Fantasy Football 2007-2008

[ProudestAnt]

Let's get all the discussions in here. Post your teams, your thoughts and your questions. ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!!

[JRod1229]

My draft isn't until the end of August...

Though I do have a question... in what round, if avail, would you take Calvin Johnson?

[rubrink]

Calvin Johnson...are we talking redraft leagues?

[cwsrule88]

My draft isn't until the end of August...

Though I do have a question... in what round, if avail, would you take Calvin Johnson?

im not sure but i would take roy williams before i take calvin johnson if he still on the board

[Tiduwho]

Yeah, my draft is at the end of the month as well. I wouldn't want to do it before then, when injuries can happen in the worthless preseason.


In one league I have 18 people this year!! Man, that's gonna be slim pickens...

[DMBZeppelin]

My draft isn't until the end of August...

Though I do have a question... in what round, if avail, would you take Calvin Johnson?
Earliest I've seen him go in a few EPSN drafts I've done is Round 8. He should have a pretty good year. Three Bears players you could grab late that most people don't draft. Tight End Greg Olsen. Kid ran a 4.7 and a 4.9 40 time at the NFL Combine. He's starting for the Bears this year, and looked good in his first pre-season game to back up an amazing camp. Wide Reciever Devin Hester. Turns out he has great hands. Not good, but great hands according to the coaches. I saw him make a nice sliding catch in the pre-season. I don't think he'll lead the NFL in yards or anything like that. With his speed though. He's a threat to rake up some TD's for you.

Finally QB Rex Grossman. Guy has tore up the Bears defense in training camp, and in their first pre-season game completed his first 8 passes. In 2006 he had 11 good to great games to 5 horrible. Until the last week of the season he led the NFL in games of a QB Rating of 100+ with 7. P. Manning passed him on the last week of the season for 8. He passed for 3,000+ yards and had 23 touch downs. He worked on his mechanics all offseason with a new QB coach (the one from last year is now working his magic on Romo). He doesn't throw off his backfoot under pressure. Early in 06' Rex was sometimes the best fantasy QB. I don't know if he'll repeat what he did the first two months of 06', but he's much improved and a great sleeper.

Also WR, Greg Jennings on the Packers and RB, Brandon Jackson complete my list of NFC North sleepers. Oh and one more guy on the Lions besides Johnson is Tatum Bell. Kevin Jones is hurt, and Tatum Bell will start early. Good guy to have since he's a starter you can get very late. Jay Cutler who's a special talent, and Leinart who's had a good offseason are two other QB's who will start to look for late. Ok sorry to ramble, but just trying to give you some tips.

[DMBZeppelin]

Yeah, my draft is at the end of the month as well. I wouldn't want to do it before then, when injuries can happen in the worthless preseason.


In one league I have 18 people this year!! Man, that's gonna be slim pickens...
Wow I thought the ESPN drafts were bad with 10 people. I can't even imagine that. LT is death in that league. You take LT with the 1st pick, and don't go again till 19.

[Tiduwho]

Wow I thought the ESPN drafts were bad with 10 people. I can't even imagine that. LT is death in that league. You take LT with the 1st pick, and don't go again till 19.

Yeah, but think about it. At least LT can make up for it (had him last year with the 1st pick...no other player was even close in fantasy points). If you have the 3rd pick, you take LJ or SA or whoever and they may end up hurt or just not have that great of a season. Now that's death.

[UNC41]

If you're going to talk big time sleepers in the NFC North Troy Williamson's name should be thrown into the mix. Drops have killed him in the past, but he's worked hard on that. I've read conflicting reports that have said he had Lasik surgery and others that said he didn't. What has been confirmed is that he went to some Nike lab where he went through numerous eye drills to help his ability to see the ball. When you combine that with the more than 15,000 balls he caught this offseason and Jackson liking him as a target, Williamson's worth taking a flyer on very, very late in fantasy drafts.

[Tiduwho]

If you're going to talk big time sleepers in the NFC North Troy Williamson's name should be thrown into the mix. Drops have killed him in the past, but he's worked hard on that. I've read conflicting reports that have said he had Lasik surgery and others that said he didn't. What has been confirmed is that he went to some Nike lab where he went through numerous eye drills to help his ability to see the ball. When you combine that with the more than 15,000 balls he caught this offseason and Jackson liking him as a target, Williamson's worth taking a flyer on very, very late in fantasy drafts.

Yeah, I almost went him at the end of my draft last year, but Tarvaris looks like Henry Burris 2.0...

[DMBZeppelin]

Yeah, I almost went him at the end of my draft last year, but Tarvaris looks like Henry Burris 2.0...
Only a true fan would even attempt to remember the end of the 2002 season. I remember everyone thought he could be good. Granted the guy ran for a lot of 1st downs. He had speed, but a HORRIBLE arm. That's the year Gilmore emerged as a tight end if I remember correctly.

[UNC41]

Yeah, I almost went him at the end of my draft last year, but Tarvaris looks like Henry Burris 2.0...

I've read only positive things about Jackson's work ethic, ability to pick up the West Coast offense and potential as a quarterback. I don't think he'll be dominant this year, but could be a pleasent surprise. It should be noted I'm not a Vikings fan.

[Tiduwho]

I've read only positive things about Jackson's work ethic, ability to pick up the West Coast offense and potential as a quarterback. I don't think he'll be dominant this year, but could be a pleasent surprise. It should be noted I'm not a Vikings fan.

Just around a lot of Minny homers...:)



So what's the lowdown on Ronnie Brown? I haven't even heard his name all summer.

[UNC41]

Just around a lot of Minny homers...:)



So what's the lowdown on Ronnie Brown? I haven't even heard his name all summer.

That could be said of anything about any player from a local paper. I've read similar things by Peter King and some others. Still, I'm not advocating Jackson as a fantasy pick this year. Just saying people are writing good things.

I feel good about Ronnie. Once he got healthy last year, he closed out the season with a couple of good games. And I don't think there is any way running in Cameron's offense will be a bad thing for him.

[DMBfan41]

anyone with a league that needs members?

[BellybuttonKid]

QB Matt Leinart
WR Anquan Boldin
WR Hines Ward
WR Santana Moss
RB Edgerrin James
RB Joseph Addai
TE Antonio Gates
W/R Frank Gore
BN Philip Rivers
BN Vincent Jackson
BN D.J. Hackett
BN Cedric Benson
BN Marshawn Lynch
BN Tatum Bell
BN Kevin Jones

K Vinatierri

DEF Denver

This is a hardcore keeper league...We keep 10 players and redraft the rest...

EDIT: Some of you might question my logic in using Leinart as my QB, but I feel like he is due for a breakout year....If he doesn't I will plug Rivers in there.

Another thing, I have Denver defense, but Seattle, Dallas, and Carolina are available. Do you think I have the right choice with Denver?

[Tiduwho]

QB Matt Leinart
WR Anquan Boldin
WR Hines Ward
WR Santana Moss
RB Edgerrin James
RB Joseph Addai
TE Antonio Gates
W/R Frank Gore
BN Philip Rivers
BN Vincent Jackson
BN D.J. Hackett
BN Cedric Benson
BN Marshawn Lynch
BN Tatum Bell
BN Kevin Jones

K Vinatierri

DEF Denver

This is a hardcore keeper league...We keep 10 players and redraft the rest...

EDIT: Some of you might question my logic in using Leinart as my QB, but I feel like he is due for a breakout year....If he doesn't I will plug Rivers in there.

Another thing, I have Denver defense, but Seattle, Dallas, and Carolina are available. Do you think I have the right choice with Denver?

7 bench spots? Jeez man, I hope that's a small league because if not that isn't even fair. No matter what, you're going to be leaving big points on the bench.

Solid team. I sure wouldn't want to have to sift through that many running backs though.

[MikeMcGinnis44]

My fantasy draft is this Saturday at the ESPN zone in Las Vegas, I can't wait!

[watchtower41]

I've been seeing Calvin Johnson anywhere from 7-10th rounds

[BellybuttonKid]

7 bench spots? Jeez man, I hope that's a small league because if not that isn't even fair. No matter what, you're going to be leaving big points on the bench.

Solid team. I sure wouldn't want to have to sift through that many running backs though.


It's an 8 team league.

And you can NEVER have enough running backs. I like to have a monopoly on them.

[specialkd24]

I play in a 14-team Yahoo league. There are 13 weeks in the regular season, so you play each team once ... we find this the ideal number to compete against, making it fair for everyone. If some teams have to play just a few teams twice, somebody may get a crappy opponent twice, while another squad may have to play the league's toughest team twice.

But we don't have very big rosters. QB, RB, WR, WR, TE, WR/RB, K and four bench spots (we use to only have 3, but it is a keeper league now). We don't want ANY hoarding of players. If you have to cut a superstar b/c he is on bye (or you have 2 players on bye in the same week), that is just part of it.

We also play individual defense (D, D, DB, DB, DL, DL) because, in my opinion, it is more fun than team defense. It takes a little more strategy and is a little more fair, b/c there are plenty of okay players to pick, while there aren't a lot of great team defenses to pick.

[SatelliteEyes]

the bench size of that league is way to big. I like to go with no more than 5 bench spots. That's usually a backup Qb, 2 back up RBs 2 back up WRs. You shouldnt need a back up defense, TE or kicker.

[specialkd24]

BN Vincent Jackson


Let me tell you, this guy is going to be awesome. I use to work at Northern Colorado and I saw him play in college. The school's CAREER record for TD receptions was 21 ... he had 22 in ONE season! 6'5, 241 but runs like he is a lot smaller. How do you guard that, especially when Antonio Gates is lining up on the same field and the team will also hand the ball off to LT at any time.

[BellybuttonKid]

the bench size of that league is way to big. I like to go with no more than 5 bench spots. That's usually a backup Qb, 2 back up RBs 2 back up WRs. You shouldnt need a back up defense, TE or kicker.


Cool. You make it sound like it's huge, while it's only one bigger than the default.

I think yours is too small. What about when you have bye weeks, you are screwed. But you can bash my fantasy league all you want. Props to you, and I hope it makes you feel good.

[SatelliteEyes]

I've been trying to do some of the ESPN free mock drafts, but they suck. First of all, you sign up and you draft within 2 minutes of signing up. the draft starts, and half the people that have signed up dont show, and its pretty much you vs. 9 computer dudes.

Then the dumb-fucking mock computer will draft you Peyton Manning, carson Palmer and Tom brady as your top 3 picks.

That being said, I picked 7th and came up with this team...

QB - Marc Bulger
Rb - Brian Westbrook
RB - Reggie Bush
RB/WR - Edgerrin James
WR - Randy Moss
WR - Santana Moss
TE - Jeremy Shockey
K - David Akers
D/ST - Bears

BN - Adrian Peterson
BN - Vincent jackson
BN - Calvin Johnson
BN - Jake Delhomme

[BellybuttonKid]

I've been trying to do some of the ESPN free mock drafts, but they suck. First of all, you sign up and you draft within 2 minutes of signing up. the draft starts, and half the people that have signed up dont show, and its pretty much you vs. 9 computer dudes.

Then the dumb-fucking mock computer will draft you Peyton Manning, carson Palmer and Tom brady as your top 3 picks.

That being said, I picked 7th and came up with this team...

QB - Marc Bulger
Rb - Brian Westbrook
RB - Reggie Bush
RB/WR - Edgerrin James
WR - Randy Moss
WR - Santana Moss
TE - Jeremy Shockey
K - David Akers
D/ST - Bears

BN - Adrian Peterson
BN - Vincent jackson
BN - Calvin Johnson
BN - Jake Delhomme

That would never happen.

[UNC41]

That would never happen.

Maybe that's why he refereed to it as a dumb-fucking mock computer. Just a thought.

[SatelliteEyes]

Cool. You make it sound like it's huge, while it's only one bigger than the default.

I think yours is too small. What about when you have bye weeks, you are screwed. But you can bash my fantasy league all you want. Props to you, and I hope it makes you feel good.

Holy passive-agressive. When did I bash your league? I just said I thought the Bench was too big. No real need to respond in that fashion.

As far as bench size goes, I just think it sucks when people can stash so many people on the bench. If I have 5 RBs and 4 WRs I should be able to fill 5 starting spots from week to week.

[Tiduwho]

Cool. You make it sound like it's huge, while it's only one bigger than the default.

I think yours is too small. What about when you have bye weeks, you are screwed. But you can bash my fantasy league all you want. Props to you, and I hope it makes you feel good.

It's called paying attention. That's why it tells you on the draft board what week their bye is.

If you have the choice between a bunch of wide receivers that are basically the same guy and stat lines, go with whatever one has different bye weeks.


As far as the running backs comment, that's why I said that's not even fair. It's retarded that you could have as many as 10 running backs. Say goodbye to the waiver wire, it takes out all of the fun of key pickups during the season. Everyone likes to play matchups with their RBs, but with that many it just makes the league dumb.

[UNC41]

I've got my keeper draft on the 26th and am not too optimistic right now. I'm keeping Ronnie Brown, Edge and either Fitzy or Brady... durr. It's going to take some great drafting for me to compete.

[BellybuttonKid]

It's called paying attention. That's why it tells you on the draft board what week their bye is.

If you have the choice between a bunch of wide receivers that are basically the same guy and stat lines, go with whatever one has different bye weeks.


As far as the running backs comment, that's why I said that's not even fair. It's retarded that you could have as many as 10 running backs. Say goodbye to the waiver wire, it takes out all of the fun of key pickups during the season. Everyone likes to play matchups with their RBs, but with that many it just makes the league dumb.

Most teams in the league don't have as many as I do. The league isn't dumb. But congratulations on being a child and insulting someone else's league...Give yourself a pat on the back. This league happens to be competitive and we all have a great time doing it. Just cause you don't think you'd like it doesnt mean you need to act like a child.

Plus, I have 5 RB for 3 slots and 5 WR for 4 slots. I play matchups with my RB and WR. Why is that unusual? Kevin Jones is probably on the PUP.


Also, what you said about the bye weeks, sometimes it's impossible to only draft a team according to bye week. You will probably end up with a weaker team if you go about it that way.


Just don't insult my league man, it makes you sound petty and dumb, and you don't even know me.

[BellybuttonKid]

Maybe that's why he refereed to it as a dumb-fucking mock computer. Just a thought.

Gracias for your insight mate. :rolleyes


I was being sarcastic in my comment man.

[UNC41]

Most teams in the league don't have as many as I do. The league isn't dumb. But congratulations on being a child and insulting someone else's league...Give yourself a pat on the back. This league happens to be competitive and we all have a great time doing it. Just cause you don't think you'd like it doesnt mean you need to act like a child.

Plus, I have 5 RB for 3 slots and 5 WR for 4 slots. I play matchups with my RB and WR. Why is that unusual? Kevin Jones is probably on the PUP.


Also, what you said about the bye weeks, sometimes it's impossible to only draft a team according to bye week. You will probably end up with a weaker team if you go about it that way.


Just don't insult my league man, it makes you sound petty and dumb, and you don't even know me.

For what it's worth, you're the one who sounds childish by being so defensive for something as meaningless as the format of a fantasy football league. What does it matter if people on a message board like the format of your league or not?

Also, the numbers in your post are off. You have 6 RBs and 5WRs for 2 RB, 3 WR and a flex slot. That's 11 players for six slots, not 10 for seven like you implied.

[BellybuttonKid]

For what it's worth, you're the one who sounds childish by being so defensive for something as meaningless as the format of a fantasy football league. What does it matter if people on a message board like the format of your league or not?

Also, the numbers in your post are off. You have 6 RBs and 5WRs for 2 RB, 3 WR and a flex slot. That's 11 players for six slots, not 10 for seven like you implied.


And I counted the Flex for either RB since WR since they both can be used there. So no, they weren't off.

I know I have 6 RB on my roster, but I said 5 since Kevin Jones won't be used.

So no, my numbers arent off.

I do have 4 possible slots for 5 WR

I do have 3 possible slots for 5 RB (Kevin Jones doesnt count)

Or another way to look at it is 10 players for 6 slots.

[BellybuttonKid]

For what it's worth, you're the one who sounds childish by being so defensive for something as meaningless as the format of a fantasy football league. What does it matter if people on a message board like the format of your league or not?

Also, the numbers in your post are off. You have 6 RBs and 5WRs for 2 RB, 3 WR and a flex slot. That's 11 players for six slots, not 10 for seven like you implied.

I never implied that.

[Tiduwho]

Most teams in the league don't have as many as I do. The league isn't dumb. But congratulations on being a child and insulting someone else's league...Give yourself a pat on the back. This league happens to be competitive and we all have a great time doing it. Just cause you don't think you'd like it doesnt mean you need to act like a child.

Plus, I have 5 RB for 3 slots and 5 WR for 4 slots. I play matchups with my RB and WR. Why is that unusual? Kevin Jones is probably on the PUP.


Also, what you said about the bye weeks, sometimes it's impossible to only draft a team according to bye week. You will probably end up with a weaker team if you go about it that way.


Just don't insult my league man, it makes you sound petty and dumb, and you don't even know me.

Talk about being reflexively defensive. It's a message board man, most things people say aren't personal.



Plus, I have 5 RB for 3 slots and 5 WR for 4 slots. I play matchups with my RB and WR. Why is that unusual? Kevin Jones is probably on the PUP.

Now, you see here, this comment really flies in the face of what you posted. If this were true, then why didn't you post it that way originally? In your post you have 3 WR slots, 2 RB slots, and 1 RB/WR slot aka "Standard". Hence my comment about being 7 bench spots.

And on top of that, you don't even know how many RBs you have. You have 7 RBs, not 5. That's 7 RBs for only 3 slots. And when anyone in the league can do that, it takes all of the fun out of pickups.

The fact of the matter is, no matter what, you are going to be leaving BIG points on the bench each and every week. Meanwhile, the guy that gets cursed with two guys on the DL, and another on bye week can't even pick up a starting player. Not even a bum.

[Tiduwho]

And I counted the Flex for either RB since WR since they both can be used there. So no, they weren't off.

I know I have 6 RB on my roster, but I said 5 since Kevin Jones won't be used.

So no, my numbers arent off.

I do have 4 possible slots for 5 WR

I do have 3 possible slots for 5 RB (Kevin Jones doesnt count)

Or another way to look at it is 10 players for 6 slots.

Which sucks for people later on in the season who won't get a chance to use him, because he's rotting on the bench not even being used.


QB Matt Leinart
WR Anquan Boldin
WR Hines Ward
WR Santana Moss
RB Edgerrin James
RB Joseph Addai
TE Antonio Gates
W/R Frank Gore
BN Philip Rivers
BN Vincent Jackson
BN D.J. Hackett
BN Cedric Benson
BN Marshawn Lynch
BN Tatum Bell
BN Kevin Jones



That's 7.

[BellybuttonKid]

Which sucks for people later on in the season who won't get a chance to use him, because he's rotting on the bench not even being used.




That's 7.


My fault, it is 7. When I said Jones won't be used I meant by the lions since he will probably be on PUP.

I never said I PERSONALLY will never use him.

And why is it my fault if another team doesnt have as good a team. Everyone has equal chance man. I sacrificed drafting a top flight QB (by that I mean drafting one early because I think Leinart will be great) to load up on RB.


Why am I being criticized so heavily for my fantasy league format? This is ridiculous.

[BellybuttonKid]

Which sucks for people later on in the season who won't get a chance to use him, because he's rotting on the bench not even being used.




That's 7.

That's there fault for not drafting a strong enough team..Not mine for having a strong team.

Thanks for trying to start something man.

[BellybuttonKid]

Anyway, moving on..


What fantasy defense would you prefer...Denver, Carolina, Dallas or Seattle?

[Tiduwho]

That's there fault for not drafting a strong enough team..Not mine for having a strong team.

Thanks for trying to start something man.

What in the world are you talking about? :confused


It's called constructrive criticism, and at that, only about the format. I even said you had a solid team. :ugh



And "stong team" does not equal tons of running backs. Because, guess what? You can't use all of them. You have 4 (3) RBs on the bench every week that you are losing points on, when you could have gotten better elsewhere with your team. Matchups don't always go according to plan and the guy you thought would have a good day and you had to get him in against "so and so's horrid defense" can have an average day while they guy you took out has 3 touchdowns and over 100 yards.

[BellybuttonKid]

Talk about being reflexively defensive. It's a message board man, most things people say aren't personal.





Now, you see here, this comment really flies in the face of what you posted. If this were true, then why didn't you post it that way originally? In your post you have 3 WR slots, 2 RB slots, and 1 RB/WR slot aka "Standard". Hence my comment about being 7 bench spots.

And on top of that, you don't even know how many RBs you have. You have 7 RBs, not 5. That's 7 RBs for only 3 slots. And when anyone in the league can do that, it takes all of the fun out of pickups.

The fact of the matter is, no matter what, you are going to be leaving BIG points on the bench each and every week. Meanwhile, the guy that gets cursed with two guys on the DL, and another on bye week can't even pick up a starting player. Not even a bum.


Not really. When Edge faces Baltimore I'll put in Benson. and vice versa. I play matchups. I know what I'm doing man. When a player has a good matchup, I put him in. I came in second the last two years and won the year before that. So that's a 1st place finish and 2 2nd place finishes in a year that has only had 3 years of existence. I know what I'm doing man.

[UNC41]

And I counted the Flex for either RB since WR since they both can be used there. So no, they weren't off.

I know I have 6 RB on my roster, but I said 5 since Kevin Jones won't be used.

So no, my numbers arent off.

I do have 4 possible slots for 5 WR

I do have 3 possible slots for 5 RB (Kevin Jones doesnt count)

Or another way to look at it is 10 players for 6 slots.

Yeah, our thoughts were off because you counted the flex for RB and WR rather than RB or WR, which is how it is. And I didn't count Kevin Jones or I would have said 7 RBs.

Don't get so defensive, man. So what if people disagree with the number of bench spots in your league. It's just a differing of opinions and doesn't matter one bit.

Finally, my one piece of advice would be to deal Boldin or Edge. You are relying too much on an Arizona offense that, while extremely talented, has a lot of question marks with a new coaching staff and weak offensive line.

[BellybuttonKid]

What in the world are you talking about? :confused


It's called constructrive criticism, and at that, only about the format. I even said you had a solid team. :ugh

I understand, but maybe I misread your tone.

The "thats 7" thing just seems like your looking to pick a fight. Just in the way you went about it. And you siad the league just sounds dumb. Whatever, I don't want to get in a debate with you about something that your opinion doesnt even matter about anyway.

[BellybuttonKid]

Yeah, our thoughts were off because you counted the flex for RB and WR rather than RB or WR, which is how it is. And I didn't count Kevin Jones or I would have said 7 RBs.

Don't get so defensive, man. So what if people disagree with the number of bench spots in your league. It's just a differing of opinions and doesn't matter one bit.

Finally, my one piece of advice would be to deal Boldin or Edge. You are relying too much on an Arizona offense that, while extremely talented, has a lot of question marks with a new coaching staff and weak offensive line.


I'm not dealing Boldin, but who would I potentially deal Edge for?

[BellybuttonKid]

What in the world are you talking about? :confused


It's called constructrive criticism, and at that, only about the format. I even said you had a solid team. :ugh



And "stong team" does not equal tons of running backs. Because, guess what? You can't use all of them. You have 4 (3) RBs on the bench every week that you are losing points on, when you could have gotten better elsewhere with your team. Matchups don't always go according to plan and the guy you thought would have a good day and you had to get him in against "so and so's horrid defense" can have an average day while they guy you took out has 3 touchdowns and over 100 yards.

What other positions should I try to strengthen then by dealing a RB?

[Tiduwho]

Anyway, moving on..


What fantasy defense would you prefer...Denver, Carolina, Dallas or Seattle?

Denver. Even with playing against San Diego twice, I think they should put up a lot of good games.

[UNC41]

I'm not dealing Boldin, but who would I potentially deal Edge for?

McGahee, T. Jones, Jacobs ... a player like that.

Or you could look to package someone Gore and Edge for Addai (who I'd rather have than Gore) and another back or depth at WR.

Or you could deal Edge and Lynch to someone with a very thin crop of RBs for someone like Ronnie Brown, MJD, Bush or Henry.

I have no idea why Boldin is untouchable, but if that's how you want to roll then that's how you're gonna roll.

[Tiduwho]

What other positions should I try to strengthen then by dealing a RB?

That's why I was only arguing about the format man. You have the best TE in the league, the best kicker, pretty solid receivers, and two young QBs with potential. I expect alot more out of Rivers this year than Leinart though. The Cards O-Line is still...bad. On that same note, I would probably look to trade Edge (who still can bring in some good value) for a good receiver.

[BellybuttonKid]

McGahee, T. Jones, Jacobs ... a player like that.

Or you could look to package someone Gore and Edge for Addai (who I'd rather have than Gore) and another back or depth at WR.

Or you could deal Edge and Lynch to someone with a very thin crop of RBs for someone like Ronnie Brown, MJD, Bush or Henry.

I have no idea why Boldin is untouchable, but if that's how you want to roll then that's how you're gonna roll.

I already have Addai....


And it's not that Boldin is untouchable, I just like having a reciever that goes with my QB. Weird, I know.

And we are in a keeper league, and I expect HUGE things from Lynch...

[UNC41]

I already have Addai....


And it's not that Boldin is untouchable, I just like having a reciever that goes with my QB. Weird, I know.

And we are in a keeper league, and I expect HUGE things from Lynch...

Haha, my bad on Addai.

If you want to keep Edge, go for it I'd just be weary of relying so much on one offense, especially one with question marks. If it were Manning/Marvin/Addai, Palmer/Johnson/Johnson or a couple of different sets it'd be a different story.

I like Lynch, but don't expect a guy running behind Buffalo's line to put up big time numbers anytime soon. If I wanted a back from this year's rookie class for a keeper it'd easily be AP. He should be getting a majority of the carries next year and should put up huge numbers running left behind McKinnie, Hutch and Birk.

[dmbmuskie]

Anyway, moving on..


What fantasy defense would you prefer...Denver, Carolina, Dallas or Seattle?

Dallas

They are going to put up some serious sacks this season.

[BellybuttonKid]

Dallas

They are going to put up some serious sacks this season.


How sure are you on that? Cause I was thinking about dropping Denver for Dallas too, but couldnt pull the trigger. If you can convince me, then I'm going to do it.

:)

[dmbmuskie]

How sure are you on that? Cause I was thinking about dropping Denver for Dallas too, but couldnt pull the trigger. If you can convince me, then I'm going to do it.

:)

It depends on the scoring rules for your league. We really need universal rules.

[BellybuttonKid]

It depends on the scoring rules for your league. We really need universal rules.

Sacks, INT, points allowed, etc. pretty much the default except...


We don't count special teams...

[specialkd24]

I've been trying to do some of the ESPN free mock drafts, but they suck.

Yahoo man. Yahoo Fantasy Sports are where it is at and it is 100 times better than ESPN.

[dmbmuskie]

Sacks, INT, points allowed, etc. pretty much the default except...


We don't count special teams...

I'd go with Dallas.

[SatelliteEyes]

Yahoo man. Yahoo Fantasy Sports are where it is at and it is 100 times better than ESPN.

Do they have "mock drafts"??

All of my leagues are through Yahoo, but I can only find a mock draft on ESPN.

[seekupig]

good news.... :multi


Johnson and the Chiefs could agree to a deal sometime this week, the Kansas City Star reports.

Spin:The report states that Johnson could be in uniform for the Chiefs' third preseason game, August 23 against the Saints. One source even indicated that Johnson could be at Arrowhead Stadium on Thursday for Kansas City's game against Miami. However, while the situation looks much better than it did a week ago, the man who will ultimately be shelling out the money to Johnson remains skeptical. "I'm cautiously optimistic a deal will get concluded, but exactly when I can't tell you," said Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson. "Are we real close? Not from where I sit." Despite Peterson's comments, those who have drafted or are planning to draft Johnson in fantasy drafts can start breathing a little bit easier.


RotoWire | Mon, August 13

[lennon2324]

i'm not a hige mock draft fan but i was thinking about doing one today since i have a nine pick out of twelve and i'm a little upset about it...anyone know a site that i can do it through??

[K3nTaKa0s]

SportingNews used to do mock drafts, but I don't know if they do that anymore.

[lennon2324]

i actually found one.... mockdraftcentral.com....i enjoyed it...gonna do a few more through them

[lennon2324]

is there an ants league or did i miss out on that?

[BellybuttonKid]

what are everyones top 8 defenses for this year?

please rank them...

[bothedmbfan]

I've been offered Shaun Alexander and Ben Rothlisberger for Steven Jackson and JP Lohsman.

My team looks like this:

QB: Jon Kitna
RB1: LT
RB2: Steven Jackson
WR1: Andre Johnson
WR2: Randy Moss
WR3: Jericho Cotchery
TE: Chris Cooley
K: Josh Scobee
D/ST: Bolts
BE: Lohsman
BE: DeShaun Foster
BE: Garret Wolfe
BE: Greg Olson
BE: Raiders D/ST

[dmbmuskie]

I've been offered Shaun Alexander and Ben Rothlisberger for Steven Jackson and JP Lohsman.

My team looks like this:

QB: Jon Kitna
RB1: LT
RB2: Steven Jackson
WR1: Andre Johnson
WR2: Randy Moss
WR3: Jericho Cotchery
TE: Chris Cooley
K: Josh Scobee
D/ST: Bolts
BE: Lohsman
BE: DeShaun Foster
BE: Garret Wolfe
BE: Greg Olson
BE: Raiders D/ST

Don't do it. You have 2 of the top 3 fantasy players.

I'd be checking the waiver wire for Michael Turner or Brian Leonard, so you have some insurance. Garret Wolfe isn't going to do you much good.

How the hell did you get those 2?:lol

[SatelliteEyes]

1. Is that a keeper league?

2. How many teams are in the league?

3. Did you have the first two picks in the draft, or what?

[UNC41]

Bo - No way do you make that trade. No way. Also, drop Garret Wolfe ASAP and add some more running back depth to your roster.

I've got a couple things I'd like opinions on myself ...

1. The deadline for naming our keepers in my biggest league is Sunday. I'm keeping Ronnie Brown, Edge and either Fitzy or Tom Brady. I'm heavily leaning toward Fitzy, and am just curious on what others would do. Any reply by Katie to this question will be ignored.

2. When would you guys target Michael Turner in a keeper draft. I really want to get him and be able to keep him for next year when he hits the free agent market.

[dmbmuskie]

Bo - No way do you make that trade. No way. Also, drop Garret Wolfe ASAP and add some more running back depth to your roster.

I've got a couple things I'd like opinions on myself ...

1. The deadline for naming our keepers in my biggest league is Sunday. I'm keeping Ronnie Brown, Edge and either Fitzy or Tom Brady. I'm heavily leaning toward Fitzy, and am just curious on what others would do. Any reply by Katie to this question will be ignored.

2. When would you guys target Michael Turner in a keeper draft. I really want to get him and be able to keep him for next year when he hits the free agent market.

I'd keep Brady. You know exactly what you are getting out of him. I think WR are a dime a dozen, and if Leinart doens't work out Fitz will suffer. I'd also question keeping Edge, but I'd have to look into it a little more before I made a decision.

I'd stay away from Turner unless I had LT. We all think he could carry the load, but we don't really know.

[SatelliteEyes]

Ditto on keeping Brady. The QB talent drops off a lot after him and Bulger. I wouldnt risk it. Like said above, WRs like Fitz are much easier to come by.

[bothedmbfan]

Don't do it. You have 2 of the top 3 fantasy players.

I'd be checking the waiver wire for Michael Turner or Brian Leonard, so you have some insurance. Garret Wolfe isn't going to do you much good.

How the hell did you get those 2?:lol

Most of the peeps in the leauge know their shit; but we took on this new guy who lucked into LT...and I ripped him off wholesale.

[dmbmuskie]

Most of the peeps in the leauge know their shit; but we took on this new guy who lucked into LT...and I ripped him off wholesale.

Did you buy him off?

Seriously, you need to get Turner or Leonard, and you are all set.

I really believe that once you get past Manning and Brady QB is a big crap shoot. Kitna could put up big numbers, or he could suck. The same goes for Ben and Losman.

[SatelliteEyes]

Dont the other owners in the league have veto power? What did you give up to get LT?

Nothing like having one dipshit in the league to ruin the integrity for everyone else.

[dmbmuskie]

Dont the other owners in the league have veto power? What did you give up to get LT?

Nothing like having one dipshit in the league to ruin the integrity for everyone else.

I'd trade Manning or Brady for LT, and that's it. I think having a consistent QB is far more important than a stud RB, but I got bit in the ass by some bad QBs back in the day. I've never got around that.

[bothedmbfan]

Did you buy him off?

Seriously, you need to get Turner or Leonard, and you are all set.

I really believe that once you get past Manning and Brady QB is a big crap shoot. Kitna could put up big numbers, or he could suck. The same goes for Ben and Losman.

I REALLY like Kitna's targets and that Martz is running his offense.

And here was the trade:

I gave up Matt Leinart, Reggie Wayne, and Antonio Gates for LT, Randy Moss, Andre Johnson, and Chris Cooley.

[dmbmuskie]

I REALLY like Kitna's targets and that Martz is running his offense.

And here was the trade:

I gave up Matt Leinart, Reggie Wayne, and Antonio Gates for LT, Randy Moss, Andre Johnson, and Chris Cooley.

I cannot believe that flew. The person on the other end of that trade might have ended up dead in my fantasy league.

The one year I won, I traded Drew Bledsoe for Marshall Faulk, and you would have thought the world was ending, despite the fact that the trade made some sense for both sides.

[bothedmbfan]

I cannot believe that flew. The person on the other end of that trade might have ended up dead in my fantasy league.

The one year I won, I traded Drew Bledsoe for Marshall Faulk, and you would have thought the world was ending, despite the fact that the trade made some sense for both sides.

When was this?

[dmbmuskie]

When was this?

I was a jr in college, so I think it was 2003. Faulk was banged up, and Bledsoe was putting up some good numbers, while sitting behing Rich Gannon for me. I would have won without the trade, but people were not happy.

I had Gannon and Alexander who were the top player at their position when the season ended.

[UNC41]

If the guy Bo traded he'd be outlawed from fantasy sports, and possiblily all contact, from my group of friends.

[bothedmbfan]

Nice.

[dmbmuskie]

If the guy Bo traded he'd be outlawed from fantasy sports, and possiblily all contact, from my group of friends.

Seriously, dumb fantasy trades and playing with a mobile QB on Madden are the quickest way to piss off my friends.

[SatelliteEyes]

I REALLY like Kitna's targets and that Martz is running his offense.

And here was the trade:

I gave up Matt Leinart, Reggie Wayne, and Antonio Gates for LT, Randy Moss, Andre Johnson, and Chris Cooley.

Holy shit. That's the biggest fleecing this side of the Herschal Walker deal. If that happened in my league it would have been vetoed and the owner probably would have been asked back next year.

[bothedmbfan]

I gave up Caddy Williams too; I forgot.

[UNC41]

Seriously, dumb fantasy trades and playing with a mobile QB on Madden are the quickest way to piss off my friends.

That's pretty much the same thing with my friends.

[lennon2324]

so i have done some mock drafts with my 9 pick out of 12....no keepers...and i've been coming up with willie parker and jones-drew 1,2....how does that look for you guys?

[dmbmuskie]

so i have done some mock drafts with my 9 pick out of 12....no keepers...and i've been coming up with willie parker and jones-drew 1,2....how does that look for you guys?

Who's going ahead of those guys?

You couldn't pay me to take Jones-Drew in the first round.

[lennon2324]

jones-drew would have been number two...but really?? i figured he would have a good year....here's who i could have taken instead of jones-drew...tell me who you think is a better pick...NOTE:i need to go RB, RB 1-2....my league is very score heavy with RB's so i need two off the bat and then i'll go QB WR next time around


Thomas Jones
Edge
Ronnie Brown
Clinton Portis


what do you think?

[lennon2324]

also

marion barber
jacobs
cadillac
and cedric benson

my b

[SatelliteEyes]

I think taking MJD with the 12th pick is too early. I too am going to have the 9th pick in my league. With the 9th pick I am targeting Brian Westbrook, Rudi Johnson or Willie Parker. With the 12th I keep coming up with Reggie Bush, Ronnie Brown or Willis McGahee, or Maroney.

[lennon2324]

man your lucky...rudi and westbrook have been gone by the time my first pick comes...and then 10,11,12 have scooped up bush, mcgahee, and maroney...how come no one likes MJD as a 16??

and whats the deal with warrick dunn??

[dmbmuskie]

I'd take Parker. He's just so damn inconsistent. One week, he's going to give you the high point total for the week, then the next week he'll be worthless. I've never had Westbrook, but he seems like he would be the same type of player.

My feeling on Jones-Drew is that he was a bit of a fluke. I don't think he'll ever score 16 times in a season again.

The key to winning is finding big points from unlikely sources. I really think Jamal Lewis or Ahman Green could have a big season. There isn't the obvious sleeper this year, like Frank Gore was last year.

I really feel like the popularity of fantasy football has made it less fun. People are all working off the same thinking, rather than trying something new.

[lennon2324]

i agree with you on parker...but i have had him both years he's been out and he really has helped my teams at some points...and he seems like the obvious pick for me to take at 9...i might be able to steal peyton on the way back but if he is gone i'm just have have to take a shot with another RB and hope he turns to gold

[SatelliteEyes]

man your lucky...rudi and westbrook have been gone by the time my first pick comes...and then 10,11,12 have scooped up bush, mcgahee, and maroney...how come no one likes MJD as a 16??

and whats the deal with warrick dunn??

If you are picking 9, Rudi and Westbrook are gone at 9, then that means that Peyton Manning or Frank Gore or Joseph Addai have fallen. You should pick Addai or Gore for sure, consider Manning.

Ive always said Show me a guy who drafts Manning in the first and I'll show you a guy who isnt winning his fantasy football league. That said, at 9 or 10, his value may be too great to pass up. If Manning is there at 9, I probably take him, against my own belief, let the guy picking 10th and 11th to take Willie Parker and Lawrence Maroney and then nab Bush if you are in a PPR league, McGahee if not.

Warrick Dunn = over 30, small, ready to break down and will probably lose his job to Jerious Norwood by about week 5.

[SatelliteEyes]

RB Sleepers for me = Jamal Lewis, Lendale White, Julius Jones and Ladell Betts.

You should be able to get those guy in round 4-8.

[lennon2324]

good advice....i will def. consider it

[lennon2324]

why julius jones all of a sudden???? i just don't get how he could be such a bust this year and such a huge sleeper this year

[SatelliteEyes]

Between your pick at 12 and your pick at 29 I would expect a lot of WRs and QBs to come off the board. In a lot of mocks I have done I am able to nab Edgerrin James at 29, Thomas Jones or Cedric Benson. Then coming back, someone like Antontio Gates or Roy Williams. You could do a lot worse with a top 4 of:

Manning
McGahee
Edge
Roy Williams.

[SatelliteEyes]

why julius jones all of a sudden???? i just don't get how he could be such a bust this year and such a huge sleeper this year

Parcells loved Barber. The new OC and head coach like Jones more as an everydown back. Barber was the 3rd down guy and goalline back. Word out of Dallas is that Jones might look to get those touches. On my board he is more valuable than Barber this year.

[dmbmuskie]

i agree with you on parker...but i have had him both years he's been out and he really has helped my teams at some points...and he seems like the obvious pick for me to take at 9...i might be able to steal peyton on the way back but if he is gone i'm just have have to take a shot with another RB and hope he turns to gold

I'd take Manning or Brady over Parker. You can find RBs, but very rarely can you find a QB, you can trust.

[lennon2324]

wow...thats amazing...i though barber had the job for sure

[lennon2324]

I'd take Manning or Brady over Parker. You can find RBs, but very rarely can you find a QB, you can trust.



wow i was set on going RB RB...but now i think if peyton is for some reason available i'm def. gonna take him first and RB second and then try to find some good sleepers

[SatelliteEyes]

wow...thats amazing...i though barber had the job for sure

My advice would be to avoid Barber in the 3rd or 4th, let someone else take him, then maybe steal Jones in the 6th or 7th.

[lennon2324]

yeah that might be a good idea

[UNC41]

Is it a points per reception league? If so, I'd take Bush with the 9th pick and try and land McGahee at 12.

[lennon2324]

no it isn't actually....so that doesn't really matter all too much

[dmbmuskie]

wow i was set on going RB RB...but now i think if peyton is for some reason available i'm def. gonna take him first and RB second and then try to find some good sleepers

I'd probably take him first overall, if I had the opporunity. I think the addidition of Gonzales is going to lead to him having a huge season similar to 2004.

[Mickey Carson]

Just finished a draft for one of my paid leagues...8 teams, 16 rounds:

QB--Tony Romo
QB--J.P. Losman
RB--LaDainian Tomlinson
RB--Edgerrin James
RB--Willis McGahee
RB--Marshawn Lynch
RB--Michael Turner
WR--Donald Driver
WR--Laveranues Coles
WR--Darrell Jackson
WR--Joey Galloway
WR--Reggie Brown
TE--Dallas Clark
TE--Eric Johnson
K--Jeff Wilkins
Def--Dallas Cowboys

Pretty happy with how things went.

[seekupig]

I'd take Manning or Brady over Parker. You can find RBs, but very rarely can you find a QB, you can trust.

i'd agree if it's a league that you only start 2 RB's. if it's a league that you have to start 3, i'd definately wait on the QB. there's a big dropoff in RB talent after the second round usually...

[UNC41]

Just looked the rosters from my last year my keeper league and I think it's clear which teams are the ones to beat before we even draft ...

Team 1 - S. Jackson, L. Johnson, Addai
Team 2 - Alexander, R. Johnson, Maroney
Team 3 - Westbrook, Parker, Jones-Drew

I think I'm also going probably keep Brady over Fitzy now that I look at the rosters. Manning, Palmer and Bulger will all be kept for sure, and locking down a top QB will be big.

[devilandthelord]

We randomly selected the order of our picks, and guess who got first? That's right, me baby, meeeee.
For once I got lucky in one of these things, and of course I picked LT.
Now I just have to pray to God that he doesn't get injured.

[dmbmuskie]

We randomly selected the order of our picks, and guess who got first? That's right, me baby, meeeee.
For once I got lucky in one of these things, and of course I picked LT.
Now I just have to pray to God that he doesn't get injured.

Please tell me you got Turner as well.

[SatelliteEyes]

Just had my draft for my league at work. I had the 9th pick in a 10 team league.

QB - Jay Cutler (Round 9)
RB - Willie Parker (Round 1)
RB - Reggie Bush (Round 2)
RB/WR - Brandon Jacobs (Round 4)
WR - Lee Evans (Round 5)
WR - Reggie Brown (Round 7)
TE - Antonio Gates (Round 3)
D/ST - Baltimore Ravens (Round 8)
K - David Akers (Round 14)

Bench

RB - Cadillac Williams (Round 6)
RB - Brandon Jackson (Round 10)
WR - Santonio Holmes (Round 11)
WR - Matt Jones (Round 12)
WR - Brandon Marshall (Round 13)

[firedancerchick]

well i'm a newbie and it's my first time doing ff, so i have some questions...if anyone is willing to answer that would be great!

my draft is tomorrow and i have 10 people in my league, all 9 of them were in the league last year so they got to keep 5 players. i've been doing some research and it looks like they've picked the best people, of course, hah. now, i have to pick 5 before the draft tomorrow. here's what i am thinking so far (i get 17 in all, the cap is 61 mil)

edgerrin james $6.95
drew brees $9.04
anquan boldin $6.6

anyone have any suggestions of what i should do....or not do? much appreciated!

:)

[groton]

Just Finished My Draft with the guys I play vs
8 Teams 15 Rounds I had the Magic Last Pick :)
1. (8) Rudi Johnson RB
2. (9) Laurence Maroney RB
3. (24) Tom Brady QB
4. (25) Reggie Wayne WR
5. (40) Hines Ward WR
6. (41) Chicago DEF
7. (56) Darrell Jackson WR
8. (57) Jason Witten TE
9. (72) Edgerrin James RB
10. (73) Jon Kitna QB
11. (88) Kevin Curtis WR
12. (89) D.J. Hackett WR
13. (104) Terry Glenn WR
14. (105) Neil Rackers K
15. (120) Marion Barber III RB

[firedancerchick]

ok question to you pros out there...

i have to put 5 players in before the draft today (9 other people that have played previously in my leauge have already chosen their five holds each) with what is left i was thinking:

edge james, mcallister, marion barber, brees and boldin

or

edge james, calvin johnson, brees, boldin, lynch

any thoughts? good, bad, any help!? :) thanks!

oh, got a cap of 61 mil too!

[FightingDong]

anyone else's draft on espn freeze?

[specialkd24]

My whole thing with RB's this year, is I'm NOT going to take ANYBODY that is in a 2-RB situation (i.e. Cowboys, Jags, etc.). That screwed me with Jones last year ... he did all the work and Barber reaped all the benefits.

My first pick is going to be somebody that is THE back in their system.

[herzag17]

just finished my draft for work. 1st pick in 14 team league (i know, 14 teams is too much)...RBs went like crazy. In the order i drafted.

LT
Norwood
TO
Fred Taylor
Cal Johnson
Vernon Davis
Berrian
Big Ben
Denver D
N. Rackers
Alex Smith
Jacoby Jones
Jason Campbell

[devilandthelord]

So if I have LT, its a good bet to have Michael Turner, right?

Here are my running backs currently, LT, Maurice Jones-Drew, Chester Taylor, Adrian Peterson, and Marshawn Lynch.
I believe is still available, so I'm thinking of dropping Lynch and picking him up.
Good idea?
That way I would 2 sets of running backs from 2 different teams as good back up plans. If God forbid, LT should get injured Turner will be the man. And as the year goes by, Peterson could win the job from Taylor if things go his way.

[jrh83]

Just got a trade off and Need advice.

The Offer was Rudi Johnson(my plyer) for Marvin Harrision(his player).

The League is like this

QB
Rb
RB/WR
WR
WR
TE
D/ST

My other RB are S. Alexander, J. Jones and M. Pittman and r Droughns
My other WR are R. Williams, V. Jackson, J. Horn and Cal. Johnson

[devilandthelord]

Just got a trade off and Need advice.

The Offer was Rudi Johnson(my plyer) for Marvin Harrision(his player).

The League is like this

QB
Rb
RB/WR
WR
WR
TE
D/ST

My other RB are S. Alexander, J. Jones and M. Pittman and r Droughns
My other WR are R. Williams, V. Jackson, J. Horn and Cal. Johnson

Hmm, I don't think I'd take that. Rudi Johnson is only 27, had over 1300 yards and 12 TDs last year. And I think he will benefit from Carson Palmer being even better than he's ever been before.
Marvin Harrison, while one of the all-time greats is 35. And I know he's in great shape, and I don't expect him to drop off much. But, I do expect his numbers to drop slightly, and Reggie Wayne to be featured more than ever and take over the role of the true #1 receiver on that team.
If I were you I would start Alexander and Johnson as your RBs, which should bring you a lot of points, and Williams and either Jackson or Johnson as your WRs.
That should bring you plenty of points, IMO.
Don't mess with what you got right now.

[UNC41]

So if I have LT, its a good bet to have Michael Turner, right?

Here are my running backs currently, LT, Maurice Jones-Drew, Chester Taylor, Adrian Peterson, and Marshawn Lynch.
I believe is still available, so I'm thinking of dropping Lynch and picking him up.
Good idea?
That way I would 2 sets of running backs from 2 different teams as good back up plans. If God forbid, LT should get injured Turner will be the man. And as the year goes by, Peterson could win the job from Taylor if things go his way.

No way should you drop Lynch. LT has missed one game in six years. It's not a lock that he'll stay healthy, and handcuffing him is a good idea, but DO NOT drop Lynch.

Just got a trade off and Need advice.

The Offer was Rudi Johnson(my plyer) for Marvin Harrision(his player).

The League is like this

QB
Rb
RB/WR
WR
WR
TE
D/ST

My other RB are S. Alexander, J. Jones and M. Pittman and r Droughns
My other WR are R. Williams, V. Jackson, J. Horn and Cal. Johnson

No way. I would try and trade Roy or Calvin though, just because I don't like on having two receivers on the same team. And uhh, what's Michael Pittman doing on a fantasy roster?

Championshiiiiiiiiip.

[devilandthelord]

No way should you drop Lynch. LT has missed one game in six years. It's not a lock that he'll stay healthy, and handcuffing him is a good idea, but DO NOT drop Lynch.


Seriously? :( He hasn't been impressive in the preseason and there are doubts as to how he'll work out as a pro. Nobody was taking him in my draft, so I picked him up late, for his potential. But not really expecting anything out of him.
Turner should get some more carries this year regardless of whether LT is hurt or not, right?
Do you think it's possible Turner could have a better year than Lynch without LT going down?

I'm asking all this because I already did it, and Lynch has already been picked up by somebody else. Looking for some kind of justification. :lol

[BellybuttonKid]

Just Finished My Draft with the guys I play vs
8 Teams 15 Rounds I had the Magic Last Pick :)
1. (8) Rudi Johnson RB
2. (9) Laurence Maroney RB
3. (24) Tom Brady QB
4. (25) Reggie Wayne WR
5. (40) Hines Ward WR
6. (41) Chicago DEF
7. (56) Darrell Jackson WR
8. (57) Jason Witten TE
9. (72) Edgerrin James RB
10. (73) Jon Kitna QB
11. (88) Kevin Curtis WR
12. (89) D.J. Hackett WR
13. (104) Terry Glenn WR
14. (105) Neil Rackers K
15. (120) Marion Barber III RB

Wayne in the 4th, Edge in the 9th, Barber in the 15? You are playing with a bunch of idiots.

Good team...

[BellybuttonKid]

Seriously? :( He hasn't been impressive in the preseason and there are doubts as to how he'll work out as a pro. Nobody was taking him in my draft, so I picked him up late, for his potential. But not really expecting anything out of him.
Turner should get some more carries this year regardless of whether LT is hurt or not, right?
Do you think it's possible Turner could have a better year than Lynch without LT going down?

I'm asking all this because I already did it, and Lynch has already been picked up by somebody else. Looking for some kind of justification. :lol

Big mistake...

[UNC41]

Seriously? :( He hasn't been impressive in the preseason and there are doubts as to how he'll work out as a pro. Nobody was taking him in my draft, so I picked him up late, for his potential. But not really expecting anything out of him.
Turner should get some more carries this year regardless of whether LT is hurt or not, right?
Do you think it's possible Turner could have a better year than Lynch without LT going down?

I'm asking all this because I already did it, and Lynch has already been picked up by somebody else. Looking for some kind of justification. :lol

Horrible move. I don't think 16 carries with a reworked offensive line that is still learning how to work together gives you an accurate prediction of Lynch's potential. No justification at all on this one. Sorry. :monkey

[devilandthelord]

Oh well.
Right now my team looks like this:

QB- Marc Bulger
RB- LaDainian Tomlinson
RB- Maurice Jones-Drew
RB/WR- Chester Taylor (for now)
WR- Reggie Wayne
WR- Donald Driver (glad he's gonna be ok)
TE- Kellen Winslow
D/ST- Chargers
K- Jeff Wilkins

Bench:
WR- Donte Stallworth
RB- Adrian Peterson (maybe moved up to start, depending how he does)
TE- Ben Watson
QB- J.P. Losman
WR- Bernard Berrian
QB- Alex Smith
RB- Michael Turner

I think I'll still do pretty well.

[devilandthelord]

Horrible move. I don't think 16 carries with a reworked offensive line that is still learning how to work together gives you an accurate prediction of Lynch's potential. No justification at all on this one. Sorry. :monkey

True. I was looking on ESPN at their depth chart as well. He has no competition for the job, so he'll probably get most of the carries. No offense, A-Train.
Oh well, hopefully I won't need him.

[UNC41]

Oh well.
Right now my team looks like this:

QB- Marc Bulger
RB- LaDainian Tomlinson
RB- Maurice Jones-Drew
RB/WR- Chester Taylor (for now)
WR- Reggie Wayne
WR- Donald Driver (glad he's gonna be ok)
TE- Kellen Winslow
D/ST- Chargers
K- Jeff Wilkins

Bench:
WR- Donte Stallworth
RB- Adrian Peterson (maybe moved up to start, depending how he does)
TE- Ben Watson
QB- J.P. Losman
WR- Bernard Berrian
QB- Alex Smith
RB- Michael Turner

I think I'll still do pretty well.

Picking up Turner was a good move, but you dropped the wrong Bill.

[devilandthelord]

Picking up Turner was a good move, but you dropped the wrong Bill.

Losman? Yeah I debate dropping him on a daily basis.
Rothlesberger is available still. It's just that my hate for the Steelers is messing with my judgement and delaying me on taking him even though I know he will probably do better.

[UNC41]

Losman? Yeah I debate dropping him on a daily basis.
Rothlesberger is available still. It's just that my hate for the Steelers is messing with my judgement and delaying me on taking him even though I know he will probably do better.

I just don't see any point in having three quarterbacks on your roster when you only start one.

[devilandthelord]

I just don't see any point in having three quarterbacks on your roster when you only start one.

Also a good point. Man, you're like my fantasy football coach. I've never played fantasy football before so its new to me.
I dropped Losman, and picked up Roethlisberger (begrudgingly), dropped Alex Smith and and picked up DeAngelo Williams.

[FightingDong]

RB: Steven Jackson, Cedric Benson
WR: Steve Smith, Donald Driver, Andre Johnson
QB: Favre, Schaub
TE: Cooley
D: NE

Bench: Cadillac, Droughns
Chris Chambers
Trent Green, Schaub

[Tiduwho]

RB: Steven Jackson, Cedric Benson
WR: Steve Smith, Donald Driver, Andre Johnson
QB: Favre, Schaub
TE: Cooley
D: NE

Bench: Cadillac, Droughns
Chris Chambers
Trent Green, Schaub

Very solid squad, good everywhere except I'd say you just need a reliable QB. Who knows what Favre, Schaub, or Green will get you.

On an offnote, are you the one that started that thread the other day? Lol, that'd be a heck of a coincidence to have all three of those guys if not.

Like was said before, I'd drop a QB and just look for a WR that could have a breakout year.

[seekupig]

10 man league, here's my team... (it's a keeper league. i traded away Larry Johnson before the draft, and got McNabb and Wayne in return. with that, i gained his #1, and gave up my #5 and #7 picks....)

probable week #1 starters are bolded.....

QB - Donovan McNabb
QB - JP Losman
RB - Brian Westbrook
RB - Marion Barber III
RB - Lamont Jordan
RB - Adrian Peterson (Min)
RB - Michael Bennett
WR - Reggie Wayne
WR - Tory Holt
WR - TJ Houshmanilla
WR - Dante Hall
K - Josh Brown
K - Jason Elam
D/ST - Dallas
D/ST - Denver

[BellybuttonKid]

Also a good point. Man, you're like my fantasy football coach. I've never played fantasy football before so its new to me.
I dropped Losman, and picked up Roethlisberger (begrudgingly), dropped Alex Smith and and picked up DeAngelo Williams.


How in the WORLD was DeAngelo Williams a FA? Like I said, it looks like you are playing in a not so competitive league...

[BellybuttonKid]

10 man league, here's my team... (it's a keeper league. i traded away Larry Johnson before the draft, and got McNabb and Wayne in return. with that, i gained his #1, and gave up my #5 and #7 picks....)

probable week #1 starters are bolded.....

QB - Donovan McNabb
QB - JP Losman
RB - Brian Westbrook
RB - Marion Barber III
RB - Lamont Jordan
RB - Adrian Peterson (Min)
RB - Michael Bennett
WR - Reggie Wayne
WR - Tory Holt
WR - TJ Houshmanilla
WR - Dante Hall
K - Josh Brown
K - Jason Elam
D/ST - Dallas
D/ST - Denver


Solid team.

Except Dante Hall is pretty much worthless, and I never understood the point in having 2 kickers and 2 defenses...Defenses I can maybe understand if you don't have an elite one and want to play matchups, but not kickers...

[seekupig]

Solid team.

Except Dante Hall is pretty much worthless, and I never understood the point in having 2 kickers and 2 defenses...Defenses I can maybe understand if you don't have an elite one and want to play matchups, but not kickers...

i picked up Dante Hall in the second to last round... kind of a shout out to one of my favorite Chiefs in recent years that isn't around anymore....

the second kicker was taken just to get the draft over with. i've got a solid enough starting team to get me through the first few weeks, and i'll just hit the waiver wire after week one and drop one of my kickers.

i don't like either one of my defenses enough to play every week, but there schedules work out nicely together as far as matchups go....

[lennon2324]

ok 12 man league...i had the 9 pick...6 pts for all TD's---1 for 25 passing and 10 rushing/receiving...and defense somewhat heavier than a normal league...and no points for individual returns for TD's


1- Parker
2- Benson
3- Bulger
4- Andre Johnson
5- Branch
6- Cooley
7- Galloway
8- Norwood
9- Broncos
10- Kaeding
11- Muhammed
12- Losman
13- Buckhalter (pretty much to screw westbrook owner should he get hurt)
14- Kennison
15- Matt Jones


start 1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 TE 1 FLEX 1 K 1 DEF


thoughts??? comments???? critics??

[Tiduwho]

ok 12 man league...i had the 9 pick...6 pts for all TD's---1 for 25 passing and 10 rushing/receiving...and defense somewhat heavier than a normal league...and no points for individual returns for TD's


1- Parker
2- Benson
3- Bulger
4- Andre Johnson
5- Branch
6- Cooley
7- Galloway
8- Norwood
9- Broncos
10- Kaeding
11- Muhammed
12- Losman
13- Buckhalter (pretty much to screw westbrook owner should he get hurt)
14- Kennison
15- Matt Jones


start 1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 TE 1 FLEX 1 K 1 DEF


thoughts??? comments???? critics??

Well, I like your backs, I think Norwood might take over the starting job from Dunn and he's got a lot of potential. But I'd be pretty worried about your receiving situation after AJ.

Hass has a lot of guys to throw it to in SEA taking away some of Branch's looks. Galloway is 50 years old. Moose is getting old and most looks will go to Berrian/Bradley/TE in Chicago. Kennison is 80. But I really like Matt Jones, especially with the last pick? How did that happen? I think he could make some strides this year, as long as Garrard knows what he's doing.

[SmoothD41]

I am really pumped about this team, 12 team league:

Tony Romo
Terrell Owens
Javon Walker
Reggie Brown
Ladainian Tomlinson
Laurence Maroney
Alge Crumpler

Bench: Tatum Bell, DJ Hackett, Warrick Dunn, ALex Smith, Marty Booker, Brandon Jones

K: Stephen Gostkowski
DEF: Jacksonville

D: Shawne Merriman
D: Adalius Thomas

[Tiduwho]

Bleh...hmm. I don't feel as bad about my team as I usually do. Our league this year is kinda weird, a bunch of flex positions. 10 teams, I had the 4th pick, here's where I'm at:


QB - McNabb
RB - Gore
RB/WR - Benson
RB/WR - Cadillac Williams
WR - Roy Williams
WR - Randy Moss
WR/TE - Crumpler
D/ST - Ravens
K - Shayne Graham

Bench
QB - Rex Grossman
RB - Tatum Bell
RB - Adrian Peterson
RB - Morency
WR - Matt Jones
WR - Santonio Holmes
WR - Michael Clayton
TE - D. Graham


My QB's are high risk, high reward. I kept putting off getting a TE until the next round, and then a big run came on taking Vernon Davis and Kellen Winslow (who I really thought would last one more swing around), so had to settle with Vick-less Crump. The RB's just went by so quick, hard to even get starting bums. I just hope all 3 of my injury worriesome RBs stay healthy this year.






Should I just kill myself right now???

[bothedmbfan]

Don't kill yourself; Cubbies haven't fucked up the division yet.

Anyways, I have a few questions to ask.

First here's my team.

Qb-Kitna
RB1- Steven Jackson
RB2- LT
WR1-Andre Johnson
WR2- Randy Moss
WR3- Jericho Cotchery(It's a 3 WR leauge)
TE- Chris Cooley
K- Josh Scobee
D/ST- Chargers

Be- Ben Rothlisberger
Be- DeShaun Foster
Be- LenDale White
Be- Greg Olsen
Be- Raiders D/ST

1. Do I start Ben against the Browns, or Kitna against the Raiders?
2. Do I start the Bolts D against Da Bears or Raiders D against the Lions?

[vinyljunkie]

Just got done drafting, heres how I ended up.

Hasselbeck, Cutler
Willie Parker, Brandon Jacobs, Tatum Bell, Brandon Jackson
Fitzy, Javon Walker, Reggie Brown, Vincent Jackson, Joe Horn, Jerry Porter
Heath Miller
Matt Stover
Denver

we run QB, 2 wr, 2 rb, flex, TE, K, D

any thoughts or critiques would be appreciated.

Also, who do you guys think will start for tennessee, Lendale white is the only one not available, so if its brown or henry I might pick them up

[gravedigger13]

I drafted Travis Henry but I'm not entirely sold on him. Anyone care to change my mind?

[lennon2324]

yeah i might be weak with my receivers but you never know with galloway, he may be old but who knows what garcia can do for him...he is after all pretty much the only guy to throw to on that team...matt jones was such a disappointment the last two years the he just went over looked...i'm real pumped about norwood but i don't know who to put as my flex this week...any opinions?

[lennon2324]

I drafted Travis Henry but I'm not entirely sold on him. Anyone care to change my mind?

i think he'll be a good number two back so long as he doesn't get hurt and shanahan stays away from his RB by committee

[PipeandaCrepe]

McGahee against the bengals or McAllister against the pussy colts?

[Tiduwho]

McGahee against the bengals or McAllister against the pussy colts?

I haven't really heard how they're going to be splitting up time in NO this year, is Bush supposed to have a bigger role? I'd go with McGahee, the Bengals D is horrible.

[PipeandaCrepe]

I haven't really heard how they're going to be splitting up time in NO this year, is Bush supposed to have a bigger role? I'd go with McGahee, the Bengals D is horrible.

here's my analysis of the situation:

Deuce will be more likely to get the red zone carries, but the saints have a high powered offense that can score from just about anywhere on the field. while deuce is capable of breaking a nice run from 15 yards out to score, im not sure how likely he is to get those runs from 3 yards out for a gimme TD.

McGahee is a solid back, but i really hate the ravens offense.

[DrinkNoH2O]

Here's what I'm working with, I'm pretty excited about my team this year:


QB Drew Brees

WR Reggie Wayne

WR Randy Moss

RB Joseph Addai

RB Maurice Jones-Drew

TE Tony Gonzalez

W/R Jamal Lewis

BN Matt Hasselbeck

BN Laveranues Coles

BN Chris Chambers

BN Randy McMichael

K Jeff Wilkins

BN David Akers

DEF New England

D Mike Vrabel

BN Terence Newman

[proudestmnky]

First here's my team.

Qb-Kitna
RB1- Steven Jackson
RB2- LT
WR1-Andre Johnson
WR2- Randy Moss
WR3- Jericho Cotchery(It's a 3 WR leauge)
TE- Chris Cooley
K- Josh Scobee
D/ST- Chargers


how did you manage to get the #1 and #2 pick in your league?

anyway, heres my team, 12 team league:

QB: Carson Palmer
RB1: Steven Jackson
RB2: Brandon Jacobs
WR1: Steve Smith
WR2: Lee Evans
WR3: Vincent Jackson
TE: Heath Miller

nobody cares about k/d, so here is my bench:
Norwood, Mark Clayton, Eli Manning (i hate him, but solid numbers), Brandon Jones, T.J. Ducket (i panicked). only pick i don't feel so good about is jacobs, but that was why i made sure i got norwood as a backup. and hopefully steve smith will have someone who can get him the ball.

[bothedmbfan]

I got LT in a trade my friend.

[proudestmnky]

wow. care to mention what the trade was? i'm also curious how many teams are in your league.

[bothedmbfan]

12 team leauge, and it was something like Caddy Jones, Matt Leinart, Reggie Wayne for LT and Andre Johnson.

Don't exactly remeber precisly wat it was, but something to that effect.

[bothedmbfan]

gave up Matt Leinart, Reggie Wayne, and Antonio Gates, Caddy Williams for LT, Randy Moss, Andre Johnson, and Chris Cooley.

[SatelliteEyes]

Yeah, I remember you mentioned that trade earlier in the thread. I usually dont like to be in Leagues with people that have no idea what they are doing - or without a commissioner who doesnt have the balls to veto a deal like that - It just isnt as fun or competitive.

Hopefully for you, you are playing for money.

[seekupig]

Yeah, I remember you mentioned that trade earlier in the thread. I usually dont like to be in Leagues with people that have no idea what they are doing - or without a commissioner who doesnt have the balls to veto a deal like that - It just isnt as fun or competitive.

Hopefully for you, you are playing for money.

our league votes on trades. 10 man league, 6 votes can veto a trade. it makes trades a little bit harder to get through, but it also keeps the league balanced as far as power shifts go...

[boutrous11]

well then your whole league is retarded. or at least half i should say.

[dmbgodagirl41]

Bo, why didn't you ask me to play in your league because you are clearly playing with special ed people.

Did you ever do anything about that trade you had on the table?

[Tiduwho]

Okay...I missed this draft because I didnt' have internet yet and I don't know how this happened....It's a 10 man league. And I can't believe auto-pick got me this team:

QB Brady
RB Larry Johnson
RB Ronnie Brown
WR Torry Holt
WR Randy Moss
WR Santana Moss
TE Kellen Winslow
K Shayne Graham
D Philly

Bench

QB Pennington
RB Adrian Peterson
RB Warrick Dunn
WR Vincent Jackson
TE Dallas Clark



Ummm...just a bit stacked I would say. But it figures...this is my non-money league. Sigh...

[boutrous11]

I'm so pumped that Terry Glenn is going to miss the season. I have Patrick Crayton in my 2 leagues, and my main one is a ppr league, where i desperately needed a wideout to step up.

[SatelliteEyes]

Time for a little Start' em/Sit 'em action.

This week I am starting:

Matt Hasselbeck over Phillip Rivers
Adrian Peterson over Cedric Benson (RB2)
James Jones over Joey Galloway (WR3)

THe last one, Jones is a rookie WR in GB. They have no running game and their #2 receiver Jennings is out this week. Jones was a monster in the preseason and will get ton of looks today.

Best of luck to everyone.

[bothedmbfan]

Kitna or Big Ben?
Bolts or Raiders?

(Please help)

Also, I would say that you should Start Benson, a guy that will more than likely get all of Da Bears carries, as opposed to a guy that is splitting time, and may get as many carries as 15.

[SatelliteEyes]

Kitna or Big Ben?
Bolts or Raiders?

(Please help)

Also, I would say that you should Start Benson, a guy that will more than likely get all of Da Bears carries, as opposed to a guy that is splitting time, and may get as many carries as 15.

I go Kitna and Chargers.

Re: Benson. The Chargers defense is just a notch below Chicago and Baltimore, especially the run defense. Peterson is up against Atlanta and their Nose Tackle, Grady Jackson, is out, and Peterson will be the goalline back (at least I think he will be). I like Benson enough to start him most weeks, but he never thrilled me last year and this preseason was very uninspiring.

Call it a hunch.

[bothedmbfan]

I know the Bolts D is better that Atlanta's, I just personally would have gone with Benson.

Granted, RB problems don't apply to me for a while(Jackson and LT baby...CHAMPIONSHIP!)

[SatelliteEyes]

Im excited to see what LT does against Chicago this afternoon.

[bothedmbfan]

I know it's quite the shitty situation for me.

A Bears fan with the Bolts D and LT.

[SatelliteEyes]

Im sorry that you are a Bears fan.

[SatelliteEyes]

FUCK YAHOO!

Jags kicker Josh Scobee was just injured in pregames, Yahoo is crashing right now because people are using it to change lineups.

Looks like Im fucked.

[SoRight24]

54 points already!

[bothedmbfan]

Guy I'm playing has 46 already(Granted he had people play on Thursday, but still.)

[bothedmbfan]

Scobee is playing now, YAY!

[SatelliteEyes]

yeah thank god. Yahoo still sucks.

[jaking1185]

Andre Johnson has 3 catches for 97 yards and a TD. Maybe I shouldn't have thrown him into my Manning trade.

[bothedmbfan]

Andre Johnson got me back into my game.

[SatelliteEyes]

How did everyone do this week?

I am in three leagues, all with mixed results. One I have pretty much locked up, one I just need my guys who I have left to have good games and the last one I need the guys I have left to have good games and the other guy to suck.

[DMBtheStoned]

Down 110-50 but I still have 5 players yet to play and the team with 110 have played all their players.
Need big games from Brandon Jacobs, Shockey, larry Fitzgerald, darrel jackson, and the kicker.

[SatelliteEyes]

Brandon Jacobs has fucked me. I had a lot of depth for running back with Jacobs as my third (knee) and Cadillac Williams as my 4th (ribs) and Brandon Jackson as my 5th (sucky) running backs.

Fuck.

[jaking1185]

I'm beating my opponent in the ESPN H2H leagues. I'm getting crushed in my local league.

[SatelliteEyes]

Hey gotta give it up to my fantasy WRs who scored me one point this week. That's right, thanks to Reggie (pieces of shit are) Brown and Lee Evans.

[BellybuttonKid]

I am suprised if anyone would play Evans against Denver.

I don't play anyone that is going against Champ Bailey. No reciever ever really beats him.

[cruscott35]

I am suprised if anyone would play Evans against Denver.

I don't play anyone that is going against Champ Bailey. No reciever ever really beats him.


Yeah, I went with Calvin Johnson even though I wasn't sure how much he was going to be involved over Lee Evans, turned out to be a good idea.

[lennon2324]

i hate deion branch...him and cooley combined for 1 point for me...which helped me lose even though i got huge performances from parker, andre johnson, my broncos D and jay cutler

[crashintonickdm]

i dropped terry glenn for bernard berrian.

im winning 187-165 with frank gore left.

i didnt start romo or witten. i had brees and shockey instead :|

[boutrous11]

Burleson, Ward, and Pittman are good pickups right now.....

[lennon2324]

i put in for ward, pittman, and toomer....maybe i'll put in for nate too

[UNC41]

Does your team suck that bad where you need to make that many changes after one week?

[seekupig]

Does your team suck that bad where you need to make that many changes after one week?

:thumbsup

there's a couple of guys in my league that try to make a living on the waiver wire. knee jerk reactions to one good game, and dropping other players after one bad game. if you draft good and are confident in your team, you have to be patient. if the players are good, it'll all balance out by the end of the season...

there was a guy in my league that dropped/added three players after the draft, before the first game of the season. i could look at the times he picked them up and tell that he was jumping on players that were having good preseason games.... :lol

[lennon2324]

Does your team suck that bad where you need to make that many changes after one week?

no but i want to drop buckhalter and matt jones...and considering i won't be first in the waiver order, i put in for two at each position

[boutrous11]

Does your team suck that bad where you need to make that many changes after one week?

we have 21 roster spots, and it's a keeper league, so i'm always looking for young guys that could end up being huge. Ward fits that for sure.

[dmbgodagirl41]

i got shelacked in two of mine, and totally shelacked in the rest.:lol

[jaking1185]

I won in the ESPN H2H league, but next week I'm going up against a guy with Palmer, LT and TO. I'm getting killed.

I also got spanked in my local league, but I don't expect Stephen Jackson and Drew Brees to completely stink again.

[Tiduwho]

i got shelacked in two of mine, and totally shelacked in the rest.:lol

Applying proper grammar, you were shelacked in everything.

[lennon2324]

lol that's true


anyone think norwood will win the starting job by week 4?

[boutrous11]

up by 30, up against Portis/Cooley tonight, ppr. Need to win to be the only 2-0 team in my division.

[seekupig]

had a scare last night. i was down by 26 going into MNF with McNabb and Westbrook playing, the other guy had nobody in the game. they combined for 27 points to give me the 1 point victory..... :lol

[dmbgodagirl41]

SON OF A BITCH.

I'm sucking ass in this league. Time to get down to business, BITCHES.

[boutrous11]

ha, i won 131.3 to 127.5. Portis and Cooley both scored and I still won. lol.

Travis Henry. That guy makes me nervous as fuck because he's going to get hurt. I'm offering him around my league and I can't get shit as far as a wide receiver goes. The NFL's leading rusher and I can't trade him...

edit: my lineup's Rothless, Henry, Rudi, Caddilac (plus Ward), Boldin, D. Jackson, Clayton/Crayton, Heap.

[irishluck314]

I have no idea what im gonna do now.....Andre Johnson is killing ppl and of course he gets injured....im screwed.....oh and did I mention Donovan Mcnabb is my QB

[lennon2324]

i'm kind of screwed by andre too....have to start toomer or dwayne bowe in his spot...who do you guys like better??

my other two are galloway and branch

[broatchg]

what def should I start...Miami @ the NYJ or STl @ TB?

Edit: Miami almost screwed me last week with -3.00 pts last week

Edit 2: And also Watson vs. Buf or Winslow vs. Oak for the TE position?

[lennon2324]

thats a tough one because the rams d isn't too impressive...especially against the run...and miami's run defense is a disgrace...nothing on the waivers??

[jaking1185]

what def should I start...Miami @ the NYJ or STl @ TB?

Edit: Miami almost screwed me last week with -3.00 pts last week

Edit 2: And also Watson vs. Buf or Winslow vs. Oak for the TE position?

I think Winslow has more potential for a big game, so I'd start him.

[lennon2324]

i would start winslow also...he will probably blow up this week...figures since i am playing him lol

anyone have advice for my post above now??

[Tangus]

Who would you start at QB given the following choices:

Tony Romo vs. The Bears
John Kitna vs. The Eagles

I'm leaning towards Kitna, but can't bring myself to make a decision.

[lennon2324]

kitna no doubt in my mind

still waiting on advice lol

[Tangus]

i'm kind of screwed by andre too....have to start toomer or dwayne bowe in his spot...who do you guys like better??


I'd start Toomer. Bowe is still a wildcard. He'll get more touches this week but who knows how he'll perform. Also, I believe Washington's pass defense is ranked worse than the Vikings, but I would double check that.

[lennon2324]

i have toomer in now but i have a feeling bowe might run wild on minny's d

[Tangus]

Guess I was wrong about the pass defenses. Here are some rankings for the Washington vs. Minnesota pass defenses:

Washington
61.9% completetion rate
216.5 yards allowed
5.46 yards per attempt
1 touchdown

Minnesota
65.9% completetion rate
264 yards allowed
6.73 yards per attempt
2 touchdowns

I'd still choose Toomer though.

[boutrous11]

Who would you start at QB given the following choices:

Tony Romo vs. The Bears
John Kitna vs. The Eagles

I'm leaning towards Kitna, but can't bring myself to make a decision.

why not? kitna is an elite fantasy qb.

[lennon2324]

i think i'm gonna go with toomer..i also have m,uhammed on my bench but he isn't doing dick

[Tangus]

why not? kitna is an elite fantasy qb.

Because Philly's pass defense is better than the Bears right now. Plus Kitna's concussion last week, etc. Even though he came back who knows if he's going to be able to take a hit this week. I'm sure I'll end up going with him since I think Romo is going to have a hard time, it's just a hard chioce.

[boutrous11]

yeah but Kitna says it was divine intervention that got him back into the game last week. So you've got God on your side!

[lennon2324]

bottom line..any QB other than peyton, brady, and maybe bulger and palmer should be benched against a bears d

[JTRocks]

In my league I have Bulger as my starter, but i got Schaub on the bench, what kind of WR do you think I can get for Schaub?

Also, anyone suggest that I trade Lamont Jordan with Dominic Rhodes coming back in 2 weeks? He will pronbly be splitting time with Rhodes, so it could be a sneaky trade

[bothedmbfan]

I sat Westy and still won.

[rickyh24]

bottom line..any QB other than peyton, brady, and maybe bulger and palmer should be benched against a bears d

not so much apparently, i sat Barber against them and he ran all over them, and i would have rather play Romo then my other qb's even though he threw a couple picks.

[seekupig]

i dominated my league this week. set a three year league single week scoring record with 180 points.... and that's with Barber III and Adrian Peterson on my bench....

[Norman Smiley]

what the fuck happened to Steve Smith this weekend?

My two WR's Smith and Ward out up a combined 1 point...

[Norman Smiley]

bottom line..any QB other than peyton, brady, and maybe bulger and palmer should be benched against a bears d


good call... :lol

[boutrous11]

Rhodes won't do shit to Jordan's numbers.

Any word on the severity of Rudi's injury?

[SoRight24]

Pwned.

:(

[UNC41]

I lost my keeper league game this week. Oh, hindsight and your 20/20edness...

- Ronnie Brown. Two eggs lands you on my bench. Figures it's about time you blow up for a HUGE game.
- Plaxico Burress. Very limited in practice on Friday and listed as questionable. Why didn't you tell me you found some Vagasil and were going to tough it out.
- Vincent Jackson. Thanks for catching a touchdown pass after you landed on my bench. Very thoughtful of you.

:BANG :BANG :BANG

[seekupig]

so, after three weeks of the season, what does everyone think about the team you drafted? better than you'd hoped, about what you thought they'd be, or what the fuck was i thinking? just curious as to how many "draft experts" are out there scratching their heads.....

[jaking1185]

My team is pretty good, but Drew Brees and Stephen Jackson are killing me.

[Tiduwho]

Randy Moss and Roy Williams are tearing it up for me in the receiver department. Hopefully McNabb keeps it up. My running backs though are sorely lacking. Frank Gore, Cadillac, and Benson. Ugh...all of them have sucked thus far. Ravens D/ST has helped some though. Woulda got me great points if Kurt Warner hadn't come in.

[Mario82288]

I'm 3-0, but I think most of it is luck. I have the least amount of points scored against me in my league and I have only scored like the 4th or 5th most. The teams going against me are having injuries too ... let's hope my luck continues, but I probably just jinxed myself by posting this.

[boutrous11]

I have serious issues, although I'm alone at the top of my division. Rudi, Cadlillac, Henry, Mark Clayton, D. Jackson - I'm counting on these guys and right now they're making me really nervous.

[seekupig]

i'm 2-1, but could easily be 3-0. my loss came against the guy with the most points in the league that week. i was second in points, just the way it works out sometimes...

QB - McNabb
RB - Westbrook
RB - Lamont Jordan
RB - Barber III
RB - Adrian Peterson (MIN)
WR - Wayne
WR - Holt
WR - Houshmanilla
TE - Cooley
K - Josh Brown
K - Jason Elam
D/ST - Dallas
D/ST - Denver