who wins: cowboys or patriots?...and why? [Archive]

crashintonickdm

10-08-2007, 01:42 AM

cowboys keep it close, but pats win this one by picking apart the dallas secondary...look what thy did today when brady mostly ignored moss. that's a hard pass attack to stop, and i dont think the cowboys can do enough else to make up for it.

our offense statistically is a tad better than new england. plus cowboys defense is getting better every week.

UCFish

10-08-2007, 01:44 AM

Samuel comes up with a big pick allowing the Pats to hold on.

41ravens

10-08-2007, 01:45 AM

i hope you didn't just jinx us for tomorrow night.

but i went cowboys. for obvious reasons. and i'm pretty much banking it on homefield advantage. cause these teams are both pretty fucking good right now.

seekupig

10-08-2007, 01:47 AM

i hope the Cowboys win, but i think the Pats will pull it out. i think their experience in big games will be the difference... but it'll be a close game.

Mario82288

10-08-2007, 01:54 AM

No comment until after Monday night

ProudestAnt

10-08-2007, 02:04 AM

Moss is going to come across the middle and get laid out by RW...

VanHorneDog

10-08-2007, 02:09 AM

cowboys becuase i fucking hate the patriots.

crashintome202

10-08-2007, 02:13 AM

pats because its the pats and they have douchebag brady while the cowboys have shithead tony romo. take your asshole.

chr35919

10-08-2007, 02:17 AM

pats because its the pats and they have douchebag brady while the cowboys have shithead tony romo. take your asshole.but jeter is worse than both:lol

crashintome202

10-08-2007, 02:17 AM

but jeter is worse than both:lol
jeter is an asshole but i dont know if hes on romo and brady level, he hides it too well.

VanHorneDog

10-08-2007, 02:17 AM

pats because its the pats and they have douchebag brady while the cowboys have shithead tony romo. take your asshole.

in a race, its the one who cheats first to win.

DING DING DING, we have a cheater! :lol

SoMuchToSay_07

10-08-2007, 02:41 AM

Romo has been pretty unstoppable as of late, but the Patriot's passing game is so tight and on fire right now, Brady and Moss are an unbeatable combo.

I'm gonna have to go with the Patriots

Rockhound18

10-08-2007, 04:56 AM

The Patriots because they are the better team. :lol

rickyh24

10-08-2007, 08:37 AM

pats, they are better...

rickyh24

10-08-2007, 08:40 AM

its going to be a shootout. we have more of a running game than the patriots, recievers are about equal. defense is about equal.

ill pick dallas because of homefield advantage. and either way, itll be a hell of a game.

pats -- 173 rushing yards per game

cowboys -- 124 rushing yards per game

rickyh24

10-08-2007, 08:43 AM

our offense statistically is a tad better than new england. plus cowboys defense is getting better every week.

Pats -- TOTAL OFFENSIVE YARDS 2139

cowboys -- TOTAL OFFENSIVE YARDS 1763

LisaC

10-08-2007, 08:48 AM

Patriots, I think Romo will crack under pressure.

jimibadfish

10-08-2007, 11:42 AM

The Pats because they have completely dominated every team they have played this year in every way.

Too bad the pretty boy didn't throw the goddamn ball to Moss yesterday, thus, costing me my fantasy game and ending my hopes at an undefeated season. Fucking Brady!! But seriously, he's a bad ass anyway.

dmbmuskie

10-08-2007, 11:47 AM

I think the Pats will win, but wouldn't be surprised if the Cowboys win. I'm not as high on the Pats as most people.

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waywayNCSU

10-08-2007, 02:11 PM

Too bad the pretty boy didn't throw the goddamn ball to Moss yesterday, thus, costing me my fantasy game and ending my hopes at an undefeated season. Fucking Brady!! But seriously, he's a bad ass anyway.

The Browns pretty much double covered him on every play of the game.

saygdbye4134

10-08-2007, 02:15 PM

I have been looking forward to this game for a few weeks now....

I loathe the Pats, but I have to pick 'em. the Boys D is just not able to withstand what the Pats have going on.

loogs91

10-08-2007, 02:44 PM

i'm a fan of both teams (so this season is going great so far, first of all), but i think the Pats D has the experience to shut down a very talented, but still inexperienced Romo. A couple key plays by Bruschi, adelius thomas, Samuel or harrison could very easily turn this one around. I'm very excited about this game. other than pats-colts and possibly pats-steelers, this will be the most exciting game of the year for NE.

dmbmuskie

10-08-2007, 02:58 PM

dmbmuskie

10-08-2007, 03:00 PM

I have been looking forward to this game for a few weeks now....

I loathe the Pats, but I have to pick 'em. the Boys D is just not able to withstand what the Pats have going on.

I can see Williams or Hamlin laying out Moss or Stallworth, which could change the game. No one is going to confuse those 2 for guys who like contact.

dmbgodagirl41

10-08-2007, 05:02 PM

Patriots D > Cowboys O
Patriots O > Cowboys D

Patriots. By 10.

rickyh24

10-08-2007, 05:03 PM

Patriots D > Cowboys O
Patriots O > Cowboys D

Patriots. By 10.

yeah but only if you go by the numbers :D

Snapple2788

10-08-2007, 05:04 PM

bills

dmbgodagirl41

10-08-2007, 05:05 PM

yeah but only if you go by the numbers :D

:lol whoops, forgot that making sense when it comes to match-ups just isnt cool!

groton

10-08-2007, 05:14 PM

Pats
there defense and Tom Brady to Randy Moss for game winning TD :)

smeritt

10-08-2007, 05:42 PM

This started off in favor of the cowboys like 11-2 then all the damn pats fans came out. Stupid new englanders

dmblynny

10-08-2007, 05:43 PM

I vote Pats cuz I just hate Dallas. Enough said. :haha

dmblynny

10-08-2007, 05:43 PM

Double Post! Oopsy!

icanfeeltherain

10-08-2007, 05:44 PM

I vote Pats cuz I just hate Dallas. Enough said. :haha
I'm with you, only for a different reason

smeritt

10-08-2007, 05:45 PM

But the boys CB's are too weak to hang with Moss and Stallworth. So although I think it's gonig to be a shootout. Realistically I have the Pats taking it. It's my cowboy fanness that makes me want the cowboys to win

dmblynny

10-08-2007, 05:47 PM

I'm with you, only for a different reason
Reason being??? You obviously know what mine is. :p

dmbgodagirl41

10-08-2007, 05:48 PM

This started off in favor of the cowboys like 11-2 then all the damn pats fans came out. Stupid new englanders

or just people who know shit about football and don't claim that a QB is "the real deal" just because they beat hardcore teams like Miami or St. Louis.

icanfeeltherain

10-08-2007, 05:51 PM

Reason being??? You obviously know what mine is. :p
Redskins fan.

dmblynny

10-08-2007, 05:52 PM

or just people who know shit about football and don't claim that a QB is "the real deal" just because they beat hardcore teams like Miami or St. Louis.
:lol

dmblynny

10-08-2007, 05:53 PM

Redskins fan.
Ahhhhh, I see, I see. NFC Easters must stick together! :haha (Unless we're playing each other that is.):p

dmbgodagirl41

10-08-2007, 05:54 PM

:lol

I mean, it's not like NE has beat anyone who is GREAT but c'mon now. That'd be like saying GB is going to win the super bowl based on the fact that Favre woke up and decided that the most INT is not a record he wants to break.

icanfeeltherain

10-08-2007, 05:55 PM

Ahhhhh, I see, I see. NFC Easters must stick together! :haha (Unless we're playing each other that is.):p
Agreed:thumbsup

smeritt

10-08-2007, 05:58 PM

I mean, it's not like NE has beat anyone who is GREAT but c'mon now. That'd be like saying GB is going to win the super bowl based on the fact that Favre woke up and decided that the most INT is not a record he wants to break.
I'm glad you said that because i was about to tear you a new one. To rag on the Cowboys for having an easy schedule would be crazy as a pats fan. The jets, and abysmal san diego team, the bills, a cincy defense that ended the game with like 2 line backers, and the browns. It's not like the Pats tore apart the Steelers.

dmbgodagirl41

10-08-2007, 06:00 PM

I'm glad you said that because i was about to tear you a new one. To rag on the Cowboys for having an easy schedule would be crazy as a pats fan. The jets, and abysmal san diego team, the bills, a cincy defense that ended the game with like 2 line backers, and the browns. It's not like the Pats tore apart the Steelers.

Nah, i understand that NE hasn't beaten any great teams, either, but at least before NE beat them everyone "thought" they were good.

groton

10-08-2007, 06:01 PM

This started off in favor of the cowboys like 11-2 then all the damn pats fans came out. Stupid new englanders

I'm not a pats fan I'm a 49ers fan
sure I hate the Cowboy's more then i Dislike the pats

dmblynny

10-08-2007, 06:02 PM

I mean, it's not like NE has beat anyone who is GREAT but c'mon now. That'd be like saying GB is going to win the super bowl based on the fact that Favre woke up and decided that the most INT is not a record he wants to break.:lol
Not to mention how early in the season it is... ANYTHING is possible in the NFL... then again I have to be over optomistic cuz my team is the worst team in its division right now and I'm hoping for some sort of miracle to happen. :haha
But really, NE has done a pretty good job of not only beating but pretty much crushing their opponents tho. I don't think they'd give up 35 pts to the Giants but I guess I'm kinda bias. :rolleyes

smeritt

10-08-2007, 06:04 PM

Nah, i understand that NE hasn't beaten any great teams, either, but at least before NE beat them everyone "thought" they were good.Uh IDK whoever thought the Jets, Bills, Browns and Cincy were going to have stellar defenses or teams altogether should be shot. Mind you Cincy should be better offensively it wasnt a shock NE tore them a new one. Now San Diego is the one team that EVERYONE thought was gonig to be good. So thats ok. But I'd say the Cowboys have faces more " challenges" before everyone realized flaws than the Pats

dmbmuskie

10-08-2007, 06:04 PM

smeritt

10-08-2007, 06:05 PM

:lol
Not to mention how early in the season it is... ANYTHING is possible in the NFL... then again I have to be over optomistic cuz my team is the worst team in its division right now and I'm hoping for some sort of miracle to happen. :haha
But really, NE has done a pretty good job of not only beating but pretty much crushing their opponents tho. I don't think they'd give up 35 pts to the Giants but I guess I'm kinda bias. :rolleyes
I bugged out that game. I wasn't even happy they won. I was like uh isn't Wade Phillips a fuckign former defensive coordinator what is this shit. But they have settled as of late.

smeritt

10-08-2007, 06:06 PM

I don't know why people think the Cowboys secondary is so weak. Williams, Hamlin, Henry and Newman are actually pretty good to very good. The defense is still learning a new system, and is going to get better every week.

Outside of Brady, I like the 'boys better on offense.

My gut tells me that the Pats will win, but I think by the playoffs these two teams will be fairly even. Tank Johnson is going to make a huge difference.I agree with mostly everything. The problem I have with the secondary is consitency. It has been a long time since they have been consistent. Williams is the worst coverage safety in the league in case you havent been watching the past couple years. He will knock your ass out but only after giving up a 30 yard catch

dmbmuskie

10-08-2007, 06:09 PM

I agree with mostly everything. The problem I have with the secondary is consitency. It has been a long time since they have been consistent. Williams is the worst coverage safety in the league in case you havent been watching the past couple years. He will knock your ass out but only after giving up a 30 yard catch

I know, but Hamlin was going to allow him to focus more on hitting and less on coverage.

Next week will be a big test to see how that has worked out.

smeritt

10-08-2007, 06:10 PM

He gets beat too many times to not work on it. But whatever. We shall see

dmblynny

10-08-2007, 06:24 PM

I bugged out that game. I wasn't even happy they won. I was like uh isn't Wade Phillips a fuckign former defensive coordinator what is this shit. But they have settled as of late.
:thumbsup

They're coming along tho...

Unfortunately.:haha :o

Next week will be the biggest test all season for both those teams.

thebestauntie

10-08-2007, 06:45 PM

This started off in favor of the cowboys like 11-2 then all the damn pats fans came out. Stupid new englanders
Hey! :twak :p :D .

I picked the Pats because of all the reasons the other people who picked the Pats did. That and I'm a homer! :D

smeritt

10-08-2007, 06:48 PM

Hey! :twak :p :D .

I picked the Pats because of all the reasons the other people who picked the Pats did. That and I'm a homer! :D
No one wants your opinion skank

BellybuttonKid

10-08-2007, 07:56 PM

its going to be a shootout. we have more of a running game than the patriots, recievers are about equal. defense is about equal.

ill pick dallas because of homefield advantage. and either way, itll be a hell of a game.

I disagree. The running games are about the same, and the Pats defense is much better than the Dallas defense.

BellybuttonKid

10-08-2007, 07:57 PM

Moss is going to come across the middle and get laid out by RW...

Roy Williams SUCKS.

BellybuttonKid

10-08-2007, 08:02 PM

Uh IDK whoever thought the Jets, Bills, Browns and Cincy were going to have stellar defenses or teams altogether should be shot. Mind you Cincy should be better offensively it wasnt a shock NE tore them a new one. Now San Diego is the one team that EVERYONE thought was gonig to be good. So thats ok. But I'd say the Cowboys have faces more " challenges" before everyone realized flaws than the Pats

There were people that thought the Jets would be good.

The Cowboys have faced Miami, St Louis, Washington, a depleted Chicago team....No one thought any of them would be good.

Both teams have had it somewhat easier so far, but the Cowboys have had it a little bit easier.

The Pats will win the game because they are a better team, it's that simple. I want to see what Romo can do when he faces a good defense that is relatively healthy.

Mario82288

10-08-2007, 08:06 PM

... a depleted Chicago team...The Pats will win the game because they are a better team, it's that simple. I want to see what Romo can do when he faces a good defense that is relatively healthy.

The Bears defense was healthy going into the game. Briggs, Harris, Tillman and Vasher were all injured in the game.

dmbmuskie

10-08-2007, 08:07 PM

I disagree. The running games are about the same, and the Pats defense is much better than the Dallas defense.

I think Dallas has the weapons to attack the Pats weakness, which is speed in the back 7.

The Browns had some success doing this. I said earlier the Browns gave the game away, but that's not true. The Browns gave away a chance to win the game

BellybuttonKid

10-08-2007, 08:18 PM

The Bears defense was healthy going into the game. Briggs, Harris, Tillman and Vasher were all injured in the game.
And once they did get hurt, Dallas put most of their points up....

Don't get me wrong though, it's going ot be a close game, but Pats will win.

Fishbulb290

10-08-2007, 08:51 PM

You'd think listening to the commentary right now on ESPN the Cowboys/Pats game is tonight...

SoRight24

10-08-2007, 08:53 PM

The better team does not ALWAYS win.

So even if the Pats are better, that doesn't mean they will win.

Doesn't mean they will lose either, but still.

dmbmuskie

10-08-2007, 08:55 PM

You'd think listening to the commentary right now on ESPN the Cowboys/Pats game is tonight...

It's hard to get into tonight's game.

Wouldn't Seattle vs Pittsburgh or San Diego vs Denver made more sense, even if they turned out to be shitty games?

SoRight24

10-08-2007, 08:58 PM

It's hard to get into tonight's game.

Wouldn't Seattle vs Pittsburgh or San Diego vs Denver made more sense, even if they turned out to be shitty games?

Yeah, wtf, the Bills haven't been relevant since the Jim Kelly days. :thumbsdow

Fishbulb290

10-08-2007, 09:20 PM

I don't know the exact number of years but it's been a while since the Bills have been on MNF.

On a slightly related note if the 'boys win tonight it will be the 40th win on MNF for the franchise. :thumbsup

dmbgodagirl41

10-08-2007, 10:30 PM

Playoffs?! PLAYOFFS? Don't...don't talk to me about PLAYOFFS. I just hope we can win a game!

rickyh24

10-08-2007, 10:53 PM

tony romo and the cowboys are getting Pwned by the bills.....

its actually painful to watch...

dmbgodagirl41

10-08-2007, 10:54 PM

wtf, i needed dallas defense points tonight to win my fantasy league.

:lorraine

and yet
:lol

dmbmuskie

10-09-2007, 01:16 AM

I'm changing my pick. I'll take the Cowboys. Once they got their act together I really like what I saw, and how it will work against the evil empire.

rickyh24

10-09-2007, 01:22 AM

I'm changing my pick. I'll take the Cowboys. Once they got their act together I really like what I saw, and how it will work against the evil empire.

:lol :lol

yeah against the bills..they wont comeback like that against that pats

dmbmuskie

10-09-2007, 01:24 AM

:lol :lol

yeah against the bills..they wont comeback like that against that pats

It was a trap game. They'll be focused, playing at home, and I like the way they play vs the Pats defense.

dmbhoosier21

10-09-2007, 01:24 AM

:lol :lol

yeah against the bills..they wont comeback like that against that pats

I don't think so either, but I think the Cowboys can compete with the Pats. There is no question who's the better team but the Cowboys have a good shot at it.

41ravens

10-09-2007, 01:25 AM

witten is going to be huge next week. i predict a big game against the older, slower new england linebackers.

dmbmuskie

10-09-2007, 01:27 AM

witten is going to be huge next week. i predict a big game against the older, slower new england linebackers.

Pats fans ignore that. I've been preaching that since they lost to the Colts last season.

As smart as Vrabel, Seau, and Tedy are, they're scary slow at this point. The same goes for Harrison.

chr35919

10-09-2007, 04:16 PM

well, this surely came into focus last night

ProudestAnt

10-09-2007, 04:18 PM

New England by at least 2 TDs. After last night, Dallas will be lucky to have fans in the seats after the third quarter...

dmbgodagirl41

10-09-2007, 04:20 PM

Pats fans ignore that. I've been preaching that since they lost to the Colts last season.

As smart as Vrabel, Seau, and Tedy are, they're scary slow at this point. The same goes for Harrison.

yeah that's why seau had 2 INT against the Brows. What a slow dude. :lol

RhodyDMBFan

10-09-2007, 04:51 PM

You cannot be a fan of both teams. You're only allowed to support one team.

:twenty4 Don't be a sports bygamist.

That's not true...especially with football. I'm a Giants and Patriots fan. When they play eachother, I root for the Giants.

I think the Pats will roll over the Cowboys. Tony Romo is so over hyped it's unreal.

waywayNCSU

10-09-2007, 05:03 PM

It was a trap game. They'll be focused, playing at home, and I like the way they play vs the Pats defense.

I'll be willing to bet they overlooked the Bills too, since they've got a short week this week.

CUTiger41

10-09-2007, 05:04 PM

27-24. Cowboys.

TwoStep2888

10-09-2007, 05:04 PM

yeah that's why seau had 2 INT against the Browns. What a slow dude. :lol

Eh, interceptions don't necessarily equal speed. Defensive linemen get them from time to time. Seau's a smart LB. He knows where he has to be to break up a play, but he really is slowing down with age.

waywayNCSU

10-09-2007, 05:05 PM

yeah that's why seau had 2 INT against the Brows. What a slow dude. :lol

Right place at the right time doesn't mean he's fast. Smart, but not fast.

swampdonkey

10-09-2007, 05:37 PM

dmbgodagirl41

10-09-2007, 05:41 PM

Right place at the right time doesn't mean he's fast. Smart, but not fast.
after one, didn't he then proceed to run a complete circle around the Bengals? Not that he's a speed-demon or anything, but to call him slow is a little harsh.

:lol and to think, he had 2 elbows last year.

SoRight24

10-09-2007, 05:44 PM

Seau is like 80 years old.

He should retire.

dmbhoosier21

10-09-2007, 05:46 PM

Seau is like 80 years old.

He should retire.

:lol he did......for like two days.

SoRight24

10-09-2007, 05:47 PM

:lol he did......for like two days.

Yeah, I remember that.

And then he sold out and joined the Pats. :thumbsdow

dmbgodagirl41

10-09-2007, 05:48 PM

Yeah, I remember that.

And then he sold out and joined the Pats. :thumbsdow

Yeah, cuz almost EVERY franchise was after him at that point.
Oh wait......

SoRight24

10-09-2007, 05:51 PM

Yeah, cuz almost EVERY franchise was after him at that point.
Oh wait......

Huh?

Fishbulb290

10-09-2007, 05:52 PM

I voted Pats. Right now, they are just a better team. You didn't see Buffalo giving them a run for their money did you?

The Cowboys are improving and have a chance, but they haven't faced a defense like this and nobody schemes it up like those NE coaches. I'll go with Patriots by 7.

I'm not going to pull a Tony K. and proclaim Trent Edwards as the next Tom Brady but he did look better than Losman.

Just saying, I'm not trying to take anything away from the Pats. Just that he looked better than Losman in his 2nd game and first as a starter...

dmbgodagirl41

10-09-2007, 05:54 PM

Huh?

:lol I meant its not like Seau retired and he had 198394 offers on the table. Belichick was probably like "hey, wanna be yelled at all the time, and not really appreciated by your coach, come play for us!"

swampdonkey

10-09-2007, 05:55 PM

I'm not going to pull a Tony K. and proclaim Trent Edwards as the next Tom Brady but he did look better than Losman.

Just saying, I'm not trying to take anything away from the Pats. Just that he looked better than Losman in his 2nd game and first as a starter...

I completely agree that edwards looked a lot better than JP, but edwards played most of the Pats game too. He led the bills only scoring drive I believe.

SoRight24

10-09-2007, 05:55 PM

:lol I meant its not like Seau retired and he had 198394 offers on the table. Belichick was probably like "hey, wanna be yelled at all the time, and not really appreciated by your coach, come play for us!"

But if he still wanted to play, why not just stay with Miami?

I think he just did is as a scape goat to get out of Miami, which is real classy.

Not saying the Pats did anything wrong by signing him, it was just wrong on his part.

dmbgodagirl41

10-09-2007, 05:56 PM

But if he still wanted to play, why not just stay with Miami?

I think he just did is as a scape goat to get out of Miami, which is real classy.

Not saying the Pats did anything wrong by signing him, it was just wrong on his part.

I think we can both agree that Miami can suck a big fat one. A big fat what, i dunno, but they can suck it :)

dmbhoosier21

10-09-2007, 05:56 PM

:lol I meant its not like Seau retired and he had 198394 offers on the table. Belichick was probably like "hey, wanna be yelled at all the time, and not really appreciated by your coach, come play for us!"

He wants a championship.......too bad a great player like Seau isn't gonna get one; oh well he had a nice career. :)

SoRight24

10-09-2007, 05:57 PM

I think we can both agree that Miami can suck a big fat one. A big fat what, i dunno, but they can suck it :)

True. :lol

But still a bitch move on Seau's part.

dmbgodagirl41

10-09-2007, 05:58 PM

He wants a championship.......too bad a great player like Seau isn't gonna get one; oh well he had a nice career. :)

cough*i hope peyton burns in a fire that was started by a master card*cough

dmbhoosier21

10-09-2007, 06:00 PM

cough*i hope peyton burns in a fire that was started by a master card*cough

*Gasp* Blasphemer :violent

dmbgodagirl41

10-09-2007, 06:02 PM

*Gasp* Blasphemer :violent

you betta BUH-RING IT.
and get ready for a nice tommy avatar in a few weeks. muahahahahhahaa:evil

Fishbulb290

10-09-2007, 06:02 PM

I completely agree that edwards looked a lot better than JP, but edwards played most of the Pats game too. He led the bills only scoring drive I believe.

I just think it means a lot more to start and actually be ready. He knew and the rest of the team knew he was their starting QB (Dallas game). Kind of demoralizing when your starter gets hurt on the first series (Pats game).

Still the Pats raped Buffalo much like I expected Dallas to.

dmbgodagirl41

10-09-2007, 06:02 PM

to be fair, that last 3 minutes was complete no-lube rapage, Fishy.

Fishbulb290

10-09-2007, 06:03 PM

to be fair, that last 3 minutes was complete no-lube rapage, Fishy.

Dallas on Buffalo rapage?

dmbgodagirl41

10-09-2007, 06:03 PM

Dallas on Buffalo rapage?

Yeah. I bet every Bills player walked off rubbing their ass after that 2-minute warning.

Munford

10-09-2007, 10:49 PM

I hope they tie.. I hate both..

Munford

10-09-2007, 10:49 PM

I hope they tie.. I hate both..

Fishbulb290

10-10-2007, 01:04 AM

Almost the entire country will be watching this one...

http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2007-06-CBS2.html

rickyh24

10-10-2007, 01:08 AM

Almost the entire country will be watching this one...

http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2007-06-CBS2.html

wow thats some cool shit....

Fishbulb290

10-10-2007, 01:10 AM

Great site I found earlier this year. Helps me figure out if I have to go to a bar to watch the cowboys play...

rickyh24

10-10-2007, 01:12 AM

Great site I found earlier this year. Helps me figure out if I have to go to a bar to watch the cowboys play...

whats the gray area??? "shit out of luck"?

Fishbulb290

10-10-2007, 01:14 AM

Blackout rules. Read them on the site. They still confuse me so I'm not going to bother trying to explain them to you.

rickyh24

10-10-2007, 01:17 AM

Blackout rules. Read them on the site. They still confuse me so I'm not going to bother trying to explain them to you.

:lol ok i was just wondering

Fishbulb290

10-10-2007, 01:18 AM

http://the506.com/nflmaps/

They are at the bottom of this page. I still don't 100% understand it though.

rickyh24

10-10-2007, 01:35 AM

http://the506.com/nflmaps/

They are at the bottom of this page. I still don't 100% understand it though.

yeah thats kinda weird..too much thinking for me right now.

dmbgodagirl41

10-10-2007, 10:38 AM

Translation: Everyone hates Arizona.

Jsweeney

10-10-2007, 10:43 AM

i think the cowboys will play much smarter on offense this weekend, after the mess they made against Bills...I think though it will be a battle of offenses and that the Pats have a better offesnive unit than the boys...calling a 35-21 shootout...Pats victory...although I am sure Texas stadium will be rocking and that may prove worthy of a few points in their favor.

41ravens

10-10-2007, 10:45 AM

Almost the entire country will be watching this one...

http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2007-06-CBS2.html

thank you! i was looking all over for this site yesterday to see if the game would be on. i figured it would be, but i just wanted to make sure.

dmbmuskie

10-10-2007, 11:00 AM

I love DirecTV. I never had to worry about not being able to see a game.

rickyh24

10-10-2007, 11:25 AM

I love DirecTV. I never had to worry about not being able to see a game.

when i move to Florida me and my buddy are getting the NFL package i would go crazy not being able to watch the Pats every weekend...

darbini

10-10-2007, 11:58 AM

My opponent this weekend for fantasy f'ball has these Cowboy starting:
Tony Romo QB
Marion Barber RB
Patrick Crayton WR
Nick Folk K
Roy Williams DB

Meanwhile I have New Englands Defense, this should be interesting!

DMBZeppelin

10-10-2007, 12:35 PM

I posted this in the NFL thread, but it probably should go here. I was reading an article on ESPN.com and thought this was interesting:

Both New England and Dallas have legitimate shots at breaking the Minnesota Vikings' NFL record for points scored in a season. Through five games in 1998, the Vikings were averaging 34.8 points per game (they scored 556 points that season). The Patriots currently lead the league with an average of 36.4 points per game, while the Cowboys are producing 35.2 per contest. …

One more thing to note before the hype starts for Sunday's Patriots-Cowboys showdown: They haven't played anybody good yet. New England's opposition has a combined record of 7-17. The Cowboys have faced teams that are 6-19 overall.

thebestauntie

10-10-2007, 12:38 PM

Here's my prediction for the game: One of the teams will no longer be undefeated. You can take that to the bank! :thumbsup

dmbgodagirl41

10-10-2007, 12:40 PM

swampdonkey

10-10-2007, 12:57 PM

Here's my prediction for the game: One of the teams will no longer be undefeated. You can take that to the bank! :thumbsup

I want to see a tie.

Fishbulb290

10-11-2007, 12:07 AM

Cowboys are +6.5 as of 5 minutes ago...

Munford

10-11-2007, 12:15 AM

I hope they tie.. I hate both.. Romo is a fluke.. I'm tired of all the Romo worship

crashintonickdm

10-11-2007, 12:48 AM

I hope they tie.. I hate both.. Romo is a fluke.. I'm tired of all the Romo worship

how is he a fluke? im curious.

you're either an eagles fan, or just flat out ignorant.

DMBZeppelin

10-11-2007, 01:52 AM

Cowboys are +6.5 as of 5 minutes ago...
Cowboys are favored? :lol The 1-4 Bills gave them all they could handle. I'm an NFC guy, but NFC<<<<<<<AFC. An elite AFC team like the Pats should DESTORY the Cowboys. I know the Cowboys are at home, but so what.

crashintonickdm

10-11-2007, 01:55 AM

Cowboys are favored? :lol The 1-4 Bills gave them all they could handle. I'm an NFC guy, but NFC<<<<<<<AFC. An elite AFC team like the Pats should DESTORY the Cowboys. I know the Cowboys are at home, but so what.

okay man. i can understand the AFC vs. NFC deal. but why is everyone saying its definately going to be a patriots win?

everyone said that about the colts in 2006 too when they came to dallas undefeated.

ProudestAnt

10-11-2007, 01:57 AM

Cowboys are favored? :lol The 1-4 Bills gave them all they could handle. I'm an NFC guy, but NFC<<<<<<<AFC. An elite AFC team like the Pats should DESTORY the Cowboys. I know the Cowboys are at home, but so what. Bets don't start flowing until Thursday. Watch how fast the spread drops tomorrow...

DMBZeppelin

10-11-2007, 01:57 AM

In place of the usually talkative receiver, reporters found at Owens' locker Wednesday a nearly poster-sized, typewritten note:

"Dear Reporters,

"Due to the magnitude of this week's game and high volume of questions for the Original 81 about the other 81. I will be taking all questions immediately following Sunday's game.

"Sincerely, (followed by Owens' signature)

"p.s. Getcha Popcorn Ready."

The "other 81" was an obvious reference to Moss, the controversial five-time Pro Bowl receiver who after two difficult years in Oakland is flourishing in his first season with the Patriots.

Owens' postscript referred to his "get your popcorn ready" comment made when he signed with the Cowboys in the summer of 2006 -- before he caught an NFL-high 13 TDs in his Dallas debut. Owens has 21 catches for 387 yards and three TDs this season.

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 01:58 AM

okay man. i can understand the AFC vs. NFC deal. but why is everyone saying its definately going to be a patriots win?

everyone said that about the colts in 2006 too when they came to dallas undefeated.

Most people cannot think logically about the situation.

Pats fans and most of America must forget when the Pats were pulling upsets against unbeatable teams.

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 01:59 AM

There's a Pats tax on the game. It's a pick em', with a 3 point home field and 3 point Pats tax.

ShotgunDMB

10-11-2007, 02:00 AM

Patriots. Tom Brady. Randy Moss. Daunte Stallworth. Wes Welker. Ben Watson. Lawrence Maroney. That's ridiculous talent. Oh yeah, the defense is pretty stellar too.

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 02:01 AM

Patriots. Tom Brady. Randy Moss. Daunte Stallworth. Wes Welker. Ben Watson. Lawrence Maroney. That's ridiculous talent. Oh yeah, the defense is pretty stellar too.

Maroney has been very impressive this year.:ugh

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 02:03 AM

Maroney has been very impressive this year.:ugh

when he has played he hasn't been bad....plus morris is playing great anyways..the pats are averaging over 130 yards rushing a game...

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 02:03 AM

when he has played he hasn't been bad....plus morris is playing great anyways..the pats are averaging over 130 yards rushing a game...

He's basically been hurt his whole career.

DMBZeppelin

10-11-2007, 02:06 AM

okay man. i can understand the AFC vs. NFC deal. but why is everyone saying its definately going to be a patriots win?

everyone said that about the colts in 2006 too when they came to dallas undefeated.
The 2006 Colts weren't that good. During the regular season they had a horrible defense, and anyone could run on them. Manning kept them alive by winning constant shoot outs.

Do the Cowboys have a good offense? Yes, but the Patriots is better. Tom Brady is a better QB then Romo. If anyone says otherwise they're just plain insane. I feel Moss is a better reciever, but we'll call it a draw. Plus stats back up the Pats having the best offense right now. Hell Brady's had 3+ TD's in every game.

Now here's the biggest difference... THE PATRIOTS DEFENSE! A beat up Bears defense held the Cowboys to a field goal in the first half. The Patriots defense hasn't given more then 17 points in a single game this year. The Cowboys defense gave up 35 to the Giants, 20 to Miami (there's a thread in the forums asking if Miami will go 0-16), and 24 to Buffalo who it took a miracle for them to beat. Guess who beat Buffalo 38-7 in Week 3? The Patriots.

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 02:08 AM

He's basically been hurt his whole career.

:confused Maroney or morris?

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 02:09 AM

:confused Maroney or morris?

Maroney, and maybe Morris. Definitely Maroney.

crashintonickdm

10-11-2007, 02:10 AM

The 2006 Colts weren't that good. During the regular season they had a horrible defense, and anyone could run on them. Manning kept them alive by winning constant shoot outs.

Do the Cowboys have a good offense? Yes, but the Patriots is better. Tom Brady is a better QB then Romo. If anyone says otherwise they're just plain insane. I feel Moss is a better reciever, but we'll call it a draw. Plus stats back up the Pats having the best offense right now. Hell Brady's had 3+ TD's in every game.

Now here's the biggest difference... THE PATRIOTS DEFENSE! A beat up Bears defense held the Cowboys to a field goal in the first half. The Patriots defense hasn't given more then 17 points in a single game this year. The Cowboys defense gave up 35 to the Giants, 20 to Miami (there's a thread in the forums asking if Miami will go 0-16), and 24 to Buffalo who it took a miracle for them to beat. Guess who beat Buffalo 38-7 in Week 3? The Patriots.

the cowboys had a horrible time running against them in that game. romo beat them in the air, and the dallas defense haunted peyton. and uh the colts won the super bowl that year. i dont think they sucked. :ugh

i agree with the patriots being great, but i mean saying the cowboys have no shot is kinda odd. key players on defense were out week 1 against the giants too.

points given up by the dallas defense...

week 1: 35
week 2: 20
week 3: 10
week 4: 0
week 5: 3

id say they got better. and they were great monday night. romo put them in such a bad position several times.

ProudestAnt

10-11-2007, 02:11 AM

the cowboys had a horrible time running against them in that game. romo beat them in the air, and the dallas defense haunted peyton. and uh the colts won the super bowl that year. i dont think they sucked. :ugh

i agree with the patriots being great, but i mean saying the cowboys have no shot is kinda odd. key players on defense were out week 1 against the giants too.

points given up by the dallas defense...

week 1: 35
week 2: 20
week 3: 10
week 4: 0
week 5: 3

id say they got better. and they were great monday night. romo put them in such a bad position several times. THEY WERE PLAYING BUFFALO!

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 02:12 AM

Maroney, and maybe Morris. Definitely Maroney.

are you joking?? he was drafted last year....

DMBZeppelin

10-11-2007, 02:13 AM

Most people cannot think logically about the situation.

Pats fans and most of America must forget when the Pats were pulling upsets against unbeatable teams.
Even a blind squirrel will find a nut once in a while. Upsets happen, and they are apart of the NFL. Every week there are teams who win that shouldn't. Yet that's why you play the games. Still on paper the Pats have a big advantage.

crashintonickdm

10-11-2007, 02:14 AM

Even a blind squirrel will find a nut once in a while. Upsets happen, and they are apart of the NFL. Every week there are teams who win that shouldn't. Yet that's why you play the games. Still on paper the Pats have a big advantage.

ya. some people dont understand upsets though. practice squad players arent pro players at some point either. :rolleyes

crashintonickdm

10-11-2007, 02:15 AM

THEY WERE PLAYING BUFFALO!

BUFFALO IS A PRO TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 02:15 AM

are you joking?? he was drafted last year....

He's been banged up most of the time.

ProudestAnt

10-11-2007, 02:15 AM

ya. some people dont understand upsets though. practice squad players arent pro players at some point either. :rolleyes If you're going to talk, talk to me, or at least use my name. Don't be a coward about it...

ProudestAnt

10-11-2007, 02:15 AM

BUFFALO IS A PRO TEAM!!!!!!!!!!! BARELY!

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 02:16 AM

He's been banged up most of the time.

that doesnt make any sense...he backed up dillion last year...and he been hurt 2 games this year..."that classifies as banged up a lot?"

crashintonickdm

10-11-2007, 02:16 AM

If you're going to talk, talk to me, or at least use my name. Don't be a coward about it...

:lol please. dont get ridiculous, this is a internet site.

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 02:17 AM

Even a blind squirrel will find a nut once in a while. Upsets happen, and they are apart of the NFL. Every week there are teams who win that shouldn't. Yet that's why you play the games. Still on paper the Pats have a big advantage.

They're better on the lines and at QB, but that's it.

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 02:17 AM

that doesnt make any sense...he backed up dillion last year...and he been hurt 2 games this year..."that classifies as banged up a lot?"

He backed up Dillion because he was hurt. He was never healthy enough to carry the load.

He's played one good game for the Pats, but that's it.

DMBZeppelin

10-11-2007, 02:21 AM

the cowboys had a horrible time running against them in that game. romo beat them in the air, and the dallas defense haunted peyton. and uh the colts won the super bowl that year. i dont think they sucked. :ugh
Wow, that's sad if they couldn't run on the NFL's worse run defense last year. Colts gave up 173 rushing yards a game. The second to last was St. Louis at 145.4 rushing yards a game.

Also the reason the Colts won the Super Bowl is because Bob Sanders came back, and the defense was magically good. They barely squeaked by KC in a 1st round game that could have gone either way. Then they got past the Ravens somehow. Before pulling off a miracle comeback against the Pats. Then down 14-0 in the Super Bowl. Peyton Manning put the Colts on his shoulder and got himself a ring.

Point being, KC a team they barely got by. Was being talked about as a bottom 10 team before the season started. KC, Ravens, and Bears are all pretty much crap right now. Patriots though was a huge win against a really good team. The 2005 Colts on the other hand, had they won the Super Bowl might have gone down as one of the greatest teams of all time.

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 02:23 AM

He backed up Dillion because he was hurt. He was never healthy enough to carry the load.

He's played one good game for the Pats, but that's it.

he has two games over 100 yds

and several over 80 yds and he hasnt even really been the feature back yet...

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 02:25 AM

The 2005 Colts on the other hand, had they won the Super Bowl might have gone down as one of the greatest teams of all time.

Excpet they lost to the best team of 2004 and 2005 in the playoffs.

I'll always maintain if Casey Hampton is healthy the Steelers win the Super Bowl in 2004. Injuries are part of the game, but the Steelers lost 1 game in 2 years when healthy.

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 02:26 AM

he has two games over 100 yds

and several over 80 yds and he hasnt even really been the feature back yet...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/content?playerId=9607

crashintonickdm

10-11-2007, 02:27 AM

Wow, that's sad if they couldn't run on the NFL's worse run defense last year. Colts gave up 173 rushing yards a game. The second to last was St. Louis at 145.4 rushing yards a game.

Also the reason the Colts won the Super Bowl is because Bob Sanders came back, and the defense was magically good. They barely squeaked by KC in a 1st round game that could have gone either way. Then they got past the Ravens somehow. Before pulling off a miracle comeback against the Pats. Then down 14-0 in the Super Bowl. Peyton Manning put the Colts on his shoulder and got himself a ring.

Point being, KC a team they barely got by. Was being talked about as a bottom 10 team before the season started. KC, Ravens, and Bears are all pretty much crap right now. Patriots though was a huge win against a really good team. The 2005 Colts on the other hand, had they won the Super Bowl might have gone down as one of the greatest teams of all time.

well i guess a defense cant step up 1 week against a team, right? that type of shit never happens, right?

and yeah, the colts werent that good last year....

yep.

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 02:28 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/content?playerId=9607

what is this suppose to tell me? i was saying over the past 2 seasons....

i know how to look up stats

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 02:29 AM

what is this suppose to tell me? i was saying over the past 2 seasons....

i know how to look up stats

That was supposed to be the news section of his profile. It reads injured, injured, injured, injured.

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 02:31 AM

That was supposed to be the news section of his profile. It reads injured, injured, injured, injured.

:lol he missed two games last year, and two this year...hes practicing this week...its not like there is a rush to bring him back with the way Morris is running.

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 02:33 AM

:lol he missed two games last year, and two this year...hes practicing this week...its not like there is a rush to bring him back with the way Morris is running.

You just have to trust me. He's always hurt. I've got an insider with the Pats, who speaks fairly freely with me. I don't think he's lying about this.

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 02:35 AM

You just have to trust me. He's always hurt. I've got an insider with the Pats, who speaks fairly freely with me. I don't think he's lying about this.

:lol :lol silly me... i am just assuming hes not hurt because hes on the field playing most of the time. :rolleyes

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 02:37 AM

:lol :lol silly me... i am just assuming hes not hurt because hes on the field playing most of the time. :rolleyes

He's not on the field as much as the Pats would like.

Fishbulb290

10-11-2007, 02:47 AM

Cowboys are favored? :lol The 1-4 Bills gave them all they could handle. I'm an NFC guy, but NFC<<<<<<<AFC. An elite AFC team like the Pats should DESTORY the Cowboys. I know the Cowboys are at home, but so what.

Actually Pats are favored...

+6.5 for the boys. That's how that works...

Another example, just in case that didn't make sense, the Rams are +10 to the Ravens...

crashintonickdm

10-11-2007, 02:49 AM

Actually Pats are favored...

+6.5 for the boys. That's how that works...

Another example, just in case that didn't make sense, the Rams are +10 to the Ravens...

great. torry holt probably wont do shit for me in fantasy.

DMBZeppelin

10-11-2007, 03:10 AM

Actually Pats are favored...

+6.5 for the boys. That's how that works...

Another example, just in case that didn't make sense, the Rams are +10 to the Ravens...
I'm horrible at understanding gambling. So Pats have to win by 6.5 to cover the spread? If I'm way off sorry for sounding like an idiot.

Fishbulb290

10-11-2007, 03:10 AM

Correct :thumbsup

joshuatrees18

10-11-2007, 10:35 AM

Patriots D > Cowboys O
Patriots O > Cowboys D

Patriots. By 10.

Patriots defence will win the game....Timely turnovers will be the key to victory....And of course how can you bet against Brady!

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 10:50 AM

SoRight24

10-11-2007, 10:52 AM

Anyone see the thing on TO's note to the media today? :lol Oh Jesus, that guy is frigging screwed. 10 bucks says he's out with a fractured spine by halfway through the second quarter.

"Dear Reporters,

"Due to the magnitude of this week's game and high volume of questions for the Original 81 about the other 81. I will be taking all questions immediately following Sunday's game.

"Sincerely, (followed by Owens' signature)

"p.s. Getcha Popcorn Ready."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3057714

Everyone say it with me: TO--shut the fuck up :lol

Everyone say it with me, he is the Patriots secondary's worst nightmare. :lol

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 10:53 AM

Everyone say it with me, he is the Patriots secondary's worst nightmare. :lol

Yeah, him and Witten. gonna be tough covering two guys, one of which who now has a bullseye on him via Rodney Harrison.

Who does he think he is, Mr. 4th and 26? jesus.

joshuatrees18

10-11-2007, 10:56 AM

Anyone see the thing on TO's note to the media today? :lol Oh Jesus, that guy is frigging screwed. 10 bucks says he's out with a fractured spine by halfway through the second quarter.

"Dear Reporters,

"Due to the magnitude of this week's game and high volume of questions for the Original 81 about the other 81. I will be taking all questions immediately following Sunday's game.

"Sincerely, (followed by Owens' signature)

"p.s. Getcha Popcorn Ready."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3057714

Everyone say it with me: TO--shut the fuck up :lol

Yeah...but you have it admit TO is entertaining! And the NFL is in the entertainment business! Dallas is probably my 2nd favourite team to watch right now after the Patriots...And it's becasue of Owens and Romo...thery are interesting sotrylines....

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 10:57 AM

Yeah...but you have it admit TO is entertaining! And the NFL is in the entertainment business! Dallas is probably my 2nd favourite team to watch right now after the Patriots...And it's becasue of Owens and Romo...thery are interesting sotrylines....

No, Ocho-Cinco is entertaining, T.O. is just a cockbag. It's one thing to have fun and joke around and have silly endzone dances, but it's another to intentionally piss people off, wear "I heart T.O." tee shirts, and go out of your way to be a douchehat.

Who does he think he is?

swampdonkey

10-11-2007, 10:59 AM

Yeah, him and Witten. gonna be tough covering two guys, one of which who now has a bullseye on him via Rodney Harrison.

Who does he think he is, Mr. 4th and 26? jesus.

You're referring to the 4th and 26 that Freddie Mitchell caught against the Pack right? I don't think Terrel thinks he is Freddie Mitchell.

At any rate, TO will get his if they will just throw the ball to him. Against the Bills Terrel was open constantly and Romo kept looking away. When he did let the damn ball go he under threw it or put it just out of bounds.

joshuatrees18

10-11-2007, 11:06 AM

No, Ocho-Cinco is entertaining, T.O. is just a cockbag. It's one thing to have fun and joke around and have silly endzone dances, but it's another to intentionally piss people off, wear "I heart T.O." tee shirts, and go out of your way to be a douchehat.

Who does he think he is?

He's Terrell Owens!!!

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 11:10 AM

He's Terrell Owens!!!
and a jack wagon!!! :)

SoRight24

10-11-2007, 11:18 AM

T.O., T.O. T.O. T.O.

*Sings it.

41ravens

10-11-2007, 11:31 AM

Anyone see the thing on TO's note to the media today? :lol Oh Jesus, that guy is frigging screwed. 10 bucks says he's out with a fractured spine by halfway through the second quarter.

"Dear Reporters,

"Due to the magnitude of this week's game and high volume of questions for the Original 81 about the other 81. I will be taking all questions immediately following Sunday's game.

"Sincerely, (followed by Owens' signature)

"p.s. Getcha Popcorn Ready."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3057714

Everyone say it with me: TO--shut the fuck up :lol

$20 says if moss pulled the same stunt, you'd think it was hilarious.

besides, what's so wrong about it? he knew the media was going to be hounding him to try and provoke him into saying something, so he's just staying away from them.

joshuatrees18

10-11-2007, 11:34 AM

and a jack wagon!!! :)

But he's an entertaining Jack Wagon!! He's probably a pain in ass to his own teamates, but as a fan he is fun to watch whether he suceeds or fails...

UNC41

10-11-2007, 11:53 AM

jimibadfish

10-11-2007, 12:40 PM

Anyone see the thing on TO's note to the media today? :lol Oh Jesus, that guy is frigging screwed. 10 bucks says he's out with a fractured spine by halfway through the second quarter.

"Dear Reporters,

"Due to the magnitude of this week's game and high volume of questions for the Original 81 about the other 81. I will be taking all questions immediately following Sunday's game.

"Sincerely, (followed by Owens' signature)

"p.s. Getcha Popcorn Ready."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3057714

Everyone say it with me: TO--shut the fuck up :lol

He's just drawing more attention to this game where we will all see your beloved Pats man the machine and destroy the Cowboys. It won't be competitive. This ploy does nothing but good for the game.

jimibadfish

10-11-2007, 12:41 PM

But he's an entertaining Jack Wagon!! He's probably a pain in ass to his own teamates, but as a fan he is fun to watch whether he suceeds or fails...

All the interviews I've seen with his Cowboy team mates are very positive.

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 12:43 PM

Tom Brady & Randy Moss > Tony Romo & Terell Owens

waywayNCSU

10-11-2007, 01:10 PM

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 01:10 PM

The Original 81 obv.

Ocho Uno!

12 + 81 = 6
9 + 81 = -6 x brain hemorrhage

CUTiger41

10-11-2007, 01:14 PM

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 01:19 PM

$20 says if moss pulled the same stunt, you'd think it was hilarious.

besides, what's so wrong about it? he knew the media was going to be hounding him to try and provoke him into saying something, so he's just staying away from them.

No, I wouldn't. I used to talk about how big of a doucherocket Corey Dillon was/is. I've ALWAYS hated TO/expressed my desire for him to suffer a career-ending knee injury, whether it was when he was on SF or Philly.

I used to say the same about Moss, but then he got quieter in Oakland (although he more bitched and moaned rather than talked about how good he was) and Moss is not going to run the same shit in NE. he knows it'll get him booted off the team.

TO does it because Dallas fans somehow find it funny. It's not funny, it's egotistical. One day he's going to go for a ball and some corner is going to freaking spearhead him and end his career. And no one will be there to tell him how great he used to be; and no one will have to, I'm sure he'll make sure everyone remembers.

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 01:19 PM

CUTiger41

10-11-2007, 01:22 PM

No, I wouldn't. I used to talk about how big of a doucherocket Corey Dillon was/is. I've ALWAYS hated TO/expressed my desire for him to suffer a career-ending knee injury, whether it was when he was on SF or Philly.

I used to say the same about Moss, but then he got quieter in Oakland (although he more bitched and moaned rather than talked about how good he was) and Moss is not going to run the same shit in NE. he knows it'll get him booted off the team.

TO does it because Dallas fans somehow find it funny. It's not funny, it's egotistical. One day he's going to go for a ball and some corner is going to freaking spearhead him and end his career. And no one will be there to tell him how great he used to be; and no one will have to, I'm sure he'll make sure everyone remembers.

TO has been relatively quiet in Dallas, aside from the OD episode his off the field antics have been nothing. Same goes for the TO "runing the same shit" in Dallas. It ain't gonna happen.

I love how you forgive Moss for all of his antics and bullshit cause he's now producing for your team. Good one. :thumbsup

CUTiger41

10-11-2007, 01:23 PM

you do realize that NE is better than Buffalo, right?

Just making sure.......

No worries.

UNC41

10-11-2007, 01:25 PM

I used to say the same about Moss, but then he got quieter in Oakland (although he more bitched and moaned rather than talked about how good he was) and Moss is not going to run the same shit in NE. he knows it'll get him booted off the team.

Sure Moss got quieter in Oakland, but that coincided with him giving his team a half-assed, at best, effort. Chastise TO all you want for his antics, but at least they are off the field.

41ravens

10-11-2007, 01:36 PM

I love how people are making a big deal about this game when in the grand NFL scheme it means nothing. It's a measuring stick for the Cowboys and nothing else. It's a game for them to see what they are really made of and it's just another day at the office for the Pats. I don't think the Pats are going out of their way to make this game special by any means.

As a long time Cowboys fan, I will neither be shocked nor depressed if they lose this game but I would certainly NOT hand the SB trophy to the Pats just yet. I'm just hoping for an entertaining close game and obviously a win for the 'Boys. But we'll see...and I still stand by my prediction: 27-24 Cowboys.

exactly. it is a big game in the sense that they're both 5-0, but in the end, it really doesn't matter. and i agree it has more meaning to the boys than the pats. the pats know where they stand. they've been doing it for a couple years now.

but another thing about the game, is that no matter the outcome, the perception of both teams will not change to the media/pats fans.

ne wins in a blowout - "told you...cowboys suck...pats rule."
ne wins a close one - "told you...cowboys suck...pats rule."
boys win a close one - "oh well...pats are still better...still gonna win the superbowl."
boys win in a blowout - "it was a fluke...plus there was <insert completely random excuse here>...pats are still better."

oh well, i could care less. i'm hoping for a good game and for a cowboys win. if they don't win, no big deal, as long as they make it competitive. if we have another game like monday, we have more to worry about than losing to the pats.

SoRight24

10-11-2007, 01:42 PM

So I don't get it Katie, you dog him when he says stupid things, and then you also dog him when he says nothing?

What you do you want him to do?

You say Moss has quieted since he has been in NE, but mention nothing about T.O.'s good behavior this year so far. It's the same thing.

swampdonkey

10-11-2007, 01:42 PM

Sure Moss got quieter in Oakland, but that coincided with him giving his team a half-assed, at best, effort. Chastise TO all you want for his antics, but at least they are off the field.

Exactly..

I personally find TO pretty entertaining and the thing that I like about him is that he always gives 100% on the field. If that would have been him in Oakland he would have been complaining too, but he would have left it his best effort on the field. Moss...on the other hand....is an assbag.

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 01:47 PM

TO has been relatively quiet in Dallas, aside from the OD episode his off the field antics have been nothing. Same goes for the TO "runing the same shit" in Dallas. It ain't gonna happen.

I love how you forgive Moss for all of his antics and bullshit cause he's now producing for your team. Good one. :thumbsup
I'm not forgiving Moss, I just am a believer in someone maturing and understanding that there is more to winning than one person. It seems as though Moss (so far, at least) has received the memo that one person is not a star, it's a team effort to put a W on the board.
So I don't get it Katie, you dog him when he says stupid things, and then you also dog him when he says nothing?

What you do you want him to do?

You say Moss has quieted since he has been in NE, but mention nothing about T.O.'s good behavior this year so far. It's the same thing.

TO has never done anything publicly that shows he is anything but a complete media whore/attention whore/douchebag. Maybe if I didn't hear a peep out of him for a few years, he just did his job well and that was it...and he didn't remind everyone that he was so great, I might change the tune of my song a bit.

Funny how he doesn't comment on how great he is at not killing himself, too.

TO has quieted a bit since he got to Dallas, I will say that, but "The original 81"? Who cares, Moss is still better than he is.

UNC41

10-11-2007, 02:01 PM

I'm not forgiving Moss, I just am a believer in someone maturing and understanding that there is more to winning than one person. It seems as though Moss (so far, at least) has received the memo that one person is not a star, it's a team effort to put a W on the board.

Moss has always been a team player ... when he's playing on a winning team and being thrown to consistently. It's not something that's brand new. The only difference now is he just doesn't talk as much.

Randy is the best receiver in football, and one of the all-time best, when playing with a chip on his shoulder.

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 02:01 PM

TO is all the things people are saying, but he's a great reciever.

Moss isn't even in his league as a reciever, especially in a game that matters.

Mario82288

10-11-2007, 02:04 PM

Who does he think he is?

HE IS ... WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS!

dre2142

10-11-2007, 02:25 PM

http://cowboys.beloblog.com/archives/teague.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHwfdEOVS5U

waywayNCSU

10-11-2007, 02:26 PM

Moss isn't even in his league as a reciever, especially in a game that matters.

Or when he's not getting the ball/on a losing team.

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 02:26 PM

HE IS ... WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS!

:lol

Playoffs? PLAYOFFS? Don't--don't talk to me about PLAYOFFS? PLAYOFFS! I just hope we can win another game!

We couldn't do diddly POO.

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 02:27 PM

Moss has always been a team player ... when he's playing on a winning team and being thrown to consistently. It's not something that's brand new. The only difference now is he just doesn't talk as much.

Randy is the best receiver in football, and one of the all-time best, when playing with a chip on his shoulder.

I think that might be the difference. The Patriots are also 5-0 and you don't see Moss running off at the mouth....or the note.

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 02:28 PM

http://cowboys.beloblog.com/archives/teague.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHwfdEOVS5U

:lol
oh, sportsmanship.

dre2142

10-11-2007, 02:29 PM

TO owns Moss

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 02:30 PM

Or when he's not getting the ball/on a losing team.

Can you imagine what Steve Smith would do playing with Brady? It would out of control.

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 02:35 PM

I frigging love Ytmnd
http://haharomo.ytmnd.com/
http://suckitbrady.ytmnd.com/

waywayNCSU

10-11-2007, 02:38 PM

Can you imagine what Steve Smith would do playing with Brady? It would out of control.

Even at times with Delhomme he's not human.

Smith and Chad Johnson played together in junior college... They had to have destroyed teams.

UNC41

10-11-2007, 02:41 PM

I think that might be the difference. The Patriots are also 5-0 and you don't see Moss running off at the mouth....or the note.

I don't even know how changed he is. It could very well be that the only difference is that Moss is in a winning situation now where his coach won't put up with any shit. Denny Green wasn't that kind of coach in Minnesota, and Tice is a guy who could have developed into one, but he catered to Moss because he was a guy who came out of nowhere to get his first head coaching job. Belichick simply won't put up with it.

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 02:42 PM

Football ousiders have their updated stats up.

NE is the #2 O and the # 3 D.
Dallas in the #3 O and the #6 D.

I don't see how people think this won't be a game.

The most ridiculous stat I saw is that Moss is catching 80% of the passes thrown his way. He was just abover 40% last year.

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 02:46 PM

The difference is coaching. Moss isn't a great reciever, but he's a great deep threat. The Pats don't have a "Randy Ratio", and they're not using him outside of his comfort zone. He's running a lot of go read routes, where he either runs by the defense or runs a hook because of the cushion his speed creates.

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 02:46 PM

I don't even know how changed he is. It could very well be that the only difference is that Moss is in a winning situation now where his coach won't put up with any shit. Denny Green wasn't that kind of coach in Minnesota, and Tice is a guy who could have developed into one, but he catered to Moss because he was a guy who came out of nowhere to get his first head coaching job. Belichick simply won't put up with it.

Oh yeah, I agree with this. I mean, I don't think Moss has really changed, I'm sure he's just a douchebag inside waiting to come out......it's just nice that he's learned to keep his mouth shut because of Belichick.

Parcells was like that with TO...I wonder if that's the difference? I mean, its not like TO is saying shit, he's just still coming up with creative ways to get attention before he gets his ass beat. I would seriously give my left boob to be the reporter who gets to interview TO after the Cowboys lose (if they lose).

Mario82288

10-11-2007, 03:06 PM

:lol

Playoffs? PLAYOFFS? Don't--don't talk to me about PLAYOFFS? PLAYOFFS! I just hope we can win another game!

We couldn't do diddly POO.

LMAO

:lol :lol :lol :lol

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 03:15 PM

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 03:17 PM

hes fast, huge and has great hands....i think at this point his hands are better than TO's. TO's numbers are better but ive seen TO drop a lot more balls the past 2 years.

41ravens

10-11-2007, 03:18 PM

Oh yeah, I agree with this. I mean, I don't think Moss has really changed, I'm sure he's just a douchebag inside waiting to come out......it's just nice that he's learned to keep his mouth shut because of Belichick.

Parcells was like that with TO...I wonder if that's the difference? I mean, its not like TO is saying shit, he's just still coming up with creative ways to get attention before he gets his ass beat. I would seriously give my left boob to be the reporter who gets to interview TO after the Cowboys lose (if they lose).

wow. did not expect you to ever say something like that. not starting to get a little worried, are you now?

;)

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 03:21 PM

hes fast, huge and has great hands....i think at this point his hands are better than TO's. TO's numbers are better but ive seen TO drop a lot more balls the past 2 years.

His catch rate isn't that good, except this year.

A lot of people probably don't know, but catch rate is the percentage of passes thrown to a reciever that he catches. It's not a perfect stat, but it's a damn good one.

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 03:24 PM

His catch rate isn't that good, except this year.

A lot of people probably don't know, but catch rate is the percentage of passes thrown to a reciever that he catches. It's not a perfect stat, but it's a damn good one.

no its definitely a flawed stat, i would look at balls dropped before this.

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 03:27 PM

no its definitely a flawed stat, i would look at balls dropped before this.

Catch rate measures that and more. WRs who have the most balls thrown their way have the most drops most of the time.

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 03:28 PM

Catch rate measures that and more. WRs who have the most balls thrown their way have the most drops most of the time.

yes but if the ball is dropped it means it was in your hands...which means you should have made the catch..

CUTiger41

10-11-2007, 03:31 PM

yes but if the ball is dropped it means it was in your hands...which means you should have made the catch..

That statement is based on a LOT of assumptions.

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 03:31 PM

moss averages more yards per game than TO too.. (career wise)

i think TO is a bit better but Moss is a great Receiver theres no doubting that.

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 03:32 PM

LMAO

:lol :lol :lol :lol
I <3 Coach rants/quotes. :lol
wow. did not expect you to ever say something like that. not starting to get a little worried, are you now?

;)

I ain't jinxing SHIT. I think the Patriots will destroy Dallas, but you know, just in case :lol

CUTiger41

10-11-2007, 03:38 PM

I <3 Coach rants/quotes. :lol

I ain't jinxing SHIT. I think the Patriots will destroy Dallas, but you know, just in case :lol
So how much have you wagered on the game? Considering it's a sure bet and all.

dre2142

10-11-2007, 03:40 PM

Theyre pretty even:

Moss has 710 receptions over 10 seasons (137 games)...11251 yards, 15.8 average per catch

Ownes has 822 receptions over 11 seasons (148 games).....12102 yards, 14.7 average per catch

Almost identical balls lost and balls fumbled, and TDs

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 03:42 PM

yes but if the ball is dropped it means it was in your hands...which means you should have made the catch..

If you don't get to the ball, you don't have the opportunity to make a catch. If you don't hold on to a ball in traffic, it's not a drop. People are just uncomfortable with new ways of looking at the game.

In 2004, Culpepper completed 69% of his passes while Moss caught 52% thrown his way.

In 2004, McNabb completed 64% of his passes, while TO caught 61%

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 03:43 PM

moss averages more yards per game than TO too.. (career wise)

i think TO is a bit better but Moss is a great Receiver theres no doubting that.

That's because Moss isn't an effective WR. He's an effective deep threat.

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 03:45 PM

That's because Moss isn't an effective WR. He's an effective deep threat.

:rolleyes ok

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 03:46 PM

That's because Moss isn't an effective WR. He's an effective deep threat.

after you saying last night maroney has been hurt his whole career its kind of hard to agree with you on anything.

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 03:54 PM

So how much have you wagered on the game? Considering it's a sure bet and all.

Actually none. I might get a few friendly bets going. I generally don't wager on games unless the other person is REALLY pushy and I just wanna take their money. I've more wagered some stuff on the Indy/NE game.

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 03:56 PM

after you saying last night maroney has been hurt his whole career its kind of hard to agree with you on anything.

best part:

If you combine Maroney's and Morris's yardage for the season, you get about 100 yards less than Jones/Barber.

And both Jones and Barbers are starters (I believe?) and Maroney has missed two games.

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 03:58 PM

after you saying last night maroney has been hurt his whole career its kind of hard to agree with you on anything.

Pats fans have a hard time with facts.

He didn't carry the load after showing he had the skills to do so. It's not like Corey Dillion set the world on fire last year. Why do you think this is?

He eventually had to have surgury on the injury in the offseason.

He's already missed games this year.

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 03:58 PM

best part:

If you combine Maroney's and Morris's yardage for the season, you get about 100 yards less than Jones/Barber.

And both Jones and Barbers are starters (I believe?) and Maroney has missed two games.

yeah they are averaging over 130 yds a game..

but the jones/barber situation is the same as maroney/morris they pretty much rotate in every other drive...

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 04:00 PM

Pats fans have a hard time with facts.

He didn't carry the load after showing he had the skills to do so. It's not like Corey Dillion set the world on fire last year. Why do you think this is?

He eventually had to have surgury on the injury in the offseason.

He's already missed games this year.

being hurt for four total games doesn't constitute his whole career, hes practicing this week....im going to have a hard time with facts when they are based on total bull.

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 04:03 PM

yeah they are averaging over 130 yds a game..

but the jones/barber situation is the same as maroney/morris they pretty much rotate in every other drive...

Ah, gotcha, didn't really know that...cool cool.

kinda wish it was sunday right about now.

dre2142

10-11-2007, 04:05 PM

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 04:05 PM

best part:

If you combine Maroney's and Morris's yardage for the season, you get about 100 yards less than Jones/Barber.

And both Jones and Barbers are starters (I believe?) and Maroney has missed two games.

The Pats have run the ball for 769 yards on 167 carries.

The Cowboys have run the ball for 684 yards on 146 carries.

The Pats have more yards because they run the ball more. The Cowboys have a higher YPC.

Those have kneel downs removed, so they're not going to match up with what you see on ESPN.com.

dre2142

10-11-2007, 04:07 PM

The only stats that matter are the stats from this weekends Cowboys vs Patriots game.

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 04:07 PM

Point?
That two guys at 5 games each (say, call it 10 games total) are running about the same amount of distance as 2 guys at 8 games total.

Just making the point that NE has a superior Running game, that's all.

dmbmuskie

10-11-2007, 04:07 PM

being hurt for four total games doesn't constitute his whole career, hes practicing this week....im going to have a hard time with facts when they are based on total bull.

He's been too hurt to fill his role as the feature back, which he claimed last year in Cincy. Why is that so hard for you to you grasp?

rickyh24

10-11-2007, 04:12 PM

He's been too hurt to fill his role as the feature back, which he claimed last year in Cincy. Why is that so hard for you to you grasp?

cause it doesnt really make sense IMO

UNC41

10-11-2007, 04:44 PM

That two guys at 5 games each (say, call it 10 games total) are running about the same amount of distance as 2 guys at 8 games total.

Just making the point that NE has a superior Running game, that's all.

That's a horrid argument. Morris and Maroney have more carries than Jones and Barber.

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 04:47 PM

That's a horrid argument. Morris and Maroney have more carries than Jones and Barber.

why is that a horrid argument? People claim that Dallas is superior or equal in almost every aspect...I say they aren't.

UNC41

10-11-2007, 04:51 PM

why is that a horrid argument? People claim that Dallas is superior or equal in almost every aspect...I say they aren't.

Because you made your argument on how many games the players have played, yet declined to mention that the Pats duo has more carries.

dmbgodagirl41

10-11-2007, 04:52 PM

Because you made your argument on how many games the players have played, yet declined to mention that the Pats duo has more carries.

But then shouldn't that show that they are better? Meaning one of them has missed 2 games and they STILL have more carries between the two of them...?

Am I missing something?