Volume low after burning

[shelleypoolooza]

Has anyone had this problem? The quality of the shows are great, it's just that I have to turn the volume all the way up on any device just to hear it normally. Is there any way to fix this problem?

[rhuss]

try listening to the shn's 1st on your pc.

[cyberhound]

Originally posted by shelleypoolooza
Has anyone had this problem? The quality of the shows are great, it's just that I have to turn the volume all the way up on any device just to hear it normally. Is there any way to fix this problem?

You may need to normalize the .wav files before burning them. This can be done with many .wav editiing programs.

[rhuss]

Originally posted by cyberhound
You may need to normalize the .wav files before burning them. This can be done with many .wav editiing programs.

why?

Normalization will make the highest peak reach the specified level but has nothing to do at all with the perceived loudness or natural dynamics of the audio. It will make the peaks louder, you will also be raising the level of the noise floor as well. You're not gaining any dynamic range. In addition, normalizing will introduce a new layer of dither (noise).

Normalization, done right, just maximizes the level on the CD without getting into the distortion range. If you record a acoustic live performance, even a normalized CD will be at a much lower average level than most commercial CDs, since most commercial CDs are dynamically limited at the loudest levels so the average level of sound is much higher.

[cyberhound]

Originally posted by rhuss
why?

Well, when I use it, it does raise the volume level. If something is at originally at a peak level of say 70% and you raise it to 99% then it will be louder at the same volume setting on your stereo. Try it for yourself and see. As for the dither noise, I have software to manage that. But, I've never really noticed it in the first place. And it would be even harder to notice in a live show with the crowd noise.

[rhuss]

Originally posted by cyberhound
And it would be even harder to notice in a live show with the crowd noise.

yes it does raise the volume level, but personally i wouldn't do it. why can't you just raise the volume on your stereo or cd player?

well it depends on the ear that is listening. i've never normalized, but i know people who could tell me if a cd was or not.

[cyberhound]

Originally posted by rhuss
yes it does raise the volume level, but personally i wouldn't do it. why can't you just raise the volume on your stereo or cd player?

well it depends on the ear that is listening. i've never normalized, but i know people who could tell me if a cd was or not.

Well, you could do that as well, but the person complained about the volume level and there are only two ways to fix that, your way or my way. Ideally the person recording the show would try and get the maximum volume level possible during recording. I personally only use normalization if I am making a compilation CD and the volume levels are disparate between the various tracks.

[rhuss]

Originally posted by cyberhound
I personally only use normalization if I am making a compilation CD and the volume levels are disparate between the various tracks.

ah the truth comes out now :D

[shelleypoolooza]

Thanks for all the input. Sorry my reply took so long, but, sick kids and overtime kind of hampered my ability to get back here.

I did listen to the shns on my computer and wouldn't have anticipated a sound level problem.

As for the .wav editing programs, is there any suggestions as to what one or where to find them?

[twostep]

Originally posted by shelleypoolooza
Thanks for all the input. Sorry my reply took so long, but, sick kids and overtime kind of hampered my ability to get back here.

I did listen to the shns on my computer and wouldn't have anticipated a sound level problem.

As for the .wav editing programs, is there any suggestions as to what one or where to find them?

Why do you need to edit anything? Just turn up your volume.

[Donald V]

there should be no need to edit any wav files that weren't taped by you. tapers normally fix a low volume problem themselves before spreading the shns or they leave them as they see fit.

I guess two questions should be asked...what show are you burning to cd? and what program do you use to burn?

Donald :)

[shelleypoolooza]

The last show that I burned was D&T 5-5-2003. We are using the HP CD Writer and the accompanying software that came with it. As for turning up the volume myself, are you referring to the internal computer volume? If you are, exactly which volume option should I be looking at? When I open up volume, it gives me 9 volume options (master out, wave, digital, MIDI, CD audio, line in, microphone, mono and crystal 3D).

[Donald V]

just for kicks try burning with this program called Nero... you can get it here...it has a 30 day trial

www.ahead.de

Donald :)

[twostep]

Originally posted by shelleypoolooza
The last show that I burned was D&T 5-5-2003. We are using the HP CD Writer and the accompanying software that came with it. As for turning up the volume myself, are you referring to the internal computer volume? If you are, exactly which volume option should I be looking at? When I open up volume, it gives me 9 volume options (master out, wave, digital, MIDI, CD audio, line in, microphone, mono and crystal 3D).

turn up the volume when you play the cd. don't do any editing to the files. If you normally listen to your cds on 5 turn it up to 8. that's all there is to it.

[Donald V]

Originally posted by twostep
turn up the volume when you play the cd. don't do any editing to the files. If you normally listen to your cds on 5 turn it up to 8. that's all there is to it.

pretty much...but from the first post it seemed like it was really low...but it wouldn't surprise me

Donald :)