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PantalaNagaMan
06-13-2007, 03:13 PM
This threads sole purpose is to let us know what league your in, what song you want to drop and what song you want to add. It comes on a first come first serve basis and can only be approved by your leagues moderator or by John (Minarets#40).

No request will be granted unless requested in this thread.

Also remember, once you drop a song you can never pick it back up!

I hope you all are enjoying this so far! :)

Happy touring to you all.

DMBgirl87
06-13-2007, 03:52 PM
There will be no trading for the So Right league until 7/3.

To prevent mistake trading, and to eliminate a ton of writing for me :)

bradshaw06
06-13-2007, 03:55 PM
keeping track of dropped songs is going to be the hardest part of this thing, i think

GinaNMU
06-13-2007, 08:25 PM
You guys all rock for being mods/doing what you've been doing.

Big kudos :hump :lol

WiseManSay
06-13-2007, 08:44 PM
Scenerio: Okay say I decide to take Shotgun [assuming it is available] instead of having say Big Eyed Fish.

Question:

1. If Big Eyed Fish was played say once in the first five shows but Shotgun was played three times, does the swamp include points? I mean, can I get the points that Shotgun had accumulated when I didn't have it and do I lose the points that Big Eyed Fish got me when I had it? Or is it strictly what ever songs are in your roster at the time you receive points for regardless if you decide to swap it later on?

I haven't seen anything about this yet and thought this would be a good place to ask.

GoLdpHiShDMB
06-13-2007, 09:57 PM
I'm sure the answer to that question is no. It doesn't work that way in any other fantasy leagues, and I hope it doesn't here.

WiseManSay
06-13-2007, 09:58 PM
Just thought I'd ask since there were a few rules I was surprised by already.

GoLdpHiShDMB
06-13-2007, 10:00 PM
Just thought I'd ask since there were a few rules I was surprised by already.Well I hope that isn't a rule:lol

Minarets#40
06-13-2007, 11:13 PM
Scenerio: Okay say I decide to take Shotgun [assuming it is available] instead of having say Big Eyed Fish.

Question:

1. If Big Eyed Fish was played say once in the first five shows but Shotgun was played three times, does the swamp include points? I mean, can I get the points that Shotgun had accumulated when I didn't have it and do I lose the points that Big Eyed Fish got me when I had it? Or is it strictly what ever songs are in your roster at the time you receive points for regardless if you decide to swap it later on?

I haven't seen anything about this yet and thought this would be a good place to ask.
Answer:

Whatever points Big Eyed Fish earned while it was still your song, you get to keep. Whatever songs Shotgun had before you changed to it do NOT get added to your score. Your score is the total that all of your songs earn while they are your songs. Any points earned by a song while it was not your song will not affect your score.

Minarets#40
06-13-2007, 11:15 PM
Also, for the record:

League Say Goodbye and League Last Stop will NOT have any trading done before 7/3 unless you PM me and get it approved first. I will basically only allow trading if there was some problem in the draft - I won't allow trading just because you changed your mind until 7/3.

Thanks!

maya
06-13-2007, 11:24 PM
League Two Step will be following the same rules - No trading until 7/3

PantalaNagaMan
06-14-2007, 11:00 PM
All trading for every league begins 7/3/2007

All trading and dropping must be done by 1:00 P.M. Eastern Time the day of a concert.

All trading stops at the end of the regular season.

DMBgirl87
06-15-2007, 11:13 PM
Thanks guys for agreeing with me :)

Minarets#40
07-02-2007, 09:11 PM
Trading starts tomorrow!

Minarets#40
07-03-2007, 07:33 AM
alright let's hear it... trading is open!

maya
07-03-2007, 09:12 AM
you guys won't mind looking after Two Step during the time i need to sleep right? I'm 100% sure nothing will happen :D

jayman414
07-03-2007, 06:04 PM
add and dropping for League LLD will begin at 12AM on july 3rd

maya
07-03-2007, 09:12 PM
Has anyone made any trades?

Minarets#40
07-03-2007, 11:24 PM
... it doesn't appear so ...

maya
07-03-2007, 11:27 PM
well i spose it makes life easy!

Minarets#40
07-03-2007, 11:30 PM
yeah... I have to edit the spreadsheet for every trade that gets done...

but I think Con_Man3000 is going to be adding/dropping a song based on his post in the So Right thread..

maya
07-03-2007, 11:32 PM
Gonzo was looking for a trade in SUAD but there are no takers

Nothing is happening in two step as per usual :)

Happy almost 4th of July?

Minarets#40
07-03-2007, 11:38 PM
haha yeah... I'd say same to you but it's not really appropriate... :lol

maya
07-03-2007, 11:44 PM
haha yeah... I'd say same to you but it's not really appropriate... :lol

No not really. But we get Australia Day and ANZAC Day and the Queens Birthday and when George W comes into Sydney we get a day off too.... so you know..... bludgey!

I've been tempted into going out at lunchtime and buying cds.... totally not fair! hehehe. Tell me something good to buy!

Minarets#40
07-05-2007, 09:30 PM
League Last Stop:

bennetts
drops:
Can't Stop & OOMH
picks up:
FTT and Stand Up

approved by me

Minarets#40
07-06-2007, 04:46 PM
League Last Stop:

TheGoodGoodTime
drops:
Proudest Monkey
picks up:
Busted Stuff

jayman414
07-08-2007, 12:53 PM
I would like to drop Stolen Away and pick up Busted Stuff for the pig league

Seanieb
07-08-2007, 10:15 PM
Drop - Song that Jane Likes
Pick-Up - Sweet Up and Down

League - Last Stop

Minarets#40
07-08-2007, 10:18 PM
Drop - Song that Jane Likes
Pick-Up - Sweet Up and Down

League - Last Stop
this can be changed, but not for it to still count for the Toyota Park show... so the first show it would take effect for is the 8.1.07 show

DirtyDeeds449
07-08-2007, 11:23 PM
League Say Goodbye

Drop: Gravedigger
Pick Up: Joy Ride

Seanieb
07-08-2007, 11:58 PM
this can be changed, but not for it to still count for the Toyota Park show... so the first show it would take effect for is the 8.1.07 show

Well, does that mean the request did not go through, because I would like to change it to STJL for "Falling off the Roof" if it's possible. If we can't pick up FOTR then I'll stick with SUAD.

Minarets#40
07-09-2007, 12:00 AM
Well, does that mean the request did not go through, because I would like to change it to STJL for "Falling off the Roof" if it's possible. If we can't pick up FOTR then I'll stick with SUAD.
Jantz and I will have to discuss what to do with FOTR.... I'll note your request for a change, and no one else can grab those songs before you do, and we'll get back to you about the change. we've got plenty of time before the next show though so it should be easy

DMBgirl87
07-09-2007, 12:33 AM
I just want you all to know, that in So Right, all changes must be approved or acknowledged by me for it to count....

JBrown032
07-09-2007, 01:31 PM
Jantz and I will have to discuss what to do with FOTR.... I'll note your request for a change, and no one else can grab those songs before you do, and we'll get back to you about the change. we've got plenty of time before the next show though so it should be easy


I'd like to be the first in League Granny to request Falling Off the Roof once you decide what to do with it. Thanks.

symbian
07-10-2007, 01:30 PM
how do we know what songs are available in our league?

bradshaw06
07-10-2007, 01:50 PM
how do we know what songs are available in our league?

check with the mod from your league, he or she will be able to help you out

jsilvia2
07-10-2007, 08:45 PM
I too would like to request Falling off the Roof in league Say Goodbye, that is if you guys say it is possible

Minarets#40
07-11-2007, 07:23 AM
League Say Goodbye

Drop: Gravedigger
Pick Up: Joy Ride
approved!

WiseManSay
07-11-2007, 03:54 PM
Why are you guys considering adding new songs into the song selection? Just let the songs that we didn't count on being played or had no idea that existed count as 0 points for everyone. You guys can't seriously want to add what ever songs come our way. It will only make things more complicated.

Keep the song list the same.

Minarets#40
07-11-2007, 10:24 PM
Why are you guys considering adding new songs into the song selection? Just let the songs that we didn't count on being played or had no idea that existed count as 0 points for everyone. You guys can't seriously want to add what ever songs come our way. It will only make things more complicated.

Keep the song list the same.
Jantz unilaterally decided to add "New Song" to the list, with the same rules as Cover Song in that you can only get points for it once per show.

DirtyDeeds449
07-15-2007, 12:51 AM
approved!

Thankyasir!

bustdstuff
07-26-2007, 04:48 PM
I PM'd my mod yesterday. Sorry that I forgot to announce this here.

Dropping: Shotgun, DIDO
Picking Up: Help Myself, Pay For What You Get
League: So Right

DMBgirl87
07-26-2007, 05:00 PM
I PM'd my mod yesterday. Sorry that I forgot to announce this here.

Dropping: Shotgun, DIDO
Picking Up: Help Myself, Pay For What You Get
League: So Right

Approved :)

WiseManSay
07-26-2007, 07:23 PM
[quote=DMBgirl87;6330025]Approved :)
What did you really do in this process? :D:D

bustdstuff
07-26-2007, 07:26 PM
What did you really do in this process? :D:D

She took precious time out of her day to read my PM, and she replyed to said PM.:hump

Minarets#40
07-26-2007, 09:44 PM
She took precious time out of her day to read my PM, and she replyed to said PM.:hump
AND she PMed me something about it... :D

DMBgirl87
07-27-2007, 02:08 PM
Approved :)
What did you really do in this process? :D:D
Screw you dude:)

rosen4
07-27-2007, 08:19 PM
I know you are still deciding what to do with FOTR, but I'd like to request dropping Smooth Rider and picking up FOTR if you decide to put FOTR into the pool. Leauge: Busted Stuff.

Thanks

rosen4
07-30-2007, 03:58 AM
New problem: In light of the Stefan poll, will Blue Water be made available in the pools?

rosen4
07-30-2007, 12:26 PM
If FOTR is not going to be made available, I'd like to request dropping Smooth Rider and picking up Blue Water, but Blue Water is not on the list. League: Busted Stuff

Minarets#40
07-30-2007, 08:59 PM
I'm pretty sure (can't say 100% just yet, but pretty sure) that we'll be able to offer Blue Water as a group D song... Spotlight and YNK weren't on the list at the time of the draft, but we let people who thought of them pick them up, I'd imagine we can probably do the same thing here. It's not like the new songs where everyone finds out they exist at the same time... if anyone would have wanted Blue Water, I'm sure they'd have brought that up.

Minarets#40
07-30-2007, 11:59 PM
For fear of being blamed of insider trading, since I know that Jantz is about to make an announcement, I'd like to request a trade as of noon tomorrow. I've already contacted Jantz about what I want to trade. If by noon tomorrow no one has picked up this song, I'd like to make the trade. however, I feel obligated to give everyone else a fair chance at picking up this trade before I do. it's not really fair if I grab it now before it's officially announced as an option, nor is it fair if i just grab it right after the announcement.

TGaucho
07-31-2007, 01:13 AM
i'd officially like to drop Lover Lay Down in favor of Blue Water. League Say Goodbye

taparoo
07-31-2007, 02:31 AM
If FOTR is not going to be made available, I'd like to request dropping Smooth Rider and picking up Blue Water, but Blue Water is not on the list. League: Busted Stuff
Gotcha. Now I'll have to figure out how to update the spreadsheet...

Minarets#40
07-31-2007, 07:45 AM
i'd officially like to drop Lover Lay Down in favor of Blue Water. League Say Goodbye
this is approved...

rosen, pending approval by your mod (you might want to PM them about it) I'll get you fixed up too.

TGaucho
07-31-2007, 07:52 AM
this is approved...

rosen, pending approval by your mod (you might want to PM them about it) I'll get you fixed up too.
woo hoo!!! Gracias

:bounce :monkey :bounce

rosen4
07-31-2007, 11:04 AM
...rosen, pending approval by your mod (you might want to PM them about it) ....

Please see the post just before yours.

Minarets#40
07-31-2007, 09:24 PM
Please see the post just before yours.
oh haha i saw his league in his sig and wasn't thinking... I figured he wasn't your mod because the leagues didn't match up... my bad. I got you! :)

Minarets#40
07-31-2007, 09:24 PM
I'd like to drop IBYU and pick up Blue Water
League Granny

Jantz... :D

rosen4
08-01-2007, 02:47 AM
oh haha i saw his league in his sig and wasn't thinking... I figured he wasn't your mod because the leagues didn't match up... my bad. I got you! :)

I'll take that as an official approval. Thanks for that. And for the whole fantasy tour thang. It is fun so far.

PantalaNagaMan
08-01-2007, 05:39 AM
I'd like to drop IBYU and pick up Blue Water
League Granny

Jantz... :D

Approved

PantalaNagaMan
08-01-2007, 05:41 AM
Fuck it - why not.

Drive In Drive Out dropped

Blue Water picked up

League: Say Goodbye

Minarets#40
08-01-2007, 07:48 AM
Fuck it - why not.

Drive In Drive Out dropped

Blue Water picked up

League: Say Goodbye
uh... don't you mean league SUAD? :lol :lol
traitor!!

maya
08-01-2007, 08:23 AM
uh... don't you mean league SUAD? :lol :lol
traitor!!

heheheh, i was confused too....

Silly Jantz :hug

JamesM
08-01-2007, 12:35 PM
could the mod for bartender please pm the group b songs still available for League Bartender?

taparoo
08-01-2007, 01:14 PM
nevermind...

PantalaNagaMan
08-01-2007, 02:47 PM
uh... don't you mean league SUAD? :lol :lol
traitor!!

Oops.

lol.

martindcx1e
08-01-2007, 07:41 PM
Busted Stuff dropped

Blue Water picked up

League: So Right

Minarets#40
08-01-2007, 07:43 PM
Busted Stuff dropped

Blue Water picked up

League: So Right
for the record, this trade will not be able to go into effect until the 8/2 show

martindcx1e
08-01-2007, 07:44 PM
i still want it if that is possible...

broatchg
08-01-2007, 08:39 PM
If blue water hasn't been picked up in league two step I'd like to drop pig and pick it up. going out on a limb.

maya
08-01-2007, 08:44 PM
If blue water hasn't been picked up in league two step I'd like to drop pig and pick it up. going out on a limb.

As your mod, this should be okay.. i don't know where Jantz or John are, but i'll put it down, and count it from today's show (if thats good with the gods)

bustdstuff
08-01-2007, 09:01 PM
for the record, this trade will not be able to go into effect until the 8/2 show

Just thought I'd point out that this was John's response to a request at 6:41 tonight.

maya
08-01-2007, 09:17 PM
Just thought I'd point out that this was John's response to a request at 6:41 tonight.

Oh dammit i didn't even see that!

bustdstuff
08-01-2007, 09:24 PM
Oh dammit i didn't even see that!

:thumbsup

nothing that can't be fixed.

martindcx1e
08-01-2007, 09:24 PM
so then that means that i have it down for tonight?

bustdstuff
08-01-2007, 09:25 PM
According to John's post it will count as of tomorrow's show.

martindcx1e
08-01-2007, 09:28 PM
why cant i have it for tonights show. (i dont mean to be dense)

maya
08-01-2007, 09:30 PM
why cant i have it for tonights show. (i dont mean to be dense)

I think we made a cutoff time before each show.... As you can see my previous post i have no idea what it is.....

So yes, it'll count to tomorrow nights show, but not tonight

martindcx1e
08-01-2007, 09:32 PM
well here is to hoping bwbf is played tomorrow night

maya
08-01-2007, 09:34 PM
well here is to hoping bwbf is played tomorrow night

I hope so too :lol

Minarets#40
08-01-2007, 10:01 PM
for the record, the cutoff time we set was at 1:00 pm (either central time or in the timz zone of the show, I don't remember... I'll say time zone of the show, but I can't be positive.)

If you request it before that time but it's not approved until after that time, it still counts, though, so that shouldn't become a problem.

Tailz04
08-01-2007, 10:34 PM
would like to pick up #27 in league two step......if that is possible.....i will drop..hmmm...stolen away

Minarets#40
08-01-2007, 10:35 PM
would like to pick up #27 in league two step......if that is possible.....i will drop..hmmm...stolen away
new songs aren't being made available... sorry :shrug :thumbsup

bradshaw06
08-01-2007, 10:55 PM
Fuck it - why not.

Drive In Drive Out dropped

Blue Water picked up

League: Say Goodbye

approved:thumbsup

maya
08-01-2007, 11:01 PM
approved:thumbsup

I thought we were a team man :lol You let me down!

martindcx1e
08-01-2007, 11:17 PM
Busted Stuff dropped

Blue Water picked up

League: So Right
is this approved for tomorrow night?

Minarets#40
08-01-2007, 11:19 PM
is this approved for tomorrow night?
if your league mod approves it (Jenn?) - I don't see why she wouldn't though, so almost definitely...

martindcx1e
08-01-2007, 11:23 PM
is there a 5 song drop limit?

Tailz04
08-01-2007, 11:32 PM
drop stolen away for blue water...league two step

Minarets#40
08-01-2007, 11:33 PM
is there a 5 song drop limit?
yes... you have the whole tour to use those

Minarets#40
08-01-2007, 11:42 PM
I'd like to drop Say Goodbye and pick up Cornbread

league granny

bradshaw06
08-01-2007, 11:48 PM
^you are a quick one

TGaucho
08-01-2007, 11:51 PM
following suit:

dropping If I Had It All

picking up Cornbread

League Say Goodbye

Minarets#40
08-01-2007, 11:52 PM
^^ I do that assuming it'll be Group D - if it's not (which it should be considering that Dodo and ODH are - D&T doesn't seem to count toward grouping) I might reconsider. we'll see how it goes though

Minarets#40
08-01-2007, 11:52 PM
following suit:

dropping If I Had It All

picking up Cornbread

League Say Goodbye
instant approved!

bradshaw06
08-01-2007, 11:53 PM
im leaning towards doing the same

TGaucho
08-01-2007, 11:54 PM
instant approved!
sweeeeeet. If it gets played E1 more than 6 times this summer, i will be one very happy Tony

maya
08-02-2007, 12:00 AM
i don't know whether i want to do this

Dropping Hello Again for Cornbread

bradshaw06
08-02-2007, 12:02 AM
^approved

maya
08-02-2007, 12:04 AM
^approved

Thankyou good sir!

Minarets#40
08-02-2007, 12:14 AM
looks like dropping songs for Blue Water may have been a bonehead move... that soundcheck was fake...

oh well, at least it's backed a tiny bit by the fact that Fonz knows we want it

maya
08-02-2007, 12:17 AM
looks like dropping songs for Blue Water may have been a bonehead move... that soundcheck was fake...

oh well, at least it's backed a tiny bit by the fact that Fonz knows we want it

Yeah i found it a little crazy that people wanted to do that.... but hey. I live in backwards land

TGaucho
08-02-2007, 12:21 AM
looks like dropping songs for Blue Water may have been a bonehead move... that soundcheck was fake...

oh well, at least it's backed a tiny bit by the fact that Fonz knows we want it
well i made the move before today's alleged soundcheck anyways. I figured based on A) the rarity of LLD which i dropped for it, and B) the Fonz poll and subsequent MySpace blog, that it would pan out for the better. I'm not worried :)

maya
08-02-2007, 12:34 AM
Tony! i followed you into your Cornbread move.

You are my guru after all!

TGaucho
08-02-2007, 12:36 AM
Tony! i followed you into your Cornbread move.

You are my guru after all!
but that wasn't lazy at all! :eek

:headexplodes

maya
08-02-2007, 12:39 AM
but that wasn't lazy at all! :eek

:headexplodes

:lol you can only do laziness for so long my dear! In all seriousness though, i owe you my life for turning me onto Rodrigo Y Gabriela. It's pure magic

TGaucho
08-02-2007, 12:41 AM
:lol you can only do laziness for so long my dear! In all seriousness though, i owe you my life for turning me onto Rodrigo Y Gabriela. It's pure magic
glad to hear it milady. :) I really don't get tired of listening to them . . they're pretty damn amazing. I'll see you later in Bored . . dinner is beckoning

Sniper15
08-02-2007, 12:44 AM
League Pig

Can I drop the song that jane likes for #27?

Minarets#40
08-02-2007, 12:56 AM
League Pig

Can I drop the song that jane likes for #27?
new songs aren't draftable... didn't you read the important announcement?:p

broatchg
08-02-2007, 01:26 AM
i would like to drop blue water for cornbread already if possible...might regret it but i'd like points now rather than possibilities...i didnt see any from two step pick it up

taparoo
08-02-2007, 01:30 AM
i would like to drop blue water for cornbread already if possible...might regret it but i'd like points now rather than possibilities...i didnt see any from two step pick it up
look two posts above

PantalaNagaMan
08-02-2007, 01:38 AM
By the way I was kidding about my Blue Water thing guys....Im not a fan of those dream songs

Also MAYA - JOHN DID NOT KILL ME.

I am still here, and know that I am truly the one you love. I'm not as physical and outright emotional publically as John....But my heart is in your chest as is yours in mine.

maya
08-02-2007, 01:42 AM
By the way I was kidding about my Blue Water thing guys....Im not a fan of those dream songs

Also MAYA - JOHN DID NOT KILL ME.

I am still here, and know that I am truly the one you love. I'm not as physical and outright emotional publically as John....But my heart is in your chest as is yours in mine.

he... he lied to me..... he lied right to my face!!!

that is adorable Jantz. I'm touched!! I sented you a myspace comment with my fancy new beanie! did you see?

PantalaNagaMan
08-02-2007, 01:59 AM
Oh, it was as gorgeous as all your pictures. I'd comment back mentioning that, but I would be in fear of your knight in shining armor. :)

maya
08-02-2007, 02:07 AM
Oh, it was as gorgeous as all your pictures. I'd comment back mentioning that, but I would be in fear of your knight in shining armor. :)

My beanie is frightfully cunning! Why thankyou :smooch. He doesn't know about my myspace anyways.... he'd mock me, so i haven't told him :lol

martindcx1e
08-02-2007, 02:41 AM
might as well follow suit, i will drop big eyed fish for cornbread
league so right

(what is cornbread worth)

taparoo
08-02-2007, 03:03 AM
might as well follow suit, i will drop big eyed fish for cornbread
league so right

(what is cornbread worth)
You can't - new songs (Cornbread, Eh Hee, FOTR, #27 etc.) aren't counted as anything.

TGaucho
08-02-2007, 03:24 AM
You can't - new songs (Cornbread, Eh Hee, FOTR, #27 etc.) aren't counted as anything.
I beg to differ. #27 and FOTR are new as in really new, while Cornbread has been around for months. My request was already approved by my mod, and justly so. Not to mention that two of the league mods already requested it themselves. Cornbread is fair game, as per the posts quoted below
VVVVVV
I'd like to drop Say Goodbye and pick up Cornbread

league granny

following suit:

dropping If I Had It All

picking up Cornbread

League Say Goodbye

i don't know whether i want to do this

Dropping Hello Again for Cornbread

TGaucho
08-02-2007, 03:25 AM
i would like to drop blue water for cornbread already if possible...might regret it but i'd like points now rather than possibilities...i didnt see any from two step pick it up

might as well follow suit, i will drop big eyed fish for cornbread
league so right

(what is cornbread worth)
i suggest that you PM the mods of your leagues in addition to your posts here. They will approve you :)

taparoo
08-02-2007, 03:34 AM
Well, that's certainly news to me. It's not on the updated spreadsheet John sent me. Well, then. Sorry about any confusion that may have caused.

Minarets#40
08-02-2007, 08:15 AM
yeah it wasn't on the spreadsheet I sent before, but the stipulation that I think we're going by is whether it had been played before the draft. If it had, then everyone had a fair shot at it

bustdstuff
08-02-2007, 10:12 AM
I would like to ask who is responsible for keeping track of how many, and which songs people have dropped?

DMBgirl87
08-02-2007, 12:11 PM
I would like to ask who is responsible for keeping track of how many, and which songs people have dropped?

I do for our league Steph.

DMBgirl87
08-02-2007, 12:15 PM
for the record, this trade will not be able to go into effect until the 8/2 show

Thanks for that. I grabbed my phone at the tailgate and I saw I had a PM from him wanted to change songs and because I was already tailgating, it wasn't going to count :lol

DMBgirl87
08-02-2007, 12:16 PM
if your league mod approves it (Jenn?) - I don't see why she wouldn't though, so almost definitely...

:thumbsup :thumbsup I approved it.

martindcx1e
08-02-2007, 01:49 PM
i pm'd my mod about cornbread, just thought i would ask here a well. so cornbread is still a "legal" song for the taking?

taparoo
08-02-2007, 02:55 PM
yeah it wasn't on the spreadsheet I sent before, but the stipulation that I think we're going by is whether it had been played before the draft. If it had, then everyone had a fair shot at it
So what category is Cornbread in then?

DMBgirl87
08-02-2007, 04:03 PM
John or Jantz call my cell will ya lol
I'm on my way to the tailgate....

bustdstuff
08-02-2007, 04:11 PM
I do for our league Steph.

:thumbsup

Good to know it's by league. This could get complicated.

Minarets#40
08-02-2007, 07:50 PM
John or Jantz call my cell will ya lol
I'm on my way to the tailgate....
what's the number... I'll call ya :)

maya
08-02-2007, 08:35 PM
If blue water hasn't been picked up in league two step I'd like to drop pig and pick it up. going out on a limb.
(FROM PAGE 3)

Since broatchg posted this, he has changed his mind via PM wanting to drop Blue Water for Cornbread. This has been accepted by me.

Due to this:
drop stolen away for blue water...league two step
(ALSO FROM PAGE 3)
Tailz, will be offered Blue Water next as he requested it whilst broatchg had it.

The question i have is: If Tailz does accept this swap, will it count for tonight's show (as he requested it yesterday)?

Minarets#40
08-02-2007, 08:51 PM
(FROM PAGE 3)

Since broatchg posted this, he has changed his mind via PM wanting to drop Blue Water for Cornbread. This has been accepted by me.

Due to this:

(ALSO FROM PAGE 3)
Tailz, will be offered Blue Water next as he requested it whilst broatchg had it.

The question i have is: If Tailz does accept this swap, will it count for tonight's show (as he requested it yesterday)?
yeah it'll count for tonight... basically, if by 1:00 today every request had been made to get to the current situation, then it'll count. Personally, I think that as long as things are clearly done before the show and before and wind of the soundcheck comes out, I don't really see a problem with it...

maya
08-02-2007, 08:53 PM
yeah it'll count for tonight... basically, if by 1:00 today every request had been made to get to the current situation, then it'll count. Personally, I think that as long as things are clearly done before the show and before and wind of the soundcheck comes out, I don't really see a problem with it...

Wooooonderfulllll! As long as Tailz gets back to me :lol

once again, i thank thee!

bradshaw06
08-02-2007, 10:53 PM
wonder how many people will pick up out of my hands

maya
08-02-2007, 10:55 PM
wonder how many people will pick up out of my hands

I picked it for some guy in the two step league.... i bet you he's happy with me right now - 5 points is a very nice pickup.

zeppelinman
08-02-2007, 11:33 PM
I'd like to officially drop Drive In, Drive Out for Out Of My Hands. League Granny.

Minarets#40
08-02-2007, 11:35 PM
^^ I considered it, and I was hoping no one in my league did that until I really thought it through... damnit!

zeppelinman
08-02-2007, 11:43 PM
Yeah, not that I need the points, as I'm already kicking so much ass in our league but its always nice to strengthen my arsenal. ;)

Minarets#40
08-02-2007, 11:47 PM
Yeah, not that I need the points, as I'm already kicking so much ass in our league but its always nice to strengthen my arsenal. ;)
I hate to say it, but the addition of this song might just put you out of reach from the rest of the league...

good luck in the playoffs :rolleyes (I know it's early, but geez)

JamesM
08-03-2007, 12:03 AM
Stand Up for Cornbread
What You Are for Out of my Hands

League Bartender

zeppelinman
08-03-2007, 12:04 AM
Oh its way too early to tell, and I'm thinking Last Stop could pay off big for you by the end of the tour.

McBong
08-03-2007, 12:06 AM
Can i grab #27 or Cornbread for either Cry Freedom and Down by the river. League Say Goodbye.

Minarets#40
08-03-2007, 12:06 AM
JamesM making the big move!

martindcx1e
08-03-2007, 12:07 AM
(12:41 am this morning)
might as well follow suit, i will drop big eyed fish for cornbread
league so right
looks like cornbread was played. how many points is that worth seeing as i requested it before the deadline?

Minarets#40
08-03-2007, 12:08 AM
Can i grab #27 or Cornbread for either Cry Freedom and Down by the river. League Say Goodbye.
do people not read the important announcement?

I can't approve this until you tell me what songs you want to trade for what.

Minarets#40
08-03-2007, 12:09 AM
(12:41 am this morning)

looks like cornbread was played. how many points is that worth seeing as i requested it before the deadline?
currently stands at 5 points. I'd say that'll almost definitely stand, but it's technically still pending Jantz agreeing that it belongs in Group D. Relative to all the other songs placement, it has every reason to belong there.

So for now, 5 points is almost definitely what it's worth

McBong
08-03-2007, 12:10 AM
do people not read the important announcement?

I can't approve this until you tell me what songs you want to trade for what.

#27 for Cry Freedom
Cornbread for Down By The River
League Say Goodbye.

Minarets#40
08-03-2007, 12:13 AM
(12:41 am this morning)

looks like cornbread was played. how many points is that worth seeing as i requested it before the deadline?
ok i looked back and it wasn't yet approved by your mod. I'm assuming it will be, but I hadn't updated it yet, so if you think the post i made in the Fantasy Tour Discussion thread is wrong and should include you, or you should be higher, don't worry. Pending mod approval, I've got you in the books as having the points.

Minarets#40
08-03-2007, 12:13 AM
#27 for Cry Freedom
Cornbread for Down By The River
League Say Goodbye.
did you read the important announcement?

TGaucho
08-03-2007, 12:14 AM
#27 for Cry Freedom
Cornbread for Down By The River
League Say Goodbye.
you can't pick up #27 (as per the important announcement), and I already have Cornbread in your league

Minarets#40
08-03-2007, 12:15 AM
(12:41 am this morning)

looks like cornbread was played. how many points is that worth seeing as i requested it before the deadline?

ok I have you at 12 points total. that sound right?

McBong
08-03-2007, 12:17 AM
you can't pick up #27 (as per the important announcement), and I already have Cornbread in your league

whatever, im still kicking all your asses... :lol

TGaucho
08-03-2007, 12:19 AM
whatever, im still kicking all your asses... :lol
actually we're tied. :p

Minarets#40
08-03-2007, 12:20 AM
actually we're tied.
:lol it's true

martindcx1e
08-03-2007, 12:29 AM
ok I have you at 12 points total. that sound right?
sounds right to me, cornbread is worth 5 then per the "important announcement"?

Minarets#40
08-03-2007, 12:30 AM
sounds right to me, cornbread is worth 5 then per the "important announcement"?
for now, it's 5, but I need to talk to Jantz before it's definite.

bradshaw06
08-03-2007, 12:45 AM
ok if i can id like to drop ABI for cornbread league busted stuff

Minarets#40
08-03-2007, 12:46 AM
^^ it's still available in your league... :thumbsup

bradshaw06
08-03-2007, 12:49 AM
^^ it's still available in your league... :thumbsup

sweet, looks like it will be worth it to. abi- 2 points, cornbread-5(as of now, i know)

JamesM
08-03-2007, 12:53 AM
my mod isnt on to confirm my request :lorraine !

jsilvia2
08-03-2007, 01:31 AM
league say goodbye
drop so damn lucky
pick up out of my hands

hopefully this wasnt an isolated event and can get me some points in the future

ant_marching41
08-03-2007, 01:37 AM
League Granny

Drop Smooth Rider
Pick up OOMH

^
If thats possible. A list of available songs would help.

Minarets#40
08-03-2007, 02:27 AM
my mod isnt on to confirm my request :lorraine !
as stated in the OP, i can approve this. I'll approve it.

(for anything I approve, I'll allow the league mod to overrule my approval if he/she sees fit.)

ok if i can id like to drop ABI for cornbread league busted stuff

see the one above this

league say goodbye
drop so damn lucky
pick up out of my hands

hopefully this wasnt an isolated event and can get me some points in the future
approved

League Granny

Drop Smooth Rider
Pick up OOMH

^
If thats possible. A list of available songs would help.
that is possible, OOMH is still available. However, since I'm in that league, I'm not doing any moderator work associated with it, so let Jantz approve that.

taparoo
08-03-2007, 02:29 AM
League: Bartender

Drop: So Right
Pick Up: Some Devil

:bounce

maya
08-03-2007, 02:30 AM
League: Bartender

Drop: So Right
Pick Up: Some Devil

:bounce

I think that might be a wise choice..... i got a good feeling it will get played very soon

trpnwillie
08-03-2007, 02:34 AM
Stand Up for Cornbread
What You Are for Out of my Hands

League Bartender

:thumbsup

trpnwillie
08-03-2007, 02:37 AM
League: Bartender

Drop: So Right
Pick Up: Some Devil

:bounce

:thumbsup

ant_marching41
08-03-2007, 02:38 AM
that is possible, OOMH is still available. However, since I'm in that league, I'm not doing any moderator work associated with it, so let Jantz approve that.
Cool. Consider it mine then :)

Minarets#40
08-03-2007, 03:02 AM
Cool. Consider it mine then :)
I'd like to officially drop Drive In, Drive Out for Out Of My Hands. League Granny.
my bad... zeppelinman requested it earlier, i just hadn't updated the list yet. I just caught this as i was updating. so ant_marching (what's your real name) OOMH is not available anymore.

Minarets#40
08-03-2007, 03:05 AM
League Last Stop:

bennetts
drops:
Can't Stop & OOMH
picks up:
FTT and Stand Up

approved by me
looks like this wasn't such a great move so far... OOMH could have earned someone 5 points tonight!

macalex12
08-03-2007, 07:54 AM
League Bartender

Blue Water for Digging a Ditch

symbian
08-03-2007, 10:52 AM
is there a list of what is available in each league?

bustdstuff
08-03-2007, 11:07 AM
is there a list of what is available in each league?

I've been doing it myself. For my league anyway.

ant_marching41
08-03-2007, 12:13 PM
my bad... zeppelinman requested it earlier, i just hadn't updated the list yet. I just caught this as i was updating. so ant_marching (what's your real name) OOMH is not available anymore.
FUCK....

And my name is Ant.

Minarets#40
08-03-2007, 12:16 PM
FUCK....

And my name is Ant.
is it really? I always assumed that was just pulled from your username...

Minarets#40
08-03-2007, 12:19 PM
is there a list of what is available in each league?
I don't have time to update the whole list right now, but so far the only trades in league Granny since the draft include:

these songs are NOT available anymore:
OOMH
Cornbread
Blue Water

these songs ARE available now:
Smooth Rider
IBYU
Say Goodbye


if you look back in the league Granny thread there's a list i posted after the draft including all the free songs (I think)

ant_marching41
08-03-2007, 12:21 PM
I don't have time to update the whole list right now, but so far the only trades in league Granny since the draft include:

these songs are NOT available anymore:
OOMH
Cornbread
Blue Water

these songs ARE available now:
Smooth Rider
IBYU
Say Goodbye


if you look back in the league Granny thread there's a list i posted after the draft including all the free songs (I think)


Whoooa! I still have Smooth Rider, since the last waiver request was denied.

Minarets#40
08-03-2007, 12:29 PM
Whoooa! I still have Smooth Rider, since the last waiver request was denied.
yep, you're absuolutely right... geez I'm slipping :shrug

Drive In Drive Out is available, but Smooth Rider is not.

I accidentally deleted his trade instead of your trade.... :banned

ant_marching41
08-03-2007, 12:39 PM
yep, you're absuolutely right... geez I'm slipping :shrug

Drive In Drive Out is available, but Smooth Rider is not.

I accidentally deleted his trade instead of your trade.... :banned
Hey if you wanna give me the song, thats fine :lol

Its all good.

DirtyDeeds449
08-03-2007, 01:49 PM
iIf it's available,

League Say Goodbye
Drop - Proudest Monkey
Pick Up - Blue Water

Minarets#40
08-03-2007, 02:11 PM
iIf it's available,

League Say Goodbye
Drop - Proudest Monkey
Pick Up - Blue Water
it's not available... Tgaucho has Blue Water.

I'll post an available song list sometime today...

Minarets#40
08-03-2007, 02:24 PM
I'd just like to reiterate what is on the OP of this thread...

if there is no post in this thread about a trade being made, then no trade was made. period.

this thread is THE ONLY place that will officially be referenced to see who has what, and and disputes will go back to what is said in this thread.

bradshaw06
08-03-2007, 02:48 PM
I'd just like to reiterate what is on the OP of this thread...

if there is no post in this thread about a trade being made, then no trade was made. period.

this thread is THE ONLY place that will officially be referenced to see who has what, and and disputes will go back to what is said in this thread.

to add to this, i suggest that you pm your mod just so they know. this thread gets kinda flooded after the shows with alot of requests.

trpnwillie
08-03-2007, 03:40 PM
League Bartender

Blue Water for Digging a Ditch

:thumbsup

The ConMan 3000
08-03-2007, 03:46 PM
If it's available can I drop Stand Up for Cornbread.
League: So Right

bustdstuff
08-03-2007, 04:57 PM
it's not available... Tgaucho has Blue Water.

I'll post an available song list sometime today...

Thanks, that seems like quite a job.

martindcx1e
08-03-2007, 04:57 PM
If it's available can I drop Stand Up for Cornbread.
League: So Right

^i already have cornbread in league so right

ant_marching41
08-03-2007, 11:20 PM
If available

League Granny:
Drop Smooth Rider
Pick up Some Devil

bibby1044
08-04-2007, 12:45 AM
League Say Goodbye

drop Space Between
add Some Devil

Minarets#40
08-04-2007, 01:04 AM
League Say Goodbye

drop Space Between
add Some Devil
approved and updated!

ant_marching41
08-04-2007, 01:09 AM
How about me John? Are you the mod for Granny or is Jantz? I figured you were running things for now, or something along those lines.

Minarets#40
08-04-2007, 01:22 AM
^^ Jantz is the Granny mod, and I'm a member. I don't like to approve stuff in my own league, but I don't see how it could be perceived as me rigging anything in my own league... I've got ya. PM Jantz and let him know though

ant_marching41
08-04-2007, 01:24 AM
^^ Jantz is the Granny mod, and I'm a member. I don't like to approve stuff in my own league, but I don't see how it could be perceived as me rigging anything in my own league... I've got ya. PM Jantz and let him know though
You got it. Thanks.

JamesM
08-04-2007, 01:28 AM
when does the homepage get edited?

Minarets#40
08-04-2007, 01:32 AM
when does the homepage get edited?
Jantz has been in and out a lot lately... the homepage is his, so it's kinda done when he's available. he should be around a lot more as the tour goes on, but he's been really busy.

JamesM
08-04-2007, 01:33 AM
Jantz has been in and out a lot lately... the homepage is his, so it's kinda done when he's available. he should be around a lot more as the tour goes on, but he's been really busy. aight

Seanieb
08-04-2007, 04:53 PM
Drop - Song The Jane Likes
Pick Up - Corn Bread

Thanks!

League Last Stop

Minarets#40
08-04-2007, 05:08 PM
Drop - Song The Jane Likes
Pick Up - Corn Bread

Thanks!

League Last Stop
gotcha - and I'll waive the fact that it's technically not within the deadline, so it'll count for tonight

Seanieb
08-04-2007, 05:43 PM
gotcha - and I'll waive the fact that it's technically not within the deadline, so it'll count for tonight

Thanks dude! :-)

bustdstuff
08-04-2007, 07:03 PM
gotcha - and I'll waive the fact that it's technically not within the deadline, so it'll count for tonight

I'm not trying to start anything, but is that fair to people that didn't get requests in for Mansfield on time?

Minarets#40
08-04-2007, 10:08 PM
I'm not trying to start anything, but is that fair to people that didn't get requests in for Mansfield on time?
I understand where you're coming from... here's my thoughts on the issue:

- the point of the rule is twofold:

1. to make it easy on mods so we don't have to constantly monitor the thread - truth is, if we see it and decide we don't have a problem with it, what's the harm?

2. in case there's some last minute info right before the show that makes it so people know more than their supposed to (like if the setlist or soundcheck leaks, etc) - in cases like that, people would be earning points in a way that's a bit unfair. this rule tries to prevent that. however, in cases where that's clearly not the case, what's the harm?

so, in cases where there's really no harm, the mod of each league can really just decide for their league if they want to allow it. it makes no difference as long as within each league it's done uniformly. once we get to the playoffs everyone starts from scratch, and everyone will be monitored by the same people, so it won't become a problem then either.

- also, I checked and none of the requests that were turned down on account of time ended up making a difference in the score

if you still have an issue with it, that's fine and we can discuss it further. PM me if you'd like. I'm open to discussion.

rosen4
08-04-2007, 10:33 PM
League: Busted Stuff. Can I please drop Can't Stop and pick up Out Of My Hands (if no one has picked it up yet)? And I understand it doesn't count for tonight. Thanks.

DMBgirl87
08-04-2007, 11:29 PM
League Lover Lay Down:

Drop - IBYU
Add - Cornbread


Drop - DBTR
Add - OOMH

Semper454
08-04-2007, 11:29 PM
League Pig

Drop: Butterfly
Add: Corn Bread

Minarets#40
08-04-2007, 11:31 PM
League Lover Lay Down:

Drop - IBYU
Add - Cornbread


Drop - DBTR
Add - OOMH
i think you just became unstoppable...

DMBgirl87
08-04-2007, 11:52 PM
i think you just became unstoppable...

That's the plan. I should have done that yesterday. It's chill though.

I'm Money.


PS> you have my number when I told you to call me :lol

JamesM
08-04-2007, 11:53 PM
That's the plan. I should have done that yesterday. It's chill though.

I'm Money.


PS> you have my number when I told you to call me :lol what all do you have jenn?

DMBgirl87
08-04-2007, 11:55 PM
what all do you have jenn?

Two Step
Last Stop
Cover Song
One Sweet World
(Cornbread)
(Out Of My Hands)
Hunger For the Great Light

JamesM
08-04-2007, 11:55 PM
Two Step
Last Stop
Cover Song
One Sweet World
(Cornbread)
(Out Of My Hands)
Hunger For the Great Light

good god....

Minarets#40
08-04-2007, 11:56 PM
PS> you have my number when I told you to call me :lol
do i?

DMBgirl87
08-04-2007, 11:59 PM
do i?

Yeah I PMed it to you for the contact page incase anyone in my league needed me....the majority of them call me daily anyways :lol

Seanieb
08-05-2007, 05:43 AM
I'd like to drop Recently and pick up "out of My hands" Thanks!

Sean

rosen4
08-05-2007, 11:39 AM
League: Busted Stuff

Drop: Can't Stop (if my previous request was unapproved) or Gravedigger (if it was)
Pick-Up: Cornbread (if available)

Thanks

Minarets#40
08-05-2007, 12:05 PM
Yeah I PMed it to you for the contact page incase anyone in my league needed me....the majority of them call me daily anyways :lol
Your cell phone number wasn't in there I don't think... I don't have the original PM anymore but I copied all the info from it to a file with all the mods info. hmm...:rolleyes

maybe it was in there, but if so I don't have it anymore... feel free to PM it to me again though if you'd like..

The ConMan 3000
08-05-2007, 12:46 PM
Can I drop Stand Up for Out Of My Hands?
League So Right

Tailz04
08-05-2007, 02:15 PM
dropping stolen away for our of my hands....if available...for league two step

Minarets#40
08-05-2007, 03:15 PM
I'd like to drop Recently and pick up "out of My hands" Thanks!

Sean
approved

dropping stolen away for our of my hands....if available...for league two step
can't be approved... OOMH is already owned... sorry

Can I drop Stand Up for Out Of My Hands?
League So Right
can't be approved... OOMH is already owned... sorry

League: Busted Stuff

Drop: Can't Stop (if my previous request was unapproved) or Gravedigger (if it was)
Pick-Up: Cornbread (if available)

Thanks
your previous request is approved... however Cornbread has already been picked up, so this second one is not :shrug

rosen4
08-05-2007, 10:08 PM
League: Busted Stuff
Drop: Gravedigger
Pickup: Some Devil (if available)

taparoo
08-05-2007, 10:16 PM
League: Busted Stuff
Drop: Gravedigger
Pickup: Some Devil (if available)
Nobody has it. It's yours if you want it.

rosen4
08-05-2007, 10:32 PM
Nobody has it. It's yours if you want it.

Yes please. Thank you. I think I have done a decent job of fixing my screwed up list these past couple of nights. Now if Stefan will just come through with Blue Water...

symbian
08-06-2007, 10:13 AM
league: granny
drop: dreaming tree
pick up: shotgun

Steady37
08-06-2007, 01:37 PM
league so right:

dropping: dreaming tree
adding: shotgun

DMBgirl87
08-06-2007, 01:39 PM
league so right:

dropping: dreaming tree
adding: shotgun

APPROVED.

Minarets#40
08-06-2007, 09:38 PM
league: granny
drop: dreaming tree
pick up: shotgun
justin already has shotgun.. so not approved... sorry

Minarets#40
08-06-2007, 09:40 PM
league so right:

dropping: dreaming tree
adding: shotgun
kinda funny... when bustdstuff (Stephanie) joined the league, we let her make free trades since she didn't get to draft... funny enough, she dropped Shotgun...

ah such is the way the DMBFL goes...

maya
08-06-2007, 09:54 PM
kinda funny... when bustdstuff (Stephanie) joined the league, we let her make free trades since she didn't get to draft... funny enough, she dropped Shotgun...

ah such is the way the DMBFL goes...

:lol it's such a mad dash

Minarets#40
08-07-2007, 10:13 PM
I'd like to drop Loving Wings for SUAD

league granny

Tailz04
08-07-2007, 10:24 PM
league two step......drop stolen away for sweet up and down

jsilvia2
08-07-2007, 10:28 PM
league say goodbye
drop help myself
add SUAD

Thanks

maya
08-07-2007, 10:38 PM
league two step......drop stolen away for sweet up and down

Approved. SUAD will count as from tomorrow nights show.

Minarets#40
08-07-2007, 10:46 PM
league say goodbye
drop help myself
add SUAD

Thanks
approved :hump

martindcx1e
08-07-2007, 10:46 PM
League: So Right
Drop: What You Are
Pick Up: Sweet Up and Down

maya
08-07-2007, 10:48 PM
i'm wondering whether i should get on the SUAD bandwagon...

Tailz04
08-07-2007, 10:49 PM
also drop gravedigger and pick up shotgun.....if available......if it is not....then i would like to pick up blue water

Minarets#40
08-07-2007, 10:50 PM
i'm wondering whether i should get on the SUAD bandwagon...
it IS your league after all...

maya
08-07-2007, 10:51 PM
also drop gravedigger and pick up shotgun.....if available......if it is not....then i would like to pick up blue water

Broatchg has shotgun

this is what i can do for you.... as i was still waiting to hear from you about Bluewater, John put it on the fantasy tour spreadsheet anyways - using stolen away.

So i'll keep that change and i'll swap gravedigger for SUAD?

Minarets#40
08-07-2007, 10:51 PM
nvm Maya is on top of her league and my help is not needed.


Megan Salazar, you are just fantastic!

maya
08-07-2007, 10:53 PM
it IS your league after all...

hmmm yes... SUAD for Stolen Away (i'm going to be so cut if SUAD is a one time only thing)

League SUAD

maya
08-07-2007, 10:54 PM
nvm Maya is on top of her league and my help is not needed.


Megan Salazar, you are just fantastic!

I'm a stupendous multitastker

Ascf33
08-07-2007, 10:55 PM
^ Damn you!

Tailz04
08-07-2007, 10:55 PM
thanks maya.

DaveMB36
08-07-2007, 10:56 PM
hmmm yes... SUAD for Stolen Away (i'm going to be so cut if SUAD is a one time only thing)

League SUAD

Damn you....beat me too it but can i get Crazy-Easy for Proudest monkey

Minarets#40
08-07-2007, 10:58 PM
hmmm yes... SUAD for Stolen Away (i'm going to be so cut if SUAD is a one time only thing)

League SUAD
ladies and gentlemen... here's a PERFECT example of why we run things the way we do. this post was at 8:53 pm (central) requesting SUAD in league SUAD - at 8:53 i also received a PM requesting this song. the first post in this thread states that all trades MUST be posted in this thread to count... though it's unclear who actually asked first, it has to go to the one posted in this thread...

seems picky i know, but without that rule I'd be stuck in a tough position right now. :shrug

DaveMB36
08-07-2007, 11:00 PM
ladies and gentlemen... here's a PERFECT example of why we run things the way we do. this post was at 8:53 pm (central) requesting SUAD in league SUAD - at 8:53 i also received a PM requesting this song. the first post in this thread states that all trades MUST be posted in this thread to count... though it's unclear who actually asked first, it has to go to the one posted in this thread...

seems picky i know, but without that rule I'd be stuck in a tough position right now. :shrug

Thats cool rules are rules but i get crazy easy :hug

maya
08-07-2007, 11:00 PM
phew, luckily i didn't contemplate it further

DMBgirl87
08-07-2007, 11:09 PM
League: So Right
Drop: What You Are
Pick Up: Sweet Up and Down

Approved.

DMBgirl87
08-07-2007, 11:10 PM
I think picking up SUAD isn't going to be smart...it sounded really on, but i think its going to be like joyride from 06....

maya
08-07-2007, 11:15 PM
I think picking up SUAD isn't going to be smart...it sounded really on, but i think its going to be like joyride from 06....

Yeah, i agree with you there, but i may just benefit from it for a little while... 5 point bounty is a little bit dandy.

martindcx1e
08-07-2007, 11:16 PM
i guess we will find out