anyone else getting worried

[comerelaxnow]

that this cd is not going to be very good? for some reason with the start of this tour and how weird everything really is i just don't have a good feeling about it anymore. what are they waiting for? where are any new songs? not even one? a tease of one? i seems like all of their time went into all the new cover songs and trying new things with songs they already had and then brushing up on some Dave and Friends songs.

maybe butch had a huge part on the new cd and they are kinda stuck now??? i doubt that

[BigEyedFerg]

I don't think it's time to flip a shit yet. They've made multiple public statements on the amount of material they came up with. It's just... not ready yet. Seems like they've kept it rather ambiguous to maintain hype while at the same time covering their own asses when they spend another year and a half in and out of the studio with no work to show for it lol

[kingchrisII]

they said many times they probably wouldnt play any new songs from the album, why are you so shocked we havent gotten any?

[comerelaxnow]

your not the least bit confused on whats going on?

[novanoto]

not really...i actually like the fact that they went in, recorded, laid some tracks down, then went out, cleared their minds on tour, then will go in after, with the energy still high from the tour. when we'll see it, who knows...but i have optimism that it'll be a good one...

[rconverse]

Not at all. I think everyone will be in for a HUGE surprise.

[kingchrisII]

im not worried at all, the songs there playing on the tour is irrelevant. the important quaestion is... do they sound good? and i believe this tour they sound better than they have in years. (fucking timmy is back)

[comerelaxnow]

well i hope you guys are right. im not trying to be negative. i have been away from the site for a while and was just confused by this tour alittle bit.

[rconverse]

im not worried at all, the songs there playing on the tour is irrelevant. the important quaestion is... do they sound good? and i believe this tour they sound better than they have in years. (fucking timmy is back)

So I have to admit. I wasn't all that stoked when I heard Timmy was going to be on tour (didn't really care for RR). That was when I also thought Butch was going to be there as well. Anyway, I was wrong. Timmy is great this tour and so is the band. I have been altering plans to see them more. Timmy is on the new CD, hence I am excited.

[dmb5570]

I was extremely worried as the tour came up and we still had no news at all. But we have had a bunch of interviews now that paint the picture that they did a lot of work, its just not finished yet. and they are purposefully trying to separate songs they play on the road(IOY, 27, cornbread, etc), from those that will grace the new album. Plus the energy and the sound from the guys this year is unbelievable, so all my anxiety is out the window.

[DMBNate23]

I would like to see some of the songs they play live make the new album though. I mean you've got Idea Of You, Shotgun, #27, Cornbread....also Break Free & Kill the King but they're pretty much dead.

[bibby1044]

Why would we be worried? They are currently tearing it up, and want to surprise us and have "new songs" and the Idea of You intro was obviously worked on in studio which I think is awesome, so I say stop worrying, enjoy the tour then we'll get a cd.

[bbarterjr]

Tonight was SOOOOOO disappointing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This set list is more of the same!! its pretty much the same bunch of songs that they've used in the previous 7 shows, hit shuffle, and added 2 pieces of shit (ODH, OOMH) and Proudest Monkey.

There is NOTHING new about any of it! I have been a fan for 10 years, and can honestly tell you that the boys seem to be getting complacent and lazy!!

There is no creativity, with so much talent on the stage, it was such a major disappointment to hear them rehash Two Step again!! And kill whatever energy you tried building by playing ODH & OOMH.

I am so disenchanted by what I saw last night.

I have 5 more shows to go this summer, and am beginning to regret dropping $1200 on this tour.. :(

[bibby1044]

Tonight was SOOOOOO disappointing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This set list is more of the same!! its pretty much the same bunch of songs that they've used in the previous 7 shows, hit shuffle, and added 2 pieces of shit (ODH, OOMH) and Proudest Monkey.

There is NOTHING new about any of it! I have been a fan for 10 years, and can honestly tell you that the boys seem to be getting complacent and lazy!!

There is no creativity, with so much talent on the stage, it was such a major disappointment to hear them rehash Two Step again!! And kill whatever energy you tried building by playing ODH & OOMH.

I am so disenchanted by what I saw last night.

I have 5 more shows to go this summer, and am beginning to regret dropping $1200 on this tour.. :(
Oh stop its one damn show, that wasnt even that bad, tonights going to be amazing, enjoy it.

[Sister]

Tonight was SOOOOOO disappointing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This set list is more of the same!! its pretty much the same bunch of songs that they've used in the previous 7 shows, hit shuffle, and added 2 pieces of shit (ODH, OOMH) and Proudest Monkey.

There is NOTHING new about any of it! I have been a fan for 10 years, and can honestly tell you that the boys seem to be getting complacent and lazy!!

There is no creativity, with so much talent on the stage, it was such a major disappointment to hear them rehash Two Step again!! And kill whatever energy you tried building by playing ODH & OOMH.

I am so disenchanted by what I saw last night.

I have 5 more shows to go this summer, and am beginning to regret dropping $1200 on this tour.. :(


I will be glad to take your place. PM me and I'll tell you where to send me your tix. I would have given $1200 just to to see Dave do OOMH on the piano last NIGHT.

[sdaltons]

Tonight was SOOOOOO disappointing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This set list is more of the same!! its pretty much the same bunch of songs that they've used in the previous 7 shows, hit shuffle, and added 2 pieces of shit (ODH, OOMH) and Proudest Monkey.

There is NOTHING new about any of it! I have been a fan for 10 years, and can honestly tell you that the boys seem to be getting complacent and lazy!!

There is no creativity, with so much talent on the stage, it was such a major disappointment to hear them rehash Two Step again!! And kill whatever energy you tried building by playing ODH & OOMH.

I am so disenchanted by what I saw last night.

I have 5 more shows to go this summer, and am beginning to regret dropping $1200 on this tour.. :(
seriously, whats wrong with some people?

[The Tom]

DMB never varies their sets enough to go to 6 shows. Sorry to say, I like the band as much as anyone, but my max is three. Of course...its always at the gorge, which is always the best three...but still six shows and you want to be amazed everytime? There are going to be nights where the band is 'going through the motions' its inevitable..

[Evans]

Be happy they haven't played any of the new songs, it seems once they do that you never get a studio release anymore! Byebye Shotgun it seems!

[dmb5570]

Tonight was SOOOOOO disappointing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This set list is more of the same!! its pretty much the same bunch of songs that they've used in the previous 7 shows, hit shuffle, and added 2 pieces of shit (ODH, OOMH) and Proudest Monkey.

There is NOTHING new about any of it! I have been a fan for 10 years, and can honestly tell you that the boys seem to be getting complacent and lazy!!

There is no creativity, with so much talent on the stage, it was such a major disappointment to hear them rehash Two Step again!! And kill whatever energy you tried building by playing ODH & OOMH.

I am so disenchanted by what I saw last night.

I have 5 more shows to go this summer, and am beginning to regret dropping $1200 on this tour.. :(

What is wrong wtih you? I am all for opinions, but yours is based in absolutely nothing. Complacent and lazy?? seriously. They brought tim in and now butch is gone and they sound better than they have in a long long time. roi is tearing it up again and they are trying out new things(ants intro, crush solo), they have brought back some oldies. Some people just cant be satisfied.

[cherone21]

What is wrong wtih you? I am all for opinions, but yours is based in absolutely nothing. Complacent and lazy?? seriously. They brought tim in and now butch is gone and they sound better than they have in a long long time. roi is tearing it up again and they are trying out new things(ants intro, crush solo), they have brought back some oldies. Some people just cant be satisfied.

Right on. That guy must not have seen a show yet. They are awesome right now.

[cherone21]

Be happy they haven't played any of the new songs, it seems once they do that you never get a studio release anymore! Byebye Shotgun it seems!

No, I just think shotgun is going to be so different when the album comes out and they don't want to ruin the surprise of how complex and amazing it is.

[BigEyedFerg]

Be happy they haven't played any of the new songs, it seems once they do that you never get a studio release anymore! Byebye Shotgun it seems!

Dave has said there is a distinction between songs they play live and songs on the album... the more I think about it, Shotgun could very well be gearing up to be the crowning piece of the new album. Some have even speculated that the studio video we got could potentially be some kind of reworked Shotgun intro. I'm open to all the possibilities, and after tonight where they opened with Bartender and closed with freaking Cornbread, anything is fuckin' possible

And Can't Stop just Can't Die :BANG

[bibby1044]

No, I just think shotgun is going to be so different when the album comes out and they don't want to ruin the surprise of how complex and amazing it is.
:thumbsup :thumbsup thats it.

[bibby1044]

Dave has said there is a distinction between songs they play live and songs on the album... the more I think about it, Shotgun could very well be gearing up to be the crowning piece of the new album. Some have even speculated that the studio video we got could potentially be some kind of reworked Shotgun intro. I'm open to all the possibilities, and after tonight where they opened with Bartender and closed with freaking Cornbread, anything is fuckin' possible

And Can't Stop just Can't Die :BANG
Its ok man, the set was still dank and the encore could have been much worse, like my 2nd show scranton 06, cant stop...bayou.

[sir iggius]

that is the problem with a lot of fans on this site. they go to their show(s) and expect every song to be rare and amazing. Honestly, for the most part, you are lucky to hear one rare song for a concert.

[dmb5570]

im honestly more excited than ive been in a long long time. i was a little nervous as the tour started and we werent getting any info, but this tour has been amazing so far, so hopefully that can carry to the studio to finish off this album.

[Kook]

i'm a bit worried for shotgun.

it's the one track i think would translate beautifully to an album (wether it's a carbon copy of the live performance, or slightly altered like the studio two step - either or any way would sound goooood).

this tour feels very different. it's almost like the band is hiding material from us. and i think they have every reason to. if they road tested the new, UNFINISHED songs again (like 04 and 06) we would jump on them like bums on a baloney sandwich and then critique the living shit out of them to no end. from a creative standpoint, i can see how that could break your will. you test an IDEA for a song and get slammed for it. that's a tough way to work. you know the song might have something special in it, and are struggling to capture it - but it's too late. you're unfinished idea has already been rejected by 1 million pissy fans who bitch n' moan about every little detail and desire constant new, amazing material.

when songs like seek up, drive in drive out and two step were born in a basement and brought to life in a small, smokey bar, they were ignored at first by the few patrons. to test songs back then meant nothing. if a song was shit, they could play around with it until something caught or drop it completely with little or no expectations. some songs slowly grew into powerhouses as the crowds grew alongside them. that's not exactly the case now. the band can't create and test music like they used to, no matter how hard they want to try. they've accepted this, we haven't.

i am worried, but i feel they've got their hearts in the right place. the moment they try to guess what we want is the moment the band dies. from the interviews, the videos and everything we've heard about this album covered in shroud, it sounds like the band is grabbing the opportunity by the horns. everything in the past 5 years has felt wishy-washy - from the casual interviews about toying with new songs on the road to playing around in the studio. now they are saying they won't test the songs. basically, telling us we're going to have to wait. and then boldly saying that some of those songs don't belong on the album and should only exist live. it feels like they have a sense of direction again.

i love shotgun, but if they scrap the studio cut for the greater album i'm fine with it. just as long as it gets played live and not forgotten.

[comerelaxnow]

i'm a bit worried for shotgun.

it's the one track i think would translate beautifully to an album (wether it's a carbon copy of the live performance, or slightly altered like the studio two step - either or any way would sound goooood).

this tour feels very different. it's almost like the band is hiding material from us. and i think they have every reason to. if they road tested the new, UNFINISHED songs again (like 04 and 06) we would jump on them like bums on a baloney sandwich and then critique the living shit out of them to no end. from a creative standpoint, i can see how that could break your will. you test an IDEA for a song and get slammed for it. that's a tough way to work. you know the song might have something special in it, and are struggling to capture it - but it's too late. you're unfinished idea has already been rejected by 1 million pissy fans who bitch n' moan about every little detail and desire constant new, amazing material.

when songs like seek up, drive in drive out and two step were born in a basement and brought to life in a small, smokey bar, they were ignored at first by the few patrons. to test songs back then meant nothing. if a song was shit, they could play around with it until something caught or drop it completely with little or no expectations. some songs slowly grew into powerhouses as the crowds grew alongside them. that's not exactly the case now. the band can't create and test music like they used to, no matter how hard they want to try. they've accepted this, we haven't.

i am worried, but i feel they've got their hearts in the right place. the moment they try to guess what we want is the moment the band dies. from the interviews, the videos and everything we've heard about this album covered in shroud, it sounds like the band is grabbing the opportunity by the horns. everything in the past 5 years has felt wishy-washy - from the casual interviews about toying with new songs on the road to playing around in the studio. now they are saying they won't test the songs. basically, telling us we're going to have to wait. and then boldly saying that some of those songs don't belong on the album and should only exist live. it feels like they have a sense of direction again.

i love shotgun, but if they scrap the studio cut for the greater album i'm fine with it. just as long as it gets played live and not forgotten.

well said!! :thumbsup

[dre2142]

that this cd is not going to be very good? for some reason with the start of this tour and how weird everything really is i just don't have a good feeling about it anymore. what are they waiting for? where are any new songs? not even one? a tease of one? i seems like all of their time went into all the new cover songs and trying new things with songs they already had and then brushing up on some Dave and Friends songs.

maybe butch had a huge part on the new cd and they are kinda stuck now??? i doubt that

Theyve all stated that they wouldnt be playing any new songs.

[bibby1044]

i'm a bit worried for shotgun.

it's the one track i think would translate beautifully to an album (wether it's a carbon copy of the live performance, or slightly altered like the studio two step - either or any way would sound goooood).

this tour feels very different. it's almost like the band is hiding material from us. and i think they have every reason to. if they road tested the new, UNFINISHED songs again (like 04 and 06) we would jump on them like bums on a baloney sandwich and then critique the living shit out of them to no end. from a creative standpoint, i can see how that could break your will. you test an IDEA for a song and get slammed for it. that's a tough way to work. you know the song might have something special in it, and are struggling to capture it - but it's too late. you're unfinished idea has already been rejected by 1 million pissy fans who bitch n' moan about every little detail and desire constant new, amazing material.

when songs like seek up, drive in drive out and two step were born in a basement and brought to life in a small, smokey bar, they were ignored at first by the few patrons. to test songs back then meant nothing. if a song was shit, they could play around with it until something caught or drop it completely with little or no expectations. some songs slowly grew into powerhouses as the crowds grew alongside them. that's not exactly the case now. the band can't create and test music like they used to, no matter how hard they want to try. they've accepted this, we haven't.

i am worried, but i feel they've got their hearts in the right place. the moment they try to guess what we want is the moment the band dies. from the interviews, the videos and everything we've heard about this album covered in shroud, it sounds like the band is grabbing the opportunity by the horns. everything in the past 5 years has felt wishy-washy - from the casual interviews about toying with new songs on the road to playing around in the studio. now they are saying they won't test the songs. basically, telling us we're going to have to wait. and then boldly saying that some of those songs don't belong on the album and should only exist live. it feels like they have a sense of direction again.

i love shotgun, but if they scrap the studio cut for the greater album i'm fine with it. just as long as it gets played live and not forgotten.
:thumbsup good post, I agree with everything except, I think we havnt heard Shotgun for that purpose, because its undergone significant changes and is being saved for the album.

[MistreatedLewis]

The revival of Can't Stop is never good news for an upcoming DMB album...

[raid24]

Roi seems to be happy this year and playing with some passion - i think thats a good sign...... ( trying to be optimistic)

[dre2142]

Not worried at all.

[DancingNanc05]

Very strange vibe this whole year it seems. From the covers to the shitty comebacks they keep busting out (Cant stop, ODH, etc.) I just cant get a grasp of what they are doing. Still optimistic though and Toyota Park was an excellent time. I guess we will see

[antsofcourse]

It has been a while since I have posted on any of these threads - but it is all coming back to me as to why: the whining...the complaining... the attitude that these guys play for the paycheck so therefore they should please everyone other than themselves... Oh & of course there are those who b!tch, moan, & groan after only viewing a setlist on paper (:confused )

Perhaps I am the odd one, but I have yet to attend a "bad" show... true, when one attends many over the years, some shows/setlists are better than others, but I have never walked out of a venue feeling like I wasted money - I am happy to see & hear them each & every time - it is sooo good for my soul...

Relax, enjoy the summer & just listen for listening's sake...

[The Tom]

It has been a while since I have posted on any of these threads - but it is all coming back to me as to why: the whining...the complaining... the attitude that these guys play for the paycheck so therefore they should please everyone other than themselves... Oh & of course there are those who b!tch, moan, & groan after only viewing a setlist on paper (:confused )

Perhaps I am the odd one, but I have yet to attend a "bad" show... true, when one attends many over the years, some shows/setlists are better than others, but I have never walked out of a venue feeling like I wasted money - I am happy to see & hear them each & every time - it is sooo good for my soul...

Relax, enjoy the summer & just listen for listening's sake...

Whenever I have left a show dissapointed its not because of the band or setlist, but of the people I was 'fortunate' enough to be seated next to.

[antsofcourse]

Whenever I have left a show dissapointed its not because of the band or setlist, but of the people I was 'fortunate' enough to be seated next to.

I feel your pain... for Hartford N1 we had a ridiculously drunk girl (probably mid 20's) who was creating such a havoc amongst the row she was in, the row in front of her & the row behind her (spilling beer on everyone, conveniently forgetting where her seat was) - her boyfriend was embarrased, but he was a complete d!ck when the others pointed it out to him - it took the threat of security to have him pull her out...

[The Tom]

I feel your pain... for Hartford N1 we had a ridiculously drunk girl (probably mid 20's) who was creating such a havoc amongst the row she was in, the row in front of her & the row behind her (spilling beer on everyone, conveniently forgetting where her seat was) - her boyfriend was embarrased, but he was a complete d!ck when the others pointed it out to him - it took the threat of security to have him pull her out...


At the gorge a few years ago we were sitting about 20th row and the wench in front of us decided since she couldn't see very well she was going to stand on her chair. Well... shit started getting thrown from the people behind us, and when my wife asked her to get down, she called her a stupid *C*, the wife then started kicking her chair to try to make her fall... Security finally came in and told her to stand on the floor or leave.

[antsofcourse]

At the gorge a few years ago we were sitting about 20th row and the wench in front of us decided since she couldn't see very well she was going to stand on her chair. Well... shit started getting thrown from the people behind us, and when my wife asked her to get down, she called her a stupid *C*, the wife then started kicking her chair to try to make her fall... Security finally came in and told her to stand on the floor or leave.

OMG - your wife ROCKS (not that I am for any sort of violence, but that is funny sh!t... good for her!)

I swear, I am an odd duck, but I really love the shows... it is a good escape for me (from work etc) - I meet up with boat-loads of folks that have crossed my path because of the tours & we just listen for listening's sake - no speculating, no whining, no moaning - we just take it all in & enjoy it...

Cheers!
Enjoy your Sunday!
;o)j~

[born 1991]

The revival of Can't Stop is never good news for an upcoming DMB album...

Maybe they're intentionally not playing the songs on it. Like Busted Stuff, it'll be released like halfway through the tour. Then they'll start playing the songs that are on it. So maybe that means Can't Stop, Cornbread, and IOY won't be on it, and Break Free, Shotgun, and KTK will... Just wishful thinking I guess.

[bibby1044]

I think Shotgun has the greatest chance followed by Cornbread and IOY.

[silvermaroon]

The truth is I am pretty worried about this tour. Every cover they've reinvented sounds amazing and I am happy to see some full band D&F songs on the road but it feels to me like I can totally foresee what the band will play whenI see them in a week. I'm really hoping they pull out something new and surprise us all midtour whether it be a new song or a wicked old gem. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Whatever happens, I am prepared for a crazy show with Timmy (and sadly no Bruce) in Mansfield and hopefully Michael Franti will through in some cool freestyles during the DMB set.

Break Free please come back your're so much better than Can't Stop

[solsburyhill]

The truth is I am pretty worried about this tour. Every cover they've reinvented sounds amazing and I am happy to see some full band D&F songs on the road but it feels to me like I can totally foresee what the band will play whenI see them in a week. I'm really hoping they pull out something new and surprise us all midtour whether it be a new song or a wicked old gem. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Whatever happens, I am prepared for a crazy show with Timmy (and sadly no Bruce) in Mansfield and hopefully Michael Franti will through in some cool freestyles during the DMB set.

Break Free please come back your're so much better than Can't Stop

not happy with recently, pfwyg, water/wine, possibility of say goodbye and kit kat jam?

[CamCam176]

I don't remember where but Dave said they have enough material for like 4+ albums.

[comerelaxnow]

I don't remember where but Dave said they have enough material for like 4+ albums.

i heard that too. its got to be hard for them too to not just play them. i bet they are excited too

[dmb5570]

i heard that too. its got to be hard for them too to not just play them. i bet they are excited too


they have a ton of material, or so dave says, but its not finished material. AND dave is trying to keep separate songs on the album from stuff they play live(cant stop, IOY, cornbread, etc). they have road tested a lot in the last few years, i think they are actually going to try to surprise us with this album.

[Caveat Emperor]

The revival of Can't Stop is never good news for an upcoming DMB album...

Given how the last few albums have worked, the odds of a song making the album decrease exponentially when it gets played ahead of the release date.

If they're playing Can't Stop now, the safe bet is that its not going to be on the album. See: Crazy-Easy, Joyride, Good Good Time.

[dmblars39]

The truth is I am pretty worried about this tour. Every cover they've reinvented sounds amazing and I am happy to see some full band D&F songs on the road but it feels to me like I can totally foresee what the band will play whenI see them in a week. I'm really hoping they pull out something new and surprise us all midtour whether it be a new song or a wicked old gem. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Whatever happens, I am prepared for a crazy show with Timmy (and sadly no Bruce) in Mansfield and hopefully Michael Franti will through in some cool freestyles during the DMB set.

Break Free please come back your're so much better than Can't Stop

don't you mean butch?

[mariocarton]

i think they've made it clear that they don't want this to be like some of their other cd's where most of their songs have been heard before the cd came out

They want the cd to come out where people are excited to hear new music and they seem to be happy with taking it slow to produce the best stuff possible
...anyway, no worries all will be well in the end

[silvermaroon]

yeah i meant butch, i love the guy

[BigEyedFerg]

From the covers to the shitty comebacks they keep busting out (Pay For What You Get, Recently, Water/Wine, Proudest Monkey, Say Goodbye and KKJ soundchecked)

Yup, those are some shitty ass comebacks...not to mention the band sounds fucking badass with Timmy. What the hell is wrong with this band. They're going to shit... :freak

Seriously, everyone needs to rethink their bitching about this tour. It'll be over before you know it and all you'll have to look back upon is a summer's worth of bitching.

[megntrav]

I think some people just like to complain.
I live on the West Coast and only have caught tid bits of stuff on you tube and I have to say that I love the cover songs and I love Tim being on tour with them. I think he add's a lot to it and gives them a great new sound despite Butch missing(he is missed). I do think everyone is in for a surprise and a new turn with the band. I can feel it. I will see them Labor day weekend at the Gorge and am totally stoked.
I think people need to sit back, shut their mouths and just wait. They're a phenomenon and they will deliver.
I also have been a fan for years and have seen them play 6 years in a row at the Gorge. I wouldn't trade that weekend for anything in life. I would put it first on my priority of trips!
People ... shut your butt. Quit your complaining and wait. All their music is excellent, particularly live. What's your problem? Oh they didn't put out a cd when I want? Or they didn't play the songs I wanted to hear?
I waited 5 YEARS to hear satelitte live & 6 YEARS to hear gravedigger live.
It was worth it.

[bibby1044]

Nobody should be worried.

The band seems to be getting into some creative flow, with adding the intro to IOY, which is awesome by the way, and Roi and Rashawns newly added jam lick on Cornbread.

After having these 2 days off im sure we will only continue to get more out of them with the practice time they have.

[sonofsuns34]

if you are worried listen to SDL from 6/14 that will ease your mind

[bibby1044]

if you are worried listen to SDL from 6/14 that will ease your mind
:thumbsup

[solsburyhill]

or water/wine

[DJGeneral]

I am not worried at all.

[RobRoy286]

Yup, those are some shitty ass comebacks...not to mention the band sounds fucking badass with Timmy. What the hell is wrong with this band. They're going to shit... :freak

Seriously, everyone needs to rethink their bitching about this tour. It'll be over before you know it and all you'll have to look back upon is a summer's worth of bitching.get off your high horse already. the songs he mentioned are indeed shitty, and they are indeed comebacks.

[BigEyedFerg]

^Some comebacks have been shitty, but others have been amazing. Why focus on the shitty ones?

[Pakennedy]

i'd like to see SUAD make a couple solid cameos like last year. I want that on the album.

[bibby1044]

i'd like to see SUAD make a couple solid cameos like last year. I want that on the album.
I think it could be a good single, but so could IOY and Cornbread.

[BigEyedFerg]

i'd like to see SUAD make a couple solid cameos like last year. I want that on the album.


I was thrilled to see it return, but IOY or Cornbread's style would fit in much more fluidly with the band's current direction that they seem to be taking. SUAD came across as somewhat forced to me

[csumghtditryin]

Honestly if they stop playing granny pay for and recently because you guys are bitchin i will be thoroughly pissed! I would die to see those songs at alpine this year which is where i'm headed from Columbus ohio so if anyone who needs a ride carpool or whatever ive got a spot open. stein.ericr@gmail.com

[DMBraven41]

seriously, Pay for what you get and recently kick ass....there is no need to be worried. This album will dominate, and whether or not they are all new songs will be irrelevant. I'm pumped...the only thing I'm possibly worried about is how long it will take to finish up the album with Mr. Moore's injury and all

[bibby1044]

seriously, Pay for what you get and recently kick ass....there is no need to be worried. This album will dominate, and whether or not they are all new songs will be irrelevant. I'm pumped...the only thing I'm possibly worried about is how long it will take to finish up the album with Mr. Moore's injury and all
More tim just means better lyrics though, to me anyway.

[Geoff8]

I would love to see Dave switch his setlist up more often but won't criticize him for his choices either. Maybe he will figure it out eventually that when people go "on tour" with a band they want to hear different stuff night to night.

[sdaltons]

I would love to see Dave switch his setlist up more often but won't criticize him for his choices either. Maybe he will figure it out eventually that when people go "on tour" with a band they want to hear different stuff night to night.
:lol

and who makes up a bigger portion of the audience? the people you describe or the people who heard DMB on the radio and decided to see them at the local show? i'll help you: the answer is the latter.

thats why the sets are the way they are, which, for the record, involves much MUCH more variation then other similar acts.

[Branty]

I'm not worried

[bphlzl]

What does everyone think about the possibility of the band finding another producer besides Cavallo? The only reason I ask is it seems weird that they released that studio video, raising excitement, and then basically decide to wait like 5 months. Maybe he wasn't the guy? I'm pretty sure they want to get this right - but a successful album can usually be written and recorded in a couple of months. Or maybe he is the guy they want... maybe they are further along than we know. Just bored and wanted to see if anyone had some thoughts since this is an off week.

[smerrill]

Butch is out, Roi's laid up, and Tim's on the road with the guys. Why should we as fans expect anything but different this year? I know it's diggin at ya'll about the new album, but seriously RELAX! LOL. With all of the changes this tour, we should all be greatful. Yeah it may get "boring" to some of you that have laid out over a $1000 for tickets this year, but a lot of us can only afford one concert when you add in time off work, time away from family, gas money, tickets, merch, and possible alcohol :D .

Stay connected to the real world. Be happy that you were able to attend this year! Be thankful that you've gotten the opportunity to see a different lineup. This year is my fifth year. AND I'm PSYCHED about seein' Tim with the guys!!

Point blank, Dave, Stefan, LeRoi, Carter, and Boyd blow us all away EVERYTIME they hit the stage!! The album WILL come out. Just sit back, relax and grab a margarita......the shows about to start!

See ya'll at Alpine!

[arizza11]

How can you say your worried...DMB is DMB no matter what they write. I'm the fan that can listen to any song any time and it doesn't matter what song it is. Sure you have your favorites and least favorites, but if the band is playing it's going to be good music.

[crawfish]

As much is I love these guys it seems to me that they really need some direction. They make such a freaking big deal out of making albums. They start making one and then they stop. They play good songs then scrap them. I'm starting to think that they may never put out another album.

[laidbak_bb]

How can you say your worried...DMB is DMB no matter what they write. I'm the fan that can listen to any song any time and it doesn't matter what song it is. Sure you have your favorites and least favorites, but if the band is playing it's going to be good music.

i am that type of fan as well. i get really sick of the current tour boards with all the complaining. i have NEVER taken a piss break or gone to get a freaking beer while the band was on stage. some of us have to relish the one or two chances we get to see a show each summer, so not being grateful for every song is absurd.

and worried is the last emotion i have towards the new album.

[randumox56]

worried?? let's just say the only thing i'm currently "worried" about is the health of leroi moore... fuck the new album fuck everything else

btw I'm with you laidbak... I train holding my piss after drinking a case of beer just so I don't miss a single moment and I'm proud of it! hahaha

[mwheeler21]

It has been a while since I have posted on any of these threads - but it is all coming back to me as to why: the whining...the complaining... the attitude that these guys play for the paycheck so therefore they should please everyone other than themselves... Oh & of course there are those who b!tch, moan, & groan after only viewing a setlist on paper (:confused )

Perhaps I am the odd one, but I have yet to attend a "bad" show... true, when one attends many over the years, some shows/setlists are better than others, but I have never walked out of a venue feeling like I wasted money - I am happy to see & hear them each & every time - it is sooo good for my soul...

Relax, enjoy the summer & just listen for listening's sake...




:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup fuckin' right man....



:monkey

[RobRoy286]

More tim just means better lyrics though, to me anyway.Well with more time - Cornbread, IOY, and Shotgun all decreased in lyrical quality.

[timgengler]

Well with more time - Cornbread, IOY, and Shotgun all decreased in lyrical quality.


wrong... cornbread is bad-ass now!!!

the others... maybe

[ndiggity67]

I am getting worried that this cd may never come out at all, due to leroi

[born 1991]

I am getting worried that this cd may never come out at all, due to leroi

I'm sure it'll still come out. The question is... Will Leroi be on it?

[arizza11]

i am that type of fan as well. i get really sick of the current tour boards with all the complaining. i have NEVER taken a piss break or gone to get a freaking beer while the band was on stage. some of us have to relish the one or two chances we get to see a show each summer, so not being grateful for every song is absurd.

and worried is the last emotion i have towards the new album.

I'll piss on the ground before I leave to take a piss while they are playing....I'll stay sober so I dont have to miss anything by goin to get a drink.

[jaking1185]

As much as I love this band, and look forward to the new album, I wonder if the band is in the process of changing from a relevant band to a "nostalgia" band?

[eatdrink&B]

I'm sure it'll still come out. The question is... Will Leroi be on it?

I can't imagine them making an album without Leroi! It could be delayed, though :(

[firedancer45]

i dont think he wants to release the songs on tour prior to the album. he is going to do it differently this time and its gonna blow us away

[RobRoy286]

wrong... cornbread is bad-ass now!!!

the others... maybeCornbread is not "bad-ass" right now, it has become an embarrassment lyrically.

(ya'll gots) to give you love
and jump off from the darkness (of)
and the best one up the light you dark
cause the joy is steeped in sin
the old man, he come running 'round here looking for the sinner who took his baby
and i'm gonna tell you that it was me and the joy was steeped in sin

That's from 8.4.2007, which I believe was the first full band Cornbread. Not really a masterpiece, but much better than this year's...

Seen you there behind the miller's shed
with that dirty little boy you givin' him head
YEAH YEAH!! know you love me
YEAH YEAH!! i know you love me
YEAH YEAH!! KNOW I love you, joy is steeped in sin

[aw625]

Yeah, that know you love me crap has been a part of why the song has been ruined for me.

[bluewater4041]

This may be a little out there, and i am most likely wrong but i have to throw it out there....due to daves age and now more family oreintated mantality, do you think the songs that he used to write were a product of his surroundings, mainly life on the road through all four seasons and berly ever a break, also part of that included drug use which is known to spark creativity. Due you think his reduction of drug use has not impared or ruined his material, but definalty has affected it.

[RobRoy286]

I don't think Dave is writing shitty DMB songs as of late, I think DMB is writing shitty DMB songs as of late. In the early days, most of the songs had been previously written by Dave, and they figured out how to add more instruments to the songs. I just think Dave is having trouble writing songs with DMB because he can't find parts for the rest of the band. He needs a new environment to write with (like his Some Devil band making a very solid album). Hopefully with Tim in the studio, songwriting will be better.

[bigeyedfish190]

^^Agreed. When he's on his own, he's at his best. Everyday added Ballard to the writing mix, Stand Up added the whole band and batson for much of it, and both were failures by comparison to the older albums, in terms of writing. Some Devil had a few co-written tracks that were done really well: Grey Blue Eyes, So Damn Lucky, and Trouble. I think he just needs the band to step in sometimes, but certainly not all the time.

[ashesr]

Honestly, im not worried. When they do ever come out with a new cd i wont expect old DMB, lets face it they arent as young as they were when they started and people change they've changed. My thoughts true fans are going to like what ever they come out with, sure it might not be their favorite but they will appreciate it. We all want old DMB but lets think of how busy these guys are, they tour a lot so we the fans can be happy and they put up awesome shows/sets for us and they have families and lives. When they are ready to sit down and make new records they will, until then we can enjoy what we have and rock out at the concerts! :)

[Crazy#41]

that this cd is not going to be very good? for some reason with the start of this tour and how weird everything really is i just don't have a good feeling about it anymore. what are they waiting for? where are any new songs? not even one? a tease of one? i seems like all of their time went into all the new cover songs and trying new things with songs they already had and then brushing up on some Dave and Friends songs.

maybe butch had a huge part on the new cd and they are kinda stuck now??? i doubt that

Then why bring it up...

[LowEnd_Theory]

Cornbread is not "bad-ass" right now, it has become an embarrassment lyrically.

Seen you there behind the miller's shed
with that dirty little boy you givin' him head
YEAH YEAH!! know you love me
YEAH YEAH!! i know you love me
YEAH YEAH!! KNOW I love you, joy is steeped in sin

:lorraine

[Geoff8]

:lol

and who makes up a bigger portion of the audience? the people you describe or the people who heard DMB on the radio and decided to see them at the local show? i'll help you: the answer is the latter.

thats why the sets are the way they are, which, for the record, involves much MUCH more variation then other similar acts.


True but the people who come and see Dave yaer after year want to see different songs every night.

[heavenmyfriend]

just like dave said at weekend at the rocks 06, THEY'LL PLAY WHAT THEY WANT TO! be satisfied!!!!!!! as long as they're still touring and still loving what they do, i think we should be happy. they're mixing things up with alot sweet covers, im not a huge fan of remaking a classic pink floyd song, but its dmb...im so sick of people complaining because dmb didnt play the songs that they wanted them to play

of course we want a new album, that'd be great to have some more material, the way i look at it the more live stuff they put out with these new tracks whats the rush to throw together a studio album??? let it come when it comes, we all fell in love with a band for doing what they do best, live music!

think of how many times you actually listen to a studio album??? for maybe 3 months after the release and then we have live material to enjoy.

LET THE BAND PLAY WHAT THEY WANT. when we as fans demand so much and have an expectation, im sure it hurts the magic for the band...its a POP mindframe to expect the band to serve us and wishes, let the band do what they feel is best for them

[sully51]

just like dave said at weekend at the rocks 06, THEY'LL PLAY WHAT THEY WANT TO! be satisfied!!!!!!! as long as they're still touring and still loving what they do, i think we should be happy. they're mixing things up with alot sweet covers, im not a huge fan of remaking a classic pink floyd song, but its dmb...im so sick of people complaining because dmb didnt play the songs that they wanted them to play

of course we want a new album, that'd be great to have some more material, the way i look at it the more live stuff they put out with these new tracks whats the rush to throw together a studio album??? let it come when it comes, we all fell in love with a band for doing what they do best, live music!

think of how many times you actually listen to a studio album??? for maybe 3 months after the release and then we have live material to enjoy.

LET THE BAND PLAY WHAT THEY WANT. when we as fans demand so much and have an expectation, im sure it hurts the magic for the band...its a POP mindframe to expect the band to serve us and wishes, let the band do what they feel is best for them

I listen to the studio albums all the time.. Especially Crash. That album is perfection, I can never get over all the little things that make it so great

[TwoStep2888]

I'm still optimistic, especially if Tim is involved.

[cryfreedom4136]

I am not worried, because I came to realize a few months ago that this album is never going to come out

[stro41]

DMB never varies their sets enough to go to 6 shows. Sorry to say, I like the band as much as anyone, but my max is three. Of course...its always at the gorge, which is always the best three...but still six shows and you want to be amazed everytime? There are going to be nights where the band is 'going through the motions' its inevitable..


Decent post up until where you say going through the motions, i guarantee you they do not go through the "motions". serioulsy?? you see each and EVERY band member smiling the whole night giving everything they got, they do not take one song off, i dont know how you can use that statement..

[ndiggity67]

how are they going to release this anytime soon if Leroi is out indefinately?

[LowEnd_Theory]

think of how many times you actually listen to a studio album??? for maybe 3 months after the release and then we have live material to enjoy.

:ugh you dont think people still dont listen to UTTAD, Crash, BTCS, etc still? I know I listen to UTTAD more than any DMB disc I own.

[SlateDMB]

DMB never varies their sets enough to go to 6 shows. Sorry to say, I like the band as much as anyone, but my max is three. Of course...its always at the gorge, which is always the best three...but still six shows and you want to be amazed everytime? There are going to be nights where the band is 'going through the motions' its inevitable..

I've been going to see Dave since '98 and there have been tours where I've seen 6-8 shows and ones where I've seen 2. But the best way to catch this band is 3 times a year and different parts of the tour.

I try to see them within the first part of the tour, but usually not in the first 5-10 shows. Only for BTCS and Everyday did I go to the first show of the tour (because the album just came out or was a week away). The Roanoke show was a great set. Got my one and only Typical so far.

Catch them about three weeks in...then in the middle...and then another at the end of the tour. You hit all the different waves of setlist the band puts out. And as you go to more shows, and if you've been in Columbia, SC or Mississippi for most of the time you've been seeing shows (and they don't come nearer than ATL) then you learn to make trips to the tour hot spots. Busch Stadium and Memphis seem like big stops for the band this tour and Busch Stadium was a rocking show for being so close to the beginning of the tour. This show in Ohio coming up is a generic DMB stop every year, not that they will go through the motions, but you certainly shouldn't expect suprises.

Personally, I can still see DMB 6 times a year and have no problem with whatever they play. I go for the music, sure...but moreso I go because it's my favorite place to be. Every part of it is great! Send me your drunken teenagers, your spaced-out shroomers, your fighting couples, your pissed-at-everyone-else patrons, your jokers, smokers, and mid-set tokers, your epilleptic dancers, and your non-stop chanters...I have no problem with any of you.

Just don't piss on the lawn...there is no reason not to take a bathroom run. You're not watching the goddamn moon-landing

[jd2107]

People bitch as if it is DMB's job to write good music instead of them performing the music they create because they like to do it and share it with all of us. Who cares if its not BTCS or crash quality if your a true fan you enjoy the experience of being at a live concert because of the energy they put into there music. If you dont like the new album when it comes out DONT BUY IT. I dont care if it takes them another 3 years for a new album i'd rather have them put there heart and soul into a new album enjoy making it and be happy with what there making. Not like some bullshit bands that are signed to 5 album's in 5 year contracts. Chill out people DMB is a privelage not a right.


Peace, Love, and DMB

[hobbesthecat]

DMB sold out when they re-signed.

and without albums, bands would not have the start up power to sell out venues.

the band is going downhill fast in the studio.

[bigeyedfish190]

DMB sold out when they re-signed.

.

I'm not disputing whether or not they've sold out, but I don't know if resigning was a sell out move. Does anyone know the details of the current contract? I mean, if they got the deal they wanted, then why not sign? They obviously are allowed whatever time they need to complete an album. Does anyone know if they lost the rights to their songs? Do they pick the producer?

I think it really depends on the details of the contract.

[phunky420]

Cornbread is not "bad-ass" right now, it has become an embarrassment lyrically.

(ya'll gots) to give you love
and jump off from the darkness (of)
and the best one up the light you dark
cause the joy is steeped in sin
the old man, he come running 'round here looking for the sinner who took his baby
and i'm gonna tell you that it was me and the joy was steeped in sin

That's from 8.4.2007, which I believe was the first full band Cornbread. Not really a masterpiece, but much better than this year's...

Seen you there behind the miller's shed
with that dirty little boy you givin' him head
YEAH YEAH!! know you love me
YEAH YEAH!! i know you love me
YEAH YEAH!! KNOW I love you, joy is steeped in sin

Maybe i'm just a dirty old man, but i like those lyrics :)

[Faz#41]

those lyrcis are awweeesome hahahaha

[hobbesthecat]

they could have went with the Dave's ATO or what ever company it is...but they went with more money and easier route via BMG or whomever

i feel unfortunately it's simple black and white and they sold out

[KillerBunny]

Tonight was SOOOOOO disappointing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This set list is more of the same!! its pretty much the same bunch of songs that they've used in the previous 7 shows, hit shuffle, and added 2 pieces of shit (ODH, OOMH) and Proudest Monkey.

There is NOTHING new about any of it! I have been a fan for 10 years, and can honestly tell you that the boys seem to be getting complacent and lazy!!

There is no creativity, with so much talent on the stage, it was such a major disappointment to hear them rehash Two Step again!! And kill whatever energy you tried building by playing ODH & OOMH.

I am so disenchanted by what I saw last night.

I have 5 more shows to go this summer, and am beginning to regret dropping $1200 on this tour.. :(

Have a fuckin' cry mate I couldn't even get to the USA to see 1 show for less then 2200 bucks at the moment. Count yourself lucky as fk that you live in the USA... tours are FEW AND FAR BETWEEN FFS