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Rob
01-14-2007, 12:06 AM
Folks,

If you don't know me, you're new. If you hate me, you're old. Doesn't matter, I wanted to throw this back for all of the beginner guitar posts I've seen here.

As the "old" timers will know, I've always recommended that a prospective guitar buyer goes to the store and plays everything in their price range, as well as having the guitar played for them to get an idea of the projected sound. I still feel that's good advice and wouldn't recommend bypassing those steps in favor of "so and so plays one" or "so and so says it's awesome!"

That said, I've been in the market for a beater. The last instrument that served that purpose was given away for a good cause, and I needed a replacement to save my more expensive guitars from the trials associated with a student learning a new style and method.

As a beginner, nothing is more frustrating than fighting the instrument. Most of us learned on cheap, mass-produced pieces of trash. I'm a firm believer that if you start two aspiring guitarists with the same musical potential guitars from different "tiers," (say, a D-28 or 714 to one and a Rogue eBay special to the other), the player with the higher level instrument will develop faster. It's much simpler to learn when you don't have to combat a difficult instrument (especially if you assume it's your level that's the problem, since you're new). However, few are willing to shell out a few grand on an instrument without any knowledge of how they'll do with it long-germ, so we landed with entry-level Fenders, Alvarezes, and Yamahas. The lucky ones end up with something like a Seagull.

My search of several guitar shops bore fruit today in a Takamine EG544sc. This might be one of those perfect beginner guitars.

Let's face it, most beginners aren't concerned about the perfect unplugged sound. That suits this Tak perfectly- "shoebox with strings" would be an understatement. The low E on this thing puts out less bass than Justin Timberlake after a kick in the ballbag. However, the action and playability of this guitar is unparalleled at this price point (I picked this up for $350). If you're looking to learn, this isn't something you must fight to fret, sound, or prevent buzzing. If I had one of these at the beginning rather than the crappy Alvarez I started with, I'd be a far better player today. Top it off with a built-in (and accurate) chromatic tuner, and this thing is a beginner's wet dream. The plugged-in sound won't have people running for the hills, either.

So, as promised, I'll slink back into the shadows again, but hopefully I've typed something worth reading to somebody. Best of luck.

JTR&PIG
01-14-2007, 12:21 AM
ROB...if you remember me...i FIN hated you...you assumed and perhaps rightly so...claimed superiority in this forum...I don't know you, nor agree with your previous actions, but what you just said was actually wise. If you don't remember or if anyone else don't remember me, I was that beginner poster who just started out on guitar and wanted all the members to solve the beginner problem...WHICH IS WHAT GUITAR AND WHAT SONGS TO START WITH...

NOW AS A TRUE BEGINNER...HONESTLY...never picking up a guitar till I was in college...swear to God..have the pictures to prove...in comparison to now...1 year later and many sores, calleses(sp), and broken strings...to where I can play, a large amount of DMB...yes even #41... after 2 months of stretching and seemingly impossible HARD..HARDCORE YEAR OF PRACTICE...thanks ROB, I can honestly say the best advice has been that and your words.

Seriously if you are going to start, go to a guitar store purchase a cheap ass guitar, learn the basic stuff, even if it doesn't sound right, with the guitar...Then if money allows buy a real expensive guitar...it will make you want to get better

THE TAYLOR 914 is a good buy, if you have a job and can afford it. If you want to play something and have a nice and beautiful guitar, and something to be proud of...get it. Overall I guess my advice is, how evil ROB can be...but yet so right...and make you want to get better so you dont sound like an asshole when you ask or want advice or talk in this room.

BTW did you notice how my questions have been spaced a long time apart and how my questions now revolve around actual sound of an amp...not a "PLUG IN"...lol...my how a year and a determination to get good can ....ADD UP TO JTR&PIG

unccrombie
01-16-2007, 03:04 AM
i miss you

Pat M
01-16-2007, 03:28 AM
I didn't like you at all.

GeorgeJr.
01-16-2007, 07:48 AM
Rob,

its nice to see you back. You info was always good. Who gives a crap what the masses may or may not think of you. I, for one, used alot of your info and benefited from it.

thanks,

GD

JTR&PIG
01-31-2007, 02:42 PM
you did provide insight, just not in a manner that was civil, but thanks though, in a much shorter way than i typed before

jester29
02-01-2007, 01:45 PM
Good thoughts. JTR&PIG recommended a Taylor 914. While it's nice, the pricing is a bit much for some players. I'll add on to that by supporting any other guitars in the Taylor lineup. Again, play & see what you like, but they are excellent guitars.
(No Taylor vs. Martin arguments, please)

JTR&PIG
02-03-2007, 12:38 PM
Good thoughts. JTR&PIG recommended a Taylor 914. While it's nice, the pricing is a bit much for some players. I'll add on to that by supporting any other guitars in the Taylor lineup. Again, play & see what you like, but they are excellent guitars.
(No Taylor vs. Martin arguments, please)

I only recommended it because I started on a low end guitar, and found my way up the ladder to a much cleaner, and richer sounding guitar.

DMBRyan10
02-19-2007, 01:15 AM
If you have the money to throw around, the Taylor 110 series (both acoustic and the a/e) is phenomenal. I love that damn thing, and prefer playing it to the 200 and 300 series Taylor's.

I also found the Yamaha FG730S to have a similar action to the Taylor, although the sound quality is lower. This having been said, it still gives you a much better option than the lower-end Fenders, and coming in for about half the price of the Taylor 110 ($599 vs $329).

Seagull also puts out the Original S6 for $379, and that's a very nice option as well. One I sampled had a better low end than the Taylor, and a still strong, vibrant high.

All comes down to preference. Obviously, I shot for the Taylor. The money was my biggest concern, but I am in love with it.

jcc522
02-19-2007, 04:19 PM
Ovation