Do you think this album will top Stand Up?

[jmudmbphan]

stand up was god awful..will this one help us restore some faith in the band?

[DreamingDave]

I'm not sure.

[hoke2007]

Yes.

[sonofsuns34]

my main problem with standup is that it actually feels like a cut/paste job... sure that may be a creative way to make some songs but when you get something together have the band rerecord it so it doesnt sound so fucking blah and thrown together

[neumdogg]

Nope.

[Swizz2007]

Yes. Or else I give up.

[DMB0715]

Yes. Yes it will be.

[bibby1044]

my main problem with standup is that it actually feels like a cut/paste job... sure that may be a creative way to make some songs but when you get something together have the band rerecord it so it doesnt sound so fucking blah and thrown together

The segue between Hello Again and Bayou says it all.

Back to the thread, yes it will top Stand Up....by far.

[hoke2007]

The segue between Hello Again and Bayou says it all.

Yeah, that was pretty bad. I remember saying "what the hell?" when I first heard it. I want some segues like on BTCS. That would be magical.

[bibby1044]

I want some segues like on BTCS. That would be magical.

Yes indeed.

[Joyride4136]

it better top stand up. i think it will be up there

[sir iggius]

yes.

[awsomepath]

I hope so or I will probably be depressed for months/years

[tmorry326]

I think it has to be; for the sake of the band.

[loco27]

I have to agree that Stand Up wasn't one of their best albums but.....
a couple of those songs sounded great this summer, now that they have been polished up a bit! Bayou, You Might Die Trying American Baby Intro,
I thought they sounded better than I thought at first when I heard the CD.

[bibby1044]

I have to agree that Stand Up wasn't one of their best albums but.....
a couple of those songs sounded great this summer, now that they have been polished up a bit! Bayou, You Might Die Trying American Baby Intro,
I thought they sounded better than I thought at first when I heard the CD.
Just imagine if they took their time.

[Biggie S.]

yea im sure but after what happened last night im not to sure about anything

[patricksinger6]

yes, if not i'll kill myself

[MistreatedLewis]

By definition it has to, but I think it will probably be still pretty bad.

[LowEnd_Theory]

Yes... but thats very easily accomplished. If this album is even just ok (about Everyday quality), I think DMB needs to just hang it up and call it a day.

[PIG36]

Yes!

[theotisone]

Ill give it a yes, because i actually like some of the songs Fonz has rumored about being on the album.

[som3d3vil34]

Yes it will. Not too hard to do, but yes it will

[swenbater]

There is no way of knowing...

[bradshaw06]

i bet it'll top btcs

[ShotgunDMB]

I'll admit my expectations are pretty low....I think they gave up on excellence and working hard about 8 years ago.

[dmbatl07]

I'm extremely optimistic for some strange reason..

[Sniper15]

Yes it will

[SmoothD41]

I would actually be impressed if they could create something worse than Stand Up.

[spoot388]

Ill give it a yes, because i actually like some of the songs Fonz has rumored about being on the album.



but are they just looking at adding them because they know we'll like them even though they are old so they don't have to worry about fully creating another song that is good?


if loving wings is added, yeah, it will probably sound great and we'll all be happy to get a studio LW, but why should a song thats been around for several years be the reason why an album is good? the songs stefan has been talking about should be ignored when thinking about if the album is good or not. when it finally comes out, it will be a good album based on 2 things - 1) how well it was put together and 2) how good are the brand new songs

a bad production job makes good songs (like shotgun) go bad, and bad new songs could make a good production job a waste of time.

[dmbmuskie]

I don't think they could make something worse than Stand Up, but nothing would shock me at this point.

[loco27]

When you follow a band from the begining and the first couple albums attract you, The minute the band alters their style a little everyone is having a fit. I can understand this because the original style is what attracted you in the first place. Not to sound OLD and like a know it all...
I've been traveling around since the mid 70's listening to all kind of bands
play. Trust me , DMB is one of the most talented band out there, every band has good and not so great albums. You kind of have to keep an open mind and take it for what it's worth. There will be more good music from these guys. The same people who are upset, probably go to the shows and are not happy with the set list eigther! Just go listen and enjoy the night!!!
The world don't revolve around just your taste all the time. Believe me there aren't that many bands any more that are as talented as these guys.
I've seen ALOT of bands play. DON'T WORRY!!!

[dmbistheshiznit]

IMO Stand Up isn't as bad as everyone thinks..it is my least favorite of the DMB albums..but I still listen to it and enjoy it. especially songs like American Baby, Louisiana Bayou, and You might Die Trying (<-better live). But as for the new album I have very high hopes. I really do like the new songs and if his songwriting is on an upswing and we could expect half the album to be new songs we've heard live but re-worked and perfected in studio and the other half entirely new and good songs..than this album will kick ass!!

[bibby1044]

IMO Stand Up isn't as bad as everyone thinks..it is my least favorite of the DMB albums..but I still listen to it and enjoy it. especially songs like American Baby, Louisiana Bayou, and You might Die Trying (<-better live). But as for the new album I have very high hopes. I really do like the new songs and if his songwriting is on an upswing and we could expect half the album to be new songs we've heard live but re-worked and perfected in studio and the other half entirely new and good songs..than this album will kick ass!!

Well I enjoy Stand Up but for DMB it is that bad.

[Gladstone]

IMO Stand Up isn't as bad as everyone thinks..it is my least favorite of the DMB albums..but I still listen to it and enjoy it. especially songs like American Baby, Louisiana Bayou, and You might Die Trying (<-better live). But as for the new album I have very high hopes. I really do like the new songs and if his songwriting is on an upswing and we could expect half the album to be new songs we've heard live but re-worked and perfected in studio and the other half entirely new and good songs..than this album will kick ass!!

Yes, yes it is...

If this album doesn't top Stand Up it's pretty much game over for the music lovers.

[DJGeneral]

I think it will be one of their best.

[mja271]

It can't be worse than Stand Up. I don't know whether it will even be good or not, but I refuse to believe that they could put out something worse than Stand Up.

[comerelaxnow]

When you follow a band from the begining and the first couple albums attract you, The minute the band alters their style a little everyone is having a fit. I can understand this because the original style is what attracted you in the first place. Not to sound OLD and like a know it all...
I've been traveling around since the mid 70's listening to all kind of bands
play. Trust me , DMB is one of the most talented band out there, every band has good and not so great albums. You kind of have to keep an open mind and take it for what it's worth. There will be more good music from these guys. The same people who are upset, probably go to the shows and are not happy with the set list eigther! Just go listen and enjoy the night!!!
The world don't revolve around just your taste all the time. Believe me there aren't that many bands any more that are as talented as these guys.
I've seen ALOT of bands play. DON'T WORRY!!!

this is perfect logic that some people just can't grasp.

[MistreatedLewis]

this is perfect logic that some people just can't grasp.

It is good logic.

It doesn't change the fact that SU is as bad an album as has ever been released by any respectable artist, or the fact that it hasn't been worth buying a single ticket to live shows since 2004.

But otherwise, it is good logic. Bands to have their peaks and valleys.

[TGaucho]

uhhhh, probably. Yeah.


that being said, even if it isn't Tits McGonnigal, that doesn't mean that "it's over" for the band, and to those of you who would "walk away" if this album doesn't meet your standards, you're pretty piss-poor fans. Two sub-par albums in a row does not a used-up artist make. Case in point:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Dylan_discography#Studio_albums

take a look between 1978 and 1988. I count no less than 8 sub-par records in that period (that's a whole decade's worth btw . . in a row). Dylan himself admits as much in his autobiography. Was he done? Oh Mercy would beg to differ.

so, ok, DMB is not Dylan. I know. Not only are we talking about a whole band as opposed to an individual, but also that individual is one of the most prolific songwriters in history. Understood. But i picked Dylan because he's the first person to pop in my head that fits the circumstances of my point, which is this: Another less-than-off-the-hizzle album doesn't necessarily equal musical Ragnarok. There are other examples of artists that have had a couple of average records in a row and then come back to put out some of the best stuff of their careers. Clapton and Cash also come to mind immediately, and im confident that i could come up with another 3 or 4 good examples if it wasn't almost 4 in the morning.

[~Crashintome89~]

A studio Shotgun will beat Stand UP all by itself, IMO.

[irishluck314]

It has to!!

[JMcCartyFBI]

My gut instinct is to say yes, but then again, I also thought that there was no way DMB could put out an album worse than Everyday. However, there is evidence this time around it seems that they are actually conscious of the need to make the album good as opposed to simply putting one out. We shall see whether that remains the case, or whether some new producer comes in, wipes the slate clean and gets them distracted with yet another formula that doesn't work for DMB.

[SoMuchToSay_07]

I have to agree that Stand Up wasn't one of their best albums but.....
a couple of those songs sounded great this summer, now that they have been polished up a bit! Bayou, You Might Die Trying American Baby Intro,
I thought they sounded better than I thought at first when I heard the CD.
A polished turd is still a turd. Stand Up was their worst album. They should have spent more time spent in the studio building up those songs to how they are now with better lyrics. BUT that's another discussion for another day.

Back to the topic, I sure hope that this cd is better than Stand Up, I don't see how it can get any worse.

[bound2be]

Yes... but thats very easily accomplished. If this album is even just ok (about Everyday quality), I think DMB needs to just hang it up and call it a day.


I think you hit that pipe a few too many times. I understand that is your opinion and I repsect that but in MY opinion Everyday is one of their best albums. Like I said, MY opinion. As far as better that stand up? I don't think DMB could produce a bad album, I just hope its different than Stand Up. I love hearing the music evolve and change throughout their career, so fun!

[Gladstone]

I think you hit that pipe a few too many times. I understand that is your opinion and I repsect that but in MY opinion Everyday is one of their best albums. Like I said, MY opinion. As far as better that stand up? I don't think DMB could produce a bad album, I just hope its different than Stand Up. I love hearing the music evolve and change throughout their career, so fun!

Your opinion is false. You feel special typing with that font?

[White Rabbit]

I really really hope that this album is amazing just so all you people shut up about your opinions on SU. It's time to stop dwelling on the past and look forward, thats why the SU forum closed, because we need to look on the future and stop dwelling arguing about SU. Some people like it some don't, leave it at that and move on.

[Swizz2007]

I really really hope that this album is amazing just so all you people shut up about your opinions on SU. It's time to stop dwelling on the past and look forward, thats why the SU forum closed, because we need to look on the future and stop dwelling arguing about SU. Some people like it some don't, leave it at that and move on.

So should the people who love UTTAD, Crash, and BTCS stop talking about them and 'dwelling on the past' as well?

[White Rabbit]

So should the people who love UTTAD, Crash, and BTCS stop talking about them and 'dwelling on the past' as well?

Nah you're right I worded it wrong. I guess I'm just saying that all of you guys arguing about SU re sorta being counterproductive to everything because you just talk in circles and you either like or you don't. Nothing you say is going to make someone who either likes or doesn't like the album change they opinion.

[martindcx1e]

yes, i think this will be much better than stand up

[aclark0622]

I believe it could be of Busted Stuff quality...

[dontburnthe_pig]

I think this album has the potential to make a big 4? I really think it will be better than Busted Stuff. Sounds like they're going all out.

[dreamingtree_34]

I think this album has the potential to make a big 4? I really think it will be better than Busted Stuff. Sounds like they're going all out.

yeah i agree . the band realizes that fans percieve them as being at a low point and theres no way there going to release this album until their certain its better than anything theyve put out in the past 8 years

[MistreatedLewis]

yeah i agree . the band realizes that fans percieve them as being at a low point and theres no way there going to release this album until their certain its better than anything theyve put out in the past 8 years

Do the fans percieve them that way? If so, do they realize it?
It boggles my mind, but they get a lot of cheers for Smooth Rider and Bayou and Hunger and ABI...

[bubba40]

I guarantee it will be markedly better.

[BigEyedFerg]

why should a song thats been around for several years be the reason why an album is good?

A lot of people keep saying things like this, but truthfully, DMB has been reforging old material in their studio work for years. Halloween, Pig, Captain, and Grace is Gone (the rift at least) are all examples, and there are more. BTCS is really the only example when a large amount of truly brand-spankin' new material was well-received. DMB quality seems to depend entirely on the deliberate evolution of songs. With Everyday/Stand Up, the evolution simply did not take place. I think working with older material that's 4-7 years old while continuing to rework the more recently road-tested songs will ultimately extend DMB's lifespan as a band, inspire them to write more good music, and imo allow them to focus on the quality of each individual song.

[MPizzle06]

No doubt in my mind that it'll top Stand Up. Should be the best thing since tLWS

[bibby1044]

No doubt in my mind that it'll top Stand Up. Should be the best thing since tLWS

Fonz's blog really got you excited, haha...I cant say I disagree.

[Fisherman]

Come on lets be realistic... How could it POSSIBLY be as bad as Stand Up was?

[born 1991]

I'm pretty sure it'll beat Stand Up, but if it's not I literally see myself using it as a "clay" pidgeon.

[DMBzilla]

Probable Songs:
#27
A Dream So Real
Cornbread
Idea of You
Shotgun

Possible Songs:
#40
Blue Water
Break Free
Butterfly
Can't Stop
Crazy-Easy
Falling Off the Roof
Kill the King
Round and Round
Sister
Sugar Will
Sweet Up & Down

Take the 5 probable songs, pick 3 of the possible songs, and then add 3-4 songs we haven't heard yet, and it already trumps Stand Up.

[n3wyears]

^ SHOTGUN SHOTGUN SHOTGUN
lol

[ride_shotgun3]

guys there should be no discussion weather this album is going to be better then stand up... their taking their time and when their finished stand up wont be in the discussion as this one

[rickyh24]

yes..

[Rockyall107]

i think it will end up being a vast improvement from stand up..it seems they will actually try while recording this album..i think it will edge out busted stuff and be the 4th best album

[ant_marching41]

Probable Songs:
#27
A Dream So Real
Cornbread
Idea of You
Shotgun

Possible Songs:
#40
Blue Water
Break Free
Butterfly
Can't Stop
Crazy-Easy
Falling Off the Roof
Kill the King
Round and Round
Sister
Sugar Will
Sweet Up & Down

Take the 5 probable songs, pick 3 of the possible songs, and then add 3-4 songs we haven't heard yet, and it already trumps Stand Up.

That's actually probable.

i think it will end up being a vast improvement from stand up..it seems they will actually try while recording this album..i think it will edge out busted stuff and be the 4th best album
That pretty much sums it up. We're all hoping that the extra time put into the new album will be worth it.

[DMBzilla]

1. Intro >
2. Cornbread
3. The Idea of You
4. Sweet Up & Down
5. #27
6. Shotgun
7. Can't Stop
8. Blue Water
9. A Dream So Real
10. #40
11. Crazy-Easy (fade out; full band Butterfly outro)

That, for me, beats all but the big three.

[lestat1600]

yes it will, every album they have done to date has topped the previous one. what makes you think that will change?

[manninta]

yes it will, every album they have done to date has topped the previous one. what makes you think that will change?

I hope you are kidding. You just said that UTTAD is their worst album and Stand Up is their best.

[MistreatedLewis]

I hope you are kidding. You just said that UTTAD is their worst album and Stand Up is their best.

:lol :thumbsup best post ever

[MistreatedLewis]

1. Intro >
2. Cornbread
3. The Idea of You
4. Sweet Up & Down
5. #27
6. Shotgun
7. Can't Stop
8. Blue Water
9. A Dream So Real
10. #40
11. Crazy-Easy (fade out; full band Butterfly outro)

That, for me, beats all but the big three.

uh... really?
I count three or four great songs on their tops, a couple of good ones, and some crap.

[MistreatedLewis]

i think it will end up being a vast improvement from stand up..it seems they will actually try while recording this album..i think it will edge out busted stuff and be the 4th best album

edging out Busted Stuff would make it their fifth best album, unless we include tLWS and then it would make it their sixth best ;)

[DMBzilla]

uh... really?
I count three or four great songs on their tops, a couple of good ones, and some crap.

For me, yes. I put every song on there as better than anything on Everyday and for the most part Stand Up as well. Plus, I hate Busted Stuff as an album, and I think this one would be on par with the Lillywhites depending on production value.

[bibby1044]

1. Intro >
2. Cornbread
3. The Idea of You
4. Sweet Up & Down
5. #27
6. Shotgun
7. Can't Stop
8. Blue Water
9. A Dream So Real
10. #40
11. Crazy-Easy (fade out; full band Butterfly outro)

That, for me, beats all but the big three.

Get rid of some of those. Keep Crazy Easy, SUAD, Shotgun and #27 on there. Throw on Sugar Will, Loving Wings and some new ones...then it will definently be the big 4.

[ride_shotgun3]

Get rid of some of those. Keep Crazy Easy, SUAD, Shotgun and #27 on there. Throw on Sugar Will, Loving Wings and some new ones...then it will definently be the big 4.

agreed sugar will is a good song, loving wings is better than a song or two on there with that list were lookin at big 4

[stayorleave83]

I think it will be better. I'm not crazy about ADSR but I have a feeling once I hear the studio version my opinion will change.

[DMBMJ2312]

at first I did not like stand up. I thought it didnt sound like the band. Now it has grown on me, but I do think the new cd will be better.

[MistreatedLewis]

For me, yes. I put every song on there as better than anything on Everyday and for the most part Stand Up as well. Plus, I hate Busted Stuff as an album, and I think this one would be on par with the Lillywhites depending on production value.

Fair enough

[number4ty1]

Honestly, as much as I like some of the Stand Up stuff, I think it will be almost impossible not to top it !

Re-worked Bayou, anyone ?! :lol

[Noremac]

Based on the fact that SUAD, Loving Wings, and Shotgun have been recorded and met with a good response by the band, we're off to a potentially great start. Add #27, Sugar Will, Crazy Easy, ADSR.... We could have a winner on our hands.

[bibby1044]

Based on the fact that SUAD, Loving Wings, and Shotgun have been recorded and met with a good response by the band, we're off to a potentially great start. Add #27, Sugar Will, Crazy Easy, ADSR.... We could have a winner on our hands.
Yes sir. Fuck Cornbread........and Eh hee

[CoffeeJanitor]

1. Intro >
2. Cornbread
3. The Idea of You
4. Sweet Up & Down
5. #27
6. Shotgun
7. Can't Stop
8. Blue Water
9. A Dream So Real
10. #40
11. Crazy-Easy (fade out; full band Butterfly outro)

That, for me, beats all but the big three.I know, I know--There has to be a stinker. But why that stinker?

[kbabbing]

Blue Water Baboon Farm? Where is this coming from? Is this wishing or is there a rumor about this?

I had no idea this had a chance.

[bibby1044]

Blue Water Baboon Farm? Where is this coming from? Is this wishing or is there a rumor about this?

I had no idea this had a chance.
Wishing.

[BigEyedFerg]

I cannot remove the soothing image of Sugar Will opening the album and Loving Wings > Shotgun ending it

That would probably beat out Busted Stuff for me personally.

[Northerntube]

I think Stand Up is a fine album, so I'm not too worried about the next one. Once I hear it, I'll either like it or not. Simple as that.

Until then, this is as productive as discussing whether it's going to rain three Thursdays from now or if it might be sunny.

[steve34]

i almost feel like it has to due to the strength of a few possible songs, namely Loving Wings and Shotgun. Could you imagine Shotgun and something like Smooth Rider on the same album? If they keep Shotgun or LW, I think it marks a return to a more classic DMB sound (which, almost inevitably, means better than Stand Up)

[bibby1044]

I cannot remove the soothing image of Sugar Will opening the album and Loving Wings > Shotgun ending it

That would probably beat out Busted Stuff for me personally.
My image is Crazy Easy opening and the album closing with Sugar Will>Shotgun>Loving Wings...too bad its a one and a million chance.

[Swizz2007]

My image is Crazy Easy opening and the album closing with Sugar Will>Shotgun>Loving Wings...too bad its a one and a million chance.

If that were the case, I think we would now have a Big 4 :thumbsup

[martindcx1e]

i want crazy-easy!

[DMBblake]

pretty hard not to top stand up

[DMBblake]

pretty hard not to top stand up

[Neverknow34]

LLs all over again...

[born 1991]

pretty hard not to top stand up

[mr. testaverde]

1. Intro >
2. Cornbread
3. The Idea of You
4. Sweet Up & Down
5. #27
6. Shotgun
7. Can't Stop
8. Blue Water
9. A Dream So Real
10. #40
11. Crazy-Easy (fade out; full band Butterfly outro)

That, for me, beats all but the big three.

i know thats a 'wishful thinking' list, but blue water? honestly? a song that hasnt been played by the full band in over 10 years you think could possibly be on the new album? that is some crazy talk if you ask me :lol

in regards to the original topic, i think its virtually impossible for this next album to be worse than stand up. the band would actually have to WORK at making an album worse than SU, and if they're going to work that hard to put out a bad album, then i question their motives as a whole :lol