Speculate: Where do you foresee the 2008 album ranking?

[DMB0715]

I know it's a tough question/weird thread, but why the hell not. Everyone has their different opinions on what the album is going to consist of. Some people think the album is going to be a ton of new songs, a lot of people think this is when all of the road tested stuff gets thrown together. Many agree that this album is going to be better than Everyday and Stand Up. Will is surpass Busted Stuff? Any chance in hell it touches the Big 3? Vote for what you personally think is going to make the cut on the album, and discuss away.
Also, to make things a little more clear, I'm not including R2T. Just UTTAD, Crash, BTCS, Everyday, Busted Stuff and Stand Up.

[spoot388]

If they continue to make songs the quality of Shotgun, Cornbread, and #27, it will be up there with Busted Stuff and everybody's person #3 of the big 3. A solid 7, maybe even better. I don't think we'll be disappointed with this album. The band knows they need to make something good, and I believe they will come through.

[Hawk#41]

Judging by the most recent songs, especially Shotgun, I think it is clear that Dave is writing better lyrics than he has in a while. He even admits to having been in a creative slump which I think he is coming out of. I think that they are still fully capable of making their best album ever, but this time around I don't think it will happen. Most likely, an album that is on par with Busted Stuff ... which if it weren't for everyone knowing about tLWS is a great album in itself.

[Hawk#41]

If they continue to make songs the quality of Shotgun, Cornbread, and #27, it will be up there with Busted Stuff and everybody's person #3 of the big 3. A solid 7, maybe even better. I don't think we'll be disappointed with this album. The band knows they need to make something good, and I believe they will come through.


This is probably one of the main reasons why I am confident about the next album, they know it needs to be good ... and they are taking their time because of that.

[thestand]

If the album was to come out with no songs we didn't already know, it has a chance at 5, maybe 4. But after that, I'm not really up to speculate. However, Dave's writing practices in the past year are very promising that he may have reverted to his older, better ways.

[tmorry326]

Well, Busted Stuff sucks because of tLWS. Hard.

I think it could have a chance to get 4. Should be better than SU. I'll vote 5 just because it's a toss up between A) who is better ED/BS and b) will it be better than either.

I say 5, potentially 4.

[Biggie S.]

i think there gonna surprise a lot of people and come out with an amazing album

[buzz05232000]

I'm gonna go 1st. It'll be better than all the big three put together.

[Swizz2007]

Obviously there's no way any of us could know this...I went with 4th though. I feel like they have a very strong album coming. Hopefully that's not just wishful thinking.

[DMB0715]

I'm gonna go 1st. It'll be better than all the big three put together.
I was actually thinking about not putting the 1st, 2nd and 3rd options in at all but I knew people would be like "WTF BROSEPH!?"

[DMB0715]

Obviously there's no way any of us could know this...I went with 4th though. I feel like they have a very strong album coming. Hopefully that's not just wishful thinking.

Key word: Speculate;)

[tmorry326]

Without Steve, it cannot crack the top 3 anyways.

[hearmorphish]

i can't see it not being better than SU and ED. from what we've heard i'd say there's a good chance it beats BS, so i say 4.

[born 1991]

With how they've been playing over the last summer and the style in their new songs, I'd say it would be just above SU, ED, and BS; hopefully at least tied with their 3rd best album.

[buzz05232000]

If it beats BS then I'll jerk off on my grandma's face.

It'll probably come out at #5

[tmorry326]

If it beats BS then I'll jerk off on my grandma's face.

It'll probably come out at #5

Holding you to that. Probably making it my sig.

P.S. Busted Stuff sort of blows anyways.

[DMB0715]

If it beats BS then I'll jerk off on my grandma's face.

It'll probably come out at #5

That's a pretty big statement this early on!

[buzz05232000]

:lol

[buzz05232000]

It is just that their fanbase is so broad now, I don't think you'll see anything that is targeted to the intense part of the fanbase. It's sad, but I think it is probably true. Plus you look at the songs, Cornbread, Eh Hee, Break Free, KTK, they're are not very good.

[DMB0715]

It is just that their fanbase is so broad now, I don't think you'll see anything that is targeted to the intense part of the fanbase. It's sad, but I think it is probably true. Plus you look at the songs, Cornbread, Eh Hee, Break Free, KTK, they're are not very good.

Agreed.

Minus Break Free. I will forever love it.

[MistreatedLewis]

I think the album has a ceiling of decent - maybe Everyday quality.
I suspect it won't be quite as good as Everyday. So I anticipate

4. Everyday 5. LP7 6. Busted Stuff 7. Stand Up

[tmorry326]

4. Everyday 5. LP7 6. Busted Stuff 7. Stand Up

Agreed, as said earlier. I think it could crack ED and take the 4 spot, but probably not.

[TwoStep2888]

I'll say 5th. I would hope it's better than Busted Stuff or Stand Up, but I don't see it being better than Everyday, Before These Crowded Streets, Crash, or Under The Table And Dreaming.

[rickyh24]

5th...

[Swizz2007]

This album HAS to be better than Everyday. Or I don't know if I can be a fan anymore.

I feel like Cornbread, #27, A Dream So Real, and Shotgun are better than 90% of the shit from Everyday and Stand Up though, so I think we're in good shape.

[MistreatedLewis]

This album HAS to be better than Everyday. Or I don't know if I can be a fan anymore.

I feel like Cornbread, #27, A Dream So Real, and Shotgun are better than 90% of the shit from Everyday and Stand Up though, so I think we're in good shape.

I Did It, The Space Between, DOOF, So Right, IIHIA, WYA, STDH > Cornbread

[DMB0715]

I Did It, The Space Between, DOOF, So Right, IIHIA, WYA, STDH > Cornbread
Disagreed with the bolds.

[kerplunk!]

I Did It, The Space Between, DOOF, So Right, IIHIA, WYA, STDH > Cornbread

Musically, Cornbread kicks all these song's asses. And I like a lot of them, too.

[kerplunk!]

And I say the new album will be at least as good as Busted Stuff.

Then again, I've said this before...:rolleyes

[Rogue]

Ima say 4th. Good new tunes, hopefully a live song or 2, and maybe a surprise.

[Swizz2007]

I Did It, The Space Between, DOOF, So Right, IIHIA, WYA, STDH > Cornbread

You've got to be kidding me.

The only ones that hold validity at all are So Right and What You Are. You could have a case there. Even still, not sure if I agree with that.

I've seen you complain about DMB's current lyrics, and you compliment I Did It? DOOF and STDH are just not good songs. If I Had It All is not bad, it's just got that blandness that the whole Everyday album has; it's just there, no passion, doesn't seem like the band is having fun or really cares about what they're playing at all. The Space Between is better, but it doesn't have a lot of replay value.

The only reason you can possibly hold Everyday in such a high regard is because you were obsessed with DMB when it came out. I didn't get into them until early 2005, so I can look at the album without tainted eyes and tell you that it's not good.

[hearmorphish]

how does anyone have everyday above BS:confused

[MistreatedLewis]

You've got to be kidding me.

The only ones that hold validity at all are So Right and What You Are. You could have a case there. Even still, not sure if I agree with that.

I've seen you complain about DMB's current lyrics, and you compliment I Did It? DOOF and STDH are just not good songs. If I Had It All is not bad, it's just got that blandness that the whole Everyday album has; it's just there, no passion, doesn't seem like the band is having fun or really cares about what they're playing at all. The Space Between is better, but it doesn't have a lot of replay value.

The only reason you can possibly hold Everyday in such a high regard is because you were obsessed with DMB when it came out. I didn't get into them until early 2005, so I can look at the album without tainted eyes and tell you that it's not good.

You're just wrong about I Did It, DOOF, and STDH. All of them are worlds better than anything that came out of the SU sessions, and they are better than most of the 06-07 songs. Without question.

Everyday is not a good DMB album - but it is a decent album in its own right.

[MistreatedLewis]

how does anyone have everyday above BS:confused

Everyday succeeds at what it was trying to do to a decent degree: be a solid album of mainstream pop/rock type songs. It's a failure as a DMB album, but I think it competes with albums released by similar artists of the era - U2, R.E.M., Counting Crows, etc etc.

Busted Stuff completely fails at what it was trying to do: be a successful re-do of tLWS. And it falls completely flat. It's a snoozefest of an album. It's like the dead body of tLWS without the soul.

[buzz05232000]

You wouldn't hate BS so much if tLWS hadn't existed.

[jordanbball17]

You wouldn't hate BS so much if tLWS hadn't existed.
:thumbsup

[tmorry326]

You wouldn't hate BS so much if tLWS hadn't existed.


Busted Stuff completely fails at what it was trying to do: be a successful re-do of tLWS. And it falls completely flat. It's a snoozefest of an album. It's like the dead body of tLWS without the soul.

But it does exist, and ^^ that ^^ sums it up. It falls short of what we knew it could have been. It is a soulless tLWS.

[buzz05232000]

But wouldn't you be biased then, when rating BS? Because you are influenced on what might have been.

[tmorry326]

But wouldn't you be biased then, when rating BS? Because you are influenced on what might have been.

Might have been = Was. The sessions happened. We heard them. They exist.

Plus, some of the songs aren't bad simply because they were better at one point. You would hear some of the shallowness or soulesness and THINK of how they could have been better. Sort of like stuff from Stand Up. We hear them and know how they could be fixed to be a more full song. But with BS/tLWS instead of thinking it, we can actually hear it too.

...and on top of all of that we wouldn't get the "apology" album that is BS if tLWS hadn't leaked in the first place.

BS doesn't exist without tLWS. BS doesn't pale in comparassion to tLWS because there were no tLWS.

[dontburnthe_pig]

It has potential from what songs we've seen come out the last couple years, but at best, I say 4th or 5th.

[Swizz2007]

You're just wrong about I Did It, DOOF, and STDH. All of them are worlds better than anything that came out of the SU sessions, and they are better than most of the 06-07 songs. Without question.

Everyday is not a good DMB album - but it is a decent album in its own right.

Think you could explain what you find good at all about I Did It?

[bibby1044]

The hatred for DOOF on these boards is something Ill never understand.

[n3wyears]

you cant judge at all, but i say 3 because im optimistic (sp?)

[DMB0715]

Interesting how so far people have it above Busted Stuff.

[ant_marching41]

A very good solid 5th would be fine by me.

Edit: I say that because I don't wanna give my hopes up again.

[Benco]

Think you could explain what you find good at all about I Did It?

Great guitar riff.

[ant_marching41]

Great guitar riff.
Aside from the guitar riff, I've grown to accept the lyrics in the verses.

[Swizz2007]

Great guitar riff.

The guitar riff is pretty good...certainly not enough to carry the entire song.

[MistreatedLewis]

Think you could explain what you find good at all about I Did It?

The lyrics are somwhat clever and clerky - not nearly as good as WWYS or SMTS, but better than Stay and a whole lot fuckin better then Everyday or Cornbread.

The guitar riff is great.

On the studio track, I love the harmony on the third that Carter does, although he never sings that live. Frown.

Dave's vocal line harmonizing with the guitar part is sweet.

It has a unique sound to it.

[MistreatedLewis]

You wouldn't hate BS so much if tLWS hadn't existed.

Truth. But, unfortunately, it does, we have it, and that changes everything.

[MistreatedLewis]

But wouldn't you be biased then, when rating BS? Because you are influenced on what might have been.

No. What might of been is not hearing the Lillywhites. What actually has been has been hearing the Lillywhites, and they reveal how pathetic the BS sessions really are, whereas Everyday has some merits to it. That's how things actually are, not how they could have been.

[hoke2007]

4th, maybe 5th at worst. I see this album being as good (or better) than Busted Stuff. I'm thinking slightly better...

[bphlzl]

I speculate this album will be shockingly good, top 3 good.

[Swizz2007]

The lyrics are somwhat clever and clerky - not nearly as good as WWYS or SMTS, but better than Stay and a whole lot fuckin better then Everyday or Cornbread.

The guitar riff is great.

On the studio track, I love the harmony on the third that Carter does, although he never sings that live. Frown.

Dave's vocal line harmonizing with the guitar part is sweet.

It has a unique sound to it.

I assume you meant clever and 'quirky'...I just listened to this whole album last night again, and still felt the same way about I Did It's lyrics...really bland and bad. Just to be sure, I just looked them up online. Not a clever line to be found IMO...anything in particular you like about this song lyrically? Cuz I got nothing.

The guitar riff is certainly good, but I don't see how it's really great. And as for a unique sound...I think we all know that isn't necessarily good. Smooth Rider is unique for DMB now but that doesn't even remotely make it a good song.

I'm sure we won't be changing each other's minds on this song, I just find it absolutely shocking that you would praise I Did It, and rip apart Cornbread. Like I said, I think this might have to do with an obsession with the band when this album came out, thus making excuses for subpar material. :thumbsup

[RobRoy286]

1. UTTAD/Crash/BTCS
2. UTTAD/Crash/BTCS
3. UTTAD/Crash/BTCS
4. 2008 Album
5. Everyday
6. Busted Stuff

[RobRoy286]

I'm sure we won't be changing each other's minds on this song, I just find it absolutely shocking that you would praise I Did It, and rip apart Cornbread.Cornbread is so bad. All people can say about it is that it's "fun." It only has one verse that is repeated (and it's a terrible verse lyrically). The chorus is pretty brutal too.

I Did It actually has substance.

[Swizz2007]

I Did It actually has substance.

Statements like that demand an explanation.

[bibby1044]

I assume you meant clever and 'quirky'...I just listened to this whole album last night again, and still felt the same way about I Did It's lyrics...really bland and bad. Just to be sure, I just looked them up online. Not a clever line to be found IMO...anything in particular you like about this song lyrically? Cuz I got nothing.



cause Boyd raps duh.

[HolyCow]

I honest to goodness think this will be as good an album as DMB has ever produced. The undisputed best? Maybe not. But it will definitely be right there with BTCS, UTTAD and Crash.

[bibby1044]

I honest to goodness think this will be as good an album as DMB has ever produced. The undisputed best? Maybe not. But it will definitely be right there with BTCS, UTTAD and Crash.

Is there any reasoning to this, or you just have a feeling? If you dont want to answer its ok I was just curious.

[kydmb99]

I honest to goodness think this will be as good an album as DMB has ever produced. The undisputed best? Maybe not. But it will definitely be right there with BTCS, UTTAD and Crash.

The band has done absolutely nothing the last 3 years to make me believe this will be anywhere near the truth.... I hope you're right though.

[HolyCow]

Is there any reasoning to this, or you just have a feeling? If you dont want to answer its ok I was just curious.
I have a little reasoning, but part of it's just feeling.

I'll try and break it down:


1. New, road-tested songs. Granted, some people may not like them, but I think most of them are fantastic. Cornbread is the new Rapunzel, Shotgun is stunning, #27 is gorgeous and Idea of You is a nice little tune. A wonderful foundation for an album right there. Obviously, they may go a different route and not use some of these, but even so, the strength of those four alone shows that Dave's writing harder and the band's more focused.

2. New Producer/Self Produced. The band is clearly taking this album more seriously and working hard to return to greatness. Everyday was something new the band tried and it worked, but didn't work at the same time. Busted Stuff was very good but because of the Lillywhite Sessions, people didn't think it lived up and Stand Up was more of a rushed, "we're just having fun making music with this really cool producer" type of album. To me, it seems the band is serious about making great music. No more just having a good time.

3. The possibility of a few old songs making it. Could a #40 make the album? Sweet Up and Down? Sugar Will or Crazy-Easy? That would send this baby over the top if it had eight other solid songs.

4. The new stuff is revolving more around Dave's writing. Instead of having Boyd play a neat thing, let Stefan screw around (badly) on an electric guitar or have Carter come in and lay down a "sick beat," it seems the band is sort of returning to its old ways of letting Dave really write the songs and then they introduce their ideas along with what he's come up with. And I think that works best. Not to say that the rest of the band isn't helping write, because some of the best DMB songs were written together - I'm just talking about that the center appears to be Dave again, which is a good thing.

That's really all I can think of for now. I just think it will be really good.

[bibby1044]

^

I asked mainly because Im getting the same feeling.

I agree with Shotgun, #27 and Idea of You being a good start. I know IOY gets bashed on here anymore but after listening to it again, I dont see why it cant become a good song in the studio.

Throw those 3 songs with Crazy/Easy, Sugar Will and the new and improved Loving Wings can make a great album.

The Fly shows me that Dave still has it in him, he still has the ability left it just depends on the band to follow his lead.

Im glad some people on here are being positive.

[bphlzl]

I have a little reasoning, but part of it's just feeling.

I'll try and break it down:


1. New, road-tested songs. Granted, some people may not like them, but I think most of them are fantastic. Cornbread is the new Rapunzel, Shotgun is stunning, #27 is gorgeous and Idea of You is a nice little tune. A wonderful foundation for an album right there. Obviously, they may go a different route and not use some of these, but even so, the strength of those four alone shows that Dave's writing harder and the band's more focused.

2. New Producer/Self Produced. The band is clearly taking this album more seriously and working hard to return to greatness. Everyday was something new the band tried and it worked, but didn't work at the same time. Busted Stuff was very good but because of the Lillywhite Sessions, people didn't think it lived up and Stand Up was more of a rushed, "we're just having fun making music with this really cool producer" type of album. To me, it seems the band is serious about making great music. No more just having a good time.

3. The possibility of a few old songs making it. Could a #40 make the album? Sweet Up and Down? Sugar Will or Crazy-Easy? That would send this baby over the top if it had eight other solid songs.

4. The new stuff is revolving more around Dave's writing. Instead of having Boyd play a neat thing, let Stefan screw around (badly) on an electric guitar or have Carter come in and lay down a "sick beat," it seems the band is sort of returning to its old ways of letting Dave really write the songs and then they introduce their ideas along with what he's come up with. And I think that works best. Not to say that the rest of the band isn't helping write, because some of the best DMB songs were written together - I'm just talking about that the center appears to be Dave again, which is a good thing.

That's really all I can think of for now. I just think it will be really good.I think Sugar Will, SUAD, and Crazy-Easy were meant to be on the same album as songs like #27 and Shotgun. Lyrically, SW and Shotgun have the potential to be to this album what Last Stop and Dreaming Tree are to BTCS. Sweet Up and Down should appropriately be the title of the album. Musically, they all have great riffs/melodies, are well-structured, and fit together.

[crashintome202]

if SUAD, shotgun, crazy-easy, and sugar will make it and they are atleast pretty good on the album, its 4th.

[bibby1044]

^
Truth.

[Steelers36]

I think it will be 5 or 6 because I refuse to believe that they could produce another album as bad as Stand Up. I have not been impressed with any of the songs they played on the last few tours and I don't believe that any old songs will be recorded for this album. If they do attempt to, it will probably result in an Everyday like scenario where a classic is ruined. I hope they don't rush this out, if they didn't release it until next summer or fall I would be fine with that. I hope that would be enough time to write lyrics that aren't as terrible as the last albums or music that was built on more than two notes of Boyd picking his violin out of tune.

[bubba40]

IF Sugar Will, Crazy-Easy, and SUAD are on it, then it could be #4...

[DMB0715]

IF Sugar Will, Crazy-Easy, and SUAD are on it, then it could be #4...

But not if and only if.

[DancingNanc05]

I think it will be 5 or 6 because I refuse to believe that they could produce another album as bad as Stand Up. I have not been impressed with any of the songs they played on the last few tours and I don't believe that any old songs will be recorded for this album. If they do attempt to, it will probably result in an Everyday like scenario where a classic is ruined. I hope they don't rush this out, if they didn't release it until next summer or fall I would be fine with that. I hope that would be enough time to write lyrics that aren't as terrible as the last albums or music that was built on more than two notes of Boyd picking his violin out of tune.


Or like a BTCS scenario where they recorded older road tested songs and the album was amazing. Just because the songs aren't "fresh" material doesnt mean that it doesn't have potential. The DMB has been a proven road tested song type of band. They also will not have Glen Ballard to f up these older tunes and to simply hand the band the material to play. The entire band is taking this album seriously finally, I mean they did write an entire song in the middle of the tour last year. That to me sounds like a bit more of a commitment than we have seen in the past 7 years. I for one am very excited. Shotgun, Crazy Easy, Sugar Will, Loving Wings, Eh Hee, Cornbread, Sweet Up & Down, A Dream So Real. Now that to me sounds like a damn good start to a new album.

[Steelers36]

Or like a BTCS scenario where they recorded older road tested songs and the album was amazing. Just because the songs aren't "fresh" material doesnt mean that it doesn't have potential. The DMB has been a proven road tested song type of band. They also will not have Glen Ballard to f up these older tunes and to simply hand the band the material to play. The entire band is taking this album seriously finally, I mean they did write an entire song in the middle of the tour last year. That to me sounds like a bit more of a commitment than we have seen in the past 7 years. I for one am very excited. Shotgun, Crazy Easy, Sugar Will, Loving Wings, Eh Hee, Cornbread, Sweet Up & Down, A Dream So Real. Now that to me sounds like a damn good start to a new album.


Hello again was also road tested and they made that sound like shit on Stand Up. Sorry, I don't think that they have the ability to polish a song for an album without Lillywhite. They were able to make BTCS great with songs they wrote on the road because they were working with a producer that made them, they haven't shown me any commitment to producing anything up to their potential since. That was a decade ago. They seek out the producers that will either write the music for them or will just allow them to half ass it and get out of the studio.

[comerelaxnow]

how does anyone have everyday above BS:confused

:thumbsup no kidding!! busted stuff has amazing songs up and down. i can't believe a cd with that tracklist gets so much hate. people complain we didn't get LWS....whos fault was this?? not DMBs. if the LWS never got leaked who knows what we would have ended up getting.

[comerelaxnow]

Everyday isn't even a bad album. its diffrent and unique. great songs live too.

[dmb5570]

I was getting extremely excited for the potential for the album when it seemed like loving wings, sugar will, and crazy easy had potential on top of shotgun, and some of the ohter new stuff. I still think the band is in the best place musically they have been in a long while, but having those 2004 songs would have been great themselves, but would also have to set a high bar for the rest of the album. the album would have to flow, adn you cant have all those great songs and then throw in junk too. still excited but definitely feel more in the dark now than before.

[MistreatedLewis]

:thumbsup no kidding!! busted stuff has amazing songs up and down. i can't believe a cd with that tracklist gets so much hate. people complain we didn't get LWS....whos fault was this?? not DMBs. if the LWS never got leaked who knows what we would have ended up getting.

:lol you are such an idiot.

LWS was released AFTER Everyday had already come out and the band terminated relations with Lillywhite. They were not finishing that album. Get over it. It IS ONLY the band's fault.

[SmoothG]

I went with 6th. Ahead of only Stand Up. I hope I'm wrong.

[sully51]

I think the highest it can rank immediately, is 4th. And that would be a stellar album in my book. Then time will tell if it can break into the Big 3

[Gladstone]

People... A bunch of good songs (Crazy Easy, Sugar Will etc.) doesn't mean it will be a good album. It completely depends how much they're willing to perfectionize it and on how well the producer has a sense for beauty.

Also, stop wanting to have SUAD (or JTR) on the new album, it's almost bound to sound pale/shitty in comparison to the LWS.

[Pig17]

5th if we include the LWS.

[martindcx1e]

4th is my guess

[indianvik]

I get the feeling that many people think Lillywhite is more important in the studio than any of the band members. Granted, I don't know exactly what a producer does in the studio, but I feel that the writing of the music and lyrics is what's most important (ie the band).

Having said that, I also think this album will rank 4th. But can someone explain why not having Lillywhite this time around automatically disables this album from being more than just "good"?

[raddi]

how does anyone have everyday above BS:confused

Busted Stuff seems doomed to be under appreciated at least partly because they chose a minimalist approach to recording the album. It seems most folks around here like fussy production above all else. I love how sentiment towards Everyday has changed, almost a complete 180 degrees since five or six years ago.

I hate to be a downer, but based on what they've played, I'll be shocked if this new album ranks above sixth or fifth. But maybe that's just because my tastes have changed a lot since I got into this band.

[acost3]

Judging on what I heard in 27, cornbread, idoy, shotgun etc and if the 04 songs are thrown in (minus ggt and joy ride time because i don't think those songs would translate well onto album) I feel that the new album has a ton of potential. I wouldn't be suprised at all if it surpasses stand up and everyday ad may challenge busted stuff.

Adinyon Chacha Yakubu

[comerelaxnow]

:lol you are such an idiot.

LWS was released AFTER Everyday had already come out and the band terminated relations with Lillywhite. They were not finishing that album. Get over it. It IS ONLY the band's fault.


you don't know what would have happened so don't act like you do.

[comerelaxnow]

the band was pissed when the album was leaked and im sure the fact that it was leaked led them to make diffrent choices. who knows?? i don't and certainly you don't either.

[MistreatedLewis]

you don't know what would have happened so don't act like you do.

All I know is what DID happen.
They ditched Lillywhite and recorded / marketed / released Everyday.

I don't see how that isn't a million percent DMB's fault. Did someone hold a gun to their head and tell them to fire Lillywhite and use Ballard to write and record 12 new songs? No, noobody did.

[MistreatedLewis]

the band was pissed when the album was leaked and im sure the fact that it was leaked led them to make diffrent choices. who knows?? i don't and certainly you don't either.

I still know they didn't release it when they should have released it, which is, you know, winter 2001 after it was finished and Everyday didn't exist.

[MistreatedLewis]

And yes, in an empirical sense neither of us knows what would have happened. BUT, by your own implications, there is no way you can show there was a greater chance that DMB suddenly has a change of heart and finishes those sessions in 2002 rather than not, the tapes not getting leaked, and nobody ever hearing the last great music of DMB's career thus far. Your assertion that the band would have just released them is just as wild a speculation as that the band would have done what they actually did in reality, which was not release them.

[Swizz2007]

I have a little reasoning, but part of it's just feeling.

I'll try and break it down:


1. New, road-tested songs. Granted, some people may not like them, but I think most of them are fantastic. Cornbread is the new Rapunzel, Shotgun is stunning, #27 is gorgeous and Idea of You is a nice little tune. A wonderful foundation for an album right there. Obviously, they may go a different route and not use some of these, but even so, the strength of those four alone shows that Dave's writing harder and the band's more focused.

2. New Producer/Self Produced. The band is clearly taking this album more seriously and working hard to return to greatness. Everyday was something new the band tried and it worked, but didn't work at the same time. Busted Stuff was very good but because of the Lillywhite Sessions, people didn't think it lived up and Stand Up was more of a rushed, "we're just having fun making music with this really cool producer" type of album. To me, it seems the band is serious about making great music. No more just having a good time.

3. The possibility of a few old songs making it. Could a #40 make the album? Sweet Up and Down? Sugar Will or Crazy-Easy? That would send this baby over the top if it had eight other solid songs.

4. The new stuff is revolving more around Dave's writing. Instead of having Boyd play a neat thing, let Stefan screw around (badly) on an electric guitar or have Carter come in and lay down a "sick beat," it seems the band is sort of returning to its old ways of letting Dave really write the songs and then they introduce their ideas along with what he's come up with. And I think that works best. Not to say that the rest of the band isn't helping write, because some of the best DMB songs were written together - I'm just talking about that the center appears to be Dave again, which is a good thing.

That's really all I can think of for now. I just think it will be really good.

I agree with pretty much this whole post, except in #2 where you refer to Batson as a really cool producer :violent

[comerelaxnow]

And yes, in an empirical sense neither of us knows what would have happened. BUT, by your own implications, there is no way you can show there was a greater chance that DMB suddenly has a change of heart and finishes those sessions in 2002 rather than not, the tapes not getting leaked, and nobody ever hearing the last great music of DMB's career thus far. Your assertion that the band would have just released them is just as wild a speculation as that the band would have done what they actually did in reality, which was not release them.

i didn't say that they would have released it...i just said who knows what would have happened. apparently you do

lets just make this easy

ok lewis your right

[RobRoy286]

4th.

[BruceW]

im gonna say better than ED, BS, and SU....i sure hope it is...definitely has the potential with the list of songs from 04, 06/07

[mikepalmer2005]

im really hopeful for this album. i just hope and pray that Cavallo brings life back into the idea of you. i really loved that song near the beginning but it has since died for me. :(

[bubba40]

4th.

:thumbsup

[RobRoy286]

I'd actually like to change my answer.

1) BTCS
2) UTTAD
3) New Album
4) Crash
5) Everyday
6) Busted Stuff

[GLR87]

Im hoping better than stand up and everyday..

[richie2017]

Im hoping better than stand up and everyday..

:thumbsup

[mcw517]

I'm going with 5th:

1)BTCS
2)Crash
3)UTTAD
4) Busted Stuff
5) New Album
6) Everyday
7) Stand Up

[rickyh24]

The correct answer is 4th........











I hope....

[berman1125]

The correct answer is 4th........











I hope....





bingo

[dreamingzach]

1.BTCS
2.UTTAD
3.CRASH
4.BUSTED STUFF
5. 2008 album
6. everyday
7.Stand Up
I do like Stand Up and Everyday but I know they are the weaker two out of the seven. I don't want them to try to re produce another UTTAD, CRASH or BTCS, I just want an album that will kick ass, that will have alot of strength. Take your time DMB!