Minnesota Vikings

[thom hudson]

...and the Adrian Peterson era begins.
:D
any fans?

[Nick@Night]

Adrian is going to be a superstar.

[UNC41]

Miami fan living in Minnesota, but I follow the Vikings closely. AP is a straight stud. They key this year is is Tavaris can settle into the West Coast offense. If he has the ability to not lose games Minnesota could easily be a playoff team with its defense, offensive line and Peterson.

[thom hudson]

cant wait until he actually gets his feet wet...gonna be insane. this is a guy you build around.

[Nick@Night]

Chester Taylor will be traded by next season.

[Nick@Night]

Tarvaris Jackson is a piece of shit, we will go nowhere with him.

[thom hudson]

Tarvaris Jackson is a piece of shit, we will go nowhere with him.
i seriously cant fucking stand him :BANG

[PipeandaCrepe]

the nfc north is getting real interesting. bears are the here and now, vikes and lions got the best offensive weapons, and the pack have the up and coming defense. gonna real interesting in 3 years

[ChetUbetcha]

I never understood why the Vikings ever designated Tarvaris Jackson as their future. I guess they just need it cold, hard evidence that he is terrible. And it resulted in a division loss.

[PipeandaCrepe]

I never understood why the Vikings ever designated Tarvaris Jackson as their future. I guess they just need it cold, hard evidence that he is terrible. And it resulted in a division loss.

yeah he's bad, they should have drafted a qb second round this year

[ChetUbetcha]

Leftwich.

[Nick@Night]

i seriously cant fucking stand him :BANG
He's terrible, I never thought there'd be a person with worse decision making skills than Daunte Culpepper.
I never understood why the Vikings ever designated Tarvaris Jackson as their future. I guess they just need it cold, hard evidence that he is terrible. And it resulted in a division loss.
If/when he tanks it will cost Childress his job.
Leftwich.
Is he still out there? I don't know why the hell we don't sign him, at least he can play without having his head up his ass.

[Aubrie]

Viking fan, and we lost to Detroit.... arrgh. :lorraine

[bigeyefish22]

We've got some great names on the O line, and everyone expects them to be, and thinks they are, good - but theyre not. They're like a goddamn sieve in pass protection.

I think they could still become good because they've got guys who've produced in the past and who should still be good. I just think they havent learned how to work together effectively. And they need to do that or this team will go nowhere....

[Nick@Night]

We've got some great names on the O line, and everyone expects them to be, and thinks they are, good - but theyre not. They're like a goddamn sieve in pass protection.

I think they could still become good because they've got guys who've produced in the past and who should still be good. I just think they havent learned how to work together effectively. And they need to do that or this team will go nowhere....
It's more so that Jackson is a horrible QB, even David Carr wouldn't want to be him.

[bigeyefish22]

Jackson does look terrible, but this O-line is surprisingly bad. I think most Vikings fans expected this much from Jackson, but not from the O-line. They're actually a disappointment at this point.....

[UNC41]

Jackson does look terrible, but this O-line is surprisingly bad. I think most Vikings fans expected this much from Jackson, but not from the O-line. They're actually a disappointment at this point.....

The right side is absolutely horrid and McKinnie is great for about 80% of the plays and awful the other 20%. Kelly Holcomb should be starting.

[SoRight24]

They can't be any worse than the Jets' O-line.

:BANG

[UNC41]

They can't be any worse than the Jets' O-line.

:BANG

Minnesota O-Line > Jets O-Line > Miami O-Line

[bigeyefish22]

Viking football = Gopher football < St. John's football

[Nick@Night]

Viking football = Gopher football < St. John's football
:thumbsup

Vikings D: Great
AP: Great
QB: Still ghey

[deadendstreet]

It's more so that Jackson is a horrible QB, even David Carr wouldn't want to be him.

Put David Carr behind an O-line that blocks and a running back that doesn't get hurt easily and I bet he's a decent quarterback. He was in a no-win situation in Houston and got blamed for it. Horrible O-line, horrible defense, etc.

[HolyCow]

I'm just an AD fan. Screw the Vikings, but I love my AD.

[thom hudson]

fucking disgusting game.

[Nick@Night]

Vikings will finish the season 1-15, they couldn't have a bigger hole at the QB position.

[thom hudson]

Vikings will finish the season 1-15, they couldn't have a bigger hole at the QB position.
didnt think i'd want brad johnson back, but right now...just about anything's better than what we've got going.
:BANG

[Nick@Night]

didnt think i'd want brad johnson back, but right now...just about anything's better than what we've got going.
:BANG
I'll take Warren Moon at this point, or any one armed accident victim who can complete a pass downfield.

[superfan]

It doesn't matter who we put at QB. They won't have more than about two seconds to stand in the pocket before McKinnie or Ryan Cook, or Artis Hicks gets beaten by some really small defensive lineman. That is our problem no pocket protection, none. It was aweful last year, and it is just as bad this year. What bugs me, is that we did nothing about it in the offseason when it was our glaring need.

[UNLTrpt]

The run D may be good but the pass D suck balls.

[dmbdreamingtree]

huge fan... the guy is a monster. Look forward to seeing how far his career goes.

[bigeyefish22]

that was the ugliest game Ive seen in a long time. Turkey of the week.

The run D and AP are phenomenal - QB, O-line, Receivers, pass D are as bad as those two are good. fuck. frustrating. fucking frustrating. GB will beat us by 45 points next week.

[superfan]

I was listening to KFAN after the game yesterday and they said our offense is like as if were entering a sword fight with only pillows. :lol :lol :lol :lol

I thought that was pretty funny. Oh well, hopefully we turn it around against those fucking cheeseheads, I hate the fucking packers!

[Nick@Night]

I was listening to KFAN after the game yesterday and they said our offense is like as if were entering a sword fight with only pillows. :lol :lol :lol :lol

I thought that was pretty funny. Oh well, hopefully we turn it around against those fucking cheeseheads, I hate the fucking packers!
Favre is going to rape the fuck out of our secondary, they won't even need to suit up a RB.

[superfan]

fuck the packers. We got fucking screwed at the end of this game, our wr was clearly being held, god I hate the packers.

[PilotC150]

fuck the packers. We got fucking screwed at the end of this game, our wr was clearly being held, god I hate the packers.

How about the fumble that was called an interception that Greenway would have returned for a touchdown?

[superfan]

How about the fumble that was called an interception that Greenway would have returned for a touchdown?

I forgot about that terrible call also. We get fucking screwed by the refs so many times. Do they really have to stop the game to watch Brett favre celebrate his damn record breaking touchdown pass. They should stop next week's game for his record breaking INT so they can celebrate that record being broken.

[PilotC150]

I forgot about that terrible call also. We get fucking screwed by the refs so many times. Do they really have to stop the game to watch Brett favre celebrate his damn record breaking touchdown pass. They should stop next week's game for his record breaking INT so they can celebrate that record being broken.

Yea, sadly, I agree with that. It was only a little bit longer than a normal break between extra point and kickoff. It's huge record, and very impressive. I'm glad it wasn't longer, and I'm also glad the Vikings fans at the game were respectful.

[superfan]

I think were looking at a 4-12 team this year, I said it before the year, and now it may come true, sad to say!

[PipeandaCrepe]

god i love the packers

[MontaukNY]

^amen!

[PilotC150]

^amen!

People from states without any major league professional teams don't get an opinion! :p

[superfan]

god i love the packers

no:twenty4 :twenty4 :twenty4 :twenty4

[PipeandaCrepe]

People from states without any major league professional teams don't get an opinion! :p

:lol cheap shot

[ISU1648]

i HATE how we think we can get by without a quarterback. this is the most frustrating season ever. with the vikings its always been not whether i'll be disappointed, but when. but at least every other year the team gave me hope by having a quarterback.

I have a broken vaccuum cleaner at home. if kelly holcomb doesnt work out, maybe that could be quarterback. (office, anyone?)

and not to mention that adrian peterson is so severely under-used that it physically makes me sick. he's a stud, the first one the vikes have had since Moss. he could easily be in LT-caliber territory, yet childress wants to start chester taylor.

ugh, c'mon childress, act like you deserve the job you somehow got! 2007 is turning into a joke. the vikings could easily be 4-0 right now, and it falls directly on childress for being subpar at playcalling, and for not getting a quarterback this offseason. even after jackson threw 4 INT's week 2, byron leftwich was still just sititng out there for the taking.

vent session over.

[superfan]

i HATE how we think we can get by without a quarterback. this is the most frustrating season ever. with the vikings its always been not whether i'll be disappointed, but when. but at least every other year the team gave me hope by having a quarterback.

I have a broken vaccuum cleaner at home. if kelly holcomb doesnt work out, maybe that could be quarterback. (office, anyone?)

and not to mention that adrian peterson is so severely under-used that it physically makes me sick. he's a stud, the first one the vikes have had since Moss. he could easily be in LT-caliber territory, yet childress wants to start chester taylor.

ugh, c'mon childress, act like you deserve the job you somehow got! 2007 is turning into a joke. the vikings could easily be 4-0 right now, and it falls directly on childress for being subpar at playcalling, and for not getting a quarterback this offseason. even after jackson threw 4 INT's week 2, byron leftwich was still just sititng out there for the taking.

vent session over.

I hear your pain. I agree, Chilldress isn't using their only offensive star so far- Adrian Peterson. I don't understand why Peterson was barely used in the second half of the Packer game yesterday. Peterson had a great first half, then all of sudden they stopped using him which makes no sense. Why Mckinnie still on this team, that guy is complete shit. Its funny that you mention that this team could be 4-0, because we could. Our defense has kept us in every game this year and it willl continue to, all we need is two offensive td's a game and we could easily win games, Our defense is good enough at this point that we only need two scores on offense for a win.

Chilldress is a very fraustrating coach, he should be on the hot seat, if he isn't already. P.S. Chilldress start using your tight ends more also, like Shanacoe, he is big and strong, start using him more.

[swampdonkey]

Let me start by saying I'm a big Packer fan. I don't have a hatred for the Vikes neccessarily and can discuss the game without saying "God I hate the Vikings".

The thing about bad calls is that they go both ways. There were at least 2 pass interference calls that didn't get made against the Vikings and numerous offensive holds. Teams have to be able to overcome those calls to win and that's one of the things that seperate the good from the bad. It's just impossible for the officials to call a game 100% perfect. I've been on both sides of bad calls and I know how it feels though.

The Vikings definitely have some talent on defense, but there is no excuse for the way the secondary played. Their pass defense is terrible. I don't know if it is schematic or what, but they definitely have a problem in that area.

At least Adrian Peterson looks awesome...

[bigeyefish22]

Let me start by saying I'm a big Packer fan. I don't have a hatred for the Vikes neccessarily and can discuss the game without saying "God I hate the Vikings".

The thing about bad calls is that they go both ways. There were at least 2 pass interference calls that didn't get made against the Vikings and numerous offensive holds. Teams have to be able to overcome those calls to win and that's one of the things that seperate the good from the bad. It's just impossible for the officials to call a game 100% perfect. I've been on both sides of bad calls and I know how it feels though.

The Vikings definitely have some talent on defense, but there is no excuse for the way the secondary played. Their pass defense is terrible. I don't know if it is schematic or what, but they definitely have a problem in that area.

At least Adrian Peterson looks awesome...

In principle, I agree with this. But, the two big misses by the refs (that I saw) effected the game moreso than most missed pass interference (or whatever) calls: the clear pick on the vikes reciever leading to the GB interception and the GB fumble that was not challengable since the play was blown dead. As a Vikes fan, those hurt. I wouldnt say that MN would have won or even deserved to win in any case, but those calls would have given the Vikes a more fair shot. In the end the better team won, so what can you do...

The vikings secondary sucks. I dont think its scheme cause the same personnel, paired with an especially gifted coach, sucked last year. Winfield will make all the tackles in the world, but comes up just short on coverage to be elite; Griffin is overrated; Sharper has declined... something called Mcaulley? Terrible.

Childress is embarrassing. Really, very embarrassing. And, its early, so maybe we all end up eating our words and Chilly proves us wrong... I'll take that chance: he's inadequate and needs to go. I'm officially rooting for 4 things this year: AP has a monster season, Run D sets whatever all-time records are available to set, Vikes get a top 2 pick and Chilly gets canned. This is going to be painful. :BANG

[swampdonkey]

In principle, I agree with this. But, the two big misses by the refs (that I saw) effected the game moreso than most missed pass interference (or whatever) calls: the clear pick on the vikes reciever leading to the GB interception and the GB fumble that was not challengable since the play was blown dead. As a Vikes fan, those hurt. I wouldnt say that MN would have won or even deserved to win in any case, but those calls would have given the Vikes a more fair shot. In the end the better team won, so what can you do...

The vikings secondary sucks. I dont think its scheme cause the same personnel, paired with an especially gifted coach, sucked last year. Winfield will make all the tackles in the world, but comes up just short on coverage to be elite; Griffin is overrated; Sharper has declined... something called Mcaulley? Terrible.

Childress is embarrassing. Really, very embarrassing. And, its early, so maybe we all end up eating our words and Chilly proves us wrong... I'll take that chance: he's inadequate and needs to go. I'm officially rooting for 4 things this year: AP has a monster season, Run D sets whatever all-time records are available to set, Vikes get a top 2 pick and Chilly gets canned. This is going to be painful. :BANG

Nice post...good points.

[superfan]

In principle, I agree with this. But, the two big misses by the refs (that I saw) effected the game moreso than most missed pass interference (or whatever) calls: the clear pick on the vikes reciever leading to the GB interception and the GB fumble that was not challengable since the play was blown dead. As a Vikes fan, those hurt. I wouldnt say that MN would have won or even deserved to win in any case, but those calls would have given the Vikes a more fair shot. In the end the better team won, so what can you do...

The vikings secondary sucks. I dont think its scheme cause the same personnel, paired with an especially gifted coach, sucked last year. Winfield will make all the tackles in the world, but comes up just short on coverage to be elite; Griffin is overrated; Sharper has declined... something called Mcaulley? Terrible.

Childress is embarrassing. Really, very embarrassing. And, its early, so maybe we all end up eating our words and Chilly proves us wrong... I'll take that chance: he's inadequate and needs to go. I'm officially rooting for 4 things this year: AP has a monster season, Run D sets whatever all-time records are available to set, Vikes get a top 2 pick and Chilly gets canned. This is going to be painful. :BANG

I think with the pass defense some of it is scheme. We are trying to run the tampa 2, which Tomlin brought to us last year, adn Leslie Frazier is just tweaking it a little, but it is basically the same. I think it is scheme because you notice we always give the wide out a good 5-10 yards on every play. We never play bump and run like the Packers do, or like the redskins do, etc.. We are always allowing the reciever to catch the ball. That is what is killing us. I have been a die hard vikes fan for about 12 years and I must say I have never seen the vikes change their pass defense scheme, it is always the same, they always give the wideout a good 5-10 yards. Even when we had those playoffs teams of the late 90's with Denny Green, the defensive pass scheme was always the same, we allowed a shit load of yards. It will probably never change.

We have some talent in the secondary but most of the players in our secondary are in the wrong scheme and they get burned with it. Winfield is one of, if not the best tackling db in the game but he is (like you said) a two step away from the defender. I think Cedric Griffin's problem is that he is way too aggresive which is killing him, he is always guessing and over attacking defenders. Marcus McCauley is a rookie who is going through his bumps and bruises of a rookie year, he is a big db. I think he will be good some day just give him time. I think Sharper is still a lot better than what people think of him these days, he is no longer one of the best safties in the game but he still is always around the ball on every play, and he still knows where he has to be on the field but he is just slowing down and can't carry the defense on his own, which gives him a bad rap.

[superfan]

Tarvarus Jackson says he will be ready by Sunday, that is good news, I think I am one of the few supporters of him.

[bigeyefish22]

Tarvarus Jackson says he will be ready by Sunday, that is good news, I think I am one of the few supporters of him.

Even one of his very few supporters doesn't know how to spell his name. This says aLOT about Tavaris Jackson.

[ISU1648]

Even one of his very few supporters doesn't know how to spell his name. This says aLOT about Tavaris Jackson.

When youre trying to make other people look dumb by saying they dont spell a players name right....and then you spell it wrong too....you look like a huge jack ass. Its Tarvaris Jackson, btw.

[bigeyefish22]

When youre trying to make other people look dumb by saying they dont spell a players name right....and then you spell it wrong too....you look like a huge jack ass. Its Tarvaris Jackson, btw.

Or, that was kind of my point. People dont know his name because he is no good.

And it was a joke, so relax yourself.

[superfan]

Even one of his very few supporters doesn't know how to spell his name. This says aLOT about Tavaris Jackson.

sorry master almighty!

[Nick@Night]

TJ will give the Bears D at least 3 picks, one of which will be returned for a TD. Final score: 27-6 Bears.

[Nick@Night]

TJ once again looks horrible and Troy Williamson still needs to learn how to catch a pass.

[Tiduwho]

TJ once again looks horrible and Troy Williamson still needs to learn how to catch a pass.

At least he caught the one that really counted. Your secondary is....ick though.

[Nick@Night]

At least he caught the one that really counted. Your secondary is....ick though.
It's like watching AIDS spread through the body.

[Tiduwho]

Your buddy AP is pretty fast though...

[Nick@Night]

Chester Taylor should be doing his laundry.

[Nick@Night]

I think we have a winner in the "Who has less touch than Michael Vick?" contest.

[superfan]

Mckie got jacked up, that was awesome!

[Nick@Night]

Well, only we can piss a sure win down our legs......weak.

[superfan]

Well, only we can piss a sure win down our legs......weak.

you are a typical bandwagon Minnesota fan, it is annoying listening to you complain. I am so glad the Vikes won, wow what a finish.

[Nick@Night]

you are a typical bandwagon Minnesota fan, it is annoying listening to you complain. I am so glad the Vikes won, wow what a finish.
As a fan I have a right to complain, you don't fucking lose your intensity and blow a 14 point lead in the 4th quarter.

Edit: Yes, it's good they won, they sure didn't make it look good though. I love this team, but, TJ sucks balls, Childress still uses his Fisher Price clipboard to manage his player personnel, there's still a lot wrong.

[UNLTrpt]

god we need a QB.

[superfan]

another fraustrating loss. I really think 90% of our problem is our shitty offensive line. Ryan Cook, is a moron, he is on the special teams, and he can't get on the field when we are kicking a field goal, he is on special teams! Get on the field! Jackson was hurried 11 times, sacked twice. he threw the ball 18 times, that means almost 80% of the time he was running for his life, it is not all the QB's fault.

[Nick@Night]

another fraustrating loss. I really think 90% of our problem is our shitty offensive line. Ryan Cook, is a moron, he is on the special teams, and he can't get on the field when we are kicking a field goal, he is on special teams! Get on the field! Jackson was hurried 11 times, sacked twice. he threw the ball 18 times, that means almost 80% of the time he was running for his life, it is not all the QB's fault.
TJ sucks, end of story.

[superfan]

TJ sucks, end of story.


I support him, he has had 6 career starts, and he has a horrible coaching staff, give him more time.

[UNLTrpt]

another fraustrating loss. I really think 90% of our problem is our shitty offensive line. Ryan Cook, is a moron, he is on the special teams, and he can't get on the field when we are kicking a field goal, he is on special teams! Get on the field! Jackson was hurried 11 times, sacked twice. he threw the ball 18 times, that means almost 80% of the time he was running for his life, it is not all the QB's fault.

I know I know but it just doesn't seem like Jackson can make any throw that's over 20 yards. How many deep balls has he completed this year?

[UNLTrpt]

there isn't anything wrong with the coaching staff. good lord they've had a year and a half

[Nick@Night]

I support him, he has had 6 career starts, and he has a horrible coaching staff, give him more time.
He's been in the league now almost a year and a half and has shown no improvement whatsoever. He still doesn't know how to throw a route properly, at this point he'd at least put a ball where it's supposed to be more than once a season.
I know I know but it just doesn't seem like Jackson can make any throw that's over 20 yards. How many deep balls has he completed this year?
He made that one to Williamson against the Bears, his first deep pass completion ever.
there isn't anything wrong with the coaching staff. good lord they've had a year and a half
It will be up to the next coaching staff once this one gets shit-canned.

[superfan]

there isn't anything wrong with the coaching staff. good lord they've had a year and a half

Let me re-phrase my statement, Brad Chilldress is a horrible coach. Chilldress's caoaching approach and his different coaching schemes are terrible. I supported Chilldress all of last year, and I still support him to a small extend, but I really don't see any improvement from last year as a head coach. He hasn't changed anything. That is what bugs me. You have to learn to adjust, and going out and signing Bobby Wade as our top free agent in the offseason, that was just a joke. He is not a number one WR. He would be a good slot reciever, but he is being asked to be in a number one WR role, that is not what he is about.

[UNLTrpt]

Let me re-phrase my statement, Brad Chilldress is a horrible coach. Chilldress's caoaching approach and his different coaching schemes are terrible. I supported Chilldress all of last year, and I still support him to a small extend, but I really don't see any improvement from last year as a head coach. He hasn't changed anything. That is what bugs me. You have to learn to adjust, and going out and signing Bobby Wade as our top free agent in the offseason, that was just a joke. He is not a number one WR. He would be a good slot reciever, but he is being asked to be in a number one WR role, that is not what he is about.

what did our salary cap look like in the off season

[superfan]

what did our salary cap look like in the off season

If I recall, I think we were top 5 in the league with most money under the cap. I know we tried to sign Kevin curtis, and when that failed, we just completely gave up on signing anybody else. I know there wasn't a great free agent class, but there were still some very good players available, that we didn't even attempt to sign.

[UNLTrpt]

If I recall, I think we were top 5 in the league with most money under the cap. I know we tried to sign Kevin curtis, and when that failed, we just completely gave up on signing anybody else. I know there wasn't a great free agent class, but there were still some very good players available, that we didn't even attempt to sign.

i just think wanting a staff to get out of town only a year and a half in is a bit too soon.

[superfan]

i just think wanting a staff to get out of town only a year and a half in is a bit too soon.

I like some of the coaches that we have, its just Chilldress bugs me, he is too conservative. I like Frazier (Defensive coordinator), I like Eric Bienemy (our runningbacks coach) and some other coaches, its just Chilldress, and Darrell Bevel that bother me the most. I wil give them the rest of the season, and see what they can improve, or make better, but if I don't see any changes, I am gonna be pushing for a new coach, or at least a new coaching scheme/strategy.

[thom hudson]

tough loss yesterday.
tavaris jackson is downright horrid.

[ISU1648]

with a quarterback, we wouldve won yesterday.

tarvaris jackson should still have a mentor around (culpepper wouldve been a great signing t help with that). jackson could be good, but theres no way he could ever be "the guy" at this stage.

the vikes bad season ALL comes down to the fact that we didnt sign or trade for a good starting quarterback in the offseason.

and they were there. nobody to take us to the super bowl, but at least SOMETHING, and SOMEONE to start at QB while mentoring jackson. couldve been leftwich, trent green, culpepper, jeff garcia, matt schaub. There were options, and our lovely management settled on jackson. hope it teaches them a lesson anyways.

gotta love adrian peterson though. for as few touches as he gets, unbelievable.

APAD

[UNC41]

I support him, he has had 6 career starts, and he has a horrible coaching staff, give him more time.

He looks completely lost out there. It doesn't seem like he's even beginning to grasp the NFL game. I don't think there is any way he ends up as the long-term solution to the Vikings QB problem.

there isn't anything wrong with the coaching staff. good lord they've had a year and a half

Well, the fact that they don't know how to utilize the one offensive weapon the team has says just a bit ...

[Nick@Night]

At least we can say we aren't Miami.

[thom hudson]

yeah thanks nick.
i dont feel any better about the vikings 2007 suck fest.

[Nick@Night]

yeah thanks nick.
i dont feel any better about the vikings 2007 suck fest.
Neither do I.

[UNLTrpt]

Well, the fact that they don't know how to utilize the one offensive weapon the team has says just a bit ...

I dunno. I have mixed emotions about that. I understand them not wanting to use AP exclusively because an NFL team is better if they have two quality backs. It doesn't matter to me that he's #2 on the depth chart. But I too am confused how they're using him. Like splitting him out wide...that isn't making a hell of a lot of sense.

[UNC41]

At least we can say we aren't Miami.

And I'm first and foremost a Miami fan. :BANG

I dunno. I have mixed emotions about that. I understand them not wanting to use AP exclusively because an NFL team is better if they have two quality backs. It doesn't matter to me that he's #2 on the depth chart. But I too am confused how they're using him. Like splitting him out wide...that isn't making a hell of a lot of sense.

I don't think AD should be getting all of the carries, but they've got to find a way to get him more than 13 touches a game. I find it funny how the media is saying Dallas shut him down when he averaged more than 5 yards a carry on Sunday. And if Childress is worried about keeping AD healthy why is he still out there returning kicks, where he will get harder than on any offensive play.

[superfan]

Now T. Jackson may not be playing on Sunday, great now Holcomb will have to run for his life behind our shitty offensive line, oh wait he can't move. That is one thing I like about TJ, he can get out of the pocket, not Holcomb, he is a standing still duck.

[Nick@Night]

Now T. Jackson may not be playing on Sunday, great now Holcomb will have to run for his life behind our shitty offensive line, oh wait he can't move. That is one thing I like about TJ, he can get out of the pocket, not Holcomb, he is a standing still duck.
I heard a punchline today: The only people scared of Tarvaris Jackson are the Minnesota Vikings fans. :lol

[UNLTrpt]

today's game shows us two things

-Bollinger should be our starting QB

-Our oline blows

[superfan]

today's game shows us two things

-Bollinger should be our starting QB

-Our oline blows

it's about time someone agrees with me about our o-line, I have been bitching about that the past year and 1/2. Mckinnie get beat by anybody and everybody.

I am not sure if Chilldress can beat Les Steckle's wonderful franchise low in wins in one season (3-13)

[Nick@Night]

today's game shows us two things

-Bollinger should be our starting QB

-Our oline blows
Winning the starting job at QB for this team is like getting a medal at the special olympics.

[superfan]

I am glad to hear that Jackson will be starting at QB this weekend. What else can we lose? We already rushed him into the starting job, lets just keep throwing him into the fire and hopefully he will get better and learn from his mistakes, we can't give up on him after 6 career starts. The team is not gonna make the playoffs, so lets just play the season out and hope that we get rid of Chilldress.

[Nick@Night]

I'm ready to give up on Jackson.

[UNC41]

Jackson's career lives and dies with Childress, and vice versa.

[Nick@Night]

When they are both run out of town they can seek refuge in Canada.

[superfan]

Jackson's career lives and dies with Childress, and vice versa.

probably true. I just think Jackson could be a much better QB than he is right now, if they didn't rush him into being the starter so fast. I also think he could benefit from a way better coach. Chilldress is not a teacher what so ever. I wish we had a veteran QB on our bench or a former QB as a coach so they could teach him along. He doesn't have any of that to benefit from, it's just a horrible situation. We need to get rid of Chilldress and his ineffective west coast offense, and let Jackson be able to throw the ball more, that is what is holding him back.

[Nick@Night]

Or he could just be an awful QB.

[UNC41]

probably true. I just think Jackson could be a much better QB than he is right now, if they didn't rush him into being the starter so fast. I also think he could benefit from a way better coach. Chilldress is not a teacher what so ever. I wish we had a veteran QB on our bench or a former QB as a coach so they could teach him along. He doesn't have any of that to benefit from, it's just a horrible situation. We need to get rid of Chilldress and his ineffective west coast offense, and let Jackson be able to throw the ball more, that is what is holding him back.

The guy can't hit anyone downfield to save his life and misses easy throws on a regular basis and you want him to throw it more? And I am not big on Childress, but before coming to Minnesota he had only developed one QB to be an NFL starter and he did okay with McNabb. When you draft a guy with intentions of making him a franchise QB he generally is starting by his second year.

I'm curious, but what has Jackson shown to give you any belief he has what it takes to be an NFL quarterback?

[superfan]

The guy can't hit anyone downfield to save his life and misses easy throws on a regular basis and you want him to throw it more? And I am not big on Childress, but before coming to Minnesota he had only developed one QB to be an NFL starter and he did okay with McNabb. When you draft a guy with intentions of making him a franchise QB he generally is starting by his second year.

I'm curious, but what has Jackson shown to give you any belief he has what it takes to be an NFL quarterback?

first off the guy barely throws the ball, I don't blame him if he misses a reciever here or there. The only way he can improve as a QB is if you let him throw the ball more. He is very inexpierenced and that is definetly showing, but every good QB in the past and present only got better by getting the chance to open up and throw down the field. Plus when he has thrown this year he has barely thrown any INTs (except for the lions game) for the most part he is 90% mistake free when it come to turning over the ball.

You asked me what makes me believe he has what it takes to be an NFL QB. Well, I like the fact that he has good awareness of when the pocket is collapsing, he gets out of the pocket and throws it away, he does tend to throw it away for intentional grounding calls fairly often, but at least he isn't throwing INTs instead, that is a mistake a lot of young QBs do, is throw a lot of INTs.

[UNC41]

first off the guy barely throws the ball, I don't blame him if he misses a reciever here or there. The only way he can improve as a QB is if you let him throw the ball more. He is very inexpierenced and that is definetly showing, but every good QB in the past and present only got better by getting the chance to open up and throw down the field. Plus when he has thrown this year he has barely thrown any INTs (except for the lions game) for the most part he is 90% mistake free when it come to turning over the ball.

You asked me what makes me believe he has what it takes to be an NFL QB. Well, I like the fact that he has good awareness of when the pocket is collapsing, he gets out of the pocket and throws it away, he does tend to throw it away for intentional grounding calls fairly often, but at least he isn't throwing INTs instead, that is a mistake a lot of young QBs do, is throw a lot of INTs.

He hasn't thrown many INTs because he hasn't thrown the ball. His interception to pass ratio is high. And even when he's not turning the ball over there isn't a single pass Jackson has shown he can complete on a consistent basis.

[superfan]

He hasn't thrown many INTs because he hasn't thrown the ball. His interception to pass ratio is high. And even when he's not turning the ball over there isn't a single pass Jackson has shown he can complete on a consistent basis.

give him time, Peyton Manning went 3-13 his first year starting. I am not saying he is the next Manning, but just give him time! Vikings fans are the worst because they have no patience, it is irriatating! 99% of them have no clue what they want.

[UNC41]

give him time, Peyton Manning went 3-13 his first year starting. I am not saying he is the next Manning, but just give him time! Vikings fans are the worst because they have no patience, it is irriatating! 99% of them have no clue what they want.

I'm not a Vikings fan, so patience for success had nothing to do with it. The guy hasn't shown he can make NFL throws at all and I haven't seen anything to suggest he'll succeed. Childress put his ball in Jackson's court since the draft last year and will live and die on that decision.

[Nick@Night]

A.P. = :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup
T.J. = :thumbsdow:thumbsdow:thumbsdow

[Nick@Night]

give him time, Peyton Manning went 3-13 his first year starting. I am not saying he is the next Manning, but just give him time! Vikings fans are the worst because they have no patience, it is irriatating! 99% of them have no clue what they want.
A new QB.

[Nick@Night]

Peterson is amazing.

[amoore624426]

wow...u guys r very lucky to have peterson, its ashame u guys suck

[PilotC150]

wow...u guys r very lucky to have peterson, its ashame u guys suck

No, it's "a shame" we suck.

And actually, Bollinger didn't look half bad today. He didn't pass too much, but he looked confident when he was out there.

By the way, it's nice to have Peterson on my fantasy team. :)

[amoore624426]

By the way, it's nice to have Peterson on my fantasy team. :)

yup yup, he had 46 pts in one of my leagues, i wasnt going against him thank god!!!

[superfan]

wow, that game was so fun to be at. 3 NFL records were broken and one Vikings team record. What a thrilling game. I thought the game was gonna take a turn for the worse after the missed field goal return by the Chargers.

[HolyCow]

I. Love. AD.

[thom hudson]

Peterson is amazing.
:thumbsup quoted for troof.
he is the man.

[Shagadelic]

AP funna get broooooooke :rolleyes

[thom hudson]

how come this thread is still not in the sports forum area?

[UNC41]

AP funna get broooooooke :rolleyes

Broke as in 100+ yards in the first half like earlier this year?

[Nick@Night]

AP will make Lambeau his bitch.

[UNLTrpt]

And actually, Bollinger didn't look half bad today. He didn't pass too much, but he looked confident when he was out there.

Bollinger should really be the starter for the rest of the year.

[Nick@Night]

Bollinger should really be the starter for the rest of the year.
Should be. Won't be.

[UNLTrpt]

McNabb to the Vikings in the offseason.

Hmmm, interesting.

[superfan]

McNabb to the Vikings in the offseason.

Hmmm, interesting.

what, just another rumor. I've heard that one before.

on the side note, I am waiting to hear back from your school Nebraska University, to see if I have been accepted. What a long wait!

[UNLTrpt]

what, just another rumor. I've heard that one before.

on the side note, I am waiting to hear back from your school Nebraska University, to see if I have been accepted. What a long wait!

I guess it never crossed my mind.

And its the University of Nebraska. I'm guessing you applied to Lincoln? If you want any info on the college let me know.

[superfan]

I guess it never crossed my mind.

And its the University of Nebraska. I'm guessing you applied to Lincoln? If you want any info on the college let me know.

yeah, University of Nebraska in Lincoln. Yeah, could you hook me up with some info on the college?

I also just got accepted at Wayne State University (it's about 2 and 1/2 hours north of Lincoln in Nebraska)

[UNLTrpt]

yeah, University of Nebraska in Lincoln. Yeah, could you hook me up with some info on the college?

I also just got accepted at Wayne State University (it's about 2 and 1/2 hours north of Lincoln in Nebraska)

I'm familiar with Wayne State.

Any info you want in particular? PM me.

[MontaukNY]

shutout anyone?

[Aubrie]

shutout anyone?

Like there was no doubt. I'm a Vikes fan and even betted against them, and they didnt let me down! :lol

Favre is on fire. Dang Cheeseheads....

[superfan]

another fraustrating game. Hope Peterson is fine.

[Nick@Night]

I love Brad Childress.

[thom hudson]

:thumbsdow awful.
favre is out of control.

[UNLTrpt]

if Chester Taylor can run for 160 on Oakland, how many would AP have put on them?

A win is a win is a win.

[Aubrie]

Yay. 3-6 baby.

[superfan]

you can't forget about Chester Taylor, too many people around here have forgotten about Taylor, he is a very solid back. He ran for 1200 yards last year, he is a capable backup/starting back in this league.

Culpepper played well, he still has a cannon for an arm!

[UNLTrpt]

Yay. 3-6 baby.

actually we're 4-6

[Aubrie]

actually we're 4-6

oops. you're right. wasnt paying attention...

[Nick@Night]

Sidney Rice is a better QB than Tarvaris.

[thom hudson]

chester taylor stepped up big time today...good bounce back win.

[superfan]

another int for td, wow!:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

[Aubrie]

Take that Giants.

[superfan]

that 4th down play for the Giants was extremely ugly, just like the whole game for the Giants.

[Aubrie]

Nice win Vikes! 5-6

[cryfreedom4136]

Nice win Vikes! 5-6

The Vikes are right back in the Wild Card hunt now, good for them... hopefully this will shut up all the people claiming that the Giants are an elite team

[superfan]

The Vikes are right back in the Wild Card hunt now, good for them... hopefully this will shut up all the people claiming that the Giants are an elite team

I agree, and now looking at the schedule for the rest of the year, we have a good shot at winning that wildcard spot. Although I don't want to jump to conclusions so soon.

[GinaNMU]

Thanks to the Vikings defense for assuring my fantasy victory this week :D

[PilotC150]

Thanks to the Vikings defense for assuring my fantasy victory this week :D

The real question is, why would anybody actually pick up the Vikings D for a fantasy team?

[Gravedigger81]

its official everyone was overating the giants. Think about there wins this season. A miracle goal line stand against the redskins, beat the hapless niners, the pathetic dolphins, the falcons lol, the eagles without brian westbrook, the pathetic jets, okay finally they beat the lions we'll give them that one.

Then the loses
GB
Dallas twice
Vikings

It adds up to really not being that good.

[thom hudson]

nice win today
lets keep it going - AP is back next week :D

[superfan]

nice win today
lets keep it going - AP is back next week :D

yeah, lets hope that it isn't a mistake rushing back AP. Everyone is gonna be targeting his knee.

[malarks26]

nice win today
lets keep it going - AP is back next week :D

I think it's a huge mistake if they rush this kid back. He IS your franchise and to bring him back a week or two early just doesn't make much sense IMO. Chester Taylor is doing a great job stepping in for the time being, let him keep running with it and let AP get completely healed.

[Nick@Night]

yeah, lets hope that it isn't a mistake rushing back AP. Everyone is gonna be targeting his knee.

I think it's a huge mistake if they rush this kid back. He IS your franchise and to bring him back a week or two early just doesn't make much sense IMO. Chester Taylor is doing a great job stepping in for the time being, let him keep running with it and let AP get completely healed.
You guys see him working out before the game? He's running around like there's nothing wrong, plus he gets another week to get it ready.

[superfan]

I think it's a huge mistake if they rush this kid back. He IS your franchise and to bring him back a week or two early just doesn't make much sense IMO. Chester Taylor is doing a great job stepping in for the time being, let him keep running with it and let AP get completely healed.

That's what I'm saying. I really wouldn't mind if AP doesn't play at all the rest of the year. They need him to get 100% healthy. I just have a feeling he is gonna get re-injured and it could be a serious blow.

This is exactly what happened to Francisco Liriano of the twins two years ago. he got hurt, the twins started to make a push for the playoffs, so they rushed Liriano back and he got re-injured. Which led to tommy john surgery, he may never be the same player as he was before the injury.

[malarks26]

You guys see him working out before the game? He's running around like there's nothing wrong, plus he gets another week to get it ready.

I saw that, but running around testing it out before a game is completely different from actual game play. The RB position is not the problem for the Vikes right now, it's the QB position. I say rest him one more week just to be safe. Remember, you don't want to mess that knee up even worse and then have his entire career go up in smoke.

[Nick@Night]

That's what I'm saying. I really wouldn't mind if AP doesn't play at all the rest of the year. They need him to get 100% healthy. I just have a feeling he is gonna get re-injured and it could be a serious blow.

This is exactly what happened to Francisco Liriano of the twins two years ago. he got hurt, the twins started to make a push for the playoffs, so they rushed Liriano back and he got re-injured. Which led to tommy john surgery, he may never be the same player as he was before the injury.
Those who get Tommy John surgery also have the possibility of coming back better than they were before the injury, so looking at this as a bad thing is premature.

[Nick@Night]

I saw that, but running around testing it out before a game is completely different from actual game play. The RB position is not the problem for the Vikes right now, it's the QB position. I say rest him one more week just to be safe. Remember, you don't want to mess that knee up even worse and then have his entire career go up in smoke.
In theory, any guy on the field at any time can have their knee torn up, regardless of it was injured the weeks before or has been healthy their entire life. If he's ready to go they should let him go.

[dmbgodagirl41]

I think it's a huge mistake if they rush this kid back. He IS your franchise and to bring him back a week or two early just doesn't make much sense IMO. Chester Taylor is doing a great job stepping in for the time being, let him keep running with it and let AP get completely healed.

Taylor has just as good a chance of being injured as AP, so the whole "he might get hurt" argument isn't really too valid here.
Plus, the Vikes have a chance to make the playoffs. With the win against NY, that puts them at 6-5 which is currently the second wild card spot in the NFC. If AP comes back in and switches with Taylor for time, rather than go all-out the first week back, that'd be perfect.

[Nick@Night]

Taylor has just as good a chance of being injured as AP, so the whole "he might get hurt" argument isn't really too valid here.
Plus, the Vikes have a chance to make the playoffs. With the win against NY, that puts them at 6-5 which is currently the second wild card spot in the NFC. If AP comes back in and switches with Taylor for time, rather than go all-out the first week back, that'd be perfect.
Vikes are 5-6. :cool

[malarks26]

Vikes are 5-6. :cool

I was gonna say....what's she smokin' tonight?! :lol

[dmbgodagirl41]

Vikes are 5-6. :cool

they are?! how the hell did i get that one mixed up?

Still, they still have a chance at the playoffs...sorta :lol

Edit: Mixed them up with Detroit. Whoops!

[Nick@Night]

they are?! how the hell did i get that one mixed up?

Still, they still have a chance at the playoffs...sorta :lol

Edit: Mixed them up with Detroit. Whoops!
The chance at the playoffs is right.

[malarks26]

Hell, everybody with more than 4 wins has a chance at the playoffs in the NFC this year!

[superfan]

Hell, everybody with more than 4 wins has a chance at the playoffs in the NFC this year!

yeah, it is a joke how even most of these teams are. I really think the Cowboys are the only good team in the NFC. Green Bay can't hold a candle to Dallas.

[Nick@Night]

yeah, it is a joke how even most of these teams are. I really think the Cowboys are the only good team in the NFC. Green Bay can't hold a candle to Dallas.
At least we'll find out in a few days, prior to a playoff matchup.

[malarks26]

At least we'll find out in a few days, prior to a playoff matchup.

Should be a decent game, but I agree...the Pack can't hang with Dallas' big plays on offense.

[Nick@Night]

Should be a decent game, but I agree...the Pack can't hang with Dallas' big plays on offense.
Brett will have to dig deep in to the voo-doo bag that has his team 10-1 for this game to go well.

[malarks26]

Brett will have to dig deep in to the voo-doo bag that has his team 10-1 for this game to go well.

He throws 3 INTs in the game and 1 gets taken to the house for a TD. It'll be all Cowboys in that one.

[superfan]

Should be a decent game, but I agree...the Pack can't hang with Dallas' big plays on offense.

Should be a good game, but wait nobody can watch it because it is on that stupid NFL Network. The network in which Jerry Jones has publicly ripped on numerous times.

[Nick@Night]

Should be a good game, but wait nobody can watch it because it is on that stupid NFL Network. The network in which Jerry Jones has publicly ripped on numerous times.
I'll be able to. ;)

[superfan]

I'll be able to. ;)

wow, you're one of the few people that can see this matchup. The NFL Network is a joke.

[Nick@Night]

wow, you're one of the few people that can see this matchup. The NFL Network is a joke.
You'd think they would have been able to take a match-up like this and put it on a prime time channel, unless NFL network took the rights and doesn't want to give it up.

[dmbgodagirl41]

so question: is the NFL network up near the movie channels? I look through shizz once in a while, and there's a channel that says NFL Network, but I don't pay for it, it's included in my cable...

is that odd?

[Nick@Night]

so question: is the NFL network up near the movie channels? I look through shizz once in a while, and there's a channel that says NFL Network, but I don't pay for it, it's included in my cable...

is that odd?
The Dish package I have has the NFL network included, it was the same when I had Comcast when I had my apartment.

[Nick@Night]

AP is looking really good everyone.

[UNLTrpt]

Is it me or is Tavarius playing much better lately?

[Nick@Night]

Is it me or is Tavarius playing much better lately?
He's showing no fear in running these last few weeks.

[collinsat12]

He's showing no fear in running these last few weeks.It is more than that. He has been passing a lot better too.

[Nick@Night]

It is more than that. He has been passing a lot better too.
I know, but I think that running is giving him more confidence with his passing.

[collinsat12]

I know, but I think that running is giving him more confidence with his passing.the team's running game or his personal running game?

[Nick@Night]

the team's running game or his personal running game?
His, he used to stay in the pocket too much before so he may have been questioning his own decision making. Now that he appears to be more comfortable running the ball himself he's more relaxed throwing to his receivers and it's showing.

[collinsat12]

I wish he would slide a little more. He has already gotten hurt three times this season.

[UNLTrpt]

He's showing no fear in running these last few weeks.

10/13 for 111 yds 2TD 22 yds rushing in the first half.

LW: 10/12 for 129 yds 1TD 38 yds rushing
@ Oak: 17/22 for 171 yds 1 INT

He's not lighting it up through the air but he's not losing the game. And with AP and Chester, he doesn't have to do a whole hell of a lot. Will he lead us to the playoffs this year? Probably not, but it certainly makes his future here a little bit more encouraging.

[collinsat12]

10/13 for 111 yds 2TD 22 yds rushing in the first half.

LW: 10/12 for 129 yds 1TD 38 yds rushing
@ Oak: 17/22 for 171 yds 1 INT

He's not lighting it up through the air but he's not losing the game. And with AP and Chester, he doesn't have to do a whole hell of a lot. Will he lead us to the playoffs this year? Probably not, but it certainly makes his future here a little bit more encouraging.I agree. Up to these last few weeks however, he hadn't even shown that he can manage games. I'm glad he has taken the next step. No playoffs this year, but I'm hopeful for next year.

[collinsat12]

Peterson has 80 yards rushing on only 10 carries. Not bad for his first week back and sharing time with Chester Taylor.

[Tiduwho]

Peterson has 80 yards rushing on only 10 carries. Not bad for his first week back and sharing time with Chester Taylor.

8 yards a carry? That's it?


Chester has 8.3 ypc.

[superfan]

the vikes look great right now. Jackson started out 6 for 6 in passing. I think he is 8 for 10 right now. I think all of the Jackson haters are starting to change their opinion of him. I have stood by him all year long. Peterson hasn't lost a step. I hope we put 50 on the lions, that would be sweet!

[UNLTrpt]

I agree. Up to these last few weeks however, he hadn't even shown that he can manage games. I'm glad he has taken the next step. No playoffs this year, but I'm hopeful for next year.

And hell, we can't even count the playoffs this year. Yeah its unlikely but with the way the Offense is starting to click and the D creating turnovers left and right. Add on to that we'll move to .500, and our last 4 games (SF, Chi, Denver, Wash) we can't rule it out.

[Nick@Night]

AP made that defender look completely foolish on that last run. Burn!

[superfan]

AP made that defender look completely foolish on that last run. Burn!

yeah, looking at the replay of that run, all I can say is that defender was totally frozen!

[collinsat12]

Now it looks like AP is done for the day.


edit: not a bad day.

[superfan]

man we are really digging deep into our bag of tricks

[Nick@Night]

Where did these Vikings come from? First mistake of the day was that pick.

[collinsat12]

Where did these Vikings come from? First mistake of the day was that pick.Minnesota.

[Nick@Night]

Minnesota.
Brilliant. :thumbsup

[UNC41]

the vikes look great right now. Jackson started out 6 for 6 in passing. I think he is 8 for 10 right now. I think all of the Jackson haters are starting to change their opinion of him. I have stood by him all year long. Peterson hasn't lost a step. I hope we put 50 on the lions, that would be sweet!

I'm not a Vikings fan, but was very critical watching him every week. The guy is proving me, and many others, wrong right now. I don't know where it came from, but since coming back in the Oakland game his pocket presence has come out of nowhere. I think that's the biggest key to his turnaround.

[HolyCow]

AP made that defender look completely foolish on that last run. Burn!
Those that know him best call him AD. Just so you know.

And how awesome is AD? My word, I love that man.

[Nick@Night]

Those that know him best call him AD. Just so you know.

And how awesome is AD? My word, I love that man.
In the papers here he's only called AD, so I sure know.

[UNLTrpt]

Those that know him best call him AD. Just so you know.

And how awesome is AD? My word, I love that man.

In Minnesota he's AP. ;) :lol

My new man crush is on Adrian. He is simply amazing.

[dmbgodagirl41]

At least AP didn't nickname himself "Megatron".

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Thanks for knocking those Lions back for us Bears.

Jackson was looking almost Micheal Vick like today.

He ran quite a bit.

And...Adrian Peterson is the man.

[superfan]

I can't believe the bears lost. I was at work and I was on break when the giants were down 16-7 with 8 minutes left, then about an hour later I called my friend and told me that they lost, I was schocked. Thanks Giants!:thumbsup

[HolyCow]

In Minnesota he's AP. ;) :lol

My new man crush is on Adrian. He is simply amazing.
:lol

Now you know how we felt in Norman for three years. AD has such a way about him... it's impossible to not fall in love with him. Even non-fans love him. He's humble. He's hard-working. He's a team first kind of guy. And, he is flat out amazing.

[superfan]

The Vikes and Redskins game (dec. 23rd) got moved to Sunday night. I am happy to hear that, I will be there rooting the Vikes to victory.

side not: another good win for the vikes yesterday

[EddieW33]

...and to think, they could have won that game early in the season at Detroit and they would be 8-5, and one game away from locking up the playoff spot...

Well, all of this improvement is coming a few games sooner than I expected - it would be nice to win out and be on a 6 game win streak going into the playoffs...BUT, let's just get another win this week - BIG game on Monday night v. Bears...

[collinsat12]

It was nice to see the Vikings can win when a team shuts down Peterson...

[thom hudson]

hell yes.
tavaris jackson actually has been looking like a halfway decent QB the past few weeks, too

so glad i get to see the game next monday without having to go to the bar :D

[collinsat12]

hell yes.
tavaris jackson actually has been looking like a halfway decent QB the past few weeks, too

so glad i get to see the game next monday without having to go to the bar :Dwhat is wrong with going to the bar?

[superfan]

It was nice to see the Vikings can win when a team shuts down Peterson...


yeah, I am so glad we haven't forgotten about Chester Taylor, he has been great off the bench.

[thom hudson]

what is wrong with going to the bar?
1. no vikes fans in NYC
2. im not a big drinker
3. can't hit the bowl at the bar :lol

[collinsat12]

yeah, I am so glad we haven't forgotten about Chester Taylor, he has been great off the bench.Taylor started on Sunday.

1. no vikes fans in NYC
2. im not a big drinker
3. can't hit the bowl at the bar :lolOh I see. :lol

[superfan]

Taylor started on Sunday.

Oh I see. :lol

well he has been the backup for most of the year. I didn't know that Taylor started on Sunday, I was at work, which sucked.

[PilotC150]

Taylor started on Sunday.


Being "starter" is just a title. They split the work. There's really no "starting" RB on this team.

[UNLTrpt]

I didn't think we played all that well in the 2nd half but we got it done in the first half and it was enough to get past the lowly niners. And as said above, its good to see us win when someone shuts down AP.

...and to think, they could have won that game early in the season at Detroit and they would be 8-5, and one game away from locking up the playoff spot...

And not even the Detroit game. We gave away the chiefs game, and could have won the 1st GB game. Led the Dallas game at the half and we were in the Philly game too. The only game we really have been blown out in was the 2nd GB game. This team could easily be one or two games better than what they are now.

[Xmasjjm]

To me the biggest issue now for the Vikings is talent. We need a TE who can catch and better receivers for starters. It's nice to see that the team has a personality now. Let's see if they can keep it going...

[superfan]

To me the biggest issue now for the Vikings is talent. We need a TE who can catch and better receivers for starters. It's nice to see that the team has a personality now. Let's see if they can keep it going...

Shancoe is a good TE, they just never throw it to him. They use him way too much for blocking, I guess that is understandble because our o-line is pretty shitty at times (Bryant Mckinnie)

We control our own destiny into the playoffs, let's do it vikes.

[collinsat12]

I don't mind McKinnie... I think he was worth the first round draft pick back in 02

[PilotC150]

I don't mind McKinnie... I think he was worth the first round draft pick back in 02

He's been very slow off the line all year. Not very good for pass protection.

[collinsat12]

I think that defenses have just been attacking him more since we got Hutch...

that is what I would do if I was a defensive coordinator.

[superfan]

I don't mind McKinnie... I think he was worth the first round draft pick back in 02

wow.... He is one of the worst players on the team. He has feet like they are stuck in cement. He is a horrible pass blocker. He gets beat by every small DE. Every small DE just runs underneath his block because he can't get low on defenders to block them. He is a decent run blocker, I wouldn't say that he is a great run blocker, that would a stretch. Birk and Hutchinson are what makes our o-line.

[superfan]

big game tonight for the vikes!

[thom hudson]

<--- pumped as hell

[collinsat12]

come on Vikes!

[wxdudes]

vikes 34
bears 13

AD: 146 rush yds.

:hump

[Aubrie]

Go Vikes GO!!!!!!!

[superfan]

Where you all gonna be watching the game at? I am gonna go over to a friends house, he is back from college for break so it will be a good time.

I also see that Peterson is second in the league in rushing yards now.

[thom hudson]

i'll be racing home from my dentist appointment tonight to watch the game at home...can't wait to see peterson make fools out of the bears' defense.

when can we get this thread moved over to the tailgate?

[Aubrie]

Yeah, no shit!

I'll be watching from the comfort of my own home.

[bigeyefish22]

Am I the only Vikes fan worried about this game? I just think we'll letdown one of the next 2 games (@Wash)... Im not sure why. I think all the attention we're getting is a little over-inflated. We didn't beat anybody but the Giants, and if you've followed FB for the last 7 years you know that the Giants are streaky as hell and would lose to Miami if they were in one of their requisite 3-game losing streaks.

I also have no trust in Jackson, still. He has succeeded mostly by throwing short, safe passes, with an occassional downfield throw in there. His long range accuracy still blows. Our receivers... are actually looking allright.

Not to be too negative, these aer just my worries (and our pass defense - thats a worry too) because Im a stupid #ucking die-hard who always gets overly optimistic but worried when we're doing well....

[thom hudson]

Am I the only Vikes fan worried about this game? I just think we'll letdown one of the next 2 games (@Wash)... Im not sure why. I think all the attention we're getting is a little over-inflated. We didn't beat anybody but the Giants, and if you've followed FB for the last 7 years you know that the Giants are streaky as hell and would lose to Miami if they were in one of their requisite 3-game losing streaks.

I also have no trust in Jackson, still. He has succeeded mostly by throwing short, safe passes, with an occassional downfield throw in there. His long range accuracy still blows. Our receivers... are actually looking allright.

Not to be too negative, these aer just my worries (and our pass defense - thats a worry too) because Im a stupid #ucking die-hard who always gets overly optimistic but worried when we're doing well....
completely understandable. we'll see if TJ has just been getting lucky.
but just have faith. nothing else you can do.

[superfan]

Am I the only Vikes fan worried about this game? I just think we'll letdown one of the next 2 games (@Wash)... Im not sure why. I think all the attention we're getting is a little over-inflated. We didn't beat anybody but the Giants, and if you've followed FB for the last 7 years you know that the Giants are streaky as hell and would lose to Miami if they were in one of their requisite 3-game losing streaks.

I also have no trust in Jackson, still. He has succeeded mostly by throwing short, safe passes, with an occassional downfield throw in there. His long range accuracy still blows. Our receivers... are actually looking allright.

Not to be too negative, these aer just my worries (and our pass defense - thats a worry too) because Im a stupid #ucking die-hard who always gets overly optimistic but worried when we're doing well....

I am also worried about this game, the bears are never an easy win for the vikes.

[thom hudson]

i certainly wont take this game lightly, but the vikes have been playing well as a team lately. and when they do that, they are fantastic.

[superfan]

Another big win for the vikes!! They didn't play well but they got the win and that is all that counts. Next up: The Redskins!

[UNLTrpt]

ugly ugly ugly UGLY.

But a win is a win.

[collinsat12]

a win is a win.


go vikes go!

[thom hudson]

ugly ugly ugly UGLY.

But a win is a win.
exactly. :thumbsup

but it certainly wasn't pretty. chicago did a great job of shutting down AP for the most part. TJ was pretty awful, too...but like you said, a win is a win :D

[41ravens]

you guys have the scariest team in the nfc right now. who would've thought that redskins @ vikings would be the game of the week for week 16?

[bigeyefish22]

Just stack up against the run and make Tarvaris beat you. And never run on offense - pass every play. Thats how you beat the Vikes...

Im worried about Washington, but at least Gibbs is coaching (isnt it sad that that's now a positive for the other team?)

[superfan]

Just stack up against the run and make Tarvaris beat you. And never run on offense - pass every play. Thats how you beat the Vikes...

Im worried about Washington, but at least Gibbs is coaching (isnt it sad that that's now a positive for the other team?)

yeah, that is exactly how you can beat us. We have too many young players in key areas of our team.

[superfan]

Any Ants gonna be at the Vikes-Skins game on Sunday? I will be there, lower deck behind the field goal post. I love going to Vikes games, that place gets so loud, I love it. This will be my second game this year, I was at the charger-vikes game earlier this year.

[thom hudson]

Any Ants gonna be at the Vikes-Skins game on Sunday? I will be there, lower deck behind the field goal post. I love going to Vikes games, that place gets so loud, I love it. This will be my second game this year, I was at the charger-vikes game earlier this year.
can't make it. wish i could, but i will be home - in NYC :lol

GO VIKES!!

[thom hudson]

YES! We finally made it to the Tailgate!! :lol

[FunkyTeaParty]

I know the Vike don't get enough respect.

I don't want to be party to that.

[UNLTrpt]

woot!

in the sports forum!

[thom hudson]

w00t w000000t

[superfan]

I know the Vike don't get enough respect.

I don't want to be party to that.

yeah the vikes never get enough respect, it is annoying to. I hate how everyone is in love with the twins in Minnesota, but they could care less about the Vikings. Even when the Twins are bad they still have tons of fans, when the vikings are bad no one in this town cares. Minnesota has the worst fans, tons and tons of bandwagon fans.

[HolyCow]

I may be slipping into Vikings fandom because of one man. I found myself rooting more for the Vikes than the Bears Monday and I've been a Bears fan for a long time.

[dmbdreamingtree]

I may be slipping into Vikings fandom because of one man. I found myself rooting more for the Vikes than the Bears Monday and I've been a Bears fan for a long time.

Kelly Holcomb?

[FunkyTeaParty]

Pat Williams swallowing up Garrett Wolfe and throwing him to the ground like a 7-year old may be my favorite part of the season so far.

[UNLTrpt]

Kelly Holcomb?

:lol

[UNLTrpt]

We're in with a win and a New Orleans loss. They play Philly here shortly.

Go Iggles!

[jordonh]

Im cheering for the vikings but its bad news if the saints win and the vikes lose to the redskins. I think both teams pass them then.

[Nick@Night]

If we finish with the same record as the Redskins they win the tie-breaker.

[UNLTrpt]

Philly helped us out today now we just have to take care of business.

[PilotC150]

So can the Vikings actually play a clean game tonight, or will Jackson turn the ball over four times again?

[DmBand801]

please win tonight so norman smiley will leave the giant thread with all his "redskins are the best" bullshit rambling

[clayj41]

Well, I hate the Vikes but I need Peterson to have a similar game to his record setting performance against the Chargers for me to advance in one of my fantasy leagues...