***Soccer Discussion Thread***

[mrottondo]

OK soccer fans!!! finally, our own thread for discussion! :) let's start with the world cup of course, which do u think will be the winner? me : Argentina

[DMBMike36]

winner england

USA will finish 2nd in group, lose in round of 16

[mrottondo]

hmmm, england, interesting..

i say Uruguay will make it to the round of 16 too, and will lose against england hehe

[SpotlightOnDMB]

I love soccer but I really dont watch much except for when the world cup comes on (and sometimes sat with the MSL). So therefore, I have NO idea who is going to win the cup, although I know it wont be the USA. Does France have a chance this cup? And I heard on Pardon The Interruption they said Brasil was only ok this time around.

Hopefully that made some sense. If it didnt, I am a big soccer fan, but dont watch it that often, just the cup (and some MSL).

shane

[Third Floor]

L'italia...
la squadra azzura all the way...
:cool:

[Rdedeian]

I hate soccer, I sometimes call it 90 minutes of boredom, but for some reason when the World Cup comes around I get interested in soccer. Its sort of like the Olympics, every four years and you get addicted to it and when it ends you can't wait for it to come around again.

[Caedmon]

...soccersoccersoccersoccersoccersoccersoccersocce rsoccersoccersoccersoccer YOU WOULD GIVE ME KISS IF I WAS ON SOCCER TEAM!!!!!! :D

[kgoedman]

I was born Holland so that is my team since the US team is a complete joke. The Dutch team would have been damn good if the organitions could get their acts together. Instead all our players didnt want to play, our coach is a piece of junk and we didn't even qualify.

[DMBMike36]

Originally posted by kgoedman
I was born Holland so that is my team since the US team is a complete joke. The Dutch team would have been damn good if the organitions could get their acts together. Instead all our players didnt want to play, our coach is a piece of junk and we didn't even qualify.

that sucks, i watched the holland/usa game and holland dominated for the most part. Def the best team not to get in

[KJ.]

What's soccer?

[SpotlightOnDMB]

Originally posted by KJ.
What's soccer?

Are you being serious?! :confused:

shane

[Rob]

Italia, France, and Germany have all the cards. The Azzurri look strong, as usual. Inzaghi will miss the first game, but when you have a player like Del Piero to start in his place, who cares?


Don't even look for the US to win a game. They got destroyed by European teams in friendlies in the past two months and the crowd in South Korea will take them right out of the game.

[Diggin A Ditch]

I think it's funny how they are saying Brazil sucks this year. Yet they could still beat 90% of the teams out there
I hope the US wins atleast 1 game, that would make it 2 total wins in 3 world cups

[DMBMike36]

Originally posted by Diggin A Ditch
I think it's funny how they are saying Brazil sucks this year. Yet they could still beat 90% of the teams out there
I hope the US wins atleast 1 game, that would make it 2 total wins in 3 world cups

very true

i think the US has a shot to get through to the 2nd round, but at the same time if they went 0-3 I wouldnt be shocked. I would love them to get by pull an upset or two. It would be great for soccer in this country

[Coster]

Argentina will win.

GO USA!!! GO MEXICO!!!

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by Diggin A Ditch
I think it's funny how they are saying Brazil sucks this year. Yet they could still beat 90% of the teams out there
I hope the US wins atleast 1 game, that would make it 2 total wins in 3 world cups

Uruguay kicked Brazil's ass 1-0 in this last eliminatory games :multi

[bowhatsaround]

US soccer fans suck we need singing like over in Europe

[Coster]

Originally posted by bowhatsaround
US soccer fans suck we need singing like over in Europe But at the same time we don't have the senseless violence.

[bowhatsaround]

Originally posted by Coster
But at the same time we don't have the senseless violence.


true, only when we have a team that wins a world championship, or come close

[DMBMike36]

Originally posted by bowhatsaround
US soccer fans suck we need singing like over in Europe

that would be sweet

when i went to france a few years ago I saw France play (at Stade de France which is an amazing stadium) and I saw some club games, such an awesome atmosphere

[mrottondo]

i saw some us soccer fans a while ago, they were singing like..
"Here we gooo here we goooo here we goooooooo, here we gooo here we goooo here we goooooooooo..." man...such creativity!!! lol ;)

[mrottondo]

A little of uruguayan soccer history..
before 1930 there was no FIFA World Cup, the games that were considered "world cups" were the soccer olympic games, Uruguay won the olympic soccer games in Colombes(France) and Amsterdam(Holland) in 1924 and 1928
Then, we won here at home the first FIFA world cup (1930) , the final game was Uruguay vs Argentina and we won 4-2
and then, in Brazil, 1950, we won against Brazil 2-1, and we were champions again
So, should this 1924 and 1928 titles be called "World cups", and we can say we won the soccer world cup 4 times just like Brazil did?
i want some opinions here :multi

[BustedMachead]

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[Coster]

Originally posted by mrottondo
A little of uruguayan soccer history..
before 1930 there was no FIFA World Cup, the games that were considered "world cups" were the soccer olympic games, Uruguay won the olympic soccer games in Colombes(France) and Amsterdam(Holland) in 1924 and 1928
Then, we won here at home the first FIFA world cup (1930) , the final game was Uruguay vs Argentina and we won 4-2
and then, in Brazil, 1950, we won against Brazil 2-1, and we were champions again
So, should this 1924 and 1928 titles be called "World cups", and we can say we won the soccer world cup 4 times just like Brazil did?
i want some opinions here :multi No, cause that was the Olympics. If you win the Olympic games you are Olympic champions. Before the NFL was created they still had champions but they aren't considered Super Bowl champions.

[Diggin A Ditch]

I agree, I think they are world champions but not world cup champions

[mrottondo]

hmmmm, yea i think so...:(

[slitz]

Originally posted by bowhatsaround
US soccer fans suck we need singing like over in Europe


check out
http://www.sams-army.com/index.php/Mlist=song_list

its the unofficial us soccer fan club song list. if you go to games you can see them all go crazy singing and cheering for our boys.

go usa

slitz

[KJ.]

Originally posted by SpotlightOnDMB


Are you being serious?! :confused:

shane


No, I'm just kidding. I'll be watching as many games as I can. Although I don't think I will be waking up early tomorrow at 7:25am to catch France vs. Sengal.

[mrottondo]

wow, everybody is psyched about the world cup here, we've been 12 years without going to a world cup, so......heh

[DMBMike36]

games start in like 10 hrs:bounce

[mrottondo]

WWWWWWOOOOOHHHHOOOOOOOOOO THEY'RE FUCKING BROADCASTING EVERYTHING; ALL THE GAMES AND THE CEREMONY,I'M ONE HAPPY SOCCER ADDICT!!!!!!!!!!!

[mrottondo]

wow....Senegal kicked France's ass...now this is weird, and kind of a bad score for Uruguay in our group...let's see how is our game against the dannish... :freak

[Coster]

France lost!:lol

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by Coster
France lost!:lol :lol :lol

oh...anyway, i guess i wont sleep tonight...3 games to watch...some work to do, just slept 4 hours last night....man............:o :o

[DMBMike36]

i recorded that game and just watched it

wow

[Coster]

It was a good game wasn't it? At least the first half was. A lot of action going on. I like the style that Senagal was playing.

[DMBMike36]

that was one of the best goal scoring celebrations I have seen

the africans always have the best ones

[Rdedeian]

ESPNnews is comparing Senegals win one of the biggest upsets in sports history next to Buster Douglas beating Tyson, The Miracle on Ice, and the Jets beating the Colts in super bowl III.

[DMBMike36]

Originally posted by Rdedeian
ESPNnews is comparing Senegals win one of the biggest upsets in sports history next to Buster Douglas beating Tyson, The Miracle on Ice, and the Jets beating the Colts in super bowl III.

wow, its the poll on espn.com

[kgoedman]

France had so many chances, I was suprised a few of them didn't go in...but Senegal played well and deserved the win.

My final four:
Italy, Brazil, England, and one wild card

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by DMBMike36
that was one of the best goal scoring celebrations I have seen

the africans always have the best ones

yup, they rule, hehe, like a little ritual around the scorer's shirt...i want that when i score a goal in my university soccer championship!

[Rdedeian]

My older brother bet on Senegal last night and won $4,000 dollars cause they won, just told me that.

[DMBMike36]

Originally posted by Rdedeian
My older brother bet on Senegal last night and won $4,000 dollars cause they won, just told me that.

that is sweet

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by Rdedeian
My older brother bet on Senegal last night and won $4,000 dollars cause they won, just told me that.

:eek:

Oh, btw, tonight i'm staying up all nite, camerun vs ireland at 3:30 am, URUGUAY vs Denmark at 6 am, and Germany vs Saudi arabia at 8:30 am, and then...i will sleep my ass off...

[Rdedeian]

Originally posted by mrottondo


:eek:

camerun vs ireland at 3:30 am,

Go Irish

:violent

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by Rdedeian


Go Irish

:violent

cool, i will be an Ireland fan if u are an Uruguay fan later, deal? ;)

[Rdedeian]

cool with me.

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by Rdedeian
cool with me.

woooohooooooo go irish!!!! :bounce
heheh, i look like those korean "fans" of other teams than Korea, this ppl is paid to go to the stadium and cheer for a certain team in the world cup,yesterday there were a lot of korean Senegal fans,lol, i dont like that...but...go irish!!!!

[Rdedeian]

Go Uruguay, beat those Danish bastards!!!


If your Danish, I apologize.

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by Rdedeian
Go Uruguay, beat those Danish bastards!!!


If your Danish, I apologize.
:D :D

[mrottondo]

k,Cameroon 1 Ireland 1, super boring game,i'm already sleepy,after watching Uruguay's game, i'm goin' to bed

GO URUGUAY!!!

[mrottondo]

gosh, i'm damn nervous for this game.......

[mrottondo]

:( :( :(
bbbbbuuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaa :~~o(

[DMBMike36]

poor marcelo

[Rdedeian]

mrottondo,

I tried my best to cheer Uruguay to victory but I guess they didn't want to listen to me. Stayed up and watched the whole game, I think its the first time I watched two soccer games ever back to back with out changing the channels and they were both on the Spanish channel here so I had no idea what the announcers were saying.

[DMBMike36]

i'm staying up tonight to watch argentina vs. nigeria then taping one of the games during the night, then watching england vs. sweden tommorow

i love this stuff

[dmband_fan1]

dang

cameroon played a good first half, fortunately ireland made a comeback in the second..robbie keane almost got that shot in but it had to hit the post:(

you can definitely tell they need roy keane in their midfield. Their offense was till lacking.

Englad vs. Sweden should be a good game. Let's see how fit Beckham is for the game...mind you he is sporting a mohawk cut now:D haha the guy has so many diff hairstyles.

[dmband_fan1]

Originally posted by Rdedeian
mrottondo,

I tried my best to cheer Uruguay to victory but I guess they didn't want to listen to me. Stayed up and watched the whole game, I think its the first time I watched two soccer games ever back to back with out changing the channels and they were both on the Spanish channel here so I had no idea what the announcers were saying.


haha that stinks when commentary is in some other language..the ABC commentators were not too bad but i miss the english ones:( btw if you need the schedule it is here:

http://worldcup.espnsoccernet.com/story?id=210727&lang=us

[mrottondo]

Argentina vs Nigeria will be a great game, living next to Argentina i get to see a lot of thir tv programs and they are psyched about this game, i will watch arg vs nig, paraguay vs south africa (go south africa!! u know why, lol), and england vs sweden, and then i'm goingto bed :)
Mike, we are soccer addicts!! heheheh

[DMBMike36]

Originally posted by mrottondo
Argentina vs Nigeria will be a great game, living next to Argentina i get to see a lot of thir tv programs and they are psyched about this game, i will watch arg vs nig, paraguay vs south africa (go south africa!! u know why, lol), and england vs sweden, and then i'm goingto bed :)
Mike, we are soccer addicts!! heheheh

:lol yes we are

this arg vs. nigeria game should be great

starts in like 2 hrs

[Rdedeian]

Originally posted by dmband_fan1



haha that stinks when commentary is in some other language..the ABC commentators were not too bad but i miss the english ones:( btw if you need the schedule it is here:

http://worldcup.espnsoccernet.com/story?id=210727&lang=us


Its kinda of better watching a soccer game on the spanish stations, they go absolutely nuts when a goal is scored.

GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Saxygrl528]

thank god i caught this thread, i was going NUTS because i wanted to talk to ppl about this. sweet! the game starts in like...5 minutes!

oh and i LOVED how when Senegal scored they fucking danced around that guy's shirt. that was funny as shit!

who do you guys want/think will win this one?

[DMBMike36]

Originally posted by Saxygrl528
thank god i caught this thread, i was going NUTS because i wanted to talk to ppl about this. sweet! the game starts in like...5 minutes!

oh and i LOVED how when Senegal scored they fucking danced around that guy's shirt. that was funny as shit!

who do you guys want/think will win this one?

-prob best celebration I have ever seen

-I think argentina, but i'm pulling for Nigeria

[Saxygrl528]

Originally posted by DMBMike36
I think argentina, but i'm pulling for Nigeria

i agree with you. i think argentina will win, but i would LOVE to see Nigeria do it.

[Saxygrl528]

beautiful run by nigeria...unlucky shot...come on nigeria!!

[BigEyedFish416]

I love live sports at 2 in the morning

[DMBMike36]

Originally posted by BigEyedFish416
I love live sports at 2 in the morning

its so weird that its sunny in the afternoon there and its 2am here

[BigEyedFish416]

Im pulling for NIgeria

Gotta feel those jerseys

[Saxygrl528]

Originally posted by DMBMike36


its so weird that its sunny in the afternoon there and its 2am here

i was thinkin that too...i wish i was there!!

[DMBMike36]

i love tommy smyth's accent

[SpotlightOnDMB]

Im watching and rooting for Nigeria. I am thinking I might need to go get some 20 ozs of pepsi so I will be able stay up! :)

GO NIGERIA. Bounce for Nigeria: :bounce :bounce

shane

[Saxygrl528]

yeah, i'm going for Nigeria too, but Argentina's playing really damn well...they're runs are awesome, and they're keeping the ball on Nigeria's half.

[DMBMike36]

fuck

arg is dominating right now

[SpotlightOnDMB]

Yeah argentina is kicking ass right now. Nigeria cant get it out of their own zone. Wow, great game playing by Argentina, but no scoring, yet! :)

shane

[Saxygrl528]

Originally posted by DMBMike36
fuck

arg is dominating right now

i know. nigeria will give way soon. argentina is bound to finish one of these shots...that was a brave save by nigeria a few mins ago though.

nigeria just needs to settle it!

[Saxygrl528]

GOD that would have been a SWEET goal....just like ONE more step!!!

[Saxygrl528]

damn! the thing is...argentina is ON the man. nigeria seems to be giving them too much space.

[Third Floor]

big save.. big save...
gotta love the group of death..
nigeria gotta find some offense to go with the defense that they are finding somehow, argentina is all over them..

[Saxygrl528]

ARRRRGH!!!!!!!!!:violent

[DMBMike36]

okcacha almost scored that would have been sweet

[SpotlightOnDMB]

Jen, happy 500 posts! :) :multi

And yeah, one of these times Argentina is going to score...but nice save now for Argentina! :)

shane

[Saxygrl528]

Originally posted by Third Floor
big save.. big save...
gotta love the group of death..
nigeria gotta find some offense to go with the defense that they are finding somehow, argentina is all over them..

yeah, i think nigeria is slowly but surely learning what they can and can't do with the veteran world cuppers....

[Saxygrl528]

Originally posted by SpotlightOnDMB
Jen, happy 500 posts! :) :multi

And yeah, one of these times Argentina is going to score...but nice save now for Argentina! :)

shane

thanks shane!! now i'm at 503...i'm waiting on nigeria to get their shit together and score, but Argentina and Ortega are kicking them around a bit.

[SpotlightOnDMB]

off topic, yeah some chick just called me asking if I knew who it was, and she actually asked if this was shane and I am like yeah...so I have no clue who just called...her name is susan but that does me no good...that was really strange! had to be drunk...or something was going on! :lol oh well, go nigeria!

shane

[Saxygrl528]

Originally posted by SpotlightOnDMB
off topic, yeah some chick just called me asking if I knew who it was, and she actually asked if this was shane and I am like yeah...so I have no clue who just called...her name is susan but that does me no good...that was really strange! had to be drunk...or something was going on! :lol oh well, go nigeria!

shane

wow, random girls calling you shane, you should be happy! :lol but yeah...go nigeria...that bicycle kick was fucking sweet!

[SpotlightOnDMB]

Originally posted by Saxygrl528
wow, random girls calling you shane, you should be happy! :lol

No I shouldnt, I REALLY like this girl back home, who I will be seeing on THURSDAY! WOHOO! I had a thread about her, so if i find I will put a link up here,. So, random girls calling me, no good! ;)

Nice bycicle kick, too bad it was off target!

shane

[Saxygrl528]

Originally posted by SpotlightOnDMB


No I shouldnt, I REALLY like this girl back home, who I will be seeing on THURSDAY! WOHOO! I had a thread about her, so if i find I will put a link up here,. So, random girls calling me, no good! ;)

Nice bycicle kick, too bad it was off target!

shane

yeah and i think everyone knows what this girl's name is.

you can tell both teams are getting tired now. can't wait till second half! nigeria needs to get with it.

[SpotlightOnDMB]

Originally posted by Saxygrl528
yeah and i think everyone knows what this girl's name is.

Wait, what does that mean? :confused:

shane

[Saxygrl528]

Originally posted by SpotlightOnDMB


Wait, what does that mean? :confused:

shane

not a bad thing, but you have alot of stuff in your buddy info and your title under your avatar....you've got it bad....;)

[SpotlightOnDMB]

I totally forgot I have that under my name. Whoops! :) I wasnt saying it was bad, just confused how you knew her name. And yeah I do have it bad!

Here is the thread about her, if you care to read: http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18530

HALFTIME! :multi

shane

[Saxygrl528]

that was too close for comfort.....argentina almost scored

[Third Floor]

so close.. so close

[Saxygrl528]

Originally posted by Third Floor
so close.. so close

yeah they are coming out WAY too strong...lol

[Rdedeian]

I love Nigeria's uniforms. NOT!! Those are awful

[Saxygrl528]

Originally posted by Rdedeian
I love Nigeria's uniforms. NOT!! Those are awful

hhahaa! lol, i know! dude...argentina ALMOST scored again....dammit!

[SpotlightOnDMB]

Originally posted by Rdedeian
I love Nigeria's uniforms. NOT!! Those are awful

my mom said the same thing, but I dont mind them at all...

shane

[Saxygrl528]

ARGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! :violent :violent

[Saxygrl528]

but what a sweet goal!

[Rdedeian]

I'm watching on Spanish TV again and I love when they score. :lol :lol


GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Saxygrl528]

in the next game we should go for s. africa!! :)

[Rdedeian]

Just saw this thought you all might like it.

Soccerpee (http://www.rbevan.com/FSpriceless/new/N15(rbevanCom).jpg)

[Saxygrl528]

Originally posted by Rdedeian
Just saw this thought you all might like it.

Soccerpee (http://www.rbevan.com/FSpriceless/new/N15(rbevanCom).jpg)

i've seen that!! that is some nasty ass shit, but so funny!!

[Rdedeian]

Originally posted by Saxygrl528


i've seen that!! that is some nasty ass shit, but so funny!!


It is funny, my brother had it on the harddrive.

[Saxygrl528]

well....it's ok about nigeria...they played hard.

next.....GO SOUTH AFRICA!!!!!!!!

[Rdedeian]

Originally posted by Saxygrl528
well....it's ok about nigeria...they played hard.




Maybe next time they won't wear flourecent uniforms.

Nice win for Argentina though!!!

[bstorey]

I was impressed with Nigeria. These African teams are playing their hearts out so far...

[dmband_fan1]

how the hell did england and sweden tie? man that stinks, england should have won that game





:(

[Saxygrl528]

top

[dmband_fan1]

haha our sports anchorman totally messed up batistuta's name..just found that funny

he pronounced it "batestit"

[Saxygrl528]

Originally posted by dmband_fan1
haha our sports anchorman totally messed up batistuta's name..just found that funny

he pronounced it "batestit"

i love the way smythe (sp?) says it....funny as hell...

[mrottondo]

1:15 am here, i'm waking up at 6 am to watch Brazil vs Turkey..oh well...this is gonna be a sleepless month, but so sweet!!

Hey Jen, i didnt know you were a soccer fan, it's very cool having you on this thread, u gotta support Uruguay against France this next thursday ok? we need to win to stay alive!!!!

GO URUGUAY! anybody else thinks that Dario Rodriguez's goal was the best 2002 world cup goal so far? I DO! :)


Marcelo

[Saxygrl528]

Originally posted by mrottondo
1:15 am here, i'm waking up at 6 am to watch Brazil vs Turkey..oh well...this is gonna be a sleepless month, but so sweet!!

Hey Jen, i didnt know you were a soccer fan, it's very cool having you on this thread, u gotta support Uruguay against France this next thursday ok? we need to win to stay alive!!!!

GO URUGUAY! anybody else thinks that Dario Rodriguez's goal was the best 2002 world cup goal so far? I DO! :)


Marcelo

fuck yeah i'm goin for Uruguay!! That senegal upset was huge, and yes, as a soccer player, i'm a soccer fan ;) i was also very happy to see that South Africa CAME BACK!! i would have loved to see them win, but that 2-2 comeback was wonderful. they were two down in the second half and came back. just brilliant. :multi

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by Saxygrl528


fuck yeah i'm goin for Uruguay!! That senegal upset was huge, and yes, as a soccer player, i'm a soccer fan ;) i was also very happy to see that South Africa CAME BACK!! i would have loved to see them win, but that 2-2 comeback was wonderful. they were two down in the second half and came back. just brilliant. :multi

yup, cool cameback, actually i wanted Paraguay to lose, i dont like them much, ggggrrrrrrrrr, anyway, today i watched Brazil vs Turkey...man, Brazil always has such luck, that penalty(in my opinion it was not penalty) at the end of the game...man, maybe they paid Turkey's keeper to kick the ball so bad? lol...who knowsssss...anyway, i just left Italy vs Ecuador recording at home, i should see it later...

[Coster]

Did you see that Mexico game?! 1-0 MEXICO!!! :D And everyone was counting them out. :mad: ;) And Mexico may very well have the best fans this world cup too. That place was rockin'! Mexican fans were loud and plentiful. I think England has a lot of fans too but I don't they were as loud as the Mexican fans. Although I haven't seen all the games so maybe there are other countries with good support too. WooHoo! can't wait for the USA/Portugal game now. 2 in the morning over here on the west coast but I'll be up. GO U S A !!!

[DMBMike36]

Originally posted by mrottondo
1:15 am here, i'm waking up at 6 am to watch Brazil vs Turkey..oh well...this is gonna be a sleepless month, but so sweet!!

Hey Jen, i didnt know you were a soccer fan, it's very cool having you on this thread, u gotta support Uruguay against France this next thursday ok? we need to win to stay alive!!!!

GO URUGUAY! anybody else thinks that Dario Rodriguez's goal was the best 2002 world cup goal so far? I DO! :)


Marcelo

if Rodriquez is the Uruguay guy, yes that was the best goal. Senegal had the best celebration thus far and Klose from Germany with 3 goals (even against a bad team) was a great individual performace


CANT WAIT FOR THE USA game hopefully Reyna can play

GO USA!

[mrottondo]

ummmm, yeah, go USA !!! i have to say this for my american buddies, as long as u all say GO URUGUAY! we need to kick some french ass...

Talking about todays games, i just watched Japan vs Belgium, i never expected it to be such a good game as it was, 2-2, sweet goals, nice morning for me :) i will watch Korea vs Poland in the evning if i catch a rerun..

[Coster]

Originally posted by dmband_fan1
how the hell did england and sweden tie? man that stinks, england should have won that game





:( Sweden is no pushover. They may not have qualified last WC but in 94 they finished in third place behind Brazil and Italy. And they have more of an offense this time around. I guess thats why they call it the group of death.

And how about those Asian teams? Coming through on their home turf. Japan almost won that game too. They put the ball in the net late in the game but it was called back. Can't wait for 2am tomorrow morning to hit........GO USA!!!

[DMBMike36]

i cant wait for the USA game, but I think they might struggle. Mathis and Reyna are questionable

go USA, a tie would be a good result. Tie Portugal, Beat Poland, Tie or Beat South Korea, things should be good

[dmband_fan1]

Originally posted by Coster
Sweden is no pushover. They may not have qualified last WC but in 94 they finished in third place behind Brazil and Italy. And they have more of an offense this time around. I guess thats why they call it the group of death.

And how about those Asian teams? Coming through on their home turf. Japan almost won that game too. They put the ball in the net late in the game but it was called back. Can't wait for 2am tomorrow morning to hit........GO USA!!!


yeah but those were some very need points though for england..hopefully they step it up for the next game(against argentina right?)

:)

[DMBMike36]

Originally posted by dmband_fan1



yeah but those were some very need points though for england..hopefully they step it up for the next game(against argentina right?)

:)

yup, this weekend

[Coster]

Originally posted by DMBMike36


yup, this weekend Thats going to be a good one. 4:30 wake up time for me.

As for the US its going to be tough. I'm hoping for an upset and thats just to tie with Portugal. If we lose we'll have to beat both South Korea and Poland and that won't be easy.

[mrottondo]

hey go USA tomorrow!! i will wake up at 6 am to see that, so u better fucking win, lets kick some portuguese ass!!!! :violent

[DMBMike36]

lets go USA!!!

i have summer class from 9-12 coming home watching the USA game then the Germany/Ireland game then class 6-9

thank god for tivo

[Ethan]

USA pulls off the third big upset of this tournament. This is the beauty of the World Cup: You can always count on couple of "sure-win" teams to get their rears handed back to them by the underdogs. :cool:

[Baubkatt]

The Ireland goal was one of the sweetest Ive ever seen!!!
GO IRELAND!!!
-Dave

[Coster]

Two GREAT games today!

GO USA!!! What a game! :D They were scoring at will in the first half and missed an opportunity that could have made it 4-0 I thought. It was close at the end though. The US has to learn how to keep possesion, do one touch passes and just pass in general. Their defense got weaker too. But the last 5-10 minutes they came through again and held the fort. No one in that stadium except for the few who were in Sams Army wanted the US to win. Big game against South Korea next and its going to be loud. They looked good against Poland so it won't be easy. But the good thing is that they have Portugal left still and we have Poland. I think at least a tie will be good for the US.

And that Germany/Ireland game had a great finish! I couldn't believe they scored that goal. I was rooting for them cause they had a lot of fans there and they were loud. I'd love to see them in the second round. They are a feisty bunch too. Every play they were arguing with the Germans and trying to plead with the refs. It was a great game for reading lips.

Next upset:Uruguay over France...that would be great.:)

[Diggin A Ditch]

YES!!!!!
1 down, 6 more until the cup is here

[bowhatsaround]

man I wish we would win the world cup that would be a bigger upset than the miricle on ice

[eirikra]

hey congrats on your victory! That's great! I had never thought that USA would beat Portugal!

Anyone else looking forward to Senegals game against Denmark tomorrow? Can Senegal get this one too? :D

[Saxygrl528]

Originally posted by eirikra
hey congrats on your victory! That's great! I had never thought that USA would beat Portugal!

Anyone else looking forward to Senegals game against Denmark tomorrow? Can Senegal get this one too? :D

i hope they can, i'd like to see senegal win, since they are the underdogs...

oh, and YAY USA!!!!! except we should not have scored on ourselves!!!!:lol

[watchtower41]

what other games are on tonight????

[eirikra]

Cameroon - Saudi-Arabia
Denmark - Senegal
France - Uruguay

All great games:) And for Marcelo, I really hope Uruguay wins!

[Saxygrl528]

http://worldcup.espnsoccernet.com/story?id=210727&lang=us

click there :)

[Rdedeian]

Big tie for Ireland baby, I thought they were going to get killed after Germany won there last game 8-0 and I finally fell asleep as the game was beginning so when I woke up and noticed they tied it up in injury time of the 2nd half I got pumped.

GO IRISH!!

[bowhatsaround]

ole ole ole ole

[ssolins]

France vrs. yourgay: 0-0

Silva is a prick and should gotten a red card...he got subed out, started yellin at the coach, and didnt even aknowledge the person coming in....he should be riding the bench

[Rob]

That was a horrible game all-around. Uraguay put on one of the most disgusting displays I have seen since the last time I watched Argentina play. They're overdramatic, dirty, whiny, and petty.

The referee lost control early on. Henry's tackle may have deserved a yellow, possibly even a red if there was intent displayed, but there was none. Then that prick Silva gets away with nothing after he had clear intent to injure the player. It's things like that that really piss me off.

[ssolins]

see, i think Henry should have gotten a yellow, a) because it wasn't intentional, and b) because there was little, if any, contact with the other person. dangerous yes, but not that bad. where as Silva intentionally tried to spike the guys leg and got nothing from it. Personally i think Silva should be riding pine the rest of the series, but it doesnt actually matter because Your-a-gay sucked and wont make it outta the round.

[Rob]

Originally posted by ssolins
Your-a-gay

I'm not sure that was necessary...

[ssolins]

well, uruguay is responsible for now 2 french players not playing in the next game. Henry, id indirectly call them responsible for, the other player got his 2nd yellow card of the cup, due to an altercation started by the guy from uruguay. one guy missed a completley open net

[Rob]

That's your justification for insulting an entire country? Let's not forget we also have a gentleman from Uraguay who posts here.

In the end, we need to realize it is a game. The game is life for most people, but you don't have any reason to toss insults like that- it's childish and unnecessary.

[Saxygrl528]

Originally posted by Rob
That's your justification for insulting an entire country? Let's not forget we also have a gentleman from Uraguay who posts here.

In the end, we need to realize it is a game. The game is life for most people, but you don't have any reason to toss insults like that- it's childish and unnecessary.

thanks rob, i was about to defend marcelo.....oh, and i started a thread about you in DMBc....go look!

[mrottondo]

thanks Rob and Jennifer :)
and ssolins, i will just ignore you :)

[Ethan]

England vs. Argentina at 7:30 am EDT. Should be a very entertaining game.

[Saxygrl528]

that game will fucking rule.....who do you guys want to see win??

[watchtower41]

Nigeria/Sweden


who do you like???? I'm gonna call a tie. 2-2

should be a good one

[DMBMike36]

I think sweden will win 2-1, england will upset argentina

france and uruguay are in trouble, they need some help

the door is wide open for the USA. Looking ahead winning the group is a possibilty(still tough, but can happen) and that would be great b/c Italy will prob win Group G with Mexico finishing 2nd most likely. Playing Mexico(who we have beaten) would be nicer than Italy. That is still way off though

go USA

the games tonight/tommorow should be awesome. I'm taping them all and doing nothing tommorow but watching all 3

[mrottondo]

i'm at work, next here is a tv, i'm gonna watch eng vs arg woooohoooooooooo, go arg!!!!!! (but for me eng will win 3-1, lets see....)
oh yeah, and Uruguay will beat Senegal this next tuesday 2-0 and will qualify and play against Sweden, i hope, lol

[mrottondo]

eng1 arg 0 till now...for me the penalty was not such, i mean, it was not foul....
anyway, i hope this goal pumps the game up a bit..

[dmband_fan1]

the penalty againt Owen should have counted. He was clearly kicked/hit in the knee and ESPN showed it from quite a few angles.

Batistuta and Veron did not play very well at all. Veron was also subbed very early, what was up with that?! I am glad that England(my fav intl team) won. Overall they played a good game although they were a bit too defensive at times. Damn do i love the ENglish crowd:babe

[Coster]

Originally posted by DMBMike36
the door is wide open for the USA. Looking ahead winning the group is a possibilty(still tough, but can happen) and that would be great b/c Italy will prob win Group G with Mexico finishing 2nd most likely. Playing Mexico(who we have beaten) would be nicer than Italy. That is still way off though:mad:

We don't really want to see that happen cuz my family is from Mexico and I don't want to have to see one them go out. ;) But yeah I think that would be much easier for the US if that happened. They are much more familiar with Mexico and their style of play than Italy. However Mexico has gotten much better since their first few games in the final qualifying round. It should be a good game to watch. I was banking on both teams to take second place in their respective groups which would mean that if they played each other it would be in the semi-finals. That win against Portugal surprised me. Oh well maybe Mexico can upset Italy.:)

Marc

[DMBMike36]

bye bye nigeria

[Rdedeian]

I'm glad Nigeria didn't wear those gay flourecent green uniforms last night. Thank god.

[Rob]

Italia vs. Croatia tomorrow. Should be a solid game. Italia 2-0 again.

Again, a South American team frustrated the hell out of me today. I can't stand to see these teams constantly diving, lobbying for fouls, complaining to refs... It's disgusting. Why can't they play solid football without having to resort to such antics?

[DMBMike36]

Originally posted by Rob
Italia vs. Croatia tomorrow. Should be a solid game. Italia 2-0 again.

Again, a South American team frustrated the hell out of me today. I can't stand to see these teams constantly diving, lobbying for fouls, complaining to refs... It's disgusting. Why can't they play solid football without having to resort to such antics?

agreed, i hate diving and shit (although I did it a few times in my day)

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by Rob
Italia vs. Croatia tomorrow. Should be a solid game. Italia 2-0 again.

Again, a South American team frustrated the hell out of me today. I can't stand to see these teams constantly diving, lobbying for fouls, complaining to refs... It's disgusting. Why can't they play solid football without having to resort to such antics?

well, but we have 2 world cups :p :p

jk

our soccer was better in those times, but uruguayan soccer was always a defensive-counterattack soccer, with a good defense and fast forwards, sometimes we play bad yeah, but Rob, did u see Uruguay vs Italy , the last friendly game? we kicked their ass, we played high quality soccer, passing the ball everywhere, and we should have win...anyway, sometimes soccer is strange and exciting..

[Rob]

When was it? What were the line-ups?

The thing to remember when watching Italy- we play bunker defense with counter-attack offense. You may think you're dominating until we score some quick ones on ya :evil

[Rob]

Oh, and we have three World Cups :p

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by Rob
Oh, and we have three World Cups :p

actually, we have 4 world cups, 1924, 1928, 1930 and 1950

1924 and 1928 are olympic games before the Jules Rimet cup was invented, they are considered as world cups by the FIFA ;)
oh yeah, and Uruguay has a great soccer history, the first FIFA world cup was played here in our lil country, and we just won ;) wooohoooooo
i would love chatting with you about soccer, whats ur AIM scrname?

[Rob]

Originally posted by mrottondo


actually, we have 4 world cups, 1924, 1928, 1930 and 1950

1924 and 1928 are olympic games before the Jules Rimet cup was invented, they are considered as world cups by the FIFA ;)
oh yeah, and Uruguay has a great soccer history, the first FIFA world cup was played here in our lil country, and we just won ;) wooohoooooo
i would love chatting with you about soccer, whats ur AIM scrname?

No, no, no- they have 2 Olympic championships and 2 World Cup championships- both recognized by FIFA, but both different championships- don't try to pull a fast one :p

I'm SocrManiac on AIM.

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by Rob


No, no, no- they have 2 Olympic championships and 2 World Cup championships- both recognized by FIFA, but both different championships- don't try to pull a fast one :p

I'm SocrManiac on AIM.

ok, and how many olympic titles has Italy in soccer? huh?? HUH!!??

lol

[mrottondo]

i'm watching Slovenia-South Africa

i knew it was going to be boring...oh well.......i planned to stay up a bit more to watch Italy vs Croatia, but i don't think i'm gonna make it, this damn game is making me sleepy....

[Rob]

TWO motherfucking goals disallowed. One for Vieri being onsides (because he sure as hell wasn't onside) and the other for a Croatian defender yanking on Inzaghi. What a bullshit performance by bullshit referees today. And if Tommy Smyth, who HATES Italy, says both goals should stand, that should show you something.

Enjoy it Croatia, because you know that was a complete horseshit victory.

[eirikra]

oh man the last half hour of that game was exciting!!!
I didn't quite see what happened on the last disallowed goal, so I don't know if it was correct or not.. but what a great second half!!

[Coster]

Sounds like a good game to watch. Unfortunately I'm at my friends place in Ventura and she doesn't get espn 2 or the spanish station that replays all the games.:( Well now that Croatia won all Mexico has to do is win tonight (tomorrow morning) and tie Italy to take the group.:) It can be done. Si se puede!

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by Rob
TWO motherfucking goals disallowed. One for Vieri being onsides (because he sure as hell wasn't onside) and the other for a Croatian defender yanking on Inzaghi. What a bullshit performance by bullshit referees today. And if Tommy Smyth, who HATES Italy, says both goals should stand, that should show you something.

Enjoy it Croatia, because you know that was a complete horseshit victory.

i'm sorry man, Italy will beat Mexico, doncha worry ;)

[DMBMike36]

Italy def got screwed out of 2 goals, however their defense did make some key mistakes that led to the 2 croatia goals that never should have happen.

I think Italy will beat Mexico, and Ecuador will lose to both Mexico and Croatia, setting up a 3 way tie coming down to goal differential

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by DMBMike36
Italy def got screwed out of 2 goals, however their defense did make some key mistakes that led to the 2 croatia goals that never should have happen.

I think Italy will beat Mexico, and Ecuador will lose to both Mexico and Croatia, setting up a 3 way tie coming down to goal differential

i agree Mike
What does everyone here think about the development of group A ?

[eirikra]

Right now I r4eally don't want to say what I mean casuse I'm ewuully drunk.. and i really shouldnt be posting here now.. I should be asleepø... I just got home... it's 3 am I'm thinking about going to bed...

~Eirik

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by eirikra
Right now I r4eally don't want to say what I mean casuse I'm ewuully drunk.. and i really shouldnt be posting here now.. I should be asleepø... I just got home... it's 3 am I'm thinking about going to bed...

~Eirik

lol, take care Eirik

<--- **wonders what the hell does "ewuully" mean**

;)


Marcelo

[eirikra]

Originally posted by mrottondo


lol, take care Eirik

<--- **wonders what the hell does "ewuully" mean**

;)


Marcelo

hehe.. I think I meant "really", but I can't remember posting here last night, so it can be anything:) You decide! :)

~Eirik

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by eirikra


hehe.. I think I meant "really", but I can't remember posting here last night, so it can be anything:) You decide! :)

~Eirik

:lol :lol

[DMBMike36]

Originally posted by mrottondo



What does everyone here think about the development of group A ?

France will beat Denmark even though they wont have Petit and Henry, but Zidane will be back, Dugarry starts up front, with their backs to the wall they will win. Uruguay will beat Senegal, leaving every team in the group with 4 points. If both games are decided by 1 goal everyone will have an even goal differential. It will then go to least goals against which will most likely put France in first place in the group, Uruguay in 2nd

[eirikra]

Yeah well.. I hope Denmark and Uruguay gets in 1st or 2nd if it's possible:)

[mrottondo]

i hope so!! :) yes we really need to kick some african ass....

[Ethan]

my two cents on S. Korea vs. USA (http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?postid=213354#post213354)

[bstorey]

USA looked TIRED! Maybe those subs came in a bit late, hmmm... And the third sub was never used. A shame.

[mrottondo]

Uruguay vs Senegal tonight at 3:30 am , everybody's going to watch it here, so, everybody is going to be like zombie tomorrow, it should be an interesting day , lol
Oh, France vs Denmark is gonna be played at the same time, GO DENMARK AND GO URUGUAY! :)

[eirikra]

Originally posted by mrottondo
Uruguay vs Senegal tonight at 3:30 am , everybody's going to watch it here, so, everybody is going to be like zombie tomorrow, it should be an interesting day , lol
Oh, France vs Denmark is gonna be played at the same time, GO DENMARK AND GO URUGUAY! :)

yeah I'm really looking forward to the France vs Denmark game! I think I'll have to skip school some hours just to catch that game!

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by eirikra


yeah I'm really looking forward to the France vs Denmark game! I think I'll have to skip school some hours just to catch that game! er...Eirik my nordic friend..wouldn't u mind if i ask you to translate your sig to me? 'cause i don't understand one little bit of it :)

[eirikra]

Originally posted by mrottondo
er...Eirik my nordic friend..wouldn't u mind if i ask you to translate your sig to me? 'cause i don't understand one little bit of it :)

Hey I'll try:) It's taken from a saga from the time of the vikings.. the vikingtime:)

"As the night passed by, the king found out that they had to go out on a 'viking' (some kind of trip) to both Mo and Holt, and they sailed away from they're castles in the longship Ohma to meet the other clans. One of thos clans were the Bambars. They lived on the other side of the Herman Krag lake. King Gudbrand went over to the Bambar-king and asked him if he wanted to "Battle-drink" (I have no idea what the word is in english, but you understand?). The Bambar-king said "Let's drink like we're friends tonight", then he said "Later, the war will come, in the Ludøl-time". And that's how it ended, they drank like friends for a while, and sailed away.

I'm thinking about changing it.. it's too long and no one understands it. :) And there are tons of sagas that's 1000 times more fun to read:)

~Eirik

[eirikra]

Originally posted by eirikra


Hey I'll try:) It's taken from a saga from the time of the vikings.. the vikingtime:)

"As the night passed by, the king found out that they had to go out on a 'viking' (some kind of trip) to both Mo and Holt, and they sailed away from they're castles in the longship Ohma to meet the other clans. One of those clans were the Bambars. They lived on the other side of the Herman Krag lake. King Gudbrand went over to the Bambar-king and asked him if he wanted to "Battle-drink" (I have no idea what the word is in english, but you understand?). The Bambar-king said "Let's drink like we're friends tonight", then he said "Later, the war will come, in the Ludøl-time". And that's how it ended, they drank like friends for a while, and sailed away.

I'm thinking about changing it.. it's too long and no one understands it. :) And there are tons of sagas that's 1000 times more fun to read:)

~Eirik

Edit: This is not so very well translated but I trued as best as i could..

[eirikra]

and I meant to press the EDIT button and not the QUOTE button... :) Sorry about that one. My bad

:multi :bounce

[mrottondo]

hey it's cool
whoa..battle-drink, those vikings should drink stuff that would make a horse sleep with just a little glass of it...right? hehe

[mrottondo]

THAT WAS NOT A FUCKING PENALTY!!!!! FUCK!!!!!!
FUCK YOU DIOUFF FUCKING FAKER!!!!!! FUCK !! YOU!!!!

GRRRRR

[mrottondo]

wtf????!!!!!!!

[mrottondo]

oh well, we tied with Senegal, we did our best...the only thing i'm sure about, is that just 1 uruguayan player has just more BALLS than the entire senegalese team together

oh yeah, and wtf happenned to France?? 0 goals....1 point...4th in group A....man....at least we are 3rd :) lol

[mrottondo]

oh yeah, now i'm a Senegal hater, i want them to lose every single game they play now, i want them to suffer, yeah, they will lose 10 - 0 against Argentina, i sense it....lol

:rolleyes:

[BigEyedFish416]

Yeah Robbie Keane!!

Ireland rocking the Saudi's!

I love this....two good games on at once.

[eirikra]

Damn it.. too bad Uruguay came in 3rd!! I'd like to see them up there with Denmark!

And France... what are they doing?

[eirikra]

Originally posted by mrottondo
hey it's cool
whoa..battle-drink, those vikings should drink stuff that would make a horse sleep with just a little glass of it...right? hehe

Yeah you're right:) They drank something called "mjød"...

[bstorey]

Hey good rally by Uruguay though! And poor Cameroon, outplaying those nasty Germans for 60 minutes... but the officiating, OMG?! I've NEVER seen so many cards in my life. What was going on?!

France: go home and practice, come back when you're ready to play for real. What a wasted cup for them.

Ireland: Congrats, you play Spain (haha)... should be a fun game though

USA: If you don't beat Poland, I might vomit... but then again, if you do beat Poland I might vomit. I just sort of feel like vomitting =)

Germany: You can thank the Saudis you're in. 8 goals given up and then play Camaroon to a stand still and then roll over against Ireland? Who's paying THEIR checks? =)

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by bstorey
Hey good rally by Uruguay though! And poor Cameroon, outplaying those nasty Germans for 60 minutes... but the officiating, OMG?! I've NEVER seen so many cards in my life. What was going on?!

France: go home and practice, come back when you're ready to play for real. What a wasted cup for them.

Ireland: Congrats, you play Spain (haha)... should be a fun game though

USA: If you don't beat Poland, I might vomit... but then again, if you do beat Poland I might vomit. I just sort of feel like vomitting =)

Germany: You can thank the Saudis you're in. 8 goals given up and then play Camaroon to a stand still and then roll over against Ireland? Who's paying THEIR checks? =)

hey Ben, u forgot one....

Senegal : Go fuck yourselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D hey i had to vent!!!

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by eirikra


Yeah you're right:) They drank something called "mjød"...

ohh...that weird "o" in the name makes it a very strange and powerful drink....hehe

"i want a mjod bartender...serve one up for me...bartender please"

oh well..i just slept 2 hours! lol

[eirikra]

Originally posted by mrottondo


ohh...that weird "o" in the name makes it a very strange and powerful drink....hehe

"i want a mjod bartender...serve one up for me...bartender please"

oh well..i just slept 2 hours! lol

:lol :lol

:multi

[gbs3769]

I officially have footballitis. Yes folks, thats right. Yesterday when I went to my parents house, I resorted to dribbling my brothers soccer ball all around the kitchen. It pissed my mom off, but my hunger for soccer was sedated for a fe minutes.

Of course on the way home I had to buy Fifa Soccer 2K2 for PS2. Yeah, and I didn't have a PS2 so I had to buy one of those as well.

But I spent an enjoyable evening continuing the glory of Manchester United in the Premiership league.

- Matt

[Dooser]

sunday i played on a field the metrostars played on the night before. i thought that was pretty neat. plus i have a game today. wish me luck!

[DMBMike36]

wow, france couldnt buy a goal and senegal blew a lead (there first goal on the pk was bullshit anyway) and settled for a 3-3 tie. Denmark, Senegal, Germany, and Ireland on to the group of 16.

How about the games tommorow

Argentina vs. Sweden, England vs. Nigeria, Spain vs. South Africa, Paraguay vs. Slovenia

looks like interesting matchups for the round of 16.........Ireland vs. Spain, Denmark vs. England, Sweden, or Nigeria. USA vs. Mexico possibility

i am so addicted to soccer right now

how about the cameroon germany game. 7 yellow cards and a red each way:lol

[eirikra]

Originally posted by DMBMike36

how about the cameroon germany game. 7 yellow cards and a red each way:lol

That's insane

[gbs3769]

I'm going through more withdrawl...

The France game was pretty good, although I wish that France had won. I love watching Zidane play.

And I hate that the US doesn't care about soccer. Maybe if we didn't have so many piss poor sports (NBA, MLB, etc.) we might actually have some soccer fans here.

It seems like the only soccer fans are foreigners who became US citizens and the people who used to play soccer when they were little.

- Matt (7-1-1 in Premiership and 3-0-1 in ECC)

[mrottondo]

for tonight, the qualified teams will be : Sweden, England (sorry arg hehe)
and South africa and Spain

Let's see :)

Hey, i'm not really that angry anymore...but i frickin' hate Senegal and anything related to those buggers!!! lol

Take care!


Marcelo

[Rob]

Man... You each got a bullshit penalty, and Uraguay came back impressively (with the exception of their BS PK). They gave it their all. Senegal is hot right now. The hatred is strong...

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by Rob
Man... You each got a bullshit penalty, and Uraguay came back impressively (with the exception of their BS PK). They gave it their all. Senegal is hot right now. The hatred is strong...

Senegaleses are cowards, we were kicking their ass in the second half, and they just kicked the ball to the sides, I HATE SENEGAL, and i will hope them to lose 100000 - 0 against every other team

ggggggggrrrrrrrrrrr

[Rob]

I would tend to believe that Senegal didn't play the part of the coward... Their opponents today fell like children, complained constantly to the referee, and viciously tackled with intent of harm...

[DMBMike36]

would others agree that diving has been out of control this world cup? I can recall a few years back when I played some european teams in france and they dove a lot, but this is getting rediculous

[Rob]

Diving has always been a plague and they are clamping down on it more this year than in the past. With South American teams, however, it's ridiculous. Acting is a big part of their game- anybody who has watched Argentina has seen Ariel Ortega (the biggest diver in the past 25 years) take a dive and then complain to the ref for minutes on end. I think he's managed to get yellow cards given to balls in the past. He should have been kicked out of football after head-butting Van Der Sar 4 years ago, and he's still the biggest piece of shit in the World Cup.

It's still a major problem in SA, though- Ortega, Rivaldo, Ronaldo (who got a rule put in the books because he dove so much), Dunga, Silva... The list is ridiculously long. Every team in the world has a diver or two, but SA teams seem to have 5 or 6 each. Add to that the divers tend to have major attitude problems, they won't even think twice about launching a tackle that could break legs, and they complain to refs more in 5 minutes than most teams do in an entire game... It's disgusting.

[DMBMike36]

Originally posted by Rob
Diving has always been a plague and they are clamping down on it more this year than in the past. With South American teams, however, it's ridiculous. Acting is a big part of their game- anybody who has watched Argentina has seen Ariel Ortega (the biggest diver in the past 25 years) take a dive and then complain to the ref for minutes on end. I think he's managed to get yellow cards given to balls in the past. He should have been kicked out of football after head-butting Van Der Sar 4 years ago, and he's still the biggest piece of shit in the World Cup.

It's still a major problem in SA, though- Ortega, Rivaldo, Ronaldo (who got a rule put in the books because he dove so much), Dunga, Silva... The list is ridiculously long. Every team in the world has a diver or two, but SA teams seem to have 5 or 6 each. Add to that the divers tend to have major attitude problems, they won't even think twice about launching a tackle that could break legs, and they complain to refs more in 5 minutes than most teams do in an entire game... It's disgusting.

def

[JRD6785]

If you ever play overseas in europe you will find out that players at all levels will immediatly dive and act like they are in agony even if you barely touch them. It is what they are taught. They watch the professionals adn try and imitate them and they catch on to the diving part. The officials in the games that i played in over there did little to stop this. Sometimes they even rewarded the player who dived by giving a card to the oposing player

[DMBMike36]

Originally posted by JRD6785
If you ever play overseas in europe you will find out that players at all levels will immediatly dive and act like they are in agony even if you barely touch them. It is what they are taught. They watch the professionals adn try and imitate them and they catch on to the diving part. The officials in the games that i played in over there did little to stop this. Sometimes they even rewarded the player who dived by giving a card to the oposing player

when we played over there we were getting 3-5 cards a game, it was ridiculous

[JRD6785]

Originally posted by DMBMike36


when we played over there we were getting 3-5 cards a game, it was ridiculous

What team did you play for that went over there?

[DMBMike36]

I played for Beadling out of Pittsburgh, i went in 97 and 99

[Rob]

It happens everywhere, like I said. It's an epidemic in South America, where players match their bad acting up with vicious attacks on opposing players.

When we played in Europe we had a hard time matching the physicality. We didn't fall at all, and therefore were getting pushed all over the pitch.

[JRD6785]

i played for FC Bucks in '01 and in '00 i played for a EPYSA team.
The diving aspect of the game definatly sets american players especially young ones at a disadvantage

[DMBMike36]

Originally posted by JRD6785
i played for FC Bucks in '01 and in '00 i played for a EPYSA team.


cool, i played against eastern pa teams alot. Usually FC Delco and then I played against a lot of epa kids in odp

[Rdedeian]

mrottondo, I did all the cheering I could this morning, sorry it didn't help out the way you wanted.


Ireland = Round 2 YAH!!!!! :hug

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by Rdedeian
mrottondo, I did all the cheering I could this morning, sorry it didn't help out the way you wanted.


Ireland = Round 2 YAH!!!!! :hug

hey man thanks for cheering ;) it's a shame we couldn't make it thrugh, but CONGRATULATIONS for Ireland!!! :bounce

[mrottondo]

i'm watching arg vs swe, dude...what a boring first half....:o

[Rdedeian]

Originally posted by mrottondo
i'm watching arg vs swe, dude...what a boring first half....:o

yes, I agree. I changed it cause it was so boring.

[eirikra]

Haha.. the yellow card to Larsson for diving must be one of the most stupid decisions an official have done this WC (after the red card to turkey bc of rivaldo)

[Coster]

Originally posted by mrottondo
i'm watching arg vs swe, dude...what a boring first half....:o What the hell was espn thinking with those announcers?! I couldn't take it. I had to switch to the spanish channel. Much more exciting announcers there. They should have had the announcers for the england game as the announcers for the argentina/sweden game. That Irish guy is a great color commentator. I've always hated that Shamus guy who did the Argentina game. He's so prejudiced against non-european or non-white teams. He's not so bad as he was in past world cups but if you listen closely he always sides with the whiter team no matter what.:mad:

[Coster]

Originally posted by eirikra
Haha.. the yellow card to Larsson for diving must be one of the most stupid decisions an official have done this WC (after the red card to turkey bc of rivaldo) I was switching back and forth but if thats the same one I was thinking of then it was the right call. Was that the one where he had the break away and wasn't fast enough to pull away so he jumped in front of the defender to get a push? If not then I'm thinking of the wrong play. I thought that referee was extremely good and was decisive when he needed to be throughout the entire match.

[Rdedeian]

I can't believe Argentina and France are eliminated already, two of the teams that were favorite are out including the defending champ.

[Coster]

Originally posted by Rdedeian
I can't believe Argentina and France are eliminated already, two of the teams that were favorite are out including the defending champ. Yep. So far one favorite has gone out each day during the final games of the first round. So if this trend contnues is Italy next?:confused: ;)

[Rdedeian]

South Africa too, I remember ESPN before the cup starting saying there were somewhat of a favorite to win it.

[Rob]

South Africa? You heard wrong.

[Rdedeian]

Originally posted by Rob
South Africa? You heard wrong.


ESPN actually had them as one of there underdog favorites, and I was just watching ESPNnews and the irish guy (don't know his name) said it they were disapointing in the 1st round.


I really don't know much of soccer.

[Rob]

I'm wondering if you heard them referring to a South American team. South Africa wasn't in anybody's book to make it through to the round of 16.

[Rdedeian]

Originally posted by Rob
I'm wondering if you heard them referring to a South American team. South Africa wasn't in anybody's book to make it through to the round of 16.

It was South Africa.

[mrottondo]

well, surprise surprise, Argentina and France are out, and with Uruguay, it makes 3 world champions out in the first round...
i never thought of South Africa as a potential world cup winner, they're already out heheh ;)
Now, my favourite is Spain, it has a solid team and good individuals...
Italy could be there, Senegal can be a surprise (grrr, i hate them anyway)
And dont forget about Korea...they're playing good, and Brazill too ! :)
I love the world cup !!

[Rdedeian]

Germany is playing wicked good. Its probably going to be either them or Brazil probably.

[mrottondo]

i like Mathis's mohawk !!! lol

[DMBMike36]

Originally posted by mrottondo
i like Mathis's mohawk !!! lol

i do too, but he kinda copied Ziege from Germany and Beckham kinda. Ziege totally shaved his now

tommorow/tonight should be interesting, Italy might join France and Argentina at home

[mrottondo]

i will watch soccer tonight as everynight :)

[Terje]

Relax!! Senegal will NEVER win the WC. Go Denmark (or Sweden)!! Sorry, I'm Norwegian, so I have to.

Pleased to see France go.

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by typicalmonkey41
Relax!! Senegal will NEVER win the WC. Go Denmark (or Sweden)!! Sorry, I'm Norwegian, so I have to.

Pleased to see France go.

cool, norwegian people rule! have u ever talked to Eirik?

[Terje]

No, I haven't.

F@$%, that Uruguay-Senegal match was the most exiting I've ever seen!! That was a close call! Why did your coach wait so long to release those hungry strikers?? They kicked ass, and Forlan knows where the goal is afterall. I hate United, but he can score as much as he wants for Uruguay!

Norway will be back for the next WC. Then we'll kick ass!!

[mrottondo]

Originally posted by typicalmonkey41
No, I haven't.

F@$%, that Uruguay-Senegal match was the most exiting I've ever seen!! That was a close call! Why did your coach wait so long to release those hungry strikers?? They kicked ass, and Forlan knows where the goal is afterall. I hate United, but he can score as much as he wants for Uruguay!

Norway will be back for the next WC. Then we'll kick ass!!

hehe yeah it was a great game, it's a shame we have to go home early...oh well....

[mrottondo]

just watching Brazil vs Costa Rica now, cool game, 3-1 in 1st half, cool goal by Edmilson, and Ronaldo is getting back to his good times :) let's see what goes on 2nd halfffff

[Terje]

2-5. Hell of a game!! Some nice attacking, and poor defending.

[Rob]

It's the "Take goals away from Italy!" show. This is fucking disgusting.

[Rob]

We're through!!! Del Piero for President! Totti should be shot repeatedly, as should Montella... Ah, well- we're through- hopefully we'll get the U.S. in the quarters! :D

[eirikra]

damnit I missed the game:( *hate school*

[Coster]

Originally posted by Rob
It's the "Take goals away from Italy!" show. This is fucking disgusting. :rolleyes: Maybe they should look to see where the opposing defenders are and stay onside.;)

Mexico played a great game and deserved to win the group. They've had a hell of a world cup so far despite all the doubters.:) That goal by Borgetti was fucking incredible! I can't believe he got that shot on goal. Completely froze the goaltender. And after that they completely controlled the action. Its nice to watch a good passing team. I know you can't expect a team to be that good all of a sudden but I wish the United States would learn to play like that.

Overall I think it was a good match by both teams and fun to watch. Both teams knew how to play the game and had good opportunities. Both teams could have scored more than they did, with most of Italy's chances coming in the first half and most of Mexico's in the second half. Italy really needed that goal they got near the end of the game or else they would have had no momentum backing into the second round. Obviously they would have gone through anyway but they really needed that goal.

VIVA MEXICO !!!

I'll be waking up at 4:30 again tomorrow to watch the US play Poland.:) I love the World Cup!:D GO USA!!!

[Rob]

They were certainly onsides...

What the announcers didn't seem to understand is that is how Italy almost always plays. They don't have a ton of possession. They stretch the other team out, then counter quickly. Their goals almost always come in transition.

It was a well fought game on both sides. I love watching the Italian style of play, and Mexico's brought out the best in it.

The officiating on the sidelines was, as has been the case for the entire Cup, piss-poor. This cup will be known for two things- big guns falling in the first round, and the horrible officiating. Germany's last game was the icing on the cake- 14 yellow cards and 2 red cards. Before that we had Italy-Croatia. Even Brazil's first game was horribly officiated. You should rarely notice the man in the middle, but in these games they've taken center stage. This needs to stop.

[Coster]

I actually think this officiating is good. I hate seeing all the dives and hard tackles and they are starting to crack down on it. It gives more integrity to the game. Sure they can't get every call right but but its better than letting that shit go. It was nice to see Italy get yellow cards for those dives they were taking today......and they weren't onsides.;)

[Rob]

You're wrong ;) I have the arials from the scaffolding. They were clearly onsides. The referee wasn't paying attention to when the ball was released. If you look at the players when they receive the ball, they're in an offsides position, but that doesn't matter- what matters is when the ball was released, and if you're looking at the linesman, he's clearly looking at the distributor, not the receiver, when the ball is released. He fucked up, we move on. At least it didn't cost us the game this time.

I'm glad they cracked down on the dives as well. Italy's were blatant. Mexico had them, too, but they went unpunished, which isn't surprising when playing a physical team like Italia.

It's not just my opinion about subpar refereeing, however. It's all over discussion boards. They're as tired as the players after the club seasn and they're simply making bad calls, missing important decisions, and generally drawing attention to themselves. Having the World Cup in Korea/Japan was a mistake. It's rushed, play has suffered, officiating has suffered, and because of it the fans are suffering.

[Coster]

Originally posted by Rob
I'm glad they cracked down on the dives as well. Italy's were blatant. Mexico had them, too, but they went unpunished, which isn't surprising when playing a physical team like Italia. I know we were rooting for opposing teams so we are going to see differnet things, but I don't think that Mexico dived at all. The only dives from them were by Blanco and none of them were called except for maybe one, but even on that one there was contact. In the last two world cups I think Mexico has really played the game with integrity, cutting down on the diving and hard tackles. It really is a point of pride with this team for me. In 94 they weren't worse than most of the teams but they did do their fair share of diving and had a lot of hard tackles. But in France four years ago and this year they have played a clean game on both sides of the ball and I'm extremely happy to see that.

As far as the refereeing I haven't seen every game and didn't see that Germany game with all the cards, but those that I have seen have been called great. I think people are saying there are bad calls because a lot of the favorites are losing and having a hard time, but I think thats just an excuse. And as always there is going to be one or two referees in the WC who are horrible from start to finish. But almost every yellow that has been given out has shown to be on the money in the replays of the games that I've seen, especially for the dives, which I'm extremely happy to see.

And we can go on forever on the offsides calls but I maybe only saw one that was close. The others were all good calls. Thats going to happen when you play the long high lobs like that.

[Rob]

I think watching a game with England, Germany, Spain, Italy, etc- they've done a good job with cracking down on the diving and acting. I said something like this earlier- every team has a diver or two in Europe, and they're finally being punished.

Watch a game with a team from South America- Uraguay, Brazil, Argentina- it looks like diving is accepted. Granted, that's 90% of what some of these teams do so they're good at it, but it's absolutely disgraceful. I can physically angry watching these games because the teams forgo their talent and go with hardcore cheating. Whereas European teams have one, two, or maybe three divers, SA teams are comprised of divers. They should have judges on the side rating their form, not referees calling a football match.

Personally, I'm glad to see Argentina out. I like watching France play when they're in top form, but clearly they weren't anywhere near top form this year.

I don't like Germany, I don't like their players, I don't like their style of play. However, they're a good team and deserve to go through, as they did. My concern now, however, is that the referee from their last game has seriously impacted their chances on this game by accumulating yellow cards. The Germans will be down several of their best players due to a referee who lost control of a match, not due to foul or dirty play, and that is a disgrace that will mar the entire World Cup, especially if Germany (who look to be the strongest team right now) bows out in the round of sixteen.

[slitz]

the way things are shaping up right now for the u.s. is great. either mexico or italy. obviously mexico is the weaker team, but both teams are beatable. its a great time to be a us soccer fan. finally, all of these years have paid off!

go u.s.a

slitz

[Coster]

Originally posted by slitz
the way things are shaping up right now for the u.s. is great. either mexico or italy. obviously mexico is the weaker team, but both teams are beatable. its a great time to be a us soccer fan. finally, all of these years have paid off!

go u.s.a

slitz Mexico won the group and tied Italy...don't think you can call them the weaker of the two teams. And I think every team is beatable in the World Cup this time around. A lot of parody going on. Even the Asian teams are lookin good. And if the US plays the rest of the tournament the way they played South Korea they are not going to be around for very much longer. Luckily for them South Korea is not a very good finishing team.