Nba 2007-2008

[dmbphan041]

With the start of the season under two months, The Olympic Qualifiers over and the FIBA Championships well under way, I figured what better time then now to start getting excited.

So, who ya got?

I'm going with Boston in the East and San Antonio in the West.

e: for FUCK SAKES. That's two years in a row the B and the A didn't get capitalized. FUCK.

[Dancing Ants]

Can't say I'm looking forward to this year at all. I was so excited last year before the Mavericks shitty 1st rd exit...and then they didn't do a damn thing in free agency. eh..

[CUTiger41]

I just hope my Mavs don't face Golden State in the first round. Or ever.

[SoRight24]

The Celts probably had one of the better offseasons in the league.

I can say I'm pretty damn excited for the season!

KG, Pierce, Allen. :hump

[Tiduwho]

Bulls to win out this year?

[Dancing Ants]

The Celts probably had one of the better offseasons in the league.

I can say I'm pretty damn excited for the season!

KG, Pierce, Allen. :hump

i'd say they have about 2-3 years to win or at least get to the nba finals.

[UNC41]

I just hope my Mavs don't face Golden State in the first round. Or ever.

If Nelson walks there's a huge sigh of relief. The Warriors have to be banking on Marco to be a very solid contributer from Day 1. If not, the J-Rich trade makes zero sense. Wright is a nice fit for the offense, but is two years away from contributing.

Bulls to win out this year?

Deng should be an All-Star. The guy is a beast.

[dmbphan041]

Europe Live in 3 days and this

http://www.nba.com/preview2007/

[41ravens]

as long as the suns don't get fucked over again, i like our chances. pretty psyched that we nabbed alando tucker in the draft. can't wait to see what he can do with the team.

edit: almost forgot about grant hill. hopefully he can give us some good minutes.

[dmbmuskie]

You can call me crazy, but I like the Heat.

[SoRight24]

as long as the suns don't get fucked over again, i like our chances. pretty psyched that we nabbed alando tucker in the draft. can't wait to see what he can do with the team.

I think Tucker will have a Josh Howard like effect on the Suns. :thumbsup

[heff77]

I think Tucker will have a Josh Howard like effect on the Suns. :thumbsup


I would agree, he came out very underated his senior year.


Go Bucks!

[rickyh24]

The Celts probably had one of the better offseasons in the league.

I can say I'm pretty damn excited for the season!

KG, Pierce, Allen. :hump



as am i :multi

[dmbphan041]

as long as the suns don't get fucked over again, i like our chances. pretty psyched that we nabbed alando tucker in the draft. can't wait to see what he can do with the team.

edit: almost forgot about grant hill. hopefully he can give us some good minutes.

and DJ Strawberry. He tore up the Summer League

[Tiduwho]

You can call me crazy, but I like the Heat.

You are definitely crazy. I'd take the Pistons, Cavs, Celts, and Bulls easily over the old old Heat. Yeah, I realize D Wade was banged up and not nearly to his max effectiveness....but then neither were the refs for him. ;)

Either way, Hinrich always plays him well (4 to 0 sweep last year), and Shaq is just too old. Antoine Walker is fat and in his 50's as well.

[Fishbulb290]

Go Nuggets.

Looking forward for the season to start...

[dmbmuskie]

I just have a feeling Shaq has one last run in him.

[rickyh24]

I just have a feeling Shaq has one last run in him.



yeah he did...


2 years ago

[CrashDMB237]

A little something I wrote in wake of the most recent Knicks blunder. Keep in mind, I'm a diehard season ticket holding Knick fan.

http://www.spmsportspage.com/published/spmfeatures/madison-square-circus.shtml

[dmbphan041]

I'm real excited for Kapono and Delfino. This Jamario Moon guy sounds interesting too. I'm kinda pissed we didnt dump Rasho though and we let Slokar go to waste.

[BotheDMBFan]

Bulls.

[UNC41]

I'm real excited for Kapono and Delfino. This Jamario Moon guy sounds interesting too. I'm kinda pissed we didnt dump Rasho though and we let Slokar go to waste.

It can't be good for a franchise when Jason Kapono and Carlos Delfino get a fan base real excited.

[dmbphan041]

It can't be good for a franchise when Jason Kapono and Carlos Delfino get a fan base real excited.

eh we still have Ford, Calderon, Bargnani, Bosh, Garbajosa, and Parker, so its not all bad.

[dmbphan041]

SACRAMENTO, CA, Wednesday, October 9, 2007 --- The Sacramento Kings today announced that rookie center Spencer Hawes, the Kings top pick (10th overall) in the 2007 NBA Draft, will undergo arthroscopic surgery on his left knee on Wednesday, October 10th in Seattle, Washington. Dr. Lawrence Holland will perform the procedure.


damn.

[BotheDMBFan]

Bulls.

[dmbmuskie]

Even with so much going on, I think Ray Allen being mad at KG cursing in practice is my favorite story.

[BreakFree27]

The Celts probably had one of the better offseasons in the league.

I can say I'm pretty damn excited for the season!

KG, Pierce, Allen. :hump

I can bleed GREEN again! :bounce :bounce :bounce

[cbotnyse]

Bulls to win out this year?are the Bulls really gonna be as good as I think we are? I havent followed much (anything) this offseason.

[Dancing Ants]

Kobe to the Mavs? seems probable at this point....

[dmbphan041]

Kobe to the Mavs? seems probable at this point....


source?

[dmbmuskie]

The Mavs are Kobe's #1 option, but I don't see it happening.

[dmbmuskie]

The Mavs are Kobe's #1 option, but I don't see it happening.

[gogrizz2016]

I'll go with Boston in the EAST and Dallas in the WEST. I'll take Dallas to win it all.

San Antonio is yet to repeat so I don't think they will start here. I hope Phoenix can get to the Finals, and they can if they don't meet San Antonio. The Suns don't seem to match up well with them, but they can play Dallas tough. On the other hand, I do believe Dallas can beat San Antonio and I still think had Dallas gotten out of the first round last year that they would've beaten the Spurs.

I love LeBron, but keep Cleveland out of the Finals. Mike Brown's style of play is brutal to watch. Boston's star power should put them over the top. I do worry that they need better role players.

If Kobe goes to Chicago then they could get by Boston. I worry about the lack of a superstar w/ Chicago (every NBA to win a championship has had one except when Detroit beat LA a few years ago).

I live in Memphis so I root for the Grizzlies. They will have a chance to make the playoffs in the WEST. There are a lot of teams that won't be very good this year (Seattle, Portland, Sacramento, Minnesota, LA Clippers). The Clippers will be bad b/c of the injury to Brand. Minnesota is young, Sacramento didn't do anything to get better, Seattle is too young, and Portland lost Oden and traded Randolph. The Grizz get Kyle Lowry back, who missed all but 10 games last year and Mike Conley should come off the bench and give good minutes. Juan Carlos Navarro can shoot the hell out of the ball. Rudy Gay has looked more confident and Gasol should be Gasol. The have a chance to make the playoffs now and I'd put them in the playoffs if Baron Davis gets hurt or Chris Paul gets hurt again or whenever Kobe is traded.

[justinandimcool]

A trade of Kobe to Atlanta for Law, Horford, and Joe Johnson would make me watch the Lakers again.

Of course I can never root diehardedly for the Lakers ever again now that I've left the fanbase (or any NBA team for that matter). But to follow two of my favorite college guys would be bliss (not to mention Luke Walton and Lamar Odom).

[Dancing Ants]

A trade of Kobe to Atlanta for Law, Horford, and Joe Johnson would make me watch the Lakers again.

Of course I can never root diehardedly for the Lakers ever again now that I've left the fanbase (or any NBA team for that matter). But to follow two of my favorite college guys would be bliss (not to mention Luke Walton and Lamar Odom).

Kobe would never go there willingly. he wants to go to a team that has the chance to win. ..and sending those guys to LA would make that pretty impossible for the Hawks to be any good.

[41ravens]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7371682?MSNHPHMA

antoine walker to the wolves. rember when this guy used to be good?

and the season starts in less than a week. with football going on, i haven't even had time to think about the nba. go suns!

[UNC41]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7371682?MSNHPHMA

antoine walker to the wolves. rember when this guy used to be good?

and the season starts in less than a week. with football going on, i haven't even had time to think about the nba. go suns!

The Wolves traded one cancer for another and picked up a first round pick. That trade is so un-McHaleesque.

[dmbphan041]

The Wolves traded one cancer for another and picked up a first round pick. That trade is so un-McHaleesque.

eh Davis is OK IMO. Good deal for the Heat got rid of som excess bagage. Also, I just realized the celts are in the atlantic (yes, im just realizing this now.) That means the raptors are going from 1st to 3rd, and probably wont make the playoffs. crap.

[dmbmuskie]

I can see Davis working out for Miami. Sometimes you just need someone crazy.

[comeandsee41]

hey guys...any interest in doing an ants nba fantasy league?

-ariel

[dmbphan041]

Raptors beat LeBron and Co.

sa-weet.

[dmbphan041]

So apparently, they're not showing opening night games in Canada.

what a crock of shit.

[Stream #41]

So apparently, they're not showing opening night games in Canada.

what a crock of shit.

Raptors NBA tv has both TNT games.

[dmbphan041]

Raptors NBA tv has both TNT games.

you're kidding me. Dammit, the one year I decide not to have a Rogers box.

fuuuuuuuuuuck. Stupid TSN showing Hockey, ugh.

[Stream #41]

you're kidding me. Dammit, the one year I decide not to have a Rogers box.

fuuuuuuuuuuck. Stupid TSN showing Hockey, ugh.

I can't live without the Rogers sports pack during the NBA season. Hundreds and hundreds of games on Raps TV + all the Sportsnet channels.

[dmbphan041]

I can't live without the Rogers sports pack during the NBA season. Hundreds and hundreds of games on Raps TV + all the Sportsnet channels.

$30 a month for a student is a lot of money, especially with no incoming cash flow. :(

[dmbhoosier21]

I have no idea how Larry Bird could possibly think the Pacers have any potential in being contenders with so much $ already locked up in so many players for a long time.

The team they have is mediocre at best, it's rebuildin' time.

Hope I'm wrong though.

[DMBZeppelin]

Kobe to the Mavs? seems probable at this point....
Have they offered something? Right now with the Bulls and Lakers having daily talks, and most importantly Kobe has wanted to be a Bull since last year.

[Dancing Ants]

Have they offered something? Right now with the Bulls and Lakers having daily talks, and most importantly Kobe has wanted to be a Bull since last year.

he won't go there. the lakers want too much.

[SoRight24]

Dallas would probably be the best place for him, but the Lakers would probably want Dirk, and Dallas won't give up Dirk.

[comeandsee41]

kobe isnt going anywhere.

[SoRight24]

Hey mods, can we move this to the sports forum?

Thanks.

[dmbphan041]

Hey mods, can we move this to the sports forum?

Thanks.

Also, can we capitalize NBA. thanks!

well, The Raptors almost blew a 20 point lead.

[dmbhoosier21]

Just got back from the Pacers home-opener.

They may not be contenders but they are not gonna be as bad as everyone makes them out to be.

Two starters out (including JO) and still pulled out a win from the Wizards who have 3 very good scorers - agent 0, Jamison and C. Butler. - solid team effort for the win!

[Mattstl1]

I use to love the NBA. Now I honestly can't stomach it.

[Dancing Ants]

anyone else LOVE the dismantling the Mavs put on the Cavs? beautiful.

[dreamingtreeIU]

hey guys...any interest in doing an ants nba fantasy league?

-ariel


yes pm me

[CUTiger41]

anyone else LOVE the dismantling the Mavs put on the Cavs? beautiful.

They looked pretty good. Loved when JET used Lebron as a ladder and put a foot in his face. :thumbsup

[UNC41]

If I'm Lebron I'd get the hell out of Cleveland as fast as possible. That team has done an absolutely horrible job of putting a team around him.

[dmbphan041]

If I'm Lebron I'd get the hell out of Cleveland as fast as possible. That team has done an absolutely horrible job of putting a team around him.

and go where? Chicago with Kobe?

[SoRight24]

and go where? Chicago with Kobe?

If Kobe leaves LA, If I were LeBron, I'd be getting in contact with Mitch Kupchak and Phil Jackson.

[41ravens]

suns start tonight. time for a real team to take the court. ;)

[UNC41]

and go where? Chicago with Kobe?

A big market with competent management.

[comeandsee41]

LeBron will be a Brooklyn Net when his contract runs out...he knew that when he didnt take the max deal.

[dmbphan041]

LeBron will be a Brooklyn Net when his contract runs out...he knew that when he didnt take the max deal.

LeBron, Vince and J Kidd all on the same teams? Shit my Raptors'll will finish last in the Atlantic for the rest of their days.

[SoRight24]

LeBron, Vince and J Kidd all on the same teams? Shit my Raptors'll will finish last in the Atlantic for the rest of their days.

Kidd will probably be retired by that time.

[dmbphan041]

Kidd will probably be retired by that time.

true.

[Nick@Night]

T-Wolves signed Jefferson to an extension, at least he'll stick around here for a while.

[comeandsee41]

T-Wolves signed Jefferson to an extension, at least he'll stick around here for a while.

OJ Mayo is going to need someone to pass the ball to

[UNC41]

OJ Mayo is going to need someone to pass the ball to

Derrick Rose ...

[Dancing Ants]

If Kobe leaves LA, If I were LeBron, I'd be getting in contact with Mitch Kupchak and Phil Jackson.

LA wouldn't be any better with Lebron than it would with kobe.

[CrashDMB237]

Does it make anyone else sick that the Nets BARELY filled up half their arena for their OPENING NIGHT? (Or so it seemed on TV)

Maybe its just because I'm an NYer and I'm used to sellouts even when our teams are awful, but thats just disappointing. It even looked like the Pacers barely filled up half an arena. I guess its just the decline in interest but still, it sucks. I don't even know why I'M mad about it :lol

[comeandsee41]

Does it make anyone else sick that the Nets BARELY filled up half their arena for their OPENING NIGHT? (Or so it seemed on TV)

Maybe its just because I'm an NYer and I'm used to sellouts even when our teams are awful, but thats just disappointing. It even looked like the Pacers barely filled up half an arena. I guess its just the decline in interest but still, it sucks. I don't even know why I'M mad about it :lol

this is why they are leaving NJ....no fan support....not even when they were in the finals.

[Dancing Ants]

Skip Bayless shouldn't be allowed to be on TV.






.....or talk.

[Nick@Night]

Skip Bayless shouldn't be allowed to be on TV.






.....or talk.
Or breathe.

[dmbhoosier21]

Does it make anyone else sick that the Nets BARELY filled up half their arena for their OPENING NIGHT? (Or so it seemed on TV)

Maybe its just because I'm an NYer and I'm used to sellouts even when our teams are awful, but thats just disappointing. It even looked like the Pacers barely filled up half an arena. I guess its just the decline in interest but still, it sucks. I don't even know why I'M mad about it :lol


I was at the game. Announced attendance was 16-thousand something.......:lol - Bullshit.

The Fieldhouse wasn't close to filled up.

[dmbphan041]

Raptors sign Humphries to an extension through 10'-11'

good.

[comeandsee41]

I was at the game. Announced attendance was 16-thousand something.......:lol - Bullshit.

The Fieldhouse wasn't close to filled up.

i watched, it looked empty on tv

edit: the Nba is killing me...can we switch it to NBA

[dmbhoosier21]

i watched, it looked empty on tv

Which is a far cry from the way it was when the Fieldhouse first opened and when the Pacers actually resembled a team, not just in skill level but professionalism as well.

The only good thing about having so few fans at the game was that every insult and remark about Joey Crawford was heard :lol

It was his first game back and the fans didn't let him forget.

[dmbphan041]

Detroit vs Miami
Houston vs Utah
Phoenix vs Seattle

I better be able to watch at least one of these games tonight! Stupid Canadian TV!

[UNC41]

League Pass is free for two weeks, so if that's an option on with your TV provider you can watch games on that.

[dmbphan041]

League Pass is free for two weeks, so if that's an option on with your TV provider you can watch games on that.

no shit? where/how do I sign up?

[dmbphan041]

no shit? where/how do I sign up?

wait, do you have to have a Rogers Cable box in Canada? :(

[dmbphan041]

No D-Wade til Nov 15th? fuck that!

[UNC41]

wait, do you have to have a Rogers Cable box in Canada? :(

No idea about what kind of package you need in Canada. Sorry.

[SoRight24]

This game thats on right now is rather fucking boring. :thumbsdow

[41ravens]

durant has 18 in the first half. good game so far. the sonics play a lot like the suns...very uptempo. phoenix looks off. hopefully they can get their shit together in the second half.

[UNC41]

That shot by Wilkins to end the half was sweet. Wilcox has looked good in the first half. I've always liked him since his year at Maryland.

[SoRight24]

I love watching Durant play.

It's just painful to watch the NBA these days.

Especially watching teams you have no ties to or care about.

[dmbphan041]

The Seattle game isn't on in Canada--or it's on Raptors NBA TV, which I don't have. :(

[justinandimcool]

I love watching Durant play.

It's just painful to watch the NBA these days.

Especially watching teams you have no ties to or care about.

How's the kid doing?

You're only realizing this now? :lol I can't imagine this game to be that bad though. Is it?

[41ravens]

yeah, the sonics look like they'll be a fun team to watch. just not against the suns.

[UNC41]

How's the kid doing?

You're only realizing this now? :lol I can't imagine this game to be that bad though. Is it?

He's got 18 at half, looks good. The Sonics could be a pretty entertaining team to watch this year with Durant, Wilkins, Wilcox and some of the things Green does defensively.

[SoRight24]

How's the kid doing?

You're only realizing this now? :lol I can't imagine this game to be that bad though. Is it?

No, I've known for a while.

It's just every year when the season starts, I buy into all the hype.

But yet it's always the same, boring as shit.

I mean I will still support and watch the C's, but thats about it unless there is nothing on. :lol

[justinandimcool]

He's got 18 at half, looks good. The Sonics could be a pretty entertaining team to watch this year with Durant, Wilkins, Wilcox and some of the things Green does defensively.

Ah. Sounds pretty cool. Good for him :thumbsup I've always liked Wilcox, and I hope Green gets a rep for himself as a solid defensive guy.


And Trav- I too buy into the hype. But when you only watch the last 3 minutes of every game, it isn't that bad at all.

Catching the Spurs the other night for half a quarter though was awesome. If only every NBA team was something like that.

[SoRight24]

I like watching the halftime show though.

Mainly because Charles Barkley is one of my favorite people ever. :thumbsup

Love that guy. :lol

And Kenny Smith too, gotta support former Heels.

[UNC41]

Ah. Sounds pretty cool. Good for him :thumbsup I've always liked Wilcox, and I hope Green gets a rep for himself as a solid defensive guy.


And Trav- I too buy into the hype. But when you only watch the last 3 minutes of every game, it isn't that bad at all.

Catching the Spurs the other night for half a quarter though was awesome. If only every NBA team was something like that.

Green had a nice intro to the NBA last night when he blocked Melo on his first defensive possession.

[CrashDMB237]

Raptors sign Humphries to an extension through 10'-11'

good.

Why?

[dmbphan041]

http://www.nba.com/broadband/league_pass.jsp

awesome.

[Tiduwho]

Man, what a rough little stretch to start the season for the Bulls. At New Jersey, where they've now lost 12 in a row, and oh lol.

[SoRight24]

Damn, the C's are just pwning the Wizards. :thumbsup

[dmbphan041]

wow

http://www.nba.com/games/20071102/TORNJN/boxscore.html

[Fishbulb290]

wow

http://www.nba.com/games/20071102/TORNJN/boxscore.html

wow. that's exactly what I said when I opened the link :lol

I do like that they are starting to keep track of the +/- I think that's a good stat to keep...

[dmbphan041]

wow. that's exactly what I said when I opened the link :lol

I do like that they are starting to keep track of the +/- I think that's a good stat to keep...

Raptors had a 42 point lead at one point.

[dmbphan041]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3091416

it's only a matter of time.

[dmbhoosier21]

Pacers 2-0

[cruscott35]

Man, what a rough little stretch to start the season for the Bulls. At New Jersey, where they've now lost 12 in a row, and oh lol.


Hope you enjoy three more years of this at 15.5 million.

Game 1: 38 mins, 7 points, 5 rebs, 1 blk
Game 2: 25 mins, 1 point, 4 rebs, 2 blk

[Tiduwho]

Hope you enjoy three more years of this at 15.5 million.

Game 1: 38 mins, 7 points, 5 rebs, 1 blk
Game 2: 25 mins, 1 point, 4 rebs, 2 blk

Believe me, when they were reporting that Wallace was involved in the imminent trade with the Lakers and Kings I was celebrating. Blugh. He got pulled for Aaron Grey....

[cruscott35]

Believe me, when they were reporting that Wallace was involved in the imminent trade with the Lakers and Kings I was celebrating. Blugh. He got pulled for Aaron Grey....


Yeah, I think most Pistons fans are bitter cause we offered the guy a ton of money, just not a max deal. I think we'd mostly like him on our team, but he kinda said fuck you to us for a few million more. Said he was disrespected, well, what about when we gave you that 30 million dollar contract when no one knew who you were?

He's the kind of guy that has to have a chip on his shoulder that he doesn't belong to play well. Now that he's got the recognition, and got paid, his hustle plays are going to go away, and without those he's worthless, he didn't get to where he is on basketball skill.

[dmbhoosier21]

The biggest screwjob by a player to a team is by Ron Artest, almost single-handedly took an entire organization down (referring to the Pacers).

[dmbphan041]

Why the Raptors refuse to play Jamario Moon is beyond me. He's better than Delfino IMO.

[cruscott35]

Why the Raptors refuse to play Jamario Moon is beyond me. He's better than Delfino IMO.


Delfino is garbage, well, he has flashes, but he's garbage more times than not.

[dmbphan041]

Delfino is garbage, well, he has flashes, but he's garbage more times than not.

yuppe. Kapono though, he's money.

Actually, come to think of it, our starting 5 is pretty badass.

Ford
Parker
Kapono
Bargnani
Bosh

damn.

[dmbphan041]

channelsurfing.net has usually has out of town games. I think they hacked NBA League Pass.

[rickyh24]

channelsurfing.net has usually has out of town games. I think they hacked NBA League Pass.


wow that site is pretty cool. i might cancel my cable.

[dmbphan041]

I'm excited for the Bulls/Bucks game.

[Tiduwho]

I'm excited for the Bulls/Bucks game.

Shit, I almost forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me, I finally get to watch a game!

[dmbphan041]

The Griz are looking damn good.

Swift, Navarro, Gay, Conoley(sp?), Gasol, mighty mouse, K-Rush, etc etc

[dmbphan041]

ZOMG EE's starting @ the 3 spot.

[UNC41]

I love seeing the Bobcats start 2-0 and Felton playing really well. I read something a week ago that said he was too slow to be a PG in the NBA. I'd love for him to breakout and prove that thought completely wrong ...

Oh, and I loved seeing Ricky Davis throw away the ball on the game's most important possession.

[cbotnyse]

Looks like the Bulls are really sucking ass so far this year. What a shitty start. If this continues we are gonna start hearing Kobe chants at home games.

[comeandsee41]

Looks like the Bulls are really sucking ass so far this year. What a shitty start. If this continues we are gonna start hearing Kobe chants at home games.

its early. the bulls made the playoffs a few years back after starting 2-10 or something.

edit: my wiz suck too if thats any consolation

[SoRight24]

The C's are playing the Nuggets tonight.

Should be an entertaining game.

[rickyh24]

The C's are playing the Nuggets tonight.

Should be an entertaining game.



:thumbsup cant wait

[CrashDMB237]

The C's are playing the Nuggets tonight.

Should be an entertaining game.

The Nuggets are going to be tired out after the run the Knicks gave them last night :D

[comeandsee41]

Should be an entertaining game.

:lol :lol

[DaveismyWeapon]

I went to the Bobcats game last night and I just have to say the officiating was atrocious. It is really unfortunate but all I thought was the refs had money on the game. I really lost a lot of respect for the Suns b/c of all their flopping around (like 5 Shane Battier's) but what was really sad is that the refs totally bought into it. Officiating in the NBA has become a joke and is a plauge to the league right now. It's pretty bad when refs control and dictate everything in a sport. No wonder that one ref was betting. It's almost too easy. The NFL gets rid of their terrible officials whereas the NBA does nothing. Sorry about the rant but I'm just fed up.

P.S. If I ever see Raja Bell on the street, I'm stabbing him in the neck. That guy is the biggest p.o.s. I hope Kobe beats the piss out of him.

[SoRight24]

The Nuggets are going to be tired out after the run the Knicks gave them last night :D

That's the only thing the Knicks are good for. ;)

[41ravens]

I went to the Bobcats game last night and I just have to say the officiating was atrocious. It is really unfortunate but all I thought was the refs had money on the game. I really lost a lot of respect for the Suns b/c of all their flopping around (like 5 Shane Battier's) but what was really sad is that the refs totally bought into it. Officiating in the NBA has become a joke and is a plauge to the league right now. It's pretty bad when refs control and dictate everything in a sport. No wonder that one ref was betting. It's almost too easy. The NFL gets rid of their terrible officials whereas the NBA does nothing. Sorry about the rant but I'm just fed up.

P.S. If I ever see Raja Bell on the street, I'm stabbing him in the neck. That guy is the biggest p.o.s. I hope Kobe beats the piss out of him.

do you really think the officiating would've made a difference? and everyone flops. it's part of the game.

anyway, i wanted to get your opinion since you were at the game. i've heard some outcry over what happened to felton. some cats fans seem to think it was intentional. did it look that way to you? i saw the replay, and to me, it looked like their feet just got tangled. nash would be last player on earth who i would accuse of doing something like that. especially with the suns having to deal with all the spurs crap over the last couple of years. what's your take on what happened?

[rickyh24]

:lol :lol

:confused :confused

[Tiduwho]

its early. the bulls made the playoffs a few years back after starting 2-10 or something.

edit: my wiz suck too if thats any consolation

0 and 9, and then 2 and 13.

[comeandsee41]

0 and 9, and then 2 and 13.
there ya go!

:confused :confused
cleveland is painfully boring to watch. denver is stressing defense. for me, that wont be entertaining at all

[rickyh24]

there ya go!


cleveland is painfully boring to watch. denver is stressing defense. for me, that wont be entertaining at all



denver is playing the celts tonight..

[comeandsee41]

denver is playing the celts tonight..

doh....my friend and co worker is from clevand and always refers to the cavs as the c's...


yes, denver vs boston should be fun to watch

[rickyh24]

doh....my friend and co worker is from clevand and always refers to the cavs as the c's...


yes, denver vs boston should be fun to watch

:thumbsup yeah that makes sense

[SoRight24]

Your friend is wrong.

The C's = Celtics. ;)

[cbotnyse]

0 and 9, and then 2 and 13.holy shit, really? 0 and 9 to start last year? I dont rememebr that, but I'll shut up about this start so far then.

[Tiduwho]

holy shit, really? 0 and 9 to start last year? I dont rememebr that, but I'll shut up about this start so far then.

No, that was 3 years ago. They turned it around and lost to the Wiz in the first round that year. The next year they were 29 and 41 and went 12 and 0 to finish the season and sneak into the playoffs but lost to the later Champion Heat in 6. Last year they had an up and down season but were never too up or too down, swept the pesky Heat only to lose to the Pistons in the 2nd round.

[comeandsee41]

Your friend is wrong.

The C's = Celtics. ;)

im sure people in cleveland say the same about the celtics:)

[dmbphan041]

Fuck EE he's too good.

[DaveismyWeapon]

"do you really think the officiating would've made a difference? and everyone flops. it's part of the game.

anyway, i wanted to get your opinion since you were at the game. i've heard some outcry over what happened to felton. some cats fans seem to think it was intentional. did it look that way to you? i saw the replay, and to me, it looked like their feet just got tangled. nash would be last player on earth who i would accuse of doing something like that. especially with the suns having to deal with all the spurs crap over the last couple of years. what's your take on what happened?"


Actually I do think it would have made a difference in the game, not the outcome per se but definitely in the way it was played. It is just discouraging to sit and watch a game when it is being called unfairly. And I'm not just being a homer here, it was called unfairly.

I agree with you somewhat about flopping. A lot of players do it and what pisses me off is that they get the calls which leads to more flopping and so on and so on. It's just a joke.

From what I saw, the whole Felton thing was a complete accident. The fact is that Felton goes 100 mph with his head down when he drives to the hole or makes moves. Stuff like that happens. I think that maybe everyone was just frustrated with the rest of the game so maybe they thought it was intentional. I wouldn't consider Nash to be a dirty player at all.

[41ravens]

"do you really think the officiating would've made a difference? and everyone flops. it's part of the game.

anyway, i wanted to get your opinion since you were at the game. i've heard some outcry over what happened to felton. some cats fans seem to think it was intentional. did it look that way to you? i saw the replay, and to me, it looked like their feet just got tangled. nash would be last player on earth who i would accuse of doing something like that. especially with the suns having to deal with all the spurs crap over the last couple of years. what's your take on what happened?"


Actually I do think it would have made a difference in the game, not the outcome per se but definitely in the way it was played. It is just discouraging to sit and watch a game when it is being called unfairly. And I'm not just being a homer here, it was called unfairly.

I agree with you somewhat about flopping. A lot of players do it and what pisses me off is that they get the calls which leads to more flopping and so on and so on. It's just a joke.

From what I saw, the whole Felton thing was a complete accident. The fact is that Felton goes 100 mph with his head down when he drives to the hole or makes moves. Stuff like that happens. I think that maybe everyone was just frustrated with the rest of the game so maybe they thought it was intentional. I wouldn't consider Nash to be a dirty player at all.

i didn't see the game, so i can't comment on the officiating. i'm just a suns' fan, so i was just giving you shit.

the flopping pisses me off, too. but i deal with it. every time ginobli flops on us, i just remember that raja does his fair share. and to some extent, nash.

and that's cool. just wanted to see what you thought. i've heard a lot of things, but to call nash a dirty player was just crazy. you're probably right...just a bunch of pissed off fans.

[DaveismyWeapon]

i didn't see the game, so i can't comment on the officiating. i'm just a suns' fan, so i was just giving you shit.

the flopping pisses me off, too. but i deal with it. every time ginobli flops on us, i just remember that raja does his fair share. and to some extent, nash.

and that's cool. just wanted to see what you thought. i've heard a lot of things, but to call nash a dirty player was just crazy. you're probably right...just a bunch of pissed off fans.
Congrats on being a Suns fan. You guys have a good squad. I was absolutely blown away by Diaw. That guy is amazing. He can play any position on the court including point guard. Amazing.

Oh yeah, Ginobli is a baby. Man I can't stand that guy. And Bowen as well.

[CUTiger41]

Was just reading the Daily Dime on ESPN and the Heat are 0-17 in their last 17 games (post season, pre-season, and regular season). Swept in the playoffs, swept in the pre-season and starting this year 0-4. Yikes.

That streak makes me smile but I still can't fathom why/how my Mavs lost to this shitty of a team in the finals. And speaking of, the Mavs play Golden State (0-4) tonight in CA. Should be a crazy game considering the Mavs are 2-9 over their last 11 against GS. Can't say that I'm not nervous since they always seems to have our number.

[DaveismyWeapon]

Was just reading the Daily Dime on ESPN and the Heat are 0-17 in their last 17 games (post season, pre-season, and regular season). Swept in the playoffs, swept in the pre-season and starting this year 0-4. Yikes.

That streak makes me smile but I still can't fathom why/how my Mavs lost to this shitty of a team in the finals. And speaking of, the Mavs play Golden State (0-4) tonight in CA. Should be a crazy game considering the Mavs are 2-9 over their last 11 against GS. Can't say that I'm not nervous since they always seems to have our number.
The Mavs lost b/c if you looked at D-Wade a foul was called. That was the worst series ever.

[CUTiger41]

The Mavs lost b/c if you looked at D-Wade a foul was called. That was the worst series ever.

Exactly. I'm still pissed to this day but what can you do. I hope the Heat go 0-82.

[dmbphan041]

The Raptors suck. Again.

[cruscott35]

The Mavs lost b/c if you looked at D-Wade a foul was called. That was the worst series ever.


Yep, D-Wade is like super mario with a star. It's fucking sick.

[comeandsee41]

hey do you guys play fantasy? if so, post your team!

currently...

jameer nelson
jason kidd
baron davis
carmelo anthony
tim duncan
jason richardson
danny granger
chris wilcox
jason williams
tyson chandler
martell webster
kenyon martin
richard jefferson
al thorton
willie green
luke walton
andray blatche (getting dropped this week)

[Dancing Ants]

baron davis seems to hit shots against dallas that no one really has the ability to hit.

[Dancing Ants]

the mavs make me nauseous. they get so worked up over this warriors team. and they're missing steven jackson! and they put up 109 so far on the mavs. sad.

[CUTiger41]

the mavs make me nauseous. they get so worked up over this warriors team. and they're missing steven jackson! and they put up 109 so far on the mavs. sad.

There was no defense in this game for the most part. Each team just hoped the other missed a few shots, which is what it came down to.

For whatever reason, the Warriors have our number and consistently go nuts against us. Last night was far to close for me, keeping in mind they had no Stephan Jackson or Jason Richardson last night and it was still only a 5 point game. :freak

[dmbhoosier21]

There was no defense in this game for the most part. Each team just hoped the other missed a few shots, which is what it came down to.

Which applies to most of the NBA nowadays.

I miss the mid 90s to early 2000 NBA, especially in the playoffs.

Nothing like the Knicks vs. Pacers series where if one wanted to score in the post - they'd have to endure a mugging.

[SoRight24]

That was a great game to watch last night though.

The Mavs will not win a championship if they stay soft like they are.

Durk just goes and disappears in big games.

[Dancing Ants]

That was a great game to watch last night though.

The Mavs will not win a championship if they stay soft like they are.

Durk just goes and disappears in big games.

Yeah...it was a bit disheartening to see Dirk run away from that dunk around the last 2 minutes there...he had a semi-open lane and he turns and scoots and passes it to Terry. :shrug

[Tiduwho]

Go Bulls! Beat that Piston ass!

[cruscott35]

Go Bulls! Beat that Piston ass!


It was hardly an ass beating, but whatever. You guys don't really scare me. I'd easily trade Gordon and Deng for Kobe. The Celtics look a lot better than I thought they would, however, I think they'll wear down by the time it matters.

[SoRight24]

It was hardly an ass beating, but whatever. You guys don't really scare me. I'd easily trade Gordon and Deng for Kobe. The Celtics look a lot better than I thought they would, however, I think they'll wear down by the time it matters.

Rasheed is playing out of his mind this year. :thumbsup

[Tiduwho]

It was hardly an ass beating, but whatever. You guys don't really scare me. I'd easily trade Gordon and Deng for Kobe. The Celtics look a lot better than I thought they would, however, I think they'll wear down by the time it matters.

Of course, but then that wasn't what the Lakers wanted. They also wanted Tyrus, who looks better and better each game. They also wanted Noah (take him, I fucking HATE the bum), and a possible pick as well.

The Bulls would be giving up too much in Kobe's opinion, so he wouldn't let the deal go through even if Paxson wanted to. Paxson's hands are tied even if he wanted to sell the house.

[justinandimcool]

There was no defense in this game for the most part.

Well that's a surprise.

[justinandimcool]

Of course, but then that wasn't what the Lakers wanted. They also wanted Tyrus, who looks better and better each game. They also wanted Noah (take him, I fucking HATE the bum), and a possible pick as well.

The Bulls would be giving up too much in Kobe's opinion, so he wouldn't let the deal go through even if Paxson wanted to. Paxson's hands are tied even if he wanted to sell the house.

How's Joakim doing so far?


I thought it would've been a great trade for L.A. That's 3 holes filled right there. 2 athletic big guys that can play some defense, an energy guy in Noah, and a legit shooting threat in Gordon.

[Tiduwho]

How's Joakim doing so far?




Meh. Two points here, two points there. But he was banged up to start the season and I'm sure he's not fully up to speed yet.


I just can't believe that the Bulls drafted the one guy that rivaled JJ Redick on my Hate Meter in college basketball. :lorraine

[SoRight24]

Meh. Two points here, two points there. But he was banged up to start the season and I'm sure he's not fully up to speed yet.


I just can't believe that the Bulls drafted the one guy that rivaled JJ Redick on my Hate Meter in college basketball. :lorraine

God I hate Joakim, I really do. :violent

[SoRight24]

How's Joakim doing so far?


I thought it would've been a great trade for L.A. That's 3 holes filled right there. 2 athletic big guys that can play some defense, an energy guy in Noah, and a legit shooting threat in Gordon.

I got NBA 2K8 the other night, and I took over the Lakers.

My first move as GM? Trading Kobe for Nowitzki and Josh Howard.

We made it to the Western Conference Finals. ;)

[dmbphan041]

wow, Philly's got NO fans at the game tonight.

[Fishbulb290]

I think it's funny how China may be in love with the Yi, Yao matchup but I don't think anyone in the US will be watching :lol.

[dmbphan041]

I told people that Jamrio Moon is good.

[41ravens]

suns add to miami's losing streak. nash again takes over in amare's absence. after sitting out two games cause of soreness in his knee, amare finally comes back tonight only to get ejected in the third. nice.

[dmbphan041]

suns add to miami's losing streak. nash again takes over in amare's absence. after sitting out two games cause of soreness in his knee, amare finally comes back tonight only to get ejected in the third. nice.

Miami's useless without D-Wade.

[41ravens]

this just in: chris kaman no longer looks like he likes to eat babies. and it disappoints me.

[Tiduwho]

this just in: chris kaman no longer looks like he likes to eat babies. and it disappoints me.

Man, I loved it when that dude grabbed his junk in the middle of a game and he gives him a "Wtf!?" look and throws him to the sidelines. :lol

[Tiduwho]

Take a look at these standings:

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Div.html


Even when out of contention, officials are trying to play up D Wade any way they can. :lol

[41ravens]

good to see the suns taking care of business against the magic.

[dmbphan041]

Woah, Noah's really inconsisten, and once again Moon was busy cleaning house.

[dmbhoosier21]

Pacers suck; how do you blow two 20 pt. leads in back to back games?

[dmbhoosier21]

"The Spurs made 13 3-pointers in their 107-92 victory, and Jackson was asked if too much penetration was leading to open outside shooters."

"We call this a Brokeback Mountain game, because there's so much penetration and kickouts," Jackson said. "It was one of those games."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/basketball/nba/11/14/jackson.comment.ap/index.html

:lol

[Crush Me DMB]

terrible and out of place

[devilandthelord]

Ok, here's the latest power ranking I just saw from ESPN.com, and I have just one question.
Is this guy on drugs?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerranking

[UNC41]

Ok, here's the latest power ranking I just saw from ESPN.com, and I have just one question.
Is this guy on drugs?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerranking

They are based on statistics.

[jaking1185]

The Mavs are playing D tonight and they are crushing the Spurs right now.

[Dancing Ants]

the mavs are to the spurs what the warriors are to the mavs.

[41ravens]

welcome to the phoenix suns, grant hill!

[rickyh24]

welcome to the phoenix suns, grant hill!



really? man i used to love Grant Hill. He was a great player.

[dmbphan041]

Jamario Moon is my fav player right now.

[Ry8901]

Ok, here's the latest power ranking I just saw from ESPN.com, and I have just one question.
Is this guy on drugs?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerranking

Have you seen the Hornets play? I think they are a serious darkhorse to do some damage in the playoffs....Chris Paul has been an absolute animal...he looks very determined....

[41ravens]

really? man i used to love Grant Hill. He was a great player.

he's killing so far tonight. 17 points in the first half. he's not doing too bad this year. he's managing to keep up with their pace. we're only 8 games into the season, though.

[rickyh24]

he's killing so far tonight. 17 points in the first half. he's not doing too bad this year. he's managing to keep up with their pace. we're only 8 games into the season, though.


i really think if he is healthy he can still play...

[dmbhoosier21]

i really think if he is healthy he can still play...

Definitely. Physically he is obviously nowhere near where he was. But he has always had top-notch skills and great bball IQ - he still has those.

Too bad we will never know how great he could have been if he had just been able to stay healthy.

[dmbhoosier21]

"A couple Knick players and at least one staff member get the distinct impression Isiah Thomas wants to be fired and is going to extremes (I offer for evidence the bizarrely stained, even for Isiah, Stephon Marbury (http://fannation.com/tags/show_tag/4144) misadventure) to give James Dolan no other choice."


........Ummmmm, wonder if Isiah thinks he will ever get another NBA job?

At least in a coaching, GM capacity.

He is at best a failure at everything he has ever done in basketball - excluding being a player.

[rickyh24]

Too bad we will never know how great he could have been if he had just been able to stay healthy.

:thumbsup its true. They were comparing him to some pretty elite players before he got hurt.

[UNC41]

Ricky Davis disruptive on a new team? NO WAY ...

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/27794

[dmbphan041]

Raptors up 20 in the 2nd Q IN Dallas.

this is HUGE.

[justinandimcool]

Raptors up 20 in the 2nd Q IN Dallas.

this is HUGE.

When was the last HUGE NBA game in November?

I guess that's a good confidence boost, but, whatever. Dallas will be fine.

[rickyh24]

there are some good games coming up this week

Boston vs. LA Lakers

Orlando vs San Antonio

we will get to see if the East can match up at least.

[SoRight24]

Fuck the Lakers.

[rickyh24]

Fuck the Lakers.

:thumbsup

it should be a good one though.

[41ravens]

Raptors up 20 in the 2nd Q IN Dallas.

this is HUGE.

guess it wasn't that huge.

dallas 105 - raptors 99

[SoRight24]

guess it wasn't that huge.

dallas 105 - raptors 99

:lol :lol

I guess thats why he quit giving us updates.

[dmbphan041]

:lol :lol

I guess thats why he quit giving us updates.

fucking right.

I hate the Raptors.

[41ravens]

when i went to bed, the suns were up by 17 late in the third. look this morning and see that they only won by 2. against the kings. christ. oh well, six in a row.

[Dancing Ants]

fucking right.

I hate the Raptors.

:lol :lol

never doubt the mavs. (in the regular season at least).

[41ravens]

bad night last night for western powerhouses.

suns lost to warriors.
spurs lost to kings.
mavs lost to wizards.

i wonder when was the last time those three teams all lost on the same night.

[UNC41]

Marko Jaric is banging Adriana Lima. That's amazing because the guy looks like he just woke up 24 hours-a-day.

[rickyh24]

bad night last night for western powerhouses.

suns lost to warriors.
spurs lost to kings.
mavs lost to wizards.

i wonder when was the last time those three teams all lost on the same night.

i noticed that too. Nice to see the East winning those games.

[comeandsee41]

i noticed that too. Nice to see the East winning those games.

:confused only one of those teams is in the east.

[dmbphan041]

I'm not sure if the Knicks just suck or the Celtics are really this good. Up by 35 in the 3rd, wow.

[kydmb99]

Wow, Celts up by 46 on the Knicks right 97-51.

[dmbhoosier21]

I'm not sure if the Knicks just suck or the Celtics are really this good. Up by 35 in the 3rd, wow.

:lol little bit of both.

Knicks are an embarrasment.

[thom hudson]

the knicks are an atrocity.
this might have been the best thing for them, because tonight is rock bottom - national tv, losing by almost 50 - it doesn't get any worse than that.

[comeandsee41]

way to go TNT:thumbsup

[HoldemHart]

Looks like my Orlando Magic are finally being taken seriously, well at least Marc Stein is.... http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/powerranking?season=2008&week=5

Keep in mind this doesn't take into consideration the win over the Warriors last night (in my opinion one of the hottest teams in the NBA)

[neumdogg]

Personally, I prefer this trade:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2985~264~429~496~2417~981~3197 ~1016~2421&teams=13~16~13~13~17~17~17~19~16&te=&cash

I want MARK MADSEN BACK!

[UNC41]

Personally, I prefer this trade:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2985~264~429~496~2417~981~3197 ~1016~2421&teams=13~16~13~13~17~17~17~19~16&te=&cash

I want MARK MADSEN BACK!

Keep dreaming ...

[dmbphan041]

Jamario Moon is a beast.

[dmbphan041]

So TJ Ford's career is over.


fucking hell.

:(

[dmbmuskie]

I can't believe I thought the Heat had another run left in them.

[dmbphan041]

So Bosh and Bargnani come back and we loose Kapono and TJ, fuck.

[1eyed_jack]

So TJ Ford's career is over.


fucking hell.

:(



i think horford should have to sit for as long as ford. if ford's career is over than so is his.

but yes i feel very bad for ford, that was a nasty foul and he went down hard. at this point basketball doesn't matter, i just hope he's ok

[smeritt]

i think horford should have to sit for as long as ford. if ford's career is over than so is his.

but yes i feel very bad for ford, that was a nasty foul and he went down hard. at this point basketball doesn't matter, i just hope he's okIt was a hard foul but I don't think it was blantant.

[1eyed_jack]

It was a hard foul but I don't think it was blantant.


oh come on, he was swinging wildly and nowhere near the ball. he's either uncoordinated or it was a dirty play

[dmbphan041]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=271211001

I like Mitchell's reaction "hey man, what the fuck do you think you're doing!?"

[justinandimcool]

So TJ Ford's career is over.


fucking hell.

:(

So is Al Horford's.

I feel bad for both of them.

[Tiduwho]

Bulls will probably win out the rest of the year..

[Dancing Ants]

So is Al Horford's.

I feel bad for both of them.

Why would Horford's career be over? It was intentional.

[Dancing Ants]

oh come on, he was swinging wildly and nowhere near the ball. he's either uncoordinated or it was a dirty play

no he didn't. go watch it again. he thought he was going to his right hand, but instead Ford went to his left. it was a BAD mistake, but it was a mistake.

[smeritt]

Why would Horford's career be over? It was unintentional.fixed

[Dancing Ants]

fixed

haha....that was a bad slip. thanks.

[41ravens]

i don't think it was intentional. horford may look dumb, but i don't think he'd do something like this. hopefully tj is ok.

in other news, the suns play the jazz tonight. should be a good one. but seeing as how the suns have lost two in a row, to the fucking wolves and heat, i'm not getting my hopes up.

[rickyh24]

just saw the Heat waived Penny...thats to bad..

[rickyh24]

first run all star voting results have been posted

http://www.nba.com//allstar_firstreturns_071213.html

[41ravens]

huge win for phoenix tonight @ san antonio. duncan went off, but it didn't matter. am i the only one who thinks that every game between these two teams should be televised nationally?

[rickyh24]

huge win for phoenix tonight @ san antonio. duncan went off, but it didn't matter. am i the only one who thinks that every game between these two teams should be televised nationally?


they are two great teams to watch. It wouldn't be a bad thing.




new power rankings...well not new but newest


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/powerranking?season=2008&week=7

[comeandsee41]

Boston is overrated.

[chr35919]

Boston is overrated.we shall see

[rickyh24]

Boston is overrated.

:lol :lol yeah ok.

You could have said this a month ago, but they are 20-2 now.


im sure you will respond to this with something like "lets see what happens when they play the spurs"

[comeandsee41]

:lol :lol yeah ok.

You could have said this a month ago, but they are 20-2 now.


im sure you will respond to this with something like "lets see what happens when they play the spurs"

or just lets see what happens when they play some good teams. dont get me wrong, they are a good team, but their schedule has been a cake walk up until now.

[jimibadfish]

or just lets see what happens when they play some good teams. dont get me wrong, they are a good team, but their schedule has been a cake walk up until now.


20-2 with a 14.2 point differential should be enough evidence to say that they are not overrated. Guess not?:confused Based on facts, who would you rate as being better than the Celtics? If noone, then it is impossible for you to think they are overrated.

[comeandsee41]

20-2 with a 14.2 point differential should be enough evidence to say that they are not overrated. Guess not?:confused Based on facts, who would you rate as being better than the Celtics? If noone, then it is impossible for you to think they are overrated.
overrated might have been too strong...untested is probably a better description....those number dont mean much when you're crushing the bobcat, pacers, nets, and hawks.

[rickyh24]

overrated might have been too strong...untested is probably a better description....those number dont mean much when you're crushing the bobcats.


:lol they have played more teams than just the Bobcats. Such a lame argument.

[comeandsee41]

:lol they have played more teams than just the Bobcats. Such a lame argument.

oh come on, you cant seriously look at your schedule thus far and say it hasnt been easy.

[rickyh24]

oh come on, you cant seriously look at your schedule thus far and say it hasnt been easy.

what is easy to you? they have beaten plenty of teams with over 13 wins.

[jimibadfish]

oh come on, you cant seriously look at your schedule thus far and say it hasnt been easy.

They are untested based on a full year's schedule, but the season is more than a quarter gone. They have played and beaten badly some solid teams with an ailing Ray Allen. 22 games at the highest level of competition is anything but easy.

The Pistons coming up tomorrow. Should be a good one.

[comeandsee41]

what is easy to you? they have beaten plenty of teams with over 13 wins.

pretty much all of the eastern conference excluding, orlando, and detroit...and you lost to orlando

[rickyh24]

pretty much all of the eastern conference excluding, orlando, and detroit...and you lost to orlando

well then i guess they will have an easy schedule all year in your eyes then. They only play the western teams twice a year.

[comeandsee41]

well then i guess they will have an easy schedule all year in your eyes then. They only play the western teams twice a year.

no....teams can get better as the season progresses....i'm saying up until this point they haven't been tested.

[jimibadfish]

pretty much all of the eastern conference excluding, orlando, and detroit...and you lost to orlando

They have beaten Denver, Golden St, and LA Lakers by an average of 20.6 points.

[41ravens]

winning 20 out of 22 games is tough no matter who you're playing. now, whether or not they can keep this up all season is yet to be seen. and i'm not sure how they would fare in a seven game series against teams like orlando/detroit/san antonio/phoenix. but right now, the celts seem legit.

[comeandsee41]

They have beaten Denver, Golden St, and LA Lakers by an average of 20.6 points.

all at home.

[jimibadfish]

all at home.

Lucky for them, they play half their games at home.:D

[comeandsee41]

Lucky for them, they play half their games at home.:D

im just saying lets see how they do when they play good teams on the road.