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nateisonaim
04-29-2008, 07:42 AM
I'm hoping that A Dream So Real has better guitar with Dave and Tim in the studio, maybe with Dave on the little guitar.

And also you'd figure one oldie would come back. It's a theme that works with most of the albums except Stand Up. I'm thinking JTR could get remixed. It would sound really good on the little guitar and they could use the "save me child" in the Lilywhite sessions as the major melody instead of "rain down on me" which got used in Dreams of our Fathers. I think one of the reasons it wasn't put on Busted Stuff despite being played all those times was because of that fact and that'd they never were able to work it. I think i'd sound great on the little guitar as a switch up.

spoot388
04-29-2008, 05:50 PM
The band should not put out an album if they cannot make a song better than ADSR to take its place. Its not that hard if they actually try.


And JTR would become very annoying on the Veillette. Way too high pitched for the song.

bibby1044
04-29-2008, 08:07 PM
Putting JTR on an album would be a mistake for the band imo, the track was nearly complete for tLWS which you know no matter what they do people are just going to be upset with it.

If ADSR makes the album, there definently will be guitar on it, thats what the studio is for and probably on the Viellete.

nateisonaim
05-03-2008, 04:25 AM
I dunno I just think i'd sound good. I really miss the "Save Me Child" and think i'd be a great corus.

DerekJTR2
05-03-2008, 04:09 PM
The band should not put out an album if they cannot make a song better than ADSR to take its place. Its not that hard if they actually try.

Why does it need to be "replaced?" An album is a collection of songs. Not a competitive mix ranked from 1-13 or whatever

and I think the JTR from tLWS can easily be topped.

akf091
05-03-2008, 05:06 PM
i really don't wanna see any new songs on a new album with the exception of things from the 04 tour. I have pleanty of recordings of JTR and SUAD (both of which already have studio versions out there), and if the band doesn't have enough material to make a solid NEW album then they shouldnt be in the studio. with that being said i believe they have a lot of new and hopefully solid songs and ill be able to open that cd and be surprised by almost every song on there.

jmdt52
05-03-2008, 05:49 PM
i really don't wanna see any new songs on a new album with the exception of things from the 04 tour. I have pleanty of recordings of JTR and SUAD (both of which already have studio versions out there), and if the band doesn't have enough material to make a solid NEW album then they shouldnt be in the studio. with that being said i believe they have a lot of new and hopefully solid songs and ill be able to open that cd and be surprised by almost every song on there.

So your saying the band should go the Stand Up route? They wrote all of those songs in studio with the exception of Hello Again, which they pretty much butchered in the studio as well. I think they need to go back to the proven methods of road testing their songs like on UTTAD and Crash.

BigEyedFerg
05-03-2008, 06:22 PM
So your saying the band should go the Stand Up route? They wrote all of those songs in studio with the exception of Hello Again, which they pretty much butchered in the studio as well. I think they need to go back to the proven methods of road testing their songs like on UTTAD and Crash.

How do you explain such phenomenon as BTCS? :shrug It can be done.

spoot388
05-03-2008, 07:00 PM
Why does it need to be "replaced?" An album is a collection of songs. Not a competitive mix ranked from 1-13 or whatever

and I think the JTR from tLWS can easily be topped.


Ya, an album is a collection of songs. BTCS is an album. Stand Up is also an album. If ADSR is on this album and is anywhere near its current state, the album will be much closer to being the next Stand Up than the next BTCS. If they can't complete a track listing with songs better than ADSR, they should not even bother putting it out.

I would rather the band take another 5 years to put this album out than to put it out now, when its expected to be released, and have lackluster and even flat out bad song writing taking up space. This band is WAY too talented to not be able to make anything better than ADSR. Dave doesn't even play on the song for crying out loud. And no, that little "solo" does not count.

akf091
05-03-2008, 07:56 PM
So your saying the band should go the Stand Up route? They wrote all of those songs in studio with the exception of Hello Again, which they pretty much butchered in the studio as well. I think they need to go back to the proven methods of road testing their songs like on UTTAD and Crash.
i think there was a lot more to lack of success of stand up than he fact that it was written primarily in the studio...BTCS us a prim example of what can happen with an album that is written in the studio for the most part. I just really don't want an album where i already know half of the tracks. its a new album for a reason.

jmdt52
05-03-2008, 08:05 PM
How do you explain such phenomenon as BTCS? :shrug It can be done.

i think there was a lot more to lack of success of stand up than he fact that it was written primarily in the studio...BTCS us a prim example of what can happen with an album that is written in the studio for the most part. I just really don't want an album where i already know half of the tracks. its a new album for a reason.

While BTCS was done primarily in studio, I think the greatness of that album is more of an anomaly. We have to remember that in the 10 years since that album, nothing outside of LWS has been that good, and those sessions were never even released officially. You also have to keep in mind that Lillywhite was in the studio for both of those examples, and he has been the only producer that has pushed DMB to their limits and gotten them to reach their greatest potential in the studio. While I think Cavallo will be a good match with them, we can't assume that he'll have that kind of effect on the band when so many others have failed miserably.

SmoothRider[PL]
05-05-2008, 08:33 AM
I'd like to hear:

A Dream So Real
Shotgun (2006 debut style)

But it will be: A Dream So Real and Shotgun 2007 style.

jpb705
05-05-2008, 03:57 PM
1) JTR wouldn't work on the soprano guitar, it's written for a 12-string standard. The extra octave of the 12-string is enough of a high pitch. That little guitar would ruin the song entirely and he'd have to figure out each individual note again since the tuning is so different.

2) I can't believe people WANT to hear ADSR, haha. That song is wretched. They should put out 04 songs IMO. Let's get some SUAD, Crazy-Easy, and Sugar Will on there!

Acester25
05-05-2008, 06:16 PM
I personally love A Dream So Real for its different sound. Same with Sugar Will.

Both of those songs grow on you. A lot like BTCS did. If each of them can be refined and layered, they would be 2 great and diverse tracks. They'd sound great in the studio if done right.

Side Note: I'm a fan of the layered, organic sound, not the dumbed-down, let's make it as simple as possible sound. In other words, the more hits on percussion, the more strums of the guitars, the more notes played on the horns and strings, the better IMHO. It just makes it more interesting and enjoyable. :cool :thumbsup

minkisman03
05-13-2008, 05:27 AM
With the recent sound of the band, it would be strange to have a dream so real on the new album. I feel with the new material, it is going towards a more soulful (IDK if Southern) sound. I wouldnt put it past the band though because I could have sworn that I heard Dave mention somewhere that he had laid down The Idea of You, and that sounds nothing like the other unreleased material from the 06-07 tour. I feel that this "Southern" sound started with Hello Again, continued with Smooth Rider, and then Cornbread and #27. Personally, I would think that Break Free would be a better choice than A Dream So Real.

Mateo2k
05-13-2008, 09:43 AM
I personally love A Dream So Real for its different sound. Same with Sugar Will.

Both of those songs grow on you. A lot like BTCS did. If each of them can be refined and layered, they would be 2 great and diverse tracks. They'd sound great in the studio if done right.

Side Note: I'm a fan of the layered, organic sound, not the dumbed-down, let's make it as simple as possible sound. In other words, the more hits on percussion, the more strums of the guitars, the more notes played on the horns and strings, the better IMHO. It just makes it more interesting and enjoyable. :cool :thumbsup

Not always.

dreamingtree_34
05-13-2008, 09:27 PM
Why does it need to be "replaced?" An album is a collection of songs. Not a competitive mix ranked from 1-13 or whatever

and I think the JTR from tLWS can easily be topped.



i think its pretty flawless actually. one of the bands most underrated studio tracks imo. what could they make better? the music and daves vocals are spot on. and even though its from tLWS you can't really call it incomplete

DirtyDeeds449
05-13-2008, 10:17 PM
OMG! Granny and #40!!!!!!!!!


seriously though:

Shotgun and Sugar Will.

CrushLive
05-18-2008, 02:54 AM
I personally love A Dream So Real for its different sound. Same with Sugar Will.

Both of those songs grow on you. A lot like BTCS did. If each of them can be refined and layered, they would be 2 great and diverse tracks. They'd sound great in the studio if done right.

Side Note: I'm a fan of the layered, organic sound, not the dumbed-down, let's make it as simple as possible sound. In other words, the more hits on percussion, the more strums of the guitars, the more notes played on the horns and strings, the better IMHO. It just makes it more interesting and enjoyable. :cool :thumbsup

I love ADSR as well...kind of has a haunting feel to it.

kingchrisII
05-18-2008, 09:54 AM
Break Free and Loving Wings.

Break Free would be a nice cool way to open the cd, with Loving Wings being the ideal way to end a cd. :thumbsup:thumbsup

DerekJTR2
05-18-2008, 12:46 PM
Break Free and Loving Wings.

Break Free would be a nice cool way to open the cd, with Loving Wings being the ideal way to end a cd. :thumbsup:thumbsup

Not feelin Break Free to open but I wouldn't mind hearing it on the album

marco j
05-18-2008, 01:25 PM
Live, I'm hoping for Sugarwill and Minarets.

Joyride4136
05-18-2008, 02:05 PM
i would like #36 and monkey man

edit: psych!!
realistically- sugar will and shotgun

beefjerky41
05-18-2008, 10:57 PM
I wanna hear:
New Song
New Song






Thats all.

DirtyDeeds449
05-18-2008, 11:10 PM
I wanna hear:
New Song
New Song






Thats all.

Why do you want to hear the same song twice?

JayBomb24
05-18-2008, 11:11 PM
ADSR needs to go, period. That song is so lame, the only good thing that came from that song was the lyrics being used as a Two Step intro @ Blossom. Scrap ADSR and bring back Run While You Can.

beefjerky41
05-18-2008, 11:12 PM
Why do you want to hear the same song twice?
Sorry.
New Song #1
New Song #2

.

beefjerky41
05-18-2008, 11:15 PM
Seriously tho I want Sugar Will. I just cant get enough of this song. Even the ones with mangled lyrics are good for me. The SU bonus SW is SEX.

marco j
05-18-2008, 11:32 PM
^ I believe the term is Sweet Chicken.:cool

beefjerky41
05-18-2008, 11:47 PM
^ I believe the term is Sweet Chicken.:cool
I musta missed that one. I like Mango Chicken tho.

DirtyDeeds449
05-18-2008, 11:51 PM
Sorry.
New Song #1
New Song #2

.

Ha, I was just kidding. No worries. :)

Kook
05-19-2008, 01:15 AM
Break Free and Loving Wings.

Break Free would be a nice cool way to open the cd, with Loving Wings being the ideal way to end a cd. :thumbsup:thumbsup

i've always felt "loving wings" to end an album would be damn near perfect, ala "proudest monkey" and "spoon."

:thumbsup

i pray for "shotgun" every night.

and as far as ADSR, if it fits with the overall tone of the album, i'm fine with it. while its not my favorite, it certainly grew on me. dave's vocals and emphasis on certain lyrics are wonderful.

zachyd
05-19-2008, 02:03 AM
Sugar Will
Good Good Time


Just to ensure that I see them this year...

rickyh24
05-19-2008, 02:39 AM
Good Good Time with Tim on tour would be so money. Too bad its not going to happen

dmbmuskie
05-19-2008, 07:37 PM
I'd love to hear Sugar Will and a dark Crazy Easy, but I know it won't happen.

cchsbigc
05-19-2008, 07:43 PM
Crazy-Easy and maybe #27

dmblars39
05-20-2008, 10:13 AM
I think Falling Off the Roof has potential to be a cool studio song, I'd like to see what they do with it

And I love love Good Good Time live, but IMO it should be kept live... like Granny should!

bphlzl
05-20-2008, 03:38 PM
Sugar Will
SBC Soundcheck

OleMissRebels
05-20-2008, 04:26 PM
#27 and shotgun