Single Coming Very Soon

[DIDriveOut2SPAC]

My local radio station has an AIM account, where you can request songs, shoot the shit with the jockeys, etc (WEQX).

I was talking to him (instead of working) about the new album and he says his manager tell him the single is coming very soon. Within 2 weeks he says.

I wont reveal the screen name, for the sake of his peace and quiet, but here is the convo

[14:58] skahahaweee: hey man, you think you could play some dmb, maybe some trippin billies?
[14:59] weqx: your name & town?

[14:59] *** Auto-response sent to weqxmusic: MIT
[14:59] skahahaweee: daniel from boston
[14:59] weqx: I'll try
[14:59] skahahaweee: hey do you have any news when there first single for their upcoming album is supposed to start to air
[15:00] weqx: not yet
[15:00] skahahaweee: i know they have an album coming out 4/15
[15:01] weqx: my manager tells me their single is coming to radio stations very soon, within 2 weeks.
[15:01] skahahaweee: nice

I wouldn't immediately trust this, but i thought it was interesting. Maybe we could get in contact with our local stations try to get some info

[darbini]

cool

[warehouseguy]

let's hope so, and sounds like that could work timeline wise, but awaiting further confirmation.

[buzz05232000]

Can you up it?

[dmb5570]

4/15, fail. but cool convo, hopefully it holds water and comes true., im ready for some new dmb.

[SmoothRider[PL]]

4/15, fail. but cool convo, hopefully it holds water and comes true., im ready for some new dmb.
I am ready since my birth :)

[som3d3vil34]

sounds about right

[DIDriveOut2SPAC]

4/15, fail. but cool convo, hopefully it holds water and comes true., im ready for some new dmb.

:confused

[solsburyhill]

pretty cool.

[thehoss]

album's due out 4/14.

[jkrue22]

It comes out 4/14.

wbos is better too. :)

[bluehorseshoe]

Cant see a single being released without some sort of basic marketing already being out in the trades, and there is none out there whatsoever.

Hope this holds up though, that would be cool, especially in conjunction with the summer tour dates, which I would suspect will be dropped then as well.

[DIDriveOut2SPAC]

It comes out 4/14.

wbos is better too. :)

haha typo fail

WEQX is from vermont/saratoga, ny area, I listen online. I do like WBOS tho.

[wildcat2324]

Interesting. Hopefully this is true.

[TMoore4075]

Yeah as someone said, time wise that would work with when singles tend to be released. So we'll see if thats accurate in a couple weeks won't we. I hope so. I need some new music.

[Flip36]

ok, i believe you!

[mattinbeloit]

About freaking time...

[hoke2007]

I hope so. That would be great!

[madyloy]

hmm weird he says he doesnt know then he says he does know....

[turbo895]

shouldda asked him what the new albums called >.<

[TMoore4075]

hmm weird he says he doesnt know then he says he does know....

I thought that too but he could have asked his manager right then too.

[mburn4jh]

so are we all hoping for a new site/single/album info/video bombshell? I guess this would be the time when they introduce coffin formally, not just in interviews saying he will join. I'm also intrigued as to exactly how Roi will be in everything; obviously he has a share of this album but will they legally be able to keep him under contract for future projects and donate his part? Will he stay in all the pictures on the site?
Obviously a sensitive issue for everyone, but one that is being addressed, let's discuss

[iancontijoch]

I say we should try to email our local radio stations and ask if they can confirm this. It's worth a shot.

[DMBZeppelin]

I hope this is true.

[Billies09]

I say we should try to email our local radio stations and ask if they can confirm this. It's worth a shot.

Yeah it's definitely worth a shot!

[JimiThing3403]

I believe you.

And if your lying, may god have mercy on your soul

[Flip36]

I just spoke to Joey Kramer at WPLJ, and he said they are going to start giving away tickets for MSG and IZOD in 2 weeks which he believes they will be promoting their single with the contest!

[solsburyhill]

hmm... pretty neato. maybe they will lay everything on us at once.

[yemmyfriend]

WEQX is the best radio station in upstate ny/vermont. they went through a really horrible period during the early 2000s but have regained their strength. But, when I was younger - and by younger I mean around 7 or 8 - till I had my driver's license, EQX was the only radio station my mom or I listened to. And, for everyone that goes to SPAC, they play DMB all day long when they come into town.

[Billies09]

hmm... pretty neato. maybe they will lay everything on us at once.

I think it will be one big drop too. We'll get the single, summer tour dates, and some additional album info too.

[DMBPATSFAN]

I can't wait for the summer dates...I have been saving since last summer, got almost 2000 saved

[Candice Smith]

do you think there will be a huge summer tour or a shorter one due to the spring tour and possible european dates ?

[GRECObearcat]

haha typo fail

WEQX is from vermont/saratoga, ny area, I listen online. I do like WBOS tho.

Since you confirmed this is the same EQX that I was thinking of, I give the statement made by the Jockey credibility. I would not be suprised in the least if that station, and others of the like get the first single in 2 weeks.

[davetripping02]

id say at the end of Feb the single will be released.

[evjens]

I think it will be one big drop too. We'll get the single, summer tour dates, and some additional album info too.

and then i jizz...in...my pants.

[MPizzle06]

and then i jizz...in...my pants.

:lol:lol:lol :thumbsup

In my opinion, given how late in the game it is and how tight-lipped they've been, not to mention that they're still in NO presumably still recording (and not just doing logistical stuff), we will get a "big bombshell" drop of info by the end of February.

I think that this will include:
- Album Title & Track Listing
- Pre-order & Single Release Date (to coincide with what iTunes usually does, allowing a DL of the single when you pre-order)
- Promo Video (e.g. them in the studio with the first single playing)

:multi:multi:multi Soooo very excited!!!! Great news from the radio stations too :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

[Billies09]

:lol:lol:lol :thumbsup

In my opinion, given how late in the game it is and how tight-lipped they've been, not to mention that they're still in NO presumably still recording (and not just doing logistical stuff), we will get a "big bombshell" drop of info by the end of February.

I think that this will include:
- Album Title & Track Listing
- Pre-order & Single Release Date (to coincide with what iTunes usually does, allowing a DL of the single when you pre-order)
- Promo Video (e.g. them in the studio with the first single playing)

:multi:multi:multi Soooo very excited!!!! Great news from the radio stations too :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Sounds reasonable given the timeline :thumbsup

[MPizzle06]

Sounds reasonable given the timeline :thumbsup

Thanks!!

I think that Summer Tour dates will come at a later date though, possibly mid-March, but not at the same time as this "bombshell" album info release.

I'm so excited for the next few weeks!!!! FINALLY, some NEW studio DMB!!! :monkey

[martindcx1e]

let's hope this is true, that would be very nice

[Alexzandraeva]

The idea that they would be giving out tickets with the release of the new single makes sense to me, and I feel like these radio stations would know when they were giving out tickets. Wooooo single soon!

[CrAzyEasy223]

I can't wait for the summer dates...I have been saving since last summer, got almost 2000 saved
Same here but only about 1500 saved.

[Greybillytripin]

this is great news to hear after a bad day hopefully ur right

[dantheman0515]

Fantastic news. I had just started a thread regarding the release of the first single 2 days ago. Hopefully this is all true but at the very least I'd hope to know a lot more by the end of Feb.

[spoot388]

i just emailed one of my local stations asking if they know of anything. i also asked if they know what the name of the song is. hopefully i'll get an answer tomorrow. i'll post what i get when i read it.

[bibby1044]

i just emailed one of my local stations asking if they know of anything. i also asked if they know what the name of the song is. hopefully i'll get an answer tomorrow. i'll post what i get when i read it.
Good idea. Which one did you ask?

[BigEyedFerg]

If moses is right about us getting some info next week, then 2 weeks from now for the single would be very feasible. Album title + single title + new site + preorder shit next week --- then single released the next. It would work.

Whenever info does come, I think it will come in abundance :thumbsup

[Dramageek]

The way I see it, we HAVE to get some info relatively soon, at least before the end of this month. There is obviously going to be a pre-order period for the album. The pre-order period for LT 14 is roughly a month and a half, which seems to be average. For there to be an adequate pre-order period, it would have to start before March or at the very beginning of March. For DMB's management to adequately market the album during the pre-order period, they have to give us SOME info, such as the name of the album, first single, track listing, etc. So I am expecting some sort of announcement/info drop in the next 2-3 weeks.

[cubiesfan05]

Cant see a single being released without some sort of basic marketing already being out in the trades, and there is none out there whatsoever.

Hope this holds up though, that would be cool, especially in conjunction with the summer tour dates, which I would suspect will be dropped then as well.
Actually they were running a commercial hyping the concerts here before they went on sale and at the end they said something to the effect of.......and be sure to look for the the Dave Matthews Band studio album in stores 4-14. So there has been some BASIC marketing.

[Bohrman26]

I think it will be one big drop too. We'll get the single, summer tour dates, and some additional album info too.

That's one hell of a big drop!

I hope this is true, though. Would be nice to get slapped in the face with all that shit!

[hoke2007]

Lets hope this is true. It would be nice.

[GoLdpHiShDMB]

im def excited!!!

[spoot388]

Good idea. Which one did you ask?


Jumpin Jeff :lol



KRZ is the only station I could think of that would play "MTV" songs, which is pretty much what singles are. I don't listen to the radio at all, but I know DMB won't be found on 97.9X or anything like that. I figured KRZ is the most mainstream we have around here, might as well try them for some info.



EDIT- as of 11am i have not gotten an email back, but he doesnt go on until 3, so i'll wait until later.

[STL Bayou]

Hopefully they'll let something slip, but I would imagine they haven't been told yet in order to prevent a leak. If they do know, I would guess they're contracturally obligated not to say.

But... I went ahead and emailed a few of the local stations here in St. Louis just in case we could get one of them to slip up anyway ;)

[dmbftp]

My local radio station

I wont reveal the screen name,

[14:59] *** Auto-response sent to weqxmusic: MIT
[14:59] skahahaweee: daniel from boston
[14:59] weqx: I'll try



Think ya missed one there.

[Firedancer627]

Hey...first post...despite being a member for 4 years. lol.

As soon as I saw this, I figured I would give a few stations in the Philly area a try. I sent an email to WMMR and Radio 104.5...hopefully I'll hear back. Of course, if I do, I'll post whatever the response is!:cool

[kingchrisII]

Think ya missed one there.

Way to throw him under the bus lol... doubt anyone realized that.

[dmb5570]

Way to throw him under the bus lol... doubt anyone realized that.


haha, i saw that yesterday but figured it wouldnt be all that difficult to find the station in this google driven world anyways. im glad someone pointed it out though, should have said "fail" first though.

[Candice Smith]

I'm wondering if they will go #1 will this album too - that'd would make DMB one of the record holders for most #1 albums, I believe. Are there any other big releases that week too ?

[spoot388]

I'm wondering if they will go #1 will this album too - that'd would make DMB one of the record holders for most #1 albums, I believe. Are there any other big releases that week too ?


I find it hard to believe they WOULDN'T debut at #1. hell, just between sales to members of the WH and Ants they'll break the top 10, probably top 5. even though the last couple albums haven't been that great, they still sold amazingly well. they are still DMB. they're going to sell.

[dmb5570]

didnt someone say lil waynes album is comign out that day too?

[MPizzle06]

didnt someone say lil waynes album is comign out that day too?

Albums Scheduled for release 4/14/09:
"New Again" by Taking Back Sunday
Untitled by Dave Matthews Band
"Fantasies" by Metric

per wiki search, but I'm sure they'd have listed any other big name artists. It says also that Green Day's untitled record is supposed to be out in April, but that there is an unspecified date.

edit: 4/7/09 - "Rebirth" by Lil Wayne

edit 2: :lol it's supposed to be Lil Wayne's "rock album debut" hahahahahahahaha

[chr35919]

i have an idear what it will be...

[scarbdp]

i have an idear what it will be...


oh yeah? and whats your idear?

[JimiThing3403]

Idea(r) Of you :cool

[scarbdp]

Idea(r) Of you :cool


you really think that will be the single?

[chr35919]

you really think that will be the single?:thumbsup

[JimiThing3403]

Its short. Its catchy. its got single all over it


it would be REAAL nice to get 100% confirmation though

[dmb5570]

i would be disappointed in that. unless it gets a nice bit of work in the studio, improve the lyrics and make it a little more exciting. i think id just prefer a new tune.

[markbaggs]

While we're on the subject...does anyone have what they consider to be the best version of Idea of You. I really like the one from Night One of Vegas in terms of sound, but the lyrics from Charlotte on 6.20.06 were fantastic in my opinion. The one from Fenway was good. I haven't heard the one from LT10 in quite some time. I think it's the logical choice for a single, assuming they don't go with a brand new song. Idea of You is short enough, and has a singable chorus....see Ants Marching, Best of What's Around, Crash, etc...

[dmb5570]

Its short. Its catchy. its got single all over it


it would be REAAL nice to get 100% confirmation though


this album would be alright with no songs that are a good fit for radio. a song can be good and do well on the radio without sounding like it was made for it(everyday album was made for radio, btcs wasnt and still did fine).

[MPizzle06]

this album would be alright with no songs that are a good fit for radio. a song can be good and do well on the radio without sounding like it was made for it(everyday album was made for radio, btcs wasnt and still did fine).

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

And a song doesn't have to be short to be a single. See Crush. It wasn't the first single, but it was A single. They just cut it down for radio play and was fine. The key is that it should be upbeat.

And again I hope it's not a song we already know, unless it was re-worked and is unfuckingbelievable

[JimiThing3403]

my favorite idea of you is still the first one ever played. deer creek '06

[^MaLaKaS^]

Thanks for the info :thumbsup

[hoke2007]

my favorite idea of you is still the first one ever played. deer creek '06

Same. If they could play the intro from '08 with it, I'd love it.

[dmb5570]

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

And a song doesn't have to be short to be a single. See Crush. It wasn't the first single, but it was A single. They just cut it down for radio play and was fine. The key is that it should be upbeat.

And again I hope it's not a song we already know, unless it was re-worked and is unfuckingbelievable


Exactly. Crush is a perfect example. Let those radio idiots edit it if they think its too long, dont edit it to put it on the album so it can make the radio!!

[LowEnd_Theory]

i have an idear what it will be...

Couldnt hope youre more wrong. Fuck that song.

blah blahhhhhh blah blahhhhh blah blah blah you. blah blahhhhh blah blahhhh say what i mean, wanna stay but i think why am i yelling like an idiot, blah blahhhh

yuck. so annoying.

[BigEyedFerg]

i have an idear what it will be...

:violent I hope not lol. I'd really like to see a fresh new song as the first single... :thumbsup

[GraceIsGone40]

History DOES seem to support an expected release date of mid-February. For Stand Up, American Baby was announced as its first single on March 11th, 2005 - almost exactly two months before the album was released (May 10th, 2005). If the timing is anything like during the Stand Up sessions - and assuming the April 14th date is 100% certain - then we should expect to hear of the first single on or around February 14th.

[bluehorseshoe]

Actually they were running a commercial hyping the concerts here before they went on sale and at the end they said something to the effect of.......and be sure to look for the the Dave Matthews Band studio album in stores 4-14. So there has been some BASIC marketing.

What I was talking about is that there has been nothing done in terms of marketing in any the A & R industry trade newspapers, which is where you will see the first of the marketing, print or otherwise, show up about the new single. I thougth I made this pretty clear in my post.

And this thread isnt about the summer tour being advertised, or when the new album is going to be released, its about the pending single from the band.

[mburn4jh]

Same. If they could play the intro from '08 with it, I'd love it.


agreed. the 08 intro is a must. especially if they do release a video, it provides a nice little beginning

[crounsa810]

History DOES seem to support an expected release date of mid-February. For Stand Up, American Baby was announced as its first single on March 11th, 2005 - almost exactly two months before the album was released (May 10th, 2005). If the timing is anything like during the Stand Up sessions - and assuming the April 14th date is 100% certain - then we should expect to hear of the first single on or around February 14th.
That would be a pretty nice Valentine's Day present.

[Digitalfury2248]

That would be a pretty nice Valentine's Day present.

Finally a Valentine's Day worth celebrating! :)


Anyone else get a confirmation that its a couple/few weeks away from their local radio station? I've emailed the 2 local stations that like to play DMB, but no responses yet.

[bibby1044]

Jumpin Jeff :lol



KRZ is the only station I could think of that would play "MTV" songs, which is pretty much what singles are. I don't listen to the radio at all, but I know DMB won't be found on 97.9X or anything like that. I figured KRZ is the most mainstream we have around here, might as well try them for some info.



EDIT- as of 11am i have not gotten an email back, but he doesnt go on until 3, so i'll wait until later.
Yeah I figured it would be that one, I know they rarely get played on rock 107, KRZ is the station that plays them the most especially when he comes to Scranton. I dont really think bht would play them that often either.

Lets hope Jeff could hook us up.

[ajgdrums7814]

I actually like IOY, as long as Carter cuts the chorus shit and goes back to '06.

[Taylor/Martin]

I actually like IOY, as long as Carter cuts the chorus shit and goes back to '06.

Carter is so awesome that he can travel through time apparently

[unknownone]

Well, it is normal. The first single usually comes out 1 month, 1 month and half before the album hits the streets. Then the band will start promoting heavily...

Let those radio idiots edit it if they think its too long, dont edit it to put it on the album so it can make the radio!!

I don't know if they still do that. The two singles from Metallica's new album are 7:54 and 7:59 and they weren't cut/edited at all, I was really impressed with that!

[bibby1044]

Well, it is normal. The first single usually comes out 1 month, 1 month and half before the album hits the streets. Then the band will start promoting heavily...



I don't know if they still do that. The two singles from Metallica's new album are 7:54 and 7:59 and they weren't cut/edited at all, I was really impressed with that!
Metallica isnt really what you would call mainstream.

[DIDriveOut2SPAC]

Metallica isnt really what you would call mainstream.


and there not good.

[TrueHoosier]

and there not good.

Down with grammar.:thumbsup

[DIDriveOut2SPAC]

Down with grammar.:thumbsup
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[JohnK86]

Metallica isnt really what you would call mainstream.
What the hell are you talking about?

[MsEmilyNYC]

What the hell are you talking about?

I think he means that Metallica is not a band you'll find on mainstream pop/adult alternative radio. Most songs on those stations are 4 minutes TOPS.

[bluehorseshoe]

Metallica isnt really what you would call mainstream.

They are a hell of alot more mainstream than Dave Matthews Band.

[Candice Smith]

its curious why they hardly ever (if ever) do well in the singles chart. lots of poor artists achieve heavy radio rotation without almost any effort, but DMB, as one of the biggest U.S. bands just falls short in this regard. for instance, it'd expect IOY to be a great single. but i don't think it has the mass appeal that a song like I'm Yours by Jason Mraz had. or does the band chooses not to promote heavily on radio ?

[JohnK86]

They are a hell of alot more mainstream than Dave Matthews Band.
100000000000000x more mainstream.

[crushMe814]

after looking at this thread, i decided to call one of my local radio stations and see if the DJ had any info. They play DMB regularly so I figured it would be worth a shot. He said that they don't have any info yet and we got to talking blah blah blah and he took down my email and said when he hears something he will for sure let me know. hopefully he sticks to his word!!

[bibby1044]

I think he means that Metallica is not a band you'll find on mainstream pop/adult alternative radio. Most songs on those stations are 4 minutes TOPS.
:thumbsup thats what I meant, sorry guys maybe I should have worded it differently.

[DIDriveOut2SPAC]

after looking at this thread, i decided to call one of my local radio stations and see if the DJ had any info. They play DMB regularly so I figured it would be worth a shot. He said that they don't have any info yet and we got to talking blah blah blah and he took down my email and said when he hears something he will for sure let me know. hopefully he sticks to his word!!



:thumbsup

[jaymas9]

I'm going to say right now that I guarantee Idea of You or any song we know is not the first single.

[scarbdp]

I'm going to say right now that I guarantee Idea of You or any song we know is not the first single.


and how do you guarantee that?

[solsburyhill]

i change my mind every ten seconds. right now i think it'll be new. tomorrow i'll think it's idea of you.

[ant_marching41]

Wow. Great news. I just hope that its true.

Question to everyone: How long before Stand Up's release was American Baby released as a single?

[jaymas9]

and how do you guarantee that?I have absolutely no information whatsoever. But taking all the things that have been said about this album combined with the approach they seem to be taking, I believe we will not know one song on it, except maybe shotgun. Maybe.

[GraceIsGone40]

Wow. Great news. I just hope that its true.

Question to everyone: How long before Stand Up's release was American Baby released as a single?

I posted this on the previous page. American Baby was released on March 11th, 2005. The album was released on May 10th, 2005. So almost exactly two months before the release date. And assuming April 14th is, for certain, the release date for the new album, two months would be middle of February.

[NextMovement41]

something tells me idea of you will be the single, shotgun albeit a fan favorite, IMO wont show up as a single, and maybe not on the album

[webbo_5]

something tells me idea of you will be the single, shotgun albeit a fan favorite, IMO wont show up as a single, and maybe not on the album

Eh, I think Shotgun has a better chance than Idea Of You of being on the album. Both have a better shot than Cornbread, IMO.

[MPizzle06]

I want Shotgun on the album with all new songs and a new song for the single. :)

[hobbesthecat]

something tells me idea of you will be the single, shotgun albeit a fan favorite, IMO wont show up as a single, and maybe not on the album
if IOY is the first single I will literally puke

[dpjWAF]

after reading this thread i had a horrible thought: what if eh hee is the first single???? they wouldn't do that would they? it would be worse than "i did it" and stand up combined! in the words of ja rule, "i cry, you cry, we cry together."

[TMoore4075]

Why does everyone care so much what the single will be? Yeah it's the only song you'll have until April 14th but after that you never have to listen to it again. Do you sit around and only listen to Crash, a short Stay, Don't Drink the Water, Ants Marching, a short version of Crush and so on...?

[webbo_5]

Why does everyone care so much what the single will be? Yeah it's the only song you'll have until April 14th but after that you never have to listen to it again. Do you sit around and only listen to Crash, a short Stay, Don't Drink the Water, Ants Marching, a short version of Crush and so on...?

There shouldn't be a song on the album that we truly don't want to listen to. That's the point.

[TMoore4075]

There shouldn't be a song on the album that we truly don't want to listen to. That's the point.

OK then but what if it's Idea of You? Some people here like it and some don't. So some people will be skipping it if it's on the album. So it shouldn't be on there or shouldn't be the single just to make the people who don't like it happy?

[dmb5570]

no matter what the first single is, if its awesome or if its crap, some people are going to like it and some arent. but we are just hoping it is a good song. IOY isnt a bad song, just expect better from them this time around.

[mtkelchen]

Well Lil Wayne's single is out this week for his album that will be released a week ahead of DMB's April 14th. So fingers crossed next week! And with Coffin being at Marquette maybe their goal is to finish this or next week?

[bphlzl]

no matter what the first single is, if its awesome or if its crap, some people are going to like it and some arent. but we are just hoping it is a good song. IOY isnt a bad song, just expect better from them this time around.Good point.:thumbsup

I agree. But from a marketing standpoint, IOY seems to fall in the same category as the last two singles (WAYG and AB). The point isn't if every Ant likes it. The point is if the casual listener will like it. I liked it a lot in 2006. However, there is a very good chance this album will be all new songs so arguing about IOY is pointless until we find out it will be on there.

[webbo_5]

OK then but what if it's Idea of You? Some people here like it and some don't. So some people will be skipping it if it's on the album. So it shouldn't be on there or shouldn't be the single just to make the people who don't like it happy?

If IOY is on the album, it surely to christ will have had a face-lift.

I don't think it will be on the album though. It was only played 9 times last summer. Of course, Cornbread was played 2,000,000,000,000,000 times in the last couple years and I don't think it will be the album either.

[2StepintoCrash]

Eh, I think Shotgun has a better chance than Idea Of You of being on the album. Both have a better shot than Cornbread, IMO.

I thought it was pretty much going to be all brand new material? If that is the case...then definitely not Idea of You.

[TMoore4075]

Good point.:thumbsup

I agree. But from a marketing standpoint, IOY seems to fall in the same category as the last two singles (WAYG and AB). The point isn't if every Ant likes it. The point is if the casual listener will like it. I liked it a lot in 2006. However, there is a very good chance this album will be all new songs so arguing about IOY is pointless until we find out it will be on there.

This was kinda my point. The single isn't for us here it's for everyone else. People here don't like WAYG but it got a lot of play in 02 on the raido around here. I'm sure people skip it on the album but does that stop them from lsitening to the whole album? Anways yeah why argue about something that we don't know about yet.
I thought it was pretty much going to be all brand new material? If that is the case...then definitely not Idea of You.

Depends on what they consider "new." We might not consider IOY new but the band might still consider it that way. I don't think they ever said "it's stuff we've never played before."

[MPizzle06]

Honestly I see it being all new material. Parts of unreleased songs may be worked in as they've done countless times in the past, but I do think it will be completely new.

Every day I'm getting more and more antsy and excited!!!

[dmb5570]

This was kinda my point. The single isn't for us here it's for everyone else. People here don't like WAYG but it got a lot of play in 02 on the raido around here. I'm sure people skip it on the album but does that stop them from lsitening to the whole album? Anways yeah why argue about something that we don't know about yet.



But the single should be for us too. There doesnt need to be one song on the album made just for radio. There needs to be 12-15 tracks that are all of similar quality. Management or the band can pick the one they want to use to promote this album and let radio have it. ED and SU arent a good model of how a single should be handled, BTCS is. DDTW doesnt have single written all over it, and thats how it should be, because its still a good song.

[dmb5570]

Honestly I see it being all new material. Parts of unreleased songs may be worked in as they've done countless times in the past, but I do think it will be completely new.

Every day I'm getting more and more antsy and excited!!!


Definitely agree. I dont think we will really hear songs we know, they will be incorporated and used throughout the album though. If they really came up with like 70 riffs, chose 15 to turn into songs, you know some of those riffs he grabbed from things in the past.

[TMoore4075]

But the single should be for us too. There doesnt need to be one song on the album made just for radio. There needs to be 12-15 tracks that are all of similar quality. Management or the band can pick the one they want to use to promote this album and let radio have it. ED and SU arent a good model of how a single should be handled, BTCS is. DDTW doesnt have single written all over it, and thats how it should be, because its still a good song.

I agree there shouldn't be a track made just for the radio but if IOY is on the album and they say hey we want that as the single they aren't going to say the hardcore fans don't like it as much we shouldn't put it out. That's my point. I totally agree with you on just write the album and then decide what will be the single(s).

[TMoore4075]

Also with all the "new" talk, watch the BTCS promo and they say it's all new and fresh but PNP music wasn't new and Halloween wasn't new. So there could still be a few of the songs on there. I personally have no idea what they will do. Just playing devils advocate with the whole new stuff talk.

[spoot388]

IOY would not be a bad single. given what Cavallo can do, it can be a very well produced song. tighten up the lyrics and get carter back to 2006 and it will be a very good song that i think most of us would be happy with. would i like to hear something NEW? sure, but even getting IOY as the single will give us a lot of information about how the new album will be.

[webbo_5]

This was kinda my point. The single isn't for us here it's for everyone else. People here don't like WAYG but it got a lot of play in 02 on the raido around here.

If not for Mr. Deeds, I doubt WAYG would have been the single.


Single didn't always mean weak song for DMB though:

What Would You Say
Too Much
Don't Drink the Water

When their albums started nose-diving, so did their singles. Which makes sense.

[Ryan R]

anyone thought about this? they only played shotgun once last year. maybe its because they KNEW they would be playing it like crazy next tour! hahaha im too hopeful. but i think it's a coinflip on IOY being the single though, but we'll see

[PantalaNagaMan]

Extended Riff Intro (+ Boyd Overlay) -->
Carter Tom and Snare Build Up -->
First Verse -->
2006esque styling Chorus -->
Second Verse -->
Bridge -->
2006esque styling Chorus -->
"I stumble, fall in...." -->
IOY Outro 07/08.

The Idea of You - first single....excellent track if done right.

[webbo_5]

anyone thought about this? they only played shotgun once last year. maybe its because they KNEW they would be playing it like crazy next tour! hahaha im too hopeful. but i think it's a coinflip on IOY being the single though, but we'll see

and they played Cornbread all those times because they knew they were never going to play it again! I like it!

[mburn4jh]

Extended Riff Intro (+ Boyd Overlay) -->
Carter Tom and Snare Build Up -->
First Verse -->
2006esque styling Chorus -->
Second Verse -->
Bridge -->
2006esque styling Chorus -->
"I stumble, fall in...." -->
IOY Outro 07/08.

The Idea of You - first single....excellent track if done right.


yes indeed, yes indeed. I really want to hear this and think it could be a great song, whether or not it should be the single I won't even go there

[dugan1345]

yes indeed, yes indeed. I really want to hear this and think it could be a great song, whether or not it should be the single I won't even go there

idea of you was good the first couple times ive heard it, it has become redundant and its too glam. Way to poppy for what the band can truly deliver in my opinion. I personally feel we will here something new and fresh from this band and not the things that they have been playin on the road. I Hope

[PantalaNagaMan]

idea of you was good the first couple times ive heard it, it has become redundant and its too glam. Way to poppy for what the band can truly deliver in my opinion. I personally feel we will here something new and fresh from this band and not the things that they have been playin on the road. I Hope

I don't see how The Idea of You is "poppy" - The music is gorgeous (especially 2006)...and the lyrics are far better then any Nickleback song.

It's no poppier then Let You Down...fuck it's better then Let You Down.

Personall vendetta against that song, btw. ;)

[dmb5570]

anyone thought about this? they only played shotgun once last year. maybe its because they KNEW they would be playing it like crazy next tour! hahaha im too hopeful. but i think it's a coinflip on IOY being the single though, but we'll see


i was hoping it wouldnt get played at all last year, becuase when it hadnt come out after a little while i was hoping it had been reworked and they didnt want to show it before the album came out. but.......that song has changed everytime they have played it, and they only played it once last year, i think dave has been trying to figure out what to do with it, which direction it needs to go in. thats why i think it has the best chance of making the album, because he never really found his way with that song. songs like 27, IOY, and cornbread didnt change a whole lot. shotgun just has so much potential beyond the other "new" songs.

[MPizzle06]

Switching gears a bit though, that song you hear in that first promo video from last spring sounds so fucking great and I hope that whatever it is that they were working on in that video makes the album.

[iancontijoch]

I don't see how The Idea of You is "poppy" - The music is gorgeous (especially 2006)...and the lyrics are far better then any Nickleback song.

It's no poppier then Let You Down...fuck it's better then Let You Down.

Personall vendetta against that song, btw. ;)


That doesn't add much to your argument haha :lol

How is Let You Down poppy? I think it's the Crash equivalent of Lover Lay Down, only less amazing.

[jaymas9]

Extended Riff Intro (+ Boyd Overlay) -->
Carter Tom and Snare Build Up -->
First Verse -->
2006esque styling Chorus -->
Second Verse -->
Bridge -->
2006esque styling Chorus -->
"I stumble, fall in...." -->
IOY Outro 07/08.

The Idea of You - first single....excellent track if done right.If this were to happen, I'd support it. In 06 it did have a lot of musically redeeming qualities. Especially Carter's drumming.

[solsburyhill]

i was hoping it wouldnt get played at all last year, becuase when it hadnt come out after a little while i was hoping it had been reworked and they didnt want to show it before the album came out. but.......that song has changed everytime they have played it, and they only played it once last year, i think dave has been trying to figure out what to do with it, which direction it needs to go in. thats why i think it has the best chance of making the album, because he never really found his way with that song. songs like 27, IOY, and cornbread didnt change a whole lot. shotgun just has so much potential beyond the other "new" songs.

i really think this is what they did. i think shotgun wasn't finished and they really really wanted to perfect it before we heard it again. i think april 14th, we will hear perfection.

Extended Riff Intro (+ Boyd Overlay) -->
Carter Tom and Snare Build Up -->
First Verse -->
2006esque styling Chorus -->
Second Verse -->
Bridge -->
2006esque styling Chorus -->
"I stumble, fall in...." -->
IOY Outro 07/08.

The Idea of You - first single....excellent track if done right.

that would be fantastic.

[Kook]

We were having this exact same conversation 4 years ago.

Everyone assumed one of the new songs we heard on tour would be the first single. Doesn't anyone remember the pages and pages of debate over Crazy-Easy v Hello Again v Joyride?

It will probably be something spanking new.

But for the sake of this conversation, I think IOY would be a nice single to give DMB some momentum and regain popularity. A lot of my friends range from non-DMB to low/radio fans, but they all think IOY is an awesome song.

I know some of you turn your nose at that thought of pleasing the mainstream, but it helps us in a lot of ways. More tour dates. More appearances. More, more, more DMB.

[GRECObearcat]

We were having this exact same conversation 4 years ago.

Everyone assumed one of the new songs we heard on tour would be the first single. Doesn't anyone remember the pages and pages of debate over Crazy-Easy v Hello Again v Joyride?

It will probably be something spanking new.

But for the sake of this conversation, I think IOY would be a nice single to give DMB some momentum and regain popularity. A lot of my friends range from non-DMB to low/radio fans, but they all think IOY is an awesome song.

I know some of you turn your nose at that thought of pleasing the mainstream, but it helps us in a lot of ways. More tour dates. More appearances. More, more, more DMB.


Yup.

[BigEyedFerg]

New single = Squirm :rolleyes

[madyloy]

I don't see how The Idea of You is "poppy" - The music is gorgeous (especially 2006)...and the lyrics are far better then any Nickleback song.

It's no poppier then Let You Down...fuck it's better then Let You Down.

Personall vendetta against that song, btw. ;)

:lol:lol:lol

[dmb5570]

i really think this is what they did. i think shotgun wasn't finished and they really really wanted to perfect it before we heard it again. i think april 14th, we will hear perfection.



that would be fantastic.


i sure hope so.

[mja271]

IOY has some good elements to it. I really like the horns and the music overall I feel could shine in the studio. I just got burnt out on it really fast. I doubt it will be on the album, but if it is I actually think it could be extremely well done with the full studio treatment.

I got the feeling, especially this year, that they didn't really know what to do with the song. So if they put it on the album I'm sure it would have a good deal of tweaking and reworking to get it to their liking. I agree with the above poster that said 07/08 drums would be cool for like the last chorus, not the whole song though. I do love that bridge part though.

[mandelko1]

I don't see how The Idea of You is "poppy" - The music is gorgeous (especially 2006)...and the lyrics are far better then any Nickleback song.

It's no poppier then Let You Down...fuck it's better then Let You Down.

Personall vendetta against that song, btw. ;)


I post rarely...but I will post for Let You Down. That song is soul through and through. Just putting that song in the same post as Nickleback is a sin. Seriously though, all of DMB's radio releases are "poppier" than Let You Down and if you can't melt into Leroi's whistle solo (what other band is going to give you a whistle solo worth more than it's weight in air) there is something wrong with you.

[mja271]

yea LYD is far from "poppy". People have too much of a negative connotation towards "poppy" in general though. Being poppy does not mean bad. It's just that the pop thats forced down peoples throat on the radio nowadays more often than not is pretty awful. You can have great pop, which is something DMB has been able to achieve in the past. I think whatever the single is, it will probably have a more "pop" appeal than other songs on the CD but hopefully it's something that can be truly enjoyed by both the mainstream and the hardcore fans.

[dmb5570]

i guess i always forget that they worked on IOY in the studio last year. in the video they put out last year, part of the video ended up being that IOY intro. the rest of the song didnt change, just that intro. with roi passing away, who knows, maybe they will use IOY since he worked on it. I still dont think it will be on the album, i just always forget that part from the video.

[Thamlin19]

Radio songs are hits or misses based in large part to their chorus. Idea Of You has a catchy chorus that pretty much everyone can relate to. Combined with a good riff and good drumming, it could be a very successful single. Fortunately, I don't believe it's the type of song that would kill the album just because it was made to be a single.

[Simm0nS]

I had a dream last night that the album came out and the only song we knew was ioy and it was done to perfection n sounded great. It can be an amazing radio song and a well liked song to us if done properly.

[Ryan R]

i was hoping it wouldnt get played at all last year, becuase when it hadnt come out after a little while i was hoping it had been reworked and they didnt want to show it before the album came out. but.......that song has changed everytime they have played it, and they only played it once last year, i think dave has been trying to figure out what to do with it, which direction it needs to go in. thats why i think it has the best chance of making the album, because he never really found his way with that song. songs like 27, IOY, and cornbread didnt change a whole lot. shotgun just has so much potential beyond the other "new" songs.

my exact thoughts my friend. i think the next time he wanted to play it was when it was perfect. last year was not right, but this year will be different. i will be extremely surprised if it does not make it

and they played Cornbread all those times because they knew they were never going to play it again! I like it!

haha close. or they just never knew it would make the album. honestly without tim i think that song would be lacking. i like it a LOT with tim, i think it kicks ass, but without him i think its kinda lame, which is prob why they played it so much because they didnt know how much longer tim would be around lol but now that they know hes here for another year who knows. personally i think they shouldve played it half as many times as they did this year lol

[rick8285]

i would be disappointed in that. unless it gets a nice bit of work in the studio, improve the lyrics and make it a little more exciting. i think id just prefer a new tune.
agree 100%, I want a title I've never heard before

[rick8285]

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

And a song doesn't have to be short to be a single. See Crush. It wasn't the first single, but it was A single. They just cut it down for radio play and was fine. The key is that it should be upbeat.

And again I hope it's not a song we already know, unless it was re-worked and is unfuckingbelievable
DDTW was the first single, and it's like 7 minutes studio

[rick8285]

its curious why they hardly ever (if ever) do well in the singles chart. lots of poor artists achieve heavy radio rotation without almost any effort, but DMB, as one of the biggest U.S. bands just falls short in this regard. for instance, it'd expect IOY to be a great single. but i don't think it has the mass appeal that a song like I'm Yours by Jason Mraz had. or does the band chooses not to promote heavily on radio ?
huge radio hits are VERY rare these days, with so many new artists and so few major labels still around... having said that, "I'm Yours" is a monster hit... one of the biggest in the '00s decade (do we have a name for it yet?)

[#40BigEyedFish]

the big thing now for quote singles, is almost a product placement thing.....ie get it on tv shows, in movies, on commericals (especially itunes commericals) and try and build a big internet base thru viral and youtube.....no one cares what song plays the most on fm radio....fm is dead.....look at what happened to indie 103.1 in LA! if it werent for KCRW in LA and 90.5 WBER in rochester i would never stream or listen to the radio in the car

[Statechamp41]

So it seems like the consensus is that if Idea of You is the single, it has to be done "perfectly" or a lot of the fanbase here will hate it or at least be something less than rapturously happy (which seems to be most peoples definition of "good" around here). I am pretty sure that whenever we do find out (hear?) what the single is, there will be 50 bajillion threads about it...discussing whether or not it is "good". And if it is IOY then I am sure that we'll get a lot of people saying..."oh man I wish that they put on there that one thing they did live on 6/8/06 where carter did this fucking amazing thing and it was amazing but it isn't on the single so now I hate it." Seriously...and there will be the serious thread entitled: "Reasons why the single sucks" that will generate all sorts of discussion and flaming and I can just see my life, and the life of everyone on the boards getting sucked away because we are pissed at "DMB4134KitKatJamAntsMarchingWarehouse*" because they hate the single and WHY? OH GOD WHY DO YOU HATE THE SINGLE? I HAVE NO IDEA WHO YOU ARE BUT JESUS YOU ARE STUPID FOR THINKING THE SINGLE IS BAD!!!

Such is life on the antsmarching.org boards. I am putting the over/under on the first "Rob Cavallo is terrible bring back Lillywhite" thread at 3 days** after the single is released.

*If this is a real member name I am sorry
**maybe even three hours.

[Lesley424]

So it seems like the consensus is that if Idea of You is the single, it has to be done "perfectly" or a lot of the fanbase here will hate it or at least be something less than rapturously happy (which seems to be most peoples definition of "good" around here). I am pretty sure that whenever we do find out (hear?) what the single is, there will be 50 bajillion threads about it...discussing whether or not it is "good". And if it is IOY then I am sure that we'll get a lot of people saying..."oh man I wish that they put on there that one thing they did live on 6/8/06 where carter did this fucking amazing thing and it was amazing but it isn't on the single so now I hate it." Seriously...and there will be the serious thread entitled: "Reasons why the single sucks" that will generate all sorts of discussion and flaming and I can just see my life, and the life of everyone on the boards getting sucked away because we are pissed at "DMB4134KitKatJamAntsMarchingWarehouse*" because they hate the single and WHY? OH GOD WHY DO YOU HATE THE SINGLE? I HAVE NO IDEA WHO YOU ARE BUT JESUS YOU ARE STUPID FOR THINKING THE SINGLE IS BAD!!!

Such is life on the antsmarching.org boards. I am putting the over/under on the first "Rob Cavallo is terrible bring back Lillywhite" thread at 3 days** after the single is released.

*If this is a real member name I am sorry
**maybe even three hours.

:thumbsup That whole post is completely true.

[canes101190]

^ you need a beer sir but nonetheless it does hold some truth

[iancontijoch]

I had a dream last night that the album came out and the only song we knew was ioy and it was done to perfection n sounded great. It can be an amazing radio song and a well liked song to us if done properly.


ME TOO! only it was Shotgun, and there was like a 3 second clip of Dave in the studio trying to come up with lyrics for it. He didn't sound too good for some reason....:confused

[DerekJTR2]

ME TOO! only it was Shotgun, and there was like a 3 second clip of Dave in the studio trying to come up with lyrics for it. He didn't sound too good for some reason....:confused

Cuz you were asleep.

[2StepintoCrash]

No matter what song is released or how great it may or may not be, there will be a bunch of people on here that will not be happy with it. This next album could be of the ilk of "The Big Three" and people would still find a reason to complain or rip it apart.

[webbo_5]

No matter what song is released or how great it may or may not be, there will be a bunch of people on here that will not be happy with it. This next album could be of the ilk of "The Big Three" and people would still find a reason to complain or rip it apart.

I don't think so. Sure, some might complain, but if this album was even half as good as one of the Big 3 then everyone will be ecstatic.

Everyone that bitches about people bitching have no idea what they are talking about and act as if the complainers have no reason to complain.....which is crazy. There has been an insane amount of complaints about the band in the last 8 years and nearly all of them are completely justified.

That said, the '08 tour was amazing and 1,000,000,000x better than '07. I think this new album is going to be solid.

[2StepintoCrash]

People will find something wrong with it no matter how good it is. I think most people are in agreement that the '08 tour was amazing and probably the best one since 2000....forget 2007.

[webbo_5]

People will find something wrong with it no matter how good it is. I think most people are in agreement that the '08 tour was amazing and probably the best one since 2000....forget 2007.

Of course, people will complain. Some didn't like aspects of BTCS. Overall though, if it's good...it will be recognized as such.

It's not like people hated Stand Up because it was different or something new from the band. We hated it because it was fucking lazy and pathetic and we knew the band could do MUCH better.

[2StepintoCrash]

Of course, people will complain. Some didn't like aspects of BTCS. Overall though, if it's good...it will be recognized as such.

It's not like people hated Stand Up because it was different or something new from the band. We hated it because it was fucking lazy and pathetic and we knew the band could do MUCH better.

Exactly!:thumbsup

[iancontijoch]

Cuz you were asleep.


no sir, i have heard some of the most beautiful music that doesn't exist yet while dreaming.

[DIDriveOut2SPAC]

So it seems like the consensus is that if Idea of You is the single, it has to be done "perfectly" or a lot of the fanbase here will hate it or at least be something less than rapturously happy (which seems to be most peoples definition of "good" around here). I am pretty sure that whenever we do find out (hear?) what the single is, there will be 50 bajillion threads about it...discussing whether or not it is "good". And if it is IOY then I am sure that we'll get a lot of people saying..."oh man I wish that they put on there that one thing they did live on 6/8/06 where carter did this fucking amazing thing and it was amazing but it isn't on the single so now I hate it." Seriously...and there will be the serious thread entitled: "Reasons why the single sucks" that will generate all sorts of discussion and flaming and I can just see my life, and the life of everyone on the boards getting sucked away because we are pissed at "DMB4134KitKatJamAntsMarchingWarehouse*" because they hate the single and WHY? OH GOD WHY DO YOU HATE THE SINGLE? I HAVE NO IDEA WHO YOU ARE BUT JESUS YOU ARE STUPID FOR THINKING THE SINGLE IS BAD!!!

Such is life on the antsmarching.org boards. I am putting the over/under on the first "Rob Cavallo is terrible bring back Lillywhite" thread at 3 days** after the single is released.

*If this is a real member name I am sorry
**maybe even three hours.


lol, wut?

[bubba40]

lol, wut?

Yeah no kidding.

[Sniper15]

I'm stunned at how many stupid fucks still think IOY is going to be the first single after Dave has said repeatedly that the album will be all new material

[dmb5570]

I'm stunned at how many stupid fucks still think IOY is going to be the first single after Dave has said repeatedly that the album will be all new material

i dont think IOY will be no the cd or the single, but what makes you think you know what daves definition of new is?

[dsmith45]

i dont think IOY will be no the cd or the single, but what makes you think you know what daves definition of new is?

twit twit

[Ryan R]

wait in the studio lith video, at the beginning werent they talking about songs and stuff? dave says, " but think about it, then go to the other single.... i think the other single could be up here rather than.... (yes), you need that sort of (makes weird noise, maybe says shabang?)". maybe theyve been down to two songs this whole time and are still deciding. that song in the background is NOT IOY. so maybe there's a chance IOY wont be the single. just random speculation. you also have to consider that video was from almost a year ago too.

for those who havent seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQWXMWC4e08

[Flip36]

wait in the studio lith video, at the beginning werent they talking about songs and stuff? dave says, " but think about it, then go to the other single.... i think the other single could be up here rather than.... (yes), you need that sort of (makes weird noise, maybe says shabang?)". maybe theyve been down to two songs this whole time and are still deciding. that song in the background is NOT IOY. so maybe there's a chance IOY wont be the single. just random speculation. you also have to consider that video was from almost a year ago too.

for those who havent seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQWXMWC4e08

that is over a year ago, i would think they may have new ideas on what the first single should be.

[Ryan R]

that is over a year ago, i would think they may have new ideas on what the first single should be.

haha i said that....

[Flip36]

haha i said that....

i know, i was just confirming that... :rolleyes

[TaT3rs]

i can almost guarantee that IOY will not be the single.

[Flip36]

whatever the single is, WPLJ in NYC will be the first to play it.

[webbo_5]

whatever the single is, WPLJ in NYC will be the first to play it.

Why?

[Flip36]

Why?

welp, they are promoting MSG and IZOD, the new album, and they have been playing their songs more often. also, just a little while ago, they played Satellite, the DJ said something like "The Dave Matthews Band hits MSG and the IZOD center in April when they release the new studio album! keep it here to hear the latest from The Dave Matthews Band!" And of course I had spoke to Joey Kramer who plays Dave often and he said they will be giving away tickets to MSG and IZOD the end of this month, and he said they will be promoting the album and single as well.

[Hilly]

welp, they are promoting MSG and IZOD, the new album, and they have been playing their songs more often. also, just a little while ago, they played Satellite, the DJ said something like "The Dave Matthews Band hits MSG and the IZOD center in April when they release the new studio album! keep it here to hear the latest from The Dave Matthews Band!" And of course I had spoke to Joey Kramer who plays Dave often and he said they will be giving away tickets to MSG and IZOD the end of this month, and he said they will be promoting the album and single as well.

a lot of stations will be promoting the album and totally playing DMB songs.

[Flip36]

a lot of stations will be promoting the album and totally playing DMB songs.

this is true.

[webbo_5]

a lot of stations will be promoting the album and totally playing DMB songs.

:thumbsup

[Rickster885]

I'm excited about the new single, but I doubt we'll get a tracklisting then as well. Usually those are released close to the album's release date.

[dmbfan4ever]

wait in the studio lith video, at the beginning werent they talking about songs and stuff? dave says, " but think about it, then go to the other single.... i think the other single could be up here rather than.... (yes), you need that sort of (makes weird noise, maybe says shabang?)". maybe theyve been down to two songs this whole time and are still deciding. that song in the background is NOT IOY. so maybe there's a chance IOY wont be the single. just random speculation. you also have to consider that video was from almost a year ago too.

for those who havent seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQWXMWC4e08
I believe he says "section" not "single."

[Joyride4136]

IOY is great. i just listened to LT9 and i hadnt heard it in ages. the horn part is great, and carter is STILL fantastic.

[Ryan R]

I believe he says "section" not "single."

well first he says single, then section, so my bad

[DaveMB36]

See the thing that people should understand is IOY could easily be a single for the album. But i would be shocked if it was the first single. For not being in the mainstream for a while i would assume that they would want to put out a more upbeat song. IOY could make a great second single especially if it was released in the summer time after the first single gets old. A very nice summer love song that would get girls to take their cloths off.

Look at DMB single past:

UTTAD-WWYS first
Crash-SMTS first then the softer song of Crash into me
BTCS- DDTW first then Crush (correct me if i'm wrong)
ED- I did it then the slower SB
BS- not sure what was first....if it was WAYG then my theory is flawed but i think you get what i'm trying to say

[TMoore4075]

See the thing that people should understand is IOY could easily be a single for the album. But i would be shocked if it was the first single. For not being in the mainstream for a while i would assume that they would want to put out a more upbeat song. IOY could make a great second single especially if it was released in the summer time after the first single gets old. A very nice summer love song that would get girls to take their cloths off.

Look at DMB single past:

UTTAD-WWYS first
Crash-SMTS first then the softer song of Crash into me
BTCS- DDTW first then Crush (correct me if i'm wrong)
ED- I did it then the slower SB
BS- not sure what was first....if it was WAYG then my theory is flawed but i think you get what i'm trying to say

WAYG was first followed by Grey Street.

[Billies31]

was that from weqxmusic?

[davetripping02]

even if the single comes out at the end of this month, still find it kindof weird that they havent really sent any videos out of what they are doing except that one and that website hasent been touched... maybe they just want to keep it really tight on what they are doing...guess pics will have to do.

[jason41]

BTCS- DDTW first then Crush (correct me if i'm wrong)

DDTW --> Stay --> Crush...I think :confused

[atrippingbillie]

Maybe they are keeping this so tight lipped cause its the best albumn ever!!!

:/

[bphlzl]

even if the single comes out at the end of this month, still find it kindof weird that they havent really sent any videos out of what they are doing except that one and that website hasent been touched... maybe they just want to keep it really tight on what they are doing...guess pics will have to do.We'll get something soon, but I'm not surprised that they have kept us waiting. They are smart for keeping any real news from leaking. We will get a single within a month, and then probably one video also before the album comes out.

I expect a spectacular documentation of the making of this album to come with it or proceed it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Rob Cavallo say during one of the interviews he gave that he sees albums becoming more interactive or something in the near future considering all the piracy that occurs which results in a huge loss of profits for record companies?

[Rockyall107]

hes not saying single..hes saying "session" because they recorded it more than once im sure

[DerekJTR2]

hes not saying single..hes saying "session" because they recorded it more than once im sure

Section. SECK-SHUN.

[bibby1044]

Section. SECK-SHUN.
:eek omgz teh mispelled wordzz.

[1saweetworld]

I guess Dave posted on Twitter last night and was talking about a new song called squirm. This is pretty much the first time dave has really talked about any singles so im thinking maybe this could be his new single???

[dmb5570]

I guess Dave posted on Twitter last night and was talking about a new song called squirm. This is pretty much the first time dave has really talked about any singles so im thinking maybe this could be his new single???


seriously? alter?

[MPizzle06]

seriously? alter?

That's what I'm thinking

[1saweetworld]

seriously? alter?


what do you mean alter?

[Taylor/Martin]

what do you mean alter?

Like alter-ego, you know...Clark Kent/Superman, Bruce Wayne/Batman, or Butch Taylor/Yosemite Sam

[dmb5570]

that squirm thing by dave wasnt last night. and you joined this month and it was your first post. just seemed like someone trying to stir shit up.

[1saweetworld]

that squirm thing by dave wasnt last night. and you joined this month and it was your first post. just seemed like someone trying to stir shit up.


i wasnt trying to start anything. i got the info from *******.net

And nobody has really said anything about squirm so i thought that should be put into consideration on being the new single other than IDOY and shotgun

[dmb5570]

thats cool if you only recently saw it, it has been talked about a lot on the boards here.

[Taylor/Martin]

i wasnt trying to start anything. i got the info from *******.net

And nobody has really said anything about squirm so i thought that should be put into consideration on being the new single other than IDOY and shotgun

:thumbsup

Well, nice work then for adding that to the convo. There are just a lot of stupid people sometimes that come on here with alters and mess around.

[RolandsThinny]

Because I'm slightly bored at work I decided to look through the news archive here at am.org to find when the first REAL news of the singles and tracklisting and crap came out. That might give us all a little perspective as to how close they have come to the release date of the album before hearing anything. March 14th 2005 was the first we heard American Baby (more than likely). Official track listing was April 7th. The album was released May 10th. That is very close to a month before the release date and we didn't have a tracklisting yet. We may not hear about the tracklisting for a while yet. However the single could be happening very soon.

[mikepalmer2005]

Because I'm slightly bored at work I decided to look through the news archive here at am.org to find when the first REAL news of the singles and tracklisting and crap came out. That might give us all a little perspective as to how close they have come to the release date of the album before hearing anything. March 14th 2005 was the first we heard American Baby (more than likely). Official track listing was April 7th. The album was released May 10th. That is very close to a month before the release date and we didn't have a tracklisting yet. We may not hear about the tracklisting for a while yet. However the single could be happening very soon.

im looking forward to pulling up AM.org and seeing "and the new single is...."

[atrippingbillie]

im looking forward to pulling up AM.org and seeing "and the new single is...."

:lol me too...

first thing i do is go to AM.org just in hopes i'll see

"Insert Name" first DMB single of their new albumn "Insert Name"

[Billies09]

:lol me too...

first thing i do is go to AM.org just in hopes i'll see

"Insert Name" first DMB single of their new albumn "Insert Name"

Yes!! Me three!! :)

[atrippingbillie]

Yes!! Me three!! :)

The day will be soon my friend


and we will be dancing

[clcfball11]

Anyone know how credible the guy is at TDC that claims IOY will be announced as the first single tomorrow?

[atrippingbillie]

Anyone know how credible the guy is at TDC that claims IOY will be announced as the first single tomorrow?

Hopefully 100%




even though its IOY, its news, we'll take anything

[cworty06]

I've said it all along, until its announced otherwise, I am fairly confident Idea of You will be the first single

It's potential for mainstream popularity is undeniable

[Lesley424]

I think that if we're gonna get a single released, it would be on a tuesday because all new music get released/added to itunes on "New Music Tuesdays." Hopefully the guy at TDC is right, but if we don't get anything tomorrow, my guess is that we'll have to wait another week.

[Swizz2007]

Highly doubt we'll get a single tomorrow

[bigsho]

DaveJMatthews: We are working to get the album done. Good good. I hope you all agree. I hope you like it. Listen and listen before you judge. I love it.

Listen and listen before we judge? Hint about hearing something soon?

[clcfball11]

DaveJMatthews: We are working to get the album done. Good good. I hope you all agree. I hope you like it. Listen and listen before you judge. I love it.

Listen and listen before we judge? Hint about hearing something soon?

Like tomorrow? :) :bounce

[DIDriveOut2SPAC]

I wonder if him and stefan are like working on it RIGHT NOW

[kiwinick]

If IOY is on the album, it surely to christ will have had a face-lift.

I don't think it will be on the album though. It was only played 9 times last summer. Of course, Cornbread was played 2,000,000,000,000,000 times in the last couple years and I don't think it will be the album either.

I wish this to be true!

[Firedancer627]

I'm confused...what is TDC(maybe i should read some back threads)..And what's this about hearing something today?? I highly doubt that, but it would be awesome. I was distracted from the album threads b/c of the Grammy F-up...which I'm still sore about.:mad

[Panther41]

DaveJMatthews: We are working to get the album done. Good good. I hope you all agree. I hope you like it. Listen and listen before you judge. I love it.

Listen and listen before we judge? Hint about hearing something soon?

I'm pretty sure what he means is: It's going to surprise you all, it's not quite like any of our other albums, don't freak out.

[Candice Smith]

i think this album will be very different. and judging by the past reaction to the band changing their sound, odds are that most people will not like it.

[bibby1044]

I hope the single is brand new, none of this ioy shit.

[Hilly]

DaveJMatthews: We are working to get the album done. Good good. I hope you all agree. I hope you like it. Listen and listen before you judge. I love it.

Listen and listen before we judge? Hint about hearing something soon?

I really dont understand the leaps people make with small comments.

[BigEyedFerg]

i think this album will be very different. and judging by the past reaction to the band changing their sound, odds are that most people will not like it.

DMB ---> Rock is a much smoother transition than DMB ---> Pop/hiphop

It will be different but accessible if you ask me, and I have a strong feeling most people will dig it, especially if some semblance of lyrical and musical coherence is displayed (unlike Stand Up --- the only coherence there was that it all fucking sucked)

[LifeInStereo]

I'm confused...what is TDC(maybe i should read some back threads)

TDC = These Days Continue. It's another DMB fan site, and judging by what I read on the forums here, the info on TDC is often sketchy/untrue. I have spent about 0 minutes over there myself, so don't blast me for doubting their credibility - that's just what I've heard a lot of other people say over here.

[sdaltons]

TDC = These Days Continue. It's another DMB fan site, and judging by what I read on the forums here, the info on TDC is often sketchy/untrue. I have spent about 0 minutes over there myself, so don't blast me for doubting their credibility - that's just what I've heard a lot of other people say over here.
funny thing is, no one there ever claimed it as fact that we'd get single info today. that poster was just making a prediction based on feeling, very much like what happens here. yet some people here read it from there and, for some unknown reason, assumed they have more accurate info then ants, so it must be true.

and for the record, i agree with that poster that it'll either be today, or thursday at the latest.

[Firedancer627]

TDC = These Days Continue. It's another DMB fan site, and judging by what I read on the forums here, the info on TDC is often sketchy/untrue. I have spent about 0 minutes over there myself, so don't blast me for doubting their credibility - that's just what I've heard a lot of other people say over here.

Thanks! I never heard of them...Guess I'm not missing much then. I would think/hope that whenever the new single is set...the *******tudioalbum.com will launch...and the promotions will begin. I can dig IOY being released first, if that's the case. It's not a bad tune, especially the '06 versions. At this point I don't care what the release is...I just want to hear new songs!:leroi

[JimiThing3403]

Single drops on itunes today?? most all come out on tuesdays

[sdaltons]

Single drops on itunes today?? most all come out on tuesdays
i think its announced today or thursday. comes out next week.

next tuesday would be about right if you consider when american baby came out in relation to stand up's release.

also, singles SOMETIMES come out on mondays. just saying.

[mja271]

I don't post on TDC but I read over there a little bit and find it laughable that so many people on Ants talk about their "sketchy & untrue info" all the time. This place is just as bad if not worse in terms of reliability. There's legitimately about 1 or 2 people in the know on each site. Everybody else is just guessing.

[Firedancer627]

When "American Baby" was released...it was hyped a few weeks before...Didn't VH1 have a DMB special, and at the end they showed the video? I think they did the same for "Dreamgirl". Of course, when SU was released, the studio website gave us tons of material to look at...This time there is nothing but speculation and hype, lol let alone a title....which makes it that much better to see what will be released.

[Swizz2007]

Garden Horse

[BigEyedFerg]

Garden Horse

:eek:eek

lol, if these rumored track titles end up being true, this album will have some of the weirdest song names to date.

[Firedancer627]

:eek:eek

lol, if these rumored track titles end up being true, this album will have some of the weirdest song names to date.

lol no worse than kit kat jam or heathcliff's haiku warriors...or blue water baboon farm..haha:thumbsup:thumbsup

[BigEyedFerg]

lol no worse than kit kat jam or heathcliff's haiku warriors...or blue water baboon farm..haha:thumbsup:thumbsup

...which is why these rumored names are actually getting me excited :D

[MustangD]

I'd be shocked if they just dropped the single on us and said "oh by the way, the single can be downloaded right now...". I would think there would be some lead in time for marketing to establish some sort of campaign and awareness about the single & album. Outside of "us fans" - the casual music fan isn't even aware that the band has a new album coming out.

[MikeTheStone]

Wow...That text from ants got me sooo excited. I thought it was the single for sure...

Now i'm sad. :leroi

[sdaltons]

I'd be shocked if they just dropped the single on us and said "oh by the way, the single can be downloaded right now...". I would think there would be some lead in time for marketing to establish some sort of campaign and awareness about the single & album. Outside of "us fans" - the casual music fan isn't even aware that the band has a new album coming out.
if the single is good enough, it'll market itself

[dmbmuskie]

I'd be shocked if they just dropped the single on us and said "oh by the way, the single can be downloaded right now...". I would think there would be some lead in time for marketing to establish some sort of campaign and awareness about the single & album. Outside of "us fans" - the casual music fan isn't even aware that the band has a new album coming out.

Their marketing sucks, so this would not surprise me.

[LowEnd_Theory]

So people are thinking its coming out today huh? Is there any reason for me to believe this? Or just people trying to make an educated guess?

[MustangD]

Their marketing sucks, so this would not surprise me.

Yeah, I forgot about that.

[solsburyhill]

a few tdc posters have said it and a few people have sources that have said some news will come today... who knows anymore with the way these things are going.

[LowEnd_Theory]

a few tdc posters have said it and a few people have sources that have said some news will come today... who knows anymore with the way these things are going.

:thumbsup Alright Im not gonna hold out mch hope for that, just b/c it seems when I wish these things are going to happen, they dont.

Also, I think its funny how a lot of people here think TDC is bullshit since weve gotten more legit info from there recently than anything on here. Funny how that works out.

[MustangD]

a few tdc posters have said it and a few people have sources that have said some news will come today... who knows anymore with the way these things are going.

:eek are we that lucky?

[solsburyhill]

they think we are bullshit and vice versa. it's truly the luck of the draw. we have more rumors here simply because we are larger.

anyways, i'm taking a nap. i hope to wake up to a brilliant array of new info.

[cworty06]

I was hoping to wake up to some new info...surprise, surprise there's nothing :shrug

[#40BigEyedFish]

i heard the single......its interesting there is a violin solo and a sax solo and dave sings

[JimiThng80]

:confused

[lockman21]

i heard the single......its interesting there is a violin solo and a sax solo and dave sings

You're just trying to get banned huh?

Pretty boring/lame way to do it.

[dmb5570]

there was no real info over at tdc about the single today. someone just said it messing around. if you guys go over there, at least read the threads and get a context of what is being said. people see what they want to see then believe it as gospel, then get pissed about that site when it doesnt come true when they had no reason to believe it at all. i could say right now that the band is releasing a huge amount of information about the album on thursday, but it doesnt mean you are just giogn to believe me. so for the record....at this point we really know nothing other than the album is set to drop 4/14.

[sdaltons]

there was no real info over at tdc about the single today. someone just said it messing around. if you guys go over there, at least read the threads and get a context of what is being said. people see what they want to see then believe it as gospel, then get pissed about that site when it doesnt come true when they had no reason to believe it at all. i could say right now that the band is releasing a huge amount of information about the album on thursday, but it doesnt mean you are just giogn to believe me. so for the record....at this point we really know nothing other than the album is set to drop 4/14.
the best part of it was that the tdc post that started it all just said something about hoping for new single INFO today.

now its we're getting the single today.

[dmb5570]

one did say that the single was coming out today.................then a post or two later it just said IOY.
but nothing too difficult to realize it was just someone spouting nothing important.