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aggiekjw
04-08-2012, 12:20 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/sillywhite

Tonight Steve Lillywhite is on the record as saying the forthcoming dmb album is

a.) a return to the old sound with more Boyd
b.) his best work with dmb he also stated before these crowded streets was his previous favorite
c.) his favorite non released dmb song has never been heard by any fan
d.) that the album is almost complete

Biggest good news for DMB fans in a decade. Until proven otherwise, I'm going to assume that dmb's best album is being mastered by steve lillywhite.

dmb has risen

dmbREJOICEsl
04-08-2012, 12:27 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/sillywhite

Tonight Steve Lillywhite is on the record as saying the forthcoming dmb album is

a.) a return to the old sound with more Boyd
b.) his best work with dmb he also stated before these crowded streets was his previous favorite
c.) his favorite non released dmb song has never been heard by any fan
d.) that the album is almost complete

Biggest good news for DMB fans in a decade. Until proven otherwise, I'm going to assume that dmb's best album is being mastered by steve lillywhite.

dmb has risen

Perhaps Mr. Lillywhite's B.A.C. has risen instead.

canes101190
04-08-2012, 12:30 AM
Your band is back.

dmbREJOICEsl
04-08-2012, 12:32 AM
Your band is back.

Our band is back*

rickyh24
04-08-2012, 12:34 AM
He is not going to come out and say this is his 4th best effort with the band. Hopefully he is right though.

aggiekjw
04-08-2012, 12:35 AM
Perhaps Mr. Lillywhite's B.A.C. has risen instead.

He's sober.. has been since BTCS

aggiekjw
04-08-2012, 12:36 AM
He is not going to come out and say this is his 4th best effort with the band. Hopefully he is right though.

meh... he doesn't have to do any of this. he's getting paid no matter what. he's obviously a dmb fan and stoked for what he has done with them.

ExistenceNow
04-08-2012, 12:37 AM
He is not going to come out and say this is his 4th best effort with the band. Hopefully he is right though.


This. For fuck's sake.


How good anyone associated with the album says it is at this point is absolutely irrelevant.

dmbREJOICEsl
04-08-2012, 12:38 AM
He's sober.. has been since BTCS

Until tonight.

aggiekjw
04-08-2012, 12:39 AM
This. For fuck's sake.


How good anyone associated with the album says it is at this point is absolutely irrelevant.

haha.. irrelevant? steve lillywhite is one of the greatest producers of all time. his opinion on music and quality is highly relevant. he doesn't fuck around, for fuck's sake.. tsip

monkeyman68
04-08-2012, 12:40 AM
He is not going to come out and say this is his 4th best effort with the band. Hopefully he is right though.

meh... he doesn't have to do any of this. he's getting paid no matter what. he's obviously a dmb fan and stoked for what he has done with them.

:lol

"I think the band made a heck of a record but I like the older ones a bit better myself"

:rolleyes

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 12:40 AM
"eh its ok like maybe fifth best I dunno fuck it" -- Steve Lillywhite

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 12:41 AM
How good anyone associated with the album says it is at this point is absolutely irrelevant.

:thumbsup

haha.. irrelevant? steve lillywhite is one of the greatest producers of all time. his opinion on music and quality is highly relevant. he doesn't fuck around, for fuck's sake.. tsip

hahahaha

canes101190
04-08-2012, 12:44 AM
My reaction to this thread: http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1046750/tigerkick.gif

ExistenceNow
04-08-2012, 12:46 AM
haha.. irrelevant? steve lillywhite is one of the greatest producers of all time. his opinion on music and quality is highly relevant. he doesn't fuck around, for fuck's sake.. tsip


His opinion on music and quality of stuff he didn't personally work on is absolutely relevant. His opinion on his own work, not so much.


Personally, I think the post I just wrote is one of the greatest posts in the history of Ants.

aggiekjw
04-08-2012, 12:46 AM
"eh its ok like maybe fifth best I dunno fuck it" -- Steve Lillywhite

this wasn't some interview where he was forced to answer. this is a private twitter he chose to answer... he fielded teh question and answered it... I would agree with you if this was on some dmb website or an interview in rolling stones or something..

ExistenceNow
04-08-2012, 12:46 AM
My reaction to this thread: http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1046750/tigerkick.gif


:lol :lol

aggiekjw
04-08-2012, 12:49 AM
His opinion on music and quality of stuff he didn't personally work on is absolutely relevant. His opinion on his own work, not so much.


Personally, I think the post I just wrote is one of the greatest posts in the history of Ants.

that's ridiculous. again, this was a private thing he chose to answer.. every song steve lillywhite ever made with dmb is fucking outstanding music.. put on warehouse from uttad.. lillywhite knows music.. if he says it's good, it's fucking good.. how could you think otherwise?

rickyh24
04-08-2012, 12:49 AM
this wasn't some interview where he was forced to answer. this is a private twitter he chose to answer... he fielded teh question and answered it... I would agree with you if this was on some dmb website or an interview in rolling stones or something..

Come on man. Private twitter? :lol

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 12:50 AM
this wasn't some interview where he was forced to answer. this is a private twitter he chose to answer... he fielded teh question and answered it... I would agree with you if this was on some dmb website or an interview in rolling stones or something..
twitter is a public forum

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 12:52 AM
Guys steve lillywhite is relaying me a secret message let's see what it is: "I OWN MY WORK OWNS EVERYTHINHG OWNS DONT TELL ANYONE THO LATER DUDE"

ExistenceNow
04-08-2012, 12:52 AM
that's ridiculous. again, this was a private thing he chose to answer.. every song steve lillywhite ever made with dmb is fucking outstanding music.. put on warehouse from uttad.. lillywhite knows music.. if he says it's good, it's fucking good.. how could you think otherwise?

Steve produced a Blue October record. Think he said that one sucked?


Probably not. But it did. Bad.

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 12:53 AM
guy working on a project says project he's working on is Totes Rad



Wow!!!!!!!! It must be true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

aggiekjw
04-08-2012, 12:55 AM
Come on man. Private twitter? :lol

yes, steve lillywhite's twitter is a private account. he does not have to answer anything on it. If a reporter ask you "is this their best album?" you are forced to answer because the question is public.

You people are ridiculous. what happened tonight is exactly what everyone on ants has wanted to see for 10 years.. why be debbie downer about it..

i've always thought that steve lillywhite made dmb.. I think his ideas on arrangements are central to the genius of their live music.. If dmb would not have produced their 2nd and 3rd albums with lillywhite, I don't think any of us would be here..

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 12:56 AM
yes, steve lillywhite's twitter is a private account. he does not have to answer anything on it. If a reporter ask you "is this their best album?" you are forced to answer because the question is public.

You people are ridiculous. what happened tonight is exactly what everyone on ants has wanted to see for 10 years.. why be debbie downer about it..

i've always thought that steve lillywhite made dmb.. I think his ideas on arrangements are central to the genius of their live music.. If dmb would not have produced their 2nd and 3rd albums with lillywhite, I don't think any of us would be here..

lmao look at this post

aggiekjw
04-08-2012, 12:59 AM
Steve produced a Blue October record. Think he said that one sucked?


Probably not. But it did. Bad.

terrible argument. he produced one of their records. steve lillywhite produced three (4) albums with dmb that sold millions of records, won a grammy, and started the greatest live band in the history of the united states.

steve lillywhite knows dmb better than anyone..

rickyh24
04-08-2012, 01:00 AM
Classic dmbc going on.

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 01:00 AM
don't stop

aggiekjw
04-08-2012, 01:00 AM
lmao look at this post

you're an idiot.. you have a picture of philip phillips and posted 33000 times on a dmb fan site..

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 01:01 AM
you're an idiot.. you have a picture of philip phillips and posted 33000 times on a dmb fan site..

Damn owned

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 01:03 AM
ricky quick get out before someone says your post count at you

DIDriveOut2SPAC
04-08-2012, 01:04 AM
Blue Octobers album was better then Can't Stop will probably be.

RiotAct
04-08-2012, 01:05 AM
Biggest good news?

aggiekjw
04-08-2012, 01:08 AM
Damn owned

That's roughly 6000 posts for every show you've attended.

aggiekjw
04-08-2012, 01:09 AM
Biggest good news?

biggest news was leroi passing..

canes101190
04-08-2012, 01:10 AM
Happy 400th.

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 01:11 AM
That's roughly 6000 posts for every show you've attended.

Yes tell me more about the number of Internet posts I've made for some reason

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 01:12 AM
canes you have 30,728 posts. If you make another post you will have 30,729 posts.

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 01:12 AM
If you make another post after 30,729 you will have 30,730 posts.

aggiekjw
04-08-2012, 01:14 AM
canes you have 30,728 posts. If you make another post you will have 30,729 posts.

You really just seem like an arrogant fuck that I probably wouldn't care to speak to.. you obviously think highly of your opinion to express it 33K times.. get off your high horse of trying to act like you have the ability to discredit steve lillywhite, a grammy award winning producer of some of the most loved music in america.... dmb and others

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 01:15 AM
If you make 347 more posts after that you will have 30,077 posts

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 01:15 AM
aggiekjw you have 400 bad posts

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 01:16 AM
If you make another bad post you will have 401 bad posts.

rickyh24
04-08-2012, 01:18 AM
Why do people crumble around here when people look at this band objectively?

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 01:20 AM
Why do people crumble around here when people look at this band objectively?

Forget it Ricky. It's DMBc.

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 01:20 AM
Chinatown reference I win the thread

gakm7
04-08-2012, 01:21 AM
This thread is fucked
The new album will be fucked, sooo
This band is fucked

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 01:23 AM
hahaha what math are you using


edit: responding to deleted posts owns

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 01:24 AM
edit: nvm I guess?

aggiekjw
04-08-2012, 01:29 AM
edit: nvm I guess?

I'm not as familiar with the editing posts.. I meant minutes.. you post every .008 minutes of your life.. you're a tool.. go to some more shows

monkeyman68
04-08-2012, 01:46 AM
Classic dmbc going on.

Lillywhite never lies

I'm not as familiar with the editing posts.. I meant minutes.. you post every .008 minutes of your life.. you're a tool.. go to some more shows

I just bought tickets to the entire tour since Lillywhite said this new music is the band's best music ever. Thanks OP!

Quadrophenia92
04-08-2012, 01:59 AM
Lillywhite is probably reading this thread with a giant smirk on his face :lol

TwoStep2888
04-08-2012, 02:12 AM
I'm not as familiar with the editing posts.. I meant minutes.. you post every .008 minutes of your life.. you're a tool.. go to some more shows

I prefer good music sorry

bartender_man
04-08-2012, 02:34 AM
This. For fuck's sake.


How good anyone associated with the album says it is at this point is absolutely irrelevant.


Exactly. An example being- when ED came out- Dave said it's the best album they've ever done. Same thing happened with SU, and again with wiskey. It means nothing

thehammer316
04-08-2012, 02:43 AM
What in the shit happened in here? Tiger kicked his club...someone said post count....someone sucked Lillywhite's balls.

Alright, another normal night on Ants.

canes101190
04-08-2012, 02:46 AM
http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1032784/hershiser.png

thehammer316
04-08-2012, 02:48 AM
Is that what OP looks like after taking a belt of goop from Lillywhite?

:lol

kittensXLI
04-08-2012, 03:14 AM
FACT: This album will be the best since 1998.

Watch me be right.

Bruceman
04-08-2012, 03:20 AM
FACT: This album will be the best since 1998.

Watch me be right.


Your faith in the unknown is comforting, and I hope so much that you are indeed correct.

BotheDMBFan
04-08-2012, 03:24 AM
Lillywhite is a toolbag, who is not in the top 3 producers for U2. He's worse than a guy that goes by Flood.

bartender_man
04-08-2012, 03:27 AM
FACT: This album will be the best since 1998.

Watch me be right.

Maybe since the Lillywhite sessions...

TheStone91
04-08-2012, 05:04 AM
FACT: This album will be the best since 1998.

Watch me be right.

Aronofsky is that you? Haha

JimC
04-08-2012, 05:28 PM
Especially after reading this thread, I may give this record a chance. Lawls.

lafleurjp
04-08-2012, 08:29 PM
i don't understand how the OP's analogy regarding twitter responses v. interview questions is lost on so many of you. in the prior, the man has absolutely no reason to post a response to a question some dip-shit following him on twitter asks... if he he elects to, it is completely gratuitous. Conversely, in an interview of any sort, there is a very obvious need for some sort of response to a question of the same nature. the argument "pshhhhhhhhh he's part of the process of course he's going to give it an awesome review" is considerably undermined when you consider the fact that he very obviously does not have to respond to twitter questions ever. In fact, he ignores dozens and dozens of questions a day. He has no obligation to answer, and is not thought any less of for dodging a question.

if SL is out there gratuitously offering amplified reviews of dmbs latest (incomplete i might add) work, it would seem to fly in the face of everything he's said in the past RE recording with DMB, his personal opinion on tLWS, and the closed-lip nature of the current session . In short, he would be fool.

I certainly don't mean to imply that b/c SL says the album is good, it's going to unequivocally be one thing or another, what i mean to say is it' unlikely, IMHO, that SL is running around stoking the flames of anticipation with shallow rhetoric regarding the quality of the forthcoming album. that. would. just. be. stupid.

vklugf
04-08-2012, 08:49 PM
i don't understand how the OP's analogy regarding twitter responses v. interview questions is lost on so many of you. in the prior, the man has absolutely no reason to post a response to a question some dip-shit following him on twitter asks... if he he elects to, it is completely gratuitous. Conversely, in an interview of any sort, there is a very obvious need for some sort of response to a question of the same nature. the argument "pshhhhhhhhh he's part of the process of course he's going to give it an awesome review" is considerably undermined when you consider the fact that he very obviously does not have to respond to twitter questions ever. In fact, he ignores dozens and dozens of questions a day. He has no obligation to answer, and is not thought any less of for dodging a question.

if SL is out there gratuitously offering amplified reviews of dmbs latest (incomplete i might add) work, it would seem to fly in the face of everything he's said in the past RE recording with DMB, his personal opinion on tLWS, and the closed-lip nature of the current session . In short, he would be fool.

I certainly don't mean to imply that b/c SL says the album is good, it's going to unequivocally be one thing or another, what i mean to say is it' unlikely, IMHO, that SL is running around stoking the flames of anticipation with shallow rhetoric regarding the quality of the forthcoming album. that. would. just. be. stupid.

You said it all. Thanks god there's still intelligence on DMbc.

thehoss
04-08-2012, 08:58 PM
man. this got ugly. a man can have an opinion. like we read newspapers for information, we do with it what we want. treat this the same.

EmJay
04-08-2012, 09:41 PM
i don't understand how the OP's analogy regarding twitter responses v. interview questions is lost on so many of you. in the prior, the man has absolutely no reason to post a response to a question some dip-shit following him on twitter asks... if he he elects to, it is completely gratuitous. Conversely, in an interview of any sort, there is a very obvious need for some sort of response to a question of the same nature. the argument "pshhhhhhhhh he's part of the process of course he's going to give it an awesome review" is considerably undermined when you consider the fact that he very obviously does not have to respond to twitter questions ever. In fact, he ignores dozens and dozens of questions a day. He has no obligation to answer, and is not thought any less of for dodging a question.

if SL is out there gratuitously offering amplified reviews of dmbs latest (incomplete i might add) work, it would seem to fly in the face of everything he's said in the past RE recording with DMB, his personal opinion on tLWS, and the closed-lip nature of the current session . In short, he would be fool.

I certainly don't mean to imply that b/c SL says the album is good, it's going to unequivocally be one thing or another, what i mean to say is it' unlikely, IMHO, that SL is running around stoking the flames of anticipation with shallow rhetoric regarding the quality of the forthcoming album. that. would. just. be. stupid.

I see what you are saying...but it is hard to be totally objective when it is your album. Look, everyone thinks each one of their kids is "the cutest" and it is rare for a musician, producer, actor, director, etc. to believe that their latest work is garbage.

Not saying that this album won't be good, just that i it hard to be fired up by a band member or a producer believing it is good.

dmb2632
04-08-2012, 10:01 PM
I see what you are saying...but it is hard to be totally objective when it is your album. Look, everyone thinks each one of their kids is "the cutest" and it is rare for a musician, producer, actor, director, etc. to believe that their latest work is garbage.

Not saying that this album won't be good, just that i it hard to be fired up by a band member or a producer believing it is good.

Exactly -- I mean Carter even once said that Old Dirt Hill was his favorite song, simply because it was the song they were currently working on.

lafleurjp
04-08-2012, 10:04 PM
I see what you are saying...but it is hard to be totally objective when it is your album. Look, everyone thinks each one of their kids is "the cutest" and it is rare for a musician, producer, actor, director, etc. to believe that their latest work is garbage.

Not saying that this album won't be good, just that i it hard to be fired up by a band member or a producer believing it is good.

yeah. fair enough. as a basic tenet, and in general, it's hard to be completely objective about something you've invested yourself into... especially something as subjective as art. the art is a projection of yourself - and no one wants to be critical of themselves. i get it.

that said, my point (and i presume what the OP is getting at) is that SL going out of his way to talk the album up is a good sign. For all the reasons we all know regarding the history of SL with this band - i just don't see him going out of his way to incite such anticipation with the base - the very demographic most intrigued by lillywhite's return to the band in the first place.

if things were a train wreck in the studio, Lillywhite would leave. If things were just "ok" in the studio, he wouldn't say anything at all. if anyone involved in this process is situated to be objective and understand what this band is capable of (see SL's critique of ED including the words 'diarrhea' and 'vomit') it is SL. If SL put his name on UTAD, Crash, and BTCS, thus endorsing their merit as legitimate products - each unique in their own right but undeniably DMB at the same time (very different than everything else they've done) than the fact that he believes this their best work, has to be a good sign.

then again, maybe i'm far to immersed in anticipation of this album and am giving lillywhite too much credit. who the hell knows.

BJisBA41
04-08-2012, 10:09 PM
Who cares? Did he mention anything about the status of OTAFAFDITM?

raustin1
04-08-2012, 10:10 PM
Now who wouldn't kill to hear Old Dirt Hill at a show. Everybody knows how strong the #2 hole traditionally is in DMB albums... WWYS, Two Step, Rapunzel, When The World Ends, Grey Street, Shake Me Like a Monkey. Maybe we haven't given ODH a fair shot at being a revolutionary song? Or maybe Stand Up was just terrible.....every league has to have a Pittsburgh Pirates

rickyh24
04-08-2012, 10:16 PM
Shake Me and ODH are both pretty horrible. Only tolerable in a D&T setting.

CrashTheStone41
04-08-2012, 10:18 PM
Maybe since the Lillywhite sessions...

Not an album so Kittens got you beat dog.

vaxarado
04-08-2012, 10:18 PM
Now who wouldn't kill to hear Old Dirt Hill at a show. Everybody knows how strong the #2 hole traditionally is in DMB albums... WWYS, Two Step, Rapunzel, When The World Ends, Grey Street, Shake Me Like a Monkey. Maybe we haven't given ODH a fair shot at being a revolutionary song? Or maybe Stand Up was just terrible.....every league has to have a Pittsburgh Pirates

:snot:snot:snot

seanpathickey
04-09-2012, 01:37 AM
yes, steve lillywhite's twitter is a private account. he does not have to answer anything on it. If a reporter ask you "is this their best album?" you are forced to answer because the question is public.

You people are ridiculous. what happened tonight is exactly what everyone on ants has wanted to see for 10 years.. why be debbie downer about it..

i've always thought that steve lillywhite made dmb.. I think his ideas on arrangements are central to the genius of their live music.. If dmb would not have produced their 2nd and 3rd albums with lillywhite, I don't think any of us would be here..

this is an absolute joke. give steve lilywhite credit for being a good producer but you pretty much just undermined the other members of this band.

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 01:47 AM
DMB was best before Steve Lillywhite, 1993 supremacy, Big League Chew forever

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 02:02 AM
i don't understand how the OP's analogy regarding twitter responses v. interview questions is lost on so many of you. in the prior, the man has absolutely no reason to post a response to a question some dip-shit following him on twitter asks... if he he elects to, it is completely gratuitous. Conversely, in an interview of any sort, there is a very obvious need for some sort of response to a question of the same nature. the argument "pshhhhhhhhh he's part of the process of course he's going to give it an awesome review" is considerably undermined when you consider the fact that he very obviously does not have to respond to twitter questions ever. In fact, he ignores dozens and dozens of questions a day. He has no obligation to answer, and is not thought any less of for dodging a question.

if SL is out there gratuitously offering amplified reviews of dmbs latest (incomplete i might add) work, it would seem to fly in the face of everything he's said in the past RE recording with DMB, his personal opinion on tLWS, and the closed-lip nature of the current session . In short, he would be fool.

I certainly don't mean to imply that b/c SL says the album is good, it's going to unequivocally be one thing or another, what i mean to say is it' unlikely, IMHO, that SL is running around stoking the flames of anticipation with shallow rhetoric regarding the quality of the forthcoming album. that. would. just. be. stupid.

You're not familiar w/ "media" or "the entertainment industry" or "twitter" are you

People promote awful terrible things literally all of the time, on twitter and everywhere, solicited or unsolicited. People get excited when they work on things, even if those things may later turn out to be shit. Look at Stand Up. It is impossible to analyze and evaluate the present accurately; Lillywhite and the Band saying a thing means Nothing At All.

Plus it's on twitter where people just Say Shit all the time w/ no rhyme or reason.

Also god damn it I'm arguing w/ DMBc

Just wait for the dumb thing to come out, nobody actually knows anything until then.

lafleurjp
04-09-2012, 08:26 AM
You're not familiar w/ "media" or "the entertainment industry" or "twitter" are you

People promote awful terrible things literally all of the time, on twitter and everywhere, solicited or unsolicited. People get excited when they work on things, even if those things may later turn out to be shit. Look at Stand Up. It is impossible to analyze and evaluate the present accurately; Lillywhite and the Band saying a thing means Nothing At All.

Plus it's on twitter where people just Say Shit all the time w/ no rhyme or reason.

Also god damn it I'm arguing w/ DMBc

Just wait for the dumb thing to come out, nobody actually knows anything until then.

you paint with far to wide a brush and you're conflating several components of the debate into one (all in an effort i might add to apparently advocate for simply "waiting for the dumb thing [new album] to come out" which begs the question, what the f are you doing on ants if this is your mentality??) Maybe reread the posts in this thread for a start....we're not discussing what the industry at large does on twitter. i cede your point - of course social media is used to push ridiculous garbage marketing all day to the masses. We're talking about steve lillywhite. maybe you've noticed we're not debating stefan's tidbits about the album, RR's, or anyone elses from the band. Those critiques obviously don't hold much weight - we all remember SU. We're talking bout SL. If you want to point to a quote from SL where he makes ridiculous preposterous representations about a product (specifically about DMB) that turn out to be patently unture, i will eat my hat. If not, be quiet. I'm not "familiar" with social media as you appear not to be "familiar" with reading. or context.

joshizzle3
04-09-2012, 08:29 AM
you paint with far to wide a brush and you're conflating several components of the debate into one (all in an effort i might add to apparently advocate for simply "waiting for the dumb thing [new album] to come out" which begs the question, what the f are you doing on ants if this is your mentality??) Maybe reread the posts in this thread for a start....we're not discussing what the industry at large does on twitter. i cede your point - of course social media is used to push ridiculous garbage marketing all day to the masses. We're talking about steve lillywhite. maybe you've noticed we're not debating stefan's tidbits about the album, RR's, or anyone elses from the band. Those critiques obviously don't hold much weight - we all remember SU. We're talking bout SL. If you want to point to a quote from SL where he makes ridiculous preposterous representations about a product (specifically about DMB) that turn out to be patently unture, i will eat my hat. If not, be quiet. I'm not "familiar" with social media as you appear not to be "familiar" with reading. or context.

lol u old?

lafleurjp
04-09-2012, 08:35 AM
lol u old?

ha. not too old. 30. but i can read. so i have that going for me. ;)

bluehorseshoe
04-09-2012, 08:41 AM
yes, steve lillywhite's twitter is a private account. he does not have to answer anything on it. If a reporter ask you "is this their best album?" you are forced to answer because the question is public.

You people are ridiculous. what happened tonight is exactly what everyone on ants has wanted to see for 10 years.. why be debbie downer about it..

i've always thought that steve lillywhite made dmb.. I think his ideas on arrangements are central to the genius of their live music.. If dmb would not have produced their 2nd and 3rd albums with lillywhite, I don't think any of us would be here..

:lol This press conference is over.

moosicmaniac
04-09-2012, 09:01 AM
listen, everybody. They always say that the upcoming record is their best one. Happened with Stand Up, happened with Big Whiskey. It's easy to get excited and I'm not saying you shouldn't, but... smallest grain of salt, people.

stoneje
04-09-2012, 09:39 AM
you paint with far to wide a brush and you're conflating several components of the debate into one (all in an effort i might add to apparently advocate for simply "waiting for the dumb thing [new album] to come out" which begs the question, what the f are you doing on ants if this is your mentality??) Maybe reread the posts in this thread for a start....we're not discussing what the industry at large does on twitter. i cede your point - of course social media is used to push ridiculous garbage marketing all day to the masses. We're talking about steve lillywhite. maybe you've noticed we're not debating stefan's tidbits about the album, RR's, or anyone elses from the band. Those critiques obviously don't hold much weight - we all remember SU. We're talking bout SL. If you want to point to a quote from SL where he makes ridiculous preposterous representations about a product (specifically about DMB) that turn out to be patently unture, i will eat my hat. If not, be quiet. I'm not "familiar" with social media as you appear not to be "familiar" with reading. or context.

The bolded are more than slightly out of place around here. You might replace them with words like "blololol" or "n00dz" or even "if not pm, if not" if you want your next post to get more traction. :thumbsup

clive bixby
04-09-2012, 09:41 AM
oh this thread

lafleurjp
04-09-2012, 09:50 AM
The bolded are more than slightly out of place around here. You might replace them with words like "blololol" or "n00dz" or even "if not pm, if not" if you want your next post to get more traction. :thumbsup

:lol. touche. better? problem is, i have no idea what things like "n00dz" means. i don't have the internet vernacular down.

vaxarado
04-09-2012, 09:56 AM
listen, everybody. They always say that the upcoming record is their best one. Happened with Stand Up, happened with Big Whiskey. It's easy to get excited and I'm not saying you shouldn't, but... smallest grain of salt, people.

Exactly. I have a lot of faith in Lillywhite and think it'll likely be a pretty damn good album but chill out people. Give it time. Everything is the best when its being produced (otherwise, why would you?).

cipron
04-09-2012, 10:10 AM
you're an idiot.. you have a picture of philip phillips and posted 33000 times on a dmb fan site..

hahahahahahahahahahaha :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

ericvol
04-09-2012, 10:11 AM
What in the world is C trying to say?

There is a unreleased son on the album that is never been heard before that is his favorite?

That is really confusing.

ericvol
04-09-2012, 10:19 AM
He said the album is coming along swimmingly...Sweet is on the album!

tub50328
04-09-2012, 11:01 AM
Look, buddy. I know a lot about the law and various other lawyerings. I'm well educated. Well versed. I know that situations like this, new albums wise, they're very complex.

wizkid983
04-09-2012, 11:14 AM
Look, buddy. I know a lot about the law and various other lawyerings. I'm well educated. Well versed. I know that situations like this, new albums wise, they're very complex.

Wait, are you a lawyer? Oh, and you're from Philadelphia!
ARE YOU TOM HANKS?!

TMoore4075
04-09-2012, 11:32 AM
i don't understand how the OP's analogy regarding twitter responses v. interview questions is lost on so many of you. in the prior, the man has absolutely no reason to post a response to a question some dip-shit following him on twitter asks... if he he elects to, it is completely gratuitous. Conversely, in an interview of any sort, there is a very obvious need for some sort of response to a question of the same nature. the argument "pshhhhhhhhh he's part of the process of course he's going to give it an awesome review" is considerably undermined when you consider the fact that he very obviously does not have to respond to twitter questions ever. In fact, he ignores dozens and dozens of questions a day. He has no obligation to answer, and is not thought any less of for dodging a question.

if SL is out there gratuitously offering amplified reviews of dmbs latest (incomplete i might add) work, it would seem to fly in the face of everything he's said in the past RE recording with DMB, his personal opinion on tLWS, and the closed-lip nature of the current session . In short, he would be fool.

I certainly don't mean to imply that b/c SL says the album is good, it's going to unequivocally be one thing or another, what i mean to say is it' unlikely, IMHO, that SL is running around stoking the flames of anticipation with shallow rhetoric regarding the quality of the forthcoming album. that. would. just. be. stupid.

Just saying this is right on. Lillywhite even did respond to one person a while back when it was first announced he was working with DMB and he was saying Big 4 or whatever someone asked him "of course you are gonna say this even if it sucked." And he said I wouldn't say anything if I didn't like it.

Yes people/groups promote crap on twitter but Lillywhite is a guy who's been honest about stuff before. Called Everyday and Stand Up pieces of shit basically and said he didn't like the Lillywhite Sessions that got leaked because they weren't finished.

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 11:54 AM
You're not familiar w/ "media" or "the entertainment industry" or "twitter" are you

People promote awful terrible things literally all of the time, on twitter and everywhere, solicited or unsolicited. People get excited when they work on things, even if those things may later turn out to be shit. Look at Stand Up. It is impossible to analyze and evaluate the present accurately; Lillywhite and the Band saying a thing means Nothing At All.

Plus it's on twitter where people just Say Shit all the time w/ no rhyme or reason.

Also god damn it I'm arguing w/ DMBc

Just wait for the dumb thing to come out, nobody actually knows anything until then.

god you are a fucking tool bag. you really are a negative piece of shit that's been to 6 dmb shows and posted 33K times on the boards. In short, you have no life, and spend it being negative on a dmb fan site. you even come on here to discuss television shows that have nothing to do with dmb. seriously, why would anyone respect your opinion? You review television shows regularly on a dmb fan site, but call the bands new album "stupid" and say you don't want to see dmb becuase you only like "good music"... just shut the fuck up and go review some piece of shit american television show..

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 12:03 PM
You're not familiar w/ "media" or "the entertainment industry" or "twitter" are you

People promote awful terrible things literally all of the time, on twitter and everywhere, solicited or unsolicited. People get excited when they work on things, even if those things may later turn out to be shit. Look at Stand Up. It is impossible to analyze and evaluate the present accurately; Lillywhite and the Band saying a thing means Nothing At All.

Plus it's on twitter where people just Say Shit all the time w/ no rhyme or reason.

Also god damn it I'm arguing w/ DMBc

Just wait for the dumb thing to come out, nobody actually knows anything until then.

Also, I am not familiar with twitter.. I don't even have a twitter account. I do however know that steve lillywhite gets boat loads of twitter messages and chooses to respond to certain ones. therefore, unlike other bands blindly promoting their album, steve lillhywhite, in my opinion, appears to be a producer and fan that is excited about what they accomplished in teh studio. furthermore, his hype of the album is only going to be viewed by at most 25K dmb fans, likely far less. So his "hype" as you describe will have no measurable impact on sales, fan satisfaction, or anything. He even acknowledges this on his twitter account by saying "I hope they have more fans than follow me". The previous hype that everyone is citing was viewed by anyone that was signed up for dmb emails. Everyone that has ever bought a dmb ticket got e-mails about big whiskey and stand up album sites that were followed by 100K's of people. Steve Lillywhite is speaking to a very small group of people on his twitter account, and he knows it. It isn't hype... It's just a producer working on new DMB in Seattle that is excited. so go review another episode of your favorite stupid fucking tv show, like the ones where aliens bomb other aliens and steal precious prizes or whatever other fantasy land shows you like to cover.. you live in the fantasy world of online messages boards and are a fucking loser..

morecornbread!!
04-09-2012, 12:05 PM
god you are a fucking tool bag. you really are a negative piece of shit that's been to 6 dmb shows and posted 33K times on the boards. In short, you have no life, and spend it being negative on a dmb fan site. you even come on here to discuss television shows that have nothing to do with dmb. seriously, why would anyone respect your opinion? You review television shows regularly on a dmb fan site, but call the bands new album "stupid" and say you don't want to see dmb becuase you only like "good music"... just shut the fuck up and go review some piece of shit american television show..

He averages 11 posts a day, which isn't that bad. Chill out. No reason to get mad here man. "eat drink and be merry". I find it creepy that you care enough about him to read his television reviews on a regular basis on a DMB fan site.

JCpatriot66
04-09-2012, 12:10 PM
Jesus, what the hell happened in here?

BruceW
04-09-2012, 12:13 PM
hahaha this is just...wow

DMBs coming out with a new album...hell fucking yes!

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 12:15 PM
He averages 11 posts a day, which isn't that bad. Chill out. No reason to get mad here man. "eat drink and be merry". I find it creepy that you care enough about him to read his television reviews on a regular basis on a DMB fan site.

I just can't stand when someone makes a decent thread and it gets trolled by someone. I was trying to inform casual viewers of the site about positive news on steve lillywhite's twitter and this clown shows up and becomes professor of band hype and twitter behavior..

MinaretMarching
04-09-2012, 12:17 PM
Look, buddy. I know a lot about the law and various other lawyerings. I'm well educated. Well versed. I know that situations like this, new albums wise, they're very complex.

If anyone wants to crack Temple University's email, this guy's username is his Temple email. Not that it matters, I'm sure he would have given it out if asked hahaha. I just thought it funny having seen this and gone there. Temple Law is nothing to mess with. :trap

BotheDMBFan
04-09-2012, 12:22 PM
hahaha this is just...wow

DMBs coming out with a new album...hell fucking yes!

OG DMB IS COMING OUT WITH the...BEST ALBUM OF THEIR CAREER (or ever).


Dumb ass.

BruceW
04-09-2012, 12:28 PM
OG DMB IS COMING OUT WITH the...BEST ALBUM OF THEIR CAREER (or ever).


Dumb ass.

haha my apologies..

tub50328
04-09-2012, 12:29 PM
If anyone wants to crack Temple University's email, this guy's username is his Temple email. Not that it matters, I'm sure he would have given it out if asked hahaha. I just thought it funny having seen this and gone there. Temple Law is nothing to mess with. :trap

Haha I'll only be using this email for another month or so until graduation. I wonder how many ants emails I'll get now... T for Temple U! What year did you graduate?

BotheDMBFan
04-09-2012, 12:31 PM
Haha I'll only be using this email for another month or so until graduation. I wonder how many ants emails I'll get now... T for Temple U! What year did you graduate?

Do you prefer white dicks, black dicks, hispanic dicks, or midget dicks?

I ask because email wise, you are gunna get SO MANY! You might as well state your preference.

tub50328
04-09-2012, 12:40 PM
Do you prefer white dicks, black dicks, hispanic dicks, or midget dicks?

I ask because email wise, you are gunna get SO MANY! You might as well state your preference.

Asian. Please.

hmich176
04-09-2012, 12:53 PM
OP. What do you expect Lillywhite to say?

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 01:22 PM
OP. What do you expect Lillywhite to say?

can you not read? I would expect Lillywhite to not answer the question specifically asking if the album was as good as the big 3. He could have answered one of the other many questions he has on his twitter.. He also could simply say, it's a "great album" or "I had a blast recording an awesome album" or "dmb did an outstanding job on the album"

There are literally 10 000 positive things he could say besides "This album is better than all the other albums I did with dmb, including btcs"

Is that clear enough for you?

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 01:49 PM
god you are a fucking tool bag. you really are a negative piece of shit that's been to 6 dmb shows and posted 33K times on the boards. In short, you have no life, and spend it being negative on a dmb fan site. you even come on here to discuss television shows that have nothing to do with dmb. seriously, why would anyone respect your opinion? You review television shows regularly on a dmb fan site, but call the bands new album "stupid" and say you don't want to see dmb becuase you only like "good music"... just shut the fuck up and go review some piece of shit american television show..

Also, I am not familiar with twitter.. I don't even have a twitter account. I do however know that steve lillywhite gets boat loads of twitter messages and chooses to respond to certain ones. therefore, unlike other bands blindly promoting their album, steve lillhywhite, in my opinion, appears to be a producer and fan that is excited about what they accomplished in teh studio. furthermore, his hype of the album is only going to be viewed by at most 25K dmb fans, likely far less. So his "hype" as you describe will have no measurable impact on sales, fan satisfaction, or anything. He even acknowledges this on his twitter account by saying "I hope they have more fans than follow me". The previous hype that everyone is citing was viewed by anyone that was signed up for dmb emails. Everyone that has ever bought a dmb ticket got e-mails about big whiskey and stand up album sites that were followed by 100K's of people. Steve Lillywhite is speaking to a very small group of people on his twitter account, and he knows it. It isn't hype... It's just a producer working on new DMB in Seattle that is excited. so go review another episode of your favorite stupid fucking tv show, like the ones where aliens bomb other aliens and steal precious prizes or whatever other fantasy land shows you like to cover.. you live in the fantasy world of online messages boards and are a fucking loser..

can you not read? I would expect Lillywhite to not answer the question specifically asking if the album was as good as the big 3. He could have answered one of the other many questions he has on his twitter.. He also could simply say, it's a "great album" or "I had a blast recording an awesome album" or "dmb did an outstanding job on the album"

There are literally 10 000 positive things he could say besides "This album is better than all the other albums I did with dmb, including btcs"

Is that clear enough for you?

hahahahaha

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 01:49 PM
This Thread Owns

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 01:57 PM
I updated my profiel I've been to 32,492 shows now

ShotgunDMB
04-09-2012, 02:05 PM
Straight to da clubs.

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 02:09 PM
Shotz + Stepz up in here

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 02:34 PM
hahahahaha

If you want a real laugh, just proceed to http://twitter.com/#!/oshuaj

you are such a clown. If I met you at a dmb show I'd probably throw a beer in your face.. but since you never go, I'm thankful I won't have to do that..

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 02:42 PM
lmao


Settle down dude

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 02:44 PM
If I met you IRL (In Real Life) I would make you a sandwich A KNUCKLE SANDWHICH YOU CAD

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 02:45 PM
If I saw you at Wal-Mart I'd steal from your cart + cut in front of you so hard god dang

Flipping Willie
04-09-2012, 02:45 PM
Lillywhite is a toolbag, who is not in the top 3 producers for U2. He's worse than a guy that goes by Flood.

Who cares, u2 sucks and is undoubtedly the most overrated band of all time.

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 02:46 PM
If we were a middle-aged married couple I'd probably divorce you that's what I'd do

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 02:48 PM
If you were Thomas Jefferson and I was John Adams I would write very critically of you regarding the role of the federal government and the strength of our national military, we would later die on the same day July 4 1826

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 02:49 PM
If we were on an Internet forum I'd get rly rly mad for no reason and make long bad posts a lot I would

Flipping Willie
04-09-2012, 02:53 PM
Here's the breakdown as I see it.

-This will be the best produced album since BTCS
-I hope the songwriting is better than Everyday, Stand Up, and BW. Though I wouldn't expect it to be on par with the big 4.
-I have a gut feeling that we'll get somewhere in the realm of 50% (Shotgun, SUAD, etc.) unreleased material and 50% new stuff.
-Even though this band seems to feed off the producers input quite a bit in the end it's all dependent on the song quality on the album which Lillywhite (even though I like him) will have very little to do with. and Judging by the majority of Dave's recent songwriting my expectation is better then the most recent 3 but not as good as the big 4. Somewhere in the middle.

Arby
04-09-2012, 02:53 PM
If we were on an Internet forum I'd get rly rly mad for no reason and make long bad posts a lot I would


You have 10 of the last 13 posts in the thread, brah.

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 02:54 PM
If you were someplace and I was someone I'd do a thing you don't want that

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 02:54 PM
You have 10 of the last 13 posts in the thread, brah.

Thread Domination

Flipping Willie
04-09-2012, 02:57 PM
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TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 02:58 PM
I'm sad that Ackbar is now only the 2nd biggest emoticon

lafleurjp
04-09-2012, 03:00 PM
I updated my profiel I've been to 32,492 shows now

i've enjoyed our bitch session in this thread.... OP is right but holy crap this made me laugh. you're an avid fan.

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 03:12 PM
lmao


Settle down dude

If I met you IRL (In Real Life) I would make you a sandwich A KNUCKLE SANDWHICH YOU CAD

If I saw you at Wal-Mart I'd steal from your cart + cut in front of you so hard god dang

If we were a middle-aged married couple I'd probably divorce you that's what I'd do

If we were on an Internet forum I'd get rly rly mad for no reason and make long bad posts a lot I would


seriously man. You are incredibly annoying. just shut your god damn mouth.

cry_minarets458
04-09-2012, 03:31 PM
:lol twitter is a private forum where he doesn't have to field questions? he doesn't have to answer any question he doesn't want to in an interview either. each other producer has said (insert album name here) is their best work yet, etc, etc. if this album sucks, i can't wait to see what everyone says...a producer can only do so much if the band/Dave is fucking lazy.

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 03:34 PM
:lol twitter is a private forum where he doesn't have to field questions? he doesn't have to answer any question he doesn't want to in an interview either. each other producer has said (insert album name here) is their best work yet, etc, etc. if this album sucks, i can't wait to see what everyone says...a producer can only do so much if the band/Dave is fucking lazy.

You're an idiot. When was the last time you saw an artist interviewed about an album and they said "I'm not going to answer that question"? When was the last time someone famous didn't answer a question on twitter.

Calling DMB lazy is like calling Jesus non influential. Some of the hardest working people I've ever seen.

Go off to another thread with phillips lover boy twostep8888 and talk about how everyone on twitter answers every question ever asked..

efraser77
04-09-2012, 03:41 PM
You're an idiot. When was the last time you saw an artist interviewed about an album and they said "I'm not going to answer that question"? When was the last time someone famous didn't answer a question on twitter.

Calling DMB lazy is like calling Jesus non influential. Some of the hardest working people I've ever seen.

Go off to another thread with phillips lover boy twostep8888 and talk about how everyone on twitter answers every question ever asked..

I would guess that happens several time a second.

Jake
04-09-2012, 03:44 PM
You're an idiot. When was the last time you saw an artist interviewed about an album and they said "I'm not going to answer that question"? When was the last time someone famous didn't answer a question on twitter.

Calling DMB lazy is like calling Jesus non influential. Some of the hardest working people I've ever seen.

Go off to another thread with phillips lover boy twostep8888 and talk about how everyone on twitter answers every question ever asked..

You seem pretty :rattle

Need a breather?

dduncan6er
04-09-2012, 03:47 PM
I fully agree OP. This album should blow BTCS out I'd the water. I trust lilywhite.

cry_minarets458
04-09-2012, 03:57 PM
You're an idiot. When was the last time you saw an artist interviewed about an album and they said "I'm not going to answer that question"? When was the last time someone famous didn't answer a question on twitter.

Calling DMB lazy is like calling Jesus non influential. Some of the hardest working people I've ever seen.

Go off to another thread with phillips lover boy twostep8888 and talk about how everyone on twitter answers every question ever asked..
:lol
Wow, calm down. All I was saying was it's possible. The fact that people read so much into Twitter is hysterical. DMB has been the lazy the past few years when it comes to studio work - sorry for not clarifying. And, to the bolded, :lol cause I totally said that. Whatever, bro, enjoy DMBc.

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 04:01 PM
You seem pretty :rattle

Need a breather?

No, I can't just can't stand the idiots that troll boards and make nonsensical arguments like have been made in this thread. I don't understand how any fan of this band that has listened to anything steve lillywhite produced could possibly be at odds with his twitter comments. It is a fact that he did not have to make such strong comments. As I've said before, he could have responded to the most provocative twitter question regarding if the album was better than the big 3 with, "It's hard to say, but the album is great", or "I'll just tell you the album is awesome", or any number of other answers that would have still been viewed as postive.

People like twostep2888 go around here just trying to piss people off with their arrogant line of reasoning that implies they know what they're talking about and dismiss other folks ideas with stupid fucking comments. I will continue to attack them until they stop

Jake
04-09-2012, 04:04 PM
No, I can't just can't stand the idiots that troll boards and make nonsensical arguments like have been made in this thread. I don't understand how any fan of this band that has listened to anything steve lillywhite produced could possibly be at odds with his twitter comments. It is a fact that he did not have to make such strong comments. As I've said before, he could have responded to the most provocative twitter question regarding if the album was better than the big 3 with, "It's hard to say, but the album is great", or "I'll just tell you the album is awesome", or any number of other answers that would have still been viewed as postive.

People like twostep2888 go around here just trying to piss people off with their arrogant line of reasoning that implies they know what they're talking about and dismiss other folks ideas with stupid fucking comments. I will continue to attack them until they stop

Carter said in an interview with 60 Minutes II that Everyday was their best album.



Sounds like anyone doubting Lillywhite is being a realist based on past performance. That's not trolling

seekupig
04-09-2012, 04:07 PM
People like twostep2888 go around here just trying to piss people off with their arrogant line of reasoning that implies they know what they're talking about and dismiss other folks ideas with stupid fucking comments. I will continue to attack them until they stop

how many virgins will this earn you in paradise?

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 04:08 PM
Carter said in an interview with 60 Minutes II that Everyday was their best album.



Sounds like anyone doubting Lillywhite is being a realist based on past performance. That's not trolling

that's a ridicuous line of logic. Carter was on national television trying to sell records and make a positive impression on not only loyal dmb fans but the entire 60 minutes audience (which is huge). In contrast, Steve Lillywhite was making comments on a twitter account to a very dedicated group of fans. Had these comments been made in a public arena (like television or magazine articles) in response to a direct question from a reporter performing an interview, I would agree with you. I don't understand how anyone cannot understand that reasoning.

daveMathews48
04-09-2012, 04:08 PM
His opinion on music and quality of stuff he didn't personally work on is absolutely relevant. His opinion on his own work, not so much.


Personally, I think the post I just wrote is one of the greatest posts in the history of Ants.

I don't know. If you've ever listened to his radio show he has a segment called Lillywhite's Loser's or something like that where he talks very bluntly about crappy albums he produced.

seekupig
04-09-2012, 04:10 PM
I don't know. If you've ever listened to his radio show he has a segment called Lillywhite's Loser's or something like that where he talks very bluntly about crappy albums he produced.

after the fact. doubt he'd bash something before it's release. that's just bad business.

Jake
04-09-2012, 04:10 PM
that's a ridicuous line of logic. Carter was on national television trying to sell records and make a positive impression on not only loyal dmb fans but the entire 60 minutes audience (which is huge). In contrast, Steve Lillywhite was making comments on a twitter account to a very dedicated group of fans. Had these comments been made in a public arena (like television or magazine articles) in response to a direct question from a reporter performing an interview, I would agree with you. I don't understand how anyone cannot understand that reasoning.

Good enough for me!


Album will be awesome because Lillywhite tweeted it so. Working up the front page story now.

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 04:12 PM
Good enough for me!


Album will be awesome because Lillywhite tweeted it so. Working up the front page story now.

that's swell Jake. I'd much rather read front page stories about positive lillywhite news than stupid phillip phillips updates. But please, fill us in on how well an american idol superstar is doing. that's what we all want to see.

ExistenceNow
04-09-2012, 04:14 PM
I don't know. If you've ever listened to his radio show he has a segment called Lillywhite's Loser's or something like that where he talks very bluntly about crappy albums he produced.

See below.

after the fact. doubt he'd bash something before it's release. that's just bad business.

This.

Jake
04-09-2012, 04:14 PM
that's swell Jake. I'd much rather read front page stories about positive lillywhite news than stupid phillip phillips updates. But please, fill us in on how well an american idol superstar is doing. that's what we all want to see.

Maybe you haven't heard, but Stefan is playing with PP. He said it on Twitter & we all know Twitter don't lie.

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 04:15 PM
after the fact. doubt he'd bash something before it's release. that's just bad business.

I love these people on ants when you destroy their line of reasoning and they dismiss it. It's awesome. It's awesome

ExistenceNow
04-09-2012, 04:15 PM
Good enough for me!


Album will be awesome because Lillywhite tweeted it so. Working up the front page story now.


You can't lie on twitter. YOU JUST CAN'T!

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 04:17 PM
Maybe you haven't heard, but Stefan is playing with PP. He said it on Twitter & we all know Twitter don't lie.

Can we get some howling trolls instead of wolfs for the antsmarching.org shirts this year. Like, a troll vomiting laughing smiley faces. that describes this site best.. especially the front page when phillip phillips news is coming. I still haven't figured out if you're being sarcastic by posting about him? are you?

Drumlax15
04-09-2012, 04:18 PM
You can't lie on twitter. YOU JUST CAN'T!

It takes more than a 140 characters to lie.

hmich176
04-09-2012, 04:20 PM
that's a ridicuous line of logic. Carter was on national television trying to sell records and make a positive impression on not only loyal dmb fans but the entire 60 minutes audience (which is huge). In contrast, Steve Lillywhite was making comments on a twitter account to a very dedicated group of fans. Had these comments been made in a public arena (like television or magazine articles) in response to a direct question from a reporter performing an interview, I would agree with you. I don't understand how anyone cannot understand that reasoning.

Twitter is in the public arena. How do you not understand this?

Jake
04-09-2012, 04:21 PM
Can we get some howling trolls instead of wolfs for the antsmarching.org shirts this year. Like, a troll vomiting laughing smiley faces. that describes this site best.. especially the front page when phillip phillips news is coming. I still haven't figured out if you're being sarcastic by posting about him? are you?

:rattle


It's clear. A rattlesnake would point it out.

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 04:22 PM
You can't lie on twitter. YOU JUST CAN'T!

In short, what's happened on this site regarding steve lillywhite in the past 10 years.

1.) Will he ever produce with the band again? Ants answer "No way, him and dave had a fist fight and could never speak again"

2.) Steve Lillywhite is the best producer dmb's ever had

3.) What's going on steve lillywhites radio show? will he play machead? oh it's so awesome how lillywhite talks so good about dmb

4.) I can't believe steve lillywhite is going to the studio with dmb. no way they make an album. they're just testing the waters

5.) steve lillywhite is being dishonest on twitter..

this is antsmarching.org.. ignorance is celebrated.

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 04:23 PM
:rattle


It's clear. A rattlesnake would point it out.

I think your inclusion of the crybaby symbol is almost as stupid as your howling wolf t shirts and/or PP coverage. You clearly like childish things.

hmich176
04-09-2012, 04:23 PM
this is antsmarching.org.. ignorance is celebrated.
You said you don't even belong to Twitter, so what do you really know about it? You're trolling yourself, buddy.

Jake
04-09-2012, 04:24 PM
The city of New Haven is embarrassed. Before the state & the entire Nutmeg industry do the same, please, take a breath.

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 04:24 PM
Twitter is in the public arena. How do you not understand this?

I realize twitter is public, but lillywhite is not forced to publicly answer each question.

ExistenceNow
04-09-2012, 04:25 PM
I think your inclusion of the crybaby symbol is almost as stupid as your howling wolf t shirts and/or PP coverage. You clearly like childish things.

Why exactly do you post here?

Jake
04-09-2012, 04:26 PM
I think your inclusion of the crybaby symbol is almost as stupid as your howling wolf t shirts and/or PP coverage. You clearly like childish things.

We may need a uber :rattle like one with lederhosen

ExistenceNow
04-09-2012, 04:26 PM
I realize twitter is public, but lillywhite is not forced to publicly answer each question.


So. fucking. what. Just because he isn't forced to answer doesn't mean he is answering with 100% honesty.

hmich176
04-09-2012, 04:27 PM
I realize twitter is public, but lillywhite is not forced to publicly answer each question. Or maybe he is, because it's good PR. He's certainly not going to say anything wishywashy about the album. He's going to say BTCS is the best album he made, because it's the last one he made. He's going to say this album will be better than that, because if it's not, who's going to buy it?

You're trying to make a non-story a story. And, it's not like we need people saying "DMB has risen" when the album hasn't even came out yet.

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 04:30 PM
Or maybe he is, because it's good PR. He's certainly not going to say anything wishywashy about the album. He's going to say BTCS is the best album he made, because it's the last one he made. He's going to say this album will be better than that, because if it's not, who's going to buy it?

You're trying to make a non-story a story. On top of that, it's on Twitter. And, it's not like we need people saying "DMB has risen" when the album hasn't even came out yet.

who's going to buy the album if steve lillywhite doesn't answer one question on twitter? the same million people that will buy it no matter what.. If you haven't noticed from attending shows, there are probably 25X more people not on ants or checking steve lillywhite than are.. the majority of dmb fans do not go on fan sites and do not know about release dates or anything until they get news from dmband.com

efraser77
04-09-2012, 04:30 PM
Carter called ED their best work. Dave said the same about BW (Actually, I believe what he said was that if someone was only going to listen to one thing from DMB, it would be BW). And I'm sure someone said SU was awesome too. Hype is cheap. And Twitter is cheap. So yeah.

Jake
04-09-2012, 04:31 PM
One hundred forty
A lie it does not construct.
Twitter never lies!

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 04:32 PM
So. fucking. what. Just because he isn't forced to answer doesn't mean he is answering with 100% honesty.

It's just amazing to me that you think a critically aclaimed grammy award winning millionaire producer would try to be dishonest on a twitter account.. clearly he has nothing better do

efraser77
04-09-2012, 04:32 PM
Beautiful haiku
Should not be used for lying
Shame on you, sir Jake!

hmich176
04-09-2012, 04:32 PM
who's going to buy the album if steve lillywhite doesn't answer one question on twitter? the same million people that will buy it no matter what.. If you haven't noticed from attending shows, there are probably 25X more people not on ants or checking steve lillywhite than are.. the majority of dmb fans do not go on fan sites and do not know about release dates or anything until they get news from dmband.com
Then why do you give a shit about what he wrote on Twitter? :lol

Why say "DMB has risen" when the album hasn't come out yet? And by the way, the biggest news was confirming that Lillywhite was producing this album.

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 04:34 PM
Carter called ED their best work. Dave said the same about BW (Actually, I believe what he said was that if someone was only going to listen to one thing from DMB, it would be BW). And I'm sure someone said SU was awesome too. Hype is cheap. And Twitter is cheap. So yeah.

all comments regarding previous albums were made in very professional setting with cameras and reporters and such.. in essence, the previous hype was made to be hype. lillywhite is not being asked to hype this album. He's probably getting paid a fat ass flat rate. I doubt his financial benefit really matters much on sales. Unless it goes like 20X platinum, which if it does, will have nothing to do with any hype.

Jake
04-09-2012, 04:34 PM
Steven Lillywhite
Takes to Twitter to tweet truths!
Keepin' it real, yo

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 04:35 PM
Then why do you give a shit about what he wrote on Twitter? :lol

Why say "DMB has risen" when the album hasn't come out yet? And by the way, the biggest news was confirming that Lillywhite was producing this album.

is your brain alive? I give a shit about what he wrote on twitter because I follow the band..

ExistenceNow
04-09-2012, 04:35 PM
It's just amazing to me that you think a critically aclaimed grammy award winning millionaire producer would try to be dishonest on a twitter account.. clearly he has nothing better do


It's just amazing to me that you can't grasp why someone might take 5 seconds to build some positive buzz for their product.

hmich176
04-09-2012, 04:35 PM
lillywhite is not being asked to hype this album. And you know this...how?

is your brain alive? I give a shit about what he wrote on twitter because I follow the band..Yeah, it is. I'm concerned that yours is not.

efraser77
04-09-2012, 04:35 PM
all comments regarding previous albums were made in very professional setting with cameras and reporters and such.. in essence, the previous hype was made to be hype. lillywhite is not being asked to hype this album. He's probably getting paid a fat ass flat rate. I doubt his financial benefit really matters much on sales. Unless it goes like 20X platinum, which if it does, will have nothing to do with any hype.
So you're putting more stock in one tweet than in a big production interview? Makes sense...

ExistenceNow
04-09-2012, 04:36 PM
all comments regarding previous albums were made in very professional setting with cameras and reporters and such.. in essence, the previous hype was made to be hype. lillywhite is not being asked to hype this album. He's probably getting paid a fat ass flat rate. I doubt his financial benefit really matters much on sales. Unless it goes like 20X platinum, which if it does, will have nothing to do with any hype.


Social media is where hype lives now. Get with the times. Lillywhite obviously has.

wizkid983
04-09-2012, 04:37 PM
One hundred forty
A lie it does not construct.
Twitter never lies!

Jake, you have 38,392 posts. I bet you haven't even seen HALF that many shows! Why don't you just go listen to Machead again and leave this DMB talk to the big boys :trap

Jake
04-09-2012, 04:37 PM
Advertising? What?
Not on Twitter! It's private
Does Coke have Twitter?

seekupig
04-09-2012, 04:37 PM
Lillywhite is God
Only tweets true album news
Has aggie rattled

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 04:38 PM
And you know this...how?

Yeah, it is. I'm concerned that yours is not.

You think RCA records or DMB management tells steve lillywhite to do anything? steve lillywhite does what he wants, when he wants, and gets paid big.... someone of his stature does not get asked to hype an album on twitter. sorry, that's what college interns do

Jake
04-09-2012, 04:40 PM
Jake, you have 38,392 posts. I bet you haven't even seen HALF that many shows! Why don't you just go listen to Machead again and leave this DMB talk to the big boys :trap

What is a battle?
No no, what is that rattle?
Sounds like reading Ants

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 04:40 PM
Advertising? What?
Not on Twitter! It's private
Does Coke have Twitter?

Maybe you should ask steve lillywhite to advertise your howling wolf shirts.. would probably spike sales

efraser77
04-09-2012, 04:40 PM
What is a battle?
No no, what is that rattle?
Sounds like reading Ants
I don't think haiku
Is allowed to rhyme like that
I'll ask Lillywhite

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 04:43 PM
It's just amazing to me that you can't grasp why someone might take 5 seconds to build some positive buzz for their product.

sir, he didn't just take 5 seconds away to say "Great Album!!" or "This shit rocks!" or "Man, Jake over at antsmarching.org is a dumb ass for posting front page stories about a high schooler that sort of looks like dave matthews"

He said it's his best work with dmb, a return to the old sound, and wicked.

Jake
04-09-2012, 04:43 PM
Twitter is recent
Benedict Arnold tweet much?
Nope. He's a liar

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 04:45 PM
Thread already 10,
Jake takes it to 11;
Legendary thread.

Jake
04-09-2012, 04:45 PM
sir, he didn't just take 5 seconds away to say "Great Album!!" or "This shit rocks!" or "Man, Jake over at antsmarching.org is a dumb ass for posting front page stories about a high schooler that sort of looks like dave matthews"

He said it's his best work with dmb, a return to the old sound, and wicked.

The question's not when
But rather how long a stint.
This is not a lie

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 04:46 PM
Social media is where hype lives now. Get with the times. Lillywhite obviously has.

That's funny, because there has been 0 hype from dmband.com, facebook dmb, or dmb twitter. is the hype happening over at myspace? i don't go there

LieInHrgraves41
04-09-2012, 04:47 PM
sir, he didn't just take 5 seconds away to say "Great Album!!" or "This shit rocks!" or "Man, Jake over at antsmarching.org is a dumb ass for posting front page stories about a high schooler that sort of looks like dave matthews"

He said it's his best work with dmb, a return to the old sound, and wicked.

So....if I were on a FREE message board, about the band I "love", I would really be careful about who I'm cyber talking shit to....generally "staff" would not be one of them

Jake
04-09-2012, 04:47 PM
Thread already 10,
Jake takes it to 11;
Legendary thread.

Is it epic yet?
What can bring it to epic?
Haiku brings it up

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 04:49 PM
"Twitter is a thing
aggie does not understand.
Rattled, aggie is."

@yoda 13 min ago Reply Retweet Favorite

cry_minarets458
04-09-2012, 04:51 PM
To win ants over
Liken the band to Jesus
claim ants ignorant

Jake
04-09-2012, 04:52 PM
Twitter can rattle
A Connecticut Aggie
Message board don't lie

efraser77
04-09-2012, 04:52 PM
Is it epic yet?
What can bring it to epic?
Haiku brings it up
If we could just get
A whole page that's just haiku
Epic it will be

aggiekjw
04-09-2012, 04:54 PM
So....if I were on a FREE message board, about the band I "love", I would really be careful about who I'm cyber talking shit to....generally "staff" would not be one of them

why? I enjoy reading his idiotic haikus..

back the point, everyone in this thread thinks lillywhite is answering tweets of choice with lies to hype the album..

I disagree with that and think lillywhite is responding to questions of choice because he is proud of what he accomplished with dmb, and he felt his thoughts about the album would be best described by answering that particular question... while it might not be his best work according to us, he believes it is..

that's all I got. I hope Phillip Philips loses american idol and jake can have a front story haiku about it..

I'm out! peace

efraser77
04-09-2012, 04:57 PM
why? I enjoy reading his idiotic haikus..

back the point, everyone in this thread thinks lillywhite is answering tweets of choice with lies to hype the album..

I disagree with that and think lillywhite is responding to questions of choice because he is proud of what he accomplished with dmb, and he felt his thoughts about the album would be best described by answering that particular question... while it might not be his best work according to us, he believes it is..

that's all I got. I hope Phillip Philips loses american idol and jake can have a front story haiku about it..

I'm out! peace
No one thinks that. We just recognize the difference between lying and PR.

maxpower00044
04-09-2012, 04:59 PM
What is a battle?
No no, what is that rattle?

Best post of the thread.

Jake
04-09-2012, 05:00 PM
From green to red light
Twitter knows the truth for sure
The banhammer fell

maxpower00044
04-09-2012, 05:01 PM
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

maxpower00044
04-09-2012, 05:03 PM
this thread's boring now.

efraser77
04-09-2012, 05:04 PM
When Jake writes haiku
And you don't find it funny
Keep it to yourself

kittensXLI
04-09-2012, 05:05 PM
aggiekjw is having the best meltdown since aronofsky. It's awesome. It's awesome

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 05:09 PM
Is it epic yet?
What can bring it to epic?
Haiku brings it up

We must post Fletch quotes.
"One B. B-A-B-A-R."
Thread is now epic.

hmich176
04-09-2012, 05:16 PM
back the point, everyone in this thread thinks lillywhite is answering tweets of choice with lies to hype the album..
I'm not saying he's lying. We won't really know that until the album is released. Hence why this isn't real news.

"DMB has risen." I think you're a bit premature in that statement. You know, like a #41 with an Everyday outro.

Beebz
04-09-2012, 05:29 PM
wades into cesspool
tells everyone
the water is fine

Arby
04-09-2012, 05:31 PM
Im here for the gang bang back read.

efraser77
04-09-2012, 05:32 PM
Wades into cesspool
Tells Beebz that he doesn't know
What a haiku is

thehammer316
04-09-2012, 05:33 PM
Bahahahaha
Thread is great, shoud go viral
Antsmarchingdotorg

lockman21
04-09-2012, 05:36 PM
Awwwwwwwww he was banned?

UCFish
04-09-2012, 05:38 PM
Wades into cesspool
Tells Beebz that he doesn't know
What a haiku is

:lol:lol:lol

:thumbsup

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 05:42 PM
wades into cesspool
tells everyone
the water is fine

575 buddy

Wades into cesspool
Tells Beebz that he doesn't know
What a haiku is

lol

erik_in_atlanta
04-09-2012, 06:06 PM
Pretty psyched about my new duds, and I put a picture of them up on my profile. Sweet, right? Certainly not the kind of thing that could start a flame war on a message board?

davet7462
04-09-2012, 06:10 PM
wades into cesspool
tells everyone
the water is fine

575 buddy



lol

Actually - that was 5-7-5

wades in-to cess-pool
tells e-ver-y-one
the wa-ter is fine

kittensXLI
04-09-2012, 06:11 PM
Joe Paterno did not teach haiku class.

dduncan6er
04-09-2012, 06:17 PM
You "elite" members are in denial. Lilywhite would not lie on a private forum like Twitter. This album is going to be amazing. The lack of faith makes me wonder if you guys are even fans.

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 06:17 PM
Actually - that was 5-7-5


1........2..3....4.....5
wades in-to cess-pool
1.....2..3...4..5
tells e-ver-y-one
1.....2...3..4...5
the wa-ter is fine

hmmmmmmmm

Arby
04-09-2012, 06:19 PM
Is Stefe Lillywhite producing the next album??

kittensXLI
04-09-2012, 06:21 PM
Welcome to Ants.

Arby
04-09-2012, 06:23 PM
So Rob Cavallo's duck is not producing the next album then?

moosicmaniac
04-09-2012, 06:27 PM
You "elite" members are in denial. Lilywhite would not lie on a private forum like Twitter. This album is going to be amazing. The lack of faith makes me wonder if you guys are even fans.

It's not that he'd be "lying." it's that I'm sure, whether we think it is their best work or not, he will certainly think so. He wouldn't work on something he wasn't proud of, it's a matter of whether that matches up with what the fans want.

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 06:27 PM
So Rob Cavallo's duck is not producing the next album then?

Actual stock photo of Steve Lillywhite producing hit records (http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/9021181/2/stock-illustration-9021181-rubber-ducky-with-headphones.jpg)

Jimi Thing 10
04-09-2012, 06:50 PM
http://i.imgur.com/500JM.gif

Beebz
04-09-2012, 07:55 PM
Actual stock photo of Steve Lillywhite producing hit records (http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/9021181/2/stock-illustration-9021181-rubber-ducky-with-headphones.jpg)

:lol:lol

Beebz
04-09-2012, 07:57 PM
hmmmmmmmm

This is ants broseph
things like facts do not matter
obama is terrorist

TwoStep2888
04-09-2012, 08:02 PM
577

if I gave fucks I'd be giving one right now dude

mantis32
04-09-2012, 08:16 PM
filibuster

lockman21
04-09-2012, 08:30 PM
Actually - that was 5-7-5

wades in-to cess-pool
tells e-ver-y-one
the wa-ter is fine

Everyone is 3 syllables, not 4, and even if it were 4, that makes that like 5, not 7.

Fail math?

davem#36
04-09-2012, 09:36 PM
Twitter is stupid but with that said id rather listen to a professional producer that has made GREAT DMB albums over members of the band that wrote terrible shit like ED and SU. Lillywhite knows what it takes out of this band that the band obviously cannot do without him.

JCpatriot66
04-09-2012, 09:36 PM
Everyone is 3 syllables, not 4, and even if it were 4, that makes that like 5, not 7.

Fail math?

Not even math. That's a straight counting fail. No abacus required.

moosicmaniac
04-09-2012, 09:38 PM
Twitter is stupid but with that said id rather listen to a professional producer that has made GREAT DMB albums over members of the band that wrote terrible shit like ED and SU. Lillywhite knows what it takes out of this band that the band obviously cannot do without him.

Not to be mr. negativity, because I am really excited for this record, but Lillywhite can't force Dave to write better lyrics like before the ED days. I really do think this will be a big return to the sound of the DMB we love, but I just hope Dave's songwriting chops can match it.

davem#36
04-09-2012, 09:40 PM
If LW produced ED and/or SU then i can understand where people are coming from but as of now he has done nothing but help this band write the most creative and inspiring stuff. Dave wrote shit without him and now hes back with him so why cannot it not possibly be great?

hmich176
04-09-2012, 10:40 PM
now hes back with him so why cannot it not possibly be great?I can ask you the same question, but in reverse. Nothing is guaranteed one way or the other. Wait until the album actually comes out. Give it a listen. Give it about 3 more listens. Then judge it.

Bruceman
04-10-2012, 05:19 AM
Everyone is 3 syllables, not 4, and even if it were 4, that makes that like 5, not 7.

Fail math?

Then that makes "tells everyone" 4 syllables. 4 is not "like 5".


Math failing continues

BotheDMBFan
04-10-2012, 06:11 AM
Then that makes "tells everyone" 4 syllables. 4 is not "like 5".


Math failing continues

Not as bad as your reading comprehensionz.

Bruceman
04-10-2012, 06:31 AM
Not as bad as your reading comprehensionz.


When you're right you're right, I misread.

ExistenceNow
04-10-2012, 07:49 AM
If LW produced ED and/or SU then i can understand where people are coming from but as of now he has done nothing but help this band write the most creative and inspiring stuff. Dave wrote shit without him and now hes back with him so why cannot it not possibly be great?


Of course it CAN be great.

A lot of people just aren't willing to take Lillywhite's word for it that it IS great, you know, since we haven't heard it yet.

JunkBondTrader
04-10-2012, 08:56 AM
Exactly. We haven't heard it yet. People need to stop saying this album will be great just because Lilywhite is producing it. Just wait and see. I've seen some people that believe the band is sitting on their best record. Even if they were on a hot streak and this was coming out after BTCS I would still have may doubts. It is not easy to put out a great record. For example, Gaslight Anthem just finished recording their 4th album, they've put out a really good record and 2 great records before that. I have no reason to believe the album will not be great....but I have my doubts. Just because putting out a great record isnt easy. Wait till you hear the damn thing, and then wait another month. Then you will know.

chiprip
04-10-2012, 01:09 PM
I'm not going to judge anything Steve or Stefan say or don't say about the album prior to it coming out on Twitter. However, what has surprised me this go around is how much more private they have been about it. DMB hasn't been causing a stir with a new album website or leaking videos "inside" the studio. That is definitely a change in direction from the past couple efforts.

Beebz
04-10-2012, 03:52 PM
Thread is still open?
Provides me much more time to
practice my haikus

Lee3691
04-10-2012, 03:55 PM
Would irony be defined as reading this thread at an Outback Steakhouse?

Arby
04-10-2012, 04:06 PM
This thread has just been
Backread by me: somedevil
What a good ol' time

Jake
04-11-2012, 12:12 PM
Thread is still open?
Provides me much more time to
practice my haikus

Fucking Rookie, yeesh!
weaksauce on many levels;
Haiku is plural

dmb27364041
04-11-2012, 12:15 PM
Should have been moved to the garbage...

BotheDMBFan
04-11-2012, 12:17 PM
Fucking Rookie, yeesh!
weaksauce on many levels;
Haiku is plural

I'm American.
Haiku is a shitty style.
Fuck the style hard.

jaking1185
04-11-2012, 12:44 PM
Sorry I missed this. I love it when Twostep gets going.

gakm7
04-11-2012, 12:57 PM
New album coming
Cue endless nonstop bitching
Welcome to this site =)

Arby
04-11-2012, 02:06 PM
A 9 page epic thread? Not sure how I feel about this.

grace2
04-11-2012, 02:34 PM
twostep2888=best poster ever

whygohome?
04-11-2012, 03:56 PM
If you were Thomas Jefferson and I was John Adams I would write very critically of you regarding the role of the federal government and the strength of our national military, we would later die on the same day July 4 1826

This is one of the best posts I've ever seen. Two step killed that guy

DoDaFoo
04-11-2012, 04:10 PM
Aggie got rattled
TwoStep and Jake had their way
What a great back read

Beebz
04-11-2012, 04:17 PM
A 9 page epic thread? Not sure how I feel about this.

This. Had the guy stuck around longer it's a no brainer.

AJF_41
04-11-2012, 05:46 PM
solid thread.
not legendary.

TwoStep2888
04-11-2012, 06:19 PM
solid thread.
not legendary.

That's the worst haiku I've ever seen

Arby
04-11-2012, 07:55 PM
She said
A hundred times
She said
A thousand times
Yeah
YEAH
YEAYAEYAEHAHEHAEHAWHEAYEHAEY

TwoStep2888
04-11-2012, 08:03 PM
She said
A hundred times
She said
A thousand times
Yeah
YEAH
YEAYAEYAEHAHEHAEHAWHEAYEHAEY

Stevie Lils just tweeted that ABI owns. must be true guys, it's on his Private TwitZone Page