anyone else sick of punk music

[jh460]

hey im starting to get sick of this crap. i know some ppl here probably like it but it is non talented music. anyway i am not just writing this to complain but at stuff like battle of the bands are dominated by punk music, which sucks because if you play dave music you have no chance of winning and it discourages you from entering. i mean is this b.s. on its way out yet? hopefully? the ppl who listen to it will listen to it for a couple yrs then grow out of it. if you think about it, me and most ppl on here will still be listening to dave occassionally when were in our 30s, 40s, etc. just like ppl do now who grew up with the beatles. all punk is is yelling and bar chords and guys who sound like they are little boys being tortured into singing.

[lightsdown41]

Originally posted by jh460
hey im starting to get sick of this crap. i know some ppl here probably like it but it is non talented music. anyway i am not just writing this to complain but at stuff like battle of the bands are dominated by punk music, which sucks because if you play dave music you have no chance of winning and it discourages you from entering. i mean is this b.s. on its way out yet? hopefully? the ppl who listen to it will listen to it for a couple yrs then grow out of it. if you think about it, me and most ppl on here will still be listening to dave occassionally when were in our 30s, 40s, etc. just like ppl do now who grew up with the beatles. all punk is is yelling and bar chords and guys who sound like they are little boys being tortured into singing.

amen brotha music these days is taking a turn for the worst because it is so heavily dominated by teens who don't care for the integrity of the music, just the image and presentation. music should involve talent, meaning, and unfettered presence, and should not be used only as a way to get money. that's why DMB is so special: they are technically good, the meanings of their songs are universal, and they are just a few guys having fun at what they do.

[PilotC150]

it's boring music. boring drum parts, boring bass parts (just playing the root note) and powerchords over and over. Actually, that's what I don't like about Coldplay. I saw them on Conan last night and it was rather unimpressed and bored the whole time.

[crashintosabine]

It just seems like a lot of the "popular" bands now are just a product of the music industry meat grinder.

Step 1: Throw mediocre talent, bad stylists and out of work song writers into big meat grinder.

Step 2: Turn crank.

Step 3: Out comes band.

[bigeyedharper]

Originally posted by PilotC150
it's boring music. boring drum parts, boring bass parts (just playing the root note) and powerchords over and over. Actually, that's what I don't like about Coldplay. I saw them on Conan last night and it was rather unimpressed and bored the whole time.

i gots to disagree with you on this one. I saw the performance too, and though it was a bit subpar they still kickedass. Comparing them to a punk band quality is a bit harsh i think.

[pj4real29]

punk rock sucks ass....anybody that listens to that must have pubecint volatility built up, sixteen angry at thier father snydrome.

[rastawolf]

The crap you hear today isn't even punk. It's bad music made by pussies who don't want to be frat dicks so they try to act punk. Just a bunch of posers who think it's cool to be the counter culture. That shit was played out back in '95. So was Green Day, somebody should've sent out a memo. Oh but what I really mean is that Good Charlotte is my favorite band, well no, they're tied w/ Sum41. Man those guys can f'in rock!

[I, Brian]

It just seems like a lot of the "popular" bands now are just a product of the music industry meat grinder.

Step 1: Throw mediocre talent, bad stylists and out of work song writers into big meat grinder.

Step 2: Turn crank.

Step 3: Out comes band.

You mean most of it isn't??

[PilotC150]

I actually Enjoy Sum41, SR-71 and American Hi-Fi. Althoug they often sound identical and I can't figure out which band is which until they start singing (unless I already know the song by the music) I like it. SR-71 especially. They have some extremely deep lyrics. You should check out their stuff.

[Firedncin8nancy]

i enjoy SOME of Something Corporate' stuff only because my roommate listens to it so much that i cant help but get used to it, but the rest of their stuff and all that other shit thats loud screaming over repetetive power cords is horrible and should be considdered no more than noise

[DmBillies41]

I like MxPx and thats about it

[FPrefect61]

Originally posted by DmBillies41
I like MxPx and thats about it

I saw MxPx a bunch of years ago when they opened for The Offspring, not a bad band, but not something I'm going to go out of the way to see again

[DmBillies41]

Originally posted by FPrefect61
I saw MxPx a bunch of years ago when they opened for The Offspring, not a bad band, but not something I'm going to go out of the way to see again

Always wanted to see them cause I used to love them but then I heard about Dave and yeah the music doesn't compare

[CarterFan]

punk sucks and thats all i have to say

[@WarWithTheMoon]

I agree. I'm sick of New Found Glory. They seem so boring to me, but somehow everyone loves that stuff.

By the way, has anyone else noticed his weird squinty face he makes in one of their videos? Haha, it seems rather weird to me...

[mawron]

I'm not defending today's "punk." I personally don't consider Sum41, NFG, what you see on Mtv to be anywhere near punk. But in having a large span of music taste (Sinatra to DMB to Clash to Ska to NIN) each form of music has different highs. Punk has plenty of it.

Punk may not be artistically sound (essentially known as 3 chord rock), but it's lyrics carry everyday vibes and a general feeling of youth/angst that anyone can feel. The energy that is given off in a live performance is phenominal. DMB (since this is Ants I'll use them as reference) gives off a great vibe, makes you want to move, to sway, to close your eyes and feel the music, to let the lyrics touch you. Punk is more, jump up and down, move around, get aggressive, get everything out.

If you've listen to the Ramones their recorded music was normal speed, almost "pop"-ish. Their live show was far from that. Guitars moving at a blistering pace, lyrics flying and a crowd moving along beat for beat. There's so many forms too. Pop-punk (which is what you've probably heard), the political punk of the Clash and Bad Religion, ska-punk of Operation Ivy and Less than Jake.

Most people feel you won't understand or truly get into DMB if you don't catch a live show. It really is the same for punk (or at least the old-school stuff), to be a part of the live show is a great experience

[joghia]

I completely agree with ya. Im sick of punk too. They can't sing and the music are the same chords over and over..

[Haiku Jimi]

I'm more sick of the punk attitude, than the music itself. Not to stereotype, but the stereotypical punk fan pisses me off. But the music really is simplistic. Hell...Jack Johnson's a better guitarist than most punk players...Don't get me wrong btw, JJ is great. But you know what i mean

[Obsessor Of 41]

Frankly, I can't stand punk. I can't even listen to it in a rebellious mood. Or whatever mood they classify "that" music under.

[Third Floor]

funny in all this complaining about punk music, only one person, the one who likes punk, mentioned actual punk bands. plearn the difference between pop and punk. go listen to rancid or op ivy, then you will realize that you have judged a genre of music by the worst it has to offer

[ItsFayball41]

I don't like most punk but some of the more emo/less hardcore stuff I enjoy. I'm a huge Dashboard Confessional fan and Something Corporate I think is pretty sweet too. I mean acoustic guitars and pianos in punk? Damn. Besides, download Konstantine by Something Corporate....sweet song and not very punk sounding at all.

[mawron]

That's the odd thing about punk sometimes, the band is punk, or at least labeled that, but doesn't sound like what you consider your normal punk (loud fast and furious) would be.

Nirvana? Grunge, sure they had to come up with a word. But definately punk.

Talking Heads and other New Wave bands? They all considered themselves punk but they were labeled New Wave because they sounded nothing like the music X/Ramones/Pistols/Clash that represented punk. Punk is rebellion, I guess consideration for the label is rebellion against the established music of the time.

I don't mean to be dating myself. I too hate this new pop/punk explosion, they're more packaged by mtv than anything. Most of the bands have been around for at least 5/6 years (Good Charlotte, etc) just that it's no necessarily their music that is bringing them to the forefront of the scene :(

Just don't knock it until you've tried it. Should there be more posts maybe i'll talk about the fan scene.

[rastawolf]

Originally posted by Third Floor
funny in all this complaining about punk music, only one person, the one who likes punk, mentioned actual punk bands. plearn the difference between pop and punk. go listen to rancid or op ivy, then you will realize that you have judged a genre of music by the worst it has to offer

True, true. However, bands like Sum41, Green Day, etc, are the bands that are being labeled as punk and these are the bands that get airplay. These are the classless fools who the kids these days are modeling themselves after. Obviously, the shit on the radio & Mtv is hardly punk if you know what punk music/lifestyle/attitude is really about. But the question originally posed is entirely based on top 40 music. How else could you be sick of punk if you were talking about REAL punk bands who don't get airplay? Punk isn't even the genre of music it used to be. Everything is a big melting pot anymore and musical influences blend into each other everywhere you turn. That being said, all of the "popular" bands mentioned in this thread are more entertainers than anything.

[mawron]

Originally posted by rastawolf
True, true. However, bands like Sum41, Green Day, etc, are the bands that are being labeled as punk and these are the bands that get airplay. These are the classless fools who the kids these days are modeling themselves after. Obviously, the shit on the radio & Mtv is hardly punk if you know what punk music/lifestyle/attitude is really about. But the question originally posed is entirely based on top 40 music. How else could you be sick of punk if you were talking about REAL punk bands who don't get airplay? Punk isn't even the genre of music it used to be. Everything is a big melting pot anymore and musical influences blend into each other everywhere you turn. That being said, all of the "popular" bands mentioned in this thread are more entertainers than anything.

Green Day? I don't know about that. They are punk. Never sold out in my eyes. Some say you sell a million records and that's a sell out. Dookie was huge just because it was a solid album front to back. They became popular through their normal antics and their music. Are they producing the same material now than they did back then? No, but I think it's because they grew up, a progression to cover other forms and expand their own music.

Wasn't Sum41 supposed to be the next big metal band??

[Haiku Jimi]

Originally posted by Third Floor
funny in all this complaining about punk music, only one person, the one who likes punk, mentioned actual punk bands. plearn the difference between pop and punk. go listen to rancid or op ivy, then you will realize that you have judged a genre of music by the worst it has to offer

rancid sucks as well...

saw them at the Warped Tour...

Honestly, its more their attitude that bothers me, rather than the music.

[Obsessor Of 41]

punk sucks and thats all i have to say

THANK GOD, I'M TIRED OF HEARING YOU TALK.

[chr35919]

ok...

[Mr. Vertical]

funny in all this complaining about punk music, only one person, the one who likes punk, mentioned actual punk bands. plearn the difference between pop and punk. go listen to rancid or op ivy, then you will realize that you have judged a genre of music by the worst it has to offer

I agree,I am not a huge fan of "punk" but I know why people like it. What is being marketed as punk these days is laughable. Punk or speed I-IV-V pattern may be simplistic but try doing downstrokes at 180 bpm for five minutes straight let alone an hour. Listen to some early punk and some hardcore (Pistols,exploited,fugazi,black flag) and see that its not only about lip rings, tatooes, and coloured hair. It used to be about DIY , don't sell out, say what your feeling, play what you want. The person who started this thread said something about "when I'm trying to play "DAVE MUSIC" at these battle of the bands you have a hard time. Don't try to be like somebody else, be yourself and maybe you will be taken more seriously. I hope I'm not being an asshole. but if you look at what punks values used to be , its pretty similiar to the DMB.

[UPandDOWNstrum]

there is no `actual punk bands on the radio or tv

[nagapamp]

Punk music isn't about the music, its about the statement they are making. It about the fuck you's and shit stains in your pants. It is not music!!

[Tomriddle]

Punk can lick my nuts. Both pop punk and the World Inferno Friendship Society type of "real punk" garbage. Listen to Phish.

[supertramp_dmb]

the entire punk culture is really interesting because what it comes down to is not following the norm, a seeking of freedom and a do it yourself attitude. But then take that very very basic definition and look at other group cultures such as "hippies". they are pretty much based on the same ideas. Now what is considered punk music today i cannot stand. but some of the more original stuff like the Clash i enjoy, green day isnt even too bad. Punk music, characterized by independent labels, regional diversity, and grassroots fanbases, encompasses a wide variety of music genres. Based on that definition what would you say DMB started out as? I find it kind of ironic how today's attempts at punk aren't really punk since they DO follow a now established norm. i mean if you heard that a band was punk you could get a pretty clear idea of what they would look/sound like, they no longer have that shock factor that was so important for the punk culture. I would also say that the punk culture has lost its Do it yourself attitude that was a big part of their scene. wow.. didnt think i would go that long. anyways, here's to throwing away today's so-called punk music.

[bullox005]

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[bullox005]

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[jimibadfish]

I agree,I am not a huge fan of "punk" but I know why people like it. What is being marketed as punk these days is laughable. Punk or speed I-IV-V pattern may be simplistic but try doing downstrokes at 180 bpm for five minutes straight let alone an hour. Listen to some early punk and some hardcore (Pistols,exploited,fugazi,black flag) and see that its not only about lip rings, tatooes, and coloured hair. It used to be about DIY , don't sell out, say what your feeling, play what you want. The person who started this thread said something about "when I'm trying to play "DAVE MUSIC" at these battle of the bands you have a hard time. Don't try to be like somebody else, be yourself and maybe you will be taken more seriously. I hope I'm not being an asshole. but if you look at what punks values used to be , its pretty similiar to the DMB.


:ugh What the fuck is that supposed to mean? I know plenty of 'real' punk rockers and they don't exactly have a lassez-faire attitude.

[JTR&PIG]

i am sorry but this is a great titled thread, lol, sorry but i am all about hating punk, i seriously cannot stand this genre, well i do salute Kurt for revolutionizing grunge, i cannot stand what green day started, and while this is just my opinion sorry for those it offends

[LilMango777]

i am sorry but this is a great titled thread, lol, sorry but i am all about hating punk, i seriously cannot stand this genre, well i do salute Kurt for revolutionizing grunge, i cannot stand what green day started, and while this is just my opinion sorry for those it offends

punk music was great when it originated, but nothing that is played on the radio today is punk. thread title should be, "anyone else sick of really terrible pop rock music."

[JTR&PIG]

punk music was great when it originated, but nothing that is played on the radio today is punk. thread title should be, "anyone else sick of really terrible pop rock music."
all right ill agree with that, i just didn't like that punk type sound, sorry

[LilMango777]

all right ill agree with that, i just didn't like that punk type sound, sorry

That's very understandable, but to call anything played on the radio today "punk" is just laughable. People who lump bands like Fall Out Boy into the punk category are dishonoring the originators of the genre(Velvet Underground, The Clash, The Stooges, New York Dolls, etc.). Also, I wasn't really directing my comment at you, just hit the quote by accident.

[nagapamp]

i am sorry but this is a great titled thread, lol, sorry but i am all about hating punk, i seriously cannot stand this genre, well i do salute Kurt for revolutionizing grunge, i cannot stand what green day started, and while this is just my opinion sorry for those it offendsGreenDay, try the Clash or the frickin Sex Pistols, or the New York Dolls. They started it back in the 70's. Yes the music sucks but that what they wanted. Easy to play music that anyone could play. Thats PUNK!!

[guitarmanuk]

Real Punk originated in the UK in the mid 70's, possibly before some of you were even born. As mentioned in other posts it wasn't about the music, it was all about rebellion, being different and sticking two fingers up at the establishment. Most early Punk was fast and frenetic and "angry". Songs lasted about 1 minute 30 seconds, as anyone who listens to The Ramones will testify. The bands you are complaining about are clones of The Sex Pistols, Public Image, Stiff Little Fingers, The Clash and so on, they are not original and they are no where near as good.

If you really want to complain about music, complain that no one is doing anything original any more. One of the reasons we all like DMB and DM solo is that he is different from the norm. There are very few stadium rock bands lead by acoustic guitar and featuing violin. As mentioned elsewhere, his music will last. Let's face it, a large percentage of this forum is made up of college age people who have recently discovered DMB. I am 45 and first heard DMB in the mid 90's. His music spans all age spectrums and all types of people, and you can't say that about punk and the majority of today's music (my God, I'm sounding just like my dad!!!).

Music will always go round in phases. We have gone back round to punk and guitar based bands, next we will go back to electronic music like we had in the 80's. Now that really was bad .... all sequencers and synthesizers ... when that comes round, you will be wishing for some punk bands would come back and wake you all up. Thank God we will still have DMB to listen too and keep us all sane!

[Dr. Strangelove]

Real Punk originated in the UK in the mid 70's, possibly before some of you were even born. As mentioned in other posts it wasn't about the music, it was all about rebellion, being different and sticking two fingers up at the establishment. Most early Punk was fast and frenetic and "angry". Songs lasted about 1 minute 30 seconds, as anyone who listens to The Ramones will testify. The bands you are complaining about are clones of The Sex Pistols, Public Image, Stiff Little Fingers, The Clash and so on, they are not original and they are no where near as good.

Well, if you want my opinion Real Punk originated in the 60's with The Velvet Underground, but I'm a bit of an extremist. ;)