***Official Camden, NJ 2010 Thread***

[brian2480]

I got confirmed for pavilion reserved. is this pit or like section 100/200??

[rickyh24]

I got confirmed for pavilion reserved. is this pit or like section 100/200??

Could be anything in the pavilion with the exception of pit.

[LisaH]

2005 seniority ftw.
I'm glad I let my 2001 membership lapse, we probably would have been screwed otherwise.
I got confirmed for pavilion reserved. is this pit or like section 100/200??
100/200

[Servo]

Pavilion both nights

[rickyh24]

I'm glad I let my 2001 membership lapse, we probably would have been screwed otherwise.


Seniority is overrated.

[cotton#36]

PIt N1 so that means N2 as well :evil!!! HELL YEA but i got PAVS for N2

[rickyh24]

PIt N1 so that means N2 as well :evil!!!

lol don't be that guy

[cotton#36]

hahah they are so stupid there though I got up to the 8th row at Scranton last year with my Camden N1 ticket stub and ended up getting a drum stick!!

[timshaner]

Hear more pit than pavs .. Pit gonna be 800 deep???????

[kfpoling]

i got pav both nights

[kfpoling]

i got pav both nights

I have 3 pav for N1 and 4 pav for N2


first day WH account, if anyone has pit and would prefer a seat, let me know;)

[bradshaw06]

got reserved for both nights, so pumped about another two shows in the cmd

[sdmc229]

got reserved for both nights, so pumped about another two shows in the cmd

same here

[nathan.davidson]

I can't believe I got 8 tickets in the Pit :lol

hey, if you're looking for someone to stand with, just let me know :leroi I'm a camden veteran

[kfpoling]

hey, if you're looking for someone to stand with, just let me know :leroi I'm a camden veteran

i'll come with you too:lol

I'm great at standing. and i can hold peoples spots while they take a bathroom break/beer run:lol

[hoggdogg]

So my boyfriend pulled some tickets off livenation/ticketbastard this morning for N1 and said they were 'pit' but had a row & seat #'s attached ... so now I am very confused.

I have no desire to be in the pit. I need a seat. I pee a lot, so I need something to come back to...

ugh.

[spoot388]

So my boyfriend pulled some tickets off livenation/ticketbastard this morning for N1 and said they were 'pit' but had a row & seat #'s attached ... so now I am very confused.

I have no desire to be in the pit. I need a seat. I pee a lot, so I need something to come back to...

ugh.


PIT tickets have seat numbers apparently just to keep track of how many there are. the pit is just standing though. you can trade them though. kayla (kfpoling) is looking to trade pavilion for pit.

[rickyh24]

How can we find out how many people will be in the pit?

[swemnaked]

I'll be a first time at Camden (as I will be at a number of venues so you may see this on a few threads), but how likely is the lawn to sell out?
Also coming to Jimmy Buffett in August.

[spoot388]

How can we find out how many people will be in the pit?

are the seats in the pit removable? if so, take the number of pit seats and multiply by 2 and then add some more. taking out seats will open up A LOT of space. i'm guessing a few hundred.



I'll be a first time at Camden (as I will be at a number of venues so you may see this on a few threads), but how likely is the lawn to sell out?
Also coming to Jimmy Buffett in August.


good chance, but it won't happen until some time in june. usually lawn seats for most venues are available a couple weeks before the show.

[chefn29]

"are the seats in the pit removable? if so, take the number of pit seats and multiply by 2 and then add some more. taking out seats will open up A LOT of space. i'm guessing a few hundred."




I don't know this to be 100% true but my understanding of the pit thing is that the venue can't sell more GA Pit tix than they would have sold had there been seats in place. This is due to fire codes. That is why you may find seat and row assignments on GA tix....for the venues own accounting. One guy on the WH boards said that his GA Lawn tix said Sec. 350 seat 10045!

[rickyh24]

I bet if someone calls the venue they will say how many pit tickets were available. Some people in other threads were saying there will be around 1000 people in the GA Pit. That seems high to me.

[rickyh24]

are the seats in the pit removable? if so, take the number of pit seats and multiply by 2 and then add some more. taking out seats will open up A LOT of space. i'm guessing a few hundred.


I'm pretty sure they are. I'm guessing taking out the seats will allow around double the people to fit in the area. I just have no idea how many seats are in the pit.

[TRthegame53]

We had pit tickets here for the Download Festival (The Killers and The Stooges headliners) in August 2008. We were on the back rail no more than 60 feet from the stage. I'd say about 500-600 people total in the pit.

[swemnaked]

appreciate it spoot, most sold out shows that I've been too were on weekends so I wasn't sure how it would be with Camden.

[firedancer811]

Its only almost March and I'm stoked for Camden :bounce should be an awesome time. One question, whos got my pit tickets?!?! :D

[cotton#36]

HAHA i got pit for N1 cant Wait!!! just somewhere in the PAV for N2.

[sdmc229]

when there were seats, there were 8 rows (7 with 40 seats and 1 with 20) for 300 seats. So if they double the capacity without seats, 600. Or, they can try to cram as many as possible.

[rickyh24]

when there were seats, there were 8 rows (7 with 40 seats and 1 with 20) for 300 seats. So if they double the capacity without seats, 600. Or, they can try to cram as many as possible.

I'm sure they have to meet some kind of fire code. I would be surprised if they crammed more than double the people in.

[camaroz28dmb]

just pulled 2 pavilion on TM. section 101. true true

[rickyh24]

just pulled 2 pavilion on TM. section 101. true true

Nice grab.

[barntotheish]

just pulled 2 pavilion on TM. section 101. true true

Just checked it out online, i pulled ROW 101. Its Lawn. Price is $40.00 also, so you know its not the section 101. Heads up.

[eric81485]

If anyone has an extra night 2 ticket, I need one. I'm hoping for pit or lower pavillion. Thanks

[sdmc229]

I'm sure they have to meet some kind of fire code. I would be surprised if they crammed more than double the people in.


I would hope, but if LN/TM can join forces, I am sure they can get around any kind of local fire code.

I agree with you; I doubt they could get more than 2x the number of seats.

[GrooGrux420]

Just booked my airline ticket. Now I need a single for each night, preferably Pit. Either Cash, or have a Gorge N3 and Dallas Pit singles for trade.

[dantefab]

when there were seats, there were 8 rows (7 with 40 seats and 1 with 20) for 300 seats. So if they double the capacity without seats, 600. Or, they can try to cram as many as possible.

Thanks sdmc. I have been wondering since Fri about an approximate capacity for the PIT here!

[dmbhokie]

hey all. thinking about adding another venue to the list but was hoping you'd be able to give me a little information on the vibe of the place? how's the people? how's the parking and pregame like? how's the drive into the venue? are the parking security people cool? any information you have i would greatly appreciate it. thanks

[kfpoling]

hey all. thinking about adding another venue to the list but was hoping you'd be able to give me a little information on the vibe of the place? how's the people? how's the parking and pregame like? how's the drive into the venue? are the parking security people cool? any information you have i would greatly appreciate it. thanks
the people are awesome, there are a few parking lots you can park in

campbells I believe one is called and it's a bunch of high school and college kids +a bunch of older people who love acting stupid?
many nitrous tanks, kids vomiting, etc

then there are other lots that have awesome people and everyone has a great time (without being obnoxious or stupid):thumbsup

the security people were pretty cool all around as far as I could tell

the only downside of Camden is that the area surrounding the venue/lots is pretty damn sketchy

[dmbhokie]

thanks a lot. :thumbsup
the people are awesome, there are a few parking lots you can park in

campbells I believe one is called and it's a bunch of high school and college kids +a bunch of older people who love acting stupid?
many nitrous tanks, kids vomiting, etc

then there are other lots that have awesome people and everyone has a great time (without being obnoxious or stupid):thumbsup

the security people were pretty cool all around as far as I could tell

the only downside of Camden is that the area surrounding the venue/lots is pretty damn sketchy

[nathan.davidson]

thanks a lot. :thumbsup

The catch is that the close lot (without the high school "class trips") opens a little later than most people like, about 4:00. But if you skip the opener, that shouldnt be a big deal. I much prefer the quieter, closer lots to the huge, packed lot that is about a 10 minute walk

[camaroz28dmb]

Just checked it out online, i pulled ROW 101. Its Lawn. Price is $40.00 also, so you know its not the section 101. Heads up.

been doing this for 12 years now, i didnt pull lawn seats. i can also read with the set of eyes that the gracious god gave to me.

[flintfury57]

Hey i was wondering if anyone had a extra warehouse reserved lawn ticket for n1? Thanks

[dantefab]

Hey i was wondering if anyone had a extra warehouse reserved lawn ticket for n1? Thanks

I know there are still some single seats and plenty of lawn seats available through TM.

[dmbhokie]

The catch is that the close lot (without the high school "class trips") opens a little later than most people like, about 4:00. But if you skip the opener, that shouldnt be a big deal. I much prefer the quieter, closer lots to the huge, packed lot that is about a 10 minute walk

cool. thank you. i heard there was a ferry that can take you to the venue. is this true? is this something worth thinking about or would you just drive and park?

[jiggajm18]

cool. thank you. i heard there was a ferry that can take you to the venue. is this true? is this something worth thinking about or would you just drive and park?

that's correct, there is a ferry. if you're staying in philly, it might be something worth doing.

the ferry ride to the venue is so beautiful. personally, i'd recommend it. i've done it a few times and it was very enjoyable, especially on a nice hot summer day.

[jiggajm18]

the people are awesome, there are a few parking lots you can park in

campbells I believe one is called and it's a bunch of high school and college kids +a bunch of older people who love acting stupid?
many nitrous tanks, kids vomiting, etc

then there are other lots that have awesome people and everyone has a great time (without being obnoxious or stupid):thumbsup

the security people were pretty cool all around as far as I could tell

the only downside of Camden is that the area surrounding the venue/lots is pretty damn sketchy

:thumbsup

campbells lot sucks. when i was in college, i hung out there because all of my friends did. i never miss the start of a show, but almost everyone in that lot goes for the party and doesn't care at all about the band.

i agree that the area around camden sucks, however, there is a bar right across from the venue (i forget the name of it). it's a really nice bar and is a fun place to hang out both before and after the show.

[sdmc229]

cool. thank you. i heard there was a ferry that can take you to the venue. is this true? is this something worth thinking about or would you just drive and park?

The ferry is OK, I think $6 round trip. Only problem is long lines going over and even longer coming back.

If you are staying in Philly, I recommend PATCO from 8th & Market $2.50 round trip and less waiting. You can catch a trolly from City hall in Camden or walk to the venue ~10 minutes and not really sketchy, as there are many people doing the same

[hawkma2]

Good Afternoon Camden Ants!

I am going to book our hotel tonight or tomorrow for the 30th and the 1st. I see there are alot of cheep hotels within 8 miles from the venue. We do not care much about the condition of the hotel but I am concerned about the safety of the area. I have heard that Camden and the surrounding areas are a bit sketchy and I was hoping that I could get some advice on where to stay or not to stay. Here is the list of places on Expedia with cheep rooms:

Cherry Hill
Brooklawn
Mount Laurel
Bellmawr
Maple Shade
Gloucester City

Do any of these places scream "if you value your life, DO NOT STAY HERE"? Is there any place that is better than other with easier access to the venue? Any general advice would be very greatly apprieciated.

:multiWe are so excited to come over your way and check out your venue for the first time. Have a happy day.

Thanks,
Mindy

[spoot388]

cool. thank you. i heard there was a ferry that can take you to the venue. is this true? is this something worth thinking about or would you just drive and park?


do NOT take the ferry!!


it is such a waste of time. last year i left before Time Bomb was even over and had to wait over an hour and a half to get back to philly. for N2, i parked in the venue lot and was out before the band's tour buses.



Good Afternoon Camden Ants!

I am going to book our hotel tonight or tomorrow for the 30th and the 1st. I see there are alot of cheep hotels within 8 miles from the venue. We do not care much about the condition of the hotel but I am concerned about the safety of the area. I have heard that Camden and the surrounding areas are a bit sketchy and I was hoping that I could get some advice on where to stay or not to stay. Here is the list of places on Expedia with cheep rooms:

Cherry Hill
Brooklawn
Mount Laurel
Bellmawr
Maple Shade
Gloucester City

Do any of these places scream "if you value your life, DO NOT STAY HERE"? Is there any place that is better than other with easier access to the venue? Any general advice would be very greatly apprieciated.

:multiWe are so excited to come over your way and check out your venue for the first time. Have a happy day.

Thanks,
Mindy



Cherry Hill is a pretty good area. really anything along Rt 38 or 70 is good. there is a Days Inn on 38 i believe and there is a Wal-Mart like right across the street. its pretty easy to get around that area. 70 is a bit of a pain in the ass. and if you do stay on 70, DO NOT think about going back to the Turkey Hill for snacks. you can't turn around and you'll get lost for like a half hour. having stayed on both roads, personally i'd stay on 38 again before 70.

[sdmc229]

do NOT take the ferry!!


it is such a waste of time. last year i left before Time Bomb was even over and had to wait over an hour and a half to get back to philly. for N2, i parked in the venue lot and was out before the band's tour buses.



:thumbsup Only difference for me is we took PATCO

[barntotheish]

[/quote]Cherry Hill is a pretty good area. really anything along Rt 38 or 70 is good. there is a Days Inn on 38 i believe and there is a Wal-Mart like right across the street. its pretty easy to get around that area. 70 is a bit of a pain in the ass. and if you do stay on 70, DO NOT think about going back to the Turkey Hill for snacks. you can't turn around and you'll get lost for like a half hour. having stayed on both roads, personally i'd stay on 38 again before 70.[/quote]

Good advice for those coming from out of state. Cherry Hill is the easiest/closest/safest. NJ doesn't like left turns on major roads, we do jughandles instead. Just means you may have to pass your destination and turn around to get on the correct side of the road. It's really not that hard.

[hawkma2]

Thanks. Looks like cherry hill it is. Seems like sooo far away, but it will come faster than most of us would expect.

[dimeglio]

hey can you send me the 2 camden shows from 08. i was there def best show ever. exp the 4th

[camaroz28dmb]

hey can you send me the 2 camden shows from 08. i was there def best show ever. exp the 4th

www.dreamingtree.org (http://www.dreamingtree.org)

[jiggajm18]

hey can you send me the 2 camden shows from 08. i was there def best show ever. exp the 4th

i can upload these for you if you want

[jhurleyants]

Decided to try Camden this year for a show - and got 2 pav seats through the WH. I've never been to Camden, though, and checking out this thread, it sounds like the area around the venue is sketchy. What's the best way in and out to avoid all that? Thanks.

[spoot388]

Decided to try Camden this year for a show - and got 2 pav seats through the WH. I've never been to Camden, though, and checking out this thread, it sounds like the area around the venue is sketchy. What's the best way in and out to avoid all that? Thanks.


"sketchy" is an understatement :lol

camden is one of the worst cities in the country in terms of crime, drugs, and poverty. why they decided to put a concert pavilion, an aquarium, and a minor league baseball stadium i have no idea. the waterfront (where all those are located) is nice but the rest of the city is awful.

just park in the venue lot. i'm pretty sure its on MLK Dr. google map it and you'll find it. when you leave, its pretty much a straight shot along a major road to the highways to either go into NJ or across the river back into philly where you can pick up I-95 among other highways. its not hard, just gotta know where you need to go. i would definitely study the map a bit before the shows so you have an idea of where you are when you're there.

[bradshaw06]

"sketchy" is an understatement :lol

camden is one of the worst cities in the country in terms of crime, drugs, and poverty. why they decided to put a concert pavilion, an aquarium, and a minor league baseball stadium i have no idea. the waterfront (where all those are located) is nice but the rest of the city is awful.

just park in the venue lot. i'm pretty sure its on MLK Dr. google map it and you'll find it. when you leave, its pretty much a straight shot along a major road to the highways to either go into NJ or across the river back into philly where you can pick up I-95 among other highways. its not hard, just gotta know where you need to go. i would definitely study the map a bit before the shows so you have an idea of where you are when you're there.

:lol i remember a few years ago someone made a thread on ants asking if there was good camping at camden

[zachyd]

so, this is gonna be my first year at Camden. any advice, tips, or pointers?

[bradshaw06]

so, this is gonna be my first year at Camden. any advice, tips, or pointers?
dont go to far away from the lots and venue, in the city at least.

[jhurleyants]

"sketchy" is an understatement :lol

camden is one of the worst cities in the country in terms of crime, drugs, and poverty. why they decided to put a concert pavilion, an aquarium, and a minor league baseball stadium i have no idea. the waterfront (where all those are located) is nice but the rest of the city is awful.

just park in the venue lot. i'm pretty sure its on MLK Dr. google map it and you'll find it. when you leave, its pretty much a straight shot along a major road to the highways to either go into NJ or across the river back into philly where you can pick up I-95 among other highways. its not hard, just gotta know where you need to go. i would definitely study the map a bit before the shows so you have an idea of where you are when you're there.

Thanks.

I'm looking at the map, but I have no idea what areas are the ones to avoid. If you go down Mickle Blvd straight to the venue - is that okay?

thanks again.

[paulaugustus]

Thanks.

I'm looking at the map, but I have no idea what areas are the ones to avoid. If you go down Mickle Blvd straight to the venue - is that okay?

thanks again.

all the good hotels are in philly right across the river. there's a ferry that accomodates concert goers. if you have to drive, map it out to be safe, but there will be a flow of traffic.

[jiggajm18]

Thanks.

I'm looking at the map, but I have no idea what areas are the ones to avoid. If you go down Mickle Blvd straight to the venue - is that okay?

thanks again.

you don't really have to worry if you are driving.

however, if you really are worried, you can take public transportation.

[paulaugustus]

in reality, there will be far more criminal activity right in the venue parking lot. but for some reason, this doesn't concern us. perhaps we should take a look at this hypocrisy.

[bots444]

Your best bet if your coming from the Philly area is to get on ML King Blvd / Mickle Blvd. Just follow that straight and you will pretty much dead end right at the tweeter center. The lots are right there.

[sdmc229]

so, this is gonna be my first year at Camden. any advice, tips, or pointers?

Yes, there is crime in Camden.

The standard advice stands:
1. Know your surroundings.
2. Pay attention to things going on around you.
3. Do not put yourself in a stupid situation.

I have been going to shows in Camden for many years, and my wife and I have walked from the venue to the transportation center after giving up on the ferry. I have never had a problem.

[Json417]

yea i made the trip last year for the first time, I was expecting worse than what i saw, minus the chaos in the lots with kids tailgating. but i had a great time, deffinatly heading back this year.

[curlycal]

i mean... its really not that big of a deal. know that it is a dangerous city, but the area you will be spending most of your time in is not bad. just follow the bros.

if anything... you should be more afraid of the nitrous mafia.

[Json417]

i mean... its really not that big of a deal. know that it is a dangerous city, but the area you will be spending most of your time in is not bad. just follow the bros.

if anything... you should be more afraid of the nitrous mafia.


haha exactly, i mean i am a college student myself, but was shockey by the scene last year

[spoot388]

Thanks.

I'm looking at the map, but I have no idea what areas are the ones to avoid. If you go down Mickle Blvd straight to the venue - is that okay?

thanks again.




all the good hotels are in philly right across the river. there's a ferry that accomodates concert goers. if you have to drive, map it out to be safe, but there will be a flow of traffic.


AWFUL advice. there are hotels in jersey for like half the price of what you'll find in philly. i stayed at a days inn last year for like $85. there is a holliday inn for like $100+. in philly you pay like $160 a night. and the ferry is the wost thing to ever even think about taking. last year i left night 1 EARLY and still had to wait in line for an hour and a half. the 2nd night i drove and was out of the venue lot so fast i beat the band's busses to the highway, and they get out almost instantly.

[camaroz28dmb]

so, this is gonna be my first year at Camden. any advice, tips, or pointers?

stop by our tailgate man. at some point at least, we gotta catch up. and our spot is usually awesome.

[DMBzilla]

AWFUL advice. there are hotels in jersey for like half the price of what you'll find in philly. i stayed at a days inn last year for like $85. there is a holliday inn for like $100+. in philly you pay like $160 a night. and the ferry is the wost thing to ever even think about taking. last year i left night 1 EARLY and still had to wait in line for an hour and a half. the 2nd night i drove and was out of the venue lot so fast i beat the band's busses to the highway, and they get out almost instantly.

You're still on that ferry thing? :lol

That was a total anomaly based on the terrible encore. The majority of the time the ferry is the best way to go. If you leave just as the show ends and book it over there you'll be on the first boat with no problems at all.

[sdmc229]

You're still on that ferry thing? :lol

That was a total anomaly based on the terrible encore. The majority of the time the ferry is the best way to go. If you leave just as the show ends and book it over there you'll be on the first boat with no problems at all.

Can't stand that ferry. Waited in line forever to get over to Camden, and left after the encore N1 last year, and waited 45 minutes, with no line movement. Walked to the transportation center and took PATCO.

[spoot388]

You're still on that ferry thing? :lol

That was a total anomaly based on the terrible encore. The majority of the time the ferry is the best way to go. If you leave just as the show ends and book it over there you'll be on the first boat with no problems at all.


ok, so leave as soon as the show ends and run my ass off a half mile to hopefully get in line to make the first ferry over, OR casually leave like everyone else, walk through the venue lot, find my car, and get back to the highway before the band even does. hmmmm....


conclusion, no matter what the circumstances, the ferry is a waste. and how can you be sure they won't play another terrible encore this year and cause the same thing to happen? then you're stuck waiting in line for 2 hours.

[barntotheish]

Finally a worse encore than Camden 08 in Dublin today. I can't imagine Cornbread closing a set in the states, let alone an encore.

[~Crashintome89~]

So Jerry fucked up and now we don't have pavillion tickets to N2. Yes, blame him...

[TheKramer26]

Very easy to get to and from the venue. There is the usual amount of traffic that you would find at any concert. The area around is sketchy but the lots are huge and it's a HUGE party and there will be zero reason to leave. Cops everywhere, which sometimes is a bad thing but it really isn't that bad. People in this thread are trying to scare others away from Camden shows it seems like. Great shows here every year.

[firedancer811]

AWFUL advice. there are hotels in jersey for like half the price of what you'll find in philly. i stayed at a days inn last year for like $85. there is a holliday inn for like $100+. in philly you pay like $160 a night. and the ferry is the wost thing to ever even think about taking. last year i left night 1 EARLY and still had to wait in line for an hour and a half. the 2nd night i drove and was out of the venue lot so fast i beat the band's busses to the highway, and they get out almost instantly.


Last year we stayed in Philly (which I think is totally worth the price if you want to hang out and check out the scene). We drove in, but isnt the speedline a better bet than the ferry?

[paulaugustus]

Last year we stayed in Philly (which I think is totally worth the price if you want to hang out and check out the scene). We drove in, but isnt the speedline a better bet than the ferry?

philly is the way to go for a certain demographic i guess. personally, I can't imagine dealing with driving and staying in a flea bag, but i'm a bit older.

what is the speedline anyway? last year it did appear that the ferry was a mess on night 1, but night 2 it seemed empty.

[jiggajm18]

Last year we stayed in Philly (which I think is totally worth the price if you want to hang out and check out the scene). We drove in, but isnt the speedline a better bet than the ferry?

:thumbsup

staying in philly is definitely worth it if you want to go out after the shows and have stuff to do the morning of/after the shows.

[y100adics]

i mean... its really not that big of a deal. know that it is a dangerous city, but the area you will be spending most of your time in is not bad. just follow the bros.

if anything... you should be more afraid of the nitrous mafia.

Haha ... I've been going to Camden for the past 6 years and the KIDS get worse every year! Last year we got to the lots at 5:30 and it was a total shit show. Almost had to run over about 10 hammered H.S. kids to get a parking spot. I had a pizza box in my backseat and some kid reached his hand in the back window and tried to take it ... While I was driving!! I grabbed his arm and he bolted. Saw that same kid about 30 minutes later with cops around him and a nitrous tank.

[firedancer811]

philly is the way to go for a certain demographic i guess. personally, I can't imagine dealing with driving and staying in a flea bag, but i'm a bit older.

what is the speedline anyway? last year it did appear that the ferry was a mess on night 1, but night 2 it seemed empty.


:lol:lol i didnt stay in a flea bag, we stayed in a pretty nice hotel... at times i can be a food/hotel snob-oops- which is why we chose philly over nj. we also wanted to check out bars and restaurants and a few parks, hence, philly.

the speedline is the local train/subway system, theres a stop right by the venue. we drove, but had planned on using the speedline if the hotel valet couldnt get our car out as many times as we needed (some hotels have parking but you have to leave your car there)

[paulaugustus]

:lol:lol i didnt stay in a flea bag, we stayed in a pretty nice hotel... at times i can be a food/hotel snob-oops- which is why we chose philly over nj. we also wanted to check out bars and restaurants and a few parks, hence, philly.

the speedline is the local train/subway system, theres a stop right by the venue. we drove, but had planned on using the speedline if the hotel valet couldnt get our car out as many times as we needed (some hotels have parking but you have to leave your car there)

wasn't referring to you with the flea bag remark; was referring to the person who said the days inn in cherry hill is better advice than philly hotels.
i'm definitely checking out the speedline, especially for N2 when i'll be out by the four seasons. N1 sherton society hill so i'll go for the ferry. thanks.

[DMBzilla]

ok, so leave as soon as the show ends and run my ass off a half mile to hopefully get in line to make the first ferry over, OR casually leave like everyone else, walk through the venue lot, find my car, and get back to the highway before the band even does. hmmmm....

conclusion, no matter what the circumstances, the ferry is a waste. and how can you be sure they won't play another terrible encore this year and cause the same thing to happen? then you're stuck waiting in line for 2 hours.

You've taken the ferry one time and you had a bad experience. I've taken it close to 20 times and have had a serious problem with it exactly one time ever -- DMB N1 '09.

The ferry is fine and 9 times out of 10 it's the easiest way to and from the show.

[crashintonickdm]

So Jerry fucked up and now we don't have pavillion tickets to N2. Yes, blame him...

keep looking. youll probably find something eventually.

[rickyh24]

Has anyone called about the amount of people that will be in the pit?

[y100adics]

Has anyone called about the amount of people that will be in the pit?

Im calling monday bc I have pit both nights

[DTinPA]

I know it's a different type of venue, but I was right behind the pit for one of the Springsteen shows at the Spectrum last year. There was a LOT of room in the pit.

[rickyh24]

Im calling monday bc I have pit both nights

Cool let me know. I also have pit for both nights.

[Json417]

anyone have extra tix for either night? looking for 2

[eric81485]

Also looking for 1 ticket to night 2

[spoot388]

camden usually has a bunch of tickets on the boards once the show gets closer and people actually get their WH tickets. start looking when the tour starts and you should be able to find a bunch, especially if you don't mind being in the 200s.

[#41Mikenj]

Hey... I dont feel like back reading,, anyone a good hotel a hotel in Philly??? would also like a a back up close to the venue in NJ...

Thanks...Peace

[rickyh24]

Has anyone called about the amount of people that will be in the pit?

.......

[spoot388]

.......


i heard around 800, but dont know how true that is. my friend said that the chairs in the pit only go across part of it and there is a bunch of room on the sides that can be used.

[mythicalmoose]

So night 1 will be my first dmb show that I'm 21 for. Any suggestions, keeping in mind that I don't want to spend too much money and that I want to remember the night?

[sdmc229]

So night 1 will be my first dmb show that I'm 21 for. Any suggestions, keeping in mind that I don't want to spend too much money and that I want to remember the night?

Don't drink too much.

Are you driving? If so, I recommend limited intake. If you are not driving, bring a few with you to tailgate in the lots. Drinks inside are quite expensive.

[hawkma2]

Booked our hotel...a "flea bag" motel in Cherry Hill. We always stay at the cheepest place I can find to cut costs. Feels very offical now. Getting very excited now. Just 3 months away!

[barntotheish]

So night 1 will be my first dmb show that I'm 21 for. Any suggestions, keeping in mind that I don't want to spend too much money and that I want to remember the night?

Have fun in the lots. Drink what you can and walk in a little after 8pm. Piss and find your seats, or spot on the lawn. Don't drink the golden beers during the show. You should be soberish for the ride home. This allows you to still drink a good deal, maybe spend 10bucks on a 12pack instead of the same amount for 1 beer inside. I usually make it through about 6-8 beers in the lot which leaves me just enough brain power to remember the show. Has not failed me once. I drive there every year and follow that game plan. Ok, maybe have 1 golden beer, and smoke--if you're into that kind of thing. Cheers!

[spoot388]

i would advise going in a little before 8 to piss. in 08 i went to piss a little after 8 and had like a 12 minute wait for a urinal. guys were pissing in the sinks to get out faster. i pissed and hauled ass back to my seat and about 30 seconds later the house lights went down. since that show i learned to go take a piss as soon as the opener goes off.

[barntotheish]

i would advise going in a little before 8 to piss. in 08 i went to piss a little after 8 and had like a 12 minute wait for a urinal. guys were pissing in the sinks to get out faster. i pissed and hauled ass back to my seat and about 30 seconds later the house lights went down. since that show i learned to go take a piss as soon as the opener goes off.

That sounds just about perfect to me. Even though you did have to sweat it out in line, you made it out just in time. That is some good timing, IMO.

[mythicalmoose]

Have fun in the lots. Drink what you can and walk in a little after 8pm. Piss and find your seats, or spot on the lawn. Don't drink the golden beers during the show. You should be soberish for the ride home. This allows you to still drink a good deal, maybe spend 10bucks on a 12pack instead of the same amount for 1 beer inside. I usually make it through about 6-8 beers in the lot which leaves me just enough brain power to remember the show. Has not failed me once. I drive there every year and follow that game plan. Ok, maybe have 1 golden beer, and smoke--if you're into that kind of thing. Cheers!

Hmm, kinda want to get in early cause I'm GA :shrug, not sure what to do

[barntotheish]

Hmm, kinda want to get in early cause I'm GA :shrug, not sure what to do\

GA Pit or Lawn? Either way, I wouldn't worry too much. Everyone is sitting on the lawn waiting for the show to start. And when it does, everyone stands and more room opens up to squeeze in. The pit in Camden is not that large, so if you need to be 10ft from the stage instead of 30ft, then by all means, get there at 6 and wait 2.5hours while everyone else parties it up in the lots. Just my opinions. I will be in the lots.

[gomocs10]

Hmm, kinda want to get in early cause I'm GA :shrug, not sure what to do
flask!!!!

[Json417]

Im trying to help out two of my friends and find them some tickets for these shows so if anyone has anything available inside, please pm me i appreciate it

[spoot388]

you'll find some once seat locations are posted.

[Json417]

yea thats what i figured

[firedancer811]

locations have been posted... and I'm still in need of pairs for both nights. Anyone got extras? I will also purchase single pit tickets :D

[kfpoling]

oh camden....http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_drug_charges_dropped

[bradshaw06]

ya camden cops are pretty corrupt. i have heard some stories.

[Json417]

i figured now that locations are up someone may be able to help out, im looking for a pair for each night, please PM me if you have anything

[brian2480]

Am I missing something with GA PIT??

Why are they so much cheaper than orchestra?? you can get 140$ for PIT on stubhub...and the lowest orchestra is 175

[kfpoling]

some people prefer to have a seat

[firedancer811]

I have for sale


Camden N2 Sec 202 Row R - 1 ticket

Camden N1 Sec 204 Row H - 2 tickets



face + fees, PM or email krisnein@gmail.com

[brian2480]

Can someone explain to me GA PIT for Camden..??

[paulaugustus]

Can someone explain to me GA PIT for Camden..??

quite sure they are removing 15-20 rows of seats. that's it. the earlier you are, the less of a lush, and the bigger the bladder, the closer you will be to the stage.

numbers on the tickets don't mean a thing.

[esa008]

quite sure they are removing 15-20 rows of seats. that's it. the earlier you are, the less of a lush, and the bigger the bladder, the closer you will be to the stage.

numbers on the tickets don't mean a thing.

https://www.stubhub.com/data/venue_maps/3761/stubhub_4521_Concert_SusquehannaBankCenter_EndStag e_SM2.png

From this, looks like it might be the first 8 rows? Correct me if I'm wrong, though

[spoot388]

Scranton is removing 15 rows. i haven't heard that about Camden though. but Camden's pit area is large enough to be able to hold about the same amount of people that Scranton's pit will have. could have just gotten the venues mixed up.

[brian2480]

People on here trust Stub Hub with tickets? I'm thinking about buying Pit tickets from there....

Thanks

[spoot388]

from what i've seen, stub hub is very reliable, just insanely expensive.

[DTinPA]

from what i've seen, stub hub is very reliable, just insanely expensive.


Agreed. I used it to "swap" once and still ate a bunch of money.

[jas230314]

Hey guys, I am trying to (ideally) get a pair of pit tickets for either camden show. I'll also consider lowers in 101, 102, or 103.

I have a pair of Scranton pits that I am willing to trade, if anyone is interested just PM me. Thanks and hopefully see yall there!

[BruceW]

I am kind of in the same boat as jas, except I am only looking for a pair of 100 section lowers...PM me if anyone has any help...Thanks!

[spoot388]

search the ticket boards. i've seen a few pairs for 100 and 104.

[BruceW]

63 days....damn thats too far away

[barntotheish]

63 days....damn thats too far away

Better than waiting until the 3rd week of football season, like last year. That wait was brutal, but worth it. Hartford in 1 month, love living in the NorthEast. Giggidy.

[collb1022]

Hey I was wondering if anyone from the city or jersey/ct area were headin up to SPAC and were interesting in carpooling? shoot me a message if your interested!

[smlutz]

Afternoon Camden...just a couple months until we'll be dancing with the GrooGrux king.

[BruceW]

looking for just ONE pit ticket to NIGHT 2...PM with any help please

[barntotheish]

Finally almost through the first 1/3 of the year, which typically seems to take the longest. All downhill from here to get to the tour.
I am also looking for 2pits for both nights of Camden. HMM, maybe I should put that in a different forum. Na, I bet I get a response from someone desperate to dump pit tickets. Either that or I will just keeping bumping my ISO thread. :haha

[hawkma2]

2 months!!!!

[BruceW]

Finally almost through the first 1/3 of the year, which typically seems to take the longest. All downhill from here to get to the tour.
I am also looking for 2pits for both nights of Camden. HMM, maybe I should put that in a different forum. Na, I bet I get a response from someone desperate to dump pit tickets. Either that or I will just keeping bumping my ISO thread. :haha

I hope someone is looking to dump some for night 2

[zachyd]

welp, Camden is out :(

[Json417]

most people staying in Jersey or Philly for the shows?

[firedancer811]

i have a pair of N2 sec 100 row j that i'm looking to trade for a pair of N1 pits. Anyone got a spare n1 pit pair? i'd be willing to outright purchase a N1 pit pair as well :)

[Json417]

ill be willing to buy your 100 J's if you decide to sell

[BruceW]

Im just searching for a single N2 pit if anyone ever has anything...thanks

[y100adics]

[quote=firedancer811;11070423 have a pair of N2 sec 100 row j that i'm looking to trade for a pair of N1 pits. Anyone got a spare n1 pit pair? i'd be willing to outright purchase a N1 pit pair as well :)[/quote]

Already have N2 15th row center but...... I have pair of N1 pit if you're able to score some 102 seats .. would trade you straight up.

[Json417]

your looking for 102s for n1 or n2?

[BruceW]

your looking for 102s for n1 or n2?

I was looking for 102s for either night...did you have any?

[crashintonickdm]

im assuming OP isnt going now?

[BruceW]

still hoping someone i willing to sell a pit or two

[y100adics]

your looking for 102s for n1 or n2?

Looking for 102's for N1 .. Already have 102 for N2 .. have 2 pits to N1 to trade .. Just want hard seats

[brian2480]

i'll see you guys in the pit for night 2. looking forward to it...100's night 1

[BruceW]

i would love to join brian in the pit for N2...any help??

[BruceW]

anything in the 101, 102, 103 sections would be great

if anyone has a pair of seats for any of those 3 sections PLEASE PM me!!

Thanks

[Json417]

looking for some lowers or PIts for either night, please PM me if you can help out

[barntotheish]

300. I have 2 extra pits for N2. Does anyone want them? Na, just kidding. Go top your ISO thread on the tickets board for the millionth time. That should work. Apologies for the sarcasm, but this thread has turned into a ticket request forum=Lame.

[BLaCerra28]

The last time Camden was right before Alpine was 2006....and this was the set for N2..

http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056283&tid=87&where=2006

This show has one of the best runs ever in it...from Raven to JTR. F'ing fantastic!

Think we can expect a great show like this again?

[spoot388]

i dont think there is any reason to think this can't happen. could be even better this time as songs like Smooth Rider should be replaced by songs like Why I Am.

[cotton#36]

Bringing a #36 sign N1!! why not worth a shot right??? also looking for some N2s lowers anyone knows of any pm me

[kfpoling]

Bringing a #36 sign N1!! why not worth a shot right??? also looking for some N2s lowers anyone knows of any pm me
i may have a pair in 104j for you. i'll let you know

[y100adics]

Morning Camden

[maker75]

Morning Camden

morning, what's up?

[y100adics]

Nada ... Can't sleep .. Harassing people on the boards ... lol

[y100adics]

Where's Macungie in reference to KOP?

[maker75]

Where's Macungie in reference to KOP?

trust me i hear you. i'm just booking my flight for alpine right now. i'm near allentown, about 30 minutes north of kop depending on traffic.

[Foreverford05]

Anyone standing in the good ole' lawn with monetarliy challenged me?

[mythicalmoose]

Anyone standing in the good ole' lawn with monetarliy challenged me?

Yup, I'll be there both nights

[KWeb110]

Were warehouse tickets sent out yet for the Camden Show?? Waiting on a N1 pair I made a trade for and wondering if the guy should have them yet or not?

..Also still looking for a N2 pair still, hint hint;)

[spoot388]

spac tickets just started coming like 2 days ago. camden tickets won't be for a few weeks yet. figure around june 14-17.


i have a pair for N2 in sec 204 row E that i'm looking to get rid of. i'm trying to get more centered so i can film the show for a dvd. being off to the side isn't as bad as i thought it would be, but it doesn't make for that great of a dvd. if you want the tickets, they're yours, provided i can get what i need.

[KWeb110]

Yeah I heard SPAC's were arriving so just had high hopes.. Thanks :thumbsup

[cotton#36]

Im bringing a dry erase board as my sign so i can keep trowing up new songs haha and on the back it will be #36 in glow sticks

[spoot388]

Im bringing a dry erase board as my sign so i can keep trowing up new songs haha and on the back it will be #36 in glow sticks

:haha

i like it. and when dave sees it and shakes his head no, erase it and write "so then how about _____??" :lol

[BruceW]

:haha

i like it. and when dave sees it and shakes his head no, erase it and write "so then how about _____??" :lol

haha they'd have to get a kick out of that

[y100adics]

:haha

i like it. and when dave sees it and shakes his head no, erase it and write "so then how about _____??" :lol

Could backfire and we get Cornbread and Bayou for 2 1/2 hours :eek

[spoot388]

Could backfire and we get Cornbread and Bayou for 2 1/2 hours :eek


as bad as you think that sounds, that would be badass. think about it. songs that are like 7 minutes long turning into hour long marathons? do you have any idea how much those jams would evolve over that time? take a listen to some of the longer two steps (6.22.05 is like 18 minutes long without a carter solo). theres so much to it and at times it hardly sounds like two step anymore. if they did that with cornbread and bayou for an hour, the jams would be insane.

[jiggajm18]

as bad as you think that sounds, that would be badass. think about it. songs that are like 7 minutes long turning into hour long marathons? do you have any idea how much those jams would evolve over that time? take a listen to some of the longer two steps (6.22.05 is like 18 minutes long without a carter solo). theres so much to it and at times it hardly sounds like two step anymore. if they did that with cornbread and bayou for an hour, the jams would be insane.

wow..............

usually i agree with almost everything you say, but this is just crazy.

[spoot388]

wow..............

usually i agree with almost everything you say, but this is just crazy.

and whats wrong with it? the complaint is that you'd get cornbread or bayou for an hour. but the longer the jams go the less they stick to the main frame of the song. to play an hour long they would hardly sound like the original songs towards the end. so you can't complain its cornbread because by that point its not. its just music that evolved from other music. an hour long bayou isn't going to be 53 minutes of boyd sawing away to the usual outro that lasts 3 minutes. it will be completely different. to play a song for an hour like that would be an incredible display of musicianship.

[y100adics]

as bad as you think that sounds, that would be badass. think about it. songs that are like 7 minutes long turning into hour long marathons? do you have any idea how much those jams would evolve over that time? take a listen to some of the longer two steps (6.22.05 is like 18 minutes long without a carter solo). theres so much to it and at times it hardly sounds like two step anymore. if they did that with cornbread and bayou for an hour, the jams would be insane.

Uhhhhhhhh .... I'm gonna pass on that one man

[jiggajm18]

and whats wrong with it? the complaint is that you'd get cornbread or bayou for an hour. but the longer the jams go the less they stick to the main frame of the song. to play an hour long they would hardly sound like the original songs towards the end. so you can't complain its cornbread because by that point its not. its just music that evolved from other music. an hour long bayou isn't going to be 53 minutes of boyd sawing away to the usual outro that lasts 3 minutes. it will be completely different. to play a song for an hour like that would be an incredible display of musicianship.

show me when DMB has evolved good music FROM bad music

because the opposite has definitely happened......intro to jimi becoming angel, intro to save me becoming can't stop

[spoot388]

show me when DMB has evolved good music FROM bad music

because the opposite has definitely happened......intro to jimi becoming angel, intro to save me becoming can't stop


that is completely different. thats taking an idea from one thing and creating a 2nd idea. that is nothing like an hour long jam session. when the scripted jam breaks down, that is when the real music starts. by the time a half hour goes by, they'd be playing just a giant improv jam. they tend to make those pretty good.

you guys are being way too closed minded. you see the idea attached to cornbread and bayou and automatically think nothing good can come of it when you are completely wrong.

[jiggajm18]

that is completely different. thats taking an idea from one thing and creating a 2nd idea. that is nothing like an hour long jam session. when the scripted jam breaks down, that is when the real music starts. by the time a half hour goes by, they'd be playing just a giant improv jam. they tend to make those pretty good.

you guys are being way too closed minded. you see the idea attached to cornbread and bayou and automatically think nothing good can come of it when you are completely wrong.

okay then show me when DMB has had a long jam come out of a really bad song.

you're saying that this can happen. but if it hasn't, how does that make us wrong? :lol

[spoot388]

okay then show me when DMB has had a long jam come out of a really bad song.

you're saying that this can happen. but if it hasn't, how does that make us wrong? :lol


DMB doesn't have that long of jams period. and it can happen because they are world class musicians. they're not just some high school garage band. they are masters of their instruments and know how to make good music. Dave said that when making BW the music came from 10 minute jam sessions. there's some pretty damn good music on that album, and it came from them just noodling around.

why would you think the same can't/won't happen when they need to fill 30 minutes of song time without stoping the current song and moving on to a new song? Phish does shit like that. DMB's jam style is different than Phish's, but there is no reason why they couldn't pull it off.

it doesn't make you wrong, but saying that they can't make a great jam that stems from cornbread or bayou is ignorant. they are incredibly talented musicians. they can do a lot more than what they show us.

[jiggajm18]

DMB doesn't have that long of jams period. and it can happen because they are world class musicians. they're not just some high school garage band. they are masters of their instruments and know how to make good music. Dave said that when making BW the music came from 10 minute jam sessions. there's some pretty damn good music on that album, and it came from them just noodling around.

why would you think the same can't/won't happen when they need to fill 30 minutes of song time without stoping the current song and moving on to a new song? Phish does shit like that. DMB's jam style is different than Phish's, but there is no reason why they couldn't pull it off.

it doesn't make you wrong, but saying that they can't make a great jam that stems from cornbread or bayou is ignorant. they are incredibly talented musicians. they can do a lot more than what they show us.

a simple "no, i don't have an example for you" would have done just fine

[spoot388]

a simple "no, i don't have an example for you" would have done just fine


no, it wouldn't have. you asked a loaded question. a simple "no" would have proven you right, which you're not.

[jiggajm18]

no, it wouldn't have. you asked a loaded question. a simple "no" would have proven you right, which you're not.

sure i am.

you gave an example about how two step's jam makes it almost an entirely new song. and i agree with you about that.

as bad as you think that sounds, that would be badass. think about it. songs that are like 7 minutes long turning into hour long marathons? do you have any idea how much those jams would evolve over that time? take a listen to some of the longer two steps (6.22.05 is like 18 minutes long without a carter solo). theres so much to it and at times it hardly sounds like two step anymore. if they did that with cornbread and bayou for an hour, the jams would be insane.

but why on earth would you want them to jam out cornbread or bayou and make it a new song? they've never successfully jammed out a crappy song (if they have, please provide an exmaple) and i wouldn't want them to.

[spoot388]

sure i am.

you gave an example about how two step's jam makes it almost an entirely new song. and i agree with you about that.



but why on earth would you want them to jam out cornbread or bayou and make it a new song? they've never successfully jammed out a crappy song (if they have, please provide an exmaple) and i wouldn't want them to.


outside of Bartender, #41, Seek Up, Jimi, Crush, LIOG, Dreaming Tree, and Two Step, they don't do extended jams period, let alone from a "crappy" song. its not like every amazing song is 15+ minutes and the "crappy" songs stay at 5 minutes. they play great songs that are short too. only 8 out of their 100+ songs routinely break 15 minutes.



and now that i think about it, there is an example of a bad song being jammed out. WH 8 Vol 2, Angel with Eric Krasno. song time is a little over 12 minutes, with a great bluesy solo by Krasno. the song blows, but the jam is good. and if you want to go shorter, the 7 minute Mother Father from the same disk features Carlos Santana with a nice little jam at the end. those 2 songs keep their familiar backing sound during the jams, but they weren't extended long enough to really break away from it. if those songs were pushed to a half hour or more, they would certainly have a much different sound during the jam, and there is no reason not to think that the quality of the jam would diminish.

[jiggajm18]

outside of Bartender, #41, Seek Up, Jimi, Crush, LIOG, Dreaming Tree, and Two Step, they don't do extended jams period, let alone from a "crappy" song. its not like every amazing song is 15+ minutes and the "crappy" songs stay at 5 minutes. they play great songs that are short too. only 8 out of their 100+ songs routinely break 15 minutes.



and now that i think about it, there is an example of a bad song being jammed out. WH 8 Vol 2, Angel with Eric Krasno. song time is a little over 12 minutes, with a great bluesy solo by Krasno. the song blows, but the jam is good. and if you want to go shorter, the 7 minute Mother Father from the same disk features Carlos Santana with a nice little jam at the end. those 2 songs keep their familiar backing sound during the jams, but they weren't extended long enough to really break away from it. if those songs were pushed to a half hour or more, they would certainly have a much different sound during the jam, and there is no reason not to think that the quality of the jam would diminish.

good point made :thumbsup

[barntotheish]

good point made :thumbsup

So, the battle is over? Thanks for bringing some life to the Camden thread. It's been lacking. Let the tour begin...tomorrow.:hump

[cotton#36]

:haha

i like it. and when dave sees it and shakes his head no, erase it and write "so then how about _____??" :lol

exactly its brilliant and did you have a pair N2 for sale? looking for some 200s for my dad

[KWeb110]

TM has some pairs in 200 row F up right now for both N1 and N2.. anyone still searching check it out!

[spoot388]

good point made :thumbsup

thank you. we'll have to bicker again some time :lol



So, the battle is over? Thanks for bringing some life to the Camden thread. It's been lacking. Let the tour begin...tomorrow.:hump

i guess so. and it has, but its not a major destination or at the beginning of the tour. once spac is over this thread will pick up as people need someone to talk and plans will need to be made for these shows.




exactly its brilliant and did you have a pair N2 for sale? looking for some 200s for my dad

i do have a pair for N2. its section 204 row E. i can sell them as soon as i find something in 202. i'm trying to get centered so i can film better for a dvd, but i can't go to N1 and not have tickets for N2. so i need to hold on to these until i find another pair. i don't see why i wouldn't be able to get what i need though, so hopefully it'll be soon. i'll definitely let you know when they're available though. i'm going to need to get rid of them.

[crashintonickdm]

cannot wait for june 30th. i hope busted stuff appears at one of these 2 shows because it has eluded me for years.

[AllifromOhio]

Might be hitting up this place for the first time.

[Jigga9JayZ]

after seeing this opening shows sets i'm thinking about adding some shows....

i'm debating a night or 2 here or hershey....i figure a lot of you will be hitting both up if you are in the PA region.

hershey is closer by about 80 miles but i've been there twice and was not impressed either time.

so suggestions on to which i should hit up?
i haven't heard too much about camden but looking at the past couple years sets it looks pretty good set wise anyway....and might fill my 2 night stand void since no post gazette this year.

[spoot388]

do camden. you'll get an actual seat and not have to fight anybody for it. plus its a 2 night stand.

[AllifromOhio]

Is this venue right in the ghetto?

[Jigga9JayZ]

do camden. you'll get an actual seat and not have to fight anybody for it. plus its a 2 night stand.

yea also a good factor since hershey field is all GA this year...hmmm

i might have to start looking for tickets to camden.

[spoot388]

they'll be around, at least n1 anyway. they won't be amazing, but you'll be in the pavilion. n2 is going to be hard.

[maker75]

Is this venue right in the ghetto?

yes. venue is okay at best. ppl rave about it, i don't because i've been there so many times. i'd much rather hit spac or scranton.

only good thing a about the venue is the pav. all the seats in there are great views of the stage.

[spoot388]

Is this venue right in the ghetto?


its not right in the ghetto, its just right next to it. the Camden Waterfront area is a decent area because its all the tourist attractions. but go 1/2 mile in any direction and its the ghetto. but the ghetto is far enough away that you can get to your car and drive away unharmed. and the highways are like a mile from the venue.


the venue itself isn't anything special, but its not shitty either. its built well, but it doesn't have any character to it like other places have. SPAC has the balcony, Scranton is completely surrounded by woods, The Gorge is built on a river gorge, Bethel is Woodstock, etc. Camden is just a pavilion smack dab in the middle of a city.

[DMBzilla]

yes. venue is okay at best. ppl rave about it, i don't because i've been there so many times. i'd much rather hit spac or scranton.

The actual venue is not even close to being right in the ghetto. It's at least 3 full blocks until you get anything that's even close to being "ghetto" and it's not until at least a mile in from the river that it gets notably dodgy. SPAC is clearly a better place to see shows, but I would take the actual venue at Camden over the tent in Scranton any day.

only good thing a about the venue is the pav. all the seats in there are great views of the stage.

The Susquehanna Bank Center has phenomenal sound regardless of where you are. Even halfway up the lawn the sound isn't bad. And you're right about the sightlines -- the only spots that get a little tough are the first 10-12 rows of Sections 100 and 104.

Honestly, if the venue was in any city besides Camden, it would be considered a top place to visit for sure. The city is pretty bad, but the venue is top notch.

[crashintonickdm]

yeah, this venue is in the college part of camden which actually isnt bad.

dont listen to the idiots who have no idea what theyre talking about.

[Jigga9JayZ]

so would there be plenty of decent hotel options? this ghetto talk made me a little worried.

and by decent i just mean an affordable and clean super 8 or something.

[y100adics]

Not sure about options for hotels or motels in Camden. You'd prob be better off just going over the bridge to Philly to stay, but it won't be cheap.

[meeksman16]

Might be hitting up this place for the first time.

Yeah same here. What's the word?

[spoot388]

for hotels, look for something around Cherry Hill. Rt 38 and 70 are main roads and they both have stuff on them to eat and sleep at. Holiday Inn, Days Inn, Friendlys, Wal-Mart, etc. Cherry Hill is a decent area. not ghetto.

[Andrew101]

I start my Internship Tuesday with Enterprise Rent-A-Car. Im praying I can get a day or two off for these shows, or at least Hershey.

[bonf71]

so would there be plenty of decent hotel options? this ghetto talk made me a little worried.

and by decent i just mean an affordable and clean super 8 or something.

Stay in Cherry Hill, I've been staying there for Camden shows for 10 years now, never had a problem, it's not a ghetto. Plenty of hotels & places to eat & a short 10-15 drive to the venue.

[10-31]

outside of Bartender, #41, Seek Up, Jimi, Crush, LIOG, Dreaming Tree, and Two Step, they don't do extended jams period, let alone from a "crappy" song. its not like every amazing song is 15+ minutes and the "crappy" songs stay at 5 minutes. they play great songs that are short too. only 8 out of their 100+ songs routinely break 15 minutes.



and now that i think about it, there is an example of a bad song being jammed out. WH 8 Vol 2, Angel with Eric Krasno. song time is a little over 12 minutes, with a great bluesy solo by Krasno. the song blows, but the jam is good. and if you want to go shorter, the 7 minute Mother Father from the same disk features Carlos Santana with a nice little jam at the end. those 2 songs keep their familiar backing sound during the jams, but they weren't extended long enough to really break away from it. if those songs were pushed to a half hour or more, they would certainly have a much different sound during the jam, and there is no reason not to think that the quality of the jam would diminish.


Dont forget LitHoG that is i think routinely played out at least 10 minutes.

Which IMHO I hated LitHoG studio release. awful song lacked anything worthwhile. But when they add the jam and go 10-12 minutes with it, it is actually respectable. I now enjoy that song a whole lot more due to its extension.


I hope to be hitting this gig a second year in a row :)

Also I unno if this is true, but dont they play out recently alot when they actually get around to playing it?

furthermore i would consider a 10 minute version of a 4-5 minute song a jam. for example YMDT plays alot of the time 8- to what 10 or so minutes . . .. and it sounds more like a jam than an actual studio release .. . ..... . . .

[spoot388]

Dont forget LitHoG that is i think routinely played out at least 10 minutes.

Which IMHO I hated LitHoG studio release. awful song lacked anything worthwhile. But when they add the jam and go 10-12 minutes with it, it is actually respectable. I now enjoy that song a whole lot more due to its extension.


I hope to be hitting this gig a second year in a row :)

Also I unno if this is true, but dont they play out recently alot when they actually get around to playing it?

furthermore i would consider a 10 minute version of a 4-5 minute song a jam. for example YMDT plays alot of the time 8- to what 10 or so minutes . . .. and it sounds more like a jam than an actual studio release .. . ..... . . .


i was talking about the LOOOONG songs. they don't have that many that break 15 minutes.


as for Recently, in 08, the few times it was played, it was short (3 minutes). then the few times in 09 it was played it was 8 minutes. so who knows.

[crashintonickdm]

i wouldnt mind if they took 7 minutes off #41. in fact, i hope they do it.

[spoot388]

same here. it was nice in 08 when it was like 12 minutes. its even worse when the song is towards the end of the set because then you know there's only going to be like 2 more songs because that takes up so much time.

[JSA6916]

looking for opinions on best place to stay for Camden. I am looking to fly into Philly and not rent a car, so I need to plan a trip around not using a rental car, and not having to spend a ton on public trans. Can anyone help me out?

Also looking for a single reserve for both nights if anyone can help me out.

[#41Mikenj]

Just got 2 lawns from Live Nation for 80 bucks...No service fees!!!! I think its for the month of June...

[BLaCerra28]

i wouldnt mind if they took 7 minutes off #41. in fact, i hope they do it.

:thumbsup:thumbsup 41 is way too long IMO. And I've heard it so many times. I actually went out and smoked last year during the jam. It just so routine now.

[10-31]

yea, i would prefer a long warehouse to replace it, or a minute or two added to YMDT . .. .

how did you not get service fees? And will this show sell out?

[mYeAgZ55]

YES this show will sell out.

[10-31]

YES this show will sell out.



Well i meant to say I have a good week or two before it will right?

Its not like I have to buy my tickets today ???

[firedancer811]

looking for opinions on best place to stay for Camden. I am looking to fly into Philly and not rent a car, so I need to plan a trip around not using a rental car, and not having to spend a ton on public trans. Can anyone help me out?

Also looking for a single reserve for both nights if anyone can help me out.

i have a single, sec 202 row r if you want it- face + fees

[10-31]

So is there gonna be an ants tailgate for this show?, and if so which lot is it gonna be in?

[onesweetworld41]

So is there gonna be an ants tailgate for this show?, and if so which lot is it gonna be in?

I haven't been to Camden since 02 (I was 16) but I may swing down for the 2 shows from western pa... I'm hoping there's ants because I may go solo with the gf in Spain for the week...

[jdgotta#40git]

U guys know where the band is staying? I'm looking to stalk and get my guitar signed.

[bonf71]

U guys know where the band is staying? I'm looking to stalk and get my guitar signed.

That's kinda scary , lol, they usually stay in Philly.

[DMBzilla]

outside of Bartender, #41, Seek Up, Jimi, Crush, LIOG, Dreaming Tree, and Two Step, they don't do extended jams period, let alone from a "crappy" song. its not like every amazing song is 15+ minutes and the "crappy" songs stay at 5 minutes. they play great songs that are short too. only 8 out of their 100+ songs routinely break 15 minutes.

What about...

Lying in the Hands of God
Recently
The Stone
The Last Stop
Dancing Nancies
Warehouse
Typical Situation

...and of which generally clock in at 10 minutes or more? Just because a song isn't 15 minutes doesn't mean it's not an "extended jam" song.

[DMBzilla]

as for Recently, in 08, the few times it was played, it was short (3 minutes). then the few times in 09 it was played it was 8 minutes. so who knows.

Recently eclipsed 10 minutes 5 of the 11 times it was played in 2009.

[DMBzilla]

Also, I need a pair of tickets in the Pit or in 101, 102 or 103 for N2 if anyone happens to have some lying around... :)

[dmb208]

Hello everyone! just about 20 something days til camden '10. Just figure, the last song we heard at Camden was a fantabulous Halloween. What does everybody think we are going to get this time around with all of the surprises that are being thrown at us this tour?

[BLaCerra28]

I'd like to see a Fool to Think opener N1....thoughts?

[BruceW]

i cannt waiittt for this!!

my first time at camden...staying in philly, so excited

[jdgotta#40git]

i cannt waiittt for this!!

my first time at camden...staying in philly, so excited
Me too bro. I'm stayin at the Sheraton. Going both nights. U?

[y100adics]

Hola Camden!!!! N1 pit!!!!!!

[firedancer811]

does anyone know how many the pit will hold?

[bonf71]

I'd like to see a Fool to Think opener N1....thoughts?

I think you're a brave person to say that on the boards the way people have been hating on the band these days.

[kfpoling]

I'd like to see a Fool to Think opener N1....thoughts?
:thumbsup
does anyone know how many the pit will hold?
too many:evil:lol

[firedancer811]

:thumbsup

too many:evil:lol


isnt it always too many?

but really, the spac pit is usually 7 rows, right? camden pit is about the same as i recall, the stage is just higher and probobly about the same distance away as the hartford pit. unless i'm completely wrong... which is also possible.

[DMBzilla]

isnt it always too many?

but really, the spac pit is usually 7 rows, right? camden pit is about the same as i recall, the stage is just higher and probobly about the same distance away as the hartford pit. unless i'm completely wrong... which is also possible.

SPAC is usually 6 rows deep. According to the venue, it was supposed to hold 250 people with the GA setup, but there were no less than 400 people in there every night.

Camden is usually 8 rows deep, and holds approximately 350 people with seats. However, the GA Pit is going to hold around 800 this year.

[kfpoling]

i think spac pit is 5 rows, not 100% sure though. maybe 6?
i think camden is 6 rows...

but darien pit was only 7 rows i believe, but it was double the size of spac's pit.. and the stage was MUCH higher at darien-i think camden is a decent height
the height of the stage makes so much difference...

[DMBzilla]

i think spac pit is 5 rows, not 100% sure though. maybe 6?
i think camden is 6 rows...

Yeah, just looked -- SPAC is 5 rows. Camden is definitely 8 though, and the stage is pretty high there compared to SPAC but not quite as high as Darien from what I could see from people's pics. Darien's is huge like Hershey's, and I know Camden's is lower than Hershey.

[firedancer811]

SPAC is usually 6 rows deep. According to the venue, it was supposed to hold 250 people with the GA setup, but there were no less than 400 people in there every night.

Camden is usually 8 rows deep, and holds approximately 350 people with seats. However, the GA Pit is going to hold around 800 this year.


800? :ugh and so the pit will stretch to the sides of the stage, not just that little box area where the seats normally are, right? i heard hartford's pit had 800, it was 15 rows- i didnt think that that many people would fit into that area in camden.

[kfpoling]

looking back at my pictures, the stage looks to be about 4-5 feet high

[crashintonickdm]

FTT opening? no, it already opened once before and it was the only time ever in 2004 in camden and it was horrible. no thanks

[rickyh24]

800? :ugh and so the pit will stretch to the sides of the stage, not just that little box area where the seats normally are, right? i heard hartford's pit had 800, it was 15 rows- i didnt think that that many people would fit into that area in camden.

It will stretch to the sides of the stage.

[crashintonickdm]

and i also dont feel like sitting through another squirm opener. i was bored as fuck last year at hershey.

[cotton#36]

and i also dont feel like sitting through another squirm opener. i was bored as fuck last year at hershey.

yea weak opener hope we get a JTR or SUAD!!

[BLaCerra28]

yea weak opener hope we get a JTR or SUAD!!

I always thought So Right would be a sick opener as well.

[DMBzilla]

800? :ugh and so the pit will stretch to the sides of the stage, not just that little box area where the seats normally are, right? i heard hartford's pit had 800, it was 15 rows- i didnt think that that many people would fit into that area in camden.

Hartford's pit was actually around 1,200 if I recall correctly. My understanding with Camden is that they're just going to take out the folding chairs, which I think will include the ones in the fronts of Sections 100 and 104, and that entire area will be GA. That's how I've seen it set up in the past for GA shows there.

The StubHub seating chart should give you a pretty good idea of how big the pit will be. It normally holds a little over 350 in the center pit area, and then another 60 or so on the sides.

[KWeb110]

Just splurged a little and got myself Pit tickets for N1... so excited:D:bounce:D

do they really expect around 800 in the pit?? bigger than Scrantons..

[Json417]

now that spacs over...anyone have any extras in the lowers or pit available for camden? been looking pretty steadily the last few months..no luck yet

[BLaCerra28]

I'm not usually one for chants guys, however, I propose that at Camden we chant for Warehouse instead of Last Stop or something else that they can't just bust out without practice.

I want to hear Warehouse bad this year, and with a chant, we DEFINITELY have a chance to hear it.

That is all.

[y100adics]

I'm not usually one for chants guys, however, I propose that at Camden we chant for Warehouse instead of Last Stop or something else that they can't just bust out without practice.

I want to hear Warehouse bad this year, and with a chant, we DEFINITELY have a chance to hear it.

That is all.

Warehouse would be pretty sweet

[spoot388]

i said that after SPAC N2 that we should chant for Warehouse. its a rarity nowadays, but its something they can definitely pull out. i'm all for a WH chant. i haven't seen that song since 07.

[crashintonickdm]

warehouse is a rarity now. what a crime.

[BLaCerra28]

i said that after SPAC N2 that we should chant for Warehouse. its a rarity nowadays, but its something they can definitely pull out. i'm all for a WH chant. i haven't seen that song since 07.

Nice. Then it needs to be done. This is definitely a song they can just play without rehearsal. A Last Stop chant at this point is worthless, it won't get us anywhere.

[y100adics]

Can't wait for these shows!!! Was gonna scratch Hershey because I didn't want GA but I found section 26, 4th row today!!!!! Gonna be a good summer!

[bonf71]

Nice. Then it needs to be done. This is definitely a song they can just play without rehearsal. A Last Stop chant at this point is worthless, it won't get us anywhere.

I think any chant is kinda worthless, cause if we do chant something & Dave laughs & comments on it like he did at SPAC, people on these boards will only get pissed off like they did on the SPAC boards, so it's kinda a no win if you ask me.

[spoot388]

I think any chant is kinda worthless, cause if we do chant something & Dave laughs & comments on it like he did at SPAC, people on these boards will only get pissed off like they did on the SPAC boards, so it's kinda a no win if you ask me.


chanting songs that they CAN'T play is one thing. the Last Stop chants are pretty pointless, although it does make Dave think about the song. but chanting for a song they can actually pull out at any moment can work. italy got Everyday because the crowd was singing the honey honeys. they can easily play Warehouse if they wanted to, being that they never got a Warehouse chant before and its not The Last Stop, maybe they would oblige us.

[vaultr12]

We got Halloween last year beacuse of the chants so they do work just has to be songs they have already practiced. Good good time chant!

[Noles20]

So are all pit GA tickets the same? In the past, there was the regular pit, but there was also Pit 101 and pit 103. They don't exist anymore, do they?