Official 24 Discussion (Greatest Show Ever)

[JimiThang1]

hmmm mine is the same res too...its centered but needs to come back to the left a little

[FPrefect61]

It's more yellow, but could be a bit brighter.

The font's totally different now too.

[Ben F.]

Tom is the font closer to authentic? It looks closer than v1 did on mine. I also went with a color on 1.1 that was closer to the color of those attachments I gave [which were just captured from s3 DVD].

[JimiThang1]

You need to try one of these fonts on this page:

http://www.musicaecomputer.com/fonts/englishcomputer_-_digital0002.htm

These are almost perfect matches.

[Ben F.]

You need to try one of these fonts on this page:

http://www.musicaecomputer.com/fonts/englishcomputer_-_digital0002.htm

These are almost perfect matches.
Fittingly- I'm not sure the true-type fonts want to cooperate with flash mx. I installed the ds digital bold italic [which looks almost perfect] and it won't show up.

I've logged enough hours on this today. Maybe I'll give it another whirl tomorrow.

[FPrefect61]

Tom is the font closer to authentic? It looks closer than v1 did on mine. I also went with a color on 1.1 that was closer to the color of those attachments I gave [which were just captured from s3 DVD].
It may just be my computer, but the font looks totally wrong. It looks like Times New Roman.

[dobyblue]

Tom - sweet avatar. I just watched the trailer on The Village DVD.

I'm so glad they picked Martin Freeman as Arthur Dent - he's perfect.

[FPrefect61]

Tom - sweet avatar. I just watched the trailer on The Village DVD.

I'm so glad they picked Martin Freeman as Arthur Dent - he's perfect.
It's just the teaser trailer, right? No film clips?

I can't wait for the movie, May 6th can't get here soon enough!

[cwsrule88]

good thread :) i could watch 24 all day long

[DMBeener]

Monday is almost here! :thumbsup

[The Sean]

Monday is almost here! :thumbsup
ummm, isnt that my avatar?

[Noles20]

Monday is almost here! :thumbsup

Big ups to Glenside PA!

Abington or Cheltenham????

[bdb23]

ummm, isnt that my avatar?
:lol

[dobyblue]

It's just the teaser trailer, right? No film clips?

I can't wait for the movie, May 6th can't get here soon enough!
Yea just the teaser with no vid clips. There's some pics online from the set though of Martin and Mos Def.
ummm, isnt that my avatar?
No - yours doesn't look like Jack spent all day at the tanning salon instead of haranguing people to know where the sniper/bomb/virus/Secretary of Defence is.

Note those are in order of Season. :)

[JimiThang1]

Brian Grazer said tonight during the Golden Globes preshow that the episodes coming up spanning 2pm-4pm are some of the best 2 hours on TV. Can't wait!

[The Sean]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=794&e=3&u=/eo/20050116/en_movies_eo/15718



Fox's drama series in which special agent Jack Bauer races against the clock to save the world for terrorism, has angered America's Muslim community by its portrayal of a Muslim family as a terrorist sleeper cell at the heart of a dastardly plot.

In response to the complaints from the Council of American-Islamic Relations the network has agreed to a modest mea culpa issuing stations that air the show with public service spots that depict the American Muslim community in a positive light.

"We met with representatives of CAIR on Wednesday and found the meeting productive and informative and we look forward to working with them in the future," was the only statement Fox (accustomed to complaints about the content of its programming) issued about the issue.

On www.cair-net.org CAIR thanked Fox for "the opportunity to address the Muslim community's concerns and for the willingness of network officials to take those concerns seriously in an atmosphere of mutual respect and co-operation." The organization also stated "network representatives said they had already reviewed existing episodes and removed some aspects that could potentially be viewed as stereotypical."

On previous seasons of 24, which is headlined by Kiefer Sutherland as Bauer, the terrorists have included both Eastern Europeans and rogue US agents. This fourth season the main terrorists are a Muslim dad, mom and teenage son. Even before the first four episodes premiered this past Sunday and Monday as a heavily promoted "2" day, "4" hour event, a DVD, released in issues of an entertainment magazine in order to hype the premiere, had riled up CAIR. The organization's concerns escalated when the premiere episodes aired and at 10:39 A.M in the fourth episode the mother Dina Araz (portrayed by Iranian born actress Shohreh Aghdashloo, Best Supporting Oscar nominee last year for House of Sand and Fog) was depicted poisoning her son's non-Muslim girlfriend because she thinks the girl might jeopardize their plans.

Rabiah Ahmed, a spokeswoman for CAIR, told Reuters, the protest was an effort to counter the stereotypical depiction of Muslims on television, which studies show influence public perception of her community. Civil rights abuses and hate crimes against Muslims have reportedly escalated since the 9/11 attacks, and surveys commissioned by CAIR show that more than 40 percent of Americans think its okay because of the war on terror to curb Muslims' civil rights.

"What we are hoping to do is to try and mitigate the damages of the stereotypes because it can bring real-life consequences on American Muslims and their lives here," Ahmed said. She backed up her argument by citing a public opinion survey conducted by Cornell University last year and stating, "There aren't any positive or even neutral portrayals of Muslims on TV; whenever Muslims or Arabs are portrayed it is always in a stereotypical way."

The show's creative and executive production team attended the meeting along with Fox representatives.

E!Online calls to the producers' office were referred back to the Fox spokesperson.

CAIR has requested the public service announcements, sponsored by their organization, be aired in proximity to 24 which airs Mondays (9 p.m. ET/PT). However its up to local station managers to choose if and when to run the 30 and 60 second spots, which reportedly state, "Muslims are part of the fabric of this great country and are working to build a better America."

[Dancing Ants]

why do they get mad. accept that some faction of your people killed and are killing thousands of people.

[bdb23]

Um, I think we need a forum name change.... :24

[Ben F.]

why do they get mad. accept that some faction of your people killed and are killing thousands of people.
I guess they have a problem with the airing of an idea that is a reality. I see no problem with what Fox has done. It's a perfectly feasible scenario.

I guess no matter who they choose, they're going to get some section from that group that is offended by it. Their problem is, their own kind are the ones most publically responsible for the 'terrorism' as of late - I guess they are ignoring it, and expect the rest of us to also.

[dobyblue]

Weren't the Brits in an uproar about the whole Saunders' thing? ;)

[DMBeener]

ummm, isnt that my avatar?
I had it first! :p I posted about it a week or two ago, but I guess you never caught it.

[The Sean]

why do they get mad. accept that some faction of your people killed and are killing thousands of people.
its stupid. the terrorists have been european for 3 years. now they finally put more of a reality spin on it and those pussies start cryin. fuck them.

[The Sean]

I had it first! :p I posted about it a week or two ago, but I guess you never caught it.
interesting. ive had this since the 9th.

[DMBeener]

interesting. ive had this since the 9th.
Doing a search in the thread shows I posted about it on the 10th, but I can't seem to link the post. Yours looks much better, I'll let you keep yours and I'll change mine to something else. :)

[The Sean]

haha. we both changed ours, but i'll go back to it :thumbsup:24

[Ben F.]

6 hours 10 minutes :24

[dmb1spe]

5 hours 57 minutes :24

[Ben F.]

I accidentally saw some frames from tonight's episode in Fox's preview during the football game yesterday. For those that saw it, read on for my prediction.

















**** potential spoiler for e5 below****













I saw the yellow truck that the terrorist hijacked running head on into a mack truck. I'm hoping Jack plays chicken [driving the mack] and rams that fucker. :24 Damn I can't wait.























*****end spoiler material*****

[caudio51]

One Hour, Twenty Minutes.

[Mel4AU]

30 minutes :D

[asmjm39]

damn east coasters get to see it first

[dmb1spe]

Looking good so far... :24

[dmb1spe]

Holy crap balls... what to do Jack... what to do?!?!

[FPrefect61]

He is out of his goddamned mind.

[caudio51]

He is out of his goddamned mind.

thats for sure

[dmb1spe]

If by out of his mind you mean "have huge testicles" then yes.

[dmb1spe]

Looks like Jack is kicking some terrorist ass next week. Incidentally, I thought the shows were commercial free?

[Ben F.]

Awesome. Jack has to go in solo and try to save his woman with laser guided doom on its way. :24

[boredtotears]

If by out of his mind you mean "have huge testicles" then yes.
:thumbsup massive cahones man, lol. Jack's one crazy bastard.

[FPrefect61]

If by out of his mind you mean "have huge testicles" then yes.
His balls are quite large, there's no doubt about that.

Basketball sized.

[dmb1spe]

Awesome. Jack has to go in solo and try to save his woman with laser guided doom on its way. :24
That should definitely get him some anal.

[dmb1spe]

His balls are quite large, there's no doubt about that.

Basketball sized.
You can always tell where walks... because of the large ruts.

[DMBfan41]

Ah damn it. Another 167 hour break.

[The Sean]

oh baby! cant wait till next week.

i think its a given that audrey is gonna die (IMO)

[DMBfan41]

no way. They aren't killing another hottie.

Is Chloe gone for good or is she gonna come back? That's what I wanna know

[dreamingtree15]

I don't know, I see Audrey surviving, Heller not. Just my thoughts.

[Ben F.]

Audrey will not die (not this early), and I think Chloe is done.

[Dancing Ants]

If Audrey dies..I don't see Jack getting back into the action, therefore I say she lives. I can't wait to see Jack's one man assault on this fortress. Gonna be sweet.

[The Sean]

good point on the hottie factor

[DMBfan41]

I don't know, I see Audrey surviving, Heller not. Just my thoughts.

i agree with that. Someone important has to die

[dreamingtree15]

And I'm thinking Chloe is definetly gone for good, I just don't see a scenario in which she would come back. She seemed to accept her firing pretty well.

[gravedigger13]

Whoops.

***If you taped this episode, MINOR SPOILERS ahead.***











You know, I understand that Jack's gotta do some crazy shit, but every episode, he obeys the orders that are given to him.

Before he was let go by the cops, I turned to my dad and said in a humorous tone, "Boy, I can't wait to see how he gets out of this one." I wasn't expecting that to happen.

Again, I can't wait until next Monday.

[DMBfan41]

he's falling in love with her. He is gonna go Rambo on all their asses

[FPrefect61]

I'm actually sad that Chloe's gone. Last season she was a pain. This season she was cool.

[dmb1spe]

If she comes back I hope she's topless

[DMBfan41]

You know, I understand that Jack's gotta do some crazy shit, but every episode, he obeys the orders that are given to him.

Before he was let go by the cops, I turned to my dad and said in a humorous tone, "Boy, I can't wait to see how he gets out of this one." I wasn't expecting that to happen.

Again, I can't wait until next Monday.

i was surprised that it went that quick. I thought it would've been something if they took him into the station and he had to get out of it.

[DMBfan41]

I'm actually sad that Chloe's gone. Last season she was a pain. This season she was cool.

not to mention, she's one of the few hotties left. Debby's in a garbage bag now. Chloe's gone for now (hopefully not for long) All that's left is Audrie. So, she can not die

[dreamingtree15]

Yeah, I was expecting more out of the whole Jack getting arrested thing, but he does have some authority I guess. :)

[FPrefect61]

I dunno, I never saw Chloe as a hottie. :lol

Though I didn't know she had a pretty nice and athletic body.

[Ben F.]

I'm actually sad that Chloe's gone. Last season she was a pain. This season she was cool.
:ugh

I couldn't wait for them to axe her. When she ended with 'amateur' on her way out, wow that blew.

[dreamingtree15]

I just can't get past her rat face. Whenever she scrunches it up, I shudder.

[boiii]

you heard it here first: the strike on the building and coverup were planned my the martyr arabs. theyll expose the us governments lies to the public (like that other flight on sept11). that'll cause real chaos.

but the question remains.
whats in the briefcase.
and whos the non-arab guy that audrey recognized.

cheers.
ken

[Mel4AU]

and whos the non-arab guy that audrey recognized.

cheers.
ken
doesn't he look familiar outside or the 24 realm?

[DMBfan41]

:ugh

I couldn't wait for them to axe her. When she ended with 'amateur' on her way out, wow that blew.

she's just a dork. But, I love her for it.

[DMBfan41]

You know, I was thinking of making a soundtrack for 24 during the episode. And, then at the end of the show I see they made one. I totally wanna get that. I wanna drive around blasting that thrilling music around

[Dancing Ants]

:ugh

I couldn't wait for them to axe her. When she ended with 'amateur' on her way out, wow that blew.

she should have said "n00b"...then left.

[dreamingtree15]

Does anyone know who the guy was that Audrey recognized?

[Dancing Ants]

who's the girl that plays Driscoll's daughter? she's very familiar.

[Matt]

who's the girl that plays Driscoll's daughter? she's very familiar.
Tennis player from Phenom, also which William Devane starred in? (her coach)?

[DMBfan41]

Wow, I tried to get to Chloe's website.

"The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later. "

[Dancing Ants]

Tennis player from Phenom, also which William Devane starred in? (her coach)?

haven't seen that...hmm.

[DMBeener]

24 soundtrack. oh yeah :thumbsup

[Matt]

Thought it was her: http://imdb.com/name/nm0324462/

Not listed...looks like her though.

[DMBfan41]

Thought it was her: http://imdb.com/name/nm0324462/

Not listed...looks like her though.

wow! she's 27? On 24 she looks like she's 16

[Mel4AU]

Thought it was her: http://imdb.com/name/nm0324462/

Not listed...looks like her though.
that girl is much more attractive. driscoll's daughter is a lot weirder looking. kind of albino-ish.

[Barkeep]

"Hi, Kathy Sanders"
"Still me Kathy"

[Ben F.]

By the way, props to Behrooz - when Debbie's phone was ringing- I expected Mr. Araz to pull Debbie's mom in and put a bullet in her head on the spot.


Oh, and, obviously Jack is going in. It would be un-24-like if he were to go in and save the day saving both Heller and Audrey, and single handedly foil the entire plot. Someone is going to escape, and they're going to have the briefcase, Audrey, or Heller.

[Barkeep]

No way Chole is gone and out of the season just like that, we'll see her again a few hours later in the day. I also predict Heller will escape but will be dead before 3:00pm.

[DMBfan41]

My prediction, someone gets away with the briefcase, Jack saves Audrey. Heller dies

As for Behrooz, he better kill his parents before they kill him.

[Dancing Ants]

By the way, props to Behrooz - when Debbie's phone was ringing- I expected Mr. Araz to pull Debbie's mom in and put a bullet in her head on the spot.


Oh, and, obviously Jack is going in. It would be un-24-like if he were to go in and save the day saving both Heller and Audrey, and single handedly foil the entire plot. Someone is going to escape, and they're going to have the briefcase, Audrey, or Heller.

i think it'll be white guy + audrey + briefcase...at the end of next week's teaser, jack looks at her and says "we'll come back for you" or something to that effect. The white guy is the "she recognized me" guy. All terrorist are die.

[Dancing Ants]

My prediction, someone gets away with the briefcase, Jack saves Audrey. Heller dies

As for Behrooz, he better kill his parents before they kill him.

i think behrooz is going to escape and tell the authorities...it'd be cooler to see him kill them though. or tell debbie's mom what happened.

[DMBfan41]

the "she recognized me" guy will get killed by the leader

[Dancing Ants]

the "she recognized me" guy will get killed by the leader

possilby. i could see Jack breaking in, wasting a bunch of terrorists, then shooting the leader, with Heller in tow. Audrey is captured by the white guy, with gun to her head, etc...he chunks her in a car and they haul ass...Heller didn't recognize him, just Audrey. Also...do we know who the leader is? Is it Behrooz's father, or this other guy?

OR Max?

SEASON 2 SPOILERS










The Max Factor would come into play here. He said at the end of S2 "the operation starts today" or something...and then Mr and Mrs. Araz keep talking about how they have been working on this mission for a long time, etc etc..don't blow it Behrooz!









END SPOILERS

[Barkeep]

I'm still unsure as to what part Aisha Tyler's character, Marianne Taylor, will play. I'm figuring just a little sub plot drama that has only a small part to play in the outcome of the events.

[DMBfan41]

OR Max?

SEASON 2 SPOILERS


The Max Factor would come into play here. He said at the end of S2 "the operation starts today" or something...and then Mr and Mrs. Araz keep talking about how they have been working on this mission for a long time, etc etc..don't blow it Behrooz!


END SPOILERS

You may be right! Didn't season 3 happen 3 years after season 2? And then season 4 happened 1 1/2 years after season 3? And I thought that Mr. and Mrs. Araz said about 4 years they've been working on this.

[Dancing Ants]

I don't remember the Araz's saying a specific time frame..but it seems very coincidental when you think about it.

[Dancing Ants]

also...with the missle hitting the place in 8 minutes...the first 8 minutes of next week may be the best in the whole series. DAMN.

[Ben F.]

...at the end of next week's teaser, jack looks at her and says "we'll come back for you" or something to that effect. Next time please pre-empt a comment like this with a spoiler warning, thanks.

[Dancing Ants]

Next time please pre-empt a comment like this with a spoiler warning, thanks.

yes master. did someone here not watch the show?

[Ben F.]

I said please. It wasn't a command. Yes I watched the show- but the little 'scenes from next week's episode' are not part of the show.

I just consider it a spoiler - all I ask is the common courtesy of pre-empting potential spoiler content with a warning. Grow up.

[Dancing Ants]

fine. Spoiler people.

[joepsu0985]

What is up with beatruse...he is backing his parents now. I though for sure he was going to shoot his mom this time.

[Dancing Ants]

What is up with beatruse...he is backing his parents now. I though for sure he was going to shoot his mom this time.

are you new to the show? Behrooz won't do anything till at least midseason.

[Trippin4136]

I said please. It wasn't a command. Yes I watched the show- but the little 'scenes from next week's episode' are not part of the show.

I just consider it a spoiler - all I ask is the common courtesy of pre-empting potential spoiler content with a warning. Grow up.

Well I'm glad I stopped scrolling up. Don't want to read anything in this thread now. Thanks spoilers. Some people do not like seeing the previews for next week (I am one too). People should respect that.

[timmyt23]

*****POTENTIAL SPOILER*****































There is more planned for this day as well. Don't forget that as they were about to start the webcast, the terrorists were talking about how that was just the beginning. There is definitely more planned for this day other than killing Heller.

[dtddmbfan]

Three VCR's did not work.... what are the odds - did anyone record this, and is there anyway i can get a copy of it? any ideas?

bit torrent would be great, but i dont know if that happens...

pm or email me if anyone has any ideas, any help is greatly appreciated

Thanks

[Noles20]

Well I'm glad I stopped scrolling up. Don't want to read anything in this thread now. Thanks spoilers. Some people do not like seeing the previews for next week (I am one too). People should respect that.

Yea, I think its a good idea to stay away from this thread. The last thing I want is for the suspense to be ruined. The suspense makes the show.

[Dancing Ants]

*****POTENTIAL SPOILER*****

There is more planned for this day as well. Don't forget that as they were about to start the webcast, the terrorists were talking about how that was just the beginning. There is definitely more planned for this day other than killing Heller.

obviously. we got 19 hours left buddy!

[timmyt23]

Three VCR's did not work.... what are the odds - did anyone record this, and is there anyway i can get a copy of it? any ideas?

bit torrent would be great, but i dont know if that happens...

pm or email me if anyone has any ideas, any help is greatly appreciated

Thanks
Last week, Ben F. was able to find the torrents up pretty quickly, and posted them in here. When they are available, I'm sure someone will post them in here.

[Ben F.]

S4 e5

torrentspy.com

[dtddmbfan]

Last week, Ben F. was able to find the torrents up pretty quickly, and posted them in here. When they are available, I'm sure someone will post them in here.


Thanks man... me and my fiance were in a panic... :eek

[Crumbo]

filler episode :shrug

[The Sean]

filler episode :shrug
true, but it was still good

[FPrefect61]

This may be a stretch here, but a 24 "filler" episode as you call it, is like the album Everyday, not their best work, but still better than 99% of the other crap out there.

[caudio51]

S4 e5

torrentspy.com

sometimes I enjoy downloading them, then watching without commercials

[Ben F.]

It wouldn't be believable if there were no 'filler' episodes ;). Next week Jack goes in to save the woman he's falling in love with - alone. Rest assured next week will more than make up for this week.

[Dancing Ants]

It wouldn't be believable if there were no 'filler' episodes ;). Next week Jack goes in to save the woman he's falling in love with - alone. Rest assured next week will more than make up for this week.

with 8 minutes before a missile obliterates the place. ;)

[YknSTONE]

no no no, you guys got it wrong...hes gonna call the president while he inside shooting terrorists and call off the missile attack. :lol

[timmyt23]

This is all speculation, I haven't read anything about next week, so this is not a spoiler, just a guess.

Behrooz is going to turn on his parents at some point, and help the authorities find the terrorists. Marianne has alterior motives, but I believe that in the end she will end up being an asset to the CTU. Heller will be killed, but the daughter will be alive , but taken by the white guy, I thinkthis is where Behrooz may come in to help find out who and where he is.

[dmb1spe]

Damn this show is good. If it were a woman I would do it over and over again. In the butt. With no rubber.

[Matt]

Man, if that was a filler episode, all such should be that good. That was intense, I loved it!

[Mark]

but the question remains.
whats in the briefcase.



i think that it has the nuclear launch codes

[seantrantham]

I think it has the Marsellus Wallace's soul in it

[asmjm39]

I never should have started watching this, now Mondays cannot come soon enough, it was much easier just to advance to the next episode on the DVD

[gravedigger13]

i think that it has the nuclear launch codes

That's what I think.

Also, **MILD SPOILERS**














Looks like Heller gets waxed next week. Would this surprise anyone?

[Matt]

Also, **MILD SPOILERS**

NO.

If I see another spoiler for a future ep. you're bounced. I'm tired of dealing with this.

[Ben F.]

How about guesses, based only on past episode events? (ie- leave any 'preview for next week's episode' info out)

:lol

[asmjm39]

does anyone here watch the previews?

[Ben F.]

Obviously they do. I do not - I even change the channel if I'm watching Fox and one comes on. Same goes for Lost on CBS.

[asmjm39]

I could not NOT watch the preview

[willnole]

I love the previews but I don't want to see any other spoilers. The previews never really show you anything you don't already know is going to happen.

[Matt]

Alright from now on:

Use the spoiler tag - basically it's {spoiler}Spoiler text here{/spoiler} but replace the { } with [ ].

Example:
See? :)

[Ben F.]

Holy shitballs.

[bdb23]

Alright from now on:

Use the spoiler tag - basically it's {spoiler}Spoiler text here{/spoiler} but replace the { } with [ ].

Example:
See? :)
:thumbsup to Bauer.

[Sh()cker]

Alright from now on:

Use the spoiler tag - basically it's {spoiler}Spoiler text here{/spoiler} but replace the { } with [ ].

Example:
See? :)


That's pretty sweet...gotta give props for making that.

[willnole]

Mark is a Dick

[Ben F.]

Mark is a Dick :lol

[Ben F.]

I found the font I need: http://www.fonts.com/findfonts/detail.asp?pid=405829 That is absolutely it. It just costs 42 dollars.

I just bought one for 2 dollars that was similar, but it's not an exact match. The one does have the little hook though.

[willnole]

I must admit I kinda made that spoiler up.

[The Sean]

hey matt, i'm experiencing some problems. when i click the quick reply button, it brings me to the Post Reply page, instead of bringing it down to the quick reply box. also, i cant enter any text in the Post Reply page. is this because of the new changes?

[dobyblue]

Man, if that was a filler episode, all such should be that good. That was intense, I loved it!
Agreed. Different swooshing windows in this episode though which I noticed. Not the usual rising crescendo at the end but more just a case of
"Jack don't go in there - missiles will soon be on their way." The look in Jack's eyes was unmistakable. I gotta get my woman outta there!!!!

[Matt]

Agreed. Different swooshing windows in this episode though which I noticed. Not the usual rising crescendo at the end but more just a case of
"Jack don't go in there - missiles will soon be on their way." The look in Jack's eyes was unmistakable. I gotta get my woman outta there!!!!
Yeah, the whole sequence when you saw the look strike in Jack's face, you KNEW what was going through his head. That's why having the 3 prior days under your belt benefits the viewer. We know how Jack thinks, so that scene was that much more enjoyable.

[bdb23]

Yeah, the whole sequence when you saw the look strike in Jack's face, you KNEW what was going through his head. That's why having the 3 prior days under your belt benefits the viewer. We know how Jack thinks, so that scene was that much more enjoyable.
If you could see inside his head I'm sure you would have seen the last scene from season 1. He was probably thinking "not again!!"

[clayj41]

Solid episode last night. I now have everyone I live with hooked on 24.

[Ben F.]

I emailed fox inquiring about a 24 clock screen saver.

[DMBfan41]

24 News

Jack Bauer's going to have to call in the reinforcements to get through this one.

Facing heat over how Muslims are depicted in its countdown thriller series 24, Fox is working to mend fences before time's up.


The latest season of the Fox drama, which kicked off a week ago, stars Kiefer Sutherland as special agent Bauer. His latest race against the clock to save the world from terrorism has angered America's Muslim community by its portrayal of a Muslim family as a sleeper cell at the heart of a dastardly plot.


Rabiah Ahmed, spokeswoman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, told Broadcasting and Cable that the show is "taking everyday American Muslim families and making them suspects...It's very dangerous and very disturbing."


In response to the complaints, the network has agreed to a modest mea culpa--offering a public service spot to its affiliates that depicts the American Muslim community in a positive light.


"We met with representatives of CAIR on Wednesday and found the meeting productive and informative and we look forward to working with them in the future," Fox said in a brief statement.


On its Website, www.cair-net.org, CAIR thanked Fox for "the opportunity to address the Muslim community's concerns and for the willingness of network officials to take those concerns seriously in an atmosphere of mutual respect and co-operation."


"Network representatives said they had already reviewed existing episodes and removed some aspects that could potentially be viewed as stereotypical," the organization added.


On previous seasons of 24, the terrorists have included Eastern Europeans and rogue U.S. and British agents. This fourth season the main terrorists so far are a Muslim dad, mom and teenage son.


CAIR was ticked off even before 24's clock started ticking down with its first four episodes on Jan. 9 and 10. The group was tipped off after a promo DV Dwas issued in Entertainment Weekly. Then, CAIR's concerns escalated when the premiere episodes aired and, at 10:39 a.m. in the fourth episode, the mother, Dina Araz (portrayed by Iranian born actress Shohreh Aghdashloo, Best Supporting Oscar nominee last year for House of Sand and Fog) was depicted poisoning her son's non-Muslim girlfriend because she thinks the girl might jeopardize their plans.


CAIR rep Ahmed says the group wants to avoid sterotyping of Muslims, which could translate into ill-will and even civil rights abuses or hate crimes. Ahmed reports that, per surveys conducted by CAIR, most Americans believe it's okay to curb Muslim's civil rights during the war on terror.


The show's creative and executive production team attended the meeting along with Fox netowrk representatives. (Producers referred all calls back to Fox.)


CAIR, which is sponsoring the PSAs, has requested the 30- and 60-spots be broadcast before, during or after 24, which airs Mondays at 9 p.m. ET/PT. However, it will ultimately be up to local station managers to choose if and when to run the PSAs, which feature the line: "Muslims are part of the fabric of this great country and are working to build a better America."

[Dancing Ants]

:rolleyes :rolleyes

[bdb23]

:rolleyes :rolleyes
:thumbsup Exactly.

[road_designer]

how do you start a poll inside of a current thread?

[Dancing Ants]

:thumbsup Exactly.

i'm surprised the germans didn't get mad over Band of Brothers...

[Ben F.]

how do you start a poll inside of a current thread?
You can't. You'd just have to bold it to get people's attention and hope people respond with a choice, then tally it yourself.

[road_designer]

You can't. You'd just have to bold it to get people's attention and hope people respond with a choice, then tally it yourself.

thanks.

[Matt]

I still stand by my assertion that we'll never see anything like that on television again. That entire first season was perfection. Think about it - everything ends with a happy ending in entertainment. How gutsy was it to end a season with that? And here we are...5 years later (in the 24 world), and there still hasn't been resolution? That might be the saddest finale I've ever seen.
His newly-pregnant wife, dying in his arms? Unprecedented.

[road_designer]

I just realized last night, after looking at Chloe's ugly shirt, that the wardrobe person has a lot of pull on this show. Once you are stuck with an outfit, that's it! You gotta wear it the whole season.

[Mark]

Mark is a Dick
:banned

:hug

[Pipsqueak]

Yeah, the whole sequence when you saw the look strike in Jack's face, you KNEW what was going through his head. That's why having the 3 prior days under your belt benefits the viewer. We know how Jack thinks, so that scene was that much more enjoyable.


Absolutely....
that look on his face with a prior episode of Jack saying how happy he was to have Audrey and a new life....etc...etc...

man, that REALLY makes you feel the emotion in the show...

filler episode....MY ASS :24

[JimiThang1]

I found the font I need: http://www.fonts.com/findfonts/detail.asp?pid=405829 That is absolutely it. It just costs 42 dollars.

I just bought one for 2 dollars that was similar, but it's not an exact match. The one does have the little hook though.

Can you italize that font? The numbers on the show are slightly italicized.

[Ben F.]

Can you italize that font? The numbers on the show are slightly italicized.
True type fonts may not be alter-able in macromedia [flash program]. I thought about it- and as cool as it would be- I'm not looking to blow 42 bucks on a font for a screen saver. Like I said, I emailed Fox about a screen saver. Hopefully they'll put out an authentic one- then I won't have to bother.

If anyone wants Macromedia Flash MX 2004 or the screen saver software, PM me and we can work something out if you want to try and improve on my version.

[dobyblue]

24 News

Jack Bauer's going to have to call in the reinforcements to get through this one.

Facing heat over how Muslims are depicted in its countdown thriller series 24, Fox is working to mend fences before time's up.


The latest season of the Fox drama, which kicked off a week ago, stars Kiefer Sutherland as special agent Bauer. His latest race against the clock to save the world from terrorism has angered America's Muslim community by its portrayal of a Muslim family as a sleeper cell at the heart of a dastardly plot.


Rabiah Ahmed, spokeswoman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, told Broadcasting and Cable that the show is "taking everyday American Muslim families and making them suspects...It's very dangerous and very disturbing."


In response to the complaints, the network has agreed to a modest mea culpa--offering a public service spot to its affiliates that depicts the American Muslim community in a positive light.


"We met with representatives of CAIR on Wednesday and found the meeting productive and informative and we look forward to working with them in the future," Fox said in a brief statement.


On its Website, www.cair-net.org, CAIR thanked Fox for "the opportunity to address the Muslim community's concerns and for the willingness of network officials to take those concerns seriously in an atmosphere of mutual respect and co-operation."


"Network representatives said they had already reviewed existing episodes and removed some aspects that could potentially be viewed as stereotypical," the organization added.


On previous seasons of 24, the terrorists have included Eastern Europeans and rogue U.S. and British agents. This fourth season the main terrorists so far are a Muslim dad, mom and teenage son.


CAIR was ticked off even before 24's clock started ticking down with its first four episodes on Jan. 9 and 10. The group was tipped off after a promo DV Dwas issued in Entertainment Weekly. Then, CAIR's concerns escalated when the premiere episodes aired and, at 10:39 a.m. in the fourth episode, the mother, Dina Araz (portrayed by Iranian born actress Shohreh Aghdashloo, Best Supporting Oscar nominee last year for House of Sand and Fog) was depicted poisoning her son's non-Muslim girlfriend because she thinks the girl might jeopardize their plans.


CAIR rep Ahmed says the group wants to avoid sterotyping of Muslims, which could translate into ill-will and even civil rights abuses or hate crimes. Ahmed reports that, per surveys conducted by CAIR, most Americans believe it's okay to curb Muslim's civil rights during the war on terror.


The show's creative and executive production team attended the meeting along with Fox netowrk representatives. (Producers referred all calls back to Fox.)


CAIR, which is sponsoring the PSAs, has requested the 30- and 60-spots be broadcast before, during or after 24, which airs Mondays at 9 p.m. ET/PT. However, it will ultimately be up to local station managers to choose if and when to run the PSAs, which feature the line: "Muslims are part of the fabric of this great country and are working to build a better America."

Yes someone posted that a couple pages back with a link. I was wondering if we were going to see it last night but we get a Canadian feed up here at CTU (Canadian Terrorist Unit) and so I didn't know if Fox aired it yet.

[bdb23]

Anybody curious as to when we'll next see Heller's son again???

[The Sean]

I emailed fox inquiring about a 24 clock screen saver.
fox can be a bitch about copyright stuff. back when i was a HS freshman, i was obsessed with the simpsons, and was big into the simpsons online fan community. lots of websites, i even made one myself. that community had a big problem with FOX though. the network would often send Cease and Desist orders threatening legal action to the webmasters, telling them to remove content from the site (usually screenshots, audio, video, and other fun things). most of the good and big site had been shut down several times, only to reopen at a new domain with a new name.

[JimiThang1]

Damn I just got done watching Season 1...talk about the most depressing season finale ever. But damn it was good. On to season 2!

[dobyblue]

I just finished rewatching the first 8 episodes of Season 1. Damnn that's some good shit. It's very powerful to go back and see the show beginning.
Some things I noticed. At first there were quite a few actual songs used in the show. It didn't take too long though for the people making the show to realize what a brilliant jon Sean Callery was doing with the score and within 4 or 5 episodes there is hardly any music other than the score.
The windows in Season 1 move very quickly from split screen into full screen when animated. In episode 1 there is a camera clicking noise as each window falls into place instead of the slow whoooooooshhhh....kerrang!!!! The clock ticking in episode one is also hilarious. By episode 2 they introduce the clicking sound we are familiar with now, the deep echoing BLINK, BLINK, BLINK, BLINK.
Tony's terrible little chin fluff changes from episode 1 to 2.
The damn show kicks ass. I remember thinking how good the show was as I watched S1.1 airing for the first time, then all of a sudden Mandy blows up the plane and I was like :eek :eek
Greatest show ever.
I'm rewatching Season 1 with a friend who I just got into Season 4 and has never watched any 24 before - probably because of the Toronto Maple Leafs. So something good has come out of the hockey labour dispute - a new 24 fan. Plus I get to rewatch all of Season's 1 and 2 with someone who's never seen them before which is great. this is my third full viewing of Season 1.

[The Sean]

so i was playing Euchre last night and realized that the creators must have been doing the same thing when they thought of Jacks name. think about it, in euchre, the bowers are jacks. Jack Bauer.
like....whoa.

[bdb23]

so i was playing Euchre last night and realized that the creators must have been doing the same thing when they thought of Jacks name. think about it, in euchre, the bowers are jacks. Jack Bauer.
like....whoa.
Damn. All the years I've played Euchre and I didn't catch that either. Good find.

[FPrefect61]

About this Muslim thing...

1.) Quit your bitching, it's TV, not real life.
2.) Did people from Kosovo get pissed with the Drazens?
3.) Did the British get pissed with Saunders?

This isn't even the first time Muslims have been potrayed as the enemy in this show, but I don't recall anyone getting bent out of shape during the second season. Oh, I guess it was okay because it was the little white girl and not her Muslim fiancee..

Sorry, but I can't stand people getting offended by the slightest thing...

[Trippin4136]

show spoiler button? great idea :thumbsup

[DMBfan41]

We have a George spotting!! He's alive.

He was playing an attorney on Law And Order tonight

[Dancing Ants]

Mason didn't die! He started over as an attorney. Good for him. I'm a Masonite, you know.

[asmjm39]

Mason was the shizzle. My favorite director not named Bauer

[The Sean]

ohh man, just watched S2 E3
the episode where the bomb goes off in CTU, and where Mason is exposed to, and then told about his lethal dose of plutonium. that is one powerful way to end an episode :thumbsup

[Noles20]

I just got into 24 this season. I just got the DVD's of seasons 1-3 this week. Should I start watching them now, while we're in the middle of season 4, or should I wait until season 4 is over? I'm not sure that I want to watch 2 seasons at the same time, but I'm not sure if I can wait for season 4 to end either. What should I do???

[Ben F.]

Tough call. On the one hand, all the time in between episodes of s4, you easily have enough time to finish all 3 seasons before season 4 ends. You would be all caught up on Jack's past and s4 would make that much more sense. There is also no such thing as
too much 24. 19 weeks is a long time to wait to watch the first 3 seasons.

On the other, you don't want to get your stories and plots all mixed up. Once you start a season, it's tough to stop without finishing it.

[DMBfan41]

I think this weeks preview has gave too much away. I sure hope I don't know what's happening next.

[Matt]

I had to write a nasty email to foxnews.com :(

Season 4 Character spoiler:
Right on their fucking front page is a story about Dennis Haysbert returning as Palmer for the final 6 eps. of the season. What kinda shit is that? I thought it belonged in tabloids and fan spoiler sites, not on the news?!?

[Ben F.]

So Fox news revealed a character who is due to show up this season? That's pretty pathetic.

Paste the email here, omitting spoiler content :)

I still haven't heard back from fox or the 24 fanclub about a screen saver. I have a feeling I never will.

[bdb23]

SHIT!!!! I went to quote Matt and say "I don't want to open this. Tell me I don't want to open this." and the spoiler gets quoted in the reply. Oh well.

[Ben F.]

You should have quick-reply-quoted him- then you wouldn't have seen it.

[bdb23]

You should have quick-reply-quoted him- then you wouldn't have seen it.
But it would have been worse since it would have come up in the "Quote" for everyone.

[Ben F.]

No, I'm pretty sure you still have to click to unspoiler it.

test
you will die alone

[Ben F.]

No, I'm pretty sure you still have to click to unspoiler it.

test
you will die alone
test

[bdb23]

test
Oh well. I'll live.

[Crumbo]

No, I'm pretty sure you still have to click to unspoiler it.

test
you will die alone

how did you know my future? :p

[bdb23]

how did you know my future? :p
:lol :thumbsdow

[Ben F.]

I assume you got your package, Crumbo.

[Crumbo]

I assume you got your package, Crumbo.

not yet....my mailperson hates me and delivers only half my mail at once :lol

[Ben F.]

By the way- for those that missed it, I made a respectable version of the 24 clock screen saver.

You'll need to download the following file [screen saver and font (Digital Readout Thick)], unpack it, and install the font [control panel->font->file: install new font]and drop the screen saver into c:/windows/system32

right click and save target as (http://www.clemson.edu/~btfowle/24 Clock Screen Saver v1.1package.rar)

I realize the font is not authentic, but we found one that looks like a dead on match, but it's 42 dollars. I emailed Fox and the 24 fan club - if I hear back I'll post it here.

[YknSTONE]

Hey Ben, would you mind if I created a Avatar outta your screen saver?

[Ben F.]

Do whatever you want. :)

If you were looking for a '24' [those two digits] I have some other better examples.

[Ben F.]

Here use one from this:

[YknSTONE]

Those are all cool. But I want to do an actual countdown clock. (animated Gif)

[Noles20]

Tough call. On the one hand, all the time in between episodes of s4, you easily have enough time to finish all 3 seasons before season 4 ends. You would be all caught up on Jack's past and s4 would make that much more sense. There is also no such thing as
too much 24. 19 weeks is a long time to wait to watch the first 3 seasons.

On the other, you don't want to get your stories and plots all mixed up. Once you start a season, it's tough to stop without finishing it.

I think I might just watch season one while season 4 is on, then save 2 and 3 for the summer. You hit the nail on the head, 19 weeks is a long time to wait!

[YknSTONE]

I just finished making these "24" Avatars...anyone is welcome to use them.

:cool

[cwsrule88]

^im gunna use one of those i think

[Ben F.]

2 days 20 hours and 18 minutes until Jack goes in. :24

[The Sean]

watched S2 E4 today. i love this show so much
jack finds out that nina is in play, continuations about Paula, the CTU bombing, Mason, and Kim

[malonestar]

watched S2 E4 today. i love this show so much
jack finds out that nina is in play, continuations about Paula, the CTU bombing, Mason, and Kim

I randomly watched S1 E22 yesterday and it just reminded me that no matter how amazing season 4 might turn out to be, it doesn't stand a chance against the brilliance of S1. Kim is soooo hot.

[VicforMsu]

By the way- for those that missed it, I made a respectable version of the 24 clock screen saver.

You'll need to download the following file [screen saver and font (Digital Readout Thick)], unpack it, and install the font [control panel->font->file: install new font]and drop the screen saver into c:/windows/system32


How do you go about "unpacking" a .RAR file?

[Ben F.]

How do you go about "unpacking" a .RAR file?
Winrar

You should be able to google it and at least get a trial version.

[Ben F.]

I am having to bust my f-ing balls to keep from ruining tomorrow night. Dammit Fox, I know you're excited about 24, but stop showing spoiler clips from the following night's episode.

[asmjm39]

is what they are showing in these commercials that big of a surprise? I havent seen any, but how much could they reveal?

[Ben F.]

Whether or not Jack goes in. Whether or not he gets anyone out. Who ends up in whose possession. What the cliffhanger for next week might be.

I don't care if they reveal the style of Jack's shirt - I don't want to know anything :)

[mwjorgens]

thank god im white otherwise i might be offended by this show

[asmjm39]

Whether or not Jack goes in. Whether or not he gets anyone out. Who ends up in whose possession. What the cliffhanger for next week might be.

I don't care if they reveal the style of Jack's shirt - I don't want to know anything :)


gotcha, but to me, it doesnt seem like they are revealing any major surprises, but Jack doesnt change outfits too many times does he

[DMBfan41]

By the way- for those that missed it, I made a respectable version of the 24 clock screen saver.

You'll need to download the following file [screen saver and font (Digital Readout Thick)], unpack it, and install the font [control panel->font->file: install new font]and drop the screen saver into c:/windows/system32

right click and save target as (http://www.clemson.edu/~btfowle/24 Clock Screen Saver v1.1package.rar)

I realize the font is not authentic, but we found one that looks like a dead on match, but it's 42 dollars. I emailed Fox and the 24 fan club - if I hear back I'll post it here.

hey Ben, what program is needed to open up an .ssp file. I can't get the screensaver

[Ben F.]

ssp?

when you open that package- it should come with a font and a screensaver file [.scr maybe]. Install the font- and copy/paste the screen saver into c:/windows/system 32

[DMBfan41]

i did that, then what do i do?

[Ben F.]

Right click on your desktop - pick the screen saver tab at the top - then go in the pulldown menu for which screen savers you can use- and pick 24 clock screen saver v 1.1 and hit apply or ok.

[DMBfan41]

doesn't show up, do i need a program to work?

[dmb1spe]

I'm having the same problem Jared

[Ben F.]

You guys did use winRAR to unpack the file you downloaded from Clemson's server- ending up with a .scr file and a font file, right? The font file should be installed [directions above] and the .scr file should just be copied and pasted into c:/windows/system 32. Other people are getting this right, gentlement, pretty sure it's not on my end.

[bdb23]

*coughForumNameChangecough*

[asmjm39]

tonights show is going to be reallly good, I cant wait!

[DMBfan41]

You guys did use winRAR to unpack the file you downloaded from Clemson's server- ending up with a .scr file and a font file, right? The font file should be installed [directions above] and the .scr file should just be copied and pasted into c:/windows/system 32. Other people are getting this right, gentlement, pretty sure it's not on my end.

nah, when i download it it's an .ssp file

[Ben F.]

http://www.clemson.edu/~btfowle/24 Clock Screen Saver v1-1.scr try that

[Tak_a_Tak]

The season is very nice so far. My wife and I watched the first five hours in one sitting yesterday. She wasn't able to be home for the first night so we taped it. We had not had time to watch it so we just keep taping each show. It was a real bitch changing the station every time a 24 spot came on so that we wouldn't catch anything too soon. I'm glad to be up to speed and can't wait for tonights show! Hope to be in here more often to talk about the best damn show on tv!

[DMBfan41]

thanks Ben! Screen saver looks great!

[GatorMark]

The season is very nice so far. My wife and I watched the first five hours in one sitting yesterday. She wasn't able to be home for the first night so we taped it. We had not had time to watch it so we just keep taping each show. It was a real bitch changing the station every time a 24 spot came on so that we wouldn't catch anything too soon. I'm glad to be up to speed and can't wait for tonights show! Hope to be in here more often to talk about the best damn show on tv!

I just watched the last two episodes - I downloaded them since I only saw half of episode 4 and none of 5. Can't wait for tonight.

[dobyblue]

*coughForumNameChangecough*
:lol what is it you think it should be - I must have missed this - inside joke?gotcha, but to me, it doesnt seem like they are revealing any major surprises, but Jack doesnt change outfits too many times does he
If you watch S1 again you'll note Jack changes shirts at least 3 times between S1.1 and S1.6
When I left on Friday my roommates were at S1.17
I got home last night they were on S2.6 telling me how blown away they were by the last 10 minutes of S1.24
Tonight's episode is going to be brilliant and I'm so glad I know nothing about it at all.

[bdb23]

:lol what is it you think it should be - I must have missed this - inside joke?
It wasn't changed when I was up this morning.

[asmjm39]

:lol what is it you think it should be - I must have missed this - inside joke?
If you watch S1 again you'll note Jack changes shirts at least 3 times between S1.1 and S1.6
When I left on Friday my roommates were at S1.17
I got home last night they were on S2.6 telling me how blown away they were by the last 10 minutes of S1.24
Tonight's episode is going to be brilliant and I'm so glad I know nothing about it at all.


I just thought of that, but hey I am new to this game

[dobyblue]

It wasn't changed when I was up this morning
Nevermind I totally understand now. I think I see 24um there regardless of what it says.
You get up early for a man living in Central Time!
I just thought of that, but hey I am new to this game
Also note how much better the desks and lockers look in S3 than they do in S1. Made me think that this is probably due to S2
when the bomb destroys CTU they get much nicer furniture in after the day's crises is over.

[dobyblue]

Spoiler appears to not be working.

[YknSTONE]

Cause you cannot quote and have a Spoiler in the same post.

[bdb23]

Nevermind I totally understand now. I think I see 24um there regardless of what it says.
You get up early for a man living in Central Time![/SPOILER]
Dogs and rush hour traffic to contend with.

[dobyblue]

Fixed it.

Brian I first read that as "drugs and rush hour traffic to contend with"

Good old Chicago!

[bdb23]

Fixed it.

Brian I first read that as "drugs and rush hour traffic to contend with"

Good old Chicago!
Only on Thursdays. :lol

[Tak_a_Tak]

I can't wait untill tonight! I have no idea what's about to happen to Jack!

[nubby]

Does anyone know Kiefer's favorite word?

[DMBfan41]

Does anyone know Kiefer's favorite word?

get out

[DMBfan41]

Ok, the preview for FOX tonight, I'm pretty sure they said 23

[Ben F.]

Don't talk about tonight's episode until it has begun or is over, PLEASE!

[asmjm39]

I still have almost 4 hours to go

[DMBfan41]

5 minutes, ahhhh!!!!

[Tak_a_Tak]

yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[clayj41]

Wow!!! :24

[FPrefect61]

JesustapdancingChristBarbaraStreisand!!!!

[timmyt23]

JesustapdancingChristBarbaraStreisand!!!!

Be careful. You don't want to get your nuts all a-giggled.

[Ben F.]

Well holy shitballs... that was one of the greatest 11 minutes of 24 ever.

[Tak_a_Tak]

damn!

[FPrefect61]

There's Dirty Harry badass
There's James Bond badass
And waaaaaaaaaaay at the top is Jack Bauer badass.

Holy shit.

[Pipsqueak]

holy goddamn sonofabitch muthafocking shit ballsack, merry christmas, HOLY SHIT!!!

:24
:24
:24

[DMBfan41]

definately badass!

[DMBfan41]

has anyone played that 24 countown?

[timmyt23]

Oh shit, here we go.

[Ben F.]

Nuclear plants?
Another mole!

I hate to say it, but I'm really disappointed in the writers for that.

[brendangen412]

That....Was.....Awesome

[boiii]

Another mole!

I hate to say it, but I'm really disappointed in the writers for that.

so obvious.
and full agree.

cheers.
ken

[clayj41]

I wish I could have an episode dedicated to me. :o

[Mark]

another fucking mole? :twak

[lillerfm]

I want Jack to be my mentor for national mentor month.

[Tak_a_Tak]

Nuclear plants?
Another mole!

I hate to say it, but I'm really disappointed in the writers for that.
:thumbsup

that was toooo much. I said the same thing, another mole?!? Weak!

[lillerfm]

Oh, and that was the best 12 min and 50 seconds of 24 ever.

[Pipsqueak]

another fucking mole? :twak


yeah... :violent :thumbsdow

it was VERY obvious.....so maybe it's not true.....we don't know who she was on the phone with.

[DMBfan41]

I knew they couldn't trust that bitch

[FPrefect61]

There's gotta be more to this.

How about Berhooz? He showed some badassnesss tonight.

[boiii]

yeah... :violent :thumbsdow

it was VERY obvious.....so maybe it's not true.....we don't know who she was on the phone with.

did the challah chabdallah accent not give it away?

cheers.
ken

[lillerfm]

I knew they couldn't trust that bitch

but...but...but...she was on Friends!

[Ben F.]

I'll check the recording for the nationality of the person she was talking to...

[Pipsqueak]

did the challah chabdallah accent not give it away?

cheers.
ken

who says all the Arabs in the show are terrorists?

you know this show.....anything can/will happen