7-16-03 Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion, The Woodlands, TX

[Joe M.]

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7-16-03 Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion, The Woodlands, TX
Casey/Phillips (mk012)(fix) (http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMB%20Summer%202003/dmb2003-07-16.mk012.fix.txt)
Hiles (cm1000) (http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMB%20Summer%202003/dmb2003-07-16.cm1000.txt)
Kacz (mc012)(sonosax) (http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMB%20Summer%202003/dmb2003-07-16.mc012.sonosax.txt)

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[Crumbo]

Just a heads up for everyone: Disc 2 is 80:16...so be careful when burning:cool:

[mmazz72]

Originally posted by Crumbo
Just a heads up for everyone: Disc 2 is 80:16...so be careful when burning:cool:

so, what's being done about this? i mean, if it doesn't fit on the disc...shouldn't it be reformatted by the original taper? is he (they) aware of this? i hope no one's just taking it upon themselves to edit out some crowd noise or something to make it fit.

[BestBuyGuy09]

If its that big a deal to you to lose 16 seconds of crowd yelling than write it to 3 cds

[Crumbo]

Originally posted by BestBuyGuy09
If its that big a deal to you to lose 16 seconds of crowd yelling than write it to 3 cds

put d2t01 on disc 1 and the show fits on 2 discs....problem solved:cool:

[greychris]

Yeah, but don't trade that. His point is it needs to be redone by the taper so that everyone's copy is the SAME. You can't just put Track 1 from Disc 2 on the end of Disc 1 without changing the md5's first. We want the same copies to circulate for everyone.

So, is anything going to be done about this? Anyone know if the tapers know about it?

[mmazz72]

Originally posted by greychris
Yeah, but don't trade that. His point is it needs to be redone by the taper so that everyone's copy is the SAME. You can't just put Track 1 from Disc 2 on the end of Disc 1 without changing the md5's first. We want the same copies to circulate for everyone.

So, is anything going to be done about this? Anyone know if the tapers know about it?

exactly. no, it's not a big deal to lose some crowd noise or move a song, and i may download it and do that for myself. but it shouldn't be traded like that. cutting the time out is going to change the md5's. maybe it's not a big deal to some (perhaps not even to me) but to many, it is. all copies of a show from the same source should be exactly the same when released into the trading pool.

i would suggest that someone find out if the original tapers know about this. then, they should fix it (by moving the song or cutting out some crowd noise during the encore break), and then anyone who has it and wants to trade it should re-download the fixed version. i know it's a pain in the ass to have to re-download a show, but the fact is, the show should never have even been released the way it is.

[mmazz72]

edit: sorry. double posted somehow. couldn't delete it.

[greychris]

Yeah, hopefully they can just move the first track on Disc 2 to the end of Disc 1 and then just change up the md5's for both discs (then we wouldn't need to cut out any crowd noise). Or maybe they'll just cut some noise and just make one new md5. Me being the anal retentive I'd prefer they cut nothing from the show, but I'll let the tapers decide that. :)

[mmazz72]

Originally posted by greychris
Yeah, hopefully they can just move the first track on Disc 2 to the end of Disc 1 and then just change up the md5's for both discs (then we wouldn't need to cut out any crowd noise). Or maybe they'll just cut some noise and just make one new md5. Me being the anal retentive I'd prefer they cut nothing from the show, but I'll let the tapers decide that. :)

yeah, i don't see a big deal about cutting a few seconds out of an 8+ minute encore break. :)

[greychris]

Originally posted by mmazz72
yeah, i don't see a big deal about cutting a few seconds out of an 8+ minute encore break. :)

Haha, I imagine no one is going to listen to the encore anyway right? Yeah, maybe I need to talk to someone about my obsessive compulsive disorder. :)

[Mike]

Casey/Phillips (mk012) Has been pulled from the server. I guess a new version is coming out...re-tracking it.

Mike

[greychris]

Thanks for the heads up Mike. Glad they were able to fix it.

[bmc13]

Could someone post a link to the .ants file for this recording? I downloaded it this morning and tried to download the recording, but I ran into some problems. I deleted the file and when I went back the .ants link was gone. Any help would be appreciated.

[mmazz72]

Originally posted by bmc13
Could someone post a link to the .ants file for this recording? I downloaded it this morning and tried to download the recording, but I ran into some problems. I deleted the file and when I went back the .ants link was gone. Any help would be appreciated.

read about 2 posts above yours. it's been pulled from the server due to tracking problems. most likely, it's being retracked and a new version will be released. just keep checking the server, or this thread, to see what happens next.

and thanks for the info, Mike. :)

[bmc13]

Sorry...read the posts but missed the one about removing it from the server. Thanks for the reply.

[Crumbo]

Attached is the fixed text file done by the tapers.

[Crumbo]

Attached is the fixed md5 for disc 1 done by the tapers.

[Crumbo]

Attached is the fixed md5 for disc 2 done by the tapers.

[Crumbo]

If you have already downloaded this show read these directions:

This source was originally tracked with Cry Freedom beginning disc 2, resulting in a disc slightly over 80 minutes. It has been reseeded by the tapers with that track being moved to the end of disc one.

If you download the corrected text file and .md5 files, all you need to do to match the new seed is rename your d2 tracks. d2t01 becomes d1t10, and then all the tracks on d2 move up one (eg - rename d2t02 to d2t01, etc.)

If you're planning to share this, please make these easy corrections.

[mmazz72]

sweet. thanks. :)

[Mike]

It's fixed and back up.

Mike

[twostep]

not sure how you got the 80:16 but if you put it in your burn program then that time includes the 2 second gaps in between each track. That will be taken care of once you burn it DAO.

It should be fine.

[Crumbo]

Originally posted by twostep
not sure how you got the 80:16 but if you put it in your burn program then that time includes the 2 second gaps in between each track. That will be taken care of once you burn it DAO.

It should be fine.

The original version's Disc 2 was over 80 minutes if you tried to burn DAO. I do know the difference between DAO and TAO but thanks anyway:)

[Mike]

Another source:

Joe: info file uploaded to ya.

Dave Matthews Band
7-16-2003
Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion
The Woodlands, TX

Taper: Justin Kacz
Source: Oktava mc012 (card) > Sonosax SX-M2 > Sony TCD-D8 @ 48khz
Location: Left Stack @ 11Feet High
Conversion: (Fred Goodwin) Tascam DA302-> Hosa Digital-> SEKD Prodif+ ->Samplitude 6.0->Wav->Wavelab 4.0>MKW (.shn)


************************************************** ********************************************
************************************************** ********************************************
************** Please do not convert this show into a lossy format********************
************************************************** ********************************************
************************************************** ********************************************

Disc 1:
01 - Everyday
02 - The Stone
03 - Rhyme & Reason
04 - Song That Jane Likes
05 - #41
06 - Too Much
07 - If I Had It All
08 - Grey Street
09 - Kit Kat Jam
10 - Cry Freedom

Disc 2:

01 - Crush
02 - Stay
03 - Where Are You Going
04 - So Much To Say >
05 - Anyone Seen the Bridge >
06 - Pantala Naga Pampa >
07 - Rapunzel > Encore Break
08 - Digging a Ditch
09 - Two Step

Notes: The levels were smoothed out in wavelab in a couple places where the recording volume was changed while taping.

Entire Set with Butch Taylor on Keys

Thanks to Micheal Lubbering for the use of the D8 and Preamp

Seek Tables appended to files.

Compiled by Jonathan Fletcher on 7/21/03

The MD5 should look like this:

aee9b980bfc36a89c685300e4a4b8c43 *dmb2003-07-16d2t06.shn
eb2e7db8e9fbeff92eb5298bcba540ad *dmb2003-07-16d1t02.shn
2a6e87e58e6f7d64a50ae297b59dfd28 *dmb2003-07-16d1t03.shn
219a2a4fab61cfc10ffd6012a6368557 *dmb2003-07-16d1t04.shn
a937a0c13adda6abb8b28e5c74c781c9 *dmb2003-07-16d1t05.shn
7fbcb231be4eb81751acd3ecc70d47b6 *dmb2003-07-16d1t06.shn
b5cab93f64b16d8df42e97720849ac6f *dmb2003-07-16d1t07.shn
f93f8dc0f5a82ab5c21ee2450037c52e *dmb2003-07-16d1t08.shn
433644cc33663779ec9cdec9913a839e *dmb2003-07-16d1t09.shn
85e2fc74415927997bd18eb41fa34e6d *dmb2003-07-16d1t10.shn
d5a7c8385a4e5163254456cf3d5795fc *dmb2003-07-16d2t01.shn
602dd5fde9e0f657a732ba87436cc21f *dmb2003-07-16d2t02.shn
9fd242499fb5a57700479d95b2215730 *dmb2003-07-16d2t03.shn
de4a1f87e00de9426f5155dd6e2688c2 *dmb2003-07-16d2t04.shn
2e9326ac41de694f4897b645ddb1114d *dmb2003-07-16d2t05.shn
61732fec71595d73f41ff1e4f3174c11 *dmb2003-07-16d1t01.shn
1aea7cbc9e78381c1fa7f3e077161f33 *dmb2003-07-16d2t07.shn
f884da0a2bef99e24be57698ef174651 *dmb2003-07-16d2t08.shn
2999eed8784c7d32885288895108a098 *dmb2003-07-16d2t09.shn

[Mike]

...and another.

Dave Matthews Band

7-16-2003

Cyntia Woods Mitchell pavilion

The Woodlands, TX



Taper: Matt Hiles

Source: Nakamichi CM1000s > Luminous Monarch XLRs > Apogee MiniMe @ 16/44.1 > Sony M1

Right stack, in the Pit

DAT > SHN: Scott brown

Tascam DA-20mkii > Metric Halo Mobile I/O ULN-2 > Apple PowerBookG4 > Spark XL > shntool 1.2.3 > shorten 3.5.1



DO NOT ENCODE TO MP3 OR OTHER LOSSY FORMATS





Disc 1 75:57.28



01 Intro 02:12.19

02 Everyday 08:15.57

03 The Stone 09:29.06

04 Rhyme & Reason 06:28.34

05 Song That Jane Likes 05:12.59

06 #41 12:10.04

07 Too Much 05:47.05

08 If I Had It All 07:07.50

09 Grey Street 06:21.35

10 Kit Kat Jam 06:07.66

11 Cry Freedom 06:42.68



Disc 2 74L09.17



01 Crush 14:09.46

02 Stay 07:01.70

03 Where Are You Going 04:37.67

04 So Much To Say 04:17.16

05 Anyone Seen the Bridge? > 01:27.05

06 Pantala Naga Pampa > 00:36.58

07 Rapunzel 15:48.73

Encore:

08 Digging a Ditch 05:22.45

09 Two Step 20:42.12



compied by scott brown on 7-27-03

[scott brown]

the nak ain't bad at all...

[CBisGOD]

nak = the best live recording I've downloaded!!!

Great Job Yo!

[jonnyp]

Matt Hiles' tape is STELLAR....wow :)