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FPrefect61
05-17-2004, 12:01 AM
Where do you get this from? She speaks German, and I believe that she was planted in CTU as a mole from the beginning.
Matt, was there any mention of Nina's past in that House Committee book?

Matt
05-17-2004, 07:51 AM
Matt, was there any mention of Nina's past in that House Committee book?
I'm sure there was, but it's been a while since I've read it last, so I'm not positive what the details were. However, I think something like this would ring a bell had I read it. I'm fairly certain that she was planted as a deep cover mole from day 1.

dobyblue
05-17-2004, 08:05 AM
This would make sense, given the scope of what she was prepared to do.

Dancing Ants
05-17-2004, 08:50 AM
it's nice to be a fan of a show that doesn't have it's season finale in the first week of may. :thumbsup.

Pipsqueak
05-17-2004, 08:30 PM
Where do you get this from? She speaks German, and I believe that she was planted in CTU as a mole from the beginning.


I just finished Season 2 this weekend.

At the beginning of the season, when Jack is interrogating her, she mentions that she was approached for the plans for CTU, etc....(for the bombing)

There was never an answer as to why/how she speaks German and Arabic in Season 2....
Now I haven't seen the first 2/3rd of Season 3, so I don't know her dialogue for that....(I do know she dies...just not how, so don't tell :D )


Anyway....I've watched all of Season 1 and 2 now over the past 15 days...so it's pretty fresh in my melon..... :p so I do know she mentions that she "was approached."

bdfresh62
05-17-2004, 10:26 PM
I know they WILL probably do this but, I hope they will tie the Nina and her German ties into whats happening now with Saunders. It seems to me right now they aren't tying Saunders in with Max from a season ago. But you never know....

malonestar
05-17-2004, 11:46 PM
I just finished Season 2 this weekend.

At the beginning of the season, when Jack is interrogating her, she mentions that she was approached for the plans for CTU, etc....(for the bombing)

There was never an answer as to why/how she speaks German and Arabic in Season 2....
Now I haven't seen the first 2/3rd of Season 3, so I don't know her dialogue for that....(I do know she dies...just not how, so don't tell :D )


Anyway....I've watched all of Season 1 and 2 now over the past 15 days...so it's pretty fresh in my melon..... :p so I do know she mentions that she "was approached."

Her whole involvement with the "Patriots" bombing CTU in season 2 is a side-bar to who Nina really is. Her involvement in that is peripheral to who she really was and who she really worked for.

ziggyosk
05-18-2004, 11:55 AM
I know they WILL probably do this but, I hope they will tie the Nina and her German ties into whats happening now with Saunders. It seems to me right now they aren't tying Saunders in with Max from a season ago. But you never know....
I'm sure they will soon!

FPrefect61
05-18-2004, 12:40 PM
I'm sure they will soon!
They'd better, there are only 2 episodes left. :lol

Mark
05-18-2004, 12:43 PM
i told my wife that if she goes in to labor next tuesday between 10pm and 11pm, then she is going to have to wait. she has waited 9 months, another hour won't kill her, right?

dm40band
05-18-2004, 09:15 PM
are we all in shock or did i miss something??? nothing in this thread since 12:45 EST, thats a first i guess this episode was speechless i don't see it for another 2 hours :(

FPrefect61
05-18-2004, 09:17 PM
Jack, you're an evil, evil man.

jmay87
05-18-2004, 09:17 PM
wow so far its been sweet, i bet the ending is amazing

FPrefect61
05-18-2004, 09:26 PM
Hey, I just realized the guy with Wayne played one of the homosexuals in "The Shawshank Redemption". I think his character was Boggs, the head one who got beaten up by the head guard.

schmenencke
05-18-2004, 09:38 PM
Hey, I just realized the guy with Wayne played one of the homosexuals in "The Shawshank Redemption". I think his character was Boggs, the head one who got beaten up by the head guard.
Good call. I knew I recognized him from somewhere.

He reminds me so much of Carl too (physically).

This episode is shaping up quite nicely.

schmenencke
05-18-2004, 09:56 PM
Sherri's going to die.

MDworsak
05-18-2004, 09:57 PM
daaaaammmmmmmnnnn

FPrefect61
05-18-2004, 09:58 PM
Fuck me!

FPrefect61
05-18-2004, 09:58 PM
Now we know how they're going to tie up all the loose ends.

Everyone dies!!!

schmenencke
05-18-2004, 10:00 PM
Wow. Wow. Wow.

This week. Wow.
Next week. Wow.

Wow.

Mark
05-18-2004, 10:00 PM
damn that was good.

Mark
05-18-2004, 10:01 PM
only 1 more week :( :(

FPrefect61
05-18-2004, 10:03 PM
Jesus H. Christ...

bdb23
05-18-2004, 10:03 PM
Amazing!!!!

Quote of the evening: "When your daughter is infected, I'm going to make you watch her die."

scoot_14
05-18-2004, 10:04 PM
Amazing!!!!

Quote of the evening: "When your daughter is infected, I'm going to make you watch her die."

Yes, that was very well delivered. Keifer is the man.

bdb23
05-18-2004, 10:05 PM
Yes, that was very well delivered. Keifer is the man.
Ruthless Bauer from Keifer. Perfect.

Mark
05-18-2004, 10:06 PM
keifer does a voice over for the new ford f150 commercials. :thumbsup

JonTheRvelator
05-18-2004, 10:12 PM
ok screw those losers who told us their would be no major cliffhangers at the end of this season.

I see a huge cliffhanger on the horizon.

DMBeener
05-18-2004, 10:16 PM
crap. just wow. *insert jawdrop smiley here*

I smell a cliffhanger too. There's too much to wrap up in just one hour.

bdfresh62
05-18-2004, 10:27 PM
Yeah I agree. There HAS to be a cliffhanger. Good episode. I am glad that Sherri died. I hated here. I can't until next week.

dm40band
05-19-2004, 12:56 AM
i thought the music when Tony walks down the hall of CTU was simply amazing.... damn this show fucking rocks!!! :) so experts how is it gonna end?

bdfresh62
05-19-2004, 01:05 AM
Its going to end with a clock ticking.

Crumbo
05-19-2004, 01:28 AM
Amazing!!!!

Quote of the evening: "When your daughter is infected, I'm going to make you watch her die."

:thumbsup

dm40band
05-19-2004, 02:05 AM
Its going to end with a clock ticking.


:lol original really original

Matt
05-19-2004, 07:18 AM
I sure hope there is a cliffhanger. We've been so spoiled these first two seasons. I mean, right now, they have Saunders in custody, they have 10/11 vials secure, and from the previews, it looks as if they find the 11th. IMO, I'm not necessarily excited for anything in the finale. Unless they bring back Max/Mandy. :) And there HAS to be a reason they kept showing Palmer's wrist all season long. Here's to hoping they do.

Edit: And it also looks like my prediction was correct: Saunders will not die. :)

Mark
05-19-2004, 07:25 AM
who is max and/or mandy ?

schmenencke
05-19-2004, 08:42 AM
who is max and/or mandy ?
If I remember correctly:

Max, guy on the boat from season two.
Mandy, blew up the plane in season one and shook Palmer's hand at the end of season two.

Dancing Ants
05-19-2004, 08:48 AM
who is max and/or mandy ?


I think alot of people assume that Max is the guy behind everything of the last three seasons. Mandy is a female terrorist.

minigunmorgan
05-19-2004, 08:58 AM
burn in hell sherry. my only regret about her death is that i couldnt kill her myself.

seantrantham
05-19-2004, 09:20 AM
She was a whore!! :)

Gary
05-19-2004, 10:44 AM
Great episode, however gps cannot work underground like that.

FPrefect61
05-19-2004, 10:50 AM
I'll be the first to say, I'm gonna miss Sherry. Her character was so well written, and so deliciously evil.

Still, it was gratifying seeing her pumped full of lead. :)

dobyblue
05-19-2004, 12:08 PM
Great episode. Your right Callery delivered again during Tony's walk into CTU which I thought was brilliant. It reminded me so much of Jack walking into CTU at the beginning of season 2 all unshaven. Excellent stuff.
I thought the best scene last night was Jack, Stephen and Jane at the hotel. Powerful stuff.
No idea what will happen next week but it should be good.

EDIT - Ms. Palmer got what was coming to her.

EDIT2 - regarding David's wrist - I have noticed that all season too. Right from the beginning of episode 1 they showed the wrist. No idea why though, the only logical reason would be to have Mandy as the 11th carrier and Saunders lied about the physical description. I would love to see the return of Mandy - sexiest.terrorist.ever.
I would be surprised if Max does not have a mention in next weeks episode though.

It sure has been a fun ride!

Matt
05-19-2004, 12:10 PM
Great episode. Your right Callery delivered again during Tony's walk into CTU which I thought was brilliant. It reminded me so much of Jack walking into CTU at the beginning of season 2 all unshaven. Excellent stuff.
I thought the best scene last night was Jack, Stephen and Jane at the hotel. Powerful stuff.
No idea what will happen next week but it should be good.
Unfortunately, I have a pretty good idea of what will happen next week. They defuse the device which holds the last vial. Exciting? Nope. Hope I'm wrong? Hell fucking yes.

FPrefect61
05-19-2004, 12:11 PM
I thought the best scene last night was Jack, Stephen and Jane at the hotel. Powerful stuff.


For a second there, I thought she would actually go in there... We all know Jack would have done it if he had to.

Hey, Kim wasn't in last night's episode at all, was she?

dobyblue
05-19-2004, 12:12 PM
Hope I'm wrong? Hell fucking yes.
Moi aussi mon frere, moi aussi.

See additional edit

Mark
05-19-2004, 12:23 PM
For a second there, I thought she would actually go in there... We all know Jack would have done it if he had to.

Hey, Kim wasn't in last night's episode at all, was she?
i thought jack was going to put her in as well.

no, kim was only in the background of one scene.

bdfresh62
05-19-2004, 12:53 PM
i thought jack was going to put her in as well.

no, kim was only in the background of one scene.

Yeah I believe she was in the scene when Tony was walking through CTU.

EMCD41
05-19-2004, 02:45 PM
anyone know where i can download last night's episode?

FPrefect61
05-19-2004, 02:49 PM
suprnova

Mark
05-19-2004, 03:15 PM
suprnova
:banned


;)

FPrefect61
05-19-2004, 03:29 PM
:banned


;)
It's been said in this thread already!! :lol

Matt even mentioned it's the numero uno dl there. :)

DMBandude88
05-19-2004, 03:32 PM
I'll be the first to say, I'm gonna miss Sherry. Her character was so well written, and so deliciously evil.

Still, it was gratifying seeing her pumped full of lead. :)


make me the second...i have this strange love for Sherry. First of all, Penny (the actress) is fantastic and I'll sure miss her work. Sherry is just so damn evil, you can't not love her or at least love to hate her. I'm kind of upset that both of the big bitchs are dead within one day. Palmer and Jack must feel pretty good about it though. RIP Sherry :rolleyes:

Anyways...amazing last episode...don't need to go into that. But I would like to mention that the music playing during the previously on... section was some of the best I've ever heard, along with Tony's walk of shame. I'm dreading next week...I really don't want it to end!! I also see no conceivable way of ending this season without some monster of a cliffhanger??! It just doesn't make sense. And Elisha's comment about this season's finale not being very 24-ish is really bugging me. They can't end it like any other "normal" show...can they? I'm thinking this season and S4 will be much more directly related than any other season.

DMBandude88
05-19-2004, 03:42 PM
PS- Kiefer is gonna be on Letterman tonight along with Incubus

FPrefect61
05-19-2004, 03:47 PM
PS- Kiefer is gonna be on Letterman tonight along with Incubus
Thanks for the head's up. :)

airr233
05-19-2004, 08:41 PM
I think its an old episode because I saw Kiefer on Letterman back in March when the show was coming back after its 3 weeks break.

JJPicardo
05-19-2004, 10:30 PM
This season's cliffhanger....

Believe it or not, but Jack will die. Chase has progressed along nicely into a lead character, and so has Kim. There ongoing relationship creates a nice subplot for next season, as well as the pending legal proceedings against Tony.

I heard a rumor not so long ago that Kiefer was not going to be back next season.

My opinion... Jack fails at diffusing the final vial of virus and dies along with several thousand other civilians...

Next season focuses heavily on the public reation to this virus "outbreak." Not very 24ish ala Elisha's comments.

Dancing Ants
05-19-2004, 10:40 PM
This season's cliffhanger....

Believe it or not, but Jack will die. Chase has progressed along nicely into a lead character, and so has Kim. There ongoing relationship creates a nice subplot for next season, as well as the pending legal proceedings against Tony.

I heard a rumor not so long ago that Kiefer was not going to be back next season.

My opinion... Jack fails at diffusing the final vial of virus and dies along with several thousand other civilians...

Next season focuses heavily on the public reation to this virus "outbreak." Not very 24ish ala Elisha's comments.


I'd rather jack not die...but interesting either way.

ziggyosk
05-19-2004, 11:33 PM
If Jack dies I'm bout to split some wigs!!!

airr233
05-20-2004, 09:50 AM
Fox released its next season's lineup in three phrases, june to october, november to january, and january to june. As most shows start in this lineup will start in november and keep on going. 24 won't start untill January and then go all the way untill June. It will be on Monday at 9:00 in the States.

Mark
05-20-2004, 09:57 AM
damn. i really liked it on tuesday nights. and we have to wait until january? :mad:

dm40band
05-20-2004, 02:22 PM
damn Monday at 9pm, not good!!!

bdfresh62
05-20-2004, 02:26 PM
damn Monday at 9pm, not good!!!


:thumbsup

Thats what i'm screaming. Not good at all.

ziggyosk
05-20-2004, 02:27 PM
January BLOWS!!!

Matt
05-20-2004, 03:04 PM
http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271|88313|1|,00.html

2 hour season premier
2 hour mid-season special event
2 hour season finale

All uninterrupted. Unprecedented for a television series.

....But this is no ordinary show.

bdb23
05-20-2004, 04:05 PM
http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271|88313|1|,00.html

2 hour season premier
2 hour mid-season special event
2 hour season finale

All uninterrupted. Unprecedented for a television series.

....But this is no ordinary show.

:thumbsup I do like the sound of this, though.

dobyblue
05-20-2004, 05:22 PM
"'24' is appointment television and we believe that moving it to Monday, creating an event out of it with no breaks in the schedule, will enable the viewer to really get on the ride and experience an event that blows your fucking mind!!!!" Berman says.
I may have altered the article slightly but i think it suits the way I feel about 24 a little more closely. Every Monday with no breaks? Shit I'll give up the Tuesday slot for that sort of commitment. :)

minigunmorgan
05-20-2004, 09:53 PM
2 hours of 24 is going to kick ass. i cant help but think this will be the last season and fox is trying to make 24 go out with a bang. i sure as hell hope not.

i think this season will have a huge cliff hanger. everyone is saying how it all ties up nicely with no loose ends. but id bet my left nut that the last 2 minutes are going to make you blow huge crap chunks in your pants.

The Sean
05-21-2004, 12:21 AM
http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271|88313|1|,00.html

2 hour season premier
2 hour mid-season special event
2 hour season finale

All uninterrupted. Unprecedented for a television series.

....But this is no ordinary show.thats nice and awesome but i'd rather wait those 4 weeks in march than have the show start in january

grrrr. stupid like a fox

nabennet
05-21-2004, 04:25 PM
how many seasons could this show go on? i bet they kill of jack soon.

jmay87
05-21-2004, 05:51 PM
how many seasons could this show go on? i bet they kill of jack soon.
your opinion is invalid, please refrain form posting it anymore :D

nabennet
05-21-2004, 05:52 PM
he said in some interview that anyone could be killed at anytime, even him.

dm40band
05-21-2004, 08:44 PM
your opinion is invalid, please refrain form posting it anymore :D

:thumbsup

flyer3468
05-22-2004, 01:14 AM
I definitly think that would be pretty original to knock off Jack in the middle of a season sometime. Not saying its what I want, but it would make me respect the show even more if they did.

minigunmorgan
05-23-2004, 08:22 AM
i hope chase, kim, chloe, saunders, jane, wayne, and hammond die the next hour.

dm40band
05-23-2004, 04:41 PM
i hope chase, kim, chloe, saunders, jane, wayne, and hammond die the next hour.

no kim please!!!!!! :)

The Sean
05-23-2004, 05:06 PM
kim got unhotter this season. her in S2E1 = jawdrop

FPrefect61
05-23-2004, 05:20 PM
kim got unhotter this season. her in S2E1 = jawdrop
It was the shaggy 12 year old boy haircut that ruined it this season.

Matt
05-23-2004, 07:38 PM
About 48 hours until the event of the year.

airr233
05-23-2004, 08:00 PM
It was the shaggy 12 year old boy haircut that ruined it this season.
I think it is the bangs.

malonestar
05-23-2004, 08:02 PM
kim got unhotter this season. her in S2E1 = jawdrop

Thankfully Michelle stepped in to fill Kim's spot :thumbsup

bdb23
05-23-2004, 08:47 PM
About 48 hours until the event of the year.
New avatar. :thumbsup

jmay87
05-23-2004, 09:20 PM
kim got unhotter this season. her in S2E1 = jawdrop

yeah, whatever happened to the see-through t-shirts alone in the woods Kim :D

FPrefect61
05-23-2004, 10:07 PM
Matt, we should get a forum name change for the final week.

dobyblue
05-23-2004, 10:23 PM
Ah it's so nice to have a Monday off and get straight into the work week knowing that at 9pm my feet will be tapping at 100 m.p.h., pulse accelerated, brow glistening, eyes wide, mouth smiling, folicles of hair at attention.......here comes Jack. This is going to be so excellent. I would have no problem at all knowing that every Monday when I start the work week I have 24 to look forward to. It sure would make Mondays a lot easier.

As for the comments on Kim and her white undershirt when she's at Kevin Dillon's log cabin/house of burlesque - I concur most animatedly. That shot was fantasmic.

Name change? Yes good idea Tom. It may be a while before we all see each other in here again. :(

Mark
05-23-2004, 10:25 PM
Ah it's so nice to have a Monday off and get straight into the work week knowing that at 9pm my feet will be tapping at 100 m.p.h., pulse accelerated, brow glistening, eyes wide, mouth smiling, folicles of hair at attention.......here comes Jack. This is going to be so excellent. I would have no problem at all knowing that every Monday when I start the work week I have 24 to look forward to. It sure would make Mondays a lot easier.



:thumbsup

Matt
05-23-2004, 10:49 PM
Matt, we should get a forum name change for the final week.
Any ideas?

dobyblue
05-23-2004, 11:04 PM
Should be something to do with the last episode I think instead of just a catchphrase/line from the show. No?

The Last Hour?
The Final Hour?
Jack's Last Stand?
Last Vial Standing?
The Clock Stops Here?

hard to think

Mark
05-23-2004, 11:10 PM
Matt, we should get a forum name change for the final week.
shut it

dobyblue
05-23-2004, 11:16 PM
:lol

Yea I suppose that would be a good name Mark. Any other suggestions?

Mark
05-23-2004, 11:17 PM
:lol

i'm drunk. leave me alone

dm40band
05-24-2004, 03:31 AM
Should be something to do with the last episode I think instead of just a catchphrase/line from the show. No?

The Last Hour?
The Final Hour?
Jack's Last Stand?
Last Vial Standing?
The Clock Stops Here?

hard to think

So Matt did u decide?

Dancing Ants
05-24-2004, 08:43 AM
So Matt did u decide?


u have 24 hours, Matt..then Kim dies.

Mark
05-24-2004, 09:41 AM
u have 24 hours, Matt..then Kim dies.
and i am going to make you watch her die.

Mark
05-24-2004, 09:42 AM
i think we all need to stop for a moment of silence at 10pm tomorow night. it is going to be a long summer/fall :(

ziggyosk
05-24-2004, 10:13 AM
I wonder if sherry is really dead? I mean I know she got shot a couple of times, but wouldn't it be crazy if she didn't die. We can't tell for sure that she is dead yet.

The Sean
05-24-2004, 10:37 AM
it is going to be a long summer/fall :(this is true

The Sean
05-24-2004, 10:42 AM
yeah, whatever happened to the see-through t-shirts alone in the woods Kim :Dstupid professionalism.









speaking of professionalism....STOP CHANGING THE FORUM NAME! ITS UNPROFESSIONAL. ON BEHALF OF THE ANTS COMMUNITY, PLEASE STOP!! :evil


(anyone remember that? haha)

The Sean
05-24-2004, 10:44 AM
and i am going to make you watch her die.
i'll be the guard dragging her into the hotel.

Mark
05-24-2004, 11:00 AM
i just saw the preview for tomorrow night.

oh. my. god.

i shit myself during the commercial. i can't imagine what the entire episode will be like.

Mark
05-24-2004, 11:06 AM
ok. who is going to die tomorrow? i think it will be Chase.

Matt
05-24-2004, 11:31 AM
i just saw the preview for tomorrow night.

oh. my. god.

i shit myself during the commercial. i can't imagine what the entire episode will be like.
Did it give away shit from the episode like every other commercial for it does? I particularly like the commercial during the last break of American Idol that shows the last scene of the upcoming episode. Dumbass fox.

Mark
05-24-2004, 11:32 AM
yeah. i caught something that gave anyway one storyline. i obvisously won't say it, but i was kinda pissed.

as excited as i am for tomorrow night now, i really wish i hadn't seen it.

The Sean
05-24-2004, 11:41 AM
i usually dont watch them.
i did watch the one for tomorrow last night on the simpsons but thanks to my ADD i have already forgotten it.

dobyblue
05-24-2004, 11:46 AM
I wonder if sherry is really dead? I mean I know she got shot a couple of times, but wouldn't it be crazy if she didn't die. We can't tell for sure that she is dead yet.
The episode guide on fox.com/24 says that Julie shoots and kills Sherry at 11:56PM, then turns the gun on herself and takes her own life. I think it's safe to say that they are both dead.
Ha ha!
I am trying to avoid the commercials. Less than 36 hours to go!

FPrefect61
05-24-2004, 12:28 PM
I haven't seen any commercials for tomorrow. Hell, I refuse to read this week's TV Guide with the mini-synopsis in it!

FPrefect61
05-24-2004, 01:12 PM
FUCK!!! :(

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=597&e=4&u=/nm/television_24_dc

Mark
05-24-2004, 01:19 PM
ok. here is what i think:

chase dies.

the guy who took over CTU told michelle that if she would have done what tony did, then she should quit right now. i think she quits

tony will be allowed to work with jack for the next hour to help find the 11th vial, and then he is off to jail.

Mark
05-24-2004, 01:20 PM
FUCK!!! :(

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=597&e=4&u=/nm/television_24_dc
:violent :violent

FPrefect61
05-24-2004, 01:25 PM
I don't know what to think now.

I really don't want to see Chase die. I don't really like his character, but they could have done a lot with it.

Tony's been there since the beginning, how could you not love Tony? :( Since Michelle's not coming back, they have to bring back the hot Kim, not this 12-year-old boy look Kim.

I like how they say based on "fielding film offers and is expected to recur next season subject to her availability...

I didn't see her movie, but I heard is wasn't exactly an Oscar caliber film. I think it's safe to say she'll be back.

The Sean
05-24-2004, 01:37 PM
oh no you di'nt. TELL me you didnt just tell me who's going to die.

gahhhhh :BANG :violent :twak

FPrefect61
05-24-2004, 01:39 PM
what clock?
Ah, the memories of this post, posted on 10-21-2003, 12:13 PM :lol

FPrefect61
05-24-2004, 01:39 PM
oh no you di'nt. TELL me you didnt just tell me who's going to die.

gahhhhh :BANG :violent :twak
It's still all just speculation, don't worry!

The Sean
05-24-2004, 01:39 PM
http://www.ryano.net/iraq/?998784

The Sean
05-24-2004, 01:40 PM
Ah, the memories of this post, posted on 10-21-2003, 12:13 PM :lol
:lol :lol ahh yes, pre-obsession

FPrefect61
05-24-2004, 01:42 PM
Wow, it's on the front page of cnn.com

http://www.cnn.com/

Mark
05-24-2004, 01:53 PM
Ah, the memories of this post, posted on 10-21-2003, 12:13 PM :lol
*hangs head in shame*

:lol

Matt
05-24-2004, 01:57 PM
It's all over the fox.com 24 forum as well. Which is why I'm not reading it. :)

FPrefect61
05-24-2004, 02:07 PM
It's all over the fox.com 24 forum as well. Which is why I'm not reading it. :)
"24 Forum" just doesn't sound right. :p

texasdmblvr
05-24-2004, 02:48 PM
okay doby i'll never find you now when you post here.

Dancing Ants
05-24-2004, 03:05 PM
hmm...next season will be very different, i bet. no chase (that's a plus. jack works alone. they should know this), no Michelle (bye hotness), no Tony...who I like alot more now than in S1 when he was the male version of Chloe, Chappelle is dead. Damn...next season will be fresh.

bdb23
05-24-2004, 03:18 PM
Damn...next season will be fresh.

That may not be a good thing, though.

Gary
05-24-2004, 03:20 PM
I won't miss Tony spitting out his yeahs all the time.

ziggyosk
05-25-2004, 12:41 PM
I anyone gives out more spoilers i will hunt you down and kill you!!!

The Sean
05-25-2004, 01:17 PM
I won't miss Tony spitting out his yeahs all the time.i wont miss tony. i never really liked him. maybe it was the character or maybe it was the actor, but i didnt like the way he'd stand, get that look on his face, and as you said, say "yeah" or other phrases.

michelle got to be a real cutie now, i'll miss her



Nice forum title change

FPrefect61
05-25-2004, 01:42 PM
Great name change.

Do you guys realize that there are only 4 people from the first season that are still alive/in the show as of now?

Jack
Kim
Tony
Palmer

I don't remember if I saw the Secret Service guy this season. Am I missing anyone?

Gary
05-25-2004, 01:42 PM
i wont miss tony. i never really liked him. maybe it was the character or maybe it was the actor, but i didnt like the way he'd stand, get that look on his face, and as you said, say "yeah" or other phrases.

michelle got to be a real cutie now, i'll miss her



Nice forum title change
Yeah, his acting got real dull and repetitive towards the second half of s3.

bdb23
05-25-2004, 01:44 PM
It's the same secret service guy from season 1, too.

FPrefect61
05-25-2004, 01:46 PM
It's the same secret service guy from season 1, too.
Yeah, the guy who helped Palmer in season 2 was in season 1, I just don't remember if I saw him this season...

Wait a minute, yes we did. There was a confrontation between him and Palmer a few hours ago, right? He wanted Palmer to leave the L.A. area, but Palmer refused.

bdb23
05-25-2004, 01:46 PM
Yeah, the guy who helped Palmer in season 2 was in season 1, I just don't remember if I saw him this season...

Wait a minute, yes we did. There was a confrontation between him and Palmer a few hours ago, right? He wanted Palmer to leave the L.A. area, but Palmer refused.
Exactly.

Pipsqueak
05-25-2004, 01:54 PM
I tried to avoid the stupid ass Fox commercials.....and I did, until this morning.....

while taking my wife to work, it came on the damn radio.....and with coffee in hand and one of the steering wheel in traffic, it was too late.....

piece of shit.......they need their ass kicked for that BS.

why would you quote/show what is most likely the last or second to last scene.

argh!

dm40band
05-25-2004, 02:04 PM
Yeah, the guy who helped Palmer in season 2 was in season 1, I just don't remember if I saw him this season...

Wait a minute, yes we did. There was a confrontation between him and Palmer a few hours ago, right? He wanted Palmer to leave the L.A. area, but Palmer refused.

yea he's been around he went with Palmer for the meeting with Sherry as well in the last episode

Mark
05-25-2004, 02:22 PM
10pm just can NOT get here fast enough.

Gary
05-25-2004, 02:29 PM
Saw this on IGN regarding commentary tracks:


The Series: 24 - Season Two
The Offense: This one I find hilarious. On the cast commentary, Sarah Wynter keeps calling everyone hot. When she gets to Carlos Bernard, who is also present, Carlos asked her to come closer. Carlos also drops a few F-bombs. This is one of those commentaries that's great to listen to because of that laid back atmosphere.

The one commentary on episode 10 (I think) by Penny Johnson Jerald (Sherry Palmer), She got all excited at one scene, where David Palmer kisses her hand, and Penny goes, "Here's my man, I want my man! I want my Chocolate Hershey Bar!!!"

FPrefect61
05-25-2004, 02:33 PM
I need to go back and watch all the commentary tracks from the second season

Dancing Ants
05-25-2004, 02:48 PM
here's a little 24 trivia. What is Tony's fave baseball team...or assumed fave baseball team? If you answer this...maybe i'll give you something.

bdb23
05-25-2004, 02:50 PM
Cubs. Mug in season 1.

Dancing Ants
05-25-2004, 02:51 PM
haha damn you're good. i don't have anything to give, though.

dobyblue
05-25-2004, 05:31 PM
The Final Hour?
Sweet!! :thumbsup I know that no-one else suggested anything but I'm honoured nevertheless. Cheers!
Great name change.

Do you guys realize that there are only 4 people from the first season that are still alive/in the show as of now?

Jack
Kim
Tony
Palmer

I don't remember if I saw the Secret Service guy this season. Am I missing anyone?
Wasn't agent Baker in season 1? I know the SS dude is there (the red head agent right?) He was great in season 2.

Gary
05-25-2004, 08:05 PM
Wow this thread is dead for a finale night! However I will be waiting for the widescreen pdtv version for maximum enjoyment. :cool:

Yesac820
05-25-2004, 08:27 PM
Well I havent ever posted in this thread but im really excited for this finale

snyddogg430
05-25-2004, 08:32 PM
Is this episode commercial free?

Fasttaurus28
05-25-2004, 08:33 PM
I don't this it is, hope i'm wrong though..

Fasttaurus28
05-25-2004, 08:50 PM
10 min till start!!

can't wait to see what we will be posting in an hour!

FPrefect61
05-25-2004, 08:52 PM
Oh dear Lord I can't contain myself.

Someone get these hideous cows off the screen and put 24 on!

schmenencke
05-25-2004, 09:12 PM
I really don't like the Saunders move.

Saw it coming. Now we'll never know all we could.

Fasttaurus28
05-25-2004, 09:14 PM
I agree, once i saw the wife look at the pictures of saunders i knew she would end oup killing him.

JonTheRvelator
05-25-2004, 09:34 PM
wow.

this has been the best season of the three.

schmenencke
05-25-2004, 09:35 PM
wow.

this has been the best season of the three.
The season has definitely been the best so far.

But I have no confidence in the last half of this episode.

JonTheRvelator
05-25-2004, 09:36 PM
I disagree.

the whole "no cliffhanger" thing is a brilliant move.

JonTheRvelator
05-25-2004, 09:39 PM
see ya chase.

I saw that one coming.

Gerginator
05-25-2004, 09:43 PM
holy shit!

schmenencke
05-25-2004, 09:45 PM
But I have no confidence in the last half of this episode.

I wish to retract this statement.

Wow. Wow. Wow.

FPrefect61
05-25-2004, 09:45 PM
Jesus limb-chopping Christ...

JonTheRvelator
05-25-2004, 09:46 PM
yep.

best show ever.

cavecricket2k2
05-25-2004, 09:46 PM
iuhf urougshdoursoi gtorou

I love this show!

JonTheRvelator
05-25-2004, 09:46 PM
Inside 24 webcast?

ummm thats frickn awesome.

schmenencke
05-25-2004, 09:47 PM
Inside 24 webcast?

ummm thats frickn awesome.
I've never watched one of those.

How are they?

Gerginator
05-25-2004, 09:47 PM
I really had the thought that they would call back right before he did it, and I still cant believe he actualy cut his arm off....

thats definately the definition of taking one for the team...

FPrefect61
05-25-2004, 09:47 PM
To hell with Jack, Chase has had the worst day...

JonTheRvelator
05-25-2004, 09:50 PM
*puts fist in air*

*for tony*

Gerginator
05-25-2004, 09:51 PM
*puts fist in air*

*for tony*
:thumbsup

HERES FOR TONY!

JonTheRvelator
05-25-2004, 09:53 PM
such a commentary on our current events.

simply the the most powerful series ever essembled.

Gerginator
05-25-2004, 09:55 PM
here comes the cliffhanger....

dancinancies090
05-25-2004, 09:57 PM
what!?!?!?!?!!

Gerginator
05-25-2004, 09:57 PM
......WHAAAAAAAAA? how can there not be a cliffhanger!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

JonTheRvelator
05-25-2004, 09:57 PM
best ending yet.

easily.

schmenencke
05-25-2004, 09:58 PM
Greatest show ever.

Wow.

FPrefect61
05-25-2004, 09:59 PM
Absolutely powerful

dancinancies090
05-25-2004, 09:59 PM
chase getting his hand cut up still gives me the chills

scoot_14
05-25-2004, 09:59 PM
Amazing, few shows have ever had such an effect on me (especially ones that are pure fiction). Just wow.

Mark
05-25-2004, 09:59 PM
chase has fucking balls of steel.

what an amazing ending. very powerful and very emotional

schmenencke
05-25-2004, 09:59 PM
Absolutely powerful
That was truly powerful.

I can't that hour. Best season hands down.

Fasttaurus28
05-25-2004, 09:59 PM
Wow what acting!!! I thought for a sec jack was gonna kill himself!

Gerginator
05-25-2004, 09:59 PM
Well that was excellent, still cant figure out exactly why he was crying, but i was bracing myself for a humongous cliffhanger

Mark
05-25-2004, 10:00 PM
Amazing, few shows have ever had such an effect on me (especially ones that are pure fiction). Just wow.
i feel the exact same way.

scoot_14
05-25-2004, 10:00 PM
chase getting his hand cut up still gives me the chills

I knew it would happen and my jaw still hung open for about 5 seconds after...crazy.

schmenencke
05-25-2004, 10:00 PM
still cant figure out exactly why he was crying

Did you see the man's day?

I think I can take a couple of guesses.

JonTheRvelator
05-25-2004, 10:00 PM
he cries because we all cry man.

(I know it sounds corny)

dancinancies090
05-25-2004, 10:01 PM
Wow what acting!!! I thought for a sec jack was gonna kill himself! so did i because of the way he looked at kim

scoot_14
05-25-2004, 10:01 PM
Well that was excellent, still cant figure out exactly why he was crying, but i was bracing myself for a humongous cliffhanger

Bad day at work? Killed his boss, maybe?

Gerginator
05-25-2004, 10:02 PM
well i guess i said that wrong, i can think of a billion reasons why he was crying, i guess i just wondered which one caused him to finally crack down. Definately the best show ever

schmenencke
05-25-2004, 10:02 PM
well i guess i said that wrong, i can think of a billion reasons why he was crying, i guess i just wondered which one caused him to finally crack down. Definately the best show ever
I think it was just the culmination of it all.

He had no time to think the rest of the day, and it all hit him at once when he could finally relax.

dancinancies090
05-25-2004, 10:03 PM
well i guess i said that wrong, i can think of a billion reasons why he was crying, i guess i just wondered which one caused him to finally crack down. Definately the best show ever
i think cause he probably thought about quitting and taking what this job has made him do

Mark
05-25-2004, 10:03 PM
well i guess i said that wrong, i can think of a billion reasons why he was crying, i guess i just wondered which one caused him to finally crack down. Definately the best show ever
i guess because he finally had a spare minute to sit and think about what happened today

CrashNancies41
05-25-2004, 10:03 PM
that was awesome

scoot_14
05-25-2004, 10:03 PM
Keifer definitely deserves whatever awards they give out for acting on TV. That whole series had great acting, some of the best dramatic acting I've ever seen on television.

JonTheRvelator
05-25-2004, 10:04 PM
I thought it was a brilliant statement.

his crying was such a thoughtful way to end it all.

Mark
05-25-2004, 10:04 PM
Keifer definitely deserves whatever awards they give out for acting on TV. That whole series had great acting, some of the best dramatic acting I've ever seen on television.
:thumbsup

by far, the best drama ever.

scoot_14
05-25-2004, 10:06 PM
I think it was just the culmination of it all.

He had no time to think the rest of the day, and it all hit him at once when he could finally relax.

I thought the scene where he was sharing a cup of coffee earlier was all of the poingant moment we were going to get, ending was unreal...yet all too real at once.

I was actually just as moved by the president walking down the hallway at the end, there are truely great people out there like that and I wish we could find them in politics.

Mark
05-25-2004, 10:08 PM
i agree with Scott. the elevator scene was really good.

"mr. president. your motorcade is ready"

JonTheRvelator
05-25-2004, 10:08 PM
I was actually just as moved by the president walking down the hallway at the end, there are truely great people out there like that and I wish we could find them in politics.

There are men and women all over the country who are like this.

Palmer is alot like mostly every president, he symbolizes what the president is to me.

That walk, was the biggest moment for his character in all of the three seasons.

Such a brilliant statement.

Pipsqueak
05-25-2004, 10:10 PM
wow.

although I sat there predicting Saunders being killed, the President resigning, and Chase getting his arm cut off.....

I was BLOWN AWAY.
That was absolutely freaking intense.

holy shit.....
I can't believe I have to wait until January.

cavecricket2k2
05-25-2004, 10:18 PM
I can't believe I have to wait until January.



WHAT!!!!!!!!???!!!?!?!?!?!
:BANG :mad: :violent

Fasttaurus28
05-25-2004, 10:19 PM
Yeah its gonna be a long 6 months! Back to watching the dvds and season 3 on my computer!


oh yeah go Cubs!

jmay87
05-25-2004, 10:25 PM
O WOW, that was aweosme. I dont want to wait until january, DVDs and season 3 downloads will have to tide me over

The Sean
05-25-2004, 10:25 PM
excellent ending. :thumbsup

ziggyosk
05-25-2004, 10:31 PM
what the balls!!!! where is the nutty ending? What about Jack's addiction? What about MAX? MANDY? AHHHHHHHH!!!!! I'm pissed!!!

DMBeener
05-25-2004, 10:40 PM
January is too far away. I'm going to go through withdrawl.

bdfresh62
05-25-2004, 10:42 PM
Man...what an episode. That thing with Chase's hand was so powerful. This was the best season in my opinion. Absolutely brilliant. Next season should be quite different with a new president, maybe no Tony, no Chappelle, maybe no Michelle, maybe no Chase, no Sherri, and no Nina. I also think the season was the most emotional. I'm a guy and I admit to having tears at some points, like when Chappelle gets it and with Chases hand getting cut off. What a great episode to finish a great season.

DMBandude88
05-25-2004, 11:00 PM
PERFECT!!!!

ah jesus...simply amazing. I'd like to say that I am very upset about Sherry's "death"...it's so damn sad. When Palmer found out, I was this close to just crying like a baby. I'll admit this show has made me cry or close to it a few times:
-George talking to his son
-Jack talking to Kim from the plane...saying he was gonna die
-Chappelle's ending
-Gael's wife
-Palmer hears about Sherry
24 is the most powerful thing ever filmed. I've never gotten so into any other show before. I was in nirvana from 9-10pm tonight. JESUS!! Has there ever been a better show?!? I don't think so. Great ending to a great season...perfect...

pepelapag
05-25-2004, 11:18 PM
Man...what an episode. That thing with Chase's hand was so powerful. This was the best season in my opinion. Absolutely brilliant. Next season should be quite different with a new president, maybe no Tony, no Chappelle, maybe no Michelle, maybe no Chase, no Sherri, and no Nina. I also think the season was the most emotional. I'm a guy and I admit to having tears at some points, like when Chappelle gets it and with Chases hand getting cut off. What a great episode to finish a great season.

totally...hands down 24 is the best show in network TV history...what an amazing and perfect cap to the best season so far...it just summarized all of the characters feelings at the final moments...and it left a TON open for next season, which will be 24 uninterrupted episodes...LONG LIVE THIS SHOW!

Matt
05-25-2004, 11:45 PM
best ending yet.

easily.
While I loved this ending, I disagree. :)

Jack Bauer is simply put the greatest cinematic character ever. The level of depth and background put into him is just amazing. If you've been following this series since the beginning, when you saw him cry, I dare you to tell me you didn't cry for him yourself.

However - as fitting as that ending is, in my opinion it doesn't match up with him holding his pregnant, dying wife in his arms at the end of S1. TV wasn't ready for it. I still don't think the full impact of that was fully understood...

JonTheRvelator
05-25-2004, 11:49 PM
true.

but if 24 ended as we know it now, I'd prefer this ending.

The last 2 years have been alot of fun.

Matt
05-25-2004, 11:52 PM
Now...

That episode was incredible. I was hoping with all I had that they would address last season's cliffhangers, or tease us with another one, and anything else would be a complete disappointment.

I was wrong.

Jack crying there, I've never seen acting like that. I thought the heroin battle in Ep. 1 this season was amazing...it didn't touch tonight. Seeing him like that, you think about Teri, about all he has done for this country. All that he has left - It all came down around him on this day:

Tony, his counterpart, is going to jail. He killed his boss. Palmer, one of his only unconditional allies, will not be running for re-election. He is losing a partner in Chase, and partly a mother figure in his daughter (due to Chase and her relationship with him). All for a silent pat on the back by our government. Then when he's radioed in..."I'm on my way."

Jack Bauer defines selflessness. He's a hero, and one that we've had the privledge of learning a lot about, good and bad. He's a broken man, but he won't stop.

Dancing Ants
05-25-2004, 11:52 PM
While I loved this ending, I disagree. :)

Jack Bauer is simply put the greatest cinematic character ever. The level of depth and background put into him is just amazing. If you've been following this series since the beginning, when you saw him cry, I dare you to tell me you didn't cry for him yourself.

However - as fitting as that ending is, in my opinion it doesn't match up with him holding his pregnant, dying wife in his arms at the end of S1. TV wasn't ready for it. I still don't think the full impact of that was fully understood...

i seriously didn't cry. sorry. but it was a great ending...i kept expecting him to turn the key and the car blow up...or Palmer get assassinated going to his motorcade. I liked the ending...very real life-y.

JonTheRvelator
05-26-2004, 12:13 AM
Now...

That episode was incredible. I was hoping with all I had that they would address last season's cliffhangers, or tease us with another one, and anything else would be a complete disappointment.

I was wrong.

Jack crying there, I've never seen acting like that. I thought the heroin battle in Ep. 1 this season was amazing...it didn't touch tonight. Seeing him like that, you think about Teri, about all he has done for this country. All that he has left - It all came down around him on this day:

Tony, his counterpart, is going to jail. He killed his boss. Palmer, one of his only unconditional allies, will not be running for re-election. He is losing a partner in Chase, and partly a mother figure in his daughter (due to Chase and her relationship with him). All for a silent pat on the back by our government. Then when he's radioed in..."I'm on my way."

Jack Bauer defines selflessness. He's a hero, and one that we've had the privledge of learning a lot about, good and bad. He's a broken man, but he won't stop.

To me he has always represented america. I dunno I'm kind of weird. But how he can seem reckless at moments, but in the end do what has to be done. To me when he cries it shows the amount of gutting he has to endure. Kinda of like the only way to defeat evil is to be evil yourself. I'm looking into it alot, but its what I always think when I watch it.

When Jack cries, America cries.

airr233
05-26-2004, 12:49 AM
"24" will open and close with two-hour installments as well as feature a two-hour special event episode in the middle of the season. Said moves are designed so that "24" will be able to run for 21 consecutive weeks beginning in January and close by the end of May sweeps. In addition, several cast changes are in store for the drama. Both Reiko Aylesworth and James Badge Dale have been informed their options for the show's fourth season have not been picked up while Carlos Bernard (Tony), Mary Lynn Rajskub (Chloe), Zachary Quinto (Adam) and Daniel Dae Kim's (Agent Baker) futures remain up in the air (Kim is currently attached to the ABC drama "Lost"). As for regulars Kiefer Sutherland, Dennis Haysbert and Elisha Cuthbert, all three are expected to return with Cuthbert more than likely being demoted to recurring status due to her feature commitments. Nevertheless, fans of the series should take note that in previous seasons Sarah Clarke and Penny Johnson Jerald's options weren't picked up however each went on to play critical roles in both this season and last season.

This is from the Futon Critic.

Gary
05-26-2004, 01:03 AM
Wow. Absolutely amazing episode, especially the drama and music.

However, can't President Palmer pardon Tony for what he did? He did pardon Nina and maybe Sherry if I'm not mistaken, so Tony definately deserves one.

Juan Dixon
05-26-2004, 01:09 AM
Wow. Absolutely amazing episode, especially the drama and music.

However, can't President Palmer pardon Tony for what he did? He did pardon Nina and maybe Sherry if I'm not mistaken, so Tony definately deserves one.

Thats what i was thinking, he should pardon Tony. He has nothing to worry about with it looking bad for reelection.

Gary
05-26-2004, 01:12 AM
Also it was very satisfying for them to take a break from all the action and plot twists for more emotional moments and reflecting.

pepelapag
05-26-2004, 01:36 AM
However, can't President Palmer pardon Tony for what he did? He did pardon Nina and maybe Sherry if I'm not mistaken, so Tony definately deserves one.

it depends bc palmer is saying that he is not running for re-election...so assuming tony is tried and convicted before palmer resigns then there is an option for a pardon...

Gary
05-26-2004, 01:44 AM
This was actually asked on the 24 Inside thing, they basically dodged the question.

Gary
05-26-2004, 02:19 AM
it depends bc palmer is saying that he is not running for re-election...so assuming tony is tried and convicted before palmer resigns then there is an option for a pardon...
Palmer pardoned Nina Myers in advance, before she even committed the crime.

Mark
05-26-2004, 06:59 AM
palmer didn't give tony a pardon because tony won't be back next year.

Dancing Ants
05-26-2004, 08:48 AM
"24" will open and close with two-hour installments as well as feature a two-hour special event episode in the middle of the season. Said moves are designed so that "24" will be able to run for 21 consecutive weeks beginning in January and close by the end of May sweeps. In addition, several cast changes are in store for the drama. Both Reiko Aylesworth and James Badge Dale have been informed their options for the show's fourth season have not been picked up while Carlos Bernard (Tony), Mary Lynn Rajskub (Chloe), Zachary Quinto (Adam) and Daniel Dae Kim's (Agent Baker) futures remain up in the air (Kim is currently attached to the ABC drama "Lost"). As for regulars Kiefer Sutherland, Dennis Haysbert and Elisha Cuthbert, all three are expected to return with Cuthbert more than likely being demoted to recurring status due to her feature commitments. Nevertheless, fans of the series should take note that in previous seasons Sarah Clarke and Penny Johnson Jerald's options weren't picked up however each went on to play critical roles in both this season and last season.

This is from the Futon Critic.

I was sad about Palmer...that would suck to have him drop out of the race in real life. I think S4 will be really cool.

FPrefect61
05-26-2004, 10:13 AM
I really don't know what to say about last night. I think Matt said it best. :)

Mark
05-26-2004, 10:21 AM
did we ever find out why saunders wanted chappelle dead? was it just because ryan was good at his job and he might catch saunders?

Mark
05-26-2004, 10:22 AM
did anyone notice this:

when michelle was telling brad (is that the name of the guy who took over ctu?) that they found the car. she said it was a light blue malibu.

when tony got to the desk, adam said that it was a light green malibu. which is what the color was.

The Sean
05-26-2004, 10:25 AM
yes and yes. the color thing confused me but maybe those colors are close enough to be hard to tell. who knows

Gary
05-26-2004, 10:53 AM
palmer didn't give tony a pardon because tony won't be back next year.
From the writers' standpoint that is true, but it doesn't change the fact that he could pardon him. Doesn't mean he has to come back, but at least keep him from getting the death penalty or life in prison.

jmay87
05-26-2004, 12:18 PM
did we ever find out why saunders wanted chappelle dead? was it just because ryan was good at his job and he might catch saunders?
i thought it was becuase he was really close to finding him through the bank transactions

Mark
05-26-2004, 12:22 PM
so, will thread remain stickied now that the season is over?

dobyblue
05-26-2004, 12:30 PM
Absolutely brilliant ending. I was really pleased with the final few minutes. Tony and Michelle were great. Jack just releasing so much stress and tension. Look at what he's been through the last 24 hours!!! It was a very emotional episode. Chase played his scenes very well.

I know I recognised the guy with the last vial though. Maybe it wasn't from 24?

Brilliant music during the elevator-calvacade split screen. Sutherland really did strike gold this season in my humble opinion.
I strongly agree with the following two quotes, as well of course as everything the rest of you fine people (Mark, Tom and the usual 24 suspects!) have said. Vivre le 24!
Jack Bauer defines selflessness. He's a hero, and one that we've had the privledge of learning a lot about, good and bad. He's a broken man, but he won't stop.
yep.

best show ever.

Mark
05-26-2004, 12:32 PM
i am going to have to download last nights show just so i can watch the ending again.

Mark
05-26-2004, 12:53 PM
a writer for the Toronto Sun didn't think too much of last nights episode

http://www.canoe.ca/Television/may26_last-sun.html

DMBfan41
05-26-2004, 04:22 PM
its Canada, what do they know?

I thought it was awesome last night.

I think that Palmer won't be there since he's not running again. They have to have Chase on the floor next season. Everyone wants to know what will happen to him next.

Only question is, how can Jack Bauer save the day again and is he still the same man that he once was? He's supposed to be a man of steel and nothing ever gets to him. But, him crying at the end was very powerful.

I think the Day 2 finale was the best though.

dobyblue
05-26-2004, 05:17 PM
My response to that writer of the Sun that I just sent off via e-mail.

Dear Bill Brioux,

I'm sorry that you saw such a horrific episode that caused you to write such a cynical review of last night's episode.

The reason Theresa Ortega was able to kill Saunders was obviously because everyone was so involved with trying to find the last vial. She did not "flip out" as you so eloquently put it, but rather seemed calm and very much in control of what she was doing.

Due to the central control room being 4 stories underground, there really isn't need for "armies of secret service" units to be around the president. Kyle, the president's number one secret service bodyguard, is never more than 30 seconds away even this far underground in a location where the security topside is only rivaled by Fort Knox.

If you watched 24 on a regular basis you would note that the cinematography quite often uses shots that never stay still. It is not surprising in the slightest that Kiefer, amongst many other characters, will get a 360 camera shot. Jon Cassar's fingerprints were all over this episode.

I believe it's a device that is locked to Chase's wrist, not a devise.

The subtitle of your article reads "Anti-climactic season finale of 24 leaves us ticked." One can only assume that people watch shows they enjoy. 24 winning an Emmy shows that people are watching and enjoying it's third and best yet season. If I wanted to know whether or not a finale had left fans of the show "ticked" or let down in any way I might check various websites that have forums for fans to discuss each episode on. Thus last night I would have discovered that almost 100% of the 24 websites' posters thoroughly enjoyed last night's episode and felt it was the best season yet.

I'm afraid that your attempts and humour in this article failed miserably. Your review was neither subjective, informative nor amusing.

Regards,

Steve Burke

The Sean
05-26-2004, 05:29 PM
awesome. you should try to get that in the editorials section

SideshowRob
05-26-2004, 07:05 PM
Why didnt they just stick the vile/explosive underwater in that fishtank... would the virus survive underwater to be spread once it hits the surface? eh, who knows, but this season was very good and that crackhead editor doesnt kno what hes talking about and that letter by one of our guys is very well-written. They totally set up the next season as well. Im sure that the "Courier" that jack is sent to interview has an underground plot to end the United States or something and 24 is reborn in its fourth season... and might I add... that Kim Bauer is the most beautiful woman in the world... i think Elisha Cuthbert is as dumb as a post... but Kim Bauer is the greatest girl in the world... she will be mine... oh yes, she will be mine

The Sean
05-26-2004, 07:18 PM
no mention of Max or Kingsley...hmmmm...

SideshowRob
05-26-2004, 07:29 PM
no mention of Max or Kingsley...hmmmm...
who is Max and Kingsley??

Dancing Ants
05-26-2004, 08:56 PM
Max is the guy on the Yacht at the end of Season 2. Kingsley was the guy orchestrating the whole Nuke plan and all that in Season 2. Max was Kingsley's boss, or so it is supposed.

SideshowRob
05-26-2004, 09:02 PM
i didnt get the whole plotline that incorporated Max at the end of the the 2nd season... it seemed pointless... as did the whole conspiracy between The President and that dude that croaked w/o his pills

Dancing Ants
05-26-2004, 09:05 PM
One of 24's greatest things is that they can run many storylines at once. Max is THE key, or so we all think, to everything that has happened starting with Season 1. The whole pills thing will shed more light next season, with Palmer being a civilian again.

Beefsteak1138
05-26-2004, 09:08 PM
I kinda chuckled at this one:

12:46 : Jack spots an axe behind glass in the classroom and chops off Chases hand. It's his left hand, but that still doesn't make it right. Bauer steals his watch, grabs the deadly devise and shoves it into a staffroom refrigerator. It goes off, spoiling several sandwiches.

snyddogg430
05-26-2004, 09:09 PM
Maybe this has already been addressed in this thread, but I'm too lazy to look back. Whatever happened with the guy who left the hotel and went to several places (the ER, the pharmacy, etc.) and possibly infected people. The last thing I remember is CTU talking about how its spread to several unknown people. If I'm not mistaken, did they just drop that from the storyline?

Dancing Ants
05-26-2004, 09:15 PM
i guess we should assume he got picked up in the quarantine or something...hell if i know.

snyddogg430
05-26-2004, 09:22 PM
Yeah I just thought he spread it to other people who left the ER. Just found it weird that nothing was said of it afterwards.

bdb23
05-26-2004, 10:23 PM
All very similar to when Gaines called Jamie on her cell in S1 after she "committed suicide." Nina and Tony ended the episode pondering whether to answer the phone. Next episode, they didn't even pick up with that "cliffhanger."

ziggyosk
05-26-2004, 11:46 PM
no mention of Max or Kingsley...hmmmm...
Kingsly is Dead. He died at the end of Season 2 when the SWAT unit in the helicopter took him down. Max however is still out there, and will somehow resurface. I wish he did in the finale, but guess I'll wait till S4.

Pipsqueak
05-26-2004, 11:54 PM
My response to that writer of the Sun that I just sent off via e-mail.

Dear Bill Brioux,

I'm sorry that you saw such a horrific episode that caused you to write such a cynical review of last night's episode.

The reason Theresa Ortega was able to kill Saunders was obviously because everyone was so involved with trying to find the last vial. She did not "flip out" as you so eloquently put it, but rather seemed calm and very much in control of what she was doing.

Due to the central control room being 4 stories underground, there really isn't need for "armies of secret service" units to be around the president. (passive voice) Kyle, the president's number one secret service bodyguard, is never more than 30 seconds away even this far underground in a location where the security topside is only rivaled by Fort Knox. (sounds like you are the one 4 stories underground)

If you watched 24 on a regular basis you would note that the cinematography quite often uses shots that never stay still. It is not surprising in the slightest that Kiefer, amongst many other characters, will get a 360 camera shot. Jon Cassar's fingerprints were all over this episode.

I believe it's a device that is locked to Chase's wrist, not a devise.

The subtitle of your article reads "Anti-climactic season finale of 24 leaves us ticked." One can only assume that people watch shows they enjoy. 24 winning an Emmy shows that people are watching and enjoying it's third and best yet season. If I wanted to know whether or not a finale had left fans of the show "ticked" or let down in any way I might check various websites that have forums for fans to discuss each episode on. Thus last night I would have discovered that almost 100% of the 24 websites' posters thoroughly enjoyed last night's episode and felt it was the best season yet.

I'm afraid that your attempts and humour in this article failed miserably. Your review was neither subjective, informative nor amusing.

Regards,

Steve Burke

While I admire your leadership in taking a stand against this critic's naive review, I warn you to not correct one's spelling unless you are ready to bear the repercussions of your own spelling/grammar/capitalization/punctuation mistakes.

At any rate, I'm hoping you corrected the above prior to sending your letter or removed the line calling-out the critic's spelling error.

It just always makes me laugh when I read a criticism of spelling. :BANG :lol ;) Heck, I probably misssspseelled something myself. It seems inevitable.

I guess we'll let you off the hook since you're from Canada. ;) (just rattling your cage) :devil

dobyblue
05-27-2004, 09:07 AM
While I admire your leadership in taking a stand against this critic's naive review, I warn you to not correct one's spelling unless you are ready to bear the repercussions of your own spelling/grammar/capitalization/punctuation mistakes.

At any rate, I'm hoping you corrected the above prior to sending your letter or removed the line calling-out the critic's spelling error.

It just always makes me laugh when I read a criticism of spelling. :BANG :lol ;) Heck, I probably misssspseelled something myself. It seems inevitable.

I guess we'll let you off the hook since you're from Canada. ;) (just rattling your cage) :devil
Very well, but I wasn't correcting the spelling. I was correcting the use of a word. Devise is as much a word as device, but the two have very different meanings. Humour was not misspelled. It is misspelled every day in USA where they have also changed the spellings of colour and favourite. I'm not sure why and have never been offered a valid reason as to why the US changed the English language. Do you know?
Believe me though, writers for The Sun would not be able to fault a single error in my e-mail. They have erroneous grammatical errors everyday!
Thanks for the corrections though, especially the passive voice. I'm aware that I do that a lot. I think of Rodney Dangerfield who said "I wrote my English teacher a love letter, she corrected it!"
:)

dobyblue
05-27-2004, 09:22 AM
:lol :lol
So I just checked my e-mail. Here is the response from Bill Brioux.
Thanks for your e-mail, Steve. I don't write the headlines, just the stories. That spelling mistake--totally my fault.
I thought last night's 24 was far less intense and exciting than the last two 24 season-enders. That presidential bunker office has been unbelievable all season to me. In fact, the whole Palmer storyline was a miss this year.
My mail today has been pretty much split 50-50 for and against the ending. If it worked for you, great. The good news is that 24 will be back next January.

Cheers,
Bill
:) I have to say I was rather surprised to get such a quick response and one so neutral as well. Not bad Bill.

bdfresh62
05-27-2004, 10:54 AM
My response to that writer of the Sun that I just sent off via e-mail.

Dear Bill Brioux,

I'm sorry that you saw such a horrific episode that caused you to write such a cynical review of last night's episode.

The reason Theresa Ortega was able to kill Saunders was obviously because everyone was so involved with trying to find the last vial. She did not "flip out" as you so eloquently put it, but rather seemed calm and very much in control of what she was doing.

Due to the central control room being 4 stories underground, there really isn't need for "armies of secret service" units to be around the president. Kyle, the president's number one secret service bodyguard, is never more than 30 seconds away even this far underground in a location where the security topside is only rivaled by Fort Knox.

If you watched 24 on a regular basis you would note that the cinematography quite often uses shots that never stay still. It is not surprising in the slightest that Kiefer, amongst many other characters, will get a 360 camera shot. Jon Cassar's fingerprints were all over this episode.

I believe it's a device that is locked to Chase's wrist, not a devise.

The subtitle of your article reads "Anti-climactic season finale of 24 leaves us ticked." One can only assume that people watch shows they enjoy. 24 winning an Emmy shows that people are watching and enjoying it's third and best yet season. If I wanted to know whether or not a finale had left fans of the show "ticked" or let down in any way I might check various websites that have forums for fans to discuss each episode on. Thus last night I would have discovered that almost 100% of the 24 websites' posters thoroughly enjoyed last night's episode and felt it was the best season yet.

I'm afraid that your attempts and humour in this article failed miserably. Your review was neither subjective, informative nor amusing.

Regards,

Steve Burke

Isn't his body guards name Aaron?

Matt
05-27-2004, 12:27 PM
The last 5 minutes of this episode are so good. I just watched again, and I'm blown away by how well done it was. In today's world of more action, bigger explosions, better special effects....they choose to twist our stomachs with (in my opinion) the second most emotional scene ever. (The first being Jack holding his pregnant dying wife in his arms as the clock ticks - that will never be touched.)

dobyblue
05-27-2004, 01:51 PM
Isn't his body guards name Aaron?
:lol heh heh - I was winging it!

bdb23
05-27-2004, 02:44 PM
The last 5 minutes of this episode are so good. I just watched again, and I'm blown away by how well done it was. In today's world of more action, bigger explosions, better special effects....they choose to twist our stomachs with (in my opinion) the second most emotional scene ever. (The first being Jack holding his pregnant dying wife in his arms as the clock ticks - that will never be touched.)
Very well put. I waited 2 days now to let the whole episode sink in before posting about it. At first, I was a bit pissed. I missed the suspense associated with a season-finale. Everything was a bit predictable at some point or another. I initially felt let down with the ending, too. Seemed as if too many major characters were done away with at some point during the season. I felt pissed that there was no connection made with the season 2 cliffhanger (Max) and any of season 3. I thought "at least give us a hint."

Now, after revisiting the episode, I don't feel as cheated. I do think there was plenty more that they could have done with the episode and the characters. I feel we finally got a look at the real Jack Bauer at the end. The man who's life has been destroyed to put it simply. His wife was murdered, his daughter was kidnapped/lost numerous times, he has lost 3 bosses (one by his own hand), he has a heroin habit, etc. At the end of S3 I felt bad for Jack b/c he's done so much but he has nothing to show for it. He can't get close to anyone (see Kate Warner) b/c of his job and b/c he can't get close to anyone he has nothing but his job. A totally catch-22 situation that he can't get out of.

Overall, this season was pretty damn spectacular. The show will have to do a lot to make up for some of the character changes that happened this season so that has me worried. But basically it kept me interested the entire season and has me longing (7 months worth) for more.

Matt
05-28-2004, 11:34 AM
Alright, I'm going to unsticky this. It's going to be a long 6 months but we'll stick it out! Hopefully we can keep this thread near the top, anyway. :)

Mark
05-28-2004, 11:35 AM
Alright, I'm going to unsticky this. It's going to be a long 6 months but we'll stick it out! Hopefully we can keep this thread near the top, anyway. :)
see.. if it was me, i would keep it stickied just to see all the non-24 fans get all worked up.

:lol