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YknSTONE
09-13-2003, 06:39 PM
ok, so i bought one of these inexpensive tuners which im really liking it!....
Yesterday i put on some new strings(Elixer's, light)i have a Taylor110Gb..BTW, and then tuned my guitar with my *New Tuner(Korg) BUT it sounds "OFF" still even though it's tuned EADGBE.......
and then on the CA-30..i noticed that it has a "Calibration"(Reference Pitch),
(up/down) buttons. it defaults to 440Hz.....??..which i have no clue what that is, do i need to set my Hz lower or higher on my tuner for the sound that i want? Anyone have a suggested Hz to have it set at?.........or is it my New strings?...
Please Help!....
-Peace
adamstcyr
09-14-2003, 03:07 PM
In 1939, an International Conference met in London and unanimously adopted 440 Hz as the standard frequency for the pitch A4, and that is the almost universal standard at present. Previously, the standard was A=435 (fixed, Paris Academy, 1859, as diapason normal; and confirmed, Vienna conference, 1885, as international pitch). The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) broadcasts a precise 440 Hz reference tone on its short wave radio station WWV (Along with time data). In the 1800's there was also Philharmonic Pitch, that of the London Philharmonic Orchestra. It varied from 1826, were A=433 Hz, and in 1845, was raised to A=455 Hz. Historically it has ranged from A=403 Hz to 567 Hz. !!!
In many places the pitch standards in actual use were strongly influenced by the way large permanently-installed pipe organs were tuned. Yet, of all the mechanical devices used to generate musical frequencies the vibrating air column of the pipe organ is the most sensitive to changes in temperature. Their frequency would therefore depend on what the temperature happened to be when they were adjusted.
Handel's tuning fork has been discovered to have a frequency of 422.5 Hz for that A, and the eras of Hayden, Mozart, Bach and Beethoven had pitch standards around that frequency. This means that their compositions are now played about 70 cents sharper than the originals.
-- the normal human ear can detect the difference between 440 Hz and 441 Hz.
The ability to change the tuning reference from 440 Hz on a tuner allows one to adjust their tuner to an other instrument's (without the ability to quickly retune, i.e., piano or organ) tuning reference. If the A4 on the piano or pipe-organ at the American Legion is actually 435 Hz, you can adjust your tuner to use this as a standard and then tune your guitar with it normally. For tuning down 1/2 step you could adjust your tuner's reference frequency to 415.3 Hz and then tune normally (E A D G B E), but you would be actually tuned to D# G# C# F# Bb D#. An adjust to 392 Hz would be one (whole) step down, then 370 Hz, 349.23 Hz, etc.
Hope that clears it up for you :)
BTW, I have a Korg CA-30 and I really like it.....esp. for how inexpensive it was/is. I think I paid $12 at GC.
So in short, you want to leave it at 440 hz because that is concert pitch.
PilotC150
09-14-2003, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by adamstcyr
Hope that clears it up for you :)
I hope that was said in jest. Because I'm sure he is just more confused than ever now.
Anyway, just give your strings time to adjust to being stretched out, then tune it to the tuner like you always have. New strings will just sound different. That's all there is to it.
YknSTONE
09-14-2003, 07:12 PM
Ok so just leave it at 440Hz....right?!.....thank y'all very much...i wish my strings were like 2 months old i hate New Strings sound!...GRRRRRrrrr
-Peace :cool:
P.S "adamstcyr" thanks for that history of that Very interesting!
The Floodzone
09-15-2003, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by YknSTONE
ok, so i bought one of these inexpensive tuners which im really liking it!....
Yesterday i put on some new strings(Elixer's, light)i have a Taylor110Gb..BTW, and then tuned my guitar with my *New Tuner(Korg) BUT it sounds "OFF" still even though it's tuned EADGBE.......
and then on the CA-30..i noticed that it has a "Calibration"(Reference Pitch),
(up/down) buttons. it defaults to 440Hz.....??..which i have no clue what that is, do i need to set my Hz lower or higher on my tuner for the sound that i want? Anyone have a suggested Hz to have it set at?.........or is it my New strings?...
Please Help!....
-Peace
Maybe off on a tangent here, but, when I played a 110 I noticed that it was sounding a little off even when it was tuned. Maybe it was just the one I played, but it was one of the things that made me pick my 214 over it.
Chris
adamstcyr
09-15-2003, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by The Floodzone
Maybe off on a tangent here, but, when I played a 110 I noticed that it was sounding a little off even when it was tuned. Maybe it was just the one I played, but it was one of the things that made me pick my 214 over it.
Chris
maybe because it's a laminate back and sides
SnkeSkiner
09-18-2003, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by adamstcyr
maybe because it's a laminate back and sides
Doubt it.
Play a couple songs and retune. Retune and jam then retune. Eventually yours strings will stay in tune.
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