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BlueWaterBF36
10-29-2007, 12:52 AM
Curious how much agreement there is among Sox fans on this issue.

TempHelpNeeded
10-29-2007, 12:53 AM
no. mike is better for us.

groton
10-29-2007, 01:02 AM
Nope don't need another Superstar on this team

TempHelpNeeded
10-29-2007, 01:05 AM
we want a guy who can perform in the playoffs. we got the regular season taken care of.

dmbmuskie
10-29-2007, 01:09 AM
I cannot see the Sox signing him.

ProudestAnt
10-29-2007, 01:13 AM
no. mike is better for us. He'd switch back to SS, where he belongs...

ProudestAnt
10-29-2007, 01:14 AM
And I'd take him in a heartbeat...

groton
10-29-2007, 01:19 AM
ryan now he would not switch back to SS and we got a SS.
who showed he can do something in the payoff's something Arod has not shown

smeritt
10-29-2007, 01:20 AM
Dustin Pedroia and John Lester WS appearances- 1
Alex Rodriguez WS appearances - 0

ProudestAnt
10-29-2007, 01:23 AM
ryan now he would not switch back to SS and we got a SS.
who showed he can do something in the payoff's something Arod has not shown He would switch back to SS, and our SS hit .237 in the regular season.

And with a team with Papi and Manny where A-Rod doesn't have to be the catalyst, the weight would be off him during the postseason, which may result in an offensive showing on his part...

jsilvia2
10-29-2007, 01:39 AM
Hell No, way overpaid. Nobody warrants spending $30-50 million a year. A-rod is a good player but for that much money they could get a few players to solidify an already outstanding roster. A few players may be lost to free agency and that money can be spent (on more than one player) to replace them.

DMBZeppelin
10-29-2007, 01:42 AM
Dustin Pedroia and John Lester WS appearances- 1
Alex Rodriguez WS appearances - 0
Wow, because that is ALL HIM! A-Rod alone has stopped himself from getting there? I mean get rid of Beckett and Papelbon and see how far the Red Sox go. It's a team game, and A-Rod needs a team to get there.

dmbmuskie
10-29-2007, 01:51 AM
This is an outsiders take, but the Red Sox are considered a lesser evil that the Yankees despite having the 2nd highest payroll. Signing A-rod would make them the second Evil Empire, and I don't think they want that. They relish their role as the underdog, eventhough it's total bullshit.

BreakFree27
10-29-2007, 01:56 AM
He would switch back to SS, and our SS hit .237 in the regular season.

And with a team with Papi and Manny where A-Rod doesn't have to be the catalyst, the weight would be off him during the postseason, which may result in an offensive showing on his part...

and how exactly do you plan on paying A-hole if you still have Manny's contract???

My answer is FUCK NO!!! He does not fit the mentality of the Red Sox or New England for that matter, and he can't hit in the playoffs.....and oh yeah we can win a tittle without him!

Tiduwho
10-29-2007, 01:59 AM
I'm sure Lou would love to have him here in Chicago, but with the sale of the Cubs and all, money is being put on hold. And I mean man, we spent $300 mil last offseason (with each signing pulling their weight and then some...until the playoffs), that'd be a lot of money to throw around.

HolyCow
10-29-2007, 02:01 AM
No player is worth that much.

ProudestAnt
10-29-2007, 02:13 AM
My answer is FUCK NO!!! He does not fit the mentality of the Red Sox or New England for that matter, and he can't hit in the playoffs.....and oh yeah we can win a tittle without him! OMGWTFBBQ!!!!!!!!!!!111111!!

aeroshady
10-29-2007, 03:01 AM
Fuck A-Rod....everyone I talked to does not want him. If he comes I would root for him, but I don't think we need his bull shit!

ProudestAnt
10-29-2007, 03:02 AM
Fuck A-Rod....everyone I talked to does not want him. If he comes I would root for him, but I don't think we need his bull shit! What bullshit is that? Possibly the greatest player ever to step on the field bullshit? I'd deal with it...

DMBZeppelin
10-29-2007, 03:14 AM
Fuck A-Rod....everyone I talked to does not want him. If he comes I would root for him, but I don't think we need his bull shit!
Your Yankees friends? Because there's plenty of teams that want A-Rod. Personally I'm a Cubs fan and EVERY Cubs fan I know wants him.

chr35919
10-29-2007, 03:14 AM
What bullshit is that? Possibly the greatest player ever to step on the field bullshit? I'd deal with it...yeah right.

aeroshady
10-29-2007, 03:27 AM
What bullshit is that? Possibly the greatest player ever to step on the field bullshit? I'd deal with it...

it is about playoffs for me man. That is all that matter IMO. I don't care if he hits 800 HR's in his life...if he keeps fucking sucking in the Post Season is not a great player to me. If you can't perform on the big stage's than you are a waste of talent and to me A-Rod is a waste of Talent. I hope he goes to the Nation League.

aeroshady
10-29-2007, 03:27 AM
Your Yankees friends? Because there's plenty of teams that want A-Rod. Personally I'm a Cubs fan and EVERY Cubs fan I know wants him.

I am not a Cubs fan I have been saying for the past few months that is where I would like to see him end up.

BlueWaterBF36
10-29-2007, 05:04 AM
I can say, as a Mets fan, it is tempting but it seems like a bit of overkill to me. I think the *only* way it makes sense to do it is, if you are able to trade Jose Reyes (w/ a prospects package) for a PREMIERE pitcher who can be controlled for a few years, and I am talking top top top, which would open up short stop AND help the Mets net an ace that they desperately need, then MAYBE. That to me is a legit possibility for the Mets - as much as I'd hate to see Reyes go, he's a) not A-Rod and b) nonetheless still a phenomenal player despite his lousy second half - it would hurt giving him up - but in conjunction with A-Rod would fill a need without creating another one. I still *probably* wouldn't do it - Reyes is not the player he was in the second half and he doesn't have anything close to the kind of baggage A-Rod has - and he's uber cheap! But I'd have to at least consider it.

mr. testaverde
10-29-2007, 08:21 AM
yeah right.

give it a few years, he will hold that title.

SoRight24
10-29-2007, 08:24 AM
NOBODY is worth 300 million.

Fuck that.

BreakFree27
10-29-2007, 10:03 AM
give it a few years, he will hold that title.

with what team??

cbotnyse
10-29-2007, 10:32 AM
I guess Boston fans have too much of a WS hangover to want Arod right now. Its hard to say if anybody is worth 300 mil, but there is no denying his numbers. And from what I've seen he doesnt seem like a terrible teamate either. I guess everyone wants to hate him because he comes across as greedy, but who here wouldn't take more money at their jobs?

jmudmbphan
10-29-2007, 10:37 AM
I guess Boston fans have too much of a WS hangover to want Arod right now. Its hard to say if anybody is worth 300 mil, but there is no denying his numbers. And from what I've seen he doesnt seem like a terrible teamate either. I guess everyone wants to hate him because he comes across as greedy, but who here wouldn't take more money at their jobs?

I dont think its a matter of him just wanting more money...the yankees were prepared to offer him another 4-5 years worth 150 million.

He would have been immortalized if he stayed in NY and broke all those records. Now he's one of those guys who just bounces around from team to team. What hat will be have when hes inducted into the Hall? He has no home. He has no fans. He is a hired mercenary.

cbotnyse
10-29-2007, 10:53 AM
I dont think its a matter of him just wanting more money...the yankees were prepared to offer him another 4-5 years worth 150 million.

He would have been immortalized if he stayed in NY and broke all those records. Now he's one of those guys who just bounces around from team to team. What hat will be have when hes inducted into the Hall? He has no home. He has no fans. He is a hired mercenary.As far as I'm concerned he can do whatever he wants. If he wants to move around, why not? Any team, and fans of that team, will welcome him. I dont hold that against him.

cruscott35
10-29-2007, 11:12 AM
OK, first off... A player is worth what the market says...If a 34 year old Ichiro is worth 20 million a year, A Rod is worth 30 million a year.

Secondly, for whoever said A-Rod couldn't play short... Yes he could.

Jeter was shit in this years playoffs, and 01, is there a magic light switch he forgot to turn on this year? Playoff performance is overrated.

Everyone should want him on their team, you're not writing the check.

ProudestAnt
10-29-2007, 11:39 AM
In what world is A-Rod not the best player ever to step on a field when it's all said and done (barring injury)?

Any Red Sox fan who would look at a line-up of:

Ellsbury
Pedroia
Ortiz
Ramirez
A-Rod
Drew
Varitek
Youkilis
Random 3B/DH

And say, "duh, no thanks, A-Rod is teh sukxs." Is a fucking madman...

SoRight24
10-29-2007, 11:41 AM
OK, first off... A player is worth what the market says...If a 34 year old Ichiro is worth 20 million a year, A Rod is worth 30 million a year.

Secondly, for whoever said A-Rod couldn't play short... Yes he could.

Jeter was shit in this years playoffs, and 01, is there a magic light switch he forgot to turn on this year? Playoff performance is overrated.

Everyone should want him on their team, you're not writing the check.

So, who cares if I'm not writing the check.

Our team is just fine the way it is with the young talent mixed in with the veterans, why welcome on all the media circus and bullshit that A-Rod brings.

Yeah yeah, he's the best player in the game, but we won the division and the World Series without him. I, myself, want no part of him.

Why tie up 300 million dollars in ONE player? What if he starts going downhill, you will take that pay hit for years and years.

cbotnyse
10-29-2007, 11:52 AM
Why tie up 300 million dollars in ONE playersimple answer is, because you can. of course you are going to think you dont need him, because you just won it all, but having him in the lineup next to Manny and Ortiz would be filthy. No team would want to face that, ever.

cruscott35
10-29-2007, 11:53 AM
Lowell is going to get a ton of money anyway, if you think about resigning him, you might as well spend the extra jack and get ARod.

BreakFree27
10-29-2007, 12:17 PM
In what world is A-Rod not the best player ever to step on a field when it's all said and done (barring injury)?

Any Red Sox fan who would look at a line-up of:

Ellsbury
Pedroia
Ortiz
Ramirez
A-Rod
Drew
Varitek
Youkilis
Random 3B/DH

And say, "duh, no thanks, A-Rod is teh sukxs." Is a fucking madman...

dude we don't have the money for both Arod and Manny.

BlueWaterBF36
10-29-2007, 12:18 PM
In what world is A-Rod not the best player ever to step on a field when it's all said and done (barring injury)?

Any Red Sox fan who would look at a line-up of:

Ellsbury
Pedroia
Ortiz
Ramirez
A-Rod
Drew
Varitek
Youkilis
Random 3B/DH

And say, "duh, no thanks, A-Rod is teh sukxs." Is a fucking madman...
In a world where he didn't pitch but Ruth did?

dmbgodagirl41
10-29-2007, 12:19 PM
No. Crybaby. Asshole. No one wants him. When he does well, the teams he plays for suck. He's terrible in the post-season. He's a douche and an attention whore.

I hate A-Rod and I would never want to have to cheer for him. Fuck him.

BreakFree27
10-29-2007, 12:19 PM
In a world where he didn't pitch but Ruth did?

:thumbsup Ruth is the best ever, hands down.

thom hudson
10-29-2007, 12:21 PM
No. Crybaby. Asshole. No one wants him. When he does well, the teams he plays for suck. He's terrible in the post-season. He's a douche and an attention whore.

I hate A-Rod and I would never want to have to cheer for him. Fuck him.
i wouldn't say no one wants him. :shrug

bullox005
10-29-2007, 12:21 PM
i'd take him in a heartbeat.

kydmb99
10-29-2007, 12:23 PM
No. Crybaby. Asshole. No one wants him. When he does well, the teams he plays for suck. He's terrible in the post-season. He's a douche and an attention whore.

I hate A-Rod and I would never want to have to cheer for him. Fuck him.

Sounds like Randy Moss... :)

cbotnyse
10-29-2007, 12:26 PM
No. Crybaby. Asshole. No one wants him. When he does well, the teams he plays for suck. He's terrible in the post-season. He's a douche and an attention whore.

I hate A-Rod and I would never want to have to cheer for him. Fuck him.I think just about everybody wants him, thats why he will command 30 mil a year. He is no more of a douche and attention whore than Manny is, but I'm sure you are fine with Manny being Manny. :rolleyes (I'm rolling my eyes and Manny, not you. :))

cbotnyse
10-29-2007, 12:26 PM
Sounds like Randy Moss... :)ha, touche

cbotnyse
10-29-2007, 12:39 PM
Also here are his postseason stats...

1997 ALDS with Sea: .313/.313/.563 RBIs: 1
2000 ALDS with Sea: .308/.308/.308 RBIs: 2
2000 ALCS with Sea: .409/.480/.773 RBIs: 5
2004 ALDS with NYY: .421/.476/.737 RBIs: 3
2004 ALCS with NYY: .258/.378/.516 RBIs: 5
2005 ALDS with NYY: .133/.381/.200 RBIs: 0
2006 ALDS with NYY: .071/.071/.071 RBIs: 0
2007 ALDS with NYY: .267/.353/.467 RBIs: 1

He's had 2 bad playoff series his entire career and in the 2005 series he actually got on base at a great clip. 2006 was atrocious... but yet people get fooled by the NY media and ESPN in thinking he's an awful postseason player? When outside of 2006 did that happen?

Lcsulla
10-29-2007, 12:46 PM
What bullshit is that? Possibly the greatest player ever to step on the field bullshit? I'd deal with it...

Thank you, this is exactly what very Sox fan friend I have says.

I don't understand why someone wouldn't want him. Put down the kool aid and take an objective look at just how good this guy is. He can carry a team. If it is about money, again, who cares, not yours. I do not get why any sane baseball fan wouldn't want him.

Though I disagree how he would fit in a boston lineup. I would go (3-4-5):

A-Rod, Ortiz, Ramirez to avoid a tough righty reliever going after Manny and A-Rod back to back.

cbotnyse
10-29-2007, 12:50 PM
dude we don't have the money for both Arod and Manny.I'm pretty sure you do.

bullox005
10-29-2007, 12:52 PM
Sounds like Randy Moss... :)

that was a homerun of a comment.

get it? i just made a baseball reference...and we are talking about baseball.

rickyh24
10-29-2007, 12:52 PM
no. mike is better for us.




what about both???

rickyh24
10-29-2007, 12:53 PM
i would take him, but it would be nice if he took a pay cut so he could play short along side Lowell and Pedroia.

dmbindedham
10-29-2007, 01:39 PM
With my personal thoughts of generally disliking the guy in whole, I'd take his ability to play the game, hands down. Lugo and Crisp are gonna be gone anyhow. Thats some money thats freed up. and whoever said that the sox dont have the money for both Manny and A-Rod....:rolleyes . You have no idea how much they make off "Red Sox Nation".

rickyh24
10-29-2007, 01:42 PM
Arod would bring in a lot of money too...he will be wearing whatever teams jersey signs him when he breaks bonds record..

dmbgodagirl41
10-29-2007, 02:01 PM
i wouldn't say no one wants him. :shrug
well yeah, id agree. No one that I know would! :)
Sounds like Randy Moss... :)
sounds like your mother after a night with me. oh, wait.
I think just about everybody wants him, thats why he will command 30 mil a year. He is no more of a douche and attention whore than Manny is, but I'm sure you are fine with Manny being Manny. :rolleyes (I'm rolling my eyes and Manny, not you. :))

Yeah, but Manny has two rings. A-Rod...hmmm...not so much.

rickyh24
10-29-2007, 02:03 PM
.314 -- 54 -- 156 -- 24



ill take that baggage

Gary!
10-29-2007, 02:04 PM
A little something I whipped up for you, my Red Sox fan friends.

At this point in the year, it's all we Yankee fans could ask for.

Talk about a curse.

chr35919
10-29-2007, 02:05 PM
no....
A-Rod putting himself above the game
By Buster Olney
ESPN The Magazine

Alex Rodriguez couldn't be at the World Series to receive an award from Hank Aaron -- a family commitment was the stated reason -- but he managed to upstage Game 4, with the help of agent Scott Boras, who announced in the early innings that his client is opting out of his contract.

The way this played out could not have been more apropos, because A-Rod needs to be bigger than the game; he needs to be more important than the Red Sox or the Rockies or any other team, or any other player. He is one of the greatest players in history at compiling statistics, the greatest ever at compiling wealth, and his next employer will have to buy into that. The World Series can't matter as much as A-Rod.

Maybe that will work for the Angels, or the Giants, or the Dodgers, or the Red Sox. It is not going to be the case for the Yankees, who were prepared to pay Rodriguez the highest salary in history and couldn't even get him to the negotiating table, after his four tumultuous seasons with the team.

There were some within the Yankees' organization who thought that Boras was bluffing, that there was no way he'd walk away from the Yankee dollars, but there were others who have been convinced for the better part of a year that Rodriguez would sprint away from the team at year's end.

Rodriguez talked intermittently about loving New York and loving his place with the Yankees, but some of his peers within the team thought this was the real bluff. In the end, this meant so little to him that his time with the Yankees didn't end with the requested face-to-face meeting, but with Boras sending a text message with a document attachment to GM Brian Cashman.

It's his prerogative to move on, of course. He has the right to make as much money as he can. But buyers beware: If you buy into A-Rod, well, he has to effectively own your team. He has to dominate your clubhouse. He has to be the story. His salary demands virtually require all of that, because no matter where he goes, A-Rod will likely account for 20-35 percent of his next team's payroll. He must be bigger than the manager, bigger than his teammates.

His pursuit of Barry Bonds' record will be the focal point of your organization, the way that Bonds' chase of Aaron possessed the Giants the last five years.

The Yankees have insisted that they won't chase Rodriguez, and assuming they stick to their word, maybe it's for the best. A-Rod never seemed particularly comfortable playing under the pressure of the Steinbrenner Doctrine, which renders all regular-season statistics meaningless without the validation of a championship.

And some of Rodriguez's teammates were constantly perplexed by him, wondering why he had a knack for melodrama; they were awed by his talent and by his seeming insecurity, which they thought was at the root of his postseason struggles. He has played four seasons in New York and will almost certainly leave after two MVP awards, 173 homers and 513 RBIs, and yet somehow he never seemed to fit in entirely.

Somebody will buy into A-Rod, of course. He's an extraordinary player. The cost will be hundreds of millions, and the heart and soul, of his next franchise.

dmbgodagirl41
10-29-2007, 02:05 PM
A little something I whipped up for you, my Red Sox fan friends.

At this point in the year, it's all we Yankee fans could ask for.

Talk about a curse.

AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
*spontaneously combusts*

Gary!
10-29-2007, 02:13 PM
I'm actually kind of glad that I can now go back to hating him rather than trying to like him just because he played for the Yanks.

dmbgodagirl41
10-29-2007, 02:15 PM
I'm actually kind of glad that I can now go back to hating him rather than trying to like him just because he played for the Yanks.

I think if he went to the BoSox (I dont think he will.) I would still hate him.

Gary!
10-29-2007, 02:17 PM
I think if he went to the BoSox (I dont think he will.) I would still hate him.

Yeah that's kind of the way I felt for the last four years.

I do like that I got to spend the last 20 minutes wasting time in Photoshop putting that ugly ass Boston uniform on him though. So I guess that's a plus.

dmbgodagirl41
10-29-2007, 02:19 PM
Yeah that's kind of the way I felt for the last four years.

I do like that I got to spend the last 20 minutes wasting time in Photoshop putting that ugly ass Boston uniform on him though. So I guess that's a plus.
Yeah, no fun.

you did that yourself? WOW that was a REALLY Good job!!! now make one of me sucking face with tom brady. ;)

Gary!
10-29-2007, 02:23 PM
Yeah, no fun.

you did that yourself? WOW that was a REALLY Good job!!! now make one of me sucking face with tom brady. ;)

It was either that or do real work. I think you know which takes priority.


And hell with that. I'll make one of me licking Gisele.

DMBZeppelin
10-29-2007, 02:34 PM
Yeah that's kind of the way I felt for the last four years.

I do like that I got to spend the last 20 minutes wasting time in Photoshop putting that ugly ass Boston uniform on him though. So I guess that's a plus.
How can you hate the guy who's been the best player on your team the last 4 years? I don't understand that logic at all.

Gary!
10-29-2007, 02:41 PM
How can you hate the guy who's been the best player on your team the last 4 years? I don't understand that logic at all.

I never said he wasn't a great player. But as a person I can't stand the guy.

I don't understand why you so vehemently defend the guy. So I guess we're even.

DMBZeppelin
10-29-2007, 02:44 PM
I never said he wasn't a great player. But as a person I can't stand the guy.

I don't understand why you so vehemently defend the guy. So I guess we're even.
What about him as a person? That's all I'm trying to understand. Unless he comes to the Cubs, I don't care what happens to A-Rod. But there's been plenty of @$$holes who have played for Yankees or other sports teams and are loved by all. For some reason, A-Rod is hated by most of the fanbase. From what I've seen of interviews and what not, he's a classy guy. But I'm not in New York so I don't know everything that goes on. So why is he hated? How does he act?

Gary!
10-29-2007, 02:55 PM
What about him as a person? That's all I'm trying to understand. Unless he comes to the Cubs, I don't care what happens to A-Rod. But there's been plenty of @$$holes who have played for Yankees or other sports teams and are loved by all. For some reason, A-Rod is hated by most of the fanbase. From what I've seen of interviews and what not, he's a classy guy. But I'm not in New York so I don't know everything that goes on. So why is he hated? How does he act?

The fact that he thinks he's bigger than baseball. The fact that he (or his agent, I don't give a shit which because he obviously had a say in it) disrespects not only the Yankees but the Sox and Rockies, and baseball by making his "I need more money" announcement in the middle of game 4 of the World Series. The fact that he actually references his own stats over and over in interviews which leads me to believe he cares more about his damn self than the team. The fact that he has, and I'm sure will continue to, jump teams just to make more money than any single person (except maybe Mike Tyson and/or Michael Jackson) could spend in a lifetime. Want me to go on?

UNC41
10-29-2007, 02:56 PM
The fact that he thinks he's bigger than baseball. The fact that he (or his agent, I don't give a shit which because he obviously had a say in it) disrespects not only the Yankees but the Sox and Rockies, and baseball by making his "I need more money" announcement in the middle of game 4 of the World Series. The fact that he actually references his own stats over and over in interviews which leads me to believe he cares more about his damn self than the team. The fact that he has, and I'm sure will continue to, jump teams just to make more money than any single person (except maybe Mike Tyson and/or Michael Jackson) could spend in a lifetime. Want me to go on?

Stop ... Hammer Time!

dmbgodagirl41
10-29-2007, 02:57 PM
Plus the fact that he's cheated on his wife. Good guy.

I mean, I love the Patriots (as everyone knows) but I'm not a huge Bill Belichick fan. Yeah, I love that he's brought 3 rings back to NE, but as a person, he's not very nice.

chr35919
10-29-2007, 03:00 PM
Plus the fact that he's cheated on his wife. Good guy.

I mean, I love the Patriots (as everyone knows) but I'm not a huge Bill Belichick fan. Yeah, I love that he's brought 3 rings back to NE, but as a person, he's not very nice.belichick did too:lorraine

Gary!
10-29-2007, 03:06 PM
Stop ... Hammer Time!

HAHAHA and Hammer.

chr35919
10-29-2007, 04:16 PM
i hope we get holliday after next season :evil

rickyh24
10-29-2007, 04:39 PM
i used to love Arod when he played for Seattle...Mostly because i am a big Griffey fan. I hated him as a Yankee, but if it happens i would love him as a Red Sox.

rickyh24
10-29-2007, 04:39 PM
Plus the fact that he's cheated on his wife. Good guy.

I mean, I love the Patriots (as everyone knows) but I'm not a huge Bill Belichick fan. Yeah, I love that he's brought 3 rings back to NE, but as a person, he's not very nice.

its a good thing hes paid to coach..

ProudestAnt
10-29-2007, 04:43 PM
"It's clear he didn't want to be a Yankee," Hank Steinbrenner told the Daily News. "He doesn't understand the privilege of being a Yankee on a team where the owners are willing to pay $200 million to put a winning product on the field.

"I don't want anybody on my team that doesn't want to be a Yankee."

New Steinbrenner is more of a douche than his father. "It's a privilege to be a Yankee." :lol

ProudestAnt
10-29-2007, 04:45 PM
dude we don't have the money for both Arod and Manny. :lol Dude, you obviously have no idea how much money Red Sox ownership has...

crashintome202
10-29-2007, 04:48 PM
and how exactly do you plan on paying A-hole if you still have Manny's contract???

My answer is FUCK NO!!! He does not fit the mentality of the Red Sox or New England for that matter, and he can't hit in the playoffs.....and oh yeah we can win a tittle without him!
lmao. how many true great players came into new york or boston and totally failed? this "maybe he cant handle new york" stuff is bullshit.

Gary!
10-29-2007, 04:48 PM
"It's clear he didn't want to be a Yankee," Hank Steinbrenner told the Daily News. "He doesn't understand the privilege of being a Yankee on a team where the owners are willing to pay $200 million to put a winning product on the field.

"I don't want anybody on my team that doesn't want to be a Yankee."

New Steinbrenner is more of a douche than his father. "It's a privilege to be a Yankee." :lol

I think any owner/upper management who has pride in thier company/organization/etc. would feel the same way. If I were a CEO of a company and was willing to pay someone that much money and they left I'd feel the same way. Matter of fact that same situation (on a MUCH smaller scale) happens at my company.

And I'd say playing for a team that has more World Championships than any other is a privilige. In fairness I'd also say playing in Boston is a privilege or playing for other teams rich in history is a privilege.

crashintome202
10-29-2007, 04:50 PM
The fact that he thinks he's bigger than baseball. The fact that he (or his agent, I don't give a shit which because he obviously had a say in it) disrespects not only the Yankees but the Sox and Rockies, and baseball by making his "I need more money" announcement in the middle of game 4 of the World Series. The fact that he actually references his own stats over and over in interviews which leads me to believe he cares more about his damn self than the team. The fact that he has, and I'm sure will continue to, jump teams just to make more money than any single person (except maybe Mike Tyson and/or Michael Jackson) could spend in a lifetime. Want me to go on?
kim Jones: "arod you havent been hitting well lately"
ARod: "im hitting .318 over the last 19 games"

puts a fact over an opionon making him more accurate.

Gary!
10-29-2007, 04:55 PM
kim Jones: "arod you havent been hitting well lately"
ARod: "im hitting .318 over the last 19 games"

puts a fact over an opionon making him more accurate.

Wait are you agreeing or disagreeing that he has an obsession with his personal stats?

crashintome202
10-29-2007, 04:56 PM
Wait are you agreeing or disagreeing that he has an obsession with his personal stats?
he uses them to back up his own statements, i dont think he's obsessed with them.

Gary!
10-29-2007, 04:59 PM
he uses them to back up his own statements, i dont think he's obsessed with them.

Was that a real quote you gave or did you make it up?

crashintome202
10-29-2007, 05:02 PM
Was that a real quote you gave or did you make it up?
lol i made it up though i wouldnt be surprised seeing how clueless kim jones is.

cruscott35
10-29-2007, 05:02 PM
Looks like the Tigers aren't making a run, we gave up a ton to get Renteria today... Fuck, there goes my hot stove right down the fucking tubes.

dowling25
10-29-2007, 05:34 PM
nope not for 300 million dollars. hell no. i know he would do amazing and all but don't want him. lowell baby!

crashintome202
10-29-2007, 05:38 PM
nope not for 300 million dollars. hell no. i know he would do amazing and all but don't want him. lowell baby!
again arod would play shortstop.

rickyh24
10-29-2007, 05:39 PM
Arod/Lowell > Lowell/Lugo






IMO :lol

dmbdreamingtree
10-29-2007, 05:40 PM
yeah right.


seriously though... he is going to go down in history as one of the greatest if he continues to develop defensively and beast pitchers. no sense in fighting it.

chr35919
10-29-2007, 05:41 PM
seriously though... he is going to go down in history as one of the greatest if he continues to develop defensively and beast pitchers. no sense in fighting it.that's fine. but to say he's the best ever is a joke.

crashintome202
10-29-2007, 05:44 PM
that's fine. but to say he's the best ever is a joke.
will you still say that when he's a top the home run leader board?

ProudestAnt
10-29-2007, 05:50 PM
will you still say that when he's a top the home run leader board? And SLG%, Runs Scored, top 3 in Hits, and RBIs.

No way man, he never pitched...:rolleyes

bullox005
10-29-2007, 06:10 PM
that's fine. but to say he's the best ever is a joke.

if he avoids injury or some serious mental collapse, i think he'll probably be the best player to ever walk on the field.

i don't even really like the guy, but he can straight play.

chr35919
10-29-2007, 06:12 PM
if he avoids injury or some serious mental collapse, i think he'll probably be the best player to ever walk on the field.

i don't even really like the guy, but he can straight play.again, this is a joke to me.

chr35919
10-29-2007, 06:13 PM
will you still say that when he's a top the home run leader board?yup.

baseball is way more than numbers.

ProudestAnt
10-29-2007, 07:12 PM
yup.

baseball is way more than numbers. Like not having to play against some of the best players of your generation!! :thumbsup

crashintome202
10-29-2007, 07:27 PM
yup.

baseball is way more than numbers.
when determining the best of all time, what do you use outside of numbers?

ProudestAnt
10-29-2007, 07:31 PM
when determining the best of all time, what do you use outside of numbers? Dude, Babe Ruth pitched. He was teh shiznitz!!1!

crashintome202
10-29-2007, 07:34 PM
Dude, Babe Ruth pitched. He was teh shiznitz!!1!
and he also cursed the sox for 86 years. yep, gotta be babe

ProudestAnt
10-29-2007, 07:36 PM
and he also cursed the sox for 86 years. yep, gotta be babe But he never played against some of the best players of his generation, so I think you have to deduct points for that...

crashintome202
10-29-2007, 07:38 PM
But he never played against some of the best players of his generation, so I think you have to deduct points for that...
well he played with lou gehrig who died of his own disease so theres bonus points

ProudestAnt
10-29-2007, 07:45 PM
well he played with lou gehrig who died of his own disease so theres bonus points :lol

jmudmbphan
10-29-2007, 07:52 PM
i hope arod breaks his neck

crashintome202
10-29-2007, 07:53 PM
i hope arod breaks his neck
oh come on, its not that bad. people leave all the time for money. most teams go through this, its pretty much the first time for the yankees.

cruscott35
10-29-2007, 08:00 PM
I can't believe anyone wouldn't want Arod on their team.

aeroshady
10-29-2007, 08:08 PM
I can't believe anyone wouldn't want Arod on their team.

I can't believe people don't see why people don't like him.

SoRight24
10-29-2007, 08:13 PM
I can't believe people don't see why people don't like him.

:thumbsup :thumbsup

I want no part of that asshat.

I can't believe people who would sell their soles to get the best player out there, nobody is fucking worth that kind of money, and the fact that he is going to get is a disgrace to this great game.

dmbgodagirl41
10-29-2007, 08:23 PM
well he played with lou gehrig who died of his own disease so theres bonus points

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
holy shit, this actually made me crack up out loud. It's like that Onion article in the book "our Dumb Century" that reads "Lou Gehrig dies of Lou Gehrig Disease".

Fuck, see you all in hell.

dmbgodagirl41
10-29-2007, 08:24 PM
:thumbsup :thumbsup

I want no part of that asshat.

I can't believe people who would sell their soles to get the best player out there, nobody is fucking worth that kind of money, and the fact that he is going to get is a disgrace to this great game.

I'll sell my sole. I have Nikes.

SoRight24
10-29-2007, 08:31 PM
I'll sell my sole. I have Nikes.

Ugh, SOUL. :lorraine

aeroshady
10-29-2007, 08:34 PM
I'll sell my sole. I have Nikes.

:lol I didn't even catch that at first

cruscott35
10-29-2007, 09:08 PM
:thumbsup :thumbsup

I want no part of that asshat.

I can't believe people who would sell their soles to get the best player out there, nobody is fucking worth that kind of money, and the fact that he is going to get is a disgrace to this great game.


You're worth what the market will pay. Ichiro gets 20 million a year. A-Rod is worth more than Ichiro... I see no downside in A-Rod... Postseason performance is overrated.

SoRight24
10-29-2007, 09:11 PM
Postseason performance or not, I don't want him.

He brings too much baggage and is an overall asshole.

dmbgodagirl41
10-29-2007, 09:48 PM
Ugh, SOUL. :lorraine
:D I know, I'm just a shithead. Didn't you know?
:lol I didn't even catch that at first

Well SOMEONE is no longer a member of the grammar nazi police!
Hand in your badge, soldier!

aeroshady
10-29-2007, 10:06 PM
You're worth what the market will pay. Ichiro gets 20 million a year. A-Rod is worth more than Ichiro... I see no downside in A-Rod... Postseason performance is overrated.

That sounds like the words of a loser to me. I am sorry but saying that is like throwing in the towel. Post season is ALL that matters. If you can't produce championships than you are nothing more than a high paid loser who only hits HR's in the regular season when your team is up by 10 already.

aeroshady
10-29-2007, 10:06 PM
:D I know, I'm just a shithead. Didn't you know?


Well SOMEONE is no longer a member of the grammar nazi police!
Hand in your badge, soldier!

<<Bowing my head in shame>> haha

cruscott35
10-29-2007, 10:23 PM
That sounds like the words of a loser to me. I am sorry but saying that is like throwing in the towel. Post season is ALL that matters. If you can't produce championships than you are nothing more than a high paid loser who only hits HR's in the regular season when your team is up by 10 already.


What were Jeter's post season numbers this year??? Did he forget to turn the magic post season switch on?

SoRight24
10-29-2007, 10:25 PM
What were Jeter's post season numbers this year??? Did he forget to turn the magic post season switch on?

Horrible example.

Jeter has actually proved his worth in the postseason.

He's allowed to have an off year.

What has A-Rod EVER done in the postseason? Nothing.

dmbgodagirl41
10-29-2007, 10:27 PM
Let's all just agree that the Yankees pretty much suck the most ass of any major team, and anyone ever associated with them does, too.

cruscott35
10-29-2007, 10:39 PM
Horrible example.

Jeter has actually proved his worth in the postseason.

He's allowed to have an off year.

What has A-Rod EVER done in the postseason? Nothing.


http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/rodrial01.shtml

Check it out for yourself.

cruscott35
10-29-2007, 10:42 PM
Before the 04 ALCS he was a .333 hitter in the postseason.

SoRight24
10-29-2007, 10:46 PM
Before the 04 ALCS he was a .333 hitter in the postseason.

How many titles does he have?

How many does Jeter have?

cruscott35
10-29-2007, 10:47 PM
How many titles does he have?

How many does Jeter have?


Since when can one player win a baseball game or series by himself. A-Rod isn't the yanks problem, pitching is, and has been since he's been there.

chr35919
10-29-2007, 10:48 PM
Before the 04 ALCS he was a .333 hitter in the postseason.
but he was only in a few series...i'd say the last 3 years are way more signifcant

Year Round Tm Opp WLser G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG SB CS SH SF HBP
+------+-----+---+---+-----+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+-----+-----+-----+---+--+---+---+---+
1995 ALDS SEA NYY W 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0
ALCS SEA CLE L 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0
1997 ALDS SEA BAL L 4 16 1 5 1 0 1 1 0 5 .313 .313 .563 0 0 0 0 0
2000 ALDS SEA CHW W 3 13 0 4 0 0 0 2 0 2 .308 .308 .308 0 1 1 0 0
ALCS SEA NYY L 6 22 4 9 2 0 2 5 3 8 .409 .480 .773 1 0 0 0 0
2004 ALDS NYY MIN W 4 19 3 8 3 0 1 3 2 1 .421 .476 .737 2 1 0 0 0
ALCS NYY BOS L 7 31 8 8 2 0 2 5 4 6 .258 .378 .516 0 0 0 0 2
2005 ALDS NYY LAA L 5 15 2 2 1 0 0 0 6 5 .133 .381 .200 1 1
2006 ALDS NYY DET L 4 14 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 4 .071 .071 .071 0 0
2007 ALDS NYY CLE L 4 15 2 4 0 0 1 1 2 6 .267 .353 .467 0 0 0 0 0
+------+-----+---+---+-----+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+-----+-----+-----+---+--+---+---+---+
7 Lg Div Series 3-4 25 93 9 24 5 0 3 7 10 23 .258 .330 .409 3 3 1 0 0
3 Lg Champ Series 0-3 14 54 12 17 4 0 4 10 7 15 .315 .413 .611 1 0 0 0 2
10 Postseason Series 3-7 39 147 21 41 9 0 7 17 17 38 .279 .361 .483 4 3 1 0 2
+--------------------+-----+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+-----+-----+-----+---+--+---+---+---+

SoRight24
10-29-2007, 10:49 PM
Since when can one player win a baseball game or series by himself. A-Rod isn't the yanks problem, pitching is, and has been since he's been there.

Most people claim A-Rod is the second coming, it just further proves my point that NO one single player is worth that much money, he can't single handedly bring you a championship.

cruscott35
10-29-2007, 10:56 PM
Most people claim A-Rod is the second coming, it just further proves my point that NO one single player is worth that much money, he can't single handedly bring you a championship.


He's worth what the market will bear. Kenny Rogers gets 8 Million, Ichiro 20 Million, Pudge 13 Million, etc, etc...

And A-Rods ABs are higher in the previous series which gives a better indication of his performance.

aeroshady
10-29-2007, 11:59 PM
He's worth what the market will bear. Kenny Rogers gets 8 Million, Ichiro 20 Million, Pudge 13 Million, etc, etc...

And A-Rods ABs are higher in the previous series which gives a better indication of his performance.

:BANG Dude the answer to this thread is NO Boston fans for the most part don't want him. The price is to high for a unproven post season player. He is not worth giving up other talent. The Red Sox have won two championships without him so I don't see why they would want to bring in A-Rod when they have proven they don't need him, and that they can beat any team that does have him.

cruscott35
10-30-2007, 12:27 AM
:BANG Dude the answer to this thread is NO Boston fans for the most part don't want him. The price is to high for a unproven post season player. He is not worth giving up other talent. The Red Sox have won two championships without him so I don't see why they would want to bring in A-Rod when they have proven they don't need him, and that they can beat any team that does have him.


What talent do you have to give up to get him???

Get off this post season stuff, look at the numbers.

ProudestAnt
10-30-2007, 12:31 AM
:BANG Dude the answer to this thread is NO Boston fans for the most part don't want him. The price is to high for a unproven post season player. He is not worth giving up other talent. The Red Sox have won two championships without him so I don't see why they would want to bring in A-Rod when they have proven they don't need him, and that they can beat any team that does have him. We can't beat teams with him, we haven't won a season series with the yankees since A-Rod signed with them...

chr35919
10-30-2007, 12:32 AM
We can't beat teams with him, we haven't won a season series with the yankees since A-Rod signed with them...no? 2004??

SoRight24
10-30-2007, 12:32 AM
We can't beat teams with him, we haven't won a season series with the yankees since A-Rod signed with them...

Still doesn't matter.

We won the World Series without him.

Why do we need him?

I'd rather save that $$ and use it to go after Santana next year.

chr35919
10-30-2007, 12:33 AM
Still doesn't matter.

We won the World Series without him.

Why do we need him?

I'd rather save that $$ and use it to go after Santana next year.or holliday the year after next:thumbsup

aeroshady
10-30-2007, 12:34 AM
We can't beat teams with him, we haven't won a season series with the yankees since A-Rod signed with them...

I ment Post Season...the Regular season means nothing to me as long as we make playoffs.

Also the Sox were losing season series to the Yankees non-stop way before A-Rod got there.

ProudestAnt
10-30-2007, 12:36 AM
I ment Post Season...the Regular season means nothing to me as long as we make playoffs.

Also the Sox were losing season series to the Yankees non-stop way before A-Rod got there. So how's it feel to be so delusional about your team that you automatically put them in the playoffs 5 months before Spring Training starts?

SoRight24
10-30-2007, 12:37 AM
So how's it feel to be so delusional about your team that you automatically put them in the playoffs 5 months before Spring Training starts?

I can't believe you want that asshat to come to Boston. :thumbsdow

aeroshady
10-30-2007, 12:39 AM
So how's it feel to be so delusional about your team that you automatically put them in the playoffs 5 months before Spring Training starts?

I didn't put them in the playoffs I said as long as they make playoffs I would rather have a player that is awesome in both the post season and regular season then a player who is "apparently god's gift to Baseball" according to some in the regular season and not good or proven in the post season.

ProudestAnt
10-30-2007, 12:39 AM
Still doesn't matter.

We won the World Series without him.

Why do we need him?

I'd rather save that $$ and use it to go after Santana next year. Great idea, take a Cy Young candidate pitcher who can't produce in the postseason over a perennial MVP candidate who can't produce in the postseason. They'll demand the same price...

SoRight24
10-30-2007, 12:42 AM
Great idea, take a Cy Young candidate pitcher who can't produce in the postseason over a perennial MVP candidate who can't produce in the postseason. They'll demand the same price...

At least he doesn't bring the media circus with him and act like a douche.

ProudestAnt
10-30-2007, 12:42 AM
I didn't put them in the playoffs I said as long as they make playoffs I would rather have a player that is awesome in both the post season and regular season then a player who is "apparently god's gift to Baseball" according to some in the regular season and not good or proven in the post season. How is a guy who hits .279 in the postseason not good or proven?

ProudestAnt
10-30-2007, 12:43 AM
At least he doesn't bring the media circus with him and act like a douche. So you missed Johan's comments about ownership in Minnesota, right?

SoRight24
10-30-2007, 12:44 AM
So you missed Johan's comments about ownership in Minnesota, right?

It was true.

Their ownership sucks. They never spend any money.

ProudestAnt
10-30-2007, 12:45 AM
It was true.

Their ownership sucks. They never spend any money. But it's not a player's place to say that during the season. It was a classless act...

aeroshady
10-30-2007, 12:45 AM
How is a guy who hits .279 in the postseason not good or proven?

Because pretty much everyone on the Red Sox hit .300 or better for the most part....so A-Rod is still a down grade.

aeroshady
10-30-2007, 12:46 AM
But it's not a player's place to say that during the season. It was a classless act...

And A-Rod opting out during the deciding game of the World Series was not?

ProudestAnt
10-30-2007, 12:47 AM
Because pretty much everyone on the Red Sox hit .300 or better for the most part....so A-Rod is still a down grade. In one postseason series against the ROCKIES...

ProudestAnt
10-30-2007, 12:47 AM
And A-Rod opting out during the deciding game of the World Series was not? Did I say that?

ProudestAnt
10-30-2007, 12:49 AM
Hey, let's take a look at Julio Lugo's post-season stats:

.233, .303, 0, 3, 1. MAN OH MAN!! We are better off! Good thing I checked!

aeroshady
10-30-2007, 12:49 AM
In one postseason series against the ROCKIES...

Yeah but we don't know what A-Rod would have hit in that series because he can't get his team out of a first round.

SoRight24
10-30-2007, 12:50 AM
He's not coming to Boston anyways, so no use in arguing over it.

rickyh24
10-30-2007, 12:51 AM
He's not coming to Boston anyways, so no use in arguing over it.



you banking on the dodgers?

SoRight24
10-30-2007, 12:52 AM
you banking on the dodgers?

Them or Anaheim.

ProudestAnt
10-30-2007, 12:52 AM
Yeah but we don't know what A-Rod would have hit in that series because he can't get his team out of a first round. Why should he be single handedly responsible for getting his team out of the first round? He hit .267, which wasn't exactly anemic. The team as a whole hit .228 and by the way, A-Rod had a better average than everyone on the team other than Cano and Damon...

aeroshady
10-30-2007, 12:52 AM
He's not coming to Boston anyways, so no use in arguing over it.

Yeah I hope this is true, I just can't believe that some people think he is the best player of all time. I will always argue that someone who has not produced 1 clutch performance in the post season is not even close to being the best player of all time.

SoRight24
10-30-2007, 12:54 AM
Yeah I hope this is true, I just can't believe that some people think he is the best player of all time. I will always argue that someone who has not produced 1 clutch performance in the post season is not even close to being the best player of all time.

Yeah, I mean I feel he is the best player in the game currently, obviously.

But not the best of all time, he's top 5 though.

rickyh24
10-30-2007, 12:54 AM
Yeah I hope this is true, I just can't believe that some people think he is the best player of all time. I will always argue that someone who has not produced 1 clutch performance in the post season is not even close to being the best player of all time.



i dont really think that makes sense. so if he never go into the postseason would you consider him to be one of the best?

ProudestAnt
10-30-2007, 12:55 AM
i dont really think that makes sense. so if he never go into the postseason would you consider him to be one of the best? Exactly...

aeroshady
10-30-2007, 12:55 AM
Why should he be single handedly responsible for getting his team out of the first round? He hit .267, which wasn't exactly anemic. The team as a whole hit .228 and by the way, A-Rod had a better average than everyone on the team other than Cano and Damon...

BTW have you ever been to Boston? Everyone here pretty much HATES him. If he did come to Boston it would be VERY hard for him to win over the fans. Why would The Sox, A-Rod or the Fans want to deal with that. I don't think he would fit in well at all, I don't think he is worth that much money, and finally I don't think the Red Sox need him.

rickyh24
10-30-2007, 12:57 AM
Exactly...



everyone seems to forget what he did to get the Yankees there...

SoRight24
10-30-2007, 12:57 AM
everyone seems to forget what he did to get the Yankees there...

I haven't forgotten.

I know he's damn good, I just don't want him in Boston.

Period.

aeroshady
10-30-2007, 12:57 AM
i dont really think that makes sense. so if he never go into the postseason would you consider him to be one of the best?

I would consider him the best regular season player of all time...which to me = biggest waste of talent of all time. But if he never got into a Post Season I would feel bad for him, because that would mean he never had a chance to prove himself....in reality he has had that chance.

rickyh24
10-30-2007, 12:58 AM
BTW have you ever been to Boston? Everyone here pretty much HATES him. If he did come to Boston it would be VERY hard for him to win over the fans. Why would The Sox, A-Rod or the Fans want to deal with that. I don't think he would fit in well at all, I don't think he is worth that much money, and finally I don't think the Red Sox need him.

it would take about one walk off homer.

ProudestAnt
10-30-2007, 12:59 AM
BTW have you ever been to Boston? Everyone here pretty much HATES him. If he did come to Boston it would be VERY hard for him to win over the fans. Why would The Sox, A-Rod or the Fans want to deal with that. I don't think he would fit in well at all, I don't think he is worth that much money, and finally I don't think the Red Sox need him. Why do people hate him? Maybe because he's the best player on our rival team? Hmm.

A-Rod doesn't give a shit WHERE he plays. He'll go back to the Yankees if they put in the highest bid, all he cares about is the money.

And of course the Red Sox don't NEED him. We don't NEED Mike Lowell either, but you want to resign him. Even though A-Rod has better postseason numbers than Lowell...

rickyh24
10-30-2007, 12:59 AM
I haven't forgotten.

I know he's damn good, I just don't want him in Boston.

Period.



:thumbsup if he didn't play for Seattle before New York i wouldn't want him either....I loved him then..

aeroshady
10-30-2007, 01:00 AM
it would take about one walk off homer.

Maybe but it would take about 1 bad post season game for him to be booed at every at bat. Or one slump.

Bottom Line I don't want him in Boston and I think you will find that most Boston fans would agree with me.

aeroshady
10-30-2007, 01:03 AM
Why do people hate him? Maybe because he's the best player on our rival team? Hmm.

A-Rod doesn't give a shit WHERE he plays. He'll go back to the Yankees if they put in the highest bid, all he cares about is the money.

And of course the Red Sox don't NEED him. We don't NEED Mike Lowell either, but you want to resign him. Even though A-Rod has better postseason numbers than Lowell...

I mean good point on the rival team thing. But there you have it. Money. Now I am not going to argue that the players on the Sox don't care about money, because that would be retarded. But I will argue that there is more to it than money for most of the players on the team. All that matters to A-Rod is money. I would rather have a player like Lowell that does care because he likes playing in Boston over a player who does not care about Boston...just their money.

ProudestAnt
10-30-2007, 01:05 AM
I mean good point on the rival team thing. But there you have it. Money. Now I am not going to argue that the players on the Sox don't care about money, because that would be retarded. But I will argue that there is more to it than money for most of the players on the team. All that matters to A-Rod is money. I would rather have a player like Lowell that does care because he likes playing in Boston over a player who does not care about Boston...just their money. Psst, the only players who care WHERE they play are the ones who aren't good enough to play on any team in the majors (Trot in his day, Tek, Youk, Dustin immediately come to mind)...

SoRight24
10-30-2007, 01:07 AM
Psst, the only players who care WHERE they play are the ones who aren't good enough to play on any team in the majors (Trot in his day, Tek, Youk, Dustin immediately come to mind)...

Chipper Jones?

He took a paycut to stay in Atlanta.

aeroshady
10-30-2007, 01:09 AM
Psst, the only players who care WHERE they play are the ones who aren't good enough to play on any team in the majors (Trot in his day, Tek, Youk, Dustin immediately come to mind)...

are you even a Sox fan?? Perdroia is one of the best rookies in the league and Youk was awesome this year, how could you say they are not good enough to play on any other team?

ProudestAnt
10-30-2007, 01:11 AM
are you even a Sox fan?? Perdroia is one of the best rookies in the league and Youk was awesome this year, how could you say they are not good enough to play on any other team? They could play for a lot of teams out there, but there aren't that many teams that would make room for guys like them. My point is, with guys like A-Rod, Vlad, Papi, Manny, Furcal, Miggy, and other PREMIER players, teams would sign first and worry about where they'd play later. That's why these guys aren't worried about testing FA waters, they know they'll demand top dollar anywhere...

ProudestAnt
10-30-2007, 01:12 AM
Chipper Jones?

He took a paycut to stay in Atlanta. There are of course exceptions, Chipper and Jeter being two that immediately come to mind...

SoRight24
10-30-2007, 01:13 AM
I just think A-Rod would fuck up the chemistry on this team.

ProudestAnt
10-30-2007, 01:14 AM
I just think A-Rod would fuck up the chemistry on this team. Did you watch A-Rod in his days with Seattle? Him and Griffey had a fucking blast in that dugout. I think a fun-loving, carefree team like Boston would be a perfect place for a guy like A-Rod to play in. It would keep him from pressing and trying to impress people...

SoRight24
10-30-2007, 01:16 AM
Let me state though, I don't want him here, but if for some reason he does end up here, I will support the hell out of him.

:lol

aeroshady
10-30-2007, 01:18 AM
Let me state though, I don't want him here, but if for some reason he does end up here, I will support the hell out of him.

:lol

:thumbsup Me too, I will just not like it :lol

ProudestAnt
10-30-2007, 01:19 AM
I'll be first in line for an A-Rod jersey...

SoRight24
10-30-2007, 01:23 AM
I'll be first in line for an A-Rod jersey...

Well I wouldn't go that far. ;)

Btw I forgot to ask you man, how was it witnessing history last night?

ProudestAnt
10-30-2007, 01:24 AM
Well I wouldn't go that far. ;)

Btw I forgot to ask you man, how was it witnessing history last night? Unreal. Single greatest experience of my life...

cruscott35
10-30-2007, 06:32 AM
Maybe but it would take about 1 bad post season game for him to be booed at every at bat. Or one slump.

Bottom Line I don't want him in Boston and I think you will find that most Boston fans would agree with me.


I guess I just always assumed Boston fans were smarter than they actually are.

There's no such thing as bad chemistry on a winning team.

There's no such thing as being better than you are in the post season. Why not pretend you are in the post season all the time then? If you suck in the post season, just pretend you're in the regular season. :BANG :BANG

cruscott35
10-30-2007, 06:33 AM
I just think A-Rod would fuck up the chemistry on this team.



Not if you're winning 100xs a season... Look down the road at Moss for a prime example.

crashintome202
10-30-2007, 03:55 PM
BTW have you ever been to Boston? Everyone here pretty much HATES him. If he did come to Boston it would be VERY hard for him to win over the fans. Why would The Sox, A-Rod or the Fans want to deal with that. I don't think he would fit in well at all, I don't think he is worth that much money, and finally I don't think the Red Sox need him.
everyone hated him in new york before he got here. think about it: he ditches the yankees for boston, they'd suck his dick there.

crashintome202
10-30-2007, 03:57 PM
There are of course exceptions, Chipper and Jeter being two that immediately come to mind...
jeter taking a paycut is 20 million dollars for an average shortstop who's clutch died years ago? when was this a deal?

aeroshady
10-30-2007, 04:51 PM
I guess I just always assumed Boston fans were smarter than they actually are.

There's no such thing as bad chemistry on a winning team.

There's no such thing as being better than you are in the post season. Why not pretend you are in the post season all the time then? If you suck in the post season, just pretend you're in the regular season. :BANG :BANG

Bottom line the A-Rod supporters think he is god's gift to baseball and the A-Rod hater's think he is a post season flop not worth the money. All I know is I just got back from a parade with about 1,000,000 Sox fans chanting "Don't Sign A-Rod" so I think United We Stand as a fan base. end of thread.

cbotnyse
10-30-2007, 04:54 PM
Bottom line the A-Rod supporters think he is god's gift to baseball and the A-Rod hater's think he is a post season flop not worth the money. All I know is I just got back from a parade with about 1,000,000 Sox fans chanting "Don't Sign A-Rod" so I think United We Stand as a fan base. end of thread.and if Boston does sign him you will all be "United We Stand" cheering him on. No offense, but "Red Sox Nation" is getting really obnoxious.

chr35919
10-30-2007, 05:01 PM
and if Boston does sign him you will all be "United We Stand" cheering him on. No offense, but "Red Sox Nation" is getting really obnoxious.
nope. we're never united when it comes to loving or hating a player

SoRight24
10-30-2007, 05:06 PM
nope. we're never united when it comes to loving or hating a player

Perfect example: Manny Ramirez.

I personally love the guy, but know tons of Sox fans who hate him.

aeroshady
10-30-2007, 05:22 PM
nope. we're never united when it comes to loving or hating a player

ok true. but again for the most part everyone is against him coming to bean town

aeroshady
10-30-2007, 05:23 PM
and if Boston does sign him you will all be "United We Stand" cheering him on. No offense, but "Red Sox Nation" is getting really obnoxious.

Yeah I will root for him, but I will not like it. But I also think the A-Rod fans not understanding why people don't like him are being just as obnoxious.

chr35919
10-30-2007, 05:31 PM
ok true. but again for the most part everyone is against him coming to bean towni dunno about that

edit: i would say it's 70/30

aeroshady
10-30-2007, 05:32 PM
i dunno about that

edit: i would say it's 70/40

I guess you were not in Boston the last few days?? I mean how could you miss everyone bashing him and chanting "Don't Sign A-Rod"??

chr35919
10-30-2007, 05:35 PM
I guess you were not in Boston the last few days?? I mean how could you miss everyone bashing him and chanting "Don't Sign A-Rod"??i don't want a-rod in boston, however, some people aren't blinded by dislike and can see his talent.

rickyh24
11-05-2007, 01:34 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Red-Sox-would-be-No-1-on-A-Rod-s-list?urn=mlb,52279

chr35919
11-05-2007, 01:37 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Red-Sox-would-be-No-1-on-A-Rod-s-list?urn=mlb,52279
interesting. but i don't see them opening up their wallet to the tune of $350 mil

rickyh24
11-05-2007, 01:41 AM
interesting. but i don't see them opening up their wallet to the tune of $350 mil



its possible he might not want that from them...im starting to think he just wanted out of NY. He wants to be part of this dynasty thing we are in the midst of starting.

BlueWaterBF36
11-05-2007, 09:03 AM
i don't want a-rod in boston, however, some people aren't blinded by dislike and can see his talent.

You'd have to be a baseball idiot to deny his talent, but I think the concerns about postseason performance in a high pressure market are legit questions.

Tambou
11-05-2007, 09:47 AM
I want the Sox to re sign Mike Lowell. That is all I will say on this issue.

rickyh24
11-05-2007, 11:26 AM
I want the Sox to re sign Mike Lowell. That is all I will say on this issue.



its really not even the same issue. Arod would most likely move back to his real position if the sox did try to get him.

rconverse
11-05-2007, 01:23 PM
Why would a team without A-Rod that just won the WS pay $300 mil for a player on a team that they are already better than and who for sure won't be playing for their division rival? Let any other team have him.

rickyh24
11-05-2007, 01:25 PM
Why would a team without A-Rod that just won the WS pay $300 mil for a player on a team that they are already better than and who for sure won't be playing for their division rival? Let any other team have him.


because he is the best player in baseball.

when you consider it would be 300 million for like 10 years...i think he is well worth it.

chr35919
11-05-2007, 01:27 PM
its possible he might not want that from them...im starting to think he just wanted out of NY. He wants to be part of this dynasty thing we are in the midst of starting.I could see them doing $200 million.

but the only thing is, what about manny? if a-rod is making more than him, i think he'll leave.

rickyh24
11-05-2007, 01:32 PM
I could see them doing $200 million.

but the only thing is, what about manny? if a-rod is making more than him, i think he'll leave.

well he hit 20 HR's last year with 88 rbi's. if you go by numbers Arod should make about double what manny makes. :lol

rickyh24
11-05-2007, 01:38 PM
http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/salaries/teamdetail.aspx?year=2007&team=3&order=Salary+desc


with schilling most likely not returning, lugo is probably gone, hinske, clemente etc. they have some loot to throw around.

rickyh24
11-05-2007, 03:04 PM
Arod quote from a yahoo article

"I love being the highest-paid player in the game. It's pretty cool. I like making that money," he said. "You get crushed, but you know what? It's pretty cool I enjoy it."


:lol

ProudestAnt
11-05-2007, 03:54 PM
I'm really warming up to the idea of A-Rod, moreso than before. With Lugo's contract out of the way (8.5 mil a year), Clement definitely gone (9.5 mil a year), we obviously wouldn't be able to resign Schilling (13 mil), Crisp will be traded (3.8 mil), and only Pedroia, Youkilis and Paps ready to re-up (all guys who would take lower contracts to stay in Boston), we would be more than able to pay A-Rod's contract demands, tune of 260-320 mil for 10-12 years...

rickyh24
11-05-2007, 04:02 PM
I'm really warming up to the idea of A-Rod, moreso than before. With Lugo's contract out of the way (8.5 mil a year), Clement definitely gone (9.5 mil a year), we obviously wouldn't be able to resign Schilling (13 mil), Crisp will be traded (3.8 mil), and only Pedroia, Youkilis and Paps ready to re-up (all guys who would take lower contracts to stay in Boston), we would be more than able to pay A-Rod's contract demands, tune of 260-320 mil for 10-12 years...




i would love for them to get him and keep lowell. where would you bat Arod??? 5th? i was thinking today of the possibility of maybe batting him 2nd.

Ellsbury
Arod
Ortiz
Manny
Lowell
Youk
Pedroia

:lol

rickyh24
11-05-2007, 04:04 PM
don't forget Hinske at 5 mill will be gone too

cruscott35
11-05-2007, 04:15 PM
i would love for them to get him and keep lowell. where would you bat Arod??? 5th? i was thinking today of the possibility of maybe batting him 2nd.

Ellsbury
Arod
Ortiz
Manny
Lowell
Youk
Pedroia

:lol


You bat him fourth. No matter who else you've got on your team, you bat him fourth. Lets not let homerism trick you into thinking that any hitter on your team is better than A-Rod.

cruscott35
11-05-2007, 04:16 PM
I'm really warming up to the idea of A-Rod, moreso than before. With Lugo's contract out of the way (8.5 mil a year), Clement definitely gone (9.5 mil a year), we obviously wouldn't be able to resign Schilling (13 mil), Crisp will be traded (3.8 mil), and only Pedroia, Youkilis and Paps ready to re-up (all guys who would take lower contracts to stay in Boston), we would be more than able to pay A-Rod's contract demands, tune of 260-320 mil for 10-12 years...


You've got a lot more faith in athletes than I do.

rickyh24
11-05-2007, 04:18 PM
You bat him fourth. No matter who else you've got on your team, you bat him fourth. Lets not let homerism trick you into thinking that any hitter on your team is better than A-Rod.



when did i ever say he was not better than anyone?

i am thinking second because he has speed and he would be on base for ortiz and manny. He would get more at bats batting second in the order too.

ProudestAnt
11-05-2007, 05:42 PM
You've got a lot more faith in athletes than I do. I've got faith in guys who have had a team make concessions to get them into the starting lineup:

Pedroia: Moved to second so he isn't following Hanley Ramirez.

Youk: Moved from 3rd to 1st when Mike Lowell was signed just to get him in the lineup.

Paps: Allowed him to choose his position.

I rarely believe in guys staying loyal to their team, but I really think these guys realize how much this team has done in order to make sure they get in the lineup. And I really believe they love it here...

ProudestAnt
11-05-2007, 05:43 PM
i would love for them to get him and keep lowell. where would you bat Arod??? 5th? i was thinking today of the possibility of maybe batting him 2nd.

Ellsbury
Arod
Ortiz
Manny
Lowell
Youk
Pedroia

:lol You bat him 3rd IMO.

Ellsbury
Youkilis
A-Rod
Ortiz
Manny
Lowell
Varitek
Pedroia

rickyh24
11-05-2007, 05:45 PM
You bat him 3rd IMO.

Ellsbury
Youkilis
A-Rod
Ortiz
Manny
Lowell
Varitek
Pedroia



how the hell did i forget varitek?? thats kinda funny.

ProudestAnt
11-05-2007, 05:45 PM
how the hell did i forget varitek?? thats kinda funny. I wish I could forget him...

rickyh24
11-05-2007, 05:46 PM
I wish I could forget him...

:lol

SoMuchToSay_07
11-05-2007, 06:23 PM
not a Sox fan, but 300 mil is way too much, and could be spent on other quality players.

rickyh24
11-05-2007, 06:23 PM
not a Sox fan, but 300 mil is way too much, and could be spent on other quality players.


its for 10-12 years

rickyh24
11-05-2007, 06:25 PM
if Matt Clement is worth almost 10 million, A-Rod is worth 25-30 no question.

ProudestAnt
11-05-2007, 06:35 PM
not a Sox fan, but 300 mil is way too much, and could be spent on other quality players.
but what quality players do the Sox need to sign? Aside from Lowell, we are set for players for next season...

loogs91
11-05-2007, 11:05 PM
if Matt Clement is worth almost 10 million, A-Rod is worth 25-30 no question.

clement may get paid 10 mil, but i would question your word choice when you say he is WORTH anything at all