THE Colorado Rockies....

[larrythelegend_]

Somebody needs to start one right? I mean, the Rockies ARE in the National League Championship Series and all. Lets get this thing going, not nearly enough smack being ran during the most exciting time of the year in sports!

[Fishbulb290]

Go rocks. I'm glad they are finally good without the help of Dante Bichette.

[SoRight24]

So you have an Indians avatar but are starting a Rockies thread?

:confused

[dreamingtreeIU]

So you have an Indians avatar but are starting a Rockies thread?

:confused

and lives in washington

[larrythelegend_]

Like I said, someone had to do it. Just a baseball fan dude.

[dreamingtreeIU]

touche

[DMBtheStoned]

I'm pulling for the Rockies now that my Cubbies are done.

[SoRight24]

The Rockies have like 5 fans.

[Ev42]

i hope the rockies sweep the d-Backs.

[Fishbulb290]

The Rockies have like 5 fans.

and 4 of them jumped on board after the regular season.

[SoRight24]

and 4 of them jumped on board after the regular season.

:lol :lol

:thumbsup

[Nick@Night]

Go rocks. I'm glad they are finally good without the help of Dante Bichette.
Don't forget Vinny Castilla.

[larrythelegend_]

Actually I was born in Ohio, grew up in Colorado, and have been on board with the Rockies my whole life, as the same as everyone else in Colorado. I never thought in a million years that being a fan of the Rockies and the Indians would ever clash.

The Dbacks are going down.

[Fishbulb290]

Don't forget Vinny Castilla.

I loved that team...

Vinny, Dante, Andres, Walker. Good stuff. They used to have this giant painting on the highway towards Coors Field with all 4 of them. Pretty cool stuff.

[DMBtheStoned]

Don't forget Vinny Castilla.

Can't forget Larry Walker.

[larrythelegend_]

I loved that team...

Vinny, Dante, Andres, Walker. Good stuff. They used to have this giant painting on the highway towards Coors Field with all 4 of them. Pretty cool stuff.

The Blake Street Bombers baby, what a fun team that was. Too bad they decided to try and pitch and spend too much money on it. Good to see a revival in the best sports town in the country.

[DMBtheStoned]

Denny Neagle?

[jenben41]

I loved that team...

Vinny, Dante, Andres, Walker. Good stuff. They used to have this giant painting on the highway towards Coors Field with all 4 of them. Pretty cool stuff.

I saw the most worn out Walker jersey the other day... wanted to go shake that man's hand.

I'm slowly becoming a big fan of Manny Corpus.

[SoRight24]

Mike Hampton?

[DMBtheStoned]

Remember when Neagle got arrested for picking up a hooker?

This is her:

[larrythelegend_]

Remember when Neagle got arrested for picking up a hooker?

This is her:

She's too good for Denny Neagle...

[SoRight24]

Remember when Neagle got arrested for picking up a hooker?

This is her:

Oh my God. :lorraine :lorraine

[jenben41]

Well. 4 long days in between series was almost too much. Hope they can keep the mojo going!

Go Rox!

[larrythelegend_]

They beat the only the thing good going for the Dbacks, I never thought I would ever be able to say this, the Colorado Rockies ARE going to go to the World Series!

[Nick@Night]

Boston over Colorado in 6 games.

[demar727]

this team formed a fan base so fast

it left alot of heads spinning


never knew they had fans until this month :rolleyes

[jenben41]

Funny you say that because this thread is still on the first page. Give it time.

[proudestmnky]

The Blake Street Bombers baby, what a fun team that was. Too bad they decided to try and pitch and spend too much money on it. Good to see a revival in the best sports town in the country.

:lol

[justinandimcool]

Do I like, win anything for being the only person on here who cares about this series?

[41ravens]

will the rockies ever lose another game? ever?

[crashintome202]

nope cause its the NL and everyone knows the NL sucks.

[jaking1185]

Do I like, win anything for being the only person on here who cares about this series?

I am watching it too. The Rockies are a great story. I only hope they can continue it in the Series against either team.

[jenben41]

Do I like, win anything for being the only person on here who cares about this series?

:ugh Hey now.

[ProudestAnt]

will the rockies ever lose another game? ever? They'll get swept by whoever comes out of the AL...

[crashintome202]

They'll get swept by whoever comes out of the AL...
you and i both know its the red sox.

still laughing at yorvit torrealba getting the go ahead homer.

[ProudestAnt]

you and i both know its the red sox.

still laughing at yorvit torrealba getting the go ahead homer. I hope so. I hate the format of 2-3-2...

[crashintome202]

I hope so. I hate the format of 2-3-2...
i hate the playoff format in all. it was better when the best team from each league went to the world series.

[SoRight24]

you and i both know its the red sox.

still laughing at yorvit torrealba getting the go ahead homer.

Not if Eric Gagne has anything to say about it. :twenty4

[crashintome202]

Not if Eric Gagne has anything to say about it. :twenty4
or if terry francona realized he's not that good right now and stopped using him in big spots

[ProudestAnt]

Not if Eric Gagne has anything to say about it. :twenty4 He's fine...

[justinandimcool]

i hate the playoff format in all. it was better when the best team from each league went to the world series.

:freak

You mean you'd rather have a 162 game season with no playoffs?

Unless I misunderstood.

[ProudestAnt]

i hate the playoff format in all. it was better when the best team from each league went to the world series. It's redundant to do 2-3-2. If it's homefield ADVANTAGE, what kind of advantage is it to give a team 3 straight homegames? It should be 2-2-1-1-1...

[SoRight24]

He's fine...

He looked good on that first out.

That fastball for strike 3 was flat out nasty.

I'd rather not use him unless it is totally necessary though. :thumbsup

[justinandimcool]

They'll get swept by whoever comes out of the AL...

The Rocks have the ballpark, the weather conditions, and the defense on their side. Not like it means much, but with all the breaks a team can get at Coors I'd say they could pull off a fight, maybe a game or two.

[smeritt]

Honestly if they sweep how can you not give them respect? I say if they sweep this series they have too much momentum to get their ass kicked by anyone. That said AL pitching is much much much better. But still I like their chances. And I'm being dead ass.

[ProudestAnt]

He looked good on that first out.

That fastball for strike 3 was flat out nasty.

I'd rather not use him unless it is totally necessary though. :thumbsup Well yea, when I meant fine, I meant as a middle reliever when the game is out of hand...

[crashintome202]

It's redundant to do 2-3-2. If it's homefield ADVANTAGE, what kind of advantage is it to give a team 3 straight homegames? It should be 2-2-1-1-1...
lol that'd be a series. why not 2-4-1
2 on the road, 4 straight at home and then 1 on the road

[ProudestAnt]

The Rocks have the ballpark, the weather conditions, and the defense on their side. Not like it means much, but with all the breaks a team can get at Coors I'd say they could pull off a fight, maybe a game or two. You can't take a sample from the NL when they've only had to hit against 1 good pitcher in the past 6 games...

[crashintome202]

:freak

You mean you'd rather have a 162 game season with no playoffs?

Unless I misunderstood.
it use to be the best record from the NL and the best from the AL would be in the WS. that way, the best of each league faces each other for the ring.

[ProudestAnt]

lol that'd be a series. why not 2-4-1
2 on the road, 4 straight at home and then 1 on the road Part of the advantage is playing at home for game 7. Can't take that away. I honestly think 2-2-1-1-1 would work so much better. So it takes a couple days longer, so what, baseball lasts longer? I've dealt with worse...

[SoRight24]

Well yea, when I meant fine, I meant as a middle reliever when the game is out of hand...

Of course.

[crashintome202]

You can't take a sample from the NL when they've only had to hit against 1 good pitcher in the past 6 games...
hamels? webb? thats 2

[ProudestAnt]

it use to be the best record from the NL and the best from the AL would be in the WS. that way, the best of each league faces each other for the ring. Interleague has ruined that format...

[ProudestAnt]

hamels? webb? thats 2 Hammels on how long rest? 3-4 days?

[crashintome202]

Part of the advantage is playing at home for game 7. Can't take that away. I honestly think 2-2-1-1-1 would work so much better. So it takes a couple days longer, so what, baseball lasts longer? I've dealt with worse...
then you might have the world series leak into november. traditionalists will murder you

[ProudestAnt]

then you might have the world series leak into november. traditionalists will murder you Then Jeter can have his nickname make sense? i got nothin...

[justinandimcool]

You can't take a sample from the NL when they've only had to hit against 1 good pitcher in the past 6 games...

Hamels and Webb. I count 2 :lol

Not to mention Penny, Peavy, Lowe, and Maddux during the last stretch of the regular season- I wouldn't exactly put them in the "not good" category.

They may not put together 13 runs against the Sox (or the Indians), but from what I've seen from this team all throughout September- there's been no indication from their offense and surprsingly their pitching that they don't have a chance against the AL.

They have good, above average guys out there. I'd still put my money on the AL, but I'll also put money it won't be as one-sided as 2004 and 2005.

[DMBtheStoned]

Since the Cubs got knocked out I've been pulling for the Rockies. No real reason I just like an underdog.

[ProudestAnt]

Hamels and Webb. I count 2 :lol

Not to mention Penny, Peavy, Lowe, and Maddux during the last stretch of the regular season- I wouldn't exactly put them in the "not good" category.

They may not put together 13 runs against the Sox (or the Indians), but from what I've seen from this team all throughout September- there's been no indication from their offense and surprsingly their pitching that they don't have a chance against the AL.

They have good, above average guys out there. I'd still put my money on the AL, but I'll also put money it won't be as one-sided as 2004 and 2005. Again, wasn't Hammels on short rest to start that series?

[justinandimcool]

it use to be the best record from the NL and the best from the AL would be in the WS. that way, the best of each league faces each other for the ring.

So I did understand you correctly.

That I just don't agree with. I think it's fine the way it is now. I think the Division Series was a stellar improvement.

Sorry, I just don't think a 162 game season should be decided in 1 round. If a team gets 100 wins and automatically advances to a World Series- think of how many of those wins came against bottomfeeder teams.

I say play it out. Let the great teams show up when the moment calls for it.

[justinandimcool]

Again, wasn't Hammels on short rest to start that series?

4 days I believe. No excuse IMO.

[ProudestAnt]

So I did understand you correctly.

That I just don't agree with. I think it's fine the way it is now. I think the Division Series was a stellar improvement.

Sorry, I just don't think a 162 game season should be decided in 1 round. If a team gets 100 wins and automatically advances to a World Series- think of how many of those wins came against bottomfeeder teams.

I say play it out. Let the great teams show up when the moment calls for it. You understand that the only reason playoffs were created in general was to pump more money out of the fans right? It's never been about "fairness of the game" or anything like that, just owners trying to line their pockets...

[crashintome202]

So I did understand you correctly.

That I just don't agree with. I think it's fine the way it is now. I think the Division Series was a stellar improvement.

Sorry, I just don't think a 162 game season should be decided in 1 round. If a team gets 100 wins and automatically advances to a World Series- think of how many of those wins came against bottomfeeder teams.

I say play it out. Let the great teams show up when the moment calls for it.
a 5 game set is SO fluky though. the difference between a 100 win team and a 500 team in a 5 game set is about 1 game. if 1 series is too small thats 7 (maybe 9?!! please!) then how is 5?

[crashintome202]

You understand that the only reason playoffs were created in general was to pump more money out of the fans right? It's never been about "fairness of the game" or anything like that, just owners trying to line their pockets...
as bud would say "keeps team close with the wildcard"
aka more money for baseball!

[justinandimcool]

You understand that the only reason playoffs were created in general was to pump more money out of the fans right? It's never been about "fairness of the game" or anything like that, just owners trying to line their pockets...


It may not have initially been about the fairness of the game, but in my hindsight view it's a better indication of who is deserving of the world championship. If a team can't win a 7 game series against a League opponent, it should not be given a shot in a 7 game World Series.

[Fishbulb290]

Corpas is sick...

Shitty weather for baseball though. Hasn't stopped raining for 2 days...

[justinandimcool]

a 5 game set is SO fluky though. the difference between a 100 win team and a 500 team in a 5 game set is about 1 game. if 1 series is too small thats 7 (maybe 9?!! please!) then how is 5?

A five game series is not fluky IMO. A one-game is, a three-gamer is, but not a 5. Your 3 best pitchers get to start, they better show up.

[Fishbulb290]

3-0 good game...

[ProudestAnt]

It may not have initially been about the fairness of the game, but in my hindsight view it's a better indication of who is deserving of the world championship. If a team can't win a 7 game series against a League opponent, it should not be given a shot in a 7 game World Series. Makes no sense, especially with the new wildcard format. You win 110 games in a season, then get beat by a team with 86 wins (from your own division, and thus an identical season schedule), does that really prove your team is undeserving, or just that the second team got hot for a 5-7 game series?

[justinandimcool]

Makes no sense, especially with the new wildcard format. You win 110 games in a season, then get beat by a team with 86 wins (from your own division, and thus an identical season schedule), does that really prove your team is undeserving, or just that the second team got hot for a 5-7 game series?

Aesthetically, maybe the 110 game winner feels it should be given a second chance once they lose a series. Just because they won alot of games.

But it's in the nature of sports- some games are bigger than others- if you show up in big games and big series- you deserve to move on.

The 116 win Mariners had no one to blame but themselves. They didn't hit, their bullpen couldn't hold up in late innings, and the Yankees stepped it up when needed.

Same for last year's Cardinals. You show up. The Tigers were the better team on paper, but didn't prove it. That brings up the cliche line "that's why they play the games". If not we'd be crowning the Yankees' ass every year. What if they won 120 games this year and put on the same performance against Cleveland?

[ProudestAnt]

Aesthetically, maybe the 110 game winner feels it should be given a second chance once they lose a series. Just because they won alot of games.

But it's in the nature of sports- some games are bigger than others- if you show up in big games and big series- you deserve to move on.

The 116 win Mariners had no one to blame but themselves. They didn't hit, their bullpen couldn't hold up in late innings, and the Yankees stepped it up when needed.

Same for last year's Cardinals. You show up. The Tigers were the better team on paper, but didn't prove it. That brings up the cliche line "that's why they play the games". If not we'd be crowning the Yankees' ass every year. What if they won 120 games this year and put on the same performance against Cleveland? What if? Playoff scenarios are idealy to produce the best of both leagues playing each other for the title. However, one can argue, as I absolutely do, that a playoff series does not come down to the best team, but the team who plays better in a small sample set...

[justinandimcool]

I should proofread. That last post was barely coherent. Hopefully you get my point, sorry.

[fatb81]

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[justinandimcool]

What if? Playoff scenarios are idealy to produce the best of both leagues playing each other for the title. However, one can argue, as I absolutely do, that a playoff series does not come down to the best team, but the team who plays better in a small sample set...

I think Playoff Series are a stage that should be a goal for every regular season team. On this "stage" they are all given a chance to put forward their best players and best efforts to play for a chance to advance. You play to get on the stage, and no matter how talented your team is- you have to get them motivated to perform their best on this stage. This is when the nature of sports comes to play- if you're a great team and you play poorly or don't make plays, you have no one to blame but yourselves- off the stage you go.

So who do you think deserves to play for a World Series? The better, more talented team on paper or the team who plays better?

If the first, shouldn't we cancel the NLCS and bring the Phillies back on up? Or even the Mets?

[ProudestAnt]

I think Playoff Series are a stage that should be a goal for every regular season team. On this "stage" they are all given a chance to put forward their best players and best efforts to play for a chance to advance. You play to get on the stage, and no matter how talented your team is- you have to get them motivated to perform their best on this stage. This is when the nature of sports comes to play- if you're a great team and you play poorly or don't make plays, you have no one to blame but yourselves- off the stage you go.

So who do you think deserves to play for a World Series? The better, more talented team on paper or the team who plays better?

If the first, shouldn't we cancel the NLCS and bring the Phillies back on up? Or even the Mets? I agree that the best team from each league. That would be the Red Sox and the Diamondbacks...

[justinandimcool]

Looking back on crash202's argument, a 5 month regular season shouldn't by any means decide the 2 teams that play in the World Series. That's a long freaking season- the best, most talented team and league representative can have a player or two go down a few months early on- that 105 win team becomes an 85 win team, barely in the playoffs. This includes all the other obstacles encountered over 5 months.

Now 100% healthy but seeded as a wildcard, and still on paper "the best team in the league", they get their chance to play for a shot at winning it all.



Even when you remove all the hypothetical situations, a team does not earn their right to a world championship by defeating the Rays or the Royals or the Rangers, Giants, Pirates, and Marlins 19 times. Your win total proves you're good enough to play on the big stage. On this stage is when you prove you're worthy of the World Series.

[justinandimcool]

I agree that the best team from each league. That would be the Red Sox and the Diamondbacks...

And if the Rockies sweep, you'd still argue the Diamondbacks are still "deserving" to play for it all?

They won enough games to get here. But they're not taking that one last step to prove they deserve to get even further. Hell, the Rockies' season series is 10-8 against them.

[justinandimcool]

Since we're on the subject- I'm gonna go ahead and defend football and NCAA Basketball. 1 game rounds don't eliminate the "fluke" sentiment, but it's still an elevated stage where the best teams have to step up and actually PROVE they're the best. When the best teams like the Gators and the Colts win it all- it sure works out nice right? They went out and proved they were the best not only on the small regular season stage but also on the grander stage.

Had they been upset like so many other years before, they'd have no one to blame but themselves. Your team doesn't step up when they should, tough. That's why they play the games. Had it been via a last second FG or a buzzer beater, I guess we just have to blame the nature of sports for that.

[DmBand801]

Denny Neagle?

denny neagle lives right next to the golf course i work at - him and his dad come in all the time....hes a real nice guy--can't say i like him after he shut the mets down in the 2000 world series ;)

[GinaNMU]

Congratulations Rockies fans!! I'm rooting for ya (until you face Boston) ;)

[crashintome202]

And if the Rockies sweep, you'd still argue the Diamondbacks are still "deserving" to play for it all?

They won enough games to get here. But they're not taking that one last step to prove they deserve to get even further. Hell, the Rockies' season series is 10-8 against them.
d'backs are better than the rockies. the rockies are just red hot right now and no one can stop them.

[ProudestAnt]

And if the Rockies sweep, you'd still argue the Diamondbacks are still "deserving" to play for it all?

They won enough games to get here. But they're not taking that one last step to prove they deserve to get even further. Hell, the Rockies' season series is 10-8 against them. Yes, I would argue that they deserved to play for it all. 162 games is a HUGE sample size of what a team can do. I don't believe a team should be able to play sub-standard baseball for 2 months, marginal baseball for two months, and great baseball for 2 months and play for a title. Play good baseball all season and you don't have to worry about "showing up when it counts." And don't rag on teams like the Marlins, D-Rays and the like, they're professional athletes just like everyone else, you can't penalize a team for who they play without allowing them to have SOME kind of control over their schedule (which baseball teams do not)...

[DMBfan41]

I don't know if theres any actual rockies fans here or not, lol.

But, here's hoping you guys win tonight and then beat up the Sox or Indians.

Yankee land is pulling for you!

[crashintonickdm]

this run is seriously getting unnoticed. for 2 reasons.

1. NFL
2. ESPN always talking about the yanks more than actual playoffs even tho the yanks arent even in the playoffs anymore.

either way. this rockie team is something special

[malarks26]

I don't know if theres any actual rockies fans here or not, lol.

But, here's hoping you guys win tonight and then beat up the Sox or Indians.

Yankee land is pulling for you!

:thumbsup :thumbsup

Go Rox!

[justinandimcool]

I started doubting the Rockies.

Until the 4th inning.

[DMBfan41]

wow. Come on is there any question about if this team deserves a trip to the world series?

I think that inning answered it. 6 runs with 2 outs. 6-1, go Rocks!

[justinandimcool]

wow. Come on is there any question about if this team deserves a trip to the world series?

I think that inning answered it. 6 runs with 2 outs. 6-1, go Rocks!

Nope.

[Fishbulb290]

World Series?!?! WHAT???

[DMBfan41]

lol, come on!!!!!!!! Aren't there any Rockie fans here???

YAY ROCKIES!
What a run this has been 21 out of 22 games. 7-0 in the postseason. Really amazing. I'm really pulling for them

[justinandimcool]

Not a Rockie fan, but definitely happy for them.

Here's to a long, competitive World Series (in come all the Red Sox fans to come in and tell me it's gonna be a sweep).

[DMBZeppelin]

I'm a Cubbies fan, but I've been pulling for you guys. I'm glad you took care of the D-backs, and I like the guys on your team. I'm glad to see Helton finally getting to go to the post season.

[DMBZeppelin]

I posted this in the playoff thread as well, but all these stats are BEFORE the Rockies won tonight:

How do we explain this, huh? Exactly one month ago, these very same Rockies were four games over .500 for the season. They had a worse record than the Dodgers. They had a worse record than the Mariners. They had a worse record than the Braves.

And now they find themselves in sentences that include phrases like: "joined only the Big Red Machine … "

Joined the Big Red Machine in what, you ask? In becoming only the second National League team to win its first six games of any postseason. Of course.

Now, want to know who else these Rockies have joined on their Magical History Tour, thanks to their 4-1 thumping of Arizona on Sunday in Game 3 of the National League Championship Series, a game that made them an incomprehensible 20-1 in their past 21 games?

How about the 2001 A's and 1977 Royals. Those are the only two other teams in the past 54 years to roar off on a 20-1 streak -- at any point of any season.

OK, like that group? Let's keep going. How about the 1947 and '53 Yankees. Those are the only other juggernauts since World War II to win 20 of 21 -- again, in any stretch of any season.

Hang on. It gets better. How about Mel Ott, Carl Hubbell and the 1936 Giants. That's the last National League team to understand what it feels like to ride one of these 20-1 tsunamis.

Now hold on one second. Think about this, friends. The 1936 Giants? That was 71 years ago. Heck, that was 57 years before the invention of the entity we know as the Colorado Rockies.

[jmkratt]

Yeah baby! Rockies to the World Series! I never thought I'd say it.

Denver was out of control last night...my head hurts and I was late to work, but it was worth it.

All you people down on the Rockies just keep it up as it doesn't seem to be affecting my boys. I am more concerned with an entire week off...

[ProudestAnt]

They're still going to get steamrolled by whoever comes out of the AL, but good for them...

[GavMan33]

They're still going to get steamrolled by whoever comes out of the AL, but good for them...

I can't believe you can say that! This team is 21-1 since like September 15 or something. That's an entire month, including playoff baseball, where the supposedly best competition is. Sure, the Phillies and Diamondbacks are not great, but they still have won 21 of 22. They're a freakin freight train at full speed. I'm pulling for them....

[DMBtheStoned]

crazy!

[TwoStep2888]

I saw them play the Pirates back in August. They lost, like, 15-4 or something ridiculous like that. It would have been nice to see them once they stopped being awful, but at least I went to a game during their World Series season.

[credin]

They're still going to get steamrolled by whoever comes out of the AL, but good for them...

:confused Maybe yes...maybe no. Last I checked though the Red Sox lost 2 of 3 to the rockies earlier this year.

[neumdogg]

I can't believe you can say that! This team is 21-1 since like September 15 or something. That's an entire month, including playoff baseball, where the supposedly best competition is. Sure, the Phillies and Diamondbacks are not great, but they still have won 21 of 22. They're a freakin freight train at full speed. I'm pulling for them....
True, but this is the first "break" they are really going to have between games. They won't play till next week. The momentum might be lost.

[ProudestAnt]

:confused Maybe yes...maybe no. Last I checked though the Red Sox lost 2 of 3 to the rockies earlier this year. Oh wow, great argument, I forgot about that. How about you tell that to the Yankees who were 6-0 against the Indians during the season, oh wait...

[Fishbulb290]

True, but this is the first "break" they are really going to have between games. They won't play till next week. The momentum might be lost.

I think it's just going to make them more excited to play when it finally comes. That's what seemed to happen before the d-back's series. Didn't slow them down at all.

[ProudestAnt]

I can't believe you can say that! This team is 21-1 since like September 15 or something. That's an entire month, including playoff baseball, where the supposedly best competition is. Sure, the Phillies and Diamondbacks are not great, but they still have won 21 of 22. They're a freakin freight train at full speed. I'm pulling for them.... Let's see who they've faced in terms of pitching........jake peavy on short rest Cole Hammels pitching in the playoffs for the first time and Brandon Webb who the Rockies didn't score a run on. They can't compete with great pitchers and their pitching doesn't hold up very well against a good offense, which they haven't faced in almost a month. Great pitching beats great hitting every day of the week and when you face a team like Boston or Cleveland who have great pitching AND great hitting, you can't compete with a good offense and shitty pitching staff...

[justinandimcool]

Let's see who they've faced in terms of pitching........jake peavy on short rest Cole Hammels pitching in the playoffs for the first time and Brandon Webb who the Rockies didn't score a run on. They can't compete with great pitchers and their pitching doesn't hold up very well against a good offense, which they haven't faced in almost a month. Great pitching beats great hitting every day of the week and when you face a team like Boston or Cleveland who have great pitching AND great hitting, you can't compete with a good offense and shitty pitching staff...

Heading into last night their team ERA was 1.77. Not that they've faced any AL teams, but nothing about 1.77 against anyone makes me think "shitty pitching staff". Maybe not high profile, but evidently not shitty.

[DMBfan41]

Let's hear what the Rockie fans have to say about all this.....

Anyone?

Anyone?

Bueller?

[justinandimcool]

Let's hear what the Rockie fans have to say about all this.....

Anyone?

Anyone?

Bueller?

*crickets*

[mojo1210]

They're still going to get steamrolled by whoever comes out of the AL, but good for them...

says a red sox fan. same red sox that lost two to the rockies at fenway.

[jenben41]

says a red sox fan. same red sox that lost two to the rockies at fenway.

And they were 32-33 when that happened...

[jenben41]

Let's see who they've faced in terms of pitching........jake peavy on short rest Cole Hammels pitching in the playoffs for the first time and Brandon Webb who the Rockies didn't score a run on. They can't compete with great pitchers and their pitching doesn't hold up very well against a good offense, which they haven't faced in almost a month. Great pitching beats great hitting every day of the week and when you face a team like Boston or Cleveland who have great pitching AND great hitting, you can't compete with a good offense and shitty pitching staff...

Yeah, but it really isn't about their offense (although I'm a little more than relieved that Matt Holliday is back to scoring runs). Their defense has been the remarkable part about all of this. The Dbacks scored only 4 runs in 3 games until game 4. I was always under the impression that defense wins chamionships. Seems to be working for them so far. Even though Tulowitzki is nothing short of incredible, everyone is making clutch plays.

[DMBZeppelin]

Let's see who they've faced in terms of pitching........jake peavy on short rest Cole Hammels pitching in the playoffs for the first time and Brandon Webb who the Rockies didn't score a run on. They can't compete with great pitchers and their pitching doesn't hold up very well against a good offense, which they haven't faced in almost a month. Great pitching beats great hitting every day of the week and when you face a team like Boston or Cleveland who have great pitching AND great hitting, you can't compete with a good offense and shitty pitching staff...
Just like the Tigers should have taken down the 83 win Cards. The point is, the Rockies have some HORRIBLE stats. But they are winning inspite of all those things. 21 of 22 is one of the best runs of all time. They are doing something not thought possible, and until this streaks end I wouldn't bet against it.

[credin]

Oh wow, great argument, I forgot about that. How about you tell that to the Yankees who were 6-0 against the Indians during the season, oh wait...

yeah because your argument is outstanding also. fact of the matter is you don't know and I don't know. Stats are stats and that is all they are. On any given day anything can happen.

Should the indians or the sox beat the rockies, sure I think anyone would say that, but will it happen........

[DMBZeppelin]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2007/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=3065637&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1

Don't ask how a team that was a mere four games over .500 on Sept. 15 could make it here from where this team came from.

From nine games under .500 (18-27) in May.

From six games out in the wild-card race in September.

From 4½ games back in that wild-card race with only nine games to play.

From two games behind with two games to play, and having to watch that Padres team they were trying to catch get within one strike of clinching.

From two runs behind in the 13th inning of the 163rd game of the year, a game they never should have had a chance to play in the first place.

Has any team ever overcome all of that to play in a World Series? Not a chance.
Clearly, they had to believe, or they couldn't have done this, right?

Couldn't have become the fifth team in the last 70 years to go 21-1 in any stretch of any season.

Couldn't have become the first team to do that in the middle of one of these mad charges to, and through, October.

Couldn't have become the second team in history (along with the 1976 Big Red Machine) to sweep its first two postseason series in any given October.

Couldn't have become the fifth team of all time to make it from last place one year to the World Series the next.

Couldn't have become the sixth team in history to fall nine games under .500 and still climb out of that canyon to make it to the World Series.

And, finally, couldn't have become the first team ever to find itself two games out of a playoff spot with two games to play and somehow survive to scramble into the World Series.

[41ravens]

love 'em or hate 'em, this is the sports story of the year so far.

[Fishbulb290]

I love these stats. So cool.

[mojo1210]

yeah because your argument is outstanding also. fact of the matter is you don't know and I don't know. Stats are stats and that is all they are. On any given day anything can happen.

Should the indians or the sox beat the rockies, sure I think anyone would say that, but will it happen........

the only thing that matters at this point are wins. bean town boy can throw out all the stats he wants, as you say, the games are yet to be played. guess he should take his boner for the sox to a sox thread where they can chew on this stat. 86 years between championships. guess will see you in 2090 then since stats are the end all be all of the game :thumbsup

[jenben41]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2007/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=3065637&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1

Don't ask how a team that was a mere four games over .500 on Sept. 15 could make it here from where this team came from.

From nine games under .500 (18-27) in May.

From six games out in the wild-card race in September.

From 4½ games back in that wild-card race with only nine games to play.

From two games behind with two games to play, and having to watch that Padres team they were trying to catch get within one strike of clinching.

From two runs behind in the 13th inning of the 163rd game of the year, a game they never should have had a chance to play in the first place.

Has any team ever overcome all of that to play in a World Series? Not a chance.
Clearly, they had to believe, or they couldn't have done this, right?

Couldn't have become the fifth team in the last 70 years to go 21-1 in any stretch of any season.

Couldn't have become the first team to do that in the middle of one of these mad charges to, and through, October.

Couldn't have become the second team in history (along with the 1976 Big Red Machine) to sweep its first two postseason series in any given October.

Couldn't have become the fifth team of all time to make it from last place one year to the World Series the next.

Couldn't have become the sixth team in history to fall nine games under .500 and still climb out of that canyon to make it to the World Series.

And, finally, couldn't have become the first team ever to find itself two games out of a playoff spot with two games to play and somehow survive to scramble into the World Series.

Nice.

[ProudestAnt]

the only thing that matters at this point are wins. bean town boy can throw out all the stats he wants, as you say, the games are yet to be played. guess he should take his boner for the sox to a sox thread where they can chew on this stat. 86 years between championships. guess will see you in 2090 then since stats are the end all be all of the game :thumbsup Bean town boy? I'm from Buffalo...

[credin]

the only thing that matters at this point are wins. bean town boy can throw out all the stats he wants, as you say, the games are yet to be played. guess he should take his boner for the sox to a sox thread where they can chew on this stat. 86 years between championships. guess will see you in 2090 then since stats are the end all be all of the game :thumbsup


:thumbsup :thumbsup Also lets not forget no matter how you look at it the rockies have one of the best ERA's since the all star break. That can't be overlooked.

[GavMan33]

the only thing that matters at this point are wins. bean town boy can throw out all the stats he wants, as you say, the games are yet to be played. guess he should take his boner for the sox to a sox thread where they can chew on this stat. 86 years between championships. guess will see you in 2090 then since stats are the end all be all of the game :thumbsup

Unnecessary bro. As a Yankee fan, and I hate standing up for that group, this group of guys have been consistently good now since 2003 with the same core, and that includes a championship. Only a 5-game sweep in Boston and horrific injuries all at once at the end of the season kept them out of the playoffs again. Not cool my man....

[ProudestAnt]

Unnecessary bro. As a Yankee fan, and I hate standing up for that group, this group of guys have been consistently good now since 2003 with the same core, and that includes a championship. Only a 5-game sweep in Boston and horrific injuries all at once at the end of the season kept them out of the playoffs again. Not cool my man.... He's obviously sports ignorant, just let it go...

[Fishbulb290]

Way to drop the ball bigtime with the ticket sales. Tickets went on sale an hour and a half ago and no one can get on the site. Great...

[ISU1648]

Way to drop the ball bigtime with the ticket sales. Tickets went on sale an hour and a half ago and no one can get on the site. Great...

yeah, is there any updates on that? their ticket system provider has been down all day with an outage.

how do popele buy tickets now?

[eisnach41]

according the rockies they sold a couple hundred tix this morning before the server crashed.

they had 8.5 million hits in the first 90 min. now i know many people were refreshing multiple times and a ton of brokers and other out of state people were trying to get tix, but there is only 4 million people in co

[ProudestAnt]

I got mine. Games 3 and 4. BOO-YA!

[eisnach41]

^ when and how???

[ProudestAnt]

^ when and how??? My buddy got online right at noon and secured 3 tickets to each game before the site crashed.

I assume at least. I've been working all day, but when my kids left at 3, I checked my voicemail that just said "DUDE, I GOT TICKETS! WE'RE GOING TO THE WS!!" So I take it he got a confirmation e-mail. He'd better at least, or I'm going to kill him...

[Fishbulb290]

Weird, so of the 500 tickets supposedly they sold you got some...

Nice.

They are supposed to be announcing their solution 'sometime' after 4:00 mst today.

[jenben41]

Weird, so of the 500 tickets supposedly they sold you got some...

Nice.

They are supposed to be announcing their solution 'sometime' after 4:00 mst today.

I was wondering about that, too.

You may want to check with your buddy- I know a few people that "got through" only to be stuck at the check out page.

This may go down as the most unproductive work day in Colorado's history.

What a stupid situation. I guess the streets around Coors were shut down because so many people had gathered. I would be so pissed if they opened up a box office down there.

Still hoping...

[ISU1648]

did they not see that amount of hits coming? they announce that tickets are available ONLY online. given that, maybe MLB could up the ticketing bandwidth a little. terrible terrible management of the situation. selig must be in charge.

[Fishbulb290]

They had said:

The site has worked great for the past three years and we see no need for extra staffing.

They must be taking crazy pills to think they have ever had even close to as many people looking for tickets on their site. I really don't get their thought process on this one.

[ProudestAnt]

Weird, so of the 500 tickets supposedly they sold you got some...

Nice.

They are supposed to be announcing their solution 'sometime' after 4:00 mst today. I saw the confirmation e-mail. I dunno how he did it...

[mojo1210]

I saw the confirmation e-mail. I dunno how he did it...
dear bean town fan,

so will you be flapping your jaw around denver that they don't deserve to be in the series? if so, stay where you're from.

signed, with love.
the city of denver.

[ProudestAnt]

dear bean town fan,

so will you be flapping your jaw around denver that they don't deserve to be in the series? if so, stay where you're from.

signed, with love.
the city of denver. Dear city of Denver,
I'll travel where I please and say what I please. Let the real fans defend the pride of their team.

signed, lacking love.
bean town fan...

[mojo1210]

Dear city of Denver,
I'll travel where I please and say what I please. Let the real fans defend the pride of their team.

signed, lacking love.
bean town fan...

:thumbsdow

i'm sure you will. i could only imagine the amount of hot air coming out of bean town fans, especially you, if the sox were on a run similar to the rockies.

[ProudestAnt]

:thumbsdow

i'm sure you will. i could only imagine the amount of hot air coming out of bean town fans, especially you, if the sox were on a run similar to the rockies. When you post something knowledgeable in this forum, I'll become concerned with anything you have to say...

[mojo1210]

When you post something knowledgeable in this forum, I'll become concerned with anything you have to say...
and vis-à-vis

[ProudestAnt]

and vis-à-vis
:monkey

[justinandimcool]

Totally jealous of you man :thumbsup

[Fishbulb290]

Still no word on how this is going to work...

[Fishbulb290]

http://www.9news.com/news/top-article.aspx?storyid=79510

I smell bullshit but whatever. Hopefully tomorrow goes smoothly.

[Fishbulb290]

Did anyone get tickets today?

I was on the countdown page for 3 hours and then they sold out...

[jenben41]

No luck here, either. Oh well, more money for beer in lodo...

[Fishbulb290]

Go Rockies.

[jenben41]

Hmmm...

[jenben41]

Anyone want to move right to game 3?


Anyone?

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Get your heads outta your asses rockies.

[41ravens]

it's just one game. did anyone really expect them to win against beckett anyways?

[chr35919]

it's just one game. did anyone really expect them to win against beckett anyways?
but 13 runs?

[DMBfan41]

hey fans, i know you all must be devastated.

But you guys had a great month, a month no one has ever seen before.

So congrats for that.

[BlueWaterBF36]

Rockies made a giant step forward this year. Of course you guys are disappointed, but I think the future has never been brighter for a Rockies fan.

[aeroshady]

:hump GO SOX! Rockies fans will be :lorraine for a while haha



sorry I had to do it haha :p

[jenben41]

I don't think so. I don't know anyone who is crusehd about the Rox losing... we're still not quite sure that was them in the World Series.

No, seriously, it was a lot of fun getting this far :)

[GinaNMU]

Props to the Colorado Rockies. You guys had an amazing season. That last run was something to be proud of and will be down in record books! :)


And coming from a Cubs fan....there's always next year.

[jenben41]

http://www.denverpost.com/popular/ci_7325183

Good ole' Woody Paige, railing on the fiasco that was the World Series in Denver.

[aeroshady]

http://www.denverpost.com/popular/ci_7325183

Good ole' Woody Paige, railing on the fiasco that was the World Series in Denver.

:thumbsup he is 100% right on everything he said. If this were around the horn I would give him 15 points for that. I feel bad for the Rockies fans out there.