***Official Scranton Thread***

[DMBzilla]

Just got home a bit ago and read through this thread. Review to come in the "Just Got Back" forum.

Amazing show.

[Gorm]

Will it be up soon Zilla? If not i'm gonna go to bed lol

[cornbreadgranny]

probably the most fun i ever had. i was in the pit, in approximately row 2. so many pleasant surprises. i even caught dave's pic after the end of the show. def beats camden n2 which i attended earlier this month. best of my 8 attended shows. i brought 10 pumpkin paper plates in lieu of making a sign and passed them to ppl around me in the pit. i was holding mine every chance i got and dave noticed it during #41 and mouthed "i see you ;)" to me. stefan was laughing at it all night. i wore my stop wars shirt like always and stood directly in front of tim. he gave me some acknowledgement hah. someone i gave the plate to handed it to carter before the encore and he walked offstage holding it. i thought for sure we were getting halloween. the energy tonight was unparalleled. scranton 10 > spac 09...disregarding the encore, haha. the jams tonight were incredible. i can't wait to download this set and listen to it daily until 2012

[Faz#41]

probably the most fun i ever had. i was in the pit, in approximately row 2. so many pleasant surprises. i even caught dave's pic after the end of the show. def beats camden n2 which i attended earlier this month. best of my 8 attended shows. i brought 10 pumpkin paper plates in lieu of making a sign and passed them to ppl around me in the pit. i was holding mine every chance i got and dave noticed it during #41 and mouthed "i see you ;)" to me. stefan was laughing at it all night. i wore my stop wars shirt like always and stood directly in front of tim. he gave me some acknowledgement hah. someone i gave the plate to handed it to carter before the encore and he walked offstage holding it. i thought for sure we were getting halloween. the energy tonight was unparalleled. scranton 10 > spac 09...disregarding the encore, haha. the jams tonight were incredible. i can't wait to download this set and listen to it daily until 2012

I SAW THATTTTT..... i SO saw carter point at you as well with the paper pumpkin and i totally thought they wouild pull it out.... not sure why they didnt?

[sean52692]

I caught Dave's pick in the PIT!

Good catch.

[jas230314]

wowwww amazing amazing show tonight. I cant figure out whether or not Camden N2 or this was better for me.... I am definitely leaning towards Scranton right now. :thumbsup

I honestly cant believe that happened. You & me was boring - especially with the diggin a ditch tease! So Damn Lucky was sick, I have to admit that. But, I had a Halloween sign and a bunch of people had little halloween plates. Dave gave me a "well see, well see" hand gesture to my halloween sign. I really really think we would have gotten halloween if it wasnt so late/if the show was not so damn long!! I think everyone was really exhausted after that show! In a good way though :)

My girlfriend was handed a stick by Carter after the main set (2nd row center pit), it was really special to see her get that. She had a "I love Carter" sign, and he was pointing at me and her all night.

Ill post a review tomorrow sometime - just reading the setlist does not do this show justice - hands down the best performances I have ever seen from this band. Ever. Great, great night.

[DMBzilla]

For those interested, my review has been posted. :)

[Faz#41]

I still can't believe that I called Stonehouse as the opener hahahaha... Like, i was saying it all fucking day and they came out and played Stone and Warehouse... like 1,2. Everyone i was with was laughin so hard

[EMTP579]

This was my last show of the year and, on the whole, best of the year. Definitely the best main set and best starting run. We came wanting to hear Stone and TMDT and got both - those were the only 2 we had not heard in awhile. The crowd was fun, band was amped and the setlist started loud and angry which is my kind of show.

[Jewelly]

Do I see that there was only one taper for last night up on Dreaming Tree, Wklitz ?

[IUgrlAtWKU]

Wow, just saw the setlist -- I think this is my favorite of the year to date. The Stone opener into Warehouse? I would've flipped. Nice job, fellas. Only downside (for me) might be the encore, but after a main set like that, I wouldn't be complaining.

[Jewelly]

Wow, just saw the setlist -- I think this is my favorite of the year to date. The Stone opener into Warehouse? I would've flipped. Nice job, fellas. Only downside (for me) might be the encore, but after a main set like that, I wouldn't be complaining.

You're one of only a few. The level of bitching and crying in here last night about the encore was like those Sweet Sixteen shows on MTV, the little bitchy cunt who got a blue Mercedes instead of black. :lol

[dh4645]

great show. so much energy from the band and the great crowd around us (7 rows behind the pit). we were straight out from the left stack and carters bass kick vibrated us all night. ha. this venue was so great and the parking staff was awesome. back at my hotel 20 min after getting in my car.

my shows of 2010 go Scranton>Hershey>PNC, but they were all great.

[jiggajm18]

what an incredible show, easily one of the best i've ever seen. my only gripe was the crap that happened with you and me.

and the crowd was terrible. worse than a camden crowd.

[dh4645]

show

http://www.dreamingtree.org/details.php?id=7995

how does this rank in the overall length of show list?

[jiggajm18]

You're one of only a few. The level of bitching and crying in here last night about the encore was like those Sweet Sixteen shows on MTV, the little bitchy cunt who got a blue Mercedes instead of black. :lol

and the bitching was well deserved, especially after that main set. teasing ditch and going into you and me just sucks. 'so damn lucky' surprisingly worked well, but the crowd didn't seem to into it.

[Jewelly]

and the bitching was well deserved, especially after that main set. teasing ditch and going into you and me just sucks. 'so damn lucky' surprisingly worked well, but the crowd didn't seem to into it.

Oh I get the letdown, my smile probably would have faded with Y&M but there was redemption with SDL.

[jiggajm18]

Oh I get the letdown, my smile probably would have faded with Y&M but there was redemption with SDL.

agreed. i was there and at the beginning of SDL i honestly was disappointed - but at the end, i thought it worked well as a closer - definitely not the best closer they have and certainly not my favorite. but it did work well.

[grahamcracker3]

Good morning.

This one thing I know,
last night I saw the greatest band in the world.

[grahamcracker3]

what an incredible show, easily one of the best i've ever seen. my only gripe was the crap that happened with you and me.

and the crowd was terrible. worse than a camden crowd.

I don't know where you were sitting.

Back in the 200s it was loud & rockin' . Bangin' on the seats all night long.

That was the BEST use of Y&M possible, after that insane set, to give everyone a sing-a-long. It worked. AND SDL was above expectations.

Get past what you see on the set, listen to the music.

[jiggajm18]

I don't know where you were sitting.

Back in the 200s it was loud & rockin' . Bangin' on the seats all night long.

That was the BEST use of Y&M possible, after that insane set, to give everyone a sing-a-long. It worked. AND SDL was above expectations.

Get past what you see on the set, listen to the music.

um, i was there :lol

[Riverrat1]

can someone post a link to the poster? i really dont feel like backreading. thanks!

[jiggajm18]

and the best use of 'you and me' would be to not play it at all.

[grahamcracker3]

and the best use of 'you and me' would be to not play it at all.

You did hear the crowd freak out when they went into it right?

I'm gonna go a step further, I loved SDL with the Thank You Close.

WHAT ELSE ARE THEY GOING TO PLAY AT THAT POINT? IT WAS 11:45!

[jiggajm18]

You did hear the crowd freak out when they went into it right?

I'm gonna go a step further, I loved SDL with the Thank You Close.

WHAT ELSE ARE THEY GOING TO PLAY AT THAT POINT? IT WAS 11:45!

yes i did. and that song still blows. i could care less how 18,000 drunk people reacted to it.

there were cheers at bethel when 'can't stop' started. does that mean it should be played?

[Jewelly]

yes i did. and that song still blows. i could care less how 18,000 drunk people reacted to it.

there were cheers at bethel when 'can't stop' started. does that mean it should be played?

I like Can't Stop AND SDL and I'm just grateful I got to see my favorite band one more time before their hiatus.

[grahamcracker3]

yes i did. and that song still blows. i could care less how 18,000 drunk people reacted to it.

there were cheers at bethel when 'can't stop' started. does that mean it should be played?

No, but in the context of last night's show I thought it worked.

Were there songs I'd rather hear? Sure. But at that point in the show the crowd was so into it the best thing they could have done was bring in a sing-along everyone knows. Maybe Ants would have been better. Everyone was on the verge of exhaustion. Digging would have killed the energy for the casual fans who were hanging on by a thread.

I think Y&M was worth it for the crowd. Maybe it sucks, but be honest, one of the best moments of a night out is when everyone in the bar sings Sweet Caroline at closing time.

I'm also going to say this: I loved SDL and Thank You when it closed SPAC in 08, I think it was great here.

[jiggajm18]

No, but in the context of last night's show I thought it worked.

Were there songs I'd rather hear? Sure. But at that point in the show the crowd was so into it the best thing they could have done was bring in a sing-along everyone knows. Maybe Ants would have been better. Everyone was on the verge of exhaustion. Digging would have killed the energy for the casual fans who were hanging on by a thread.

I think Y&M was worth it for the crowd. Maybe it sucks, but be honest, one of the best moments of a night out is when everyone in the bar sings Sweet Caroline at closing time.

I'm also going to say this: I loved SDL and Thank You when it closed SPAC in 08, I think it was great here.

i couldn't disagree more

but i very much agree about SDL and thank you :thumbsup

[grahamcracker3]

i couldn't disagree more

but i very much agree about SDL and thank you :thumbsup

Well I guess we can agree there.

It's funny tho, my girl is a huge DMB fan, got me into them.

We effing love Y&M. I can't not. I don't know why. It's just the way it is.

Seriously tho, I thought 41 would close. Then they went into Monkey (which, though not my fav, packs a punch later in a good set) and I figure "this has to be it, because it's like 11pm!"

Nope, they then proceeded to play the 2nd longest song in their arsenal.

Unreal. Dave could have farted in the mic for an encore and this would still be an all-time show.

[jiggajm18]

Well I guess we can agree there.

It's funny tho, my girl is a huge DMB fan, got me into them.

We effing love Y&M. I can't not. I don't know why. It's just the way it is.

Seriously tho, I thought 41 would close. Then they went into Monkey (which, though not my fav, packs a punch later in a good set) and I figure "this has to be it, because it's like 11pm!"

Nope, they then proceeded to play the 2nd longest song in their arsenal.

Unreal. Dave could have farted in the mic for an encore and this would still be an all-time show.

yep. i really thought the set was over once they started SMLAM. then when they stayed on stage, i figured it would be 'stay', just because it's one of the shorter songs that they close with. two step just rocked though :hump

this was my 3rd year at scranton and 2 of the 3 years were great shows (last year was pretty good, but 2008 and this year were on another level)

[sjsharkteeth]

i was at hershey and scrantan and i say hershey was better...better setlist, better crowd...and btw dmbalmanac voted hershey over scrantan

[jiggajm18]

i was at hershey and scrantan and i say hershey was better...better setlist, better crowd...and btw dmbalmanac voted hershey over scrantan

that's just crazy

[dh4645]

my favorite pic i took last night....looks a lot better when not compressed for ants

[dh4645]

i was at hershey and scrantan and i say hershey was better...better setlist, better crowd...and btw dmbalmanac voted hershey over scrantan

i was at hershey, pnc and scranton.

hershey and scranton were pretty equal, but i have to give it to scranton

[grahamcracker3]

For someone who only sees 1 show a year, with them going into a hiatus, I'm just so happy about last night.

I got to see may favorite song, Rapunzel, as a tour debut.
My girl, at her birthday present, see Two Step, her fav, for the first time after 3 tries.

If you read back enough, you'll also see I came as close as you can to calling the Warehouse opener. ALMOST.
Still think I should get some dap for being that close.

So grateful. So happy.

I can't believe I got to be there for that, and that a small, yet faithful & appreciative venue that's not full of self-righteous "owe-me-a-setters" got that set.

I've never seen that appreciative and energetic a crowd at ANY concert I've ever been too.

[GolgiApp]

I came into the show (my only of the year unfortunately) not expecting much. You know, the normal 5 or 6 BW songs that I don't really care about and some filler. I was pleasantly surprised through the whole show. First, the Stone rocked. Then Warehouse, PNP>Rapunzel, Busted Stuff, Tripping Billies, One Sweet World...all amazing. That was the best #41 I've heard in person. So much fun (and it looked like the boys were having fun too - not only here but through the entire show). Two Step was very nice. Lying In The Hands Of God was a lot better than I remember. I used to hate this song, but the jam, as well as the song itself, kind of grew on me. Far exceeded my expectations in all ways imaginable.

[dh4645]

listening to the show already. sooo good

[dmbdanfan]

This show was just on another level. It was totally unbelievable, they're crazy if they don't release this as a live trax. preferably soon too. Even the encore was just outstanding with all the energy coming from the crowd. Even if you don't like y&m or sdl, the band was sounding amazing no matter what they played, and the thank you outro was absolutely sick!

Amazing amazing show!

[jakewilliams]

This show was just on another level. It was totally unbelievable, they're crazy if they don't release this as a live trax. preferably soon too. Even the encore was just outstanding with all the energy coming from the crowd. Even if you don't like y&m or sdl, the band was sounding amazing no matter what they played, and the thank you outro was absolutely sick!

Amazing amazing show!


I went with this guy to the show, and I can tell you firsthand the level of energy that he and I had throughout this entire show. Amazing. I can't even begin to go into a detailed review because it wouldn't do it justice. They jammed everything out. Absolutely fantastic.

[JTR178]

"It's always good to be here. I like this place. Get a little bit lost."

Because last night's show was in Scranton it will fall the way of the 08 Scranton Show, and it will be the most underrated show of the tour! Wish some people could just see things for what they are. There is no reason to complain about the encore when the show's main set was long enough that the last two songs could have been the encore instead, and the last song of the encore was full of energy and fan involvement.

Sometimes you just have to close your eyes and listen to the music.

[dh4645]

"It's always good to be here. I like this place. Get a little bit lost."

Because last night's show was in Scranton it will fall the way of the 08 Scranton Show, and it will be the most underrated show of the tour! Wish some people could just see things for what they are. There is no reason to complain about the encore when the show's main set was long enough that the last two songs could have been the encore instead, and the last song of the encore was full of energy and fan involvement.

Sometimes you just have to close your eyes and listen to the music.

agreed

:thumbsup:thumbsup

[grahamcracker3]

I think a lot of the setlist watchers will put their criticism of the encore in check when they actually HEAR the show.

[Faz#41]

do we have a setlist scan from last night? or a poster link? thankssss

[lillywhiteraven]

do we have a setlist scan from last night? or a poster link? thankssss

I have a hard time believing that the encore wasn't drastically changed due to timing. I bet SDL was in there because it was on the setlist for Bethel, but I don't think Y+M was in there.

As a setlist watcher of this show, I gotta say that it looked like an awesome time regardless of the encore. I don't hate SDL by any means, and I would have been glad to be there for it to end that awesome show. I'd just about rather have anything than you and me in that encore 1(2) spot. Overall tough, I believe everyone there had to have a good time.

[watchtower821]

"It's always good to be here. I like this place. Get a little bit lost."

Because last night's show was in Scranton it will fall the way of the 08 Scranton Show, and it will be the most underrated show of the tour! Wish some people could just see things for what they are. There is no reason to complain about the encore when the show's main set was long enough that the last two songs could have been the encore instead, and the last song of the encore was full of energy and fan involvement.

Sometimes you just have to close your eyes and listen to the music.
:thumbsup

[BryanMPolDV]

I had the chills throughout Stone--> Warehouse--> Grace is Gone (chills akin to the first show I saw back in 2000 at Giants Stadium), only to have that supplemented with sick renditions of #41, LITHOG (just MASSACRED by Jeff), Two Step (totally Carter's song now), One Sweet World (EXTENDED INTRO!!!), PNP-->Rapunzel, and Billies (with an extended solo by Boyd, who has been so on as of late). Even the Whiskey songs were used to perfection the way they were placed in the set. All in all, a superb, magnificent, and FUN show. Needs to be a Live Trax SOON.

[lillywhiteraven]

I had the chills throughout Stone--> Warehouse--> Grace is Gone (chills akin to the first show I saw back in 2000 at Giants Stadium), only to have that supplemented with sick renditions of #41, LITHOG (just MASSACRED by Jeff), Two Step (totally Carter's song now), One Sweet World (EXTENDED INTRO!!!), PNP-->Rapunzel, and Billies (with an extended solo by Boyd, who has been so on as of late). Even the Whiskey songs were used to perfection the way they were placed in the set. All in all, a superb, magnificent, and FUN show. Needs to be a Live Trax SOON.

sooooooooooo true.

[JohnnyTsunami]

just got the show downloaded. Went straight to OSW, and wow, intro sounds as good as ever, as well as the whole rest of the song

[KillTheKing 27]

SPAC IS BEAST....we got DREAMGIRL nanananananana

[JohnnyTsunami]

Recording is phenomenal btw

[JohnnyTsunami]

i was at hershey and scrantan and i say hershey was better...better setlist, better crowd...and btw dmbalmanac voted hershey over scrantan
I was at Hershey, and there was NO CHANCE that show was better than last nights

[JohnnyTsunami]

:lol :lol :lol @ the improv jam

[DMBzilla]

i was at hershey and scrantan and i say hershey was better...better setlist, better crowd...and btw dmbalmanac voted hershey over scrantan

What are you talking about? The Almanac doesn't "vote" for one show over another. I'm guessing you're looking at the numbers next to each show, which refers to the rarity index. Hershey had a higher rarity index than Scranton. That doesn't mean it was a better show.

I was at both, and thought Hershey was great, but last night was truly something special. My tour rankings at this point would go...

1. Camden N2
2. Scranton
3. Alpine N2
4. Hershey
5. Hartford N1

[lillywhiteraven]

What are you talking about? The Almanac doesn't "vote" for one show over another. I'm guessing you're looking at the numbers next to each show, which refers to the rarity index. Hershey had a higher rarity index than Scranton. That doesn't mean it was a better show.

I was at both, and thought Hershey was great, but last night was truly something special. My tour rankings at this point would go...

1. Camden N2
2. Scranton
3. Alpine N2
4. Hershey
5. Hartford N1


And that's probably because Still Water and Recently were both played in full at Hershey (both songs have been played on the tour already not officially in full) that had to give the rarity a **** that it doesn't really deserve. I thought Hershey looked like an awesome show on paper, and it sure as hell sounds awesome from the tape, but without listening to both yet I still have to give the edge to Scranton.

[JohnnyTsunami]

What are you talking about? The Almanac doesn't "vote" for one show over another. I'm guessing you're looking at the numbers next to each show, which refers to the rarity index. Hershey had a higher rarity index than Scranton. That doesn't mean it was a better show.

I was at both, and thought Hershey was great, but last night was truly something special. My tour rankings at this point would go...

1. Camden N2
2. Scranton
3. Alpine N2
4. Hershey
5. Hartford N1
I really dont see how you can put Camden over last night

[DMBzilla]

I really dont see how you can put Camden over last night

As I said in my review, Camden had a better flow than last night, and the encore was better as well. Both shows were fantastic, however, and I'm glad to have attended both.

[lillywhiteraven]

I really dont see how you can put Camden over last night

I think with 2 shows like that, it really comes down to personal preference. Its not worth getting in fusses over which (of 2 great) shows is better.

[DMBzilla]

I think with 2 shows like that, it really comes down to personal preference. Its not worth getting in fusses over which (of 2 great) shows is better.

Exactly. The one thing we can all agree on is that Camden N2 and Scranton have been the two best shows of 2010.

[stlbluespower]

bottom line: everyone who was not at this show is jealous (but not in a bad way) and wishes their show had been this good. This weeknight show came out of nowhere and it is great to see everyone pumped up about DMB at this mid-tour point.

[grahamcracker3]

Exactly. The one thing we can all agree on is that Camden N2 and Scranton have been the two best shows of 2010.

It's all about preference.

Earlier I was in a argument about Y&M....which I thought was actually
put to great use in the E1 when the crowd was ready to open their lungs and sing.

At first I was bummed about SDL, whick I love, but I've seen before, but man oh man did they kill it.

Tim on the guitar in SDL is one of the most epic sounding things I've ever heard..

[grahamcracker3]

Most importantly, I got to see my favorite DMB song, as a tour debut no less.

[lillywhiteraven]

It's all about preference.

Earlier I was in a argument about Y&M....which I thought was actually
put to great use in the E1 when the crowd was ready to open their lungs and sing.

At first I was bummed about SDL, whick I love, but I've seen before, but man oh man did they kill it.

Tim on the guitar in SDL is one of the most epic sounding things I've ever heard..

Ill tell you man. Bethel was my 22nd full band show, and I had as much fun at it as I have at some epic SPAC shows years ago that look much much better on paper. It just goes to show how many variables you have to take in to account when determining "good" shows. It starts in the afternoon in the lots and ends when you fight the traffic and are finally home.

[spoot388]

Incredible show. I was front row right in front of Jeff.

The Stone - amazing opener. i knew it was going to be something different because they usually go a little out of the ordinary to open for Scranton

Warehouse - great as always. unbelievable way to start the show

Grace Is Gone - really?!?!?! great slower paced song after the high energy of Warehouse. GREAT Boyd solo / hoedown jam. better than the other time's i've heard it this year. more like the 06 versions.

Seven - great spot for Seven. standard, but great

You Might Die Trying - again, great placement. great performance.

Tripping Billies - great midset song. song sounds amazing this year.

Cry Freedom - once again, great placement. in the top half of the set, bringing the energy down to recoup after a crazy Billies. great song, nice surprise. noticed a lot of talking in the crowd though, even from the front row.

Lying In The Hands of God - nice way to gradually build up the energy again. BEST VERSION I've ever heard. Jeff's solo started mellow and built up nice. got in a stare-down with Dave during Jeff's solo which was awesome

Gravedigger - 9 songs in and this is the "worst" song so far? i'll take it. i can do without Digger, but it does rock pretty hard and it was still early in the set. good version though.

One Sweet World - FULL INTRO!! i heard Dave playing the intro and i though it was just going to be a little tease of it, kind of like the Nature intro to Billies a couple years ago, but no, it was the full thing and it was amazing. OSW was a great mellow song for midset. this is the kind of song that belongs in Scranton. fits the vibe of the venue perfectly.

Improv Jam - funky little thing that lasted about a minute. i thought Shake Me was coming, but instead it was.....

PNP > Rapunzel - SOOO happy to hear this last night. one of their best songs live. its not summer without Rapunzel. so much fun and a great way to bring the energy up after Digger and OSW.

Why I Am - knew this was coming at some point. great placement for it, keeping the energy up from Rapunzel.

Busted Stuff - nice surprise. never heard it before and wanted to so bad. great mellow song. sounded a little weird to me as Boyd, Jeff, and Rashawn weren't really in the song in the beginning. maybe thats normal, i dunno.

#41 - kind of surprised to see this because i knew it was getting late. i've been tired of #41 because i've seen it a bunch of times the last 2 years, but this version was great. it sounded like Carter was doing something different than he usually does as Jeff was soloing. it was a great version.

Shake Me - a little surprised by this as it was played the night before in Bethel. great song, lots of fun and full of energy. thought it might be closing the set.

Two Step - really? REALLY?!?! the song started at 10:54. thats usually when they're coming back out for the encore, and they still have a nearly 20 minute long musical journey to take. Time Bomb intro, but it was A LOT more intense than the other's i've heard. Dave was screaming the chorus of TB and still had one more round to go before TS kicked in. how he got out a higher level for the last part of the intro, i have no idea. tim's solo seemed pretty great at the time. overall a great version.


ENCORE - lets be realistic here. the venue's curfew is 11pm. Two Step didn't end until 11:15. they could have just said they played through the break and just added Two Step to finish it off instead of coming back out and it would have been entirely reasonable considering they started at 8:30 and it was already 11:15.

the fact that they came back out for a 2 song encore is amazing. were they the best songs? no. but it was like bonus music at that point. for those there, what they played didn't matter as much as the fact that they still came out and played.

there were very minor Halloween chants that never got going.


Digging A Ditch tease - really would have been a great E1 song

You and Me - E1 is a nice spot for it if it has to be played. really got the crowd going, and knowing it wasn't going to be the last song, i didn't mind it.

So Damn Lucky - i was really hoping this would be missed tonight, but not at all surprised by it popping up in the encore. i was hoping something like Stay would follow it, but at that point in the night, i figured SDL was closing. what i wasn't expecting was an extended Thank You outro. Dave started it and the crowd really got into it. it was a nice way to end the show. for all the greatness that happened in the set, the encore can be allowed to end on just something thats fun.



overall, i remember thinking "this is the best show i've ever seen, and i'd think that even if i was in the 200s instead of the front row." it was a special night. Dave really loves playing here, and last night was proof. and once again, as he's done every time they've returned, Dave mentioned how much he loves coming back and playing here.

having been to Camden N2 as well, Scranton is the best show of the tour so far, with Camden a close 2nd. if Scranton had any sort of a GOOD encore (So Right, Ditch, WYA, Ants, Halloween, Stay, etc) it would have been leaps and bounds above the rest of the year, and most other shows within the last half decade, at least.

[JohnnyTsunami]

Time is up on the almanac

2 hrs 51 mins!

[dh4645]

Time is up on the almanac

2 hrs 51 mins!

ha, u beat me to it.

so how does this rank in length of shows.
is there a list somewhere.
i know one of my other 20-some shows was close to 3 hrs too.

[sammitch2488]

This was the best show I've seen with an exception to SPAC Night 2 2009.. (only because of surprise factor, but the surprises in this show were pretty sick too)

This show was PERFECT!.

The only thing I can knock is the Encore, but thats getting a little to picky with what they busted out tonight, and I learned that Scranton's venue is quite a beautiful place to see a show,

Not to mention this is one of the longest dave shows ever..

[aircavmike]

ha, u beat me to it.

so how does this rank in length of shows.
is there a list somewhere.
i know one of my other 20-some shows was close to 3 hrs too.


according to the almanac supposedly #3!

[lieinmygrave41]

I'm listening to this entire show from the start. I'm thoroughly excited.

[lillywhiteraven]

according to the almanac supposedly #3!

3rd longest show ever.......shit. hope everyone was dancin' hard.

[grahamcracker3]

Spoot, I LOVED the Time Bomb Intro. I heard people complain, never heard it before, but man oh man does it work.

I certainly like it better than Time Bomb itself....

[TMS2787]

I am still on a high from last night. I can not believe this was the third longest show post-1995. I am so happy I got a pit ticket. Looking to download the show right now!

[grahamcracker3]

I'm listening to this entire show from the start. I'm thoroughly excited.

I couldn't hear the Davespeak from the 200s, it is amongst the best ever.

Especially the intro to Hands of God. Just skip there right NOW.....

[dh4645]

according to the almanac supposedly #3!

where is the list?

linky?

[spoot388]

Spoot, I LOVED the Time Bomb Intro. I heard people complain, never heard it before, but man oh man does it work.

I certainly like it better than Time Bomb itself....


i'd much rather a TB intro to TS than TB itself. however, this intro was a bit different than the others. normally he would just sing the chorus, but last night he started with the first verse and then went to the chorus. also, he was WAY more intense than any of the other TB intros i've heard.





also, Dave was dancing A LOT, including the old school crazy legs dance, which i've not seem him do for extended periods of time like he did last night in a long time.

[Jtr132]

See I said way back Dave does loves this place.

[watchtower821]

Recording is phenomenal btw
what recording did u get? from DT ?

[sammitch2488]

So what I took from the Dave speak before LITHOG is that the entire band was totally baked when they wrote LITHOG?

[spoot388]

theres only one that i see.

http://www.dreamingtree.org/details.php?id=7995

[dh4645]

where is the list?

linky?

????
anyone.
i cant seem to find it

[watchtower821]

will be sure to download as soon as i get home from work.. need to re-live last night as much as i can

[dh4645]

will be sure to download as soon as i get home from work.. need to re-live last night as much as i can

the recording sounds great....even coming out of my crappy laptop speakers. i can't wait to get the show burnt and into my trailblazer so i can crank it up.

[line01044]

the recording sounds great....even coming out of my crappy laptop speakers. i can't wait to get the show burnt and into my trailblazer so i can crank it up.

thats awesome, I'm pumped it sounds good sometimes listening to shows that don't sound well doesn't give it any justice. How sweet would it be if this show can make a live trax or some kind of recording? and did anyone keep looking at the time and saying its getting late how are they doing this?

[zajDmB1]

Carter's Two Step solo was probably the greatest thing I've heard him do. I'm pretty sure he grew an extra limp during the song.

[kn8243]

Good morning.

This one thing I know,
last night I saw the greatest band in the world.

couldn't agree with u more cracker

[bonf71]

Excellent show, had a great time. Thanks to all the people that gave me parking advice on here. Got to the lot at 400 & was put in lot 2 right near the exit. Stayed for the encore & still made it out in under 10 minutes !! Thanks again !

[dh4645]

Carter's Two Step solo was probably the greatest thing I've heard him do. I'm pretty sure he grew an extra limp during the song.

*limb*

he did something similar at pnc too. both were great.

[BWBFARM34]

*limb*

he did something similar at pnc too. both were great.

Everytime I hear two step I swear it's the best one I've heard, check out the one at alpine N1, I swear he has 3 legs sometimes to hit that bass drum as fast as he does!! I'm waitin for last night to doswnload and I'll compare two steps!!!

[pat3773]

Well just got back to buffalo and am happy to see i just saw the best show ive ever seen. Ive been to some good ones too ive never witnessed quite anything like last night.

[twistedmind1586]

pnp>rapunzel was really good last night. tim took it easy on pnp and didn't rape (not the good kind of rape) it like he was doing most of 09.

[twistedmind1586]

also, SDL is a great encore closer IMO. they've done some awesome thigns with that song this year.

[GolgiApp]

pnp>rapunzel was really good last night. tim took it easy on pnp and didn't rape (not the good kind of rape) it like he was doing most of 09.

I enjoyed reserved Timmy...if that makes sense. Not just on this song but through the whole show. Didn't overplay like I thought he did last year.

[kanedmb]

pnp>rapunzel was really good last night. tim took it easy on pnp and didn't rape (not the good kind of rape) it like he was doing most of 09.
thats good to hear. listening to recordings of pnp in 09, tim really ruined it for me. i also miss how roi used to hit that first note and then play throughout the song, for some reason the first note with roi makes the whole thing much better, but once he stopped doing that for whatever reason, and they added tim, pnp went from being awesome and beautiful to just okay. i wish tim would stay more turned down and jeff would play some of the stuff roi used to.

[rwwest7]

also, SDL is a great encore closer IMO. they've done some awesome thigns with that song this year.
:thumbsup Wasn't there last night, but my two closers this year were Halloween and SDL (Blossom). SDL was far and away a better closer than the beloved Halloween.

[RiotAct]

Seeds: 0 (277) Peers: 0 (44)

yeahhhh buddy

[RiotAct]

i was at hershey and scrantan and i say hershey was better...better setlist, better crowd...and btw dmbalmanac voted hershey over scrantan

i was at hershey, pnc and scranton.

hershey and scranton were pretty equal, but i have to give it to scranton

:ugh :ugh :ugh


I was at Hershey as well, and not last night's show... and I can still tell you that last night was far-and-away better. 3rd longest show in DMB history, amazing main set, very nice mix-up of song spots.

[dh4645]

:ugh :ugh :ugh


I was at Hershey as well, and not last night's show... and I can still tell you that last night was far-and-away better. 3rd longest show in DMB history, amazing main set, very nice mix-up of song spots.

on another note...tailgating at hershey was superior to pnc and scranton....in that order.

and where is this list that shows its the third longest show?

i've asked like 3 times now and nobody has given me a link. i know i was at one close to 3 hrs before too and want to see the damn list

[thedanman613]

has a paper setlist been put online anywhere yet? not one on almanac.

[kfpoling]

has a paper setlist been put online anywhere yet? not one on almanac.
ill have my friend send it in tonight

LRB was E1

[NedFlanderss]

:ugh :ugh :ugh


I was at Hershey as well, and not last night's show... and I can still tell you that last night was far-and-away better. 3rd longest show in DMB history, amazing main set, very nice mix-up of song spots.

Hershey was good, montage was wayyyyyy better, great energy from the band, back of 103 was a smart, fun group, that was dancing and way into the show, best band ever gave one of their best shows ever, I do not believe that a long show does not make it a better show, last night is the exception that proves the rule, a+++++++

[thehoss]

what an amazing night! was taking my girlfriend to bethel for her first dmb show ever, and my friend mentioned half-joking that they were in scranton the next night. my girlfriend, before even seeing her first show, looks at us both and says "lets go then!". We called a friend, and he got on tm, and got us 3 seats in section 102, row DD, unreal seats. had a blast in bethel, and then BAM, last night happened. so glad we went, and my girlfriend is officially hooked. Citi Field with me saturday night! nice seeing phelps, tony, trish and tommy around as always. hope everyone got home safe!

[#27#34#36#40#41]

i was at scranton last night for the 1st time and what can i say..its a great venue..got a great set

will deffinitly be coming back in 2012(11)

[RiotAct]

on another note...tailgating at hershey was superior to pnc and scranton....in that order.

and where is this list that shows its the third longest show?

i've asked like 3 times now and nobody has given me a link. i know i was at one close to 3 hrs before too and want to see the damn list


http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/showthread.php?t=199831

[PSUforever21]

had Dave played LRB, it would have been the longest ever probably - tied, at least

[Primordialsoup]

The band was on fire last night- especially Carter and Jeff- WOW! I was dead center in the Pit about 12 heads back. Dave was having some good fun throughout. They were all enjoying themselves. What a treat! I think the band likes piqued soft-topped venues like the tent in Scranton. So much energy last night in a feeding circuit between band-crowd-band-crowd... My second Pit show this year and I am even more convinced that the Pit is the place to be. So good to witness the greatest band in the world do their thing.

[#27#34#36#40#41]

The band was on fire last night- especially Carter and Jeff- WOW! I was dead center in the Pit about 12 heads back. Dave was having some good fun throughout. They were all enjoying themselves. What a treat! I think the band likes piqued soft-topped venues like the tent in Scranton. So much energy last night in a feeding circuit between band-crowd-band-crowd... My 6th lawn show this year and I am even more convinced that the lawn is the place to be. So good to witness the greatest band in the world do their thing.



fixeddddd

[Primordialsoup]

The lawn at Dave & Tim in Canandaigua was pretty sweet.

[CaffeineQueen]

fixeddddd

the lawn crowd was garbage.

BUT the show last night made it worth it :D

never again, though.

[#27#34#36#40#41]

the lawn crowd was garbage.

BUT the show last night made it worth it :D

never again, though.


better than most that ive been too this year..much better than bethel

[jas230314]

3rd longest show ever.... (with unrecorded shows, probably ~6th or so)

They played until what, 11:40ish last night?

still in awe.

[CaffeineQueen]

better than most that ive been too this year..much better than bethel

maybe we were in a bad area then.

No one was singing or even paying attention until Gravedigger.

[CaffeineQueen]

I know I'm at the show and shouldn't be posting, but this chick in the pit totally just gave her husband a handjob not 10 feet in front of me during LITHOG.

it must be the song.

Bethel - We had a couple stop and hardcore make out for a couple minutes.

Scranton - There were two kids dry humping in front of us.

[FlyersFanatic02]

probably the most fun i ever had. i was in the pit, in approximately row 2. so many pleasant surprises. i even caught dave's pic after the end of the show. def beats camden n2 which i attended earlier this month. best of my 8 attended shows. i brought 10 pumpkin paper plates in lieu of making a sign and passed them to ppl around me in the pit. i was holding mine every chance i got and dave noticed it during #41 and mouthed "i see you ;)" to me. stefan was laughing at it all night. i wore my stop wars shirt like always and stood directly in front of tim. he gave me some acknowledgement hah. someone i gave the plate to handed it to carter before the encore and he walked offstage holding it. i thought for sure we were getting halloween. the energy tonight was unparalleled. scranton 10 > spac 09...disregarding the encore, haha. the jams tonight were incredible. i can't wait to download this set and listen to it daily until 2012

I was about four or five people to your right, you had a nice fight for the pick. Loved the pumpkin head paper plates!

[41Saratoga]

it must be the song.

Bethel - We had a couple stop and hardcore make out for a couple minutes.

Scranton - There were two kids dry humping in front of us.

yea, I thought that was bad....until I saw the comment about the hand job!:lol:lol

[RiotAct]

3rd longest show ever.... (with unrecorded shows, probably ~6th or so)

They played until what, 11:40ish last night?

still in awe.

not sure about that... weren't pretty much all the band's shows back in the early 90s pretty short, compared to this decade?

[line01044]

wouldnt it suck if we couldnt get another show in scranton because the world will end in 2012 :BANG

[DaveDude12]

wouldnt it suck if we couldnt get another show in scranton because the world will win in 2012 :BANG

Fail. Terrible post.

[spoot388]

world would end in december of 2012, which comes AFTER the summer. plenty of time for another show. although wouldn't it be nice to end on about as high a note as possible?

[bonf71]

maybe we were in a bad area then.

No one was singing or even paying attention until Gravedigger.

I respect your opinion , but you hadda be in a bad area, ALL lawn was not garbage , defintely people near me into the show, not just until Gravedigger , & never again why ? I think it's an amazing venue, I'm actually not too excited about Citi cause it's too damn big, Scranton was an intimate venue, again, my opinion.

[CaffeineQueen]

I respect your opinion , but you hadda be in a bad area, ALL lawn was not garbage , defintely people near me into the show, not just until Gravedigger , & never again why ? I think it's an amazing venue, I'm actually not too excited about Citi cause it's too damn big, Scranton was an intimate venue, again, my opinion.

Oh, the venue was lovely but our surrounding crowd wasn't. Maybe it was just our area, who knows. Fabulous show, nonetheless.

I definitely would like to go again, but next time I'm splurging for inside seats. :thumbsup

[spoot388]

i think she meant lawn at scranton never again. the venue itself is great and dave loves it. but lawn is definitely not the best place to be for the show.

[CaffeineQueen]

i think she meant lawn at scranton never again. the venue itself is great and dave loves it. but lawn is definitely not the best place to be for the show.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

[TripPin BilLie]

the lawn at scranton looked terrible. i didnt venture out into it, but was it just a slope? if it was im glad it didnt rain badly after 5 30.

i highly recommend for anyone going to bethel to get seats within the first section, those were great views. but the inside at scranton sort of sucked. it didnt slope it was much harder to see in front of me. but that show, holy god. i think the band knows when i go to shows cause i seem to always get some good ones :thumbsup

[rball1127]

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=120821&id=1480020013&ref=mf

my pictures from last night

i was essentially front row center

[spoot388]

you were the guy in the eagles jersey!?!? i saw you so many times when i looked across the pit. i was like 12 people to your right, right in front of the horns.

[TBolts712]

Stupendous show! I was 2 people from Boyd in the Pit for most of the night and had a blast. Song selection was great and the show was very long. Forgive me if so, but did anyone else notice there was 2 hours and 50 minutes of MUSIC? Awesome!! :thumbsup

Edit: Whoops, see this was discussed. Kinda bummed LRB got bumped but I should hear it someday. Really can't complain about too much from last night; bashing the encore is kind of nitpicking now, looking back at the show....

[rball1127]

you were the guy in the eagles jersey!?!? i saw you so many times when i looked across the pit. i was like 12 people to your right, right in front of the horns.

haha yeah that was me

it got me a stick in camden, tried to get it signed but it didn't work oh well

amazing spot il most likely never be that close again

[d41tbhall]

2:50 hours:minutes...... wow.........

amazing show...... kinda miffed bout digging a ditched being teased into you&me

<3 i love this band

[rball1127]

haha yeah that was me

it got me a stick in camden, tried to get it signed but it didn't work oh well

amazing spot il most likely never be that close again

tried to get the jersey signed i mean

[#27#34#36#40#41]

[QUOTE=

still in awe.[/QUOTE]




same it was great

[#27#34#36#40#41]

it must be the song.

Bethel - We had a couple stop and hardcore make out for a couple minutes.

Scranton - There were two kids dry humping in front of us.


it must have been a matter of spots at bethel i saw people yawnining and sleeping during JTR and the Maker ..where as at montage they were just loving everything and were pumped up to be there

[thehoss]

the sound was amazing inside. very impressed. its dariens venue, but on roids or something. just soooo much better.

[grahamcracker3]

I'm listening to the recording.

Even the sound quality on this one is better than any recording I've downloaded.

This is getting stupid rediculous.

[jiggajm18]

i think she meant lawn at scranton never again. the venue itself is great and dave loves it. but lawn is definitely not the best place to be for the show.

:thumbsup

same for me. i'll never do another show on the lawn at scranton ever again. this year was EASILY the worst crowd i've ever been around on a lawn - and that includes being on the lawn at every camden show since 2006.

and for the record, not complaining about the show or even the venue at all. just the crowd on the lawn.

[CaffeineQueen]

ok, I don't feel like as much of a complainer now, phew. :lol

[BryanMPolDV]

Listening to the recording of this show makes me appreciate it about TEN TIMES as much. EASILY the best show I've been to since 2000.

[jiggajm18]

Listening to the recording of this show makes me appreciate it about TEN TIMES as much. EASILY the best show I've been to since 2000.

i can't say enough how jealous i am that you're able to say that :lorraine

[higheverday]

what a great show. finally got to hear busted stuff after 34 shows and 7 this year. i wasnt expecting much of anything from scranton but boy was i wrong. glad i made the last minute decision to make the drive from buffalo and get a pit ticket. cant wait til wrigley

[BryanMPolDV]

Make this a Live Trax...NOW! :multi

[BryanMPolDV]

I'm listening to the recording.

Even the sound quality on this one is better than any recording I've downloaded.

This is getting stupid rediculous.
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

[Sabres914]

I'm listening to the recording.

Even the sound quality on this one is better than any recording I've downloaded.

This is getting stupid rediculous.
Listen to the Bethel recording. It sounds like a Live Trax.

[41Saratoga]

I respect your opinion , but you hadda be in a bad area, ALL lawn was not garbage , defintely people near me into the show, not just until Gravedigger , & never again why ? I think it's an amazing venue, I'm actually not too excited about Citi cause it's too damn big, Scranton was an intimate venue, again, my opinion.

Oh, the venue was lovely but our surrounding crowd wasn't. Maybe it was just our area, who knows. Fabulous show, nonetheless.

I definitely would like to go again, but next time I'm splurging for inside seats. :thumbsup

I think we were just in a bad spot. We were surrounded by drunken teenagers who didn't give a crap about the show. They were too busy, talking, taking pictures of each other, falling over and grinding! I even had one girl try to use me for support!:lol The SPAC lawn gets a bad rap, but I've done the SPAC lawn a lot of times, without feeling like I was in the middle of a high school bash! We still had a great time though and I think we'll definitely be back in 2012!

[CrushLive]

the sound was amazing inside. very impressed. its dariens venue, but on roids or something. just soooo much better.

the sound during the stone sucked!...thankfully they fixed that. i couldn't hear jeff at all from where i was standing though i could see he was playing.

but yeah basically the same as darien except not in a field but rather on the side of the mountain. the parking lots are a bit weird though, i wish they were connected to each other.

[DMBzilla]

I think we were just in a bad spot. We were surrounded by drunken teenagers who didn't give a crap about the show. They were too busy, talking, taking pictures of each other, falling over and grinding! I even had one girl try to use me for support!:lol The SPAC lawn gets a bad rap, but I've done the SPAC lawn a lot of times, without feeling like I was in the middle of a high school bash! We still had a great time though and I think we'll definitely be back in 2012!

That's assuming DMB is back in Scranton in 2012. I know they really seem to like the place, but ticket sales were horrible this year. The back of the pavilion was pretty empty, the lawn wasn't close to full, and they were actually offering ticket upgrades at the venue for people on the lawn.

[CrushLive]

That's assuming DMB is back in Scranton in 2012. I know they really seem to like the place, but ticket sales were horrible this year. The back of the pavilion was pretty empty, the lawn wasn't close to full, and they were actually offering ticket upgrades at the venue for people on the lawn.

They should just add another day onto SPAC :)

[41Saratoga]

That's assuming DMB is back in Scranton in 2012. I know they really seem to like the place, but ticket sales were horrible this year. The back of the pavilion was pretty empty, the lawn wasn't close to full, and they were actually offering ticket upgrades at the venue for people on the lawn.

well yea, my statement is contingent upon them coming back there in 2012, of course.

[41Saratoga]

They should just add another day onto SPAC :)

That sounds like the perfect solution to me!

[41Saratoga]

the sound during the stone sucked!...thankfully they fixed that. i couldn't hear jeff at all from where i was standing though i could see he was playing.

but yeah basically the same as darien except not in a field but rather on the side of the mountain. the parking lots are a bit weird though, i wish they were connected to each other.

Yea, it would've made it easier for me to find you! Jess and I definitely got our exercise that day, walking back and forth on that one road!:lol

[DMBzilla]

They should just add another day onto SPAC :)

I agree. I'd much rather see them just do shows at the big venues, with how many people are within a few hours drive of each one.

I'm a firm believer that a big part of why they need this break is the insane (and unnecessary) amount of touring they've done over the past several years. 35 or so shows a summer would be just fine and wouldn't put the kind of crunch on them they've had in recent tours.

Look at Phish's summer -- 18 shows between June 11 and July 4, a full month off, and then 11 more shows between August 5 and 18. I think something along those lines would work really well for DMB.

[CrushLive]

I agree. I'd much rather see them just do shows at the big venues, with how many people are within a few hours drive of each one.

I'm a firm believer that a big part of why they need this break is the insane (and unnecessary) amount of touring they've done over the past several years. 35 or so shows a summer would be just fine and wouldn't put the kind of crunch on them they've had in recent tours.

Look at Phish's summer -- 18 shows between June 11 and July 4, a full month off, and then 11 more shows between August 5 and 18. I think something along those lines would work really well for DMB.

So:
SPAC x2
Alpine x2
Camden x2
Mansfield x2
NYC x2
WPB x2
Star Lake x2
WPB x2
LA area x2
Shoreline x2
Gorge x3
Cville x2
Denver area x2
Atlanta x2

That's 29 right there.

[CaffeineQueen]

I think we were just in a bad spot. We were surrounded by drunken teenagers who didn't give a crap about the show. They were too busy, talking, taking pictures of each other, falling over and grinding! I even had one girl try to use me for support!:lol The SPAC lawn gets a bad rap, but I've done the SPAC lawn a lot of times, without feeling like I was in the middle of a high school bash! We still had a great time though and I think we'll definitely be back in 2012!

Yea, it would've made it easier for me to find you! Jess and I definitely got our exercise that day, walking back and forth on that one road!:lol

I definitely sweated out many toxins!

[dmbdanfan]

Listen to the Bethel recording. It sounds like a Live Trax.

Who's recording did you DL? I took the one that was upped that night and there a few cracks during Squirm and a few other things here and there that made it not exactly Live Trax quality (though still pretty good). Who has the best tape?

[TripPin BilLie]

They should just add another day onto SPAC :)

this :thumbsup:thumbsup

[DMBzilla]

So:
SPAC x2
Alpine x2
Camden x2
Mansfield x2
NYC x2
WPB x2
Star Lake x2
WPB x2
LA area x2
Shoreline x2
Gorge x3
Cville x2
Denver area x2
Atlanta x2

That's 29 right there.

Yeah, something like...

SPAC
Mansfield
Hartford
NYC/North Jersey
Camden/Philly
Pittsburgh/Starlake
Washington DC/Virginia
North Carolina (Raleigh and Charlotte)
Atlanta
West Palm Beach
Chicago
Alpine
Texas (Dallas and Houston)
Vegas/Phoenix
Denver/Red Rocks
The Gorge
San Diego/Chula Vista
LA/Hollywood Bowl
San Francisco/Shoreline
The Gorge

[spoot388]

a friend of mine who works at Scranton told me they sold 12-13,000 this year. the economy has really hit the ticket sales hard. they over-sold the venue 2 years in a row. its not like 5,000 DMB fans closed up shop and left the area. the people are there, they just can't really afford it. the increase in ticket prices isn't helping either. in 06 pavilion seats were $65, now they're $75 just like 3 years later.


it also doesn't help having the show scheduled how it is. this year it was like 5 days after Hershey and the night after Bethel. Hershey is only 2 hours away, and Bethel is like an hour and a half. not to mention Camden was just 2 weeks ago, and NYC is 2 days after Scranton. there are so many shows so close in distance and so close in time. Bethel was close to selling out, but i know a lot of people go there to see the entire area, not just the show. and its also about 2,000 seats less than Scranton. Hershey wasn't close to sold out either, which it was back when Scranton was over-selling a few years ago. and scheduling on weeknights doesn't help either. i know a few people who couldn't go because they had work and stuff. i bet a weekend night would help ticket sales.


i highly doubt Scranton will be going anywhere from the touring schedule. after 2005, Dave wanted a 2nd night added for 2006. the only reason why it didn't happen was because the venue said no. Dave loves it here too much to not play here. i think as long as they're not LOSING money playing here, they'll keep coming back, even if they're not really making anything. at this point, they don't need to worry about money. so if they have a good time here, there's no reason to not come back.

i think adding a 2nd night and moving it to a weekend would actually help ticket sales. people fly across the country for Alpine, SPAC, WPB, etc. a 2nd night here would give people who live farther away a reason to make the trip. and the locals would take a 2nd night at Scranton over 1 and 1 at a place like Hershey.

[aircavmike]

i highly doubt Scranton will be going anywhere from the touring schedule. after 2005, Dave wanted a 2nd night added for 2006. the only reason why it didn't happen was because the venue said no. Dave loves it here too much to not play here. i think as long as they're not LOSING money playing here, they'll keep coming back, even if they're not really making anything. at this point, they don't need to worry about money. so if they have a good time here, there's no reason to not come back.

i think adding a 2nd night and moving it to a weekend would actually help ticket sales. . and the locals would take a 2nd night at Scranton over 1 and 1 at a place like Hershey.


i can see your rationale but this same debate has been had about Red Rocks, even though it only holds 10K the band doesn't LOSE $$ but yet they rarely play there.

i do think you're right about Scranton not going anywhere on the tour schedule though and would LOVE to see them add a 2nd night since it's my hometown but i don't see that happening. :(

[cornbreadgranny]

i can see your rationale but this same debate has been had about Red Rocks, even though it only holds 10K the band doesn't LOSE $$ but yet they rarely play there.

i do think you're right about Scranton not going anywhere on the tour schedule though and would LOVE to see them add a 2nd night since it's my hometown but i don't see that happening. :(

Don't forget how it got skipped in 2007.

[spoot388]

Don't forget how it got skipped in 2007.


they played 15 less shows than normal that year. LOTS of places got skipped. hell, SPAC only got 1 night that year.

[Jtr132]

Pavilion's reason for only a one nighter is the don't have alot of help it showed this year because wraped tour was their the next day.

[spoot388]

Pavilion's reason for only a one nighter is the don't have alot of help it showed this year because wraped tour was their the next day.


this was back in 2006 that they said no to the 2 nighter, because they supposedly didn't have the manpower to clean up and get it ready for another show the next day. and wouldn't the fact that they can get the place ready for a day long festival that starts at 11am be proof that they can get it ready in time for a 2nd DMB show that wouldn't start until 6 hours after Warped Tour would start?

it really makes no sense why they wouldn't want DMB there a 2nd night if the band wanted to be there. hire extra help if thats what it takes. the amount of money the show would bring in would be 100x what they would have to pay for the extra help to get ready for that show. hell, there's that volunteering stuff to get a free lawn ticket. i'd be willing to bet that they could get 100 people to help clean the lawn after N1 if it meant they got a free lawn ticket to N2. there, problem solved. and they'll still get money from them N2 because they'll buy beer and whatever else.

[DMBzilla]

i highly doubt Scranton will be going anywhere from the touring schedule. after 2005, Dave wanted a 2nd night added for 2006. the only reason why it didn't happen was because the venue said no. Dave loves it here too much to not play here. i think as long as they're not LOSING money playing here, they'll keep coming back, even if they're not really making anything. at this point, they don't need to worry about money. so if they have a good time here, there's no reason to not come back.

It depends on large part on how they tour in 2012. If they decide to cut back, play 30-35 shows for the summer tour and hit all the big stops, I think Scranton is out of the picture (along with most other one nighters). Not saying I want this to happen -- I like the venue up there, it's pretty easy to get to, I've never had the problems with traffic that others have, and the shows there are usually pretty good (with this year being unreal).

But, look what happened with Starlake -- didn't come close to selling out either night in 2009, and PNC got the show in 2010.

[NedFlanderss]

Show gets better w each listen

[CaffeineQueen]

Show gets better w each listen

:thumbsup:thumbsup

and that improv still cracks me up.... rrrrrah!

[chaz1975]

i was at hershey and scrantan and i say hershey was better...better setlist, better crowd...and btw dmbalmanac voted hershey over scrantan
I was at both shows and Scranton won by a longshot. The crowd at Hershey was meh and Scranton was deafening. I was in the pit for both shows. The setlist at Scranton was much better too. Those that say the crowd wasn't into it were at a different show. My ears were ringing for two days.

[spoot388]

It depends on large part on how they tour in 2012. If they decide to cut back, play 30-35 shows for the summer tour and hit all the big stops, I think Scranton is out of the picture (along with most other one nighters). Not saying I want this to happen -- I like the venue up there, it's pretty easy to get to, I've never had the problems with traffic that others have, and the shows there are usually pretty good (with this year being unreal).

But, look what happened with Starlake -- didn't come close to selling out either night in 2009, and PNC got the show in 2010.


very true, but at the same time, it also would depend on what other shows they cut back on. if Bethel gets cut, zero or only 1 NYC show, 1 Camden show like SPAC got 1 in 07, no Hershey, etc then Scranton could still have the show. it also depends on how much pull Dave has for where they play. if he wants to play here, they'll probably be playing here.

as for Star Lake, that pavilion holds about 22,000 per show. PNC Park, with the GA Field, can hold 40,000 for one show. the same amount of tickets could have been sold, just in a different show setup. PNC was never getting 2 nights, even if both nights sold out last year. Pittsburgh isn't a city to get 2 nights. Boston and NYC can handle 2 nights, most other cities can't though.

[lillywhiteraven]

very true, but at the same time, it also would depend on what other shows they cut back on. if Bethel gets cut, zero or only 1 NYC show, 1 Camden show like SPAC got 1 in 07, no Hershey, etc then Scranton could still have the show. it also depends on how much pull Dave has for where they play. if he wants to play here, they'll probably be playing here.

as for Star Lake, that pavilion holds about 22,000 per show. PNC Park, with the GA Field, can hold 40,000 for one show. the same amount of tickets could have been sold, just in a different show setup. PNC was never getting 2 nights, even if both nights sold out last year. Pittsburgh isn't a city to get 2 nights. Boston and NYC can handle 2 nights, most other cities can't though.

Really hope that wouldn't happen. Awesome Awesome venue.

[jas230314]

I dont normally download shows, but I gotta make an exception here.. can someone give me a link/explanation on how this works exactly?

(that question makes me feel entirely n00bish)

[Brohan_Santana]

very true, but at the same time, it also would depend on what other shows they cut back on. if Bethel gets cut, zero or only 1 NYC show, 1 Camden show like SPAC got 1 in 07, no Hershey, etc then Scranton could still have the show. it also depends on how much pull Dave has for where they play. if he wants to play here, they'll probably be playing here.
.

I find it really hard to believe that they would cut Hershey. Especially since they have been playing there every year since '96

[spoot388]

I find it really hard to believe that they would cut Hershey. Especially since they have been playing there every year since '96


they did not play Hershey in 2007, which is the only year they did not play Scranton since 2005 because it was a short tour with between 35-40 shows. if they play another 35 show tour, they can easily cut Hershey because they already did it once, very recently.

[jas230314]

I think it all has to do with Daves influence over what gets chosen venue-wise. If he has any say in that, he would absolutely go out of his way to come back to Scranton. In the last 4 shows there, the venue and atmosphere and crowd has made him fall in love with the place.

It should be put in with the SPAC type venues. It is on the top of a mountain, beautiful surroundings, great great crowd (in all ways), and the tent acoustically brings a lot of crowd noise back to the band, which creates a fantastic communication between us and them.

Montage is and will forever be among my absolute favorite venues. Very unique and special shows there every year. I did get Last Stop at my 3rd show there :) along with lover lay down, american baby, lie in our graves, and a great set. Crappy encore haha, but the setlists speak for themselves.

[DMBzilla]

very true, but at the same time, it also would depend on what other shows they cut back on. if Bethel gets cut, zero or only 1 NYC show, 1 Camden show like SPAC got 1 in 07, no Hershey, etc then Scranton could still have the show. it also depends on how much pull Dave has for where they play. if he wants to play here, they'll probably be playing here.

At this point, there is no way that they cut NYC, Camden or SPAC down to one show. Also, it's my understanding that Dave has very little say in where they play -- he basically gets an email from Coran with the schedule and rolls with it.

as for Star Lake, that pavilion holds about 22,000 per show. PNC Park, with the GA Field, can hold 40,000 for one show. the same amount of tickets could have been sold, just in a different show setup. PNC was never getting 2 nights, even if both nights sold out last year. Pittsburgh isn't a city to get 2 nights. Boston and NYC can handle 2 nights, most other cities can't though.

I never said that PNC would be getting two nights. My point was that the band came nowhere near selling out Starlake last year either night, so this year they hedged their bets on one area show and came damn close to selling it out (one big show will sell more tickets than two smaller ones, because people don't have the choice of going one night or the other).

Also, as you yourself said, Scranton has a ton of competition between Hershey, Philly/Camden, and NYC. I like the venue there a bunch and the band usually puts on a very good show there, but I could definitely see them cutting it out if next summer's tour is cut to a reasonable number of shows.

[DMBzilla]

I find it really hard to believe that they would cut Hershey. Especially since they have been playing there every year since '96

Too bad they didn't play there in '97 or '07.

Are you ever right about anything? :lol

[crashintonickdm]

starlake >>>>>>> everything else in PA

[jas230314]

starlake >>>>>>> everything else in PA

Been to all the PA venues, and Scranton takes the cake. Plus, starlake didnt get any dates this tour, just PNC for the burgh.

Also, stop trying to erase Scranton.

[Jewelly]

I've been trying to download the Schopes tape from Scranton and for some reason keep getting an Error "access denied" message and have only downloaded a little. Using Bittorrent 6.4. I've tried force starting it a number of times. Not super educated with torrents so anyone who can help me out a little, it's much appreciated !

[jas230314]

^ Cant offer much help, but I would like to ask ppl which tape is the best quality? I am new to downloading shows, so I want to make sure I get the best of each show.

[SteelersBus]

Sorry for jumpin on the review boat late, but work, 2 kids, and gettin Wrigley tix via the .com BS kept me busy.

What a AMAZING night at Scranton!! It was my favorite of the 3 PA shows! And we were 2nd row in Hershey. In Scranton, the setlist, crowd, and band were ALL better IMHO.

The last 6 minutes of the night were absolutely chilling!! It was so damn intense! Dave was TOTALLY into it and you could tell he didn't wanna leave the stage!! He danced onto the stage and never stopped til he waved goodbye! The crowd singin "Thank You for lettin me be myself again!!" GOOSEBUMPS!! LOVE listenin to the recordin over and over!!

This was also a special night for my wife and I because our second favorite band...Cabinet(progressive bluegrass band from Scranton area) were performin on the stage just outside the main gates. To see my two favorite bands in the same day/venue!? WOW!!

Here's the pics I took of the evenin. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=191037&id=753673189&l=721cee94cd I was soooo bummed because I usually take video too, but was low on battery! IDIOT!!! Wanted Busted Stuff PNP-->Rapunzel and SDL so bad on video!

Anywho...Montage was our 15th DMB show and one of our tops!

[SteelersBus]

Oh! And I got some decent shots of Dave and Rashawn givin personal Thank You's at the end of the show. And a bunch of Carter shots tossin sticks. Any of you guys/gals the lucky folks on the receivin end??

[SyrFireDancer]

Oh! And I got some decent shots of Dave and Rashawn givin personal Thank You's at the end of the show. And a bunch of Carter shots tossin sticks. Any of you guys/gals the lucky folks on the receivin end??

I got robbed of my stick!!! I was right in the 1st row behind the pit and almost towards the end of when Carter was throwing them out. I was standing on my chair with my LOVE sign and he pointed right at me with the stick and threw it at me... his aim was a little off. It went 2 rows over my head. Of course the guy that ended up with it wasn't going to say "oh here, this belongs to you." I'm so bummed :(

[SyrFireDancer]

Oh! And I got some decent shots of Dave and Rashawn givin personal Thank You's at the end of the show. And a bunch of Carter shots tossin sticks. Any of you guys/gals the lucky folks on the receivin end??

I got robbed of my stick!!! I was right in the 1st row behind the pit and almost towards the end of when Carter was throwing them out. I was standing on my chair with my LOVE sign and he pointed right at me with the stick and threw it at me... his aim was a little off. It went 2 rows over my head. Of course the guy that ended up with it wasn't going to say "oh here, this belongs to you." I'm so bummed :(
HAHAHA I'm in your pics.... #50... thats my sign :)

[kfpoling]

Oh! And I got some decent shots of Dave and Rashawn givin personal Thank You's at the end of the show. And a bunch of Carter shots tossin sticks. Any of you guys/gals the lucky folks on the receivin end??
i would really appreciate any pictures of Rashawn signing the traveling LoVE sign if you got any!:)

edit: nevermind, went to your facebook!

[SteelersBus]

HAHAHA I'm in your pics.... #50... thats my sign :)

Very Cool! I figured there'd be a few folks in here that would be in the pictures! :thumbsup

i would really appreciate any pictures of Rashawn signing the traveling LoVE sign if you got any!:)

edit: nevermind, went to your facebook!

Nice! I was kinda bummed that the Carter sign was/is blockin the clear view of what he signed. But a memorable shot anywho.:)

[spoot388]

Very Cool! I figured there'd be a few folks in here that would be in the pictures! :thumbsup



Nice! I was kinda bummed that the Carter sign was/is blockin the clear view of what he signed. But a memorable shot anywho.:)


don't worry, i got a shot of rashawn signing it too. i was in the front row, so nothing was blocking my view :)

[grahamcracker3]

I've been back-reading, and it's sickening how quickly the set-watchers turn if favor or against this band.

I mean, several of them actually said "This Band is F-d" after seeing the encore, whereas throughout the main set they had nothing but praise.

Seriously, I was there. I know they have better songs than Y&M and SDL, but it was a damn powerful & satisfying way to end that show. It had a sense of closure that most don't have. The end of SDL Tim and Carter just kept Jamming.

I really thought that it serendipitous that the last words sung by Dave were "Thank You for...."

The whole thing was great, including the encore, and I have no complaints...in fact only profound appreciation.

[spoot388]

I've been back-reading, and it's sickening how quickly the set-watchers turn if favor or against this band.

I mean, several of them actually said "This Band is F-d" after seeing the encore, whereas throughout the main set they had nothing but praise.

Seriously, I was there. I know they have better songs than Y&M and SDL, but it was a damn powerful & satisfying way to end that show. It had a sense of closure that most don't have. The end of SDL Tim and Carter just kept Jamming.

I really thought that it serendipitous that the last words sung by Dave were "Thank You for...."

The whole thing was great, including the encore, and I have no complaints...in fact only profound appreciation.



its called sarcasm and it went way over your head.

[dh4645]

I've been back-reading, and it's sickening how quickly the set-watchers turn if favor or against this band.

I mean, several of them actually said "This Band is F-d" after seeing the encore, whereas throughout the main set they had nothing but praise.

Seriously, I was there. I know they have better songs than Y&M and SDL, but it was a damn powerful & satisfying way to end that show. It had a sense of closure that most don't have. The end of SDL Tim and Carter just kept Jamming.

I really thought that it serendipitous that the last words sung by Dave were "Thank You for...."

The whole thing was great, including the encore, and I have no complaints...in fact only profound appreciation.

it was the best SDL i've ever seen live. Y&M can suck it. it's a decent song to hear in your car or at home, but i really dont need to see it live again.

it's not like it's going to evolve into something awesome like SDL has...it is what it is....a radio friendly tune

[grahamcracker3]

it was the best SDL i've ever seen live. Y&M can suck it. it's a decent song to hear in your car or at home, but i really dont need to see it live again.

it's not like it's going to evolve into something awesome like SDL has...it is what it is....a radio friendly tune


At first I was a little disappointed to hear it only because I'd seen in before (in my limited concert-going) at SPAC '08. After which, they did "Thank You" in full.

I think I liked this version a lot better. As fun and funky as "TY" is, it kinda dragged on a bit.... this one was much more intense.

That said, until he handed in his guitar, you could tell Dave was seriously toying with going into another song. Maybe management came out and said that they were literally going to throw the switch.:D

[dh4645]

At first I was a little disappointed to hear it only because I'd seen in before (in my limited concert-going) at SPAC '08. After which, they did "Thank You" in full.

I think I liked this version a lot better. As fun and funky as "TY" is, it kinda dragged on a bit.... this one was much more intense.

That said, until he handed in his guitar, you could tell Dave was seriously toying with going into another song. Maybe management came out and said that they were literally going to throw the switch.:D

i know right, it was a bit late. #3 all time longest dmb shows.

i did love his dancing and with the sunglasses on. funny

[grahamcracker3]

i know right, it was a bit late. #3 all time longest dmb shows.

i did love his dancing and with the sunglasses on. funny


Also the "Improv". How flippin funny was that.

They should standardize it and name it

"Anyone Seen the Dog?"

[CaffeineQueen]

Also the "Improv". How flippin funny was that.

They should standardize it and name it

"Anyone Seen the Dog?"

rrrrrah!

[dh4645]

Also the "Improv". How flippin funny was that.

They should standardize it and name it

"Anyone Seen the Dog?"

hah, yeah..."Rrraaaaah"

there are a few videos on youtube of the show...incuding that and the dancing.

i made one of the two step drum solo. my phone audio sucked so i got a video editing program yesterday and replaced the audio with the recording from dreamingtree.org

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APLyHvb4QPo

[CaffeineQueen]

btw, I love that this is still stickied. :D

[jas230314]

Oh! And I got some decent shots of Dave and Rashawn givin personal Thank You's at the end of the show. And a bunch of Carter shots tossin sticks. Any of you guys/gals the lucky folks on the receivin end??

THANKS SO MUCH!!

The first picture you have of Carter handing a stick to someone was to my girlfriend :D She was the only fan to get handed a stick (not thrown! :lol). She will absolutely love this picture - thank you so much!

[TripPin BilLie]

That said, until he handed in his guitar, you could tell Dave was seriously toying with going into another song. Maybe management came out and said that they were literally going to throw the switch.:D

i seriously thought they were going to go into ants or something. i didnt want them to end it on sdl, but ill take it. that version was hot.

[spoot388]

during the SDL outro, i believe it was before TY started, Carter was sort of soloing. it was kind of like what he does with the Snare Intro, where he keeps the beat but fills around it. the lights also started flashing from green to red. they were thinking about Halloween, even if just for a moment. its too bad they didn't do it.

[Somethin4Nothin]

Seeing Tim go nuts on the SDL solo he does live is the shit. Its amazing how such a little man can play soo damn good. Dave wanted to play Halloween too IMO. Plus im sure it helped that the kid with the pumpkin face plate and flashlight was in the front row turning it on every 5 minutes haha. I loved that.

[dh4645]

during the SDL outro, i believe it was before TY started, Carter was sort of soloing. it was kind of like what he does with the Snare Intro, where he keeps the beat but fills around it. the lights also started flashing from green to red. they were thinking about Halloween, even if just for a moment. its too bad they didn't do it.

where is the copy of the setlist?
not on dmbalmanac yet

[grahamcracker3]

during the SDL outro, i believe it was before TY started, Carter was sort of soloing. it was kind of like what he does with the Snare Intro, where he keeps the beat but fills around it. the lights also started flashing from green to red. they were thinking about Halloween, even if just for a moment. its too bad they didn't do it.

I though it was coming too...

but I really really can't complain. Holy shit it was 11:40 at that point.

"rrrRAH">PNP>Rapunzel was my personal highlight.

I actually parsed the show over 4 discs.

D1 42:20
Stone, Warehouse, Grace, Seven

D2 44:55
YMDT, Billies, Cry Freedom, LITHOG, Gravedigger

D3 56:25
Intro>OSW, rrrRAH, PNP, Rapunzel, Why I Am, Busted Stuff, #41

D4 47:50
Shake Me, Two Step, Encore Break, You and Me, SDL.

Tried every way to fit it on 3, but even with removing the encore break you still can't move #41 around in a way that fits.

Unreal.

[dh4645]

I though it was coming too...

but I really really can't complain. Holy shit it was 11:40 at that point.

"rrrRAH">PNP>Rapunzel was my personal highlight.

I actually parsed the show over 4 discs.

D1 42:20
Stone, Warehouse, Grace, Seven

D2 44:55
YMDT, Billies, Cry Freedom, LITHOG, Gravedigger

D3 56:25
Intro>OSW, rrrRAH, PNP, Rapunzel, Why I Am, Busted Stuff, #41

D4 47:50
Shake Me, Two Step, Encore Break, You and Me, SDL.

Tried every way to fit it on 3, but even with removing the encore break you still can't move #41 around in a way that fits.

Unreal.

you're crazy

Dave Matthoews Band
Toyota Pavillion @ Montage Mountain
Scranton, PA
July 14, 2010

Schoeps MK41's>Schoeps VST62ui>Sound Devices 744t

Sound Forge Pro 10 (Fades,iZotope MBIT+ Bit depth conversion to 16 Bit/44.1khz)>CDWAV>FLAC

Recorded & Processed By Keith Litzenberger (recording@wklitz.com)



Setlist:

Disc 1:

The Stone
Warehouse
Grace Is Gone
Seven
You Might Die Trying
Tripping Billies

Disc 2:

Cry Freedom
Lying In the Hands of God
Gravedigger
One Sweet World
Improv
Pantala Naga Pampa>
Rapunzel
Why I Am

Disc 3:

Busted Stuff
#41
Shake Me Like a Monkey
Two Step
crowd
You and Me
So Damn Lucky

[grahamcracker3]

I only had 700mb CDs, not 750 or 800s.

Plus I used AIFFs, not MP3s

It also helps that I have a

[grahamcracker3]

multi disc in the car.

[spoot388]

where is the copy of the setlist?
not on dmbalmanac yet

the only thing scratched from the setlist was Little Red Bird E1 due to time. everything else was played as written.

[DrGonzo8]

I joined ants right after the Scranton show, even though i was familiar with the site for a while. And i must agree with all the positive reviews of this show. For all intents and purposes, the audience was another band member for a good portion of the show. Heck, on the bus back to the stadium lot, they were still singing "Thank You" ( which started walking out of the venue. )
I had seats in the off center section 203, however spent a good amount of time off the side by the beer concession dancing and such. And ended up with a much better view actually. Was able to see side stage screens for close ups, and the whole band with out any obstruction. + the beer concession was closed at 1000 so there were only a handful of people there, and with the extended playing time worked out quite well.
The give and take between the band and the crowd was phenomenal, especially for such intimate surroundings, and this just drove them further and further over the edge resulting in the jaw dropping show we got.
Ive been to all the Montage shows ( from the area ) and have been lucky enough to have inside tickets at all times, since the lawn can be so hit or miss. This one by far trumps 08.
Did anyone happen to look down on the venue from the sides when using the restrooms err... boxes? aside from the sparsley filled back back 1/6th of the inside seating, the rest, and lawn especially was just a crazy sea of people. I never really noticed how far back the lawn goes until that show.
anyway, hope to meet some of ya's at shows in the future.

[Jewelly]

Again, I'm getting nowhere trying to download a Scranton torrent. Would love some help. I've tried the Schoeps tape a number of times and reverted to the Brown tape and I get .something percent and then it says Error: Access denied. Any help in hearing this great show would be much appreciated.

[CaffeineQueen]

Again, I'm getting nowhere trying to download a Scranton torrent. Would love some help. I've tried the Schoeps tape a number of times and reverted to the Brown tape and I get .something percent and then it says Error: Access denied. Any help in hearing this great show would be much appreciated.

I can give you a link for mp3 when I get home?

[grahamcracker3]

Again, I'm getting nowhere trying to download a Scranton torrent. Would love some help. I've tried the Schoeps tape a number of times and reverted to the Brown tape and I get .something percent and then it says Error: Access denied. Any help in hearing this great show would be much appreciated.

I had the same issue with another show recently. It was actually one of latzenburger's shows. It was nothing more than a syntax error in the torrent file name.

Try to fetch the show from DreamingTree.org, that's where I got it Thursday morning.

[41Saratoga]

Hi Scranton! Was this really a week ago already???

[41Saratoga]

One week ago from right now I was tailgating!

[SteelersBus]

Again, I'm getting nowhere trying to download a Scranton torrent. Would love some help. I've tried the Schoeps tape a number of times and reverted to the Brown tape and I get .something percent and then it says Error: Access denied. Any help in hearing this great show would be much appreciated.

PM me your address and I'll send you the show burned on cd discs. :)

[JTR178]

Decided I was going to listen to this show for the first time end to end tonight, and damn I'm only at Grace Is Gone and it's ridiculously good!

[TripPin BilLie]

i love how this is still stickied :p

[spoot388]

i love how this is still stickied :p


i noticed that a few days ago too. i guess we know what show was the best of the year so far. :lol

[TripPin BilLie]

charlotte might be giving it a run for its money though :p

[dh4645]

charlotte might be giving it a run for its money though :p

other than minarets its looking standard so far

[TripPin BilLie]

other than minarets its looking standard so far

and lover lay down :rolleyes

[dh4645]

and lover lay down :rolleyes

yeah, blah

i dont mind the song...just dont care to see it live ever again. it puts everyone to sleep

[dh4645]

yeah, blah

i dont mind the song...just dont care to see it live ever again. it puts everyone to sleep

ugh, they played sister too. i would have died of boredom if i would have went to that show. hah. i would have loved to see minarets LIVE again. the last time was in Camden 2001

[grahamcracker3]

Anyone trashing the Scranton encore has no room to speak after last night.

At least everyone knew the lyrics to You & Me and could sing along, not so sure about Sister.....

Oh yeah, and SDL is awesome.

I mean Cornbread rocks out, but as a closer? That had to be one monster how-down for it to work..

[Jewelly]

I had the same issue with another show recently. It was actually one of latzenburger's shows. It was nothing more than a syntax error in the torrent file name.

Try to fetch the show from DreamingTree.org, that's where I got it Thursday morning.

That's where I've been trying to get it from. Deleted the torrent and data a number of times, trying to clear things up you know. I've successfully DLed from there before. :shrug

I can give you a link for mp3 when I get home?

THAT would be fucking stellar!!!! I'm holding you to it Missy. ;)

PM me your address and I'll send you the show burned on cd discs. :)

That is very generous! Thank you very much for the offer. I may hit you up if my friend the Queen doesn't come thru. :) I'm sure she will. Thank you !

[CaffeineQueen]

That's where I've been trying to get it from. Deleted the torrent and data a number of times, trying to clear things up you know. I've successfully DLed from there before. :shrug



THAT would be fucking stellar!!!! I'm holding you to it Missy. ;)



That is very generous! Thank you very much for the offer. I may hit you up if my friend the Queen doesn't come thru. :) I'm sure she will. Thank you !

well, I forgot last night, but I'll make a little reminder for tonight. :lol

[Jewelly]

well, I forgot last night, but I'll make a little reminder for tonight. :lol

I will much appreciate it toots! I'll try to tickle you later on to remind you and THANK YOU ! :thumbsup :thumbsup :hug

[41Saratoga]

Hi Scranton! I hope everyone has a lovely weekend!

[kgbaux]

I was at the DC show last night. man Scranton blew my mind so much I was hoping for the vibe last night also.the crowed is what does it for me. Im not a setlist cry baby. I go to hear Dave no matter what. So if whats left is a good time with the people around you and when they sit half the show or have no clue what half the songs are is a total buzz kill. I go to show to sing, dance and be merry!!!

[rdp520]

I was at the DC show last night. man Scranton blew my mind so much I was hoping for the vibe last night also.the crowed is what does it for me. Im not a setlist cry baby. I go to hear Dave no matter what. So if whats left is a good time with the people around you and when they sit half the show or have no clue what half the songs are is a total buzz kill. I go to show to sing, dance and be merry!!!


scranton was great...i was in the pit. the night before i was at bethel in section 13 and the crowd in our section was very lame. i think me and my wife and 1 other lady were the only ones up dancing....everybody else just sat there. it was a very nice place though.....if i get to see dmb there again i will try to get in a closer section.

[Primordialsoup]

scranton was great...i was in the pit. the night before i was at bethel in section 13 and the crowd in our section was very lame. i think me and my wife and 1 other lady were the only ones up dancing....everybody else just sat there. it was a very nice place though.....if i get to see dmb there again i will try to get in a closer section.

Had the same experience as you both nights. :thumbsup for Scranton.

[rdp520]

had to bring the best dmb show of 2010 to the front page. seriously, i've been to bethel and hershey, how bout get rid of those 2 stops and do 2 nights in scranton. bethel is very nice,i'm not to crazy about hershey. what do you guys think?

[aircavmike]

had to bring the best dmb show of 2010 to the front page. seriously, i've been to bethel and hershey, how bout get rid of those 2 stops and do 2 nights in scranton. bethel is very nice,i'm not to crazy about hershey. what do you guys think?


Personally, i would LOVE if Montage got a 2 nighter.....but that is just not realistic no matter what anyone says (including Matthews saying over and over how much he loves the place) And unfortunately Hershey routinely gets crowds of 25-30K so that won't be dropped for an additional show at Montage which can only hold about 17K.

They would have to drop Bethel for it to happen since they are similar in capacity but that might not be likely since Bethel draws some different demographic even being an hour and a half away from Montage.

[spoot388]

Personally, i would LOVE if Montage got a 2 nighter.....but that is just not realistic no matter what anyone says (including Matthews saying over and over how much he loves the place) And unfortunately Hershey routinely gets crowds of 25-30K so that won't be dropped for an additional show at Montage which can only hold about 17K.

They would have to drop Bethel for it to happen since they are similar in capacity but that might not be likely since Bethel draws some different demographic even being an hour and a half away from Montage.


i honestly believe that the only reason they play at bethel is because they couldn't get 2 nights at montage. after 2005, DAVE wanted to have 2 nights in scranton in 2006. for some reason the venue said no. because of this, the venue has since always been looked at as a secondary venue, which is why it got scratched from the 07 tour. if scranton got 2 nights in 06, there would have been at least 1 night in 07 because it would have been on the same level of SPAC, Camden, and Hartford.

i know attendance has decreased the last few years, but thats because more and more people are not doing 1 nighters. they dont have the money to do all the shows they want, so they save up to make trips to big venues that get 2 nights. if scranton got 2 nights in 06, it would have become a destination venue, like a Camden or Star Lake, and would still hold a good attendance for both shows as people would travel to it.

but we got stuck with only 1 night. so with bethel being a little over an hour away, they started playing there and selling out 15k+ seats. that alone goes to show that there would be enough people to draw well for 2 nights in scranton. its a shame the venue was too stubborn to allow it to happen.

[aircavmike]

i honestly believe that the only reason they play at bethel is because they couldn't get 2 nights at montage. after 2005, DAVE wanted to have 2 nights in scranton in 2006. for some reason the venue said no. because of this, the venue has since always been looked at as a secondary venue, which is why it got scratched from the 07 tour. if scranton got 2 nights in 06, there would have been at least 1 night in 07 because it would have been on the same level of SPAC, Camden, and Hartford.

i know attendance has decreased the last few years, but thats because more and more people are not doing 1 nighters. they dont have the money to do all the shows they want, so they save up to make trips to big venues that get 2 nights. if scranton got 2 nights in 06, it would have become a destination venue, like a Camden or Star Lake, and would still hold a good attendance for both shows as people would travel to it.

but we got stuck with only 1 night. so with bethel being a little over an hour away, they started playing there and selling out 15k+ seats. that alone goes to show that there would be enough people to draw well for 2 nights in scranton. its a shame the venue was too stubborn to allow it to happen.


ehh.... Bethel just opened within the last couple years and was/is constantly pumped up due to it's scenery and obvious history. The band would be playing there regardless IMO.

i disagree with you about 2007. NO way dmb would have played Montage that year, heck they didn't even play Hershey which is about an hour and a half away and that holds almost 13K more people.

They sold out Bethel the past few years but haven't come close to selling out Montage those same years.... i'd say it's simple math w/ Montage unfortunately coming up short. Like i said i live 15 minutes from the venue and would LOVE a 2 night stand but the market is not big enough to support no matter how much "Dave" loves the place.

[spoot388]

if Montage was established as a 2 night stand in 2006 like the band wanted, it would definitely have had at least 1 show in 2007. looking at the 2007 tour, every normal 2 night stand got 2 nights, with the exception of SPAC and Star Lake, which both got 1 night, but still got a night. Scranton would have still had at least 1 show that year. because it was only a 1 nighter at the time, it was seen as a secondary venue. the majority of the shows not played in 07 were 1 night stops.

as for hershey, the short tour had nothing to do with them not playing there in 2007. in 2006, there were so many problems at the DMB show that hershey did not invite the band back to play there in 2007. at the end of the year, hershey realized that 2007 (without DMB) was their lowest grossing concert year ever. they wisely offered DMB a date to play there in 2008.

and bethel selling out is in fact a reason to believe scranton could hold 2 nights. there is enough of a crowd local to bethel to sell probably 11,000 tickets at BW, with several thousand coming from outside the local area. scranton, when it was selling 18,000 tickets a few years ago, would have been bringing probably closer to 16,000 locals, with a couple thousand travelers as scranton did not have the reputation it does today to attract fans from farther distances.

now that scranton has the reputation of good shows and a great atmposphere, more people would be willing to travel here if there were 2 nights. take away the bethel show and those locals would likely come to at least one night of scranton, as it would be the biggest venue to where they live and is not all that far away. many of the scranton locals would also go to both nights. there are a lot of high school and college kids in the area. 2 dave shows means 2 nights of partying. there are also a lot of real fans here too. average 15,000 per show over the 5 years DMB has played here, add in the bethel locals who would make the trip down for one of the nights (i'll conservatively say 5,000). add in the scranton locals that go to both nights or go to the 2nd night as they couldn't make it to the first for various reasons (3-5,000). and then add in all the people who would travel here.

not many people would make a 6 hour drive to a 1 nighter, but people fly thousands of miles for the big 2 nighters. check all the dots from the northeast that went down to florida for WPB this weekend http://antsmarching.org/tour/ViewShow.php?ShowID=4185 people travel for the 2 night stands. all those people, plus those going to SPAC, Hartford, Mansfield, Deer Creek, etc, all would have the option of going to 2 nights at scranton now. many of them would want to check out what all the fuss is about and make the trip. that would probably be another 3,000+ tickets between the 2 nights.

totaling all those up, that would be nearly 30,000 people for 2 shows in a venue that would hold a total of 34,000. and if the economy was as good now as it was back in 05/06 when DMB was OVER-selling montage just from the locals, they would easily be selling out both nights of a 2 night stand here.

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if Montage was established as a 2 night stand in 2006 like the band wanted, it would definitely have had at least 1 show in 2007. looking at the 2007 tour, every normal 2 night stand got 2 nights, with the exception of SPAC and Star Lake, which both got 1 night, but still got a night. Scranton would have still had at least 1 show that year. because it was only a 1 nighter at the time, it was seen as a secondary venue. the majority of the shows not played in 07 were 1 night stops.

as for hershey, the short tour had nothing to do with them not playing there in 2007. in 2006, there were so many problems at the DMB show that hershey did not invite the band back to play there in 2007. at the end of the year, hershey realized that 2007 (without DMB) was their lowest grossing concert year ever. they wisely offered DMB a date to play there in 2008.

and bethel selling out is in fact a reason to believe scranton could hold 2 nights. there is enough of a crowd local to bethel to sell probably 11,000 tickets at BW, with several thousand coming from outside the local area. scranton, when it was selling 18,000 tickets a few years ago, would have been bringing probably closer to 16,000 locals, with a couple thousand travelers as scranton did not have the reputation it does today to attract fans from farther distances.

now that scranton has the reputation of good shows and a great atmposphere, more people would be willing to travel here if there were 2 nights. take away the bethel show and those locals would likely come to at least one night of scranton, as it would be the biggest venue to where they live and is not all that far away. many of the scranton locals would also go to both nights. there are a lot of high school and college kids in the area. 2 dave shows means 2 nights of partying. there are also a lot of real fans here too. average 15,000 per show over the 5 years DMB has played here, add in the bethel locals who would make the trip down for one of the nights (i'll conservatively say 5,000). add in the scranton locals that go to both nights or go to the 2nd night as they couldn't make it to the first for various reasons (3-5,000). and then add in all the people who would travel here.

not many people would make a 6 hour drive to a 1 nighter, but people fly thousands of miles for the big 2 nighters. check all the dots from the northeast that went down to florida for WPB this weekend http://antsmarching.org/tour/ViewShow.php?ShowID=4185 people travel for the 2 night stands. all those people, plus those going to SPAC, Hartford, Mansfield, Deer Creek, etc, all would have the option of going to 2 nights at scranton now. many of them would want to check out what all the fuss is about and make the trip. that would probably be another 3,000+ tickets between the 2 nights.

totaling all those up, that would be nearly 30,000 people for 2 shows in a venue that would hold a total of 34,000. and if the economy was as good now as it was back in 05/06 when DMB was OVER-selling montage just from the locals, they would easily be selling out both nights of a 2 night stand here.


i went to bethel and scranton and it would have been so much easier and probally better to have 2nights of dmb @ montage


i had no expectations about the venue and it just blew bethel and others out of the water..but it dosent hurt when the set was that good

[grahamcracker3]

i went to bethel and scranton and it would have been so much easier and probally better to have 2nights of dmb @ montage


i had no expectations about the venue and it just blew bethel and others out of the water..but it dosent hurt when the set was that good

Syracuse, Binghamton, Philly, NYC, Harrisburg, Baltimore, Jersey....all within 1-2 hours. Rochester, Pitt, Albany, LI, DC, Conn. and more within 2-4.

It's actually a more accessible destination for more municipal areas than SPAC, Camden, or Hartford.

Plus the view is unreal.

[spoot388]

Syracuse, Binghamton, Philly, NYC, Harrisburg, Baltimore, Jersey....all within 1-2 hours. Rochester, Pitt, Albany, LI, DC, Conn. and more within 2-4.

It's actually a more accessible destination for more municipal areas than SPAC, Camden, or Hartford.

Plus the view is unreal.



close, but not quite.


Bing is 1 hour exactly. Jersey is mostly 1.5 hours or more. Cuse, Philly, NYC (to the bridge, not into the city itself), Harrisburg are all 2-2.5 hours. Rochester, Albany, Conn, LI are 3 hours. Baltimore is closer to 4, and DC is 4-5. Pitt is also 5 hours.


Scranton does have a better atmosphere than Bethel. Bethel has the better grounds, but its hard to compete when Bethel has so much land while most other venues, including Scranton, are kept in a small area. the real draw for Bethel is the museum though. if it didn't have that, it would lose half the reason to go there. the pavilion itself isn't aynthing special. its actually pretty plain looking compared to others. there isn't much character to the pavilion like a SPAC. its more like a junior Camden. just a roof full of black steel.

[rdp520]

close, but not quite.


Bing is 1 hour exactly. Jersey is mostly 1.5 hours or more. Cuse, Philly, NYC (to the bridge, not into the city itself), Harrisburg are all 2-2.5 hours. Rochester, Albany, Conn, LI are 3 hours. Baltimore is closer to 4, and DC is 4-5. Pitt is also 5 hours.


Scranton does have a better atmosphere than Bethel. Bethel has the better grounds, but its hard to compete when Bethel has so much land while most other venues, including Scranton, are kept in a small area. the real draw for Bethel is the museum though. if it didn't have that, it would lose half the reason to go there. the pavilion itself isn't aynthing special. its actually pretty plain looking compared to others. there isn't much character to the pavilion like a SPAC. its more like a junior Camden. just a roof full of black steel.


scranton should at least try 2 nights, like i said earlier in the thread, if they got rid of bethel and hershey scranton would draw a bigger crowd. the fact that they were having a 2 night stand would attract more ppl.Bethel is very nice and i would def go there again, i just think the whole woodstock thing and the museum is a little overrated. nothing against the venue at all, its a nice place. 2 nights at scranton just makes alot of sense,especially if they were trying to cut down on some traveling. only time will tell though, it is just something i would love to see happen. i hope they keep playing there 1 night, let alone 2.

[grahamcracker3]

The only thing about two nights at Scranton is the management probably knows we'd all try to camp in our cars overnight. Two consecutive nights of getting down that hill would drive all of us to be institutionalized.

[grahamcracker3]

BTW, did anyone notice Scranton, even in the wake of the two WPB shows, just nudged up to 4.76?

I think when all is said and done this will be looked back at as the premier show of the season.

3rd Longest Show ever. Rapunzel TD. Only an EPIC YMDT from SU and ED. No Bread. No FTWII. Cry Freedom Cry. Full OSW. Dave Barking. Awesome Davespeak in general.
Stone>Warehouse>GIG w/hoedown.

[rdp520]

The only thing about two nights at Scranton is the management probably knows we'd all try to camp in our cars overnight. Two consecutive nights of getting down that hill would drive all of us to be institutionalized.

in the scranton/wilkes-barre area there are a ton of hotels and bars. alot of places to go camping if you really want to. alot of spots to have ants gatherings and stuff like that. it would work if given a chance.

[spoot388]

scranton should at least try 2 nights, like i said earlier in the thread, if they got rid of bethel and hershey scranton would draw a bigger crowd. the fact that they were having a 2 night stand would attract more ppl.Bethel is very nice and i would def go there again, i just think the whole woodstock thing and the museum is a little overrated. nothing against the venue at all, its a nice place. 2 nights at scranton just makes alot of sense,especially if they were trying to cut down on some traveling. only time will tell though, it is just something i would love to see happen. i hope they keep playing there 1 night, let alone 2.

they wouldnt need to get rid of hershey. that would still pull 25,000 with 2 nights in scranton. bethel would likely have to go though. and yes, bethel is a bit overrated. the museum is cool to do once, but after going to bethel the 1st time, theres nothing special about it the 2nd time. it becomes just another show because everything that made it the special stop the first time doesn't mean anything the 2nd time. theres no need to go to the museum again. its just about tailgating and the show itself. and scranton has a better tailgating scene and a better pavilion.



The only thing about two nights at Scranton is the management probably knows we'd all try to camp in our cars overnight. Two consecutive nights of getting down that hill would drive all of us to be institutionalized.

:lol ya that would drive people insane. but you know what, this year i stayed back and hung out with friends after the show and it was not that bad. between all the running around we did between cars and talking with everyone, it was 1am before we knew it. the cops were kicking everybody out at that point. we got off the mountain with virtually no traffic at that time, and it was not even an hour and a half since the show ended.

if you are with some friends, bring enough stuff to hang out after the show while traffic disappates. the time goes by fast.



BTW, did anyone notice Scranton, even in the wake of the two WPB shows, just nudged up to 4.76?

I think when all is said and done this will be looked back at as the premier show of the season.

3rd Longest Show ever. Rapunzel TD. Only an EPIC YMDT from SU and ED. No Bread. No FTWII. Cry Freedom Cry. Full OSW. Dave Barking. Awesome Davespeak in general.
Stone>Warehouse>GIG w/hoedown.


ya, i love how scranton has the highest rated show. and it definitely deserves it.

in the scranton/wilkes-barre area there are a ton of hotels and bars. alot of places to go camping if you really want to. alot of spots to have ants gatherings and stuff like that. it would work if given a chance.


ya, there are things to do, but what he's saying is to get to any of that you need to sit in traffic trying to get down the mountain after the show, which can be a bitch.

[dh4645]

The only thing about two nights at Scranton is the management probably knows we'd all try to camp in our cars overnight. Two consecutive nights of getting down that hill would drive all of us to be institutionalized.

it took me and the wife a while to get to my car with the crowd, but i was close to an exit to the main road and was out of the lots and starting down the hill in 5 minutes. i got stopped once to let other cars out for 10 min, but then after that is was smooth sailing to 81 and was back at the hilton scranton by 12:30. it helped actually having workers direct traffic unlike some places.

[aircavmike]

Spoot..... i admire your enthusiasm for Montage Mt, i do. but again i disagree.

you mention "lots of college kids here" well the show is in the summer when the vast majority of them are out of the area.

also.... it IS a secondary market, it's so close to NYC, Philly, Hartford, SPAC. all are within a 3 hour drive which makes Scranton HIGHLY unlikely of ever getting 2 nights with those places routinely getting 2.

Again, the band can play Hershey and sell 30,000 tickets for one show
They would have to play Montage 2 nights to do the same. Simple math and if it wasn't then the band would be playing Red Rocks every year. While Montage has a great atmosphere i don't think anyone here that has been to Red Rocks would say it's on par with that place. Yet when the band does play in CO they rarely play at red rocks.

Again, i would love for nothing more for my "hometown" venue to get 2 nights but it just isn't realistic.... i HOPE I'M WRONG in 2012 :D

[BryanMPolDV]

The opening run of The Stone-->Warehouse and Grace is Gone is some of the best stuff I've ever heard the band do. Listening to this show still gives me the chills and should for a long, long time.

[dh4645]

The opening run of The Stone-->Warehouse and Grace is Gone is some of the best stuff I've ever heard the band do. Listening to this show still gives me the chills and should for a long, long time.

i know right!
of my 24 shows since 2000 it's in the top 3...maybe even #1
the only thing that would have made it better was if our usual crew could have made it
unfortunately it was the middle of the week and only the wife and i could make it (she's a school teacher and was off..and i was in scranton for work)
but we had the best time tailgating old school style with 2 chairs and a cooler...and obviously at the awesome show with our great seats i got from a fellow ant.

[BryanMPolDV]

i know right!
of my 24 shows since 2000 it's in the top 3...maybe even #1
the only thing that would have made it better was if our usual crew could have made it
unfortunately it was the middle of the week and only the wife and i could make it (she's a school teacher and was off..and i was in scranton for work)
but we had the best time tailgating old school style with 2 chairs and a cooler...and obviously at the awesome show with our great seats i got from a fellow ant.

The moment the night ended, I regarded it as the 2nd best show I'd ever attended...just behind 8.23.00 at Hersheypark (I've been to 11 in total).

I, myself, am a teacher and love having the summers off, as it gives me the chance to hit up as many ball games and shows as possible. This was the first year I went to two shows in consecutive nights (Bethel the night before being the other) and would most certainly consider doing it again.

Not to say the Bethel shows these past two years weren't worth going to, but looking back on things, I had so much fun at Scranton in '06 (minus the dreadful encore) and '10 that I may skip Bethel in the future, continue attending the Montage shows, and start going back to Hershey, which I did for consecutive years in '00 and '01.

[spoot388]

Spoot..... i admire your enthusiasm for Montage Mt, i do. but again i disagree.

you mention "lots of college kids here" well the show is in the summer when the vast majority of them are out of the area.

also.... it IS a secondary market, it's so close to NYC, Philly, Hartford, SPAC. all are within a 3 hour drive which makes Scranton HIGHLY unlikely of ever getting 2 nights with those places routinely getting 2.

Again, the band can play Hershey and sell 30,000 tickets for one show
They would have to play Montage 2 nights to do the same. Simple math and if it wasn't then the band would be playing Red Rocks every year. While Montage has a great atmosphere i don't think anyone here that has been to Red Rocks would say it's on par with that place. Yet when the band does play in CO they rarely play at red rocks.

Again, i would love for nothing more for my "hometown" venue to get 2 nights but it just isn't realistic.... i HOPE I'M WRONG in 2012 :D


the college kids come FROM scranton, not go there. ya we have a bunch of schools here, but for every 1 kid that comes here, 2 from here go somewhere else. and a lot of the students stay local too. about 40% of my graduating class from high school went to a Penn State campus as a freshman.



The moment the night ended, I regarded it as the 2nd best show I'd ever attended...just behind 8.23.00 at Hersheypark (I've been to 11 in total).

I, myself, am a teacher and love having the summers off, as it gives me the chance to hit up as many ball games and shows as possible. This was the first year I went to two shows in consecutive nights (Bethel the night before being the other) and would most certainly consider doing it again.

Not to say the Bethel shows these past two years weren't worth going to, but looking back on things, I had so much fun at Scranton in '06 (minus the dreadful encore) and '10 that I may skip Bethel in the future, continue attending the Montage shows, and start going back to Hershey, which I did for consecutive years in '00 and '01.


i agree with the last paragraph. i was at both bethel shows and all 5 scranton shows and everything is just better at scranton. its hard to not go to bethel being that its so close, but it doesn't have any staying power as a destination venue. its really cool to see once, it was nice the 2nd time, but the next time its just going to be a regular 1 nighter. the charm of the area will be worn off for anyone who has been there before. it doesn't have the feel for a DMB show. there is no buzz in the air at bethel like there is at other places.

[grahamcracker3]

Just noticed that Busted Stuff, Grace Is Gone, & Cry Freedom haven't been played since Montage & the full OSW only once.

Just sayin'..

[BryanMPolDV]

Just noticed that Busted Stuff, Grace Is Gone, & Cry Freedom haven't been played since Montage & the full OSW only once.

Just sayin'..

No reason any of these should have been shelved, especially the intro to OSW. No complaints here, though; it makes Montage even more special. :D

LT19, please. :thumbsup

[BryanMPolDV]

the college kids come FROM scranton, not go there. ya we have a bunch of schools here, but for every 1 kid that comes here, 2 from here go somewhere else. and a lot of the students stay local too. about 40% of my graduating class from high school went to a Penn State campus as a freshman.






i agree with the last paragraph. i was at both bethel shows and all 5 scranton shows and everything is just better at scranton. its hard to not go to bethel being that its so close, but it doesn't have any staying power as a destination venue. its really cool to see once, it was nice the 2nd time, but the next time its just going to be a regular 1 nighter. the charm of the area will be worn off for anyone who has been there before. it doesn't have the feel for a DMB show. there is no buzz in the air at bethel like there is at other places.

I think Bethel is a gorgeous venue and more aesthetically pleasing, in spots, than Montage. But there's something about Scranton that makes it spectacular. The set was GREAT this year and '06 had a wonderful set (minus the encore)...we were recipients of the Last Stop that year, not to mention the PNP/Rapunzel opener, Granny, Grey Street, LLD --> LIOG, Grace is Gone, and an Ants set closer.

[dh4645]

The moment the night ended, I regarded it as the 2nd best show I'd ever attended...just behind 8.23.00 at Hersheypark (I've been to 11 in total).



that was my first show

[spoot388]

Just noticed that Busted Stuff, Grace Is Gone, & Cry Freedom haven't been played since Montage & the full OSW only once.

Just sayin'..

the OSW Intro was played like 2 other times after Montage.


I think Bethel is a gorgeous venue and more aesthetically pleasing, in spots, than Montage. But there's something about Scranton that makes it spectacular. The set was GREAT this year and '06 had a wonderful set (minus the encore)...we were recipients of the Last Stop that year, not to mention the PNP/Rapunzel opener, Granny, Grey Street, LLD --> LIOG, Grace is Gone, and an Ants set closer.


Bethel is a very good looking venue, better looking than Montage, but after the first time it isn't so special anymore. last year it was like "wow this place is amazing!" this year it was like "oh, ya, this place is really nice". next time will lose even more. but there is no DMB atmosphere there. the actual pavilion doesn't have any character to it like other places, and the crowd is not up to par with other venues.

Scranton does have the character and the crowd though to be up there with the other great places to see shows. Scranton is probably one of the best single night shows from year to year.

[crashintonickdm]

the OSW Intro was played like 2 other times after Montage.





Bethel is a very good looking venue, better looking than Montage, but after the first time it isn't so special anymore. last year it was like "wow this place is amazing!" this year it was like "oh, ya, this place is really nice". next time will lose even more. but there is no DMB atmosphere there. the actual pavilion doesn't have any character to it like other places, and the crowd is not up to par with other venues.

Scranton does have the character and the crowd though to be up there with the other great places to see shows. Scranton is probably one of the best single night shows from year to year.

scranton is the most underrated venue DMB plays at. people were shocked at how good it was this year, not me. i even tried to tell people.

[spoot388]

scranton is the most underrated venue DMB plays at. people were shocked at how good it was this year, not me. i even tried to tell people.


and the amazing thing is there is A LOT that can (and actually should) be done to it to improve the venue overall. they won't do it, but the place could be even better than it is.