Devin Hester = Most Exciting Player In NFL

[hawks10]

SSIA...discuss

Seriously, this guy is fucking ridiculous. Everyone knows what he did last year, 6 returns for TD (plus one in Super Bowl)...

Yesterday he "officially" had 1 return TD, had another 95 yrd TD return called back for holding, and took another punt over 50 yards down to the 20. The guy pretty much has a 50/50 shot of taking every kick back. No one else in the NFL is as dangerous as Hester...

[DMB0715]

He's really good, but in no way the most exciting. That title belongs to Micheal Vick, errr....

[cbotnyse]

His run back in the Super Bowl was, by far, my most exhilarating moment in all of sports. He is the most exciting player in the NFL. The only bad thing is, he will get kicked to less and less.

[chevman]

He's like NEON DION!

[Styx Cover Band]

His run back in the Super Bowl was, by far, my most exhilarating moment in all of sports. He is the most exciting player in the NFL. The only bad thing is, he will get kicked to less and less.

When they start putting Danielle Manning back there with Hester on kick offs look out

[hawks10]

The only bad thing is, he will get kicked to less and less.

That's what I keep thinking, but yesterday they kept on kicking to him...maybe it was pride on the part of the Chiefs but I think it is stupid for any team to kick to him even once!

[UNC41]

He's sick and by far the best return man in football, but to say he has a 50/50 shot of taking back every kick is laughable.

[cbotnyse]

That's what I keep thinking, but yesterday they kept on kicking to him...maybe it was pride on the part of the Chiefs but I think it is stupid for any team to kick to him even once!yeah I was shocked they kicked to him after he ran back the punt, and then he ran back a damn kickoff! :eek :eek :eek I wish that would have held up.

[hawks10]

He's sick and by far the best return man in football, but to say he has a 50/50 shot of taking back every kick is laughable.

except for the fact that he pretty much takes back 50% of the kicks that he actually returns (not counting fair catches, out of bounds kicks, etc...) I know it probably really isnt 50%, but there is no denying that he is a threat everytime he touches the ball and by far the best Bears offensive player (even though he isnt really a o-player, cept for a couple plays here and there)

[UNC41]

except for the fact that he pretty much takes back 50% of the kicks that he actually returns (not counting fair catches, out of bounds kicks, etc...) I know it probably really isnt 50%, but there is no denying that he is a threat everytime he touches the ball and by far the best Bears offensive player (even though he isnt really a o-player, cept for a couple plays here and there)

It's somewhere from 10-20%, which is still ridiculous. Although part of me really dislikes Hester because he caused Miami to reach for Ginn too early this year.

[cbotnyse]

It's somewhere from 10-20%, which is still ridiculous.I was gonna say that too, but its impossible to put a number on it. But if he doesnt fair catch one has has at least a 5-10 yard cushion, there is no bigger threat in the NFL to take it back.

[saygdbye4134]

without a doubt.

be jealous.

[hawks10]

Plain and simple, its just fun as hell to watch him play. Soldier Field is electric when the defense forces a 4th down cause we all know that Hester is coming on to the field. There were 3 standing ovations that I saw at the game yesterday. No one on the team gets more fan reaction than Hester...and deservedly so!

[DMBZeppelin]

I wish he had held onto that screen pass yesterday. With a lot of open field in front him, he'd have been gone. It will probably take Hester till next year at being a good reciever. I still don't know how Hester knew to jump to avoid that tackle from behind yesterday.

[hawks10]

I wish he had held onto that screen pass yesterday. With a lot of open field in front him, he'd have been gone. It will probably take Hester till next year at being a good reciever. I still don't know how Hester knew to jump to avoid that tackle from behind yesterday.

That was amazing when he hurdled that tackler coming from behind!! Seriously, how did he know he was coming...that guy has some sick senses!!!

[swampdonkey]

A kick returner is the most exciting player in the NFL?

LT, Chad Johnson, Terrel Owens, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning and a myriad of other players are more "exciting" to me than this guy. I don't want to discredit what Hester has done, because it is impressive. However, keep in mind this happens every few years with a kick returner. Dante Hall is a good example. They are flashes in the pan.....

[seekupig]

That's what I keep thinking, but yesterday they kept on kicking to him...maybe it was pride on the part of the Chiefs but I think it is stupid for any team to kick to him even once!

you would think that a team that had Dante Hall doing a few years back what Hester is doing now would know better..... :BANG

[jmkratt]

A kick returner is the most exciting player in the NFL?

LT, Chad Johnson, Terrel Owens, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning and a myriad of other players are more "exciting" to me than this guy. I don't want to discredit what Hester has done, because it is impressive. However, keep in mind this happens every few years with a kick returner. Dante Hall is a good example. They are flashes in the pan.....

Well said :thumbsup

Even with Hester I don't consider the Bears the most exciting team...by far. Waiting for kick and punt returns is not enough to keep me interested in the game.

[Tiduwho]

He's like NEON DION!

Deion Sanders is actually Hester's personal mentor.




It's too bad that other one was called back. I can't help but smile at the people that keep trying to make him out to be Dante Hall 2.0.

[Tiduwho]

Well said :thumbsup

Even with Hester I don't consider the Bears the most exciting team...by far. Waiting for kick and punt returns is not enough to keep me interested in the game.

Well Jesus, I don't think anyone in their right mind would say they even come close. Lol, the talk's just about Hester. :)

[jmkratt]

Well Jesus, I don't think anyone in their right mind would say they even come close. Lol, the talk's just about Hester. :)

Fair enough :cool You're right.

It would be nice if Hester could be utilized more on offense in additional to Special Teams though.

[hawks10]

Well said :thumbsup

Even with Hester I don't consider the Bears the most exciting team...by far. Waiting for kick and punt returns is not enough to keep me interested in the game.

Oh definately not...I am a huge Bears fan, and even I will admit they have looked like shit the first 2 games, and they are nowhere near being the most exciting team...but Hester IS the most exciting player to watch in the NFL

[seekupig]

It's too bad that other one was called back. I can't help but smile at the people that keep trying to make him out to be Dante Hall 2.0.

Dante was pretty exciting in his own right.... like this game winner vs. Denver....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rZay_Je-YQo

[Tiduwho]

Fair enough :cool You're right.

It would be nice if Hester could be utilized more on offense in additional to Special Teams though.

Yeah, he'll get his chances. Could've had a potential TD if he caught the screen pass yesterday, it was a one-step drop and Hester looked like he wasn't expecting the ball yet and it went right through his hands. He had a lot of open field in front of him....

Oh well. The Bears will need him (and Greg Olsen) to make some plays next week if they're going to beat Dallas.

[swampdonkey]

I can't help but smile at the people that keep trying to make him out to be Dante Hall 2.0.

The difference between Hester and Deon is that Deon was actually a great football player...not just a great kick returner. Hester will have a couple good years and then fade just like all kick returners.

[UNC41]

I can't help but smile at the people that keep trying to make him out to be Dante Hall 2.0.

Is that the same smile you give to the people after claiming Rex will be one of the 10 best quarterbacks in the NFL this year? Sorry, couldn't resist. :D

[rickyh24]

Dante was pretty exciting in his own right.... like this game winner vs. Denver....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rZay_Je-YQo



thats crazy.....


this run by hobbs was the longest ever i guess...im not saying its that exciting, but it takes balls to run out of the endzone like that.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8nbBX7aJHz8

[Tiduwho]

Is that the same smile you give to the people after claiming Rex will be one of the 10 best quarterbacks in the NFL this year? Sorry, couldn't resist. :D

Yeah yeah, it's week 2. :shrug

[dmbmuskie]

I cannot get excited about someone who is on the field 10 plays per game.

[swampdonkey]

I cannot get excited about someone who is on the field 10 plays per game.

:thumbsup

Exactly...


Also, there was a reason he was a CB folks...undersized and he can't catch the damn ball.

[gravedigger07]

[quote=seekupig;6595416]Dante was pretty exciting in his own right.... like this game winner vs. Denver....


fuck the chiefs

[cbotnyse]

I cannot get excited about someone who is on the field 10 plays per game.I can, easily. Punt and kick returns are now my favorite part of every game.

:thumbsup

Exactly...


Also, there was a reason he was a CB folks...undersized and he can't catch the damn ball.eh, when youre the fastest guy in the NFL, I'll let his size and hands slide a little.

[swampdonkey]

eh, when youre the fastest guy in the NFL, I'll let his size and hands slide a little.

So you've personally measured every NFL players 40 time and can report with certainty that Mr. Hester is the fastest man in the NFL?

He has great vision and he's fast, but he ran a 4.51 at the combine. Not exactly blistering is it?

[Nick@Night]

He ran two kick-offs back against me on Madden, it upset me.

[cbotnyse]

So you've personally measured every NFL players 40 time and can report with certainty that Mr. Hester is the fastest man in the NFL?

He has great vision and he's fast, but he ran a 4.51 at the combine. Not exactly blistering is it?omg dude, take it easy. No I did not measure every player in the NFL. Who's faster? not too many players that I can think of.

[dmbmuskie]

He's not even the most exciting player on Bears. I love to watch Urlacher and Harris play.

[dmbmuskie]

40 times are useless. He's obviously among the fastest players in the league, no matter what his combine numbers say.

[swampdonkey]

omg dude, take it easy. No I did not measure every player in the NFL. Who's faster? not too many players that I can think of.

Sorry man...just saying...he's not the fastest man in the NFL. I know 40 times don't mean everything, but 4.51 is not great...it's just good. I would venture to say that many #1 WR's and CB's are faster. I didn't mean to come off like an arse. I just think a KR shouldn't be as hyped as Hester is. Not when there are players out there that deliver the goods week-in and week-out.

[swampdonkey]

40 times are useless. He's obviously among the fastest players in the league, no matter what his combine numbers say.

I wouldn't say they are "useless". Vision and agility are more important to a KR than flat out speed. His speed is probably one of the things that keeps him from being able to play corner against #1 WRs.

[dmbmuskie]

Football speed and workout speed are two very different things. The names of the men who have ran the fastest 40s ever at the combine are people you have never even heard of in most cases.

[swampdonkey]

Football speed and workout speed are two very different things. The names of the men who have ran the fastest 40s ever at the combine are people you have never even heard of in most cases.

Oh you mean like Dion Sanders...who ran the fast 40 ever?

[UNC41]

What Hester does is amazing to watch, but to nothing in the NFL fascinates me more than watching Peyton direct the Colts' offense game in and game out.

[41ravens]

most exciting...probably not.

most important to the bears...probably. yes, i'm aware of the d, but without his returns setting them up with field position, or scoring himself, that offense would look even worse right now. keep in mind hester accounted for 10 pts. yesterday (the td and the other return that started the offense on like the chiefs' 30 which resulted in a fg).

that being said, i hope dallas is smart enough to not kick to him on sunday.

[cbotnyse]

Sorry man...just saying...he's not the fastest man in the NFL. I know 40 times don't mean everything, but 4.51 is not great...it's just good. I would venture to say that many #1 WR's and CB's are faster. I didn't mean to come off like an arse. I just think a KR shouldn't be as hyped as Hester is. Not when there are players out there that deliver the goods week-in and week-out.I understand your indifference towards Hester, but he is worth the hype. Myabe he'll fade in a few years, maybe he wont. But he is the real deal right now.

DMBZeppelin posted these in the other thread too, pretty imprssive I think.

-Devin Hester Record Watch 07'-

Most Punt Returns in a Career
Current Record: 10, held by Eric Metcalf
Devin Hester: 4

Most Kick Returns in a Career
Current Record: 6, held by 5 players
Devin Hester: 3

Most Returns (Combined) in a Career
Current Record: 13, held by Brian Mitchell
Devin Hester: 8

Most Punt Returns in a Season
Current Record: 4, held by Jack Christiansen and Rick Upchurch
Devin Hester 07': 1

Most Kick Returns in a Season
Current Record: 4, held by Travis Williams and Cecil Turner
Devin Hester 07': 0

Most Returns (Combined) in a Season
Current Record: 6, held by Devin Hester
Devin Hester 07': 1

*Hester is tied for longest play (108), and kick return TD's in a game (2)

[cbotnyse]

that being said, i hope dallas is smart enough to not kick to him on sunday.that is another bonus for us, because it most likely leads to great field position.

[41ravens]

that is another bonus for us, because it most likely leads to great field position.

not necessarily. we have, arguably, the best punter in the game. i'd much rather them kick it out of bounds, give the bears the ball at their own 35, and let the offense try to move the ball. which, as of right now, they're having a little trouble doing.

[dmb71687]

Wrong, that honor will go to Brett Favre as long as he is in this league. :)

[swampdonkey]

Wrong, that honor will go to Brett Favre as long as he is in this league. :)

:thumbsup

[UNC41]

Wrong, that honor will go to Brett Favre as long as he is in this league. :)

lol.

[cbotnyse]

not necessarily. we have, arguably, the best punter in the game. i'd much rather them kick it out of bounds, give the bears the ball at their own 35, and let the offense try to move the ball. which, as of right now, they're having a little trouble doing.:mad :mad :mad yeah no shit...

my comment was more towards kickoffs when it is kicked out of bounds, which happen again aganist the Chiefs. But a good punter will always curb Hesters chances obviously.

[dmb71687]

lol.

Seriously though, everyone has got to atleast agree he's the most exciting QB to watch, with no Michael Vick this year. And the way I see it the QB touches the ball more than any other player, and there lies the justification for my opinion.:monkey

[DMBZeppelin]

I cannot get excited about someone who is on the field 10 plays per game.
He plays on offense now. He needs to get his hands on the ball more. I'm sure as the season goes on he will.
Also, there was a reason he was a CB folks...undersized and he can't catch the damn ball.
Yep, it's called that's where he wanted to play. He wasn't on offense because his heart wasn't in it. He told NFL teams that, and that's why so many passed on him. Lovie convinced him in the off season to switch.

Also, he has the best hands on the team. Any scouting report will tell you that. OTA's, training camp, ect. He caught every thing thrown his way. He drops passes and muffs punts because he thinksabout running before he has the ball.
he ran a 4.51 at the combine. Not exactly blistering is it?
Sure you're not confused? 4.51 was Olsen's slowest 40 time. I'm not sure about the combine, but at his pro day on grass, Hester ran a 4.27

[dmbmuskie]

Oh you mean like Dion Sanders...who ran the fast 40 ever?

I read something wrong. Out of the top 10 fastest WR 40s Sanatana Moss is the only one worth a damn. I thought it was for all players.

[swampdonkey]

Sure you're not confused? 4.51 was Olsen's slowest 40 time. I'm not sure about the combine, but at his pro day on grass, Hester ran a 4.27

Ok I have read both 4.51, 4.44 and 4.41.

Maybe he ran 3 times at the combine?

As for the 4.27, I doubt he is faster than Dion Sanders was. I don't believe that is a legit time, unless they stopped the clock after 35 yards.

Like I said...the reason you don't see him lined up across from TO and Randy Moss is because he simply doesn't match up speed or size wise.

[dmbmuskie]

Ok I have read both 4.51, 4.44 and 4.41.

Maybe he ran 3 times at the combine?

As for the 4.27, I doubt he is faster than Dion Sanders was. I don't believe that is a legit time, unless they stopped the clock after 35 yards.

Like I said...the reason you don't see him lined up across from TO and Randy Moss is because he simply doesn't match up speed or size wise.

I heard he's an idiot who doesn't understand coverage, and that's why he doesn't play.

[swampdonkey]

I read something wrong. Out of the top 10 fastest WR 40s Sanatana Moss is the only one worth a damn. I thought it was for all players.

It's all good. I know combine time doesn't = great player. Your point is well taken.

[swampdonkey]

I heard he's an idiot who doesn't understand coverage, and that's why he doesn't play.

Definitely possible.

[AFurth]

Hester

4.29 40

Sanders

4.19 40



Hester - better returner.

[swampdonkey]

Hester

4.29 40

Sanders

4.19 40



Hester - better returner.

Hester did not run a 4.29 at the combine and Dion's record time was a 4.25....not 4.19.

[dmbhoosier21]

The 40 time is irrelevant. It's obvious that Hester has unbelievable "game speed" and that's all that matters. I don't care if his 40 time was listed as being over 4.6

As for being the most exciting player? Eh, he doesn't get the ball enough to get that kind of moniker.

[UNC41]

Seriously though, everyone has got to atleast agree he's the most exciting QB to watch, with no Michael Vick this year. And the way I see it the QB touches the ball more than any other player, and there lies the justification for my opinion.:monkey

Peyton Manning.

[dmbhoosier21]

Peyton Manning.

Eh, he doesn't throw enough INTs to make it exciting :D

[swampdonkey]

Seriously though, everyone has got to atleast agree he's the most exciting QB to watch, with no Michael Vick this year. And the way I see it the QB touches the ball more than any other player, and there lies the justification for my opinion.:monkey

:thumbsup Amen. Favre is just as exciting to watch or more so than Peyton Manning. If only because when Favre drops back all kinds of shit can happen (good or bad).

[DMBZeppelin]

Ok I have read both 4.51, 4.44 and 4.41.

Maybe he ran 3 times at the combine?

As for the 4.27, I doubt he is faster than Dion Sanders was. I don't believe that is a legit time, unless they stopped the clock after 35 yards.

Like I said...the reason you don't see him lined up across from TO and Randy Moss is because he simply doesn't match up speed or size wise.
It is a very legit time. I never said it was his combine time. At the Miami Pro Day on grass he ran a 4.27 and a 4.29, Google Devin Hester Pro Day.

[swampdonkey]

It is a very legit time. I never said it was his combine time. At the Miami Pro Day on grass he ran a 4.27 and a 4.29, Google Devin Hester Pro Day.

I know that's the time that came out of his pro-day. That's one of the reasons I tend to think it's not legit.

[hawks10]

Well he was called "The NFL's Fastest Player" by Mens Health or Mens Fitness last month (can't remember which one). Now if that is not the end all officiality we need, then I don't know what is :)


And yes, that is sarcasm

[DMBZeppelin]

I know that's the time that came out of his pro-day. That's one of the reasons I tend to think it's not legit.

Because NFL scouts want to lie and make him see better for what purpose? Any team can go to the pro days. If you honestly think he has 4.5 speed... well you're insane

[swampdonkey]

Because NFL scouts want to lie and make him see better for what purpose? Any team can go to the pro days. If you honestly think he has 4.5 speed... well you're insane

I'm not saying he runs a 4.51...but I don't think he runs a 4.27 either.

[cbotnyse]

I'm not saying he runs a 4.51...but I don't think he runs a 4.27 either.lets not argue about 40 speed anymore. If Hester is in the open field, I dont think many guys in the NFL can catch him. Lets just leave it at that.

[swampdonkey]

lets not argue about 40 speed anymore. If Hester is in the open field, I dont think many guys in the NFL can catch him. Lets just leave it at that.

Ok...I definitely agree with that.

[pauly8509]

I swear to you swampdonkey dislikes Hester because of all the hype he's gained, similarly to why I continue to hate the Yanks and Sawks, and Colts, and Red Wings and Avalanche. He's a show that's been beaten to the ground.

With that said, it's irresponsible to post on here that he ran a 4.5, or that other #1 receivers are faster than him when just about every analyst considers him to be the consensus fastest man in the NFL. I'm sorry but Ocho Cinco and the like would lose a dead sprint to him.

Like it was stated in every pre draft ranking and post draft analysis, Devin Hester's speed is really his only asset, he's not big enough or intelligent enough to play corner, and if he did they'd use him as a nickel or dime back to utilize his speed.

In no way is he Dante Hall 2.0, he's too fast and has probably the quickest first step in the game.

Sorry for the long post, but to debate Hester's speed is absolutely laughable, google all you want, but seriously watch him and try and find someone faster.

PS, Brian Urlacher has been able to run down LT and Vick from behind, in comparison, Hester is much faster the Urlacher.

[hawks10]

I swear to you swampdonkey dislikes Hester because of all the hype he's gained, similarly to why I continue to hate the Yanks and Sawks, and Colts, and Red Wings and Avalanche. He's a show that's been beaten to the ground.

With that said, it's irresponsible to post on here that he ran a 4.5, or that other #1 receivers are faster than him when just about every analyst considers him to be the consensus fastest man in the NFL. I'm sorry but Ocho Cinco and the like would lose a dead sprint to him.

Like it was stated in every pre draft ranking and post draft analysis, Devin Hester's speed is really his only asset, he's not big enough or intelligent enough to play corner, and if he did they'd use him as a nickel or dime back to utilize his speed.

In no way is he Dante Hall 2.0, he's too fast and has probably the quickest first step in the game.

Sorry for the long post, but to debate Hester's speed is absolutely laughable, google all you want, but seriously watch him and try and find someone faster.

PS, Brian Urlacher has been able to run down LT and Vick from behind, in comparison, Hester is much faster the Urlacher.

Good post :thumbsup

[crashintome202]

he can be the most exciting anytime he wants, he's far from the best.

this same statement is made by mets fans over jose reyes.

SOOOS EXCITIGN!I@J(*#)##!!!

[cbotnyse]

he can be the most exciting anytime he wants, he's far from the best.

this same statement is made by mets fans over jose reyes.

SOOOS EXCITIGN!I@J(*#)##!!! I dont think anyone is saying that...but like the title suggests, most exciting player? He could be.

[crashintome202]

I dont think anyone is saying that...but like the title suggests, most exciting player? He could be.
i know its just alot of people try to twist most exciting into best. you'd be surprised how much this happens

[cbotnyse]

i know its just alot of people try to twist most exciting into best. you'd be surprised how much this happensoh yeah, I agree.

[swampdonkey]

I swear to you swampdonkey dislikes Hester because of all the hype he's gained, similarly to why I continue to hate the Yanks and Sawks, and Colts, and Red Wings and Avalanche. He's a show that's been beaten to the ground.

With that said, it's irresponsible to post on here that he ran a 4.5, or that other #1 receivers are faster than him when just about every analyst considers him to be the consensus fastest man in the NFL. I'm sorry but Ocho Cinco and the like would lose a dead sprint to him.

Like it was stated in every pre draft ranking and post draft analysis, Devin Hester's speed is really his only asset, he's not big enough or intelligent enough to play corner, and if he did they'd use him as a nickel or dime back to utilize his speed.

In no way is he Dante Hall 2.0, he's too fast and has probably the quickest first step in the game.

Sorry for the long post, but to debate Hester's speed is absolutely laughable, google all you want, but seriously watch him and try and find someone faster.

PS, Brian Urlacher has been able to run down LT and Vick from behind, in comparison, Hester is much faster the Urlacher.

Sorry...I'm just quoting official NFL combine numbers that he ran a 4.51, 4.44 and a 4.41. In time you will see that Dante Hall 2.0 is a very accurate description for Devin Hester. I don't hate him...I give him his credit for being an awesome return man, but that's the bottom line. He's just an awesome return man.

[cruscott35]

I was gonna say that too, but its impossible to put a number on it. But if he doesnt fair catch one has has at least a 5-10 yard cushion, there is no bigger threat in the NFL to take it back.


No, its not impossible to put a number on, fair catches don't figure into your return stats for the year.

[cruscott35]

Deangelo Hall is faster...And for whoever thinks that a Pro Day run by coaches of teams who will benefit a ton from having a stud in the NFL are legit 40 times, you're kidding yourselves.

[swampdonkey]

Deangelo Hall is faster...And for whoever thinks that a Pro Day run by coaches of teams who will benefit a ton from having a stud in the NFL are legit 40 times, you're kidding yourselves.

:thumbsup

[DMBtheStoned]

PTI just claimed Hester is the best rerturn guy ever

[cruscott35]

As was already stated, pure speed doesn't equate to good returner.

[swampdonkey]

As was already stated, pure speed doesn't equate to good returner.

Word. Hester isn't just great because of his speed. He has crazy agility and vision.

[saygdbye4134]

most exciting...probably not.

most important to the bears...probably. yes, i'm aware of the d, but without his returns setting them up with field position, or scoring himself, that offense would look even worse right now. keep in mind hester accounted for 10 pts. yesterday (the td and the other return that started the offense on like the chiefs' 30 which resulted in a fg).

that being said, i hope dallas is smart enough to not kick to him on sunday.


kicking to him would make your team romo-rons. bitch.

[ChetUbetcha]

He is quite the cat. Hopefully he can develop into a sold receiving threat as well..

And for the haters...shut the fuck up. You look stupid.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

I wouldn't say he's the most exciting player in the NFL right now.

But I would say he definitely has potential to be one of the most exciting players if he is utilized more.

[saygdbye4134]

I wouldn't say he's the most exciting player in the NFL right now.

But I would say he definitely has potential to be one of the most exciting players if he is utilized more.


I.E. Grossman not suck and actually get him the ball.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

I.E. Grossman not suck and actually get him the ball.

Why don't we just blame Everything on Rex ?



Oh wait people already do.

[DMBZeppelin]

I'm not saying he runs a 4.51...but I don't think he runs a 4.27 either.
What speed do you think he ran then? Reggie Bush didn't run at the combine. He ran at his Pro Day. He was clocked at 4.38, and who do you think is faster, Hester or Bush? And you stated that in a previous post I believe, that he ran a 4.51 and a 4.41. That tells me he wasn't his normal self that day. Most 40 times vary by a couple points. How many times do you hear of a guy running a 4.61 and then busting out a 4.49 something around .10 different.
Deangelo Hall is faster...And for whoever thinks that a Pro Day run by coaches of teams who will benefit a ton from having a stud in the NFL are legit 40 times, you're kidding yourselves.
Ok but how much time would they have shaved then? I mean so instead of a 4.27 he really ran a 4.32-5? I mean I doubt he ran a 4.51 and they're like "Oh well we clocked him at 4.27"
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But I'm more interested in Hester's 40 time, which is listed as 4.51. Here is an incomplete list of players listed as having a faster 40 time than Hester: Marcus Hudson (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/hudson_marcus), Daniel Bullocks (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/bullocks_daniel), Manny Lawson (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/lawson_manny), Josh Lay (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/lay_josh), Will Blackmon (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/blackmon_will), Marcus Vick (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/vick_marcus), Thomas Howard (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/howard_thomas), Todd Watkins (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/watkins_todd), Jeff Webb (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/webb_jeff), Jonathan Orr (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/orr_jonathan), Vernon Davis (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/davis_vernon), Maurice Jones-Drew (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/drew_maurice), Jimmy Williams (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/williams_jimmy), Reggie McNeal (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/mcneal_reggie). Lawson and Howard are linebackers. Davis is a tight end. Are they really faster than Hester?

[swampdonkey]

I have no idea how fast he ran. The guy is fast and he's a great returner. I'm sorry I started a debate about how fast he runs the 40. I didn't realize how personally all the Hester lovers would take it if I mentioned his combine numbers. You guys aren't dating him are you?

He probably runs between a 4.27 and 4.51, but I can't say where.

[saygdbye4134]

Why don't we just blame Everything on Rex ?



Oh wait people already do.



i tend to blame things on people when their lack of talent makes the rest of the team worse.

I.E. Rex Grossman

sorry dude, but KC is it for me. you shouldn't be throwing a pick on a 4-yard screen. I hate to say it, i mean, i like Grossman, he persevered through a lot of shit. problem is, he just really isn't that great of a pro quarterback. plain and simple.

[On Bended Knees]

Eli Manning is the most exciting player in the NFL

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

i tend to blame things on people when their lack of talent makes the rest of the team worse.

I.E. Rex Grossman

sorry dude, but KC is it for me. you shouldn't be throwing a pick on a 4-yard screen. I hate to say it, i mean, i like Grossman, he persevered through a lot of shit. problem is, he just really isn't that great of a pro quarterback. plain and simple.

Well for one before when I was talkin about Hester being utilized more I meant that the coaches should put him in more plays.

I wasn't talking about Rex passing him the ball. And last time Rex passed to him it was a perfect pass but it went right through Hester's hands, it was his fault not Rex's.

That pick that you were talking about was intended for Garret Wolfe.
Wolfe hardly even turned around to see where the ball was and Rex was being rushed as usuall cause or O-line sucks. So he paniced and made a mistake.

I just hate when someone's talking about the Bears or anything Bears related and almost instantly there is someone else around who just bashes Rex and its usually a Bear's fan.

Any mistake that was made is automatically Rex's fault.

It's old and annoying.... no offense though.

[cottlerocket]

Hester is probably the most explosive and exciting player in the game today. Personally, the player I would pay the most to see would be Peyton Manning. He is just amazing.

We have a guy here in Buffalo, Roscoe Parrish, who is a very exciting and game-breaking type player as well. The only problem is that the coaching staff here refuses to use him in most passing situations and mainly use him as a punt returner. It's baffling to me and lots of other Bills fans. Everytime he gets the ball in his hands he has a chance to take it all the way, but the coaches rarely give him a chance on the offensive side of the ball.

[dmbhoosier21]

Hester is probably the most explosive and exciting player in the game today. Personally, the player I would pay the most to see would be Peyton Manning. He is just amazing.

We have a guy here in Buffalo, Roscoe Parrish, who is a very exciting and game-breaking type player as well. The only problem is that the coaching staff here refuses to use him in most passing situations and mainly use him as a punt returner. It's baffling to me and lots of other Bills fans. Everytime he gets the ball in his hands he has a chance to take it all the way, but the coaches rarely give him a chance on the offensive side of the ball.

Yeah, Hester is the more "in-your-face" exciting player when he has the ball. With Hester, you don't need to be a football fan to see/notice that he is an exciting player when the ball is in his hands.

Manning is the more subtle exciting player. You really need to have some knowledge about the game to find him exciting. He isn't like the Favre or Marino of old with cannons for arms; but Manning is more cerebral in is approach to the game. I have never seen anyone control the game as well as Manning. Especially now that he is more willing to defer to other players i.e. running the ball or dumping an underneath pass when it's called for.

[twk13]

the answer to the op is:
obvy

[dmb71687]

Hester is probably the most explosive and exciting player in the game today. Personally, the player I would pay the most to see would be Peyton Manning. He is just amazing.

We have a guy here in Buffalo, Roscoe Parrish, who is a very exciting and game-breaking type player as well. The only problem is that the coaching staff here refuses to use him in most passing situations and mainly use him as a punt returner. It's baffling to me and lots of other Bills fans. Everytime he gets the ball in his hands he has a chance to take it all the way, but the coaches rarely give him a chance on the offensive side of the ball.


Two words, fumble.prone.

[DMBZeppelin]

The Chiefs are weighing in on our topic:

High praise: No one was more impressed with Devin Hester’s spectacular performance Sunday than Chiefs linebacker Derrick Johnson.
“Devin Hester is the best in the league, period,” Johnson said. “As you can see, he’s crazy. The guy is phenomenal.”

[JTRocks]

I am so sick of people saying that Hester is just a "flash in the pan" type player and comparing his legacy to dante hall, that is ludacris. I think even comparing his returning ability to prime time is an insult to hester, Hester is going to pass deions 14 seasons of return numbers inside 2 seasons this year

Just go on you tube and look at his kick returns going all the way back to his miami days. this isnt just some guy who is gonna fool everyone for a couple years and then dissapear, this guy is a special returner and he just has a natural fearless ability to return kicks. I think when its all said and done he will be the greatest kick returner of all time

[cbotnyse]

bump

[Tiduwho]

You can't STOP Hester. You can only HOPE to contain him!!!!



You knew with how many almost breaks he's had today that it was only a matter of time.



But remember...he's just a fluke again and again. It's just a coincidence and a breakdown in kick coverage each time. :rolleyes

[bothedmbfan]

Devin Hester is my best friend in the whole wide world.

[Ev42]

thank god for Hester

[On Bended Knees]

Hester = Gay.

[bothedmbfan]

Hester = Greatest Special Teams Player Ever.

Fixed for accuracy.

[Ev42]

[QUOTE=On Bended Knees;6653658]Hester = God

fixed

[On Bended Knees]

Fixed for accuracy.

Hester = Gayest Special Teams Player Ever

[dmbmuskie]

He's as much of a liabilty as he is a weapon. How many fumbles does he have this year?

[cbotnyse]

Hester = Gay.if he keeps giving us awesome field position and breaking touchdowns, he can suck as much cock as he wants in my book.

[Ev42]

Hester = God of Special Teams

Fixed that for you chief

[cbotnyse]

He's as much of a liabilty as he is a weapon.no way in hell this is true. I'll take his risks of turnovers to his ability to give us great field position and TDs.

[dmbmuskie]

no way in hell this is true. I'll take his risks of turnovers to his ability to give us great field position and TDs.

You are only saying that because the Bears are recovering his fumbles, which is just luck. Everything in the NFL eventually balances out, he's eventually going to cost the Bears points.

[cbotnyse]

You are only saying that because the Bears are recovering his fumbles, which is just luck. Everything in the NFL eventually balances out, he's eventually going to cost the Bears points.I'm not denying that...hell, he just fumbled again! but I'd much rather have his high risk, high reward style that not have it.

[cottlerocket]

Two words, fumble.prone.

One word: What???
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7231/career;_ylt=AoppCKPWuo_OsmQ3_OCHDkj.uLYF

[41ravens]

too bad the rest of the team sucks. put hester at qb.

[DMBZeppelin]

Hester = Gayest Special Teams Player Ever
Says the guy who's user name is "On bended knees"

[seekupig]

it was nice to see Dante Hall breaking people's ankles again yesterday.... even if it is for a new team...

he may not be better than Hester, but i still believe that his run backs are more exciting to watch. he changes direction like no one else....

[kurz41]

Says the guy who's user name is "On bended knees"
:lol

[DMBZeppelin]

it was nice to see Dante Hall breaking people's ankles again yesterday.... even if it is for a new team...

he may not be better than Hester, but i still believe that his run backs are more exciting to watch. he changes direction like no one else....
I'm going to have to disagree. If Dante could change direction like Hester... well we'd still be talking about Dante.

Granted Hall if he returns a few more will probably own a record for a season or two before Hester gets it. If I remember correctly the record for combined returns in a career is 13. Hall has 12, which is insane. He's only 29, and he's been in the league for 8 years.

Hester is 24, and is in his second year of the league. He already has 9 to Hall's 12. That's not a knock on Hall. He's a great returner, but Hester is just a freak of nature. There will never be another returner like Hester.

[gocubsgo3822]

Devin should be the next QB and run Hester left Hester right

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Says the guy who's user name is "On bended knees"

Im sorry but that was just pure ownage. :thumbsup

[Dancing Ants]

You can't STOP Hester.




the dallas cowboys did.

Tony Romo officially took Hester's "Most Exciting Player" title yesterday.

[Tiduwho]

the dallas cowboys did.

Tony Romo officially took Hester's "Most Exciting Player" title yesterday.

Yeah, that was a heat of the moment immediate post. What I should have put was "You can only hold him down for so long.." That's what I had in mind before the standard basketball euphanism popped into my head and I forgot the original.

[Dancing Ants]

Yeah, that was a heat of the moment immediate post. What I should have put was "You can only hold him down for so long.." That's what I had in mind before the standard basketball euphanism popped into my head and I forgot the original.

i'm just giving you a hard time man. i partially think he psyched himself up so much that he made mistakes.

[UCFish]

the dallas cowboys did.

Tony Romo officially took Hester's "Most Exciting Player" title yesterday.

Respectfully disagree.

Although it was exciting when he could not handle that snap last year.

[Dancing Ants]

Respectfully disagree.

Although it was exciting when he could not handle that snap last year.

:lol :lol
gotta bring up last year for a diss huh? not the kick ass snaparooski from yesterday or the fact that his team is averaging 38 pts a game and he's got 11 TDs and 3 INTs? doesn't do anything for ya? ok.

what team are you a fan of, by the way?

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Respectfully disagree.

Although it was exciting when he could not handle that snap last year.


:lol :lol :lol

[UCFish]

:lol :lol
gotta bring up last year for a diss huh? not the kick ass snaparooski from yesterday or the fact that his team is averaging 38 pts a game and he's got 11 TDs and 3 INTs? doesn't do anything for ya? ok.

what team are you a fan of, by the way?

The team you beat the shit out of last week. Although Rex had stats like that through 4 games last year. Don't get me wrong I am not saying he will fall off that hard but sometimes let the season pan out.

[UCFish]

Oh and he is pretty impressive but I still think Hester is more fun to watch. I would like to see him more involved in the offense though. Try a few reverses. Try anything to get him the ball.

[cottlerocket]

the dallas cowboys did.

Tony Romo officially took Hester's "Most Exciting Player" title yesterday.

:lol :lol :lol

Only a Cowboys fan would think this.

[CrushinPIG38]

despite the Bears playing like shit, everytime Hester touches the ball everyperson at the bar is watching the tv. Kid is a fucking stud

[crashintonickdm]

:lol :lol :lol

Only a Cowboys fan would think this.

how isnt tony romo exciting? just curious. its not 2006 anymore, the botched snap is over. lets move on and get with 2007. he has been impressive.

not trying to be a dick, so dont quote me and say im a typical cowboys fan.

[Dancing Ants]

:lol :lol :lol

Only a Cowboys fan would think this.

if you're gonna say that...name me someone. i'm betting you don't watch the cowboys very often, but instead watch a lot of sportscenter, which doesn't do the guy justice.

[UCFish]

The team you beat the shit out of last week. Although Rex had stats like that through 4 games last year. Don't get me wrong I am not saying he will fall off that hard but sometimes let the season pan out.

So 12 TDs now and 8 interceptions. Looks a lot like Grossman of last year after the Arizona game. As I said before wait til the end of the season.

Dallas fans I am guessing you must feel just as happy as I did last year after we pulled it off on the Monday night game.

Congrats to you guys.

AWESOME WIN!!

[AFurth]

how isnt tony romo exciting? just curious. its not 2006 anymore, the botched snap is over. lets move on and get with 2007. he has been impressive.

not trying to be a dick, so dont quote me and say im a typical cowboys fan.

typical cowboys fan.

[DMBZeppelin]

The team you beat the shit out of last week. Although Rex had stats like that through 4 games last year. Don't get me wrong I am not saying he will fall off that hard but sometimes let the season pan out.
:lol You bring that up and Romo has his version of the "Arizona" game. Rex had 4 INTs, and Romo had 5. Though I think Rex had 2 fumbles to Romo's 1. Which still gives them 6 a piece on Monday Night. If he follows the Rex trend. That would mean he's due for a huge game next week before falling off again.

[lockman21]

how isnt tony romo exciting? just curious. its not 2006 anymore, the botched snap is over. lets move on and get with 2007. he has been impressive.

not trying to be a dick, so dont quote me and say im a typical cowboys fan.

Can we make fun of Romo for 2007 now, Cowboys fan?

[Fishbulb290]

Can we make fun of Romo for 2007 now, Cowboys fan?

5-0, sure I don't think it's going to bother him any.

[cbotnyse]

how isnt tony romo exciting? just curious. its not 2006 anymore, the botched snap is over. lets move on and get with 2007. he has been impressive.

not trying to be a dick, so dont quote me and say im a typical cowboys fan.why the hell are all these Dallas fans coming out saying Romo is the most exciting player? He threw 5 INTs yesterday, thats not exciting, thats embarrassing.

[swampdonkey]

Romo is more exciting then Hester. This is not a cowboy fan talking either.

[DMBZeppelin]

Romo is more exciting then Hester. This is not a cowboy fan talking either.
Do you people not get what exciting means? Hester is the most exciting player in the NFL. Maybe you will understand this. Mike Vick was a more exciting player then Romo last year. Was Mike Vick better QB? No, but he was exciting.

You didn't know if he was going to go off on some crazy run. What Hester does with the ball in his hands make people go "WOW!" and that's on a national level. Tony Romo is a good QB, but what's so exciting about him?

[pauly8509]

Do you people not get what exciting means? Hester is the most exciting player in the NFL. Maybe you will understand this. Mike Vick was a more exciting player then Romo last year. Was Mike Vick better QB? No, but he was exciting.

You didn't know if he was going to go off on some crazy run. What Hester does with the ball in his hands make people go "WOW!" and that's on a national level. Tony Romo is a good QB, but what's so exciting about him?


This should just end the thread. :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

[swampdonkey]

Do you people not get what exciting means? Hester is the most exciting player in the NFL. Maybe you will understand this. Mike Vick was a more exciting player then Romo last year. Was Mike Vick better QB? No, but he was exciting.

You didn't know if he was going to go off on some crazy run. What Hester does with the ball in his hands make people go "WOW!" and that's on a national level. Tony Romo is a good QB, but what's so exciting about him?

I guess what is exciting to you is not exciting to me. Exciting to me is seeing a guy who came from out of nowhere play at a very high level. A guy who can lead his team is exciting and sidestepping a rusher then completing a bullet is exciting to me. Devin Hester is just a flash in the pan who will be an afterthought in a couple years. He may continue to put up solid numbers and he'll probably own all the records when he's done, but still...he's just a fucking kick returner. Although he may generate 4-5 "exciting" plays a season I just don't see what is so "exciting" about him.

[DMBZeppelin]

I guess what is exciting to you is not exciting to me. Exciting to me is seeing a guy who came from out of nowhere play at a very high level. A guy who can lead his team is exciting and sidestepping a rusher then completing a bullet is exciting to me. Devin Hester is just a flash in the pan who will be an afterthought in a couple years. He may continue to put up solid numbers and he'll probably own all the records when he's done, but still...he's just a fucking kick returner. Although he may generate 4-5 "exciting" plays a season I just don't see what is so "exciting" about him.
If you can't understand it, then I'm not sure you belong in a thread like this. Duece McCallister is more important to the Saints then lets say Reggie Bush. But who's the more exciting player? Devin Hester has an INSANE ammount of talent, and could do things Romo will never be able to do.

Hester is more then a flash in a pan. It's not like he's on a hot streak. He keeps doing it. I mean Hester has scored on clutch returns as well. He was a HUGE reason we beat Arizona last year. We were down and they kicked to him. He was juking and beating people left and right, and bam we get 7.

[cbotnyse]

I guess what is exciting to you is not exciting to me. Exciting to me is seeing a guy who came from out of nowhere play at a very high level. A guy who can lead his team is exciting and sidestepping a rusher then completing a bullet is exciting to me. Devin Hester is just a flash in the pan who will be an afterthought in a couple years. He may continue to put up solid numbers and he'll probably own all the records when he's done, but still...he's just a fucking kick returner. Although he may generate 4-5 "exciting" plays a season I just don't see what is so "exciting" about him.:ugh a flash in the pan who owns all the records? hmmm

is throwing 5 INTs exciting too? Romo is a good QB, but I think Peyton, Palmer and Brady are much more exciting to watch, and thats just in the QB category.

And you obviously do not watch Hester every week. He has 4-5 exciting plays per game. Just because he doesnt get to the end zone doesnt mean its not exciting. He turns loses into 20 yard gains and seems to come close to breaking big plays every return.

[swampdonkey]

If you can't understand it, then I'm not sure you belong in a thread like this. Duece McCallister is more important to the Saints then lets say Reggie Bush. But who's the more exciting player? Devin Hester has an INSANE ammount of talent, and could do things Romo will never be able to do.

Hester is more then a flash in a pan. It's not like he's on a hot streak. He keeps doing it. I mean Hester has scored on clutch returns as well. He was a HUGE reason we beat Arizona last year. We were down and they kicked to him. He was juking and beating people left and right, and bam we get 7.


Ok....I see why you're being so irrational about it. Bears fan. I just don't think a guy that gives you 4-5 big plays a year is that exciting and I never will. If I was a bears fan I'd probably think he's exciting because he's their best weapon, but I just don't see it that way.

[swampdonkey]

:ugh a flash in the pan who owns all the records? hmmm

is throwing 5 INTs exciting too? Romo is a good QB, but I think Peyton, Palmer and Brady are much more exciting to watch, and thats just in the QB category.

And you obviously do not watch Hester every week. He has 4-5 exciting plays per game. Just because he doesnt get to the end zone doesnt mean its not exciting. He turns loses into 20 yard gains and seems to come close to breaking big plays every return.

Yeah...every great kick returner has only been great for a short span. He will lose his speed and agility that makes him great eventually and then we'll see. I personally don't think he'll be doing this for 5 years. He doesn't own all the records either go check for yourself. He may own them by the time he's through, but if you go look at the length of time great returners are productive it isn't very long. The NFL's official website can help you out with this.

True enough, I don't watch him every week.

[cbotnyse]

Yeah...every great kick returner has only been great for a short span. He will lose his speed and agility that makes him great eventually and then we'll see. I personally don't think he'll be doing this for 5 years. He doesn't own all the records either go check for yourself. He may own them by the time he's through, but if you go look at the length of time great returners are productive it isn't very long. The NFL's official website can help you out with this.

True enough, I don't watch him every week.I didnt say he owns all the records, you said he probably will. If thats true, he will not be a flash in the pan, or an afterthought. solid reply though. :lol :thumbsdow

[jaking1185]

If you can't understand it, then I'm not sure you belong in a thread like this. Duece McCallister is more important to the Saints then lets say Reggie Bush. But who's the more exciting player? Devin Hester has an INSANE ammount of talent, and could do things Romo will never be able to do.

Hester is more then a flash in a pan. It's not like he's on a hot streak. He keeps doing it. I mean Hester has scored on clutch returns as well. He was a HUGE reason we beat Arizona last year. We were down and they kicked to him. He was juking and beating people left and right, and bam we get 7.

I think a good analogy would be saying Michael Vick was a more exciting player than Peyton Manning. Does that mean Vick was a better player? Of course not, not even close, but Vick was capable of more amazing physical feats while on the field.

Hester is very exciting and he should have all the return records within the next year or so. The only bad thing is that great returners only have a small window of excellence before a large drop off. Dante Hall was unstoppable a few years ago, but you never hear about him anymore.

[swampdonkey]

:ugh a flash in the pan who owns all the records? hmmm



You weren't paraphrasing me when you said this were you? I said he "may" by the time he's through.

[cbotnyse]

^^ yeah but who cares where he'll be in a few years. Who is the most exciting player in the NFL right now? It may be Hester, but its def not Romo.

[swampdonkey]

I think a good analogy would be saying Michael Vick was a more exciting player than Peyton Manning. Does that mean Vick was a better player? Of course not, not even close, but Vick was capable of more amazing physical feats while on the field.

Hester is very exciting and he should have all the return records within the next year or so. The only bad thing is that great returners only have a small window of excellence before a large drop off. Dante Hall was unstoppable a few years ago, but you never hear about him anymore.

I agree about Michael Vick. He touched the ball every play...

I just don't think you can be the most exciting player if you touch the ball 5 times a game haha. I see what you mean though.

[cbotnyse]

You weren't paraphrasing me when you said this were you? I said he "may" by the time he's through.He can be a flash in the pan and he may hold all the records but he cant be both. agreed?

[swampdonkey]

He can be a flash in the pan and he may hold all the records but he cant be both.

Yes he can. It is the nature of great returners. Like I said, go look at the stats. All the greats set their record over a short span and Hester will be no different. He only needs 6 more TDs to set the record for return TDs by an individual.

[cbotnyse]

Yes he can. It is the nature of great returners. Like I said, go look at the stats. All the greats set their record over a short span and Hester will be no different. He only needs 6 more TDs to set the record for return TDs by an individual.OK fine, agree to disagree. But setting that record is no small feat in my eyes.

[41ravens]

:ugh a flash in the pan who owns all the records? hmmm

is throwing 5 INTs exciting too? Romo is a good QB, but I think Peyton, Palmer and Brady are much more exciting to watch, and thats just in the QB category.

And you obviously do not watch Hester every week. He has 4-5 exciting plays per game. Just because he doesnt get to the end zone doesnt mean its not exciting. He turns loses into 20 yard gains and seems to come close to breaking big plays every return.

i have watched every bears game. this is not true. he had good games against the chiefs and the lions. he wasn't a factor against the chargers (from what i remember), the cowboys kicked to him and shut him down. and green bay kicked away from him.

i'm not saying he isn't good and that everyone isn't on the edge of their seat when he gets the ball with some field in front of him, but "4-5 big plays a game" is a stretch. plus, he's still very fumble-prone.

[cbotnyse]

4-5 plays a game may be a strech, yes. But there is no denying that anytime someone kicks to him and he has a few yards cushion, there is not a player in the league capable of taking it all the way more than he is. Or at least losing a few chumps and turning a loss into a gain. That, to me, is exciting.

[swampdonkey]

i have watched every bears game. this is not true. he had good games against the chiefs and the lions. he wasn't a factor against the chargers (from what i remember), the cowboys kicked to him and shut him down. and green bay kicked away from him.

i'm not saying he isn't good and that everyone isn't on the edge of their seat when he gets the ball with some field in front of him, but "4-5 big plays a game" is a stretch. plus, he's still very fumble-prone.

Green Bay punted to him twice and he went for losses both times.

[swampdonkey]

OK fine, agree to disagree. But setting that record is no small feat in my eyes.

Agree with you 100% on this. He is a phenomenal returner. I don't want to take anything away from what he has done on the football field.

[cbotnyse]

Green Bay punted to him twice and he went for losses both times.whats your point?

^edit nevermind, I liked your last post. :)

[swampdonkey]

whats your point?

^edit nevermind, I liked your last post. :)

:lol...I was just commenting on the quote before. Where Ravens said the Pack kicked away from him (which they did on kickoffs), I was just pointing out that they did punt to him.

Again, I'm not saying that as a knock. Even the greatest can't make huge yards every time they touch the ball. Hester is probably going to go down as the greatest returner ever ...I'm not knocking him at all.

[cbotnyse]

^true that.

in your opinion, who is the most exciting player in the NFL right now?

[swampdonkey]

^true that.

in your opinion, who is the most exciting player in the NFL right now?

Well...I'm a Packer fan...

BRETT FAVRE!!

[cbotnyse]

Well...I'm a Packer fan...

BRETT FAVRE!!I knew there was a reason I hated you! :lol but yeah that old fuck can still be exciting.

[swampdonkey]

I knew there was a reason I hated you! :lol but yeah that old fuck can still be exciting.

:lol

There's kind of a strange mix of fear and excitement when Brett drops back to pass like. "Ohhhh shhiiit.....YEAH!" haha...it's great fun.

[DMBZeppelin]

Yes he can. It is the nature of great returners. Like I said, go look at the stats. All the greats set their record over a short span and Hester will be no different. He only needs 6 more TDs to set the record for return TDs by an individual.
I have a question that maybe someone will know the answer to. Do playoff stats not count as a career stat? If you're watching ESPN, ect. they will say Hester had 6 returns last year. They never count his Super Bowl return which would make him have 7 last year, and 2 this year.

[DMBZeppelin]

Hester is very exciting and he should have all the return records within the next year or so. The only bad thing is that great returners only have a small window of excellence before a large drop off. Dante Hall was unstoppable a few years ago, but you never hear about him anymore.
Well the thing about Dante Hall is that he emerged one year by returning one in the first four weeks of a season. People actually were saying it's possible for him to get MVP consideration. He ended the year with those same four. Most flash in the pan returners have a good stretch, and fizzle out.

Hester in his first NFL game took one back on GB. As the season went on, he got one here and there. It didn't stop, it even happened in the Super Bowl. Plus the guy had a few called back last year, and this year. What seperates him from a Hall, is that he consistently does it IMO. What could stop Hester some is that he gets more involved on offense, he may become less effective returning kicks. Only time will tell.

[swampdonkey]

I have a question that maybe someone will know the answer to. Do playoff stats not count as a career stat? If you're watching ESPN, ect. they will say Hester had 6 returns last year. They never count his Super Bowl return which would make him have 7 last year, and 2 this year.

Post season stats do not count as career stats. Not all teams go to the post season so to include them in career stats would not be fair and make comparing them difficult. Post season stats are tracked seperately.

[swampdonkey]

Well the thing about Dante Hall is that he emerged one year by returning one in the first four weeks of a season. People actually were saying it's possible for him to get MVP consideration. He ended the year with those same four. Most flash in the pan returners have a good stretch, and fizzle out.

Hester in his first NFL game took one back on GB. As the season went on, he got one here and there. It didn't stop, it even happened in the Super Bowl. Plus the guy had a few called back last year, and this year. What seperates him from a Hall, is that he consistently does it IMO. What could stop Hester some is that he gets more involved on offense, he may become less effective returning kicks. Only time will tell.

When do you think Dante hall got the other 8 of his returns for TDs? He has 12 total.

[hawks10]

Green Bay punted to him twice and he went for losses both times.

Actually he had 4 punt returns that game for a total of 40 yards and a long of 20. I love when people make shit up, talk out of their ass and expect people to take it at face value.

[swampdonkey]

Actually he had 4 punt returns that game for a total of 40 yards and a long of 20. I love when people make shit up, talk out of their ass and expect people to take it at face value.

Well shit....I guess I missed the times he gained yardage. He only had one for a loss of yards. He had -2, 20 (penalized 10yds for a hold though), 14 and 8. My bust.

[Tiduwho]

Green Bay punted to him twice and he went for losses both times.

One was for a loss. The one at the end of the game, he looked like he was about to be dropped, somehow squirted between 2 guys and appeared with a burst to gain 14 yards. :rolleyes

[swampdonkey]

One was for a loss. The one at the end of the game, he looked like he was about to be dropped, somehow squirted between 2 guys and appeared with a burst to gain 14 yards. :rolleyes

Yes...one was for a loss I said that above. :rolleyes

[cbotnyse]

Bump

[Nick@Night]

I bet that will be the only score of the game now.

[cbotnyse]

I bet that will be the only score of the game now.that'd be fine by me. :)

[DMBZeppelin]

I bet that will be the only score of the game now.
It really just depends if they kick to Hester again.

[Nick@Night]

Spoke too soon, TJ actually completed the first deep pass of his life.

[1eyed_jack]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF6S0-A2UHg

:lol makes duke look like a high school team

[cbotnyse]

Spoke too soon, TJ actually completed the first deep pass of his life.Griese just did too. :lol

[cbotnyse]

Adrian Peterson made a serious case for this title today...but then again, so did Hester.

[malarks26]

Hester is the next Deion Sanders.

[swampdonkey]

He was insane tonight. That deep pass to him was sick.

[RJ2kWJ]

Leave it to somebody from a Florida school to be absolutely amazing.

Heres to you Dirty Dirty Devin. You are UNREAL. REP "THE U"

Easily the most electric player in the league.

[davehead86]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF6S0-A2UHg

:lol makes duke look like a high school team

Im so glad that he dosent run backwards as much as he used to in college and last year.




Devin Hester is one of a very few amazing players in the NFL right now.

[cbotnyse]

bump. :D

He is pretty much the only reason I tune in to the games these days.

[dmbhoosier21]

bump. :D

He is pretty much the only reason I tune in to the games these days.

Why do teams still opt to kick to him?!?!

Especially considering the Bears offense.

[cbotnyse]

Why do teams still opt to kick to him?!?!

Especially considering the Bears offense.I know, its funny. I'm sure glad they do though!

[cbotnyse]

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[john baptiste]

Quit Kicking To Him

[DMB0715]

2? What the hell.

[Tiduwho]

I think I'm going to go read through the first few pages of this thread again to laugh at all the "Hester is just a fluke, he's Dante Hall 2.0!!" talk. :lol


I'll take the occasional fumble and brain fart. He's the GOAT.

[dmbhoosier21]

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice ........

Seriously, have they not been watching Hester the last two years?!?!?!?!

[malarks26]

I think teams just keep thinking that he can't break one every single time he touches it. Looks like they're wrong tonight. LoL

[newscane]

That was great tonight. I loved how they were saying that Hester was having an impact without even touching the ball.

[bothedmbfan]

Greatest football player ever?

[uchuskies87]

absolutely amazing.

[gocubsgo3822]

he is re damn diculous

[bothedmbfan]

It's re-goddamn-diculous, but it's ok.

[DMBZeppelin]

I posted this in the Bears thread, but it also belongs here:

-Devin Hester Record Watch 07'-

Most Punt Returns in a Career
Current Record: 10, held by Eric Metcalf
Devin Hester: 6

Most Kick Returns in a Career
Current Record: 6, held by 5 players
Devin Hester: 5

Most Returns (Combined) in a Career
Current Record: 13, held by Brian Mitchell
Devin Hester: 12

Most Punt Returns in a Season
Current Record: 4, held by Jack Christiansen and Rick Upchurch
Devin Hester 07': 3

Most Kick Returns in a Season
Current Record: 4, held by Travis Williams and Cecil Turner
Devin Hester 07': 2

Most Returns (Combined) in a Season
Current Record: 6, held by Devin Hester
Devin Hester 07': 5

*Hester is tied for the most kickoff returns, and and kick returns for Touchdowns in a game (2). Which he has done multiple times. The Punt Return for Touchdowns in a game is only 2 as well, which you'd have to believe he'll eventually break.
* First person to ever return the opening kickoff in the Super Bowl for a touchdown.
*Hester set a single-game franchise record with 314 Kick Return yards, which is second all time to the Saints Tyrone Hughes who had 347
*Hester set a single-game franchise record for Punt Return yards with 152, and he nearly tied it in Week 12 of the 07' season against the Broncos with 151 punt return yards.
*Thru Week 12, Hester leads the NFL in Punt Returns of 20+ Yards with 9. he also leads the NFL in Punt Returns of 30+ with 6.
*Won Week 2 NFC Special Team Player of the Week, 4th time in Career
*Won Sept. NFC Special Team Player of the Month, 2nd time in Career
*Hester previously tied for the record for longest play (108 yards), but that record recently fell.

[UCFish]

He is awesome. So fun to watch.

[secretlysmiling]

I just happened to be watching the Denver-Chicago game today and caught Hester in action. What an awesome athlete! Why kickers/punters keep sending the ball straight to him is beyond me.

[dmbhoosier21]

I just happened to be watching the Denver-Chicago game today and caught Hester in action. What an awesome athlete! Why kickers/punters keep sending the ball straight to him is beyond me.

Yah, as a team if you have an opportunity to easily negate the opposing team's most dangerous offensive player ....... ummmm you do it. :freak

[bothedmbfan]

No no, keep kicking to him.

[1eyed_jack]

Yah, as a team if you have an opportunity to easily negate the opposing team's most dangerous offensive player ....... ummmm you do it. :freak


sounds easy enough, but no team wants to give the other team the ball on the 40 continuosly. obviously it's better than giving up a touchdown, but you have to see why they do it

[RJ2kWJ]

Gotta love that Southern speed.

As much as I hate The U... Devin is unreal. I respect him a ton. Hope he shatters every record.

[comerelaxnow]

he made a real bonehead play today but he made up for it with his 75 yard td!

[pkrfan97]

I posted this in the Bears thread, but it also belongs here:

-Devin Hester Record Watch 07'-

Most Punt Returns in a Career
Current Record: 10, held by Eric Metcalf
Devin Hester: 6

Most Kick Returns in a Career
Current Record: 6, held by 5 players
Devin Hester: 5

Most Returns (Combined) in a Career
Current Record: 13, held by Brian Mitchell
Devin Hester: 12

Most Punt Returns in a Season
Current Record: 4, held by Jack Christiansen and Rick Upchurch
Devin Hester 07': 3

Most Kick Returns in a Season
Current Record: 4, held by Travis Williams and Cecil Turner
Devin Hester 07': 2

Most Returns (Combined) in a Season
Current Record: 6, held by Devin Hester
Devin Hester 07': 5

*Hester is tied for the most kickoff returns, and and kick returns for Touchdowns in a game (2). Which he has done multiple times. The Punt Return for Touchdowns in a game is only 2 as well, which you'd have to believe he'll eventually break.
* First person to ever return the opening kickoff in the Super Bowl for a touchdown.
*Hester set a single-game franchise record with 314 Kick Return yards, which is second all time to the Saints Tyrone Hughes who had 347
*Hester set a single-game franchise record for Punt Return yards with 152, and he nearly tied it in Week 12 of the 07' season against the Broncos with 151 punt return yards.
*Thru Week 12, Hester leads the NFL in Punt Returns of 20+ Yards with 9. he also leads the NFL in Punt Returns of 30+ with 6.
*Won Week 2 NFC Special Team Player of the Week, 4th time in Career
*Won Sept. NFC Special Team Player of the Month, 2nd time in Career
*Hester previously tied for the record for longest play (108 yards), but that record recently fell.

If anyone else was interested in the new record as I was, here's a youtube video of it: http://youtube.com/watch?v=SWhOut7tPSk

109 yards. Damn. At the end of the video, you can see he was an inch or two from stepping out of bounds at the back of the end zone. Looks like he'll have the record for a looong time....

[RJ2kWJ]

If anyone else was interested in the new record as I was, here's a youtube video of it: http://youtube.com/watch?v=SWhOut7tPSk

109 yards. Damn. At the end of the video, you can see he was an inch or two from stepping out of bounds at the back of the end zone. Looks like he'll have the record for a looong time....

And it came frommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

A NOLEEEEEEE!!!

WOOO Antonio you are too RUGGED. come to FSU, hit the pros. Unbelievable.

[dmbhoosier21]

sounds easy enough, but no team wants to give the other team the ball on the 40 continuosly. obviously it's better than giving up a touchdown, but you have to see why they do it


I would normally agree with you but with Hester's ability and considering the Bears offense, this would be the rare case where it might actually be a good idea to give the offense the ball on the 40, instead of kicking it to a return man who if given the opportunity will probably at least get it to the 40 anyway.

In virtually all other instances, I'd agree with you.

[cbotnyse]

The only bad thing is, he will get kicked to less and less.Its funny to back read in this thread. This was my post back in September. We are all saying the same things about how nobody will kick to him, but they still are! love it.

[dmbhoosier21]

Its funny to back read in this thread. This was my post back in September. We are all saying the same things about how nobody will kick to him, but they still are! love it.

It is strange. I just don't understand it.

[hawks10]

2 more...unreal...!!

Watching this guy from the sidelines is incredible...well worth the $65 for a ticket week in and week out

But how bout that catch by Berrian?...clutch

[darbini]

it wasn't a bad throw either

[DMBZeppelin]

I would normally agree with you but with Hester's ability and considering the Bears offense, this would be the rare case where it might actually be a good idea to give the offense the ball on the 40, instead of kicking it to a return man who if given the opportunity will probably at least get it to the 40 anyway.

In virtually all other instances, I'd agree with you.
Rex has been back for 10 quarters, plus a few minutes of overtime. In that time the Bears have put up 74 points. 14 of those belong to Hester. So the actual Bears offense only 60.

Which isn't bad since against Oakland and Seattle Hester was a total non-factor. He didn't even set up the Bears offense for good field position. That's still about 20 points a game, with just the Bears offense.

[dmbhoosier21]

Rex has been back for 10 quarters, plus a few minutes of overtime. In that time the Bears have put up 74 points. 14 of those belong to Hester. So the actual Bears offense only 60.

Which isn't bad since against Oakland and Seattle Hester was a total non-factor. He didn't even set up the Bears offense for good field position. That's still about 20 points a game, with just the Bears offense.

Huh, didn't know that.

But still, no offense but if I had a decent defense, I'd still take my chances with the Bears offense rather than giving Hester any opportunities.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Hester puts the ICK in kick off.

[Tiduwho]

Hester puts the ICK in kick off.

I'd say he puts the "off" in kickoff if anything.

[Tiduwho]

Hester does it again. How many is Hester away from the All Time record now?


Remember how he was supposed to just be a flash in the pan and do nothing this year? People kick away from him 80% of the time and he still is returning kicks for TD's. :lol

[DMBZeppelin]

-Devin Hester Record Watch 07'-

Most Punt Returns in a Career
Current Record: 10, held by Eric Metcalf
Devin Hester: 7

Most Kick Returns in a Career
Current Record: 6, held by 5 players
Devin Hester: 4

Most Returns (Combined) in a Career
Current Record: 13, held by Brian Mitchell
Devin Hester: ~11

~Missed Field Goal Against Giants, and Super Bowl kick return don't count in the record books.

Most Punt Returns in a Season
Current Record: 4, held by Jack Christiansen, Rick Upchurch, and now Hester
Devin Hester 07': 4

Most Kick Returns in a Season
Current Record: 4, held by Travis Williams and Cecil Turner
Devin Hester 07': 2

Most Returns (Combined) in a Season
Current Record: ~6
Devin Hester 07': 6

~ Hester's 6 this year is the record for most combined kick returns in a year. He had 6 combined returns last year, but only 5 were kick returns. The other was the missed field goal return against the Giants.

*Hester is tied for the most kickoff returns, and and kick returns for Touchdowns in a game (2). Which he has done multiple times. The Punt Return for Touchdowns in a game is only 2 as well, which you'd have to believe he'll eventually break.
* First person to ever return the opening kickoff in the Super Bowl for a touchdown.
*Hester set a single-game franchise record with 314 Kick Return yards, which is second all time to the Saints Tyrone Hughes who had 347
*Hester set a single-game franchise record for Punt Return yards with 152, and he nearly tied it in Week 12 of the 07' season against the Broncos with 151 punt return yards.
*Has made the Pro Bowl both years in the league.
*Won Week 2 NFC Special Team Player of the Week, 4th time in Career
*Won Sept. NFC Special Team Player of the Month, 2nd time in Career
*Hester previously tied for the record for longest play (108 yards), but that record has since fallen.

[bothedmbfan]

If Hester keeps this up (Which, if people are going to continue to be retarded and kick to him, I don't see why not) should he be a hall of famer?

[DMBZeppelin]

As of right now Hester has 20 receptions for 299 yards with 2 touchdowns this year.

[DMBZeppelin]

If Hester keeps this up (Which, if people are going to continue to be retarded and kick to him, I don't see why not) should he be a hall of famer?
Without a doubt. Hester is on the verge of passing up people who played a full career. I know there's only one kicker in the HOF. I don't believe any punter is, even though Ray Guy needs to be voted in. But I think all positions should be in the Hall of Fame.

I've never seen a kick returner have this big of an effect on any game. As he's light years ahead of anyone before him. There's no reason that Hester shouldn't be the first returner voted into the HOF.

[bothedmbfan]

Of course if they continue to develop him at WR; that won't hurt him either.

[dmbhoosier21]

If Hester keeps this up (Which, if people are going to continue to be retarded and kick to him, I don't see why not) should he be a hall of famer?

No, b/c teams will finally stop kicking to him ..... wait a sec, I said the same thing in the beginning of the season, huh :confused

[1eyed_jack]

every time a team kicks it out of bounds or squibs it, it's just another vote for him. he can never return another kickoff and should still be a hall of famer because the bears will have the highest starting field position for the next 8 years

[davehead86]

every time a team kicks it out of bounds or squibs it, it's just another vote for him. he can never return another kickoff and should still be a hall of famer because the bears will have the highest starting field position for the next 8 years

Its the truth.


The man physically changes an entire teams aspect on how to attack the Bears. Its something that you normally only see for players like LT or Brady or Romo. Just amazing, if the Bears loose him it will be the biggest mistake ever.

[davehead86]

As of right now Hester has 20 receptions for 299 yards with 2 touchdowns this year.

And how mayn times has he actually been in the game, its so infrequent that numbers like that astound me. He needs to be a WR and a returner.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Look at Hester's records .... now imagine if every team was kicking to him 100% of the time.

They would be off the charts my friends.

I would say he was actually kicked to 20-30% of the time. By that I mean the ball was kicked directly to his hands. Sure there is probably a higher percentage of him picking up the ball after a squib kick but he had very few chances to make plays.

Out of those few chances he broke many records, thats amazing.

But I think the most amazing of all is that it took Hester 2 years to break records that took mortal men 12 or more to accomplish and that's WITHOUT being kicked to 100% of the time.

Easily one the best and most exciting players in the league.

[kurz41]

Why didn't Devin Hester get anything for Christmas?


Cause he'd probably return it.

(corny, I know, but I had to...)

[gocubsgo3822]

dear devin hester,

i love you that is all.

[Norman Smiley]

Devin hester is the best ever at what he does, but the entire specials teams play deserves more. They are totally overlooked. Do you think he would be this good with bad special teams?

[amoore624426]

good for him...the most exciting player is 0-1 in super bowls and now watching the rest of the season from his couch..

[1eyed_jack]

0-1 in superbowls is kinda impressive considering he's only been n the league a few years :lol

[DMBZeppelin]

good for him...the most exciting player is 0-1 in super bowls and now watching the rest of the season from his couch..
He did his job, the defense just got torn to shreds.

[DreamingTree#41]

He is one of the most exciting players, WHEN the ball is kicked to him.

[DMBZeppelin]

He is one of the most exciting players, WHEN the ball is kicked to him.
- He has 11 TD's in 32 games. The record is 13 which was done in 223 games.

- First player in NFL history to accumulate at least 600 punt-return yards in two seasons.

- Since the NFL started announcing player of the week awards for each conference in 1984, Hester’s seven special teams honors are tied with Hall for the most among return men.

Just some stuff to add to that Hester list next time I update it. But I agree with your point. When the ball is kicked to him. Thanks to wind and stuff, somtimes a punt stays in bounds, ect. If he just keeps up with his current pace he'll have 5-6 returns next year. Which would put him at 16-17 and thus he'd have shattered the record. He'd only be at 48 games after next season.

[DMBZeppelin]

Devin Hester has been named to the Associated Press 2007 NFL All-Pro team for the second straight year.

So how many consecutive years will Hester make the Pro Bowl and/or AP All-Pro team?

[Tiduwho]

Devin Hester has been named to the Associated Press 2007 NFL All-Pro team for the second straight year.

So how many consecutive years will Hester make the Pro Bowl and/or AP All-Pro team?

He's just gotta stay healthy...