7-09-03 Target Center, Minneapolis, MN

[Joe M.]

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7-9-03 Target Center, Minneapolis, MN
Drews (at853s) (http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMB%20Summer%202003/dmb2003-07-09.at853s.txt)
Fulton (km140) (http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMB%20Summer%202003/dmb2003-07-09.km140.txt)
Meyer (sr71) (http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMB%20Summer%202003/dmb2003-07-09.sr71.txt)
Natelsky (dpa4022) (http://gravedigger.dnsalias.org/DMB%20Summer%202003/dmb2003-07-09.dpa4022.txt)

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[jmay87]

heres the 1st source i've seen

[ShAdOwFaX]

All I have to say is wow, I downloaded a few of the files to check the quality and it is fantastic!!! I highly recommend Chris Drew's taping (I am unaware of any other sources for it)

[ny55525]

Drews recording sounds nice....the bass is a little hot....but it's a clear, crisp source (in terms of the 'highs')....just turn the bass down on your stereo a bit.... :babe

[pr0ud3stm0nk3y]

where can i pick this bad boy up?

[dm40band]

I second that

[Crumbo]

newsgroups:D

[pr0ud3stm0nk3y]

what is the best group for downloading shows and what do you guys use for newsgroups and downloading? MS Outlook is horrible...

[Crumbo]

Originally posted by pr0ud3stm0nk3y
what is the best group for downloading shows and what do you guys use for newsgroups and downloading? MS Outlook is horrible...

I learned everything there is to know about the newsgroups right here:

http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44756

I prefer Grabit over X-news to download and the news group is:

alt.binaries.music.shn.dmb

[pr0ud3stm0nk3y]

thanks much

[pr0ud3stm0nk3y]

drews pull is excellent
not too much bass, not too much crowd
and all the davespeak i wasn't able to hear from section 232

[dr9553]

Only problem i have is that it seems to be compressed like it will be loud then you can hear the volume come down, and also the heavy drum part durring last stop is all crackly.. could just be me.. but sounds like something clipped along the line.. I saw some other stands there so i am hoping another tape gets out soon.

Other then those things, the recording is great!

Donald

[ajnelson4]

Only problem i have is that it seems to be compressed like it will be loud then you can hear the volume come down, and also the heavy drum part durring last stop is all crackly.. could just be me.. but sounds like something clipped along the line.. I saw some other stands there so i am hoping another tape gets out soon.

Other then those things, the recording is great!

Donald

I will have to agree with Donald. The Bass seems a little high and, if not adjusted, there is some cracking. Other than that, a great recording.

[DMB@AlpineRocks]

This recording is amazing. The amount of crowd noise is just perfect (i.e. almost non-existent). You can even hear Dave on the quiet parts (like the soft part in WTWE). I REALLY enjoy this recording. The best possible way to recreate the best 2.5 hours of my life.

[twostone]

Originally posted by dr9553
Only problem i have is that it seems to be compressed like it will be loud then you can hear the volume come down, and also the heavy drum part durring last stop is all crackly.. could just be me.. but sounds like something clipped along the line.. I saw some other stands there so i am hoping another tape gets out soon.

Other then those things, the recording is great!

Donald
At polaris, i ran my bass roll off at 69hz and got some feedback from people saying there was too much, so i raised it a notch to 95hz, and yea i also noticed the clipping during last stop :violent, hopefully ill be upgrading my rig soon :)

EDIT: Also what do you mean about the part where its loud and then the volume comes down, do you have an example from this?

[dr9553]

I guess the most noticble place i noticed it was at the begining of Last Stop. It starts out strong (with clipping, but then dies down so its not as loud.. not sure if this is because of the sound guy waking up and realizing he was running things loud or what..

It also seems to happen in grey street, sounds kinda seems to dip in and out.. instrument wise.. dont know why.. probably i am just being way to fucking picky.. which tends to happen when it comes to anything audio, but thats my life.. so i guess it is not a bad thing.. over all..

Dont get me wrong man.. if i even had half a rig i would tape, and it would probably sound like ass, but i would feel good about the attempt.. I give you props for getting everything togetehr to make a tape that sounds great. Everyone runs into snags here and there, thats life.

Thanks again man for getting this out so quickly and taking the time to check up on what the feedback about your tape.. Cudos to you for everything you have done!

Donald

[twostone]

Originally posted by dr9553
I guess the most noticble place i noticed it was at the begining of Last Stop. It starts out strong (with clipping, but then dies down so its not as loud.. not sure if this is because of the sound guy waking up and realizing he was running things loud or what..

It also seems to happen in grey street, sounds kinda seems to dip in and out.. instrument wise.. dont know why.. probably i am just being way to fucking picky.. which tends to happen when it comes to anything audio, but thats my life.. so i guess it is not a bad thing.. over all..

Dont get me wrong man.. if i even had half a rig i would tape, and it would probably sound like ass, but i would feel good about the attempt.. I give you props for getting everything togetehr to make a tape that sounds great. Everyone runs into snags here and there, thats life.

Thanks again man for getting this out so quickly and taking the time to check up on what the feedback about your tape.. Cudos to you for everything you have done!

Donald
hopefully my gorge tapes turn out a little better :)
But then again, quite a few tapers will be there

[Mike]

Originally posted by pr0ud3stm0nk3y
where can i pick this bad boy up?

Now available here at antsmarching.org as well as on some of the antsmarching.org FTP servers...

Mike

[dm40band]

Originally posted by Mike
Now available here at antsmarching.org as well as on some of the antsmarching.org FTP servers...

Mike

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sorry Mike i had to say it, it sounded like a commercial

[Ccronks]

drews (over drews :p)

[dmband_fan1]

why are people voting for one source when there aren't any others?
can't you code it so they cant vote until two pop up?

either way i'm gonna d/l this one;)

[dr9553]

Got another one for us.. this one is bad ass too...

Dave Matthews Band
July 9, 2003
Target Center
Minneapolis, MN



Taper: Adam Meyer

Source: Earthworks SR71's > Edirol UA-5 (digi mod) > D8 . AB mic configuration, stand at ~15'

Location: Section 112 row E. Left Stack

Transfer: DAT master > CTD8000 DDS-2 > DAT2WAV > wav (Direct DAT extraction, no soundcard)

Editing/Tracking: Sound Forge v6.0d (normalized to 100%)/CDWav 1.74

Conversion: wav > SHNTool > mkwAct > SHN (seek tables appended)
(Ken Mininger ken@mininger.org)

************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************** **************************************
**********************DO NOT CONVERT TO MP3 OR ANY OTHER LOSSY FORMATS!!!!********************
************************************************** ********************************************
************************************************** ********************************************

Disc 1 (71:12.44)

01 - Intro 03:10.59
02 - The Stone 08:46.44
03 - You Never Know 07:47.22
04 - Grey Street 05:59.49
05 - Pig 08:07.27
06 - Pay For What You Get 07:06.05
07 - When The World Ends 04:46.08
08 - Rhyme And Reason 06:40.49
09 - Last Stop 11:01.30
10 - Cry Freedom 07:46.51


Disc 2 (72:39.72)

01 - Fool To Think 04:50.42
02 - Warehouse 08:56.71
03 - Dancing Nancies 10:42.45
04 - Dreaming Tree 10:51.63
05 - So Much To Say > 04:14.48
06 - (Anyone Seen The Bridge) > 01:24.64
07 - Stay 06:58.55
08 - Encore Break 08:06.58
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09 - Grace Is Gone^ 08:46.19
10 - Ants Marching 07:46.57


Notes:

Butch Taylor on Keyes the whole show.

Thanks to Hayden Berard and Craig Willoughby for the tickets! Also, thanks to Duncan Byrd and Ken Mininger for letting me borrow the D8 and Sony 7pin. Last but not least, thanks to Joe Khoroosi for helping me make sure the stand was secured well, and that no drunks were able to pull it over :) .

Compiled by Adam Meyer and Ken Mininger on 7/17/03.


I will be grabbing this one tomorrow and starting it up to the server. All i have from it right now is Last Stop and it sounds amazing!

[dmband_fan1]

how's the meyer recording?

[twostone]

Originally posted by dmband_fan1
how's the meyer recording?
its pretty nice

[dr9553]

its fricking great!

[fulton]

There's a km140>mp2>mme source soon to be floating around if Mr. Willoughby ever finishes uploading. Look for that one, you won't be disappointed.

Fulton

[dmband_fan1]

listening to anyoneseenthebridge:

drew's has more bass and tends to have problems the earlier posts mentioned but still great sounding
meyer's sounds great but doesnt have the bass that drew's has...

you really cant go wrong with both unless you like your recordings much louder in which case you'd want to get meyer's..

[twostone]

Originally posted by dmband_fan1
listening to anyoneseenthebridge:

drew's has more bass and tends to have problems the earlier posts mentioned but still great sounding
meyer's sounds great but doesnt have the bass that drew's has...

you really cant go wrong with both unless you like your recordings much louder in which case you'd want to get meyer's..
You think meyers is much louder than mine? I think mine seemed louder to me.

[TwoStep51901]

drews is by far much louder than meyer's

[Mike]

Here is another making its way around:

Dave Matthews Band

7-9-03

Target Center

Minneapolis, MN



Taper: Marc Natelsky

Source: DPA (B&K) 4022s > EAA PSP2 > Apogee AD1000 > HHB PDR1000

2nd row, ortf, off center

DAT > SHN: Scott Brown

Tascam DA-20mkii > Metric Halo Mobile I/O ULN-2 > Apple PowerBookG4 > Spark XL 2.8 > shntool 1.2.3 > shorten 3.5.1



DO NOT ENCODE TO MP3 OR OTHER LOSSY FORMATS



Disc 1 68:58.10



01 Intro 00:52.67

02 The Stone 08:45.54

03 You Never Know 07:49.15

04 Grey Street 05:53.72

05 Pig 08:04.23

06 Pay For What You Get 07:11.24

07 When the World Ends 04:50.21

08 Rhyme and Reason 06:39.62

09 The Last Stop 11:00.39

10 Cry Freedom 07:48.08





Disc 2 72:46.44



01 Fool to Think 04:50.22

02 Warehouse > 08:34.51

03 Dancing Nancies 11:05.21

04 Dreaming Tree 10:52.10

05 So Much to Say 04:13.02

06 Anyone Seen the Bridge? 01:26.08

07 Stay 15:00.52

Encore:

07 Grace is Gone 08:50.56

08 Ants Marching 07:50.60



notes: this is sort of an onstage noise/monitor tape



compiled by scott brown on 7-26-03

[dandtrock]

where can I find these new sources?

[SayBye627]

Here's another one:

Dave Matthews Band
July 9, 2003
Target Center
Minneapolis, Minnesota


Taper: Jeff Fulton
Source: Neumann AK40> Neumann LC-3 Active> Neumann KM100> Sound
Devices MP2 > Audio Magic Presto XLR > Apogee Mini Me (44.1,16)> Sony M1

Conversion by: Craig Willoughby <craig@marchingant.net>
Conversion: DAT > SHN: Sony M-1 > Emagic EMI 2|6 > Apple iBook > Sound
Studio 2.0.7 > shntools


Disk 1
1. Intro
2. The Stone
3. You Never Know
4. Grey Street
5. Pig
6. Pay For What You Get
7. When the World Ends
8. Rhyme and Reason
9. Last Stop
10.Cry Freedom

Disk 2
1. Fool To Think
2. Warehouse
3. Dancing Nancies
4. Dreaming Tree
5. So Much To Say >
6. Anyone Seen The Bridge >
7. Stay
8. Encore Break
9. Grace is Gone
10.Ants Marching


compiled by Bill Bess 8/1/03

[dandtrock]

wow, fulton has my vote for best pull of this show. Amazing recording :D

[dmband_fan1]

after listening to three different sources i really like fulton's

[amesfan02]

is fulton's pull availalble for download on the ants server?