Live Trax 13? Any predicitions?

[FSUant212]

After going to both nights at WPB, there is so much energy in this tour it is ridiculous. I would be so upset if it wasn't immortalized in CD, if it does happen, what show do you think will get it?

I'd really like to have some of the covers on it also, such as sledgehammer, thank you and Money--->That's what I want...

Any thoughts?

[FunkyTeaParty41]

Spac n2 or Busch

[bustdstuff]

WPB would be a cool release since there weren't any repeats. But, I have to admit I don't like The Beatles cover. It just doesn't fit to me. And, they are yet to release a two night stand. (If I'm remembering correctly. I don't own the LT releases)

[dreamingtreeIU]

deer creek this year...

[FunkyTeaParty41]

deer creek this year...
:thumbsup :thumbsup:thumbsup

[41 Step]

12.3.98

[RobRoy286]

WPB would be a cool release since there weren't any repeats. But, I have to admit I don't like The Beatles cover. It just doesn't fit to me. And, they are yet to release a two night stand. (If I'm remembering correctly. I don't own the LT releases)nahhh they got fenway.

[RobRoy286]

From the shows played so far, I'd go with Busch. It's got Crush. SPAC N2 doesn't. A 2008 Crush must be released.

[rbo322]

they also have the vegas shows

but i liek the vault live trax way more than like newer releases that i usually have from bootleg but if i had to choose i would want spac or wpb i really dug that show

[FSUant212]

Umm, WPB had crush, #41 and no repeat of cornbread...

Not to mention all the funky covers he has been playing, and I honestly believe the version of Ants at WPB was the best I've ever heard!

The wrap up of N1 was just too sick, sugar will, #41, everyday, jimi thing, grey street, and then ants? There was so much fuckin energy it was crazy....

[spoot388]

how about we wait until the end of the tour to see what show should be released? theres still like 20 shows they have to play. who knows what else they're going to pull out before the end of the tour.

[spoot388]

From the shows played so far, I'd go with Busch. It's got Crush. SPAC N2 doesn't. A 2008 Crush must be released.


Correction, a 2008 TWO STEP must be released. There is no way a show should be released when it is missing the best song of the tour.

[berman1125]

From the shows played so far, I'd go with Busch. It's got Crush. SPAC N2 doesn't. A 2008 Crush must be released.


righto!

[berman1125]

Correction, a 2008 TWO STEP must be released. There is no way a show should be released when it is missing the best song of the tour.


right, and busch can argue for having one of the best two steps all year:thumbsup

[FSUant212]

If what you say is true, then that makes me bummed. The WPB two step encore was good, but not its best, although the LLD tease was tight...

[jiggajm18]

this thread sucks....

[jammasterjustin]

the next live trax will deffinatelly not be from this tour...

[ticklemedougo]

how about we wait until the end of the tour to see what show should be released? theres still like 20 shows they have to play. who knows what else they're going to pull out before the end of the tour.


if they are going to release a show from this year (on the LT series or as a separate release), i doubt that it'll be anything after Nissan (6-28) because of the lack of Roi (although i'd love a show with Jeff to be released, i dont see it happening)

that being said - SOMETHING from this tour will be released, they release at least one show from every tour anymore - it may not be a live trax, but more like the Piedmont show and my hope would be that they release SPAC night 2 - but with the lack of Stand Up tunes (which is -ironically- the big selling point of this show), i doubt that'll get released - on the other hand they seem to have a tendency to release shows with #40 (listener supported, chicago, piedmont) so who knows- no real point in speculating at this point

[jiggajm18]

i honestly would love to see the 1997 Red Rocks stand released.

the Recently with John Popper was incredible, as was the Camera Jam.

[DMBenjamin]

From the shows played so far, I'd go with Busch. It's got Crush. SPAC N2 doesn't. A 2008 Crush must be released.

im with you but what i think is that they should release spac n2, and then have songs like Crush, Two Step, and Bartender on the iTunes bonus disc. that way we'd get (theoretically :shrug) the best performances of two step, crush, etc

[onetwothree]

12-17-00 some time please!!! Was my first show

[Beebz]

I predict that this thread will be moved into DMBc and placed with all the other threads about live trax 13 predictions.

-- Negrodamus

[warehouseguy]

When are we getting that 97 show w/ fleck/popper on seek up?

[sonofsuns34]

A 97 show would answer alot of prayers... but so would something from this summer... I am still holding out hope we get a two night or three night stand from this summer(timmay). If management was superserial about the fans they would release the three nights at the greek ( i know they havent happened yet but management seems to like venue shows cus they are marketable)

but I still want a SBD of 7.10.04 ... that hershey show is amazing

[cbs31572]

6/21/08 would be a nice Live Trax 13.

-Slaughter
www.myspace.com/dmbfans

[mojo4395]

7/29/08 in Columbus. No Roi (but I think they'd still release it), an amazing mid-set Two Step, only one cover (Sledgehammer) and, if I'm not mistaken, the longest Water/Wine ever.

Oh, and I was there. They have to finally release a show that I was at!

[SmoothRider[PL]]

21.11.1998

[Sou1 So1di3r]

;7990825']21.11.1998

I think you mean 11.21.98?

[bubba40]

7/9/03, of course.

[bubba40]

10/31/98 would also be fantastic. And if you don't know who Joshua Redman is, Google NOW.

[SmoothRider[PL]]

I think you mean 11.21.98?
Well... I live in Europe and we name dates this way.
And it was before US dates system ;)

[Hershey2004]

I highly doubt LT13 will be a 2008 show, mostly because we have the 6-track iTunes release coming up at the end of the tour. Hardly equal to a full show, but the sampling will probably cover 2008 for at least six months.

I honestly think it's time for another 2004 show, preferably 7.10.04 at Hershey. If not, then something from 2002 with a few of the lost BS/LWS tunes like Captain, KKJ, BEF, and You Never Know.

After LT12 melted my face with it's awesomeness, I don't really need anything that old for a few releases.

[spitfire]

I would have to go with BUSH. Recently into Water/Wine jam was sweet. Plus Pay for What You Get. First time they played that song in 4 years. If they do release it i hope they put Dave Matthew's talking about weed cause that was hilarious.

[warehouse06]

I would have to go with BUSH. Recently into Water/Wine jam was sweet. (2) Plus Pay for What You Get. First time they played that song in 4 years. If they do release it i hope they put Dave Matthew's talking about weed cause that was hilarious.

george bush?





oh you mean BUSCH.

sorry...i'm a cardinals fan so i have to correct the mistake :D

(2) - they played pay for what you get twice in 2006
http://www.dmbalmanac.com/SongStats.aspx?sid=23

[Noles20]

I highly doubt LT13 will be a 2008 show, mostly because we have the 6-track iTunes release coming up at the end of the tour. Hardly equal to a full show, but the sampling will probably cover 2008 for at least six months.

I honestly think it's time for another 2004 show, preferably 7.10.04 at Hershey. If not, then something from 2002 with a few of the lost BS/LWS tunes like Captain, KKJ, BEF, and You Never Know.

After LT12 melted my face with it's awesomeness, I don't really need anything that old for a few releases.

I would bet that it will be a 2008 show. I think the real question is will if be a LeRoi or a Coffin?

[kyleone]

honestly i think it will be a 2008 release. maybe not the next release, but in at least a couple live trax releases. its got tim.

also, i think they should go with a show with leroi. even though jeff is awesome, i just think a real release wouldn't be the same missing roi. plus, busch was awesome!

two step, favorite version.
crush, favorite version.
rhyme and reason, one sweet world, sdl, 27, ddtw, PFWYG, recently with water wine, tripping billies, ants, thank you, hey hey my my. good stuff.

[JimiBartender36]

I think riverbend 8.5.08 would be an incredible live trax cd. im impartial because i was there but seriously.. this show is everything they say and more. and I mean that literally... Halloween SEGUED into water wine jam in my opinion making it
everyday(fake)>Halloween>water wine jam. and #40 was definitely teased before #41. dmbalmanac has a specific definition for what a tease is and i don’t think this was long enough to be considered a "tease" but he definitely played a few chords and sang at least 3 or 4 lines. I know its not much but I mean come on its #40.

It seems many people agree crush and two step from this year are being played incredibly. this show has them both including a two step to close with a carter solo that absolutely demolishes his drum set.

you can debate whether Halloween was a good version or not but the truth is its still Halloween no matter how you look at it. it was mid set and came out of nowhere. I think the thing that is being overlooked is the loudness of the crowd during this song. at least in the recording I have of it the crowd is singing right along with Dave and I know it all the versions of Halloween I have you cant hear the crowd besides them cheering. I think it adds so much to the energy of the song.

[davefanfrombama]

I'd be ok with 8.05.08 as a Live Trax. It has Water/Wine, Two Step, and Crush, all of which I would love to be released. People say it shouldn't be released because of the lack of the sax, however, I think it'd be all the more special because it's the only full band show that I know of without sax. Why not release something completely different? Bring on 8.05.08 as Live Trax 13, and 12.03.98 as Live Trax 14 to be released on its anniversary

[JimiThing1234]

the two night NC stand 33 different songs in two nights including the stone and seek up openers

[davefanfrombama]

^ Which is fantastic, but we've already got shows with those. I love hearing different versions of both of those songs, but something that only happens once in a band's tour, maybe even history, would be wonderful to be released

[davefanfrombama]

I highly doubt LT13 will be a 2008 show, mostly because we have the 6-track iTunes release coming up at the end of the tour. Hardly equal to a full show, but the sampling will probably cover 2008 for at least six months.

I honestly think it's time for another 2004 show, preferably 7.10.04 at Hershey. If not, then something from 2002 with a few of the lost BS/LWS tunes like Captain, KKJ, BEF, and You Never Know.

After LT12 melted my face with it's awesomeness, I don't really need anything that old for a few releases.

In 2007 we got a D&T show, a sampler from D&T's tour of Europe that year, three full band shows for Live Trax, an official release, and a summer tour sampler. The iTunes disc is certainly no reason for them not to release a 2008 show for Live Trax

[ajgdrums7814]

I can't see them releasing a show without Roi. Therefore I hope they release Hartford, SPAC or maybe Busch.

[Mateo2k]

I'm praying for 8/7/8

[jiggajm18]

I think riverbend 8.5.08 would be an incredible live trax cd. im impartial because i was there but seriously.. this show is everything they say and more. and I mean that literally... Halloween SEGUED into water wine jam in my opinion making it
everyday(fake)>Halloween>water wine jam. and #40 was definitely teased before #41. dmbalmanac has a specific definition for what a tease is and i don’t think this was long enough to be considered a "tease" but he definitely played a few chords and sang at least 3 or 4 lines. I know its not much but I mean come on its #40.

It seems many people agree crush and two step from this year are being played incredibly. this show has them both including a two step to close with a carter solo that absolutely demolishes his drum set.

you can debate whether Halloween was a good version or not but the truth is its still Halloween no matter how you look at it. it was mid set and came out of nowhere. I think the thing that is being overlooked is the loudness of the crowd during this song. at least in the recording I have of it the crowd is singing right along with Dave and I know it all the versions of Halloween I have you cant hear the crowd besides them cheering. I think it adds so much to the energy of the song.

yeaaaaa........still think this should be a LT after last night?

[jiggajm18]

In 2007 we got a D&T show, a sampler from D&T's tour of Europe that year, three full band shows for Live Trax, an official release, and a summer tour sampler. The iTunes disc is certainly no reason for them not to release a 2008 show for Live Trax

:thumbsup

we're going to get a full-band show released, either as a LT, a regular release, or both. bet on it.

[coyn113]

i think it has to be an msg show

that or an 08 show, which there is no point of discussing until the tour is over, but i agree at some point an 08 show needs to be released, and it most likely will

[steviegee23]

I can't see them releasing a show without Roi. Therefore I hope they release Hartford, SPAC or maybe Busch.

I hope they release SPAC (both nights). Maybe not necessarily as a Live Trax, but as just an official release.

[jiggajm18]

I hope they release SPAC (both nights). Maybe not necessarily as a Live Trax, but as just an official release.

why?

they weren't even notable enough to get released as a LT, let alone an official release.

[Crumbo]

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[BrettG19DMBFan]

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i just saw this... you beat me to it

[jiggajm18]

that's pathetic if that is a LT

[dreamingtreeIU]

when is the announcement going to be official?

[davet7462]

that's pathetic if that is a LT

Pathetic? Really? That's a tad harsh. Though I assume you were at the show since you can make the 'pathetic' claim.

[jiggajm18]

Pathetic? Really? That's a tad harsh. Though I assume you were at the show since you can make the 'pathetic' claim.

i have listened to nearly every show this summer (toronto and 8.2 and last night's show being the exception) and there were (and probably will be) better shows.

this release was strictly due to the venue. you and i both know it.

[KillTheKing 27]

its not even real yet....

[TJHMH8]

I think Saratoga Springs and cincy from this year are good choices

[KillTheKing 27]

saratoga deserves its own release "Weekend At The SPAC"

[jiggajm18]

not this year, it doesn't.

[davet7462]

i have listened to nearly every show this summer (toronto and 8.2 and last night's show being the exception) and there were (and probably will be) better shows.

this release was strictly due to the venue. you and i both know it.

1. I never said it wasn't partially venue-driven. Not sure that's a big problem.
2. People feel there are always better shows that don't get released.
3. This show had the first PFWYG>Recently>Water-Wine.
4. Amazing Crush and Two Step Opener
5. D&T Ants Intro
6. This release will have Roi on it. Most other choices this year won't.

My 'argument' with you was calling this a 'pathetic' choice. I think that's excessive hyperbole. This was a good show (and yes, I was there). Obviously not the BEST show ever - but one certainly worthy of a release.

[jiggajm18]

see, i don't agree that this is worthy of a release. performance-wise, we have better shows already from this summer.

[avsfan]

spac just had a lt release so i doubt they're gonna get another one so soon. 8.26.07 is well deserving of a lt but i dont think it will happen either, bummer too, cuz dreaming tree as an opener was awesome as was the rest of ghe show.

[davet7462]

see, i don't agree that this is worthy of a release. performance-wise, we have better shows already from this summer.

Yes - but that's your opinion. You may think one show was 'the best.' Somebody else picks a different show. Nobody is 'right' or 'wrong.' And if you weren't there - you can't say its not worthy of a release. While the tapers do a great job - the sound quality isn't the same.

I'd love to have had different songs. But don't we always feel that way at every show?

[jiggajm18]

you don't have to have sbd quality to hear a good performance.

[jiggajm18]

Yes - but that's your opinion. You may think one show was 'the best.' Somebody else picks a different show. Nobody is 'right' or 'wrong.' And if you weren't there - you can't say its not worthy of a release. While the tapers do a great job - the sound quality isn't the same.

I'd love to have had different songs. But don't we always feel that way at every show?

nope.

[davet7462]

nope.

So what show this year has had your perfect set list?

[jiggajm18]

So what show this year has had your perfect set list?

none have been perfect. althought last night's was one of the best.

8.8.07 was probably the most perfect setlist in recent years.

[davet7462]

none have been perfect. althought last night's was one of the best.

8.8.07 was probably the most perfect setlist in recent years.

I don't understand. You say none of the setlists this year have been perfect. Yet you also say you don't always leave a show wishing for a different song?

Setlists are subjective. What I want to hear may make you go on a beer run. And vice versa. I just don't see the Busch show being released as a L/T being a bad thing.

[jiggajm18]

Setlists are subjective. What I want to hear may make you go on a beer run. And vice versa. I just don't see the Busch show being released as a L/T being a bad thing.

because we have better shows from this summer. that's not arguable.

[bradshaw06]

none have been perfect. althought last night's was one of the best.

8.8.07 was probably the most perfect setlist in recent years.
some day i hope they release this

[davet7462]

because we have better shows from this summer. that's not arguable.

All OPINIONS are arguable. How anyone defines 'BETTER SHOWS' is in and of itself arguable.

But - as has been stated before - part of the selection of this show is the venue. Sorry if that pisses you off - it is what it is. And there were some neat things at this show. If you don't like it - don't buy it.

[CrAzyEasy223]

Instead of jus one show on a live trax id rather they do an official release of a whole weekend like the Berkeley weekends or The Gorge or even alpine that way there can be a wide variety of songs and everyone gets what they want in some aspect

[Mateo2k]

Instead of jus one show on a live trax id rather they do an official release of a whole weekend like the Berkeley weekends or The Gorge or even alpine that way there can be a wide variety of songs and everyone gets what they want in some aspect

Thats not what i want.

[davefanfrombama]

There's no way the picture's real. It has to be a fluke. It goes against the new line of cover arts. No way

[davefanfrombama]

And honestly, I don't want this one because of the lackluster encore. I'm glad the band moved away from the cover closers they were doing at the beginning. Never really understood why a band of such prestige does so many covers anyway. But I still stand that this one's a fluke. They wouldn't change the cover art for one show. Somebody's pulling some chains

[avsfan]

And honestly, I don't want this one because of the lackluster encore. I'm glad the band moved away from the cover closers they were doing at the beginning. Never really understood why a band of such prestige does so many covers anyway. But I still stand that this one's a fluke. They wouldn't change the cover art for one show. Somebody's pulling some chains

what picture?

[DJGeneral]

I think they should release a 2008 show in the regular live album catalog and a
"classic" show for LT.

[Mateo2k]

The last LT was from 1995.

Or something like that. I just bought it last night and haven't listened to it yet.

Regardless, I don't think there should be any date limitations. I think anything from the first show to last night should be available.

[spoot388]

The last LT was from 1995.

Or something like that. I just bought it last night and haven't listened to it yet.

Regardless, I don't think there should be any date limitations. I think anything from the first show to last night should be available.


normally that would be alright, but they shove newer shows down our throats. for every "old" show we get, we get one from the current tour, sometimes 2 or 3. in 07 we got D+T, 2 shows from Vegas, and then Piedmont, and what the "old" show was from like 2004 or something like that. and thats on top of the RR95 release, Fenway, and whatever they have planned from this year. like half of the releases in the last 4 years have been from the "current" tours. they don't even give them a chance to get old.

[jiggajm18]

normally that would be alright, but they shove newer shows down our throats. for every "old" show we get, we get one from the current tour, sometimes 2 or 3. in 07 we got D+T, 2 shows from Vegas, and then Piedmont, and what the "old" show was from like 2004 or something like that. and thats on top of the RR95 release, Fenway, and whatever they have planned from this year. like half of the releases in the last 4 years have been from the "current" tours. they don't even give them a chance to get old.

:thumbsup

these modern-day LT releases are pathetic. each of the past 3 years have had a LT....and none of the releases were even arguably the best show from their respective year.

[DJGeneral]

I really am hoping we get another D&T LT or a main release.

Looks like Busch is LT 13.

MSG may be LT 14

and LT 15 is D&T :)

[spoot388]

I really am hoping we get another D&T LT or a main release.

Looks like Busch is LT 13.

MSG may be LT 14

and LT 15 is D&T :)


i really dont think they would release a D+T show as a LT. and MSG is possible, although it could also be a full blown release like Listener Supported.

[jiggajm18]

i really dont think they would release a D+T show as a LT. and MSG is possible, although it could also be a full blown release like Listener Supported.

it's been confirmed that LTs are strictly DMB

[davefanfrombama]

Yeah, I don't see D&T as ever having a Live Trax. They're officially called DMB Live Trax anyway. For anyone looking for the picture I was referring to, check out the "Busch Stadium as the next Live Trax?" thread in the DMB forum

[DJGeneral]

Yeah, I don't see D&T as ever having a Live Trax. They're officially called DMB Live Trax anyway. For anyone looking for the picture I was referring to, check out the "Busch Stadium as the next Live Trax?" thread in the DMB forum

yeah, my bad. i totally forgot.

LT 13 - Bush
Main release - MSG
LT 14 - Something else from 2008 tour?

Still hoping for a D&T main release within a year or so.

[davefanfrombama]

Don't get me wrong, I want a D&T release really badly myself. I'd actually really like it if they'd release the show for Obama back in April. I would love a sbd of that Dreaming Tree. Hell, I wouldn't even care if the money went to support Obama, just for that version. But I won't ever ask stop asking that they just go ahead and release Live at Purdue 2003.

[DJGeneral]

I won't ever ask stop asking that they release Live at Purdue 2003.

:thumbsup

[FSUant212]

Either way I'm stoked. When do you think it wil be released? What is the deal with the 6 song sampler anyway? I voted at my show, when I recycled...

[DJGeneral]

Just DMB's way of giving back.

[jiggajm18]

Either way I'm stoked. When do you think it wil be released? What is the deal with the 6 song sampler anyway? I voted at my show, when I recycled...

the 6 song sampler is going to be released after the summer tour is over.

[RobRoy286]

Either way I'm stoked. When do you think it wil be released? What is the deal with the 6 song sampler anyway? I voted at my show, when I recycled...What did you vote for?

[FSUant212]

I voted for the 7-11-08 version of ants, I know there are a million versions of this song, but hands down that night was the best I have ever heard it played. The energy was off the hook!

Did anyone else vote with the so much to save promo?

[RedsoxW]

08-07-08

It had possibly one of the best teases ever and i knew it was coming when they started everyday i just couldn't believe it, ants was on of the best sounding ever and proudest monkey-satellite there covers for the tour and #41. but mostly i was there.

[theyesthman]

bad call on live trax 13
i would've voted alpine if they didn't already have one but i'd be more than happy to have another...both nights

[nrhaehle]

Live trax 13 should be no other than the rarest show up to this point... a fantastic second showing at Alpine Valley that blew everyone away. This show was so good that the crowd stayed an extra 30 minutes just to continue the fun, carrying on Thank You until voices were lost. This was the best weekend at Alpine in years.

[nrhaehle]

I did give a listen to the Busch Stadium show prior and during the festivities on the first night at Alpine, and I think that it also has a pretty sweet setlist for LT13. But for all those nay sayers I was with a group that was at both Busch and Alpine and they agree that the Alpine shows were a bit better, with maybe the exception of Recently being MIA.

[DMBpablo]

Maybe Alpine weekend will be an official CD release :)

[theyesthman]

Maybe Alpine weekend will be an official CD release :)

that would be phenomenal
i had just got back from va beach when i saw these two shows and was quite jealous

[theyesthman]

i just looked at the busch set and any other tour this would be a fine choice for a live trax but just not with the recent run of shows

[Mrbrown07]

don't worry. This isn't going to be the only release from this tour.

[JimiThing1234]

don't worry. This isn't going to be the only release from this tour.

yup, there will def. be another release from this tour:thumbsup

[waperoza]

So I guess we can stop guessing now... 6-7-08 it is. Looks like it was a good show. I'm convinced this is the best tour yet, so I'm psyched they chose to release something from the tour so quick. I'm bummed they didn't pick a show where they covered Money though. I love that they covered Floyd.

[arrabyla30]

~ From the official website...

Live Trax Vol. 13: 06.07.08 Busch Stadium Now Available for Pre-Order
08/13/2008

Live Trax Vol. 13: 06.07.08 Busch Stadium, St. Louis, MO is now available for Pre-Order! For the release of Live Trax 13, we’re offering a show from the outset of the 2008 summer tour. History was made on June 7, 2008, as Dave Matthews Band became the first artist to perform a concert at Busch Stadium in St. Louis, MO. DMB rocked the major league stadium that night, performing in center field in front of close to 35,000 fans.

Highlights of the show include Pay For What You Get and the rarity Recently > Water into Wine jam which had not been played live in over ten years. Other songs of note include a superb performance of Crush and covers of Neil Young’s Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black) and Sly and the Family Stone’s Thank You (Falletin Me Be Mice Elf Again)! All DMB albums were represented at the Busch Stadium show plus Dave Matthews’ Some Devil release!

The 06.07.08 Busch Stadium show is now available for Pre-Order as a 2-CD set or as a digital download in MP3 or FLAC format. The 2008 Busch Stadium show is being offered at a SPECIAL PRE-ORDER ONLY price of $15.99. We have reprinted more of the popular Cardinals themed event shirt which sold out at the show plus we’ve created a special commemorative Raglan baseball shirt, both of which are being offered as bundle options with the Pre-Order. Live Trax volume 13 is also available with volumes 10-12 for a special Pre-Order only price. Click here to Pre-Order.

[Flip36]

don't worry. This isn't going to be the only release from this tour.

I get that feeling too.

[stlguy11501]

I am from St. Louis and was at this show. Not only was the venue frickin sweet but the show kicked some A$$!!!! Also had some great fun tailgating with some Ants from all over the country!! Even not being from St. Louis I feel that this would be LT worthy. But then again im a fairweather fan and I love pretty much anything they do!! I have every other live trax as well regarldess of venue or setlist!! Just be happy they still make great music and they want to share it with us!! They cant release every show, nor can they release what everyone else considers a "great" show. Its very possible that DMB thought that this show was the best they've played and thats not an opinion, its their music. Would anyone REALLY argue with DMB about what shows were better than BUSCH??? Dont think so......

[Krakan]

\ Would anyone REALLY argue with DMB about what shows were better than BUSCH??? Dont think so......


ummm yeah, i would argue. the show was good don't get me wrong... but wasn't live trax originally launched to have older shows... i have listened to the set, read the set and everything, and I (me myself I individual person) don't think that Live Trax 13 should be Saint Luis...

[bmt322]

There is nothing wrong with this release. Yes, it's a weaker set list but that's because it was early in the tour. DMB is content on releasing this concert. It took 2 years of planning and hard work to get this show up, and this concert was the reason why the band did not visit St. Louis in 2007, so this was the first show since spring 2006 for the city. It's the first concert ever in the stadium, and in the old Busch, people like the Beatles got to play there, so this was very special. It was an excellent performance for how early it was in the tour. So quit the complaining, especially for those of you who have not even heard the show!!

[tubaprodigy]

people keep forgetting that leroi was at this show. i can completely understand if dmb wants to have an official release with all the members. i think alpine and spac will be on the itunes album, or maybe some warehouse albums, or even a release in the future...how about people just relax for now and accept LT 13. Let the band decide. There are A LOT of shows out there that are great and are not at gorge, alpine, or spac. and plus, with the internet, if you really want those shows, just go download them...no big deal. i would love to see as many different venues released as possible...

[davefanfrombama]

Would anyone REALLY argue with DMB about what shows were better than BUSCH??? Dont think so......

Yup. It seems to me as though the band has lost sight of choosing the best shows based on performance, and is more concerned with the financial impact. There were 35,000 fans at the Busch show. Most of those fans have probably never even heard of the Live Trax series. However, these fans will all buy the show because they were there, thus becoming aware of the series and will most likely continue to purchase the shows from the series. Therefore, I believe this is largely a financial move, and not a choice by the band for the best show. The same was done with LT10, it made Europeans aware of the series.

[davet7462]

I am from St. Louis and was at this show. Not only was the venue frickin sweet but the show kicked some A$$!!!! Also had some great fun tailgating with some Ants from all over the country!! Even not being from St. Louis I feel that this would be LT worthy. But then again im a fairweather fan and I love pretty much anything they do!! I have every other live trax as well regarldess of venue or setlist!! Just be happy they still make great music and they want to share it with us!! They cant release every show, nor can they release what everyone else considers a "great" show. Its very possible that DMB thought that this show was the best they've played and thats not an opinion, its their music. Would anyone REALLY argue with DMB about what shows were better than BUSCH??? Dont think so......

Hey Jeremy! How ya doing? Hope all is well back in St. Louis. Still heading west to the Gorge?

[stlguy11501]

Hey Jeremy! How ya doing? Hope all is well back in St. Louis. Still heading west to the Gorge?


Doing very well thanks, and you?. As a matter of fact our plans just got canceled Monday because Ashley started a new job. So maybe hopefully next year we will get there. We are having unseasonable weather right now, days are in the low 80's and evenings in the low 60's so its very comfortable.

[davet7462]

Doing very well thanks, and you?. As a matter of fact our plans just got canceled Monday because Ashley started a new job. So maybe hopefully next year we will get there. We are having unseasonable weather right now, days are in the low 80's and evenings in the low 60's so its very comfortable.

Glad you're both doing well! Things are normal out here - work is crazy but its better than not working, right? Sorry the plans got canceled - but it sounds like its at least for a good cause. My daughter and her friend are in town for a couple of weeks - and just looking forward to the Phoenix show/sauna next Saturday. Tell Ashley Marcia and I say Hi!

[stlguy11501]

Glad you're both doing well! Things are normal out here - work is crazy but its better than not working, right? Sorry the plans got canceled - but it sounds like its at least for a good cause. My daughter and her friend are in town for a couple of weeks - and just looking forward to the Phoenix show/sauna next Saturday. Tell Ashley Marcia and I say Hi!


Will do, same to you all, have a good time at the shows for us!!

[dtgoldkamp]

george bush?





oh you mean BUSCH.

sorry...i'm a cardinals fan so i have to correct the mistake :D

(2) - they played pay for what you get twice in 2006
http://www.dmbalmanac.com/SongStats.aspx?sid=23

Probably not Bush, considering that Dave is a very liberal Obama supporter...

[davet7462]

Probably not Bush, considering that Dave is a very liberal Obama supporter...

And your definition of 'very liberal' is...?

[Mrbrown07]

I would like to see Hollywood Bowl N2 '07 as Live Trax 14. One of the best setlists of last summer and a great West Coast release other than Red Rocks or Gorge

[bwillis1975]

I think the Tour Sampler/ITunes release will have many of the songs and venues that people are clamoring for here. LeRoi will also be represented there. They won't release that sampler with too many duplicate songs from the Busch set list, so: many of the covers and the songs that are missing. It will all come soon. Plus, we get the sampler before they release LT13!

[natedoggld182]

ive heard busch and it was good, but i wouldn't vote for it...

reason one: Alpine
Reason two: Alpine

[RedsoxW]

i would agree that they were gonna releases busch no matter what very much like fenway, and if they release another show for lt this year i doubt anyone will be surprised because of how good they have been.

[simon78nash]

Alpine alpine alpine alpine alpine alpine alpine alpine alpine alpine alpine alpine alpine alpine alpine alpine alpine alpine alpine alpine

[RymNRsn]

LT 14: Two nights in the Valley

[Hershey2004]

Top 3 choices for LT14 with no particular preference, just that I would herald it instantly as my favorite live DMB release ever:

10.2.07 Hollywood Bowl
8.9.08 Alpine Valley
7.10.04 Hershey Park

[davefanfrombama]

Nah, LT 14 should be the ten year anniversary of 12.03.98, arguably the best show in the band's history

[RobRoy286]

Nah, LT 14 should be the ten year anniversary of 12.03.98, arguably the best show in the band's historyThat'd be perfect :thumbsup

[theyesthman]

LT 14: Two nights in the Valley

amen.
virginia beach would be good too

[mikepalmer2005]

i was at busch and it was amazing! i was not disappointed at all and after getting screwed over on a trade for this show im glad it is being released officially. :bounce

[Bearclaw_]

Top 3 choices for LT14 with no particular preference, just that I would herald it instantly as my favorite live DMB release ever:

10.2.07 Hollywood Bowl
8.9.08 Alpine Valley
7.10.04 Hershey Park
I would love to see a 4 disc set of Hollywood bowl releases. :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

[BSFD113]

Spac 2008!!!!

[BSFD113]

Nah, LT 14 should be the ten year anniversary of 12.03.98, arguably the best show in the band's history

Until SPAC 2008 came along... June 21, 2008 will live in DMB lore as one of the greatest shows ever!!!!! Def should be LT 14

[Pakennedy]

ummm yeah, i would argue. the show was good don't get me wrong... but wasn't live trax originally launched to have older shows...
No. The LT series, like the phish live recording sales before it, was launched to combat illegal revenue from bootleg sales.

[joyride7tbowa]

alpine '08 alpine '08 alpine '08 need i say more?

[bwillis1975]

Nah, LT 14 should be the ten year anniversary of 12.03.98, arguably the best show in the band's history

Having never heard the show, just glancing at the set list...

yeah, I would buy that without needing to hear it! Good call.

Same for some of the other suggestions here. The set lists look really, really good.

[pamelaubeda]

berkeley. no doubt in my mind.

3 nights. wicked location. small venue. last show of tour. carter's bday. 'nough said.

they rocked it so hard i can't even describe it.

[tre4dmb]

Gorge N1 - Most powerful, emotional, and meaningful connection between crowd and performer(s) I have experienced in seeing a live show, of any genre. And the music was damn good too. But then again I only did one weekend this year, so didn't see other shows during this Tour. And this might be a show the band wants to keep out of the limelight. While there were 20,000 who witnessed, it felt much smaller and more personal.

[americanemu25]

i think its gonna be busch stadium from this year....but thats just a guess

[Faz#41]

they will release MSG show cd/maybe dvd. May not be labeled a Live trax, but they will give most of the profit from the sales right back to stand up for a cure.

[ravens24]

I think LT14 will be one of the Brazil shows. Rio is probably going to be amazingg.

[hkhund07]

I think LT14 will be one of the Brazil shows. Rio is probably going to be amazingg.

hope not. as 2008 shows go.. there are far better choices.

[sir iggius]

i just want a show that has a song that we don;t have a sbd to yet.

[Inter]

well this Two Step blew me away. This is one of the best ever.

[sonofsuns34]

see 9/10/08 for an amazing two step... i dont even know how carters arms are still attached to his body