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DerekJTR2
03-17-2008, 10:15 AM
I love the song. Maybe it gets to be a little too much towards the 7 minute mark, just to play I Dream of Jeannie, but what I'm wondering is, is it going to be the same if it shows up on the album? Is it going to have new layers with a chorus and everything? Does anyone want that? I think a repetetive 7 minute album track wouldn't be that great. Maybe it'd be great if it went by way of ABI where it's just a small intro on cd?
Has anyone anywhere said anything about it from the session that was recorded already?
SmoothRider[PL]
03-17-2008, 10:19 AM
I love the song. Maybe it gets to be a little too much towards the 7 minute mark, just to play I Dream of Jeannie, but what I'm wondering is, is it going to be the same if it shows up on the album? Is it going to have new layers with a chorus and everything? Does anyone want that? I think a repetetive 7 minute album track wouldn't be that great. Maybe it'd be great if it went by way of ABI where it's just a small intro on cd?
Has anyone anywhere said anything about it from the session that was recorded already?
And how about Proudest Monkey? Or 1st Shotgun? Loving Wings jam is great and this song or LW > Shotgun is the best way to end a new album.
hughesman62781
03-17-2008, 10:55 AM
this song is awsome imo
dre2142
03-17-2008, 11:18 AM
Stolen Away? I like the repetitiveness of it.
Loving Wings is better though.
DerekJTR2
03-17-2008, 11:27 AM
I love it, I'm just curious if it should have another layer lyrically. Stolen Away and Proudest Monkey are both dynamic in some way but I feel like at the end of Loving Wings we haven't gone anywhere since the beginning, that doesn't have to be a bad thing but do you see Dave shaping it a bit more?
rickyh24
03-17-2008, 11:50 AM
;7229384']And how about Proudest Monkey? Or 1st Shotgun? Loving Wings jam is great and this song or LW > Shotgun is the best way to end a new album.
Nah....
CapnHani06
03-17-2008, 01:05 PM
...i prefer Shotgun>LW :hump
spoot388
03-17-2008, 01:29 PM
I was just listening to Proudest Monkey last night and I remembered what everyone said about them jaming it out at the end of the album. I would not mind LW being on the album if they went PM on it's ass.
Intro>Shotgun>Loving Wings would be a great end, provided its done right.
bradshaw06
03-17-2008, 01:35 PM
shotgun -> loving wings to end it
DerekJTR2
03-17-2008, 01:57 PM
There's too much we don't know as far as new songs go to say that it is how they should end the album, we aren't DMB. It just sucks that this is all we have to talk about.argggg
razmataz
03-17-2008, 02:49 PM
Heard its debut in '02, as well as this year in G-Ville and WPB.
It's evolved into something incredible. The jam at the end has become so simple and refreshing...can't get enough of it.
This little clip makes me really hope that it sticks around for the album.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LB3RySKhjFk
(Love that guy's girlish laugh at :22)
bubba40
03-17-2008, 04:34 PM
GREAT song. Roi, Rashawn, and Carter took it to another level in '07. I would LOVE to see this on the new album.
MistreatedLewis
03-17-2008, 04:36 PM
GREAT song. Roi, Rashawn, and Carter took it to another level in '07. I would LOVE to see this on the new album.
It's a nice little song with a monster outro.
bibby1044
03-17-2008, 04:53 PM
GREAT song. Roi, Rashawn, and Carter took it to another level in '07. I would LOVE to see this on the new album.
Exactly....and now they have Tim to just be right there with them and make it even more amazing.
ShotgunDMB
03-17-2008, 05:14 PM
Listening to the Gorge 02 version right now. Good little song. Think it'd be better staying a live song, but wouldn't mind it in the studio if there are some great new songs.
BigEyedFerg
03-17-2008, 05:21 PM
It's one of the few songs where I think Rashawn blends in perfectly with the other members of the band --- on most other songs I feel he sounds sort of forced and intrusive.
I personally would cream myself if Loving Wings showed up on the new album
DerekJTR2
03-17-2008, 05:54 PM
It's one of the few songs where I think Rashawn blends in perfectly with the other members of the band --- on most other songs I feel he sounds sort of forced and intrusive.
I personally would cream myself if Loving Wings showed up on the new album
Agreed...on the creaming.
Personally I think Rashawn fits great. I gotta say, I forget which live release it is, maybe I just downloaded it, but Rashawn was featured during Anyone Seen the Bridge and it was fucking amazing
dmb5570
03-17-2008, 07:28 PM
i absolutely love this song. it would be really amazing as a studio track as long as they did it right. the only thing that bothers me is in the earlier parts of the song when its more quiet before the jam, i just dont like the sound butch adds on the keyboard, it would be a part better played by roi on the sax, then i would really go nuts for it, and a timmy guitar part, just somethign simple, would be real nice.
ant_marching41
03-17-2008, 07:39 PM
If it makes the album, It's gotta have I Dream of Jeanie, and they gotta let Carter go nuts on the outro.
I'd love to have this on the album. Moreso than SUAD, ADSR, and any other unreleased material thats been brought up recently.
hoke2007
03-17-2008, 07:46 PM
I really wanna see this song (as well as SUAD) make the new album. Loving Wings is such a beautiful song...
ant_marching41
03-17-2008, 07:54 PM
If it makes the album, It's gotta have I Dream of Jeanie, and they gotta let Carter go nuts on the outro.
I'd love to have this on the album. Moreso than SUAD, ADSR, and any other unreleased material thats been brought up recently.
Oh, and how can i forget...
A soprano sax solo from Roi that rivals his Proudest Monkey solo.
twostepper1213
03-20-2008, 02:38 AM
I have mixed feelings on the I Dream of Jeannie outro. I like it, but I think that they drag it on too long. I'd rather just have solos from Roi and/or Rashawn.
number4ty1
03-20-2008, 07:09 AM
It's a nice little song with a monster outro.
My thoughts exactly.
I find it (this is the first time i'm going to use this word) mesmerising !
BlueWater13
03-21-2008, 01:25 PM
I would like them to try a small orchestra playing in the background for this song. It could be a nice touch.
If you want to hear a good Loving Wings i would suggest 12-14-02
Malaguy
03-21-2008, 01:36 PM
i dunno, just not a fan, and never have been. i think it's inextricably linked with where are you going in my brain, and since that song is terrible, it's hard to seperate them.
BigEyedFerg
03-21-2008, 03:34 PM
^ :thumbsdow
Loving Wings makes WAYG look like a bag of stick and stones
:freak groan lame lyric reference
PantalaNagaMan
03-21-2008, 03:38 PM
i dunno, just not a fan, and never have been. i think it's inextricably linked with where are you going in my brain, and since that song is terrible, it's hard to seperate them.
Besides childish type writing in some lines in WAYG - Where Are You Going is one of the best musically written songs the band has wrote the past 6-8 years (which isn't saying much, really.)
Notice how the band has not linked Loving Wings with WAYG in the past two years, making it its own song - and doing what it wants with it. So get off your horse, and start appreciating a piece of good music for what it is.
:)
dmb_guitar_play
03-21-2008, 06:46 PM
Besides childish type writing in some lines in WAYG - Where Are You Going is one of the best musically written songs the band has wrote the past 6-8 years (which isn't saying much, really.)
Notice how the band has not linked Loving Wings with WAYG in the past two years, making it its own song - and doing what it wants with it. So get off your horse, and start appreciating a piece of good music for what it is.
:)
What? They did in Gainesville. Loving Wings was one of my favorite songs of that show actually...right up there with Seek Up and Grey Street. They truly brought it on that song that night...Butch was even killing on the jam...in a great way
colegibson
03-21-2008, 06:49 PM
I love this song. It'd be a great PM-esque closer to an album.
DirtyDeeds449
03-21-2008, 07:00 PM
Love this song.
sweetupandaway
03-21-2008, 07:28 PM
Everyone always talks about this song closing the album. WTF not open the album with this? I think it'd be better than Busted Stuff opening. Use your mind. I bet the band could come up with other songs to end with the album than this. (If Loving Wings even makes it)
Evenone thinks this or Shotgun has to end the album. Thats cool. For me, I'd rather hear LW or Shotgun at track 6 or 8 then hear this at the end. DMB is capable of doing so much more. This band is going to rake us this year. Just let them do what they do and we may get a great studio release.
jas230314
03-22-2008, 12:26 AM
totally agree with you ^^ people think oh well shotgun is great, therefore it must end the album! NO! These guys know what they are doing.. they may have come up with the next Stone or Dreaming Tree. Shotgun could be the worst song on the album, we have no idea!
What we should be discussing is not fantasy set lists, but rather what we want this album to represent. As a whole.
Stand Up was a lackluster attempt at a political album (oddly set with some love songs) which failed. The songs were fine, but as an album, it didnt stand for anything. I think this new album should be about love and the pain associated with it...
Loving Wings would be a terrific opener, because it is a simple love song. It ignores the hardships and sadness that come with it. Shotgun, on the other end of the spectrum, is love that has taken (Dave) so far as to end his life.
The album could be a progression from sweet/young love (Sweet up and down) all the way to shotgun... followed with a reprise that could either represent death or take teh album full circle and have a loving wings type thing (round and round even)
This album has so much potential
DerekJTR2
03-22-2008, 08:18 AM
Now that I think about it, Loving Wings into Shotgun would be a phenomenal OPENING to an album. Lots of build up, shotgun intro, and then the album really starts with the first crash of the band together. I'd love that.
I like Dreamgirl opening. TBOWA is great, we get right into the action, same with So Much To Say. PNP-Rapunzel is just perfect. Busted Stuff is a little lackluster, from an opening standpoint and I Did It...well. You know.
Opening with a long intro like LW into Shotgun would show some discipline and really reflect their talent and patience and character as a band and what they are really all about.
Just a cool idea. I don't want everyone to gripe about how the other songs may or may not live up to it after it opens the album or whatever. They may have 12 better openers or 12 better songs, we ain't them, so we don't know. Neither could show up on the album. But, by itself, its a cool idea.
acost3
03-22-2008, 03:34 PM
...i prefer Shotgun>LW :hump
I like your style
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