New Studio Footage

[mandelko1]

Just saw this on the warehouse site...watch and discuss!

Check out the first 2008 glimpse of Dave Matthews Band inside the studio! Dave Matthews Band is currently working in the studio with producer Rob Cavallo (Green Day, My Chemical Romance, Alanis Morissette). Guitarist and longtime friend Tim Reynolds has joined the band in the studio for the first time since 1998’s Before These Crowded Streets. The video, featuring a message from Dave, is being featured exclusively on iLike. To watch the video, iLike may be accessed in three ways: through Facebook, through iLike, and through the iTunes iLike sidebar

[GLR87]

awesome watching right now

[trpnbillie11]

At least in that clip they look excited.


And judging from the music in the clip, they should be.

[darkfwank]

From what I heard. Songs good and it is awesome they seem excited.

[hyoung41]

The clip at the beginning just gave me a ton of hope for this album! :multi

[Swizz2007]

Didn't really show much to get excited about. But I'm still very much excited about the album anyway, so it doesn't matter.

[dmbatl07]

Did he compare Idea of You to Two Step?

[laxguy88]

That was Shotgun at the end correct

[Jake]

Ilike!?! Didn't see that coming!

[~Crashintome89~]

Jake, you're blind. Someone came around here and stated something about iLike earlier today.

I guess you missed it.

[warehouseguy]

Thanks for the heads up

What are your thoughts so far, Jake?

[Jake]

Thanks for the heads up

What are your thoughts so far, Jake?



they still have a long way to go, but it's getting there!

[awsomepath]

That was Shotgun at the end correct

Heard that too:thumbsup :thumbsup

[warehouseguy]

they still have a long way to go, but it's getting there!

i think it's at least promising compared to the stand up previews...

[awsomepath]

I don't see Butch or Rashawn

[denwau]

Ilike!?! Didn't see that coming!

Dear God,

Please let me be this cool some day. But let it be in a bigger pond.

Amen.

[awsomepath]

I don't recognize the song in the opening credit

[Point202]

I'm so excited - don't know what to say! The tiny little teases of music sound great! The fact that they have cover art of sorts ready to go makes me think they'll be closer to album release than we think.

[DerekJTR2]

MY HEART IS PUMPING AND I WANNA HIT THINGS!

I'm so happy. That was plenty for now.

That Shotty sound live? I think it was.

[DerekJTR2]

HOLD THE PHONE

The opening song sound faintly like Sugar Will to anyone.........?

Dave is talking and I hear "I don't wanna leave" in the back. hmm

I'm so happy.
Sounds like layers and genius and BTCS and I can't wait

[dontburnthe_pig]

I like how Cavallo appears to be just listening and taking in all of DMB's ideas. This could be an epic record.

[bibby1044]

That was Shotgun at the end correct
Im pretty sure that was from the summer tour sampler though, too me it did not sound studio at all.


That clip of the song in the beginning sounds fantastic, I cant even hold back my excitement anymore.

[hobbesthecat]

That was Shotgun at the end correct
SG studio THANK GOD


wooooooooooooooo

[bibby1044]

MY HEART IS PUMPING AND I WANNA HIT THINGS!

I'm so happy. That was plenty for now.

That Shotty sound live? I think it was.
:thumbsup Definently was.

But that first song they have on their, wow. It sounds dark and has a african vibe to it.

[kyledmb]

oh this looks like a very positive direction!!!

[kjam1988]

I like how Cavallo appears to be just listening and taking in all of DMB's ideas. This could be an epic record.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:bounce

[bibby1044]

oh this looks like a very positive direction!!!
I think since you just said this, makes me even more excited.

You have to admit that clip of that one song is some good shit.

[PNP15]

very beginning is totally sugar will

[coldengrey12]

My nipples are hardening. TMI?

[hobbesthecat]

i dunno about that.........

[ben1415]

Dave! Get away from the producer and look to Tim instead!

[DerekJTR2]

It sounds like S Will only much much better.

[DerekJTR2]

Dave! Get away from the producer and look to Tim instead!

My man Cavallo is just chillin watching in amazement. I AM ALL FOR THAT. Hellllll yea. :D:D:D:D:hump:hump:hump:hump

[MPizzle06]

This video is GREAT, even though it's so short.

Seriously think about it: only about 2 weeks until we get to hopefully hear some new songs at the D&T show in Seattle.

Very Very exciting!

[bibby1044]

This video is GREAT, even though it's so short.

Seriously think about it: only about 2 weeks until we get to hopefully hear some new songs at the D&T show in Seattle.

Very Very exciting!
Truth.


No way am I going to sleep after hearing those kick ass clips.

[crushme5]

for some reason, when i click on the video, nothing plays. i press the "play" button and all i get is a black screen which shows nothing. i'm trying to access it through facebook since my content filter blocks the ilike website. any ideas? or, does anyone have the video in another format or link i could access?

[bibby1044]

for some reason, when i click on the video, nothing plays. i press the "play" button and all i get is a black screen which shows nothing. i'm trying to access it through facebook since my content filter blocks the ilike website. any ideas? or, does anyone have the video in another format or link i could access?
Myspace, and its up on youtube as well.

[crushme5]

Myspace, and its up on youtube as well.


unfortunately, my content filter also blocks myspace and youtube. it kind of sucks b/c i really want to watch this video. thanks for the help though. i appreciate it

[0n3sw33tw0rld]

very, very exciting!!!! in a good way...

and yet pathetic in the way that this is the most excitement i have had so far this yea.. haha

[BigEyedFerg]

GOOD GOD...the bit of opening music was pure orgasmic ape-shit Roi. I think I just shat myself. Does certainly have a Sugar Will ring to it...


I could be gravely mistaken, but the song after the short intro that's running in the background.... sounds like it could easily bust into the epic SBC soundcheck chorus

[willthethrill]

Yea, definitely Shotgun live from the Sampler. But damn, that was a nice little teaser at the beginning. Man, I hope we get some new songs on the tour.

[eatdrink&B]

unfortunately, my content filter also blocks myspace and youtube. it kind of sucks b/c i really want to watch this video. thanks for the help though. i appreciate it

I converted it to an .flv file:
hxxp://www.sendspace.com/file/eu3uvo

you should be able to watch it with VLC player
(if you don't have it, you can download it free from www.videolan.org (http://www.videolan.org))

p.s. are you in jail?

jk :)

[DMBZeppelin]

I converted it to an .flv file:
hxxp://www.sendspace.com/file/eu3uvo

you should be able to watch it with VLC player
(if you don't have it, you can download it free from www.videolan.org (http://www.videolan.org))

p.s. are you in jail?

jk :)
Can you convert this to just audio? Or tell me how? I want to see if I can do something with the audio from this.

[eatdrink&B]

Can you convert this to just audio? Or tell me how? I want to see if I can do something with the audio from this.

I'm sure there's a way to convert it, but I don't have a program to do it. Try one of these, maybe?
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-44,GGLJ:en&q=convert+%2eflv+to+%2emp3

[HolyCow]

Good Lord I'm excited. Dave says something like "That's why I was comparing it to the way Two Step is.... it's got so many sections..."

That's awesome!

[dmb_guitar_play]

I like how it shows everybody sitting around in a circle talking about how to improve the songs, what they like about them, etc. They are working instead of sitting around drinking wine. :thumbsup

[DMBZeppelin]

I'm sure there's a way to convert it, but I don't have a program to do it. Try one of these, maybe?
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-44,GGLJ:en&q=convert+%2eflv+to+%2emp3
Thanks, but I got celebi23 over on TDC to do the dirty work for me. Because I know some people were saying "that is Sugar Will, and that's a new Shotgun intro" ect. while I thought it was all the same song. Again thanks to celebi23 of TDC for doing this for me, but here's the end result:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/crzpnv

[dvalukis]

prepare yourselves for greatness. their scratch tracks in the background even sound awsome.

[eatdrink&B]

Thanks, but I got celebi23 over on TDC to do the dirty work for me. Because I know some people were saying "that is Sugar Will, and that's a new Shotgun intro" ect. while I thought it was all the same song. Again thanks to celebi23 of TDC for doing this for me, but here's the end result:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/crzpnv

Thanks, I also saw that over at TDC :)

[markus_europe]

I miss Batson. They seem way too busy. :D

No really, great stuff I can't wait.

[Peppermill]

If I were guessing, I'd say that all the music we're hearing from the studio clip is takes from shotgun...intro, maybe a new chorus or something...but it all just sounds like shotgun.

[DMBZeppelin]

If I were guessing, I'd say that all the music we're hearing from the studio clip is takes from shotgun...intro, maybe a new chorus or something...but it all just sounds like shotgun.
It's 100% for sure, not all Shotgun. Only the end is, the whole clip of them actually in the studio is working on a new song. I posted the audio, but reordered a page back: http://www.sendspace.com/file/crzpnv it's reordered in the way I think the song is suppose to go. I could be wrong, but either way it's not Shotgun.

[RobbtheRevelatr]

Good Lord I'm excited. Dave says something like "That's why I was comparing it to the way Two Step is.... it's got so many sections..."

That's awesome!

Dave gets excited no matter what, so after Stand Up I'm not putting a lot of stock in what he says. I reserve judgement for when I hear the songs themselves.

And I did like that opening snippit.. short as it was.

[DMBZeppelin]

Dave gets excited no matter what, so after Stand Up I'm not putting a lot of stock in what he says. I reserve judgement for when I hear the songs themselves.

And I did like that opening snippit.. short as it was.
Keep in mind, that a lot of Dave's picks for Stand Up didn't make the final cut.

[chrisjames]

is the video on myspace the same as in the warehouse?! if not, can i have some ones password LOL, i NEED to see that!

[DMBZeppelin]

is the video on myspace the same as in the warehouse?! if not, can i have some ones password LOL, i NEED to see that!
The only difference between the regular one and the Warehouse one is Cavallo's head has been photoshopped out, in favor of an over sized Lillywhite one.

[RobbtheRevelatr]

Keep in mind, that a lot of Dave's picks for Stand Up didn't make the final cut.

Do you really believe that Dave's picks for SU would be substantially better than what we got on the album? I doubt it.... and it didn't stop him from praising and getting excited about the rest of it.

Again, I've got a lot of hope for this album... a lot. But I'm still holding out on praising the band until I hear something definitive.... not just tiny little clips that don't amount to a song yet.

[Beebz]

The clip in the beginning is defintely not Sugar Will. It's easy to tell because this new song actually sounds good.

This is certainly encouraging.

[crushme5]

I converted it to an .flv file:
hxxp://www.sendspace.com/file/eu3uvo

you should be able to watch it with VLC player
(if you don't have it, you can download it free from www.videolan.org (http://www.videolan.org))

p.s. are you in jail?

jk :)

haha! no, not in a jail. a bunch of my friends and i have installed this christian content filter called besafe online. it protects us and ultimately our families from stuff we shouldn't be accessing online like porn and chat sites. unfortunately, it does block a lot of file sharing sites like the above mentioned. thanks for the link though. i'm excited to finally watch this video. the anticipation is killing me.

[BigEyedFerg]

^Whether or not it IS Sugar Will is very unclear... but I would definitely say it sounds a lot like Sugar Will. Almost like a Sugar Will/American Baby/The Stone lovechild. Seems to be solid layering already too...cannot wait for Hershey

:multi

[bibby1044]

^The song that Dave & Roi talk about pace with, reminds me or a Bartender, Last Stop child, given its not fair to even say that as of yet, it just gives me that dark african vibe with alittle Bartender in there.

[BigEyedFerg]

^Gotta admit, though, the plucking riff sounds a good bit like American Baby + Sugar Will to me. I definitely think just from this little tease alone we can see the potential for pwnage. Imagine if all the new songs have this same potential. Sounds very fresh already, which is a blessing

:monkey

[AFurth]

fucking cool. this talk about sections gets me excited. stand up didn't have many sections.

hopefully this album is a little less straightforward.

hopefully also he puts that stupid little guitar down except for shotgun and ioy haha.

[LowEnd_Theory]

I like that stupid little guitar.

[chrisjames]

It's 100% for sure, not all Shotgun. Only the end is, the whole clip of them actually in the studio is working on a new song. I posted the audio, but reordered a page back: http://www.sendspace.com/file/crzpnv it's reordered in the way I think the song is suppose to go. I could be wrong, but either way it's not Shotgun.

I just listened to your version and it sounds accurate. Whatever it is, its more DMB candy to my soul :)

[kyledmb]

^The song that Dave & Roi talk about pace with, reminds me or a Bartender, Last Stop child, given its not fair to even say that as of yet, it just gives me that dark african vibe with alittle Bartender in there.

yeah i see what you are saying, and i like it! :thumbsup

[kyledmb]

that first clip sounds like something off of Crash and BTCS...kind of like those little 30 second jams in between songs on BTCS.

Very good to hear roi going nutso though!

[BigEyedFerg]

fucking cool. this talk about
hopefully also he puts that stupid little guitar down except for shotgun and ioy haha.

I have a feeling "that stupid little guitar" is the best chance we have on this album for truly epic new DMB songs. Such a refreshing sound

Whoever pieced the teaser music together into mp3 format, thank you! I've been listening to it on repeat for a while now and it's getting me through the day at work!!

:ggoat :hump

[MiniRay]

This is awesome. They seem to be working really hard, and that clip in the beginning is very good

[DerekJTR2]

I can't get over how cool it sounds. It's my favorite DMB song :)

I just rewatched the Stand Up videos. I really think Batson just did not fit the band and all, and I can't really fault him for how he worked but when Dave says they haven't worked hard on the songs, they are just pumping them out, I think it was just a style they tried and it just didn't fit them. I'm sure they look back know and see how it could have been different but I wouldn't say they lost themselves on Stand Up, I just think Batson was wrong.

I think we hit the jackpot now.

[BigEyedFerg]

I can't get over how cool it sounds. It's my favorite DMB song :)


:ugh

We've heard like 15 seconds of it

[DerekJTR2]

:ugh

We've heard like 15 seconds of it

Which means 1. it's not a song yet and 2. i would have to smoke crack for it to be actually my favorite song.

It's called excitement.

I don't smoke crack.

YES!:):)

[fallbackagain40]

Where can I find the original Stand Up videos that used to be on that newstudioalbum website? I've seen the ones on youtube but there used to be a few more

[HolyCow]

Do you really believe that Dave's picks for SU would be substantially better than what we got on the album? I doubt it.... and it didn't stop him from praising and getting excited about the rest of it.

Again, I've got a lot of hope for this album... a lot. But I'm still holding out on praising the band until I hear something definitive.... not just tiny little clips that don't amount to a song yet.Yes. Absolutely. Dave brought in Trey for Sugar Will, Dave wanted Joyride, Dave wanted a lot of things that didn't happen. But he backed off because they majority of the band didn't want them.

What did you expect him to say? "Well, we didn't make this thing the way I wanted and I hate it. But here it is."

[mikepalmer2005]

hearing all this about the video has made my good day even better. i cant to get home and actually watch it!!!

[mikepalmer2005]

i got lucky and found someone with headphones and listened to the clip. i dont even know what to say about it! ive got nothing but good things to say!

[Rockyall107]

it definitley sounds awesome that lick dave is playing is great

[bubba40]

I believe Dave and Stefan wrote things together on the guitar for some songs on BTCS, such as Dreaming Tree. It appears that's happening in the video.

[AFurth]

This is awesome. They seem to be working really hard, and that clip in the beginning is very good

I agree. Them all sitting in a room bouncing ideas off one another just seems like something that didn't happen as much with Batson. The songs were too one-instrument-hook oriented...

[BigEyedFerg]

Not to overdo it on the BTCS/current session comparisons, but the energy evident in this new video is very much akin to the energy you see in this BTCS promo, although perhaps much more loose and in a much earlier stage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcmFn6Emvpc

[kyledmb]

I believe Dave and Stefan wrote things together on the guitar for some songs on BTCS, such as Dreaming Tree. It appears that's happening in the video.

:thumbsup :thumbsup

that's true. btcs was dave and stefan sitting there building the songs together.

you see this in the btcs promo video, you see this in the new litho video. good catch.

very high hopes now!

[yanks7533]

i love how roi and stefan are leaders in this process, it almost seems stefan is a creative leader while roi is the older figure kinda being a producer type guy....people knock on stefan alot but i like to see him taking over a bit...that sound in th ebackground is weird it sounds like two stpe and they even mention two step...interesting

[bibby1044]

I have a feeling "that stupid little guitar" is the best chance we have on this album for truly epic new DMB songs. Such a refreshing sound

Whoever pieced the teaser music together into mp3 format, thank you! I've been listening to it on repeat for a while now and it's getting me through the day at work!!

:ggoat :hump
Thats the best part about this whole video. We got 2 clips that have a fresh new sound too them but its still in the style of the band that we all love. The second clip blows my mind, even though its about 15 seconds, I guess I wasnt expecting that good.

[dmbfan4ever]

Thats the best part about this whole video. We got 2 clips that have a fresh new sound too them but its still in the style of the band that we all love. The second clip blows my mind, even though its about 15 seconds, I guess I wasnt expecting that good.
2 clips?

[cherone21]

I am fresh off a little wine, but what I hear is dark. Anyone else hear how dark that sounds? Should I say is anyone exited about how dark it sounds?

[BigEyedFerg]

We got 2 clips

Yeah, I think we only got one new song clip, and the Shotty was from the Summer Sampler.

[dmbfan4ever]

Yeah, I think we only got one new song clip, and the Shotty was from the Summer Sampler.
Yeah, I knew that..I thought you were referring or alluding to a new Video from the sessions. Cool cool.

[jimmea217]

if they could now only just treat stand up like they did Everyday this past tour, that'd be fantastic... ya know, Bayou or YMDT spread out sparatically and not every night and THAT's IT like with Everyday being kinda spread with hardly anything else... that's if the new album lives to what we're hyping it up to be already, which I think is VERY POSSIBLE.

[Peppermill]

It's 100% for sure, not all Shotgun. Only the end is, the whole clip of them actually in the studio is working on a new song. I posted the audio, but reordered a page back: http://www.sendspace.com/file/crzpnv it's reordered in the way I think the song is suppose to go. I could be wrong, but either way it's not Shotgun.

I don't know. I'm just not sold on the fact that it's not 100% Shotgun yet. Yes, the clip does sound different from what we know as Shotgun, but after listening to it several times and listening to Shotgun a few times, the music in the clip feels like it's in the same breath as Shotgun. The way Roi refers to the song saying "it needs a pace, but I like it, I like that better than the way we've been practicing/playing it" dave talking about the different sections, stefan speaking about what he's playing as an intro leading into something built around chords, but starting out with a lot a space to build up with. This is all just speculation though. I think it could possibly be another song completely. I would be disappointed if it were. I think the band does need to re-work Shotgun. I love the song, it's good music, but I never felt like it was complete or set in stone. I just hope that if they are talking about a song needing more sections, comparing it to two step...God I hope they are talking about Shotgun! Again, not bashing the song at all...just hoping the band feels it needs a little more tweaking too.

[kingchrisII]

im starting to think this is all shotgun now too. the beginning 6 seconds sounds like a jam that could be used perfectly with shotgun, the following beats sounds like an intro, followed by a between verse, all topped up with the beat we know from shotgun.... maybe its not all shotgun but everything played sounds like it could fit together, whether or not it does, we will see. (if it is, shotgun soudns way better than it ever has)

[ravens24]

DMBZeppelin...awesome clip you just put together there and it sounds very accurate! I like!

[bibby1044]

Yeah, I think we only got one new song clip, and the Shotty was from the Summer Sampler.
Yeah well whether its one song or not I was talking about the opening clip, then the one Dave and Roi talk about.

[thestand]

It finally hit me what the song sounds like: Minarets & While My Guitar Gently Weeps. Now, I'm obviously not comparing it to either (I'm not that hyperbole-prone), but the vocal arrangement just makes me think of WMGJW.

EDIT: At the :21 mark is where it's clearest.

[tyler1389]

Honestly, I'm not sure that really told me anything... other than what we already knew: they are working on an album with Tim Reynolds

[BigEyedFerg]

I strongly doubt the music in the video is a reworking of shotgun... just my opinion though. If they are indeed putting that much work into a song that has already evolved for 2 summers, then hell yes, we're in for a classic album I think. With that being said, I think Shotgun assumed a more or less polished form in 07. I doubt we see much change.

[NumberForTOne]

I don't know. I'm just not sold on the fact that it's not 100% Shotgun yet. Yes, the clip does sound different from what we know as Shotgun, but after listening to it several times and listening to Shotgun a few times, the music in the clip feels like it's in the same breath as Shotgun. The way Roi refers to the song saying "it needs a pace, but I like it, I like that better than the way we've been practicing/playing it" dave talking about the different sections, stefan speaking about what he's playing as an intro leading into something built around chords, but starting out with a lot a space to build up with. This is all just speculation though. I think it could possibly be another song completely. I would be disappointed if it were. I think the band does need to re-work Shotgun. I love the song, it's good music, but I never felt like it was complete or set in stone. I just hope that if they are talking about a song needing more sections, comparing it to two step...God I hope they are talking about Shotgun! Again, not bashing the song at all...just hoping the band feels it needs a little more tweaking too.

I think this is all good ideas. If you listen...this is all in the same key. And I also get a stone vibe from this...very hyped from this short but sweet little clip.

[Rockyall107]

Its Not Shotgun

[Tomriddle]

Wait, how does one access this?

[chr35919]

Wait, how does one access this?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQWXMWC4e08

[FunkyTeaParty41]

Heres another observation about the Sugar Will "ish" Shotty jam at the beginning.

Look back to the Shoreline Amphitheatre show in 07. Dave did a "Sugar Will tease" before A Dream So Real. The key of the Sugar tease IS indeed the same key as this little jam we here in the new clip, though it is also the same key as A Dream So Real (maybe to help Dave sing in the right key because he has to sing early in the song)

Maybe Dave was just teasing Sugar Will in a higher key to stun fans and to help him start the song.

Maybe he was teasing this "new Shotgun jam" ?

or Maybe he was just teasing this new unheard jam.

Of course, the tease sounded like Sugar. But it does sound like the short audio clip in the video.

Hmmmmmmmmmm.
This new album will be interested. I'm excited

:multi :bounce

__________________________________________________ _____

dMb

9.15.06- FMB Amphitheatre- Tinley Park, IL
7.8.07- Toyota Park- Bridgeview, IL
8.17.07- Deer Creek- Noblesville, IN
8.18.07- Deer Creek- Noblesville, IN (Met Dave)
6.6.08- Toyota Park- Bridgeview, IL
7.11.08- Cruzan Amp.- West Palm Beach, FL
7.12.08- Cruzan Amp.- West Palm Beach, FL
7.25.08- Deer Creek- Noblesville, IN
7.26.08- Deer Creek- Noblesville, IN
8.9.08- Alpine Valley- East Troy, WI
8.10.08- Alpine Valley- East Troy, WI

[FunkyTeaParty41]

**Interesting

[marco j]

That's the jam fom Sugarwill at the begining!:monkey :monkey :monkey

...and Tim sitting in the circle.:hump


:D

[Lynchmobb41]

That's the jam fom Sugarwill at the begining!:monkey :monkey :monkey

...and Tim sitting in the circle.:hump


:D
That jam in the very beginning sounds like the end of Sugar Will for sure.
The song there working on sonds unbelievably awesome, and The lyrics sound like the warehouse intro from Piedmont. Listen: You can hear "I am the several times and I made out the word "ground" Maybe I'm looking to far into it but give it a listen several times. Those Lyrics were badass and if you open the album with this song......It will be promising:D

[Colin]

The opening song sound faintly like Sugar Will to anyone.........?

I thought so too.

[Colin]

I can't believe more people aren't talking about the lack of Butch and Rashawn in the video. Is their time with DMB done? Will they tour but not be in the studio? Did they just happen to not be in the room at these specific times?

[dre2142]

Im excited

[marco j]

I'm almost positive now that the song in the very very begining is the jam in Sugarwill.



That makes me very VERY VERY HAPPY!!!!

Guys, please put these on the album....

Crazy Easy
Sugarwill
Shotgun
Loving Wings

[thestand]

I can't believe more people aren't talking about the lack of Butch and Rashawn in the video. Is their time with DMB done? Will they tour but not be in the studio? Did they just happen to not be in the room at these specific times?They've both been in the studio numerous times.

[thestand]

All of the music in that video that is not Shotgun at the end is the same song, I'm nearly positive. It does fit together. Meaning, I'd venture to say there's no Sugar Will in there. There's a good chance that rhythm was cannibalized from Sugar Will.

Just my guess.

[thestand]

I just made this post on TDC, and I don't feel like rewriting it for this board, so I'm just going to copy it. But take it in that context.

I'm just kind of thinking out loud here, but...

That riff at the beginning of the video that Dave plays does somewhat resemble Sugar Will, though the rest of the band isn't playing Sugar Will. And Dave did tease that riff at the end of the tour. Which makes me wonder: was that a Sugar Will tease in California? Or was it a tease of this new song, that cannibalized Sugar Will's riff? I mean, they started writing right off of the tour, or so it seems. So having ideas of new songs at the last venue of a tour isn't ridiculous, and if this song was already in the planning stages, maybe Dave strummed this song's riff (Sugar Will's old riff) during a moment between songs.

I know they aren't exactly the same, but just something I was thinking of earlier.

[Swizz2007]

Please don't kill Sugar Will Dave :(

[kjam1988]

I wouldn't be surprised if Dave was just embarrassed by the lyrics of Sugar Will and decided to turn into an entirely different song. Personally I don't mind the lyrics, but for some reason I can imagine Dave cringing at them.

[bibby1044]

Please don't kill Sugar Will Dave :(
Judging by how it sounds when Roi and Dave talk about it, I could careless if he kills it cause the song sounds badass.

[Dramageek]

I wouldn't be surprised if Dave was just embarrassed by the lyrics of Sugar Will and decided to turn into an entirely different song. Personally I don't mind the lyrics, but for some reason I can imagine Dave cringing at them.

I don't entirely disagree with you, but...

"Though it ain't
Poison
Sugar will
Kill you
Too much of a good thing
Maybe not so sweet."

Those aren't the best he's ever written, but, if he cringes at those, how on God's green Earth did he not cringe at:

"I would dig a hole all the way to China
Unless of course I was there
Then I'd dig my way home."

I hope he cringes at some lyrics (Sugar Will's or any song's) during these sessions so we don't get another verse like that.

[Caveat Emperor]

Please don't kill Sugar Will Dave :(

If we get a new #41 out of the deal, I have no problem with Sugar Will becoming the new 41 Police.

I honestly don't care where the song at the beginning evolved from -- I love where it is going and want to hear more.

[DreamingDave]

Did anyone catch that when there all taking right before Dave says something about it being like Two Step he hums or sings out loud the notes in the very first intro piece to the video. It is clearly the same song. So there are two pieces, Shotgun, and the song they play 5 seconds off and talk about for the rest of the video.

[NumberForTOne]

I'm listening to shotgun right now (6/10/06) and they could definitely use incorporate a minor section, like what they were riffing on in the clip. And as a side-note, I do see what the hype is all about with the 6/10 version. Haven't listened to it in a while, and am definitely in love w/it.

[bubba40]

That's the jam fom Sugarwill at the begining!:monkey :monkey :monkey

...and Tim sitting in the circle.:hump


:D

God I hope so...

I'm almost positive now that the song in the very very begining is the jam in Sugarwill.



That makes me very VERY VERY HAPPY!!!!

Guys, please put these on the album....

Crazy Easy
Sugarwill
Shotgun
Loving Wings

:thumbsup :multi :thumbsup

[bibby1044]

I seriously have no idea why people think this is Shotgun, its not even close.

Its all one new song, possibly a form of Sugarwill if any, definently not Shotgun though.

[dre2142]

I seriously have no idea why people think this is Shotgun, its not even close.

Its all one new song, possibly a form of Sugarwill if any, definently not Shotgun though.

Opening riff sounds like a shotgun feel though )(opening riff of dmbzeppelins mix)

[ant_marching41]

I can't believe more people aren't talking about the lack of Butch and Rashawn in the video. Is their time with DMB done? Will they tour but not be in the studio? Did they just happen to not be in the room at these specific times?
They like to market to us Ants.

[dre2142]

I can't believe more people aren't talking about the lack of Butch and Rashawn in the video. Is their time with DMB done? Will they tour but not be in the studio? Did they just happen to not be in the room at these specific times?

Yes, they are all joined at the hip and are together 100% of the time. Butch had to go take a piss, and Rashawn went out to get a burger.

[ant_marching41]

Yes, they are all joined at the hip and are together 100% of the time. Butch had to go take a shit (or scat solo as he likes to call it), and Rashawn went out to find a small child to feast upon.
Fixed.

[dre2142]

Fixed.

:thumbsup:thumbsup




Just watched the Standup Studio vids.....

Stefan.....boy does he crack me up. Thank god hes a good bassist, haha

[ant_marching41]

^ Hah. True that.

[Branty]

The little clip was great. The little taster has left me wanting more. Showing the band together just talking about their music like this is great. So much creativeness in one room :)

[bubba40]

I cannot lie; I'm having trouble hearing Sugar Will in this clip :(

[marco j]

I cannot lie; I'm having trouble hearing Sugar Will in this clip :(

I hear it in the very very begining of the clip, like the first five seconds or more. It's definately reworked but like theStand said it's probably a cannabilization of it.

[thestand]

The actual music as a whole doesn't sound like Sugar Will, no. But focus in on Dave's riff. It's strikingly similar.

[berman1125]

i hope there are cardboard cutouts of butch and rashawn for the next video. just them showing us how stupid we are being

[marco j]

The actual music as a whole doesn't sound like Sugar Will, no. But focus in on Dave's riff. It's strikingly similar.

Yes, and I think with a longer listen of it I bet the other parts are more similar than you think as well.

[K3nTaKa0s]

Dave says at the end that maybe there will be some surprises this tour. Could it be the return of the Lovely Ladies? heh.

[dmb5570]

Dave says at the end that maybe there will be some surprises this tour. Could it be the return of the Lovely Ladies? heh.

lol, that would mean even MORE people on stage. I think the stage is gonna be a bit crowded as is. I think the ultimate surprise wouldnt even be new music, it would be if they played an old song in a completely revamped sort of way.

[bartender_man]

I like how Cavallo appears to be just listening and taking in all of DMB's ideas. This could be an epic record.


Let's not get to carried away, it's just a small clip...

[Daevian]

Am I seriously the only one that thinks the last riff with just Dave and Stefan sounds pretty much the same as the Idea of You chorus?

[dmbfan4ever]

Am I seriously the only one that thinks the last riff with just Dave and Stefan sounds pretty much the same as the Idea of You chorus?
no, but the way they are talking about it (layers, intros), makes it basically impossible that it is, since IOY has no depth. Also, if you listened to the rearranged audio clip, you can hear that all the parts of that video are apart of 1 song.

[RobbtheRevelatr]

Yes. Absolutely. Dave brought in Trey for Sugar Will, Dave wanted Joyride, Dave wanted a lot of things that didn't happen. But he backed off because they majority of the band didn't want them.

What did you expect him to say? "Well, we didn't make this thing the way I wanted and I hate it. But here it is."

Yeah, but Trey being a guest doesn't mean the song would have turned out well. Batson still produced it... just see Hello Again on that album .... its a fing travesty how it waqs produced given how great that song was live.

[zwing23]

Where is this clip on The Warehouse site? I logged in and cant find it anywhere?...:mad

[kjam1988]

Think Dave left off most of the 04 songs because he didn't want them to be butchered by Batson? Starting to sound like Dave is the sane one of the bunch.

[bibby1044]

Think Dave left off most of the 04 songs because he didn't want them to be butchered by Batson? Starting to sound like Dave is the sane one of the bunch.
I think it was they sounded so superior to the shitty songs of Stand Up they just didnt fit due to awesomeness.

[jdx_random]

Have been watching and rewatching this clip for a few days now. To me, it feels, looks and sounds like exactly what we have all been clammering for. Almost too perfect. This clip shows us what we want to see. Dave's comparison feels cut and pasted from what we've been asking for. It all felt a little bit staged to me.

What that means, I don't know. Maybe they are making an album by our numbers, which believe it or not wouldn't be such a healthy thing. To do something well, they need to be inspired by the notion of it rather than the crowd. Having said that, what we've heard does seem to sound very cool, and even if only one song on the album sounds like that, that's still potentially one hell of a good song. I get the feeling that what we're going to hear will be pretty eclectic, being the product of more years and with more different musical ideas behind it than any other DMB album thus far. This won't be a direct thematic sequel to "Before These Crowded Streets" like everyone says they want, because there are going to be bits of Every Day and Busted Stuff and Stand Up in it too. Add to that the amount of people involved in this, Butch, Rashawn, Tim, Rob, probably Mark Batson somewhere down the line and you have what would seem to be a melting pot of different ideas. Most DMB albums have a blanket sound to them that you can define fairly easily. I expect this one to be all over the shop. It's going to be interesting.

[RobbtheRevelatr]

Think Dave left off most of the 04 songs because he didn't want them to be butchered by Batson? Starting to sound like Dave is the sane one of the bunch.

I don't.... Joyride is now an official b-side so its likely done and probably won't be reconsidered on this or any future album. Hello Again was the only song they seemed to feel was good enough to really keep, and it was a pale imitation of its live version. This talk of Sugar Will being considered is a total guess. I think its more likely to be majorly reworked as opposed to resurrected.

[dmbfan4ever]

I can't believe more people aren't talking about the lack of Butch and Rashawn in the video. Is their time with DMB done? Will they tour but not be in the studio? Did they just happen to not be in the room at these specific times?
I didn't see Boyd in the video....

[bibby1044]

I didn't see Boyd in the video....
:lol Your the first person that even noticed that and hes a main member.

[dmb5570]

Add to that the amount of people involved in this, Butch, Rashawn, Tim, Rob, probably Mark Batson somewhere down the line and you have what would seem to be a melting pot of different ideas.

? why mark batson? his time with the band is done.

[dmbfan4ever]

:lol Your the first person that even noticed that and hes a main member.
haha, crazy. I wonder if anyone knows who the other couple of guys in the video were...the one guy behind Cavallo, and there's another guy who the camera goes by real quick....just other production people i guess

[bibby1044]

I love when Tim is fingerpicking like a mad man at the end you can see Cavalo and some guy say something, I can only imagine what they must have been thinking watching what Tim can do.

[bibby1044]

haha, crazy. I wonder if anyone knows who the other couple of guys in the video were...the one guy behind Cavallo, and there's another guy who the camera goes by real quick....just other production people i guess
I actually think Boyd is in it now that I looked for him, when Dave is talking to Roi I think Boyd is sitting there with his back to the camera because it looks like his hair is tied back. Could be wrong though.

[dmbfan4ever]

I love when Tim is fingerpicking like a mad man at the end you can see Cavalo and some guy say something, I can only imagine what they must have been thinking watching what Tim can do.
I thought the exact same thing - and just so ya know, as a guitar palyer, i know 100% that they are both playing Shotgun. So amazing...

One interesting part I saw - when stefan and dave are talkin about that song, and cavallo throws out the idea for it being an intro, the way he reacts afterwards makes it look like he is very uncomfortable about putting ideas out....either because it's songwritnig and that's not his job, or because he feels somewhat in over his head, but I think it's the former. but watch him, his body says, "oh shit, did that sound stupid?"

[dmbfan4ever]

I actually think Boyd is in it now that I looked for him, when Dave is talking to Roi I think Boyd is sitting there with his back to the camera because it looks like his hair is tied back. Could be wrong though.
I'm not worried, I know boyd is there, probably writign some unreal Solo's or something in the back

[bibby1044]

I'm not worried, I know boyd is there, probably writign some unreal Solo's or something in the back
Yeah, its about time we get one of those.

and yeah Cavalo just chuckles cause he didnt know if that was a good idea or not. Good point with that I didnt really pay attention the first 34 times I watched it.

[Isaacdinho12]

Dave says at the end that maybe there will be some surprises this tour. Could it be the return of the Lovely Ladies? heh.


MACHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jdx_random]

? why mark batson? his time with the band is done.

yes it is, but he is bound to get a credit somewhere, and who knows how much they did in the studio with him back in 06. Along with the co-writing credit I expect for something, somewhere, there could even be a production credit for one of the tracks. Doesn't seem overly likely but it could happen. It depends how much new stuff Dave has really been writing I suppose.

[zwing23]

Seriously...Where can I find this video? I don't see it on The Warehouse website...am I blind?

[bibby1044]

yes it is, but he is bound to get a credit somewhere, and who knows how much they did in the studio with him back in 06. Along with the co-writing credit I expect for something, somewhere, there could even be a production credit for one of the tracks. Doesn't seem overly likely but it could happen. It depends how much new stuff Dave has really been writing I suppose.
I have a feeling those songs will be reworked though. I dont know if that takes the credit away or not.

[dmbfan4ever]

Yeah, its about time we get one of those.

and yeah Cavalo just chuckles cause he didnt know if that was a good idea or not. Good point with that I didnt really pay attention the first 34 times I watched it.
LOL, I've watched it like 50 times, it's so pathetic but so awesome. I hope we get videos every week or 2...

[bibby1044]

^ that would be very convenient, werent we supposed to be getting a podcast soon?

Seriously...Where can I find this video? I don't see it on The Warehouse website...am I blind?
Just go on youtube and type in dmb studio.

[zwing23]

Oh Thanks...I thought it was on the warehouse site and couldn't find it anywhere.

[bibby1044]

Oh Thanks...I thought it was on the warehouse site and couldn't find it anywhere.
I think it was an email or something, but either way its all over. Myspace, Facebook and Youtube and no problem.

[bubba40]

Oh Thanks...I thought it was on the warehouse site and couldn't find it anywhere.

Search "dave matthews band litho" on youtube, it'll be right there.

[ANDREWKREP]

for some reason roi saying "it's got an urgency to it" makes me incredibly happy. makes me think of a before these crowded streets song.

[dre2142]

I love when Tim is fingerpicking like a mad man at the end you can see Cavalo and some guy say something, I can only imagine what they must have been thinking watching what Tim can do.

Theyre not new to the business. Theyve seen it all before.

[dre2142]

One interesting part I saw - when stefan and dave are talkin about that song, and cavallo throws out the idea for it being an intro, the way he reacts afterwards makes it look like he is very uncomfortable about putting ideas out....either because it's songwritnig and that's not his job, or because he feels somewhat in over his head, but I think it's the former. but watch him, his body says, "oh shit, did that sound stupid?"

Lol. Cmon....I know we all love DMB, but youre putting the band on a higher pedestal than everyone Cavallo has ever worked with in the past. (including Fleetwood Mac, Morrissette, Green Day, My Chemical Romance, Kid Rock, Goo Goo Dolls, Chris Isaak, etc etc etc)

[werkinsnake]

Lol. Cmon....I know we all love DMB, but youre putting the band on a higher pedestal than everyone Cavallo has ever worked with in the past. (including Fleetwood Mac, Morrissette, Green Day, My Chemical Romance, Kid Rock, Goo Goo Dolls, Chris Isaak, etc etc etc)

Agreed. Cavallo's crudentials put him along the same lines as Lillywhite. This could work...this could work.


BTW, my bet is that the opening jam is Sugar Will. Same key, same guitar riff, and Roi is playing on an alto sax, which he seldom plays. In addition, I've heard Roi play that same fall down the scale lick in a version of Sugar Will back in 04. Keep in mind that none of this is conclusive, and the band may have reworked the song. This is just my best possible guess given the 3 seconds of the song that I've heard.

[RobbtheRevelatr]

yes it is, but he is bound to get a credit somewhere, and who knows how much they did in the studio with him back in 06. Along with the co-writing credit I expect for something, somewhere, there could even be a production credit for one of the tracks. Doesn't seem overly likely but it could happen. It depends how much new stuff Dave has really been writing I suppose.

He was not listed as a co-writer on Shotgun on the 2007 Tour Sampler Disk. Thought that was interesting. I'm pretty sure it emerged from the sessions he was in on, but it must have evolved enough that they dropped him from the credit of it.

[number4ty1]

I also sense a "Sugar Will-ish" feel in that initial jam.

If you focus solely on the guitar riff you might notice it as well.

[Malaguy]

after watching it many times I've come to these conclusions:

1) the opening clip = too inconclusive for me to guess what song, although I don't hear Sugar Will in there.
2) I think the part where Roi is talking about it being faster, he is talking about Shotgun. It sounds like it's playing in the background at that point, and that would make sense.
3) ummm...FUCKING SWEET to see the whole band (seemingly) involved in the writing process and Cavallo doing what a producer is supposed to do.
4) I'm damn excited for this album, and seeing as how I just got my Alpine tix confirmations, I'm doing pretty good right about now Re: the DMB-universe.

[robertjohnsmith]

I don't recognize the song in the opening credit
that is totally an awesome, AWESOME sugar will jam!!! i am pumped!! go roi!

[Rockyall107]

dude its not sugar will just like everyone thought everybody wake up was build you a house..

[JunkBondTrader]

wow, so pumped for this release. this should be awesome.

[dmbfan4ever]

dude its not sugar will just like everyone thought everybody wake up was build you a house..
I didn't think so either, but when I listened to the version from teh Stand Up bonus disc, if you listen to dave's guitar right before the big Leroi jam, it sounds very similar, as do the drums.

[Caveat Emperor]

3) ummm...FUCKING SWEET to see the whole band (seemingly) involved in the writing process and Cavallo doing what a producer is supposed to do.

Wasn't that the problem with Stand Up, though? Too many people involved in the writing process as opposed to Dave hammering out tunes and the band playing them?

[navy88]

Wasn't that the problem with Stand Up, though? Too many people involved in the writing process as opposed to Dave hammering out tunes and the band playing them?

I think it's pretty hard to glean too much insight into the creative proccess of the band from a twenty second clip of Roi offering an opinion and Fonz and Dave working on some chords.

I mean yeah it's something, but it's a bit silly to take it as indicative of the ENTIRE studio process.

[Konodmb41]

the song in the beginning is not sugar will. the guitar part sounds a little like it if it were sped up but the vocals and violin don't fit that well. the middle section is an intro to idea of you and the end is live shotgun

[BigEyedFerg]

^How are you so sure about the intro to IOY? Sounds like a completely new song, if you ask me

[bibby1044]

the song in the beginning is not sugar will. the guitar part sounds a little like it if it were sped up but the vocals and violin don't fit that well. the middle section is an intro to idea of you and the end is live shotgun
Exactly, that simply means it could possibly be reworked, no one said anything about it having to stay the same song.

[Panther41]

Wasn't that the problem with Stand Up, though? Too many people involved in the writing process as opposed to Dave hammering out tunes and the band playing them?

The problem was Dave apparently tried to write lyrics in a group setting, on the fly--which never really works. Writing of any kind is an intensely personal process of laying one's thoughts down into words. I can hardly compose an email if someone's looking over my shoulder let alone write poetry.

I've always liked R.E.M.'s approach. They have a very definite system where they'd come up with the musical parts, and then Stipe would go off and return with lyrics. Or, Stipe would have some lyrics he'd come up with, which he'd then try to fit with the music. Granted this isn't a perfect analogy--Dave is a guitarist. But still.

The issue, I suspect, with Stand Up was that Dave was literally sitting at the mic trying to pull lyrics out of the air... and while he surely has a gift for improv on stage, it wasn't working in that studio.

I think, however, that Cavallo is not going to settle for limp lyrics. He's now got too much of a reputation to uphold, so this album has to be stellar, quality work. I don't think he'll be as tight-fisted as Lillywhite, but I suspect he'll be fairly demanding of our boys' talents. He knows they are world-class musicians. And hopefully, he's going to make them prove that again.

Which I think we can all agree is a good thing.

[jayman414]

The problem was Dave apparently tried to write lyrics in a group setting, on the fly--which never really works. Writing of any kind is an intensely personal process of laying one's thoughts down into words. I can hardly compose an email if someone's looking over my shoulder let alone write poetry.

I've always liked R.E.M.'s approach. They have a very definite system where they'd come up with the musical parts, and then Stipe would go off and return with lyrics. Or, Stipe would have some lyrics he'd come up with, which he'd then try to fit with the music. Granted this isn't a perfect analogy--Dave is a guitarist. But still.

The issue, I suspect, with Stand Up was that Dave was literally sitting at the mic trying to pull lyrics out of the air... and while he surely has a gift for improv on stage, it wasn't working in that studio.

I think, however, that Cavallo is not going to settle for limp lyrics. He's now got too much of a reputation to uphold, so this album has to be stellar, quality work. I don't think he'll be as tight-fisted as Lillywhite, but I suspect he'll be fairly demanding of our boys' talents. He knows they are world-class musicians. And hopefully, he's going to make them prove that again.

Which I think we can all agree is a good thing.


I completely agree with you on that, DMB needs to have a redemption album this time around and Cavallo is no push over like Baston was. Cavallo is somewhat of a big hitter in the producing industry and he has to uphold a reputation too.

[Caveat Emperor]

I think, however, that Cavallo is not going to settle for limp lyrics. He's now got too much of a reputation to uphold, so this album has to be stellar, quality work. I don't think he'll be as tight-fisted as Lillywhite, but I suspect he'll be fairly demanding of our boys' talents. He knows they are world-class musicians. And hopefully, he's going to make them prove that again.

Which I think we can all agree is a good thing.

Agreed. :thumbsup

Though, I'd love to know how this whole process works. Did the band meet Cavallo in the studio with a set down list of songs to work? Did Cavallo ask to hear everything they'd done since the last album? Does Cavallo actually get on Dave for crap lyrics and tell him he needs to lay something better down? How many different ways do they play the same song until they hit a version they like and really start to work it out?

It'd be fun to be a fly on the wall -- and not just because you could hear the new music early.

[Caveat Emperor]

I completely agree with you on that, DMB needs to have a redemption album this time around and Cavallo is no push over like Baston was. Cavallo is somewhat of a big hitter in the producing industry and he has to uphold a reputation too.

Although you might not like what he did with the band, I don't think you can call Batson a pushover in the music industry.

[DerekJTR2]

Although you might not like what he did with the band, I don't think you can call Batson a pushover in the music industry.

I just think it comes down to the fit. They just didn't fit together well.

[jayman414]

Although you might not like what he did with the band, I don't think you can call Batson a pushover in the music industry.

Maybe not in that industry but he certainly came off that way with DMB

[DerekJTR2]

And I think the band may have been the pushovers in this situation.

[JGil584]

good stuff...that was shotgun at the end and it sounded tight

[dmb5570]

good stuff...that was shotgun at the end and it sounded tight


live version from the 2007 summer sampler.

[kyledmb]

Agreed. Cavallo's crudentials put him along the same lines as Lillywhite. This could work...this could work.


BTW, my bet is that the opening jam is Sugar Will. Same key, same guitar riff, and Roi is playing on an alto sax, which he seldom plays. In addition, I've heard Roi play that same fall down the scale lick in a version of Sugar Will back in 04. Keep in mind that none of this is conclusive, and the band may have reworked the song. This is just my best possible guess given the 3 seconds of the song that I've heard.

are you sure that is not soprano he is playing?

[Panther41]

Agreed. :thumbsup

Though, I'd love to know how this whole process works. Did the band meet Cavallo in the studio with a set down list of songs to work? Did Cavallo ask to hear everything they'd done since the last album? Does Cavallo actually get on Dave for crap lyrics and tell him he needs to lay something better down? How many different ways do they play the same song until they hit a version they like and really start to work it out?

It'd be fun to be a fly on the wall -- and not just because you could hear the new music early.

Exactly. I've been wondering that myself--who approached who?

As to the person calling Batson a pushover... I don't think it was that. The band was trying a new angle--recording spontaneously, at a relaxed pace, not pressuring themselves, and they hired Batson to let them do exactly that. However, that approach doesn't work so well for DMB; their signature is the really complex stuff, and the musical virtuosity of each of the players playing at their peak level. On stage, there's the roar of the crowd to command the performance. In the studio, that requires a general to marshall the troops, so-to-speak.

But that's not Batson's fault. He ran the sessions the way the band wanted to. (Yeah, okay, that's speculation... but from the videos and finished product, this is the conclusion I come to).

[Northerntube]

people love to blame Batson for SU but the truth is, he did the job he was hired to do. And from that perspective, he did it well.

[RobbtheRevelatr]

people love to blame Batson for SU but the truth is, he did the job he was hired to do. And from that perspective, he did it well.

I don't blame Batson for the subpar album.... but he didn't just come in and push record. He helped them write, and brought a sampling and hip hop mentality to the record. They wanted him to guide them and put his stamp on their music. It just wasn't a good fit. The production on the album is rich.. lots of texture and layering. Just listen to Stand Up (for it). There's a lot going on and it's pretty cool when you listen.

It's just that the production was wrong for DMB, and the band did make that choice. I was more frustrated when they said they were going back in the studio with him shortly after the Stand Up summer tour. I'm glad it didn't work out, but certainly I wish Batson well.

[HolyCow]

I don't blame Batson for the subpar album.... but he didn't just come in and push record. He helped them write, and brought a sampling and hip hop mentality to the record. They wanted him to guide them and put his stamp on their music. It just wasn't a good fit. The production on the album is rich.. lots of texture and layering. Just listen to Stand Up (for it). There's a lot going on and it's pretty cool when you listen.

It's just that the production was wrong for DMB, and the band did make that choice. I was more frustrated when they said they were going back in the studio with him shortly after the Stand Up summer tour. I'm glad it didn't work out, but certainly I wish Batson well.

Very well said. :thumbsup

[dmbfan3390]

So far judging by the new songs the band has put out the last 3 years, this will be the best studio ever done by DMB. Songs like JTR, Shotgun, SUAD, Break Free, Cornbread, Sugar Will, Eh Hee, Joyride and #27 are some of the best songs I've heard in years

[TMoore4075]

I don't blame Batson for the subpar album.... but he didn't just come in and push record. He helped them write, and brought a sampling and hip hop mentality to the record. They wanted him to guide them and put his stamp on their music. It just wasn't a good fit. The production on the album is rich.. lots of texture and layering. Just listen to Stand Up (for it). There's a lot going on and it's pretty cool when you listen.

It's just that the production was wrong for DMB, and the band did make that choice. I was more frustrated when they said they were going back in the studio with him shortly after the Stand Up summer tour. I'm glad it didn't work out, but certainly I wish Batson well.

This is a perfect way of putting it. Like either Matt or Jake, don't remember who, said in one of the podcasts, he helped them make the record that they wanted. I think too many people here want to put the blame on somebody.

[cettel]

I think the cool thing about this studio clip is how it shows the band listening to something, talking about it together, and then cuts to a shot of Dave and Stefan coming up with the idea that they are listening to in the beginning. They Tarantino the studio footage. Clever.

[jpsimon]

am i the only one that can't find this on iLike? i think i might be slightly retarded

[BeQuietAndDrive]

So far judging by the new songs the band has put out the last 3 years, this will be the best studio ever done by DMB. Songs like JTR, Shotgun, SUAD, Break Free, Cornbread, Sugar Will, Eh Hee, Joyride and #27 are some of the best songs I've heard in years

I'd give JTR, SUAD, Break Free and Eh Hee less than 10% chance of being on this album.

I'd give Joyride a 0% chance.

I'd give Sugar Will maybe 20%.

[DerekJTR2]

people love to blame Batson for SU but the truth is, he did the job he was hired to do. And from that perspective, he did it well.

It's not blame and I'm sure he did his job. The problem is that the aesthetic he brought to the table just didn't work. And who didn't it work for? Us (not me I love Stand Up) but maybe it worked for the band. It was different. No blame. Just different angles contributing to the overall

[berman1125]

^awsome screen name, my favorite one ive seen so far

[DerekJTR2]

^awsome screen name, my favorite one ive seen so far

:thumbsup Thanks!

[darbini]

It's been almost 3 weeks since that in studio video was released, anyone anxious to see the next? It's like crack.

[DerekJTR2]

It's been almost 3 weeks since that in studio video was released, anyone anxious to see the next? It's like crack.

It's probably easier to get crack than a studio update right now

[Jake]

I told you (read: everyone) before, don't expect many updates, or rather, expect them infrequently.

[JimiThing3403]

I told you (read: everyone) before, don't expect many updates, or rather, expect them infrequently.

why has the band chosen to take this method unlike stand up when they gave us frequent updates?

[whiteysax]

am i the only one that can't find this on iLike? i think i might be slightly retarded
I checked a week ago or so and couldn't find it

[cherone21]

why has the band chosen to take this method unlike stand up when they gave us frequent updates?

Stir the pot before the tour. Get everyone interested in going to hear the new songs. It surely sold a couple extra tickets.

[NumberForTOne]

Because this is more tight-lidded and is supposed to be suspenseful. (Read: they're trying hard)

[BigEyedFerg]

Anything that is anti-Stand Up is just fine by me... I'll wait patiently for updates

[dmb5570]

yea, but what harm is a 90 second video with a lot of talk over the music. it keeps us busy for a week trying to figure out what we think it is and it really doesnt lead us on to whats actually on the album. i dont need weekly updates, but a little every few weeks would be awesome.

[BigEyedFerg]

^There's also no harm in us just waiting... :freak

[bennettr]

nice avatar

[BigEyedFerg]

^Was that directed to me? If so, thanks :cool I got pretty damn bored at work one day, and that was the result of my boredom :thumbsup

[kjam1988]

That avatar is pretty sweet man.

[sir iggius]

yeah, it's pretty cool

[tx_dmbfan_42]

hey is that the album version of Cornbread in On the Road with DMB Summer 2007 Part 3?

[thestand]

The new info (from reliable people, I assure you) is that the next video will be up when the site goes live. He also says that the entire session was filmed in HD, for very similar type deal that Stand Up had.

[berman1125]

The new info (from reliable people, I assure you) is that the next video will be up when the site goes live. He also says that the entire session was filmed in HD, for very similar type deal that Stand Up had.


any approx of when the site will be up?

[DMBZeppelin]

hey is that the album version of Cornbread in On the Road with DMB Summer 2007 Part 3?
I'd say it's very doubtful, and probably a soundcheck/live version. Just like the Sweet Up & Down turned out to be a soundcheck (according to Stefan). I don't think they went in to start doing final recordings till Feb/March when Fonz posted that one blog on MySpace.

[dmbfan4ever]

The new info (from reliable people, I assure you) is that the next video will be up when the site goes live. He also says that the entire session was filmed in HD, for very similar type deal that Stand Up had.
the session was filmed....meaning it is over?

[berman1125]

the session was filmed....meaning it is over?


yea i wonder if that means done recording, or just that session. i am assuming that session.

[dmbfan4ever]

yea i wonder if that means done recording, or just that session. i am assuming that session.
that make sense, good clarification.

[berman1125]

that make sense, good clarification.

well im sure he will clear it up when he gets a chance, he is ususally pretty spot on

[marco j]

Stir the pot before the tour. Get everyone interested in going to hear the new songs. It surely sold a couple extra tickets.

Then why the hell wasn't there an official announcement that Tim was joining them on the tour?!?!?:shrug

Did I miss that, because that would ensure higher ticket sales?

[DirtyDeeds449]

The new info (from reliable people, I assure you) is that the next video will be up when the site goes live. He also says that the entire session was filmed in HD, for very similar type deal that Stand Up had.

It's good to have some new info. I really appreciate it man. Did you find out anything else out? More studio plans, how the sessions went/are going, etc?

[SoMuchToSay_07]

Then why the hell wasn't there an official announcement that Tim was joining them on the tour?!?!?:shrug

Did I miss that, because that would ensure higher ticket sales?
most of the typical dmb concertgoer's have no idea who Tim is

[cherone21]

most of the typical dmb concertgoer's have no idea who Tim is

I wonder what the % of new/novice fans are at each show? Probably more than half.

[marco j]

most of the typical dmb concertgoer's have no idea who Tim is

That is simply not true. It is a marketing failure that they didn't announce Tim was on board all tour.

[WiseManSay]

That is simply not true. It is a marketing failure that they didn't announce Tim was on board all tour.

It's possible that they didn't make that decision until after tickets went on sale.

[RobbtheRevelatr]

Then why the hell wasn't there an official announcement that Tim was joining them on the tour?!?!?:shrug

Did I miss that, because that would ensure higher ticket sales?

Most DMB venues sell out anyway... so it might have meant they sold out quicker... some will not quite sell out anyway, no matter who's playing with them.

EDIT: Well... maybe if Britany Speirs were guesting they would sell out.

[bdj1311]

The new info (from reliable people, I assure you) is that the next video will be up when the site goes live. He also says that the entire session was filmed in HD, for very similar type deal that Stand Up had.

:thumbsup :D

Very exciting little tidbit

[DerekJTR2]

:thumbsup :D

Very exciting little tidbit

Ya but when! haha

[thestand]

the session was filmed....meaning it is over?
They're not in the studio right now (don't quote me, but I think they're all in Virginia right now, as they've been in and out of Haunted Hollow), so the work they've done in Seattle so far has been filmed. But they'll be going back there, and I'd imagine anything new will be filmed as well. I was just saying that, up until now, everything has been filmed.

[DerekJTR2]

How do you know this? And we kind of knew they'd be recording in CVille as well, so what's the deal there?

[warehouseguy]

thats great news!!!!

[marco j]

They're not in the studio right now (don't quote me, but I think they're all in Virginia right now, as they've been in and out of Haunted Hollow), so the work they've done in Seattle so far has been filmed. But they'll be going back there, and I'd imagine anything new will be filmed as well. I was just saying that, up until now, everything has been filmed.

Sooooo.....when does the reality show aire?:D

[bdj1311]

Ya but when! haha

"When will then be now?"

"SOOON!"

Ha Ha Ha. Thats what I was thinking too.

[jordanbball17]

Sooooo.....when does the reality show aire?:D
You know, actually, they would make a GREAT reality show.
Like if the whole show was similar to the BTCS Promo vid, it would be hilarious.

[bdj1311]

^
It would definitly drum up more attention mainstream wise for the band, I just don't see DMB doing a reality show, that is more like something Timberlake/Fall Out Boy/ One of the simpson sisters would do.

[jordanbball17]

^
It would definitly drum up more attention mainstream wise for the band, I just don't see DMB doing a reality show, that is more like something Timberlake/Fall Out Boy/ One of the simpson sisters would do.
Very true.
But I see it as being similar to Rob & Big; five guys (instead of two) having a great time in life, and being absolutely hilarious.
I know it will never happen, but I'd love to see it instead of Rock of Love 456

[bdj1311]

^
Absolutely, I think done correctly it would be really cool to see the recording process and them in the studio, and like I said it woud definitly bring them back into the spot light, just with the show, plus I think people would get a kick out of watching Dave, he'd be funny. It just doesn't seem Dave Matthews Bandish to do so, I would love to see it though.

On a side note it was upsetting to learn Rob & Big is over. Definitly one of my favorite TV shows of all time.

[bdj1311]

Very true.
But I see it as being similar to Rob & Big; five guys (instead of two) having a great time in life, and being absolutely hilarious.
I know it will never happen, but I'd love to see it instead of Rock of Love 456


The unintentional comedy scale of Rock of Love is priceless, it really is.

"My Diabettys" :lol

[jordanbball17]

^
Absolutely, I think done correctly it would be really cool to see the recording process and them in the studio, and like I said it woud definitly bring them back into the spot light, just with the show, plus I think people would get a kick out of watching Dave, he'd be funny. It just doesn't seem Dave Matthews Bandish to do so, I would love to see it though.

On a side note it was upsetting to learn Rob & Big is over. Definitly one of my favorite TV shows of all time.
Exactly.
Remember that one show (I think it was a couple summers ago) where they put this one band in a bubble and didn't let them come out for a month or until their album was done??
That's what DMB needs right there.
Plus, like you said, it would be really helpful for their popularity to have a show on MTV or VH1, to get them back in the spotlight, so to speak.

I was upset too :thumbsdow That was a very funny show

[JunkBondTrader]

that was cartel. they are a shitty band to begin with, and it seemed like they did it mostly for the lucrative benefits, the album pretty much flopped.....as they were expecting huge sales because Dr. Peppers put so much money into that campaign. bad idea, Cartel had like 30 days to record an album, if DMB were to go into a bubble with no material and record for just 30 days, the album would be absolute garbage, terrible idea.

[jordanbball17]

that was cartel. they are a shitty band to begin with, and it seemed like they did it mostly for the lucrative benefits, the album pretty much flopped.....as they were expecting huge sales because Dr. Peppers put so much money into that campaign. bad idea, Cartel had like 30 days to record an album, if DMB were to go into a bubble with no material and record for just 30 days, the album would be absolute garbage, terrible idea.
They wouldn't go in with absolutely nothing. They have all of their road-tested songs.
But I agree, they aren't the type of band to get things in done in a short period of time. They need long periods of time to get anything good out of it.
Which is why I'm so excited for this new album :multi

[jordanbball17]

The unintentional comedy scale of Rock of Love is priceless, it really is.

"My Diabettys" :lol
Haha yeah, it can have its funny moments.
But it's basically "sooo, who am I gonna have sex with now?" :lol

[Jordan#41]

I went to the Warhouse site and I cant find anything? Where can I watch this?

[dmbfan101]

I went to the Warhouse site and I cant find anything? Where can I watch this?


http://ilike.com/artist/Dave+Matthews+Band/videos/117494203

here ya go :hug

[Jordan#41]

Link doesnt work. Thanks anyway-


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[kyledmb]

Link doesnt work. Thanks anyway-


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they took the video down b/c it was a fake! :lol :lol

[Pig17]

So how many people saw the thread title from the main page and started flipping out. :lol

[BigMikeDMB]

meee

[kyledmb]

So how many people saw the thread title from the main page and started flipping out. :lol

:lol :lol :lol

Yeah if i go to the main page and see "New Studio Footage" as the latest thread and see 25+ people view the sub-forum i get excited.

but its always the same outcome....nothing.