Mercy - Does It Make The AT40?

[stoneje]

Simple question: now that we've heard how it's going to sound on the radio (though maybe w/o the outro), and regardless of how you feel about the song personally, do you think Mercy will make the American Top 40?

Poll coming.

[michaelbobbish]

I voted yes, but i'm not certain about it. it's very good and would seem to have a broad appeal. It's certainly better than the last several singles

[drop2d]

Where's DJGeneral when you need him??? Only he would know the answer to this question :rolleyes

[thebridge15]

Yes, it will. It's not the catchiest song, but there are enough people that will listen because it's DMB.

[eggsrsweet]

As a single, I think its one of the best they've ever had. With that said, I think it will do pretty well on the radio. Though it may seem like the radio is dominated by dance music, artists like Gotye, Mumford and Sons, Jason Mraz, and Adele have some of the biggest hits of the past year or two. Those songs have much more lasting power too whereas the annoying pop songs seem to come and go. So there is definitely still a huge demand for good pop/rock music on the radio. I will say it makes top 20 or so. That'd be cool if it was #1 though.

[stoneje]

American Baby was their highest charting song, at #15 - Crash is second at #19. They have had 7 top 40 songs in the US. I say Mercy makes it, and gets into the 20s.

[Dancewme36]

I feel like it's very listener friendly - def. has a good shot

[Bluewater21]

I personally think its a terrible choice for a first single, I'm gonna say no, most radio listeners will call it slow and boring. Furthermore I'm pretty disappointed in the studio cut, just sounds off to me.

[stoneje]

I personally think its a terrible choice for a first single, I'm gonna say no, most radio listeners will call it slow and boring. Furthermore I'm pretty disappointed in the studio cut, just sounds off to me.

Interesting - I see your point that it might not appeal to radio listeners, but wow I think the studio version of this song sounds SO good! Is there one thing in particular that you really didn't like about it, or was it just not your type of song?

[klumps13]

The one thing I do think is missing, is the "big bang" i hear in the live version. but I do love this song, and the studio recording.

[pmcox3333]

I'm gonna say yes. Where? I don't know. But it's a good, borderline great, song so it probably won't be too heavily played by todays radio.

[LeftyDv]

American Top 40? No... but Triple A Radio will eat that shit up.

[Nexx]

Gaucho has already been getting radio play where I am, I'd much rather hear that on the radio than Mercy. I think they would have had better luck with that as an official single

[BotheDMBFan]

Mercy will hit around #30 and trail out.

If they tried to publish it out as a country single, it could fair better.

Also, if they had a great video, that would help as well.

[Bluewater21]

Interesting - I see your point that it might not appeal to radio listeners, but wow I think the studio version of this song sounds SO good! Is there one thing in particular that you really didn't like about it, or was it just not your type of song?

It just sounds empty and fast to me. Just not impressed, expected more drama from it

[robbosma]

I did not know the American Top 40 still existed, or that people still listened to terrestrial radio for that matter.

[sheldonlevene]

It will at least chart. Possibly in the high 20's.

[Foreverford05]

Hell no. Too many people turn their heads when they hear the words 'dmb', plus contrary to people's believe, its not half as catchy as the new Nicki minaj, onedirection, chris brown, flo-rida, the script, usher, miley or nickelback song thats bound to be out around the same time. No AT40 for dmb this year.

[stoneje]

I did not know the American Top 40 still existed, or that people still listened to terrestrial radio for that matter.

Sirius XM 20 on 20 plays the top half of the top 40, so yeah, music charts are definitely around!

Hell no. Too many people turn their heads when they hear the words 'dmb', plus contrary to people's believe, its not half as catchy as the new Nicki minaj, onedirection, chris brown, flo-rida, the script, usher, miley or nickelback song thats bound to be out around the same time. No AT40 for dmb this year.

Strong words, Foreverford05. Strong words.

[mthawk07]

Might sneak in there, but it won't get in the top 20.

[ElijahSoRight72]

I say yes to help get spirits up. It's been a while since DMB had a real hit- and I think Mercy can touch a lot of people if it just gets radio play. But if the album hits #1, then I don't care where the singles land.

[coolhotwaves]

This thing will hit #1 on AAA but I doubt it will crack the top 40

[SBSFC91]

Looking at the top 40 from just this past week.......Doesn't look like a really good chance that Mercy will make it past 30 if it even gets on the charts

[trippingbillie4]

Damn I should have read the original post before I voted. I thought you were asking if it will crack Ants top 40 dmb songs.

[styx491]

Yes for sure, it's a catchy ass song and simple and short enough

[davestheman]

I hope it does but I voted no as I am quite familiar with what the majority of radio listeners deem to be good music. Most of us just stick to our iPods because of this although I occasionally listen to the radio in the car when I get tired of playing BTCS over and over and over again (plus the disk got scratched and Pig skips around a bit).

[bustedstuff88]

At40? Doubtful. That list is reserved for the garbage that lady gaga and justin beaver put out.

One more thing though.....That outro.....Jeff's Sax work would do Roi proud. It is so smooth and mellow, it is almost as if Roi is in there. Its so hauntingly good i honestly cannot get over it. Cutting it out for radio play would be a damn shame.

:leroi

[Kiwichris88]

I reckon it'll make the Top 40. Too much Bieber and Minaj crap to stop it getting any higher than 20 though. I would have thought Gaucho would have been a better single (business-wise) with the kids and the 'we-gotta-change-the-world' chorus. I dunno, just my 2 cents.

[spider-man]

Damn I should have read the original post before I voted. I thought you were asking if it will crack Ants top 40 dmb songs.

same here...oh well

[crounsa810]

Probably not. Only way it'll get there is by a bunch of teenage girls thinking the "carry on just a little bit longer and I'll try to give you what you need" part is about them and their boyfriend of the week.


Add some untz untz untz and a guest vocal by Rihanna and it'd probably be number 1. But I'm ok with it not making it on the charts. Because most things that are Top 40 are complete crap.

[SBSFC91]

Probably not. Only way it'll get there is by a bunch of teenage girls thinking the "carry on just a little bit longer and I'll try to give you what you need" part is about them and their boyfriend of the week.


Add some untz untz untz and a guest vocal by Rihanna and it'd probably be number 1. But I'm ok with it not making it on the charts. Because most things that are Top 40 are complete crap.
Absolutely 100% this

[bustedstuff88]

Probably not. Only way it'll get there is by a bunch of teenage girls thinking the "carry on just a little bit longer and I'll try to give you what you need" part is about them and their boyfriend of the week.


Add some untz untz untz and a guest vocal by Rihanna and it'd probably be number 1. But I'm ok with it not making it on the charts. Because most things that are Top 40 are complete crap.


You, my friend, have just summed up how popular music becomes radio-worthy.

Bravo!

[alpinevalley4]

Just because it's DMB, it will.

[ElijahSoRight72]

Just because it's DMB, it will.

^ I don't think thats a book it statement
:shrug

[bustedstuff88]

^ I don't think thats a book it statement
:shrug


Very true. Didnt they lose in 1996 for song of the year to "Macarina" at the grammy's?

[BotheDMBFan]

Very true. Didnt they lose in 1996 for song of the year to "Macarina" at the grammy's?

No, they didn't.

[bustedstuff88]

No, they didn't.

Well fuck me sideways :(

[crounsa810]

AT40 as of June 30th:

1 Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen
2 Somebody That I Used to Know - Gotye
3 Payphone - Maroon 5
4 What Makes You Beautiful - One Direction
5 Starships - Nicki Minaj
6 We Are Young - Fun.
7 Wild Ones - Flo Rida
8 Glad You Came - The Wanted
9 Where Have You Been - Rihanna
10 Scream - Usher
11 Boyfriend - Justin Bieber
12 Brokenhearted - Karmin
13 Lights - Ellie Goulding
14 Back In Time - Pitbull
15 Drive By - Train
16 Wide Awake - Katy Perry
17 Titanium - David Guetta
18 The Fighter - Gym Class Heroes
19 Stronger - Kelly Clarkson
20 Part of Me - Katy Perry
21 Give Your Heart a Break - Demi Lovato
22 Rumour Has It - Adele
23 Feel So Close - Calvin Harris
24 Back Home - Gym Class Heroes
25 Let's Go - Calvin Harris
26 We Run the Night - Havana Brown
27 Take Care - Drake
28 One Thing - One Direction
29 Turn Me On - David Guetta
30 How We Do - Rita Ora
31 Party Rock Anthem - LMFAO
32 Sexy and I Know It - LMFAO
33 We Found Love - Rihanna
34 Good Feeling - Flo Rida
35 Drank In My Cup - Kirko Bangz
36 Without You - David Guetta
37 Everybody Talks - Neon Trees
38 Set Fire to The Rain - Adele
39 Chasing the Sun - The Wanted
40 Grouplove - Tongue Tied



Holy fucking shit. That is fucking horrible music right there. I would take it as an insult if Mercy was anywhere near Top 40.

[SpecialAgent007]

Who cares?

And I don't mean that in a close-minded DMB fan way. I mean that as a keen and objective observer of the ever-fragmented and broken music industry. Top 40 has never been more meaningless than now, despite their efforts to use for more modern measurements that account at least somewhat for internet-based listening.

The industry is changing so much. John Mayer's "Born and Raised" was #1 on the charts it's first week at what, 300,000-something albums I think? It was #1 in it's second week too, selling 65,000 or so albums. What shouldn't strike you is the drop in sales so much as that it's possible if not likely that you'll have a #1 album nowadays that doesn't even come close to moving 100,000 units in a weeks span.

The times they are changing...

[stoneje]

Who cares?

And I don't mean that in a close-minded DMB fan way. I mean that as a keen and objective observer of the ever-fragmented and broken music industry. Top 40 has never been more meaningless than now, despite their efforts to use for more modern measurements that account at least somewhat for internet-based listening.

The industry is changing so much. John Mayer's "Born and Raised" was #1 on the charts it's first week at what, 300,000-something albums I think? It was #1 in it's second week too, selling 65,000 or so albums. What shouldn't strike you is the drop in sales so much as that it's possible if not likely that you'll have a #1 album nowadays that doesn't even come close to moving 100,000 units in a weeks span.

The times they are changing...

This is a really good point. I think the numbers you quoted illustrate that album sales are on their way out, though. If that happens, we'll be left with a singles chart, making the AT40 (or the iTunes Top Downloads list or whatever) even more important, right? I'm no music industry expert by any stretch, so any informed opinions on this topic would be awesome!

[tim.ryan]

I doubt it will make it - it starts too slow and will take the uneducated (non DMB fans) a few listens to get into - I don't think radio is all that keen on songs that slowly grow on you, they want things that are immediately in your head that they can flog the f___ out of and bury it.

From my first few listens I think The Riff may be a bit more radio friendly but again the first minute is a bit slow.

For the record I am really happy with both and would love to hear them on radio

[onuace135]

I did vote yes shortly after this thread was posted, but after giving mercy more of a listen and hearing what is currently in the top 40...I really hope it does not make it.

Mercy is far more superb than the crap that is being played on the radio and its not that Mercy does not deserve to be on a list with those songs...its that those songs do not deserve to be on a list with mercy.

[BotheDMBFan]

I did vote yes shortly after this thread was posted, but after giving mercy more of a listen and hearing what is currently in the top 40...I really hope it does not make it.

Mercy is far more superb than the crap that is being played on the radio and its not that Mercy does not deserve to be on a list with those songs...its that those songs do not deserve to be on a list with mercy.

This is pretty dumb logic, no offense.

"I like Mercy. Mercy is a good song. I don't like Top 40 radio. Top 40 radio is bad. I don't want my good song that I like making Top 40 radio better overall, possibly having a long term effect in making it better permanently!"

Now, don't get me wrong, I don't think that Mercy will make much of an impact. I CERTAINLY don't think it will be a long-standing changer.

...But you never know what the zeitgeist for change could be...

[onuace135]

This is pretty dumb logic, no offense.

"I like Mercy. Mercy is a good song. I don't like Top 40 radio. Top 40 radio is bad. I don't want my good song that I like making Top 40 radio better overall, possibly having a long term effect in making it better permanently!"

Now, don't get me wrong, I don't think that Mercy will make much of an impact. I CERTAINLY don't think it will be a long-standing changer.

...But you never know what the zeitgeist for change could be...

You make a good point. No offense taken.

[SpecialAgent007]

This is a really good point. I think the numbers you quoted illustrate that album sales are on their way out, though. If that happens, we'll be left with a singles chart, making the AT40 (or the iTunes Top Downloads list or whatever) even more important, right? I'm no music industry expert by any stretch, so any informed opinions on this topic would be awesome!

Albums as we know them are definitely on the way out. They'll still exist, but they'll become less and less normal. After all, they've only existed in the manner we identify them now for a short period of time in the history of written music. In the broader context of music history, it's always been more of a "singles" game, with an "EP" mixed in here or there.

The transition away from albums won't be a bad thing. While when done well, they can offer an incredible experience to the listener, the majority of the time, they feature a great deal of filler material just to justify the existence of a full LP as opposed to a single or EP. The more artists adjust to new delivery methods, the easier it will be for they and listeners to let go of the unnecessary attachment to the LP album model.

Artists will find that it's easier to focus on creating quality content when they're less concerned with having 10-12 songs ready to go for an album. It'll also allow them to release new music more often, which will help keep fans interested and invested in a more consistent manner than the current 18-24 month album cycle allows.

I'm pretty excited about the future of music. It's going to be different and plenty of dinosaur executives will try to create 1997 again and drag their feet, but progress won't be stopped, and from an artistic standpoint, that's just very exciting.

And to be clear, the future of music in the emerging music industry isn't based on charts. Charts don't really mean anything now. Charts are a result of 20th century needs when information wasn't so readily available and the radio was nearly your only gateway to new music. And let's be clear, chart success does not even come close to translating to literal business let alone artistic success. There's no money in mainstream music, at least for the acts. Lady Gaga has killed on the charts in the last few years and even she had to file for bankruptcy a bit ago. So how well do you think all the forgettable Top 40 acts who burn out after a few weeks do? Most can't tour on their music, and if they can, thanks to being stupid enough to sign 360 deals, they're only creating more revenue for the label, not for themselves. The mainstream charts just don't matter anymore.

With the internet, everything is out there and there are thousands of ways to discover new music. The mainstream is shrinking; everything is already practically niche. Twitter has allowed for an instant and direct line of communication between fans and artists. What matters now is that you build your tribe and play to them, because they're the one's who will build your fan base and allow you to have a career. And while less and less acts will make millions upon millions of dollars like every other act (thought) they did in the 90's, more quality acts will be able to have a descent career with far less artistic compromise. It'll be a better experience for fans and artists both. It'll take more work on the part of the artist, but it'll be far more rewarding.

And...I'm incredibly excited about it all.

[Firedancer627]

I think If Only would stand a better chance at a broader audience...I'm kind of surprised Mercy was picked...I mean it's a great tune...but we'll see what happens...

[ElijahSoRight72]

I think If Only would stand a better chance at a broader audience...I'm kind of surprised Mercy was picked...I mean it's a great tune...but we'll see what happens...

Sometimes there are surprise hits out there- you can pick one supposedly radio friendly thing and have it go nowhere when another could get to #1 that you wouldn't have expected. I honestly don't know if Mercy will be immediately liked and understood by listeners in radio land who are used to liking a song by first hear. Who knows?

[skoobz314]

Hell no. Too many people turn their heads when they hear the words 'dmb', plus contrary to people's believe, its not half as catchy as the new Nicki minaj, onedirection, chris brown, flo-rida, the script, usher, miley or nickelback song thats bound to be out around the same time. No AT40 for dmb this year.

I agree, its just not going to be more popular than the 40 pop songs ahead of it. Is it better, sure but it won't be as popular.

[dreamingant1132]

did funny make it?

[BotheDMBFan]

It did, at #37.

[jaytherevelator]

I dunno.. I was hoping this album would be different from the last 3, however I think all of the magic prior to The Lillywhite Sessions is gone. Mercy sounds like just another generic song to me

[SBSFC91]

I dunno.. I was hoping this album would be different from the last 3, however I think all of the magic prior to The Lillywhite Sessions is gone. Mercy sounds like just another generic song to me

If you don't like the stuff that they're coming out with now then that's fine, but for the love of St. Pete, please do not say that this album is anything like the last 3. We have heard nothing that even sounds close to Everyday, Stand Up, or Big Whiskey.

[SeekUpTheCubs]

Probably not. Only way it'll get there is by a bunch of teenage girls thinking the "carry on just a little bit longer and I'll try to give you what you need" part is about them and their boyfriend of the week.


Add some untz untz untz and a guest vocal by Rihanna and it'd probably be number 1. But I'm ok with it not making it on the charts. Because most things that are Top 40 are complete crap.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thum bsup do you think theyll add all that? That would be perfect. Than DMB could sell out like Coldplay

[stoneje]

You can officially purchase Mercy on iTunes as of today - I guess we'll know pretty soon whether it's got a shot at the chart.

[DMBluedevils]

Everyone on this site should buy mercy, it would be number 1 on iTunes!! Haha but how weird would that be to see mercy at number 1.

[YankeesDMB41]

Going on DMBs Itunes page reminds me that "Work It Out" exists...and is very popular

[Dannyyankou]

Mercy made it to #60 on the top songs chart, and #1 on the top rock songs chart.

[gjdt2scf13]

51. Mercy - Dave Matthews BandTuesday, July 17, 2012 2:49 PM

It's up to #51 on the main chart now. Pretty sure "Funny" went Top 10 when it was released

[ElijahSoRight72]

51. Mercy - Dave Matthews BandTuesday, July 17, 2012 2:49 PM

It's up to #51 on the main chart now. Pretty sure "Funny" went Top 10 when it was released

How long did it take FTWII to get to the top ten?

[dreamingant1132]

7 spots away haha

[Simm0nS]

7 spots away haha

I dont think the AT40 is the same thing as the iTunes top 40.

[vandertramps]

right now, mercy is 43 on itunes, but the deluxe version of away from the world is #5 on albums

[Dr.Spaceman]

as of 11:30 EST, Truck Yeah, by Tim McGraw is more popular on iTunes than Mercy.

[stoneje]

as of 11:30 EST, Truck Yeah, by Tim McGraw is more popular on iTunes than Mercy.

:lol oh USA, why must you be so tacky?

[ah1252]

Its #36 on the Billboard Rock Charts


http://www.billboard.com/artist/dave-matthews/16389#/artist/dave-matthews/chart-history/16389?f=902&g=Singles

[kitkatcarter]

Mercy is an excellent song. I love it!

[tripeyedfish]

Its #36 on the Billboard Rock Charts


http://www.billboard.com/artist/dave-matthews/16389#/artist/dave-matthews/chart-history/16389?f=902&g=Singles

God, the music on most of these charts is so terrible....

[davetripping02]

payphone by maroon 5 is the most god awful song in the history of music. but yet it had the most downloads on itunes a few weeks ago

atleast ZBB is #1 in billboard 200

[dizzle]

Triple A:

1 3 DAVE MATTHEWS BAND Mercy 539
2 1 LUMINEERS Ho Hey 538
3 2 IMAGINE DRAGONS It's Time 531
4 5 JOHN MAYER Queen Of California 462
5 7 BRANDI CARLILE That Wasn't Me 440
6 4 GREEN DAY Oh Love 436
7 6 FUN. Some Nights 431
8 10 MATT NATHANSON Modern Love 371
9 9 GROUPLOVE Tongue Tied 334
10 12 KILLERS Runaways 326
11 11 AVETT BROTHERS Live And Die 325
12 15 WALLFLOWERS Reboot The Mission 301
13 8 ED SHEERAN The A Team 300
14 0 MUMFORD & SONS I Will Wait 282
15 17 MICHAEL KIWANUKA I'm Getting Ready 273
16 16 GRAFFITI6 Stare Into The Sun 231
17 13 FLORENCE + THE MACHINE No Light, No Light 221
18 19 JACK WHITE I'm Shakin' 199
19 18 BLIND PILOT Half Moon 170
20 22 DAWES If I Wanted Someone 152
21 24 WALK THE MOON Anna Sun 151
22 31 BEN HOWARD Only Love 143
23 21 MATCHBOX TWENTY She's So Mean 136
24 30 ALEX CLARE Too Close 133
25 34 ALABAMA SHAKES I Ain't The Same 129
26 35 TRISTAN PRETTYMAN My Oh My 128
27 27 NEON TREES Everybody Talks 115
28 25 ADELE I'll Be Waiting 111
29 20 JERRY DOUGLAS Boxer f/Mumford & Sons 110
30 33 BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN Rocky Ground 102