit, they'd never get away with it. Last year's tour wasn't the Stand Up promotional tour for the US anyway, '05 was, and they did play (comparatively) a lot of SU on that tour (for the US). Stand Up is the only recently released DMB album in Europe (technically, the first one since BTCS) - and all the promotional material from the shows says things like:

Released in the UK on Dave’s own Bama Rags label earlier this year, the band’s recent LP – the critically acclaimed ‘Stand Up’ – was produced by the legendary Mark Batson (of Eminem, Beyonce and 50 Cent fame) and sold a staggering 460,000 US copies in its first week of release.

Of course that doesn't mean Dave's going to write a setlist of Stand Up songs, but like the solo shows last year, they will have a strong SU focus. Remember that due to earlier curfews in European venues and the fact that they don't play anywhere near as long sets in here than they do in the US, and the fact that they've still got to stuff in the SU songs for promotional reasons, means that in all likeleness a large percentage of the set will be SU, probably with the radio/fan hits (Crash, SMTS, Too Much, Crush, Billies, DDTW etc.)

[Sniper15]

It will be just like australia. Greatest hits shows with some stand up.

[anothertime]

I'm not sure how you guys can be so sure, though. The full band hasn't actually played in Europe (or anywhere outside the U.S. other than Canada) since 1998. Their 2001 plans were obviously debunked because of 9/11, so Dave only did 4 solo shows, all in London, so I wouldn't be so sure in predicting the sets. I think that there will be some Stand Up, obviously, but only a little more than this past year. I'm really hoping for possibly another song tester or two, if there are any left.

And it does seem like the band knows Stand Up is similar to Everyday - both got heavy play their first years out, but starting the following year, maybe three or so songs actually kept going (I'll give Everyday 5 songs, but Stand Up came to Bayou and Hunger this year, only followed by Smooth Rider and YMDT with 16 plays). Don't get me wrong though, I still honestly don't mind either of the albums, although I do prefer the band's earlier stuff.

[whiteysax]

I'm not sure how you guys can be so sure, though. The full band hasn't actually played in Europe (or anywhere outside the U.S. other than Canada) since 1998. Their 2001 plans were obviously debunked because of 9/11, so Dave only did 4 solo shows, all in London, so I wouldn't be so sure in predicting the sets. I think that there will be some Stand Up, obviously, but only a little more than this past year. I'm really hoping for possibly another song tester or two, if there are any left.

And it does seem like the band knows Stand Up is similar to Everyday - both got heavy play their first years out, but starting the following year, maybe three or so songs actually kept going (I'll give Everyday 5 songs, but Stand Up came to Bayou and Hunger this year, only followed by Smooth Rider and YMDT with 16 plays). Don't get me wrong though, I still honestly don't mind either of the albums, although I do prefer the band's earlier stuff.Australia 2005?

[mattward2k]

Australia 2005?
I'm kind of ignoring Australia right now. Stupid cricket.

The setlists there are what I would expect to hear anyway, only with a lot more Stand Up.

[anothertime]

Australia 2005?
Well yes, but it was also their first time playing there as well. But still, even 1998 - 2005, that's a 7 year gap, 9 years for Europe. Even with Stand Up coming out the year with them going to Australia, they still only played American Baby and Hello Again, so I'm not really expecting any more than Bayou, Hunger, YMDT, and probably Smooth Rider being spread through some of the sets.

[mattward2k]

Well yes, but it was also their first time playing there as well. But still, even 1998 - 2005, that's a 7 year gap, 9 years for Europe. Even with Stand Up coming out the year with them going to Australia, they still only played American Baby and Hello Again, so I'm not really expecting any more than Bayou, Hunger, YMDT, and probably Smooth Rider being spread through some of the sets.
Stand Up wasn't out at that point though, and there's no way they were going to debut the album in Australia, considering it was their first time playing there as well. They wouldn't have felt confident enough playing new songs to a new audience. American Baby was out at that point though, and obviously Hello Again was from '04, so they played as much of SU as they technically could.

I'm not saying these shows are going to be the SU album, just that they will be as SU focused as the '05 shows because technically it's an SU promotional tour in Europe - they're promoting themselves in Europe properly now on the back of the only album to be released here in recent years. All band's do it.

[whiteysax]

Well yes, but it was also their first time playing there as well. But still, even 1998 - 2005, that's a 7 year gap, 9 years for Europe. Even with Stand Up coming out the year with them going to Australia, they still only played American Baby and Hello Again, so I'm not really expecting any more than Bayou, Hunger, YMDT, and probably Smooth Rider being spread through some of the sets.Although i feel your logic is a little backwards, i agree with your song selection... which would make it just like a late 2006 summer tour show. That's precisely what I'd expect. I would not expect it to be loaded down with old tunes, no matter how rare or frequent they are.

Stand Up wasn't out at that point though, and there's no way they were going to debut the album in Australia, considering it was their first time playing there as well. They wouldn't have felt confident enough playing new songs to a new audience. American Baby was out at that point though, and obviously Hello Again was from '04, so they played as much of SU as they technically could.

I'm not saying these shows are going to be the SU album, just that they will be as SU focused as the '05 shows because technically it's an SU promotional tour in Europe - they're promoting themselves in Europe properly now on the back of the only album to be released here in recent years. All band's do it.i disagree... i dont' think they plan their song selection around what geographic area has or has not heard more of one album over another. Europe doesn't need a SU tour... I'm sure the album is available over there... as would be Fenway, WOTR, and BOWA. It will be a standard tour, imo.

[jvalenti]

I agree with the last statement. I don't think they plan this stuff nearly as much as we think they do.

[mattward2k]

i disagree... i dont' think they plan their song selection around what geographic area has or has not heard more of one album over another. Europe doesn't need a SU tour... I'm sure the album is available over there... as would be Fenway, WOTR, and BOWA. It will be a standard tour, imo.
Out of interest, did you go to any of the solo shows this year, and did you read any of the promotional material for the tour in terms of what was published in local press and through the ticketing outlets? And what makes you think Fenway, WOTR and BOWA are available? As I can assure you they're not. The only guaranteed way to get hold of this stuff is to either pay extortionate prices on import through a record store (WOTR would cost you around £25 if you could find it [~ $50]) or to order on international delivery through DMBand.com/WH.

This is what's available in the UK that's not import and that's on a published, promoted UK record label: http://gb.v2music.com/site/actcatalogue.asp?ID=433.

I'm not saying Dave sits down and thinks to himself "right, the following albums have and have not been released here, so the setlist is going to go accordingly..." but I think he does think "Well, Stand Up's been released, it's being promoted... so here's a load of Stand Up", then they fall back on the radio/fan hits to bulk out the show. Just like he did for the solo shows in May.

[fred198524]

I'm kind of ignoring Australia right now. Stupid cricket.

The setlists there are what I would expect to hear anyway, only with a lot more Stand Up.

HAHAHAHA I reckon 5-0????????:multi

[Lex1]

Very little recorded material available in UK: however Tower Records import at not too crazy a price and downloads from the Warehouse are affordable, or you can get most of the back catalogue on Allofmp3.com (wash my mouth out with soap...!)

[mattward2k]

HAHAHAHA I reckon 5-0????????:multi
To be honest, I'd rather it was 5-0. Proves then that there was no way we could have hoped to have retained the Ashes, and can go home knowing we were just plain beaten. To win the next 2 tests would be awful; to lose the series 3-2, knowing that if only we had just tried to bat on the 5th day of the 2nd test when we were in such control for 4 days, and that we would have drawn the series and retained them had that been the result.

[pafreitas]

Well for us in Europe it has been a very long waiting period to finally see DMB Live! I'm so exited I can only hope MAy comes really soon...
Regarding the playlist I believe he will concentrate in the Stand Up album with some old favs, like Ants marching (ny the way my personal Fav)and everyday etc...

At least for us in Portugal I hope so because I can honestly say he will have one of the most interactive and noisy crowds in the world. I have tons of friends who are huge fans and we all have bought tickets in the first half hour of beiing put on sale! I think it is amazing the locations in Europe they are coming, dublin, Lisbon, London and Bruxels it is absolutely amazing and strange at the same time, specially for us because we are use to be left on the side but THANK YOU DAVE MATTHEWS BAND for coming to Lisbon!!!

can't wait for May....

[tynan7]

I'm not saying Dave sits down and thinks to himself "right, the following albums have and have not been released here, so the setlist is going to go accordingly..." but I think he does think "Well, Stand Up's been released, it's being promoted... so here's a load of Stand Up", then they fall back on the radio/fan hits to bulk out the show. Just like he did for the solo shows in May.

I'm usually in agreement with what you say matt, but I dont think so here. Admittedly, almost all the promotional material read like it was an SU promo tour, but thats cos all that came from V2, who didnt really have anything else to promote. But the sits were far from radio/fan hits shows mixed with lots of SU. Only 3 SU songs were played over the tour (and only 2 on any given evening) out of a set of 15+ songs. And with only 6 studio albums, thats less than average even. Dave mixed in a bit of everything, I dont think he compromised at all because it was the UK, he played similar sets to when he usually does playing solo. I mean ants or stone or warehouse wernt played once, admittedly crash, everyday and several solo songs all saw 3 outings, but thats because they are songs dave nearly always plays solo. Songs like bartender and crush are more fan favourites but are still regular dave solo songs, whereas he played a large variety of less-played , less well-known solo songs (IBYU, Little Thing, Ayhee, Sister, Granny, LIOG) and gave a lot of talking himself between songs.

I think that he played what you'd have expected him to, given his more limited repretoire a solo performer, it was far from an occassion to showcase stand up and play a bunch of greatest hits. I think dave played whatever he wanted to, whilst trying to vary it a bit each night, but not too much. I think the same (with slightly more variation) will be true of the coming solo and band tours.

[mattward2k]

They were pretty standard solo setlists (given that there were only 3 shows) with the odd rarities thrown in and I do know what you mean... it's harder to compare with solo shows anyway because he does generally stick to his "safe songs" (like the Bartender opener). He broke out a bit, and I'm glad I got to hear Satellite, Little Thing, IBYU, Granny and LIOG - and I'd expect more of the same from the coming solo tour. The SD songs are huge as well, certainly seem like the biggest pulls crowd wise from what he played solo (apart from perhaps Crash, which I think got the biggest reception of anything at Manchester). It's just more than anything it "feels" like it's all rooted in SU, a lot of his Davespeak was geared towards SU topics, I think it's just he didn't feel comfortable playing them having not really broken them out solo before, as well as appearing slightly intimidated by the audiences (especially for King's College and the Apollo) which may have influenced things like Granny and LIOG.

The thing that worries me is his comfort zone with the band though. I wouldn't complain at hearing an SU+Fan Hits setlist, far from it, I just feel like that's what's going to get played. I'm not expecting that as an exact setlist, it's just a lot of people are expecting an '03 show, and I just don't think we're gonna get anything anywhere near that. Who can say until they play though, and depressingly enough at Christmas, that's 6 months away :p

I think I'm just trying to be pessimistic enough that when they break out Seek Up > BOWA, The Stone, Rhyme & Reason > PFWYG > #40 (Tease) > LIOG I can go nuts after feeling like crap :p But methinks we're going to get SMTS > ASTB > Too Much, Smooth Rider, Old Dirt Hill, Crash, Billies > Everyday.

[Koreelove]

:lol oh boy

[European Ant]

"... BUT on the other hand, I don't think the album will be out by then--a European CD premiere? I really don't think so ('cause they don't have US dates scheduled BEFORE the Euro tour) ..."

I think what I said was wrong. CD release party in Vegas (in March) --> quite possible after all! Then new songs from that (latest) album would also be played in Europe, needless to say.

[PeopleX2]

Isn't 'BOWA' being released here in the UK around tour time, thus making it a 'Greatest Hits Tour'??

That's what I was assuming, and have heard, anyway.

I think we'll get the standard 10 songs which'll be played every night, then maybe 5 to 7 different songs not so 'standard', Lie In Our Graves for instance, which will be rotated throughout the tour.

It's only 4 shows too, unless London sells out and they add another date [hopefully at a smaller venue like Brixton Academy or Shepards Bush Empire].

[dmb41carter36]

Did I miss something? Everyone keeps saying "They" I thought it was Dave solo tour?

[pingpong]

Where have you been?!?!?! The show at Wembley in May is DMB, the shows earlier in the year are Dave solo.

[mattward2k]

Did I miss something? Everyone keeps saying "They" I thought it was Dave solo tour?
They've announced 2 Vegas dates, a full band Australian tour and a full band European tour since then :p

[funkythom]

To be honest, does it REALLY matter what songs they play?

The fact the band is in the UK is such a big thing, well for me at least anyway. I will just be enjoying listening to favourite band live, on a stage, in-front of me! :D

I've got standing tickets... which was something that I thought wasn't normally a feature for DMB concerts, how do you see the atmosphere being?

[whiteysax]

To be honest, does it REALLY matter what songs they play?

The fact the band is in the UK is such a big thing, well for me at least anyway. I will just be enjoying listening to favourite band live, on a stage, in-front of me! :D

I've got standing tickets... which was something that I thought wasn't normally a feature for DMB concerts, how do you see the atmosphere being?hopefully the dave solo shows will be more tactful than some of the shows in the states... i hate when i'm listening to a song like IBYU and all i hear is "I LOVE YOU DAVE!!!!!!!!!!!"
shut up and listen!!!!!!!!!!!!! scream when everyone else is!

[mattward2k]

To be honest, does it REALLY matter what songs they play?
In the general scheme of things no, because it's DMB... but then if you ask would I rather hear #40 (tease) -> LIOG than I Did It the answer would be yes, so I guess it does matter to some extent what songs they play. I think what you're asking is, would I be upset or not enjoy myself if they played a bad (comparatively) setlist, no. But would I rather they played an amazing setlist? Yes.

I've got standing tickets... which was something that I thought wasn't normally a feature for DMB concerts, how do you see the atmosphere being?
I think it's more to do with the venue and the crowd than whether you're standing or sitting down; I would hope, considering that they sold through most of the tickets pretty quickly, and that it's an indoor venue, that the atmosphere would be amazing. It'll be awesome in the standing section whatever happens.

[mattward2k]

hopefully the dave solo shows will be more tactful than some of the shows in the states...
If the Apollo show in May is anything to go by, it'll be worse. It's the kind of show where I don't mind if security is really anal, whatever people's rights... if you're being a dick, drunk and making loads of noise you can get out.

[SwtUp&DownUnder]

I'm kind of ignoring Australia right now. Stupid cricket.

:lol:lol:lol

C'Mon Aussie C'Mon!!

[European Ant]

To be honest, does it REALLY matter what songs they play?

The fact the band is in the UK is such a big thing, well for me at least anyway. I will just be enjoying listening to favourite band live, on a stage, in-front of me! :D
Answer: I guess not, unless the band will read through this (probably not, but would be great ;)) I will also enjoy the concert to the core, whatever happens; but more so if they play the REALLY great songs...


I've got standing tickets... which was something that I thought wasn't normally a feature for DMB concerts, how do you see the atmosphere being?Standing is ALWAYS better when watching rock bands! Don't you feel the urge to MOVE?!

:multi:multi

All your wishes fulfilled!
Julian.

[Artist]

who said it will be a Stand Up promotional tour? that album came out almost 2 years ago.

I think the sets will be very similar to the sets at the end of last years tour, with maybe a few new songs that they've been working on in the studio the past few months.


Hope so!!! We want something new.

Stand Up promotional tour? No thanks!

[number4ty1]

I'm hoping for some 2006 songs, at least:

- Shotgun
- Idea of You
- Break Free

For me, it's pointless to have a Stand Up promotional tour at this stage... I'm going for a greatest hits show with some SU on it... (2-3 songs)

[number4ty1]

And for all I care, they could play the worst set list possible that it would still kick arse, and that I would really make the most out of it !