Official 24 Discussion (Greatest Show Ever)

[ProudestAnt]

Eh, not great, next week will be sweet though. Fucking Logan...

[clayj41]

Next week looks intense! I can't wait!:twenty4

[shrimpco2]

who is the guy that jack is giving cover fire for in the previews?

[bdb23]

Spoilers?????

[AlpineValley804]

Hmmm...I guess I'm in the minority again. I thought 24 was at the top of its game tonight. I'm hoping there is a real twist this season sometime or another. The last two seasons didn't really have any, and I'm not talking about the shockers that occured in the first episode, but more along the lines of of "I never expected that they were a bad guy" ala Marie in Season 2 (though I did call that one)

[JimiThang1]

Wow tonight was so boring...

[bdfresh62]

I kind of really liked tonights episode. The scenes in the mall were so intense to me. Really looking forward to next weeks episode. It looks like from the previews the crap hits the fan.

[@drian]

I love how the page before this is full of people putting non spoilers in spoiler tags... then tonight some people actualy talked about the previews for next week not in spoilers...
While this talking hardly revealed anything. Is it that hard to not mention the previews?

[greg87lax]

just talking about tonights episode.....

I hate how Biblo Baggins gets beat up, then can come right back into CTU no problem.

Other than that, I though tonights episode was better than the last few weeks. Oh yeah, and i completely forgot about kim....i bet she won't be back for at least another 2-3 episodes

[DMBfan41]

i thought it was good tonight, not great. Logan of course not being able to make a decision, but decides to kill the innocent.

I really think the best thing to do would've been to just taken the two guys and interrogate them.

You really think Bauer wouldn't get anything out of them????

But the mall scene was good, and Bauer saving the kid was real nice

[tdowe99]

Is it really that easy to hotwire a car??
Not anymore with newer cars. But that car was older, so I guess it's possible.

[mr.MikeD]

i hope they kill this nerve gas story line next week, if the rest of this season is jack chasing those canisters around the city it will get old. i'm sure there's something else, but they need to get to it.

fuck. this season is weak. the first ep was unbelievably good, now its pretty much boring so far. probably shouldn't have watched season 2 on dvd right before this season, that's big shoes to fill.

[Bartender84]

Hmmm...I guess I'm in the minority again. I thought 24 was at the top of its game tonight. I'm hoping there is a real twist this season sometime or another. The last two seasons didn't really have any, and I'm not talking about the shockers that occured in the first episode, but more along the lines of of "I never expected that they were a bad guy" ala Marie in Season 2 (though I did call that one)
Actually, there was a very huge twist in Season 3 with Gael being a double agent

[DMB6800]

whats up with the spoiler tags?...its not workin for me right now. the button is coming up but when you click it, nothin is there. i wanna post a thought i have, but i just cant throw it out there

[@drian]

whats up with the spoiler tags?...its not workin for me right now. the button is coming up but when you click it, nothin is there. i wanna post a thought i have, but i just cant throw it out there

if you are trying to quote someone, and post a spoiler, the spoiler tags will show up, but with no text inside the box....

[DMB6800]

mmmm...yeh still not workin......not doing anything different than i've done before when i've used them

[joepsu0985]

Hmmm...I guess I'm in the minority again. I thought 24 was at the top of its game tonight. I'm hoping there is a real twist this season sometime or another. The last two seasons didn't really have any, and I'm not talking about the shockers that occured in the first episode, but more along the lines of of "I never expected that they were a bad guy" ala Marie in Season 2 (though I did call that one)

Yeah, this show did reveal a little more information. The guy with the gas (i forget his name) should know that Jack is after him. And if the people with the gas are still connected to the Prez.'s aid (now dead) then they will be after jack pretty soon. They wanted him dead last season. This is all just a guess..Im tired of getting flamed for using spoilers...I also dont watch previews.

[killymagee2000]

Last night's show was, in my opinion, another filler-type show. Not to say it was bad, but it just seems that none of the episodes have been living up to the standard that the first five minutes of the season set.

In any event:

I suspect that this bioterrorism threat plot will only last a few more episodes. Then we'll get his with the Chinese. Its the 24 way.

[Pipsqueak]

I thought Jack running through the mall with the gas mask was pretty intense....but maybe that's just me.

The music was awesome for this ep. too.

[@drian]

I thought Jack running through the mall with the gas mask was pretty intense....but maybe that's just me.

The music was awesome for this ep. too.

Yah I thought the episode was really great as well. Then I come on here, and im like what the hell? Did I see a different show?

I am thinking that jack doesn't quite have what it takes anymore. Well not like that, He can still save the world, but I think maybe the old jack would have let those kids die...

[killymagee2000]

Yah I thought the episode was really great as well. Then I come on here, and im like what the hell? Did I see a different show?

I am thinking that jack doesn't quite have what it takes anymore. Well not like that, He can still save the world, but I think maybe the old jack would have let those kids die...

I was thinking the same thing. He's getting a little soft. For fuck's sake, he executed Chappelle!

[@drian]

I was thinking the same thing. He's getting a little soft. For fuck's sake, he executed Chappelle!


I am kind of liking it though, because after all he has been through it is very realistic that he wouldn't be the same old Jack.

I just watched the episode again, I didn't notice this when I first watched it. Logan said to Lynn something along the lines of 'I sent you over to CTU for blah blah blah, if you can't get the job done, I will find someone else'
Did we already know that President Logan was the one that sent Lynn over to CTU?

[DMB6800]

possible, but maybe not???

logan and lynn involved with the terrorists in some way, why does lynn need to supervise CTU? they've handled problems as bad as this before

[NavyBoy41]

anyone have a link where i can download episode 8 from? i just got back out from being out to sea for 2 weeks and downloaded 7, but can't find episode 8.... thanks

[slk11086]

isohunt.com had it.

[@drian]

Yo bitches! t-minus 6 hours... east coast anyways...!

[greg87lax]

well I'm ready
I predict jack will kill 3 people

[Trippin4136]

There was just a ridiculous piece on FoxNews (yes somehow I hit FoxNews but I came across this) about the "women of 24" . And the woman who plays Chloe went off on some ridiculous tangent about nudity and her stripping to get info from a terrorist and her talking about chocolate milk....it was quite humorous.

[brendangen412]

There was just a ridiculous piece on FoxNews (yes somehow I hit FoxNews but I came across this) about the "women of 24" . And the woman who plays Chloe went off on some ridiculous tangent about nudity and her stripping to get info from a terrorist and her talking about chocolate milk....it was quite humorous.
naked chloe + Chocolate milk = :hump

I wish i was a 24 terrorist, they pull amazing chloe trim

[Gater1848]

Lynn is a douchebag:twenty4

[DMBfan41]

shit is getting intense

[clayj41]

Lynn is a douchebag:twenty4

:thumbsup He's out of control. Pretty good episode tonight. Better than the last few weeks IMO.

[joepsu0985]

What season was the Omnicron (sp?) company from..Was it season 1?

[joepsu0985]

Finally an episode were it starts getting back to the old 24. Next week looks to be great. Jack taking out Curtis was intense. Logans wife is making things interesting also. She is turing out to be the brains of the Logan Admin. Lynn (aka. Rudy) is a dick. Something doesnt seem right with him. Why all of the sudden was he placed in CTU. I dont think they needed his help after CTU took care of the nuclear threat last season. Its about to go down next episode.

[Tak_a_Tak]

Was it just me, or was the score sooo much better tonight that it's be for most of the season? Each part, the music just keep putting me on the edge of my seat!

[twk13]

how far will the motorcade make it, care to make any predictions?

[@drian]

Tonights ep was absolutely incredible. All those terrorists getting killed off at the begging was intense. Jack doing shoulder rolls all over the place, shit!

Man if I was Jack Bauer my main mode of transportation would be shoulder rolls!
Badass shit!

[greg87lax]

Man if I was Jack Bauer my main mode of transportation would be shoulder rolls!

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
you just won a spot in my sig

[rick8285]

Did anyone else catch the homeless dude at almost exactly the 31 minute mark. Jack pulls up to the building that Nathanson is hiding out in and the homeless dude yells at Jack "hey slow down." I found that very funny. But yeah, this episode was sooooo awesome.

I hate Lynn's guts, but that's just good acting/writing. His sister's boyfriend is obviously gonna get into some deep shit when he goes to seel that keycard.

And was anyone else surprised when Buchanan distracted Lynn and told him that he could use his keycard to override the phone logs. It's when Lynn sorta hit the fan, perhaps it was because he was embarrassed to reveal that he no longer has his card. That may be a partial explanation as to why Buchanan is now in holding.

[greg87lax]

i think that lynn's sister's guy buddy who has the keycard is going to end up in CTU and someone is going to end up shot. Hopefullly it will be lynn

[twk13]

does marsha get shot? go.

[@drian]

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
you just won a spot in my sig


Hehe thanks :)

[killymagee2000]

Great episode last night. very intense and great music.

[Franchize41]

Great episode last night. very intense and great music.

the music is always great, what Sean Callery does fits great with the show

[road_designer]

And was anyone else surprised when Buchanan distracted Lynn and told him that he could use his keycard to override the phone logs. It's when Lynn sorta hit the fan, perhaps it was because he was embarrassed to reveal that he no longer has his card. That may be a partial explanation as to why Buchanan is now in holding.
Great observation. That must of been exactly why Lynn locked him up.

[mr.MikeD]

i was pretty dissappointed with the 2 or 3 eps leading up to last night, but last night really picked it up i thought. jack on is own is just what it needed, the best shows are usually when he is ignoring the rules.

[@drian]

the best shows are usually when he is ignoring the rules.

Which leads to massive amounts of shoulder rolls, and people being killed! :hump

[boiii]

i was pretty dissappointed with the 2 or 3 eps leading up to last night, but last night really picked it up i thought. jack on is own is just what it needed, the best shows are usually when he is ignoring the rules.

If everyone on "24" followed Jack Bauer's instructions, it would be called "12".

cheers.
ken

[clayj41]

If everyone on "24" followed Jack Bauer's instructions, it would be called "12".

cheers.
ken

I was thinking more like "1" :lol

[bdfresh62]

You know the episode is going to be great when the head terrorist is popped 5 minutes into the episode. I also feel bad for Curtis. You totally knew Jack was going to rough him up.

[greg87lax]

i still think that curtis would have gone along with jack if jack just told him the plan/deal.

[clayj41]

i still think that curtis would have gone along with jack if jack just told him the plan/deal.

That's the way it would've worked in real life, but you forgot who we're talking about here.....Jack "Anything to stop terrorism" Bauer!

[@drian]

I figured out about 5 seconds after Jack knocked out Curtis. That they could have just talked. Set up a plan like this. We call CTU from like a payphone, tell them what is happening. CTU follows jack with a helicopter to where Nathanson wanted to meet. Then when nathanson says ok come meet me. The CTU helicopter flies in, JACK says 'oh shit, the russians are coming' Nathasnson gives up the info.

[GSUdawg521]

Hello again. My apologies for some stubborness a few weeks ago, but it's behind us now.

In the past month alone I've been catching up like crazy, one dvd at a time (rented, I probably wouldn't watch again, at least for a while). I'm already on season freaking 3! I love it. I know two other people who just got into it and are doing the same thing as well, only they're avoiding season 5, which I'm not. Maybe I should though... As someone mentioned, it is hard having access to a whole bunch of them at once, you want to watch the next one as soon as you're done!

Anyway, I recently came upon the "Jack Bauer facts" but I did see they've been posted, and a while ago at that. But there's one other thing I thought I'd throw in that I'm pretty sure wasn't mentioned. I went to buy some cigars a few weeks ago at a shop and in the window they had a big ad for the Cigar Aficionado magazine they sold, with none other than Keifer on the cover (love the picture). Big article inside about the show, few words with him, the process, just all kinds of neat stuff. How the writers and producers have this "cigar room" where they sit around and even invite any cast members in just to toss ideas around for the show. Also a little side interview with Carlos Bernard (Tony) about the show and his love of cigars.

Just thought I'd let y'all know in case anyone wants to pick it up. I decided I might stay away from this thread a little more, only cause my curiosity tends to lead me to things I don't wanna know about. I know you're usually only discussing opinions and stuff, I'd rather just watch it with a fresh mind. No harm no foul :)

Peas

[greg87lax]

i also saw keifer on a aficionado...badass

[GSUdawg521]

i also saw keifer on a aficionado...badass

Yeah he looks so cool and smug in it, it's awesome.

[clayj41]

Found this on facebook. Granted its a direct ripoff of Chuck Norris, but still funny.

[dobyblue]

Braddock! Why you come back to Vietnam!?!?

:lol

[greg87lax]

less than 12 hours away....

[@drian]

less than 12 hours away....

Fuck yeah bitches, I hope Jack and Black Jack kick some ass tonight!

[asmjm39]

Black Jack, :lol

[greg87lax]

i wanna see aaron start making executive decisions

and by executive decisions i mean kill mrs logan

[clayj41]

Might have to miss it tonight.:(

[greg87lax]

Might have to miss it tonight.:(
bit torrent :thumbsup

[@drian]

bit torrent :thumbsup

Yup I don't have cable so that's how I watch it. The odd time I will go to my girlfriends parents house, because they have cable. But they won't shut up, so I miss most of the show.

[clayj41]

bit torrent :thumbsup

Its looking as though I'll be able to watch it now.

[killymagee2000]

I fucking hate Skating with Celebrities.

[killymagee2000]

I fucking hate Skating with Celebrities.

[GSUdawg521]

Yup I don't have cable so that's how I watch it. The odd time I will go to my girlfriends parents house, because they have cable. But they won't shut up, so I miss most of the show.

Wait, am I missing something? Is this legal?

[bdb23]

God I hate Logan.

[ProudestAnt]

Fuck Logan...

[bdb23]

Such a whiney baby. :lorraine

[ProudestAnt]

He reminds me of Bush for some reason...

[bdb23]

:rolleyes

[ProudestAnt]

I think it's the whole aspect of him not being able to think for himself and Bush supposedly being the same way. I dunno...

[bdb23]

Fuck you Rudy!!!

[ProudestAnt]

Curtis is gettin ready to break a foot off in someone's ass...

[clayj41]

I hate Rudy's power trips!

[ProudestAnt]

Is it just me or is that a big ass waiting room?

[bdb23]

Jack got schooled right there.

[ProudestAnt]

OMG, he's SO going to lose his job after this...

[bdb23]

Yep.

[bdb23]

That guy's accent is as good as Dennis Hopper's.

[ProudestAnt]

I can't wait until shit hits the fan with him...

[bdb23]

Me neither.

[ProudestAnt]

Do it Curtis, you know you want to...

[bdb23]

Section 112. Sounds like last season and 25th Amendment.

[bdb23]

Shit. My season's are running together. That wasn't last season. DUH.

[ProudestAnt]

Wow, he's actually gonna let this happen...

[bdb23]

Praying????

[ProudestAnt]

Good shit, bout time...

[bdb23]

Fucking sweet!!!!

[clayj41]

Thank you Curtis!!!

[JimiThang1]

Take that dirty little hobbitses

[GSUdawg521]

I just gave a major fist pump at that last scene :thumbsup :lol

[bdb23]

Great scene. GREAT!

[bdb23]

This is your opportunity JACKASS!!

[ProudestAnt]

OOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooo

[ProudestAnt]

Fucking sweet...

[bdb23]

Pierce is Bauer-good!!!! God Dammit!!!!

[bdb23]

Damn.

[JimiThang1]

Hell yea Aaron!

[bdb23]

Finally. Back to Jack.

[bdb23]

Holy crap!!!

[ProudestAnt]

Can't fuck with Jack!

[bdb23]

Jack is losing his touch. Schooled twice in the same episode by the same former CTU agent??? WTF?!?

[ProudestAnt]

Two hours next week, cherry...

[bdb23]

2 new hours next week!!!!

[clayj41]

Pretty intense!

[clayj41]

Jack is losing his touch. Schooled twice in the same episode by the same former CTU agent??? WTF?!?

That guy must have been the original badass CTU agent before Jack Bauer.:lol

[bdb23]

That guy must have been the original badass CTU agent before Jack Bauer.:lol
I guess. He got Jack good twice.

[JimiThang1]

Hell yea
SEXY KIM!

[clayj41]

Hell yea
SEXY KIM!

:thumbsup That preview looked great!

[bdb23]

Hell yeah. :hump

[GSUdawg521]

Preview Question
Who was the guy removing a bandage in the mirror? Was that Tony?

[lillerfm]

I have nothing to say...


other than....


god damn this the best show on televison.

[lillerfm]

No Robocop....NO!!!!!!!!

[GSUdawg521]

Oh yeah and another fist pump for Aaron saving the day

[bdb23]

Preview Question
Who was the guy removing a bandage in the mirror? Was that Tony?
Yes.

[rick8285]

in every other season one of the major storylines was boring as hell (keith's troubles, kate warner is annoying, etc) this year there is no boring aspect, everything is KILLER!

That preview was insane and this show is easily the best on Television

[clayj41]

How do you do the spoiler tags?

[bdfresh62]

That guy's accent is as good as Dennis Hopper's.

:lol

I was thinking the exact same thing.

[AlpineValley804]

Tonight's episode may have been the best so far of the season. I was pumped the entire way through. Can't wait for next week. Previews looked outstanding.

On another note, this show has great screenwriters. The Russian President and Russian First Lady really carried on a great conversation with Martha.

[GSUdawg521]

How do you do the spoiler tags?

[ spoiler ] text you want to hide! [ / spoiler ]

Just take out all the spaces. Preview before you submit to make sure it worked.


I was looking through IMDB at Aaron (Gleen Morshower) to see where I knew him from, but I couldn't find it. I did however find that he was in an episode of Full House :lol I think it was when Jessie was gonna get married to Becky, but first he went skydiving, got stuck in an apple tree or something? Apparently, he (Glenn) was a farmer. I'm just guessing it was right around that time, haven't seen the episode in a while.

[AlpineValley804]

Oh yeah and another fist pump for Aaron saving the day

:thumbsup I almost thought Aaron was dead there for a minute. I might have just been more devastated than when we lost Palmer, but that's just thinking in the heat of the moment.

I say let the council vote that Aaron is named heir of Chuck Norris's throne. Because he'll roundhouse kick you if you come near the president or anyone with family ties to him.

[twk13]

Shit, I missed it tonight, anyone care to give me some kind of recap, I'd be much obliged, or if it will be on again.

[bdfresh62]

This was a killer episode. Section 112 kicks major ass. :thumbsup

Does anyone think that the VP of Omicron was the one who got Nina involved with the terrorists and that he has kind of been involved from the get go?

[bdfresh62]

Oh yeah and I just found this, don't know if it has been posted yet.

http://home.av.net/tts/store/index.jsp?id=a0a0164000000ff706071f000000006

[joepsu0985]

Im putting this in spoilers incase people didnt watch the previews.
First tonights shows.
I thought it was lame how the limo didnt blow up. I mean it was a rocket launcher. Jack got played. It wasnt even a good play. I mean when does jack ever trust someone that suspicious. Thank god "rudy" is finnaly out of there and I hope hes done forever. I think i might hate him as a real person after tonight. Oh but next week might be what makes this season the best ever.

Kim and Tony comming back. Wow. Kim will probably fuck shit up again as always. Tony might remember somethign from when he was attacked at the begining of the season. Also Audrey's dad still keeps getting mentioned by "Rudy" and I think he will be back sometime soon. This nerve gas is starting to get kicked. I was starting to think that the DOD had somethign to do with the nerve gas, but then Jack was almost killed. I was thinking Audrey's dad would be a prime suspect, but not so much now. I cant wait. Two hours, its going to be sick.

[joepsu0985]

This was a killer episode. Section 112 kicks major ass. :thumbsup

Does anyone think that the VP of Omicron was the one who got Nina involved with the terrorists and that he has kind of been involved from the get go?


Yes, I think so.

[bdb23]

This was a killer episode. Section 112 kicks major ass. :thumbsup

Does anyone think that the VP of Omicron was the one who got Nina involved with the terrorists and that he has kind of been involved from the get go?
I was thinking that we might get a few loose ends tied up with him.

[bdfresh62]

Oh yeah I forgot to mention, anyone think this may be a possibilty:

Lynn's sisters boyfriend is actaully in with the terrorists and got his CTU ID card to help smuggle the Centox gas in there? From the preview for next week, it looks like one of the canisters is planted at CTU.

[joepsu0985]

That is interesting. Maybe one of the terrorists does drugs or he knows them through the underground. He might just get money for the card because that is what "Rudy's" sister wanted anyways.

[GSUdawg521]

I think i might hate him as a real person after tonight.
This made me laugh out loud :lol

[jguinan101]

Oh yeah I forgot to mention, anyone think this may be a possibilty:

Lynn's sisters boyfriend is actaully in with the terrorists and got his CTU ID card to help smuggle the Centox gas in there? From the preview for next week, it looks like one of the canisters is planted at CTU.

so i was thinking that a while ago he looked very interested in the card, i dont know though that was like 4 hours ago so maybe he is done, so what does everyone think about the game coming out :twenty4

[rick8285]

it is weird how they haven't mentioned the key card in this last episode...

[@drian]

Wait, am I missing something? Is this legal?

How could it be illegal. You can get the show for free, if you live in an area where you can pick up fox on an antenna. You can't buy the show, therefore it isn't illegal to download it.

[clayj41]

Anyone else see the actors who play Curtis and Aaron at the California Speedway yesterday?

[dmb41er]

Well at least they didn't have a character that was vital to finding the tear gas and then die at the end this episode... ill give you that much.

[junior94]

On another note, this show has great screenwriters. The Russian President and Russian First Lady really carried on a great conversation with Martha.

:eek ehh I'm sorry, but if you really think that, there's plenty other good television you've yet to see. I like 24 to a certain degree, obviously I bother watching it, but it's far from the best thing on the tube, certainly in part to its writing.

I thought it was lame how the limo didnt blow up. I mean it was a rocket launcher.

Well, keep in mind the hit had its main impact more towards the front of the limo it looked like, as opposed to directly square in the center. Also, the presidential motorcade is fortified out the yingyang, and rightly so, and we're not just talking some bulletproof glass. I believe the main limo is designed even to sustain (to a certain extent) a nuclear blast.

[junior94]

oh yea, and...

CUR-TIS! CUR-TIS! CUR-TIS! CUR-TIS! :hump :D Hey man, Curtis is the new Tony in his bad-assedness (though when the hell is the old Tony gonna wake his tired ass up... :rolleyes )

And wow I think tonight was the most Jack-light an episode's been that I can ever recall in this series. oh well, 'dems the realities of walking across a building's campus with a guy! :D

[@drian]

:eek ehh I'm sorry, but if you really think that, there's plenty other good television you've yet to see. I like 24 to a certain degree, obviously I bother watching it, but it's far from the best thing on the tube, certainly in part to its writing.

I'm pretty sure he/she was being sarcastic. I mean the only dialouge they carried on was a few words about some oranges.

[lillerfm]

Well at least they didn't have a character that was vital to finding the tear gas and then die at the end this episode... ill give you that much.
Yeah, that "tear gas" can be a real bitch if it's released in a crowded mall or riot or something...

[lillerfm]

eek ehh I'm sorry, but if you really think that, there's plenty other good television you've yet to see. I like 24 to a certain degree, obviously I bother watching it, but it's far from the best thing on the tube, certainly in part to its writing.


read: sarcastic

[taphntm]

On another note, this show has great screenwriters. The Russian President and Russian First Lady really carried on a great conversation with Martha.
I was on the edge of my seat every time!! I kept thinking, oh man! another part of our american history I'm going to learn :babe !

[taphntm]

How do you do the spoiler tags?
[please don't ban me][/please don't ban me]

[junior94]

read: sarcastic

My apologies, understood. was gonna say... :rolleyes

:lol :lol (oh wait, I did say :p )

[taphntm]

My apologies, understood. was gonna say... :rolleyes

:lol :lol (oh wait, I did say :p )
next time use these: [oops][/ oops]

[GSUdawg521]

How could it be illegal. You can get the show for free, if you live in an area where you can pick up fox on an antenna. You can't buy the show, therefore it isn't illegal to download it.

I was just trying to clear it up. See, it must've been other people talking about downloading this season's episodes that confused me into thinking no one cared about downloading any episodes on BT last month. Yet, you chewed me out making a reference to 'what if I was doing the same with DMB's music?' (which I don't)

Okay, I see how it's legal cuz it's not for sale yet, but the Mods had a strict policy on here in the weeks before Stand Up came out that anyone posting downloads for the tracks would be banned as it was illegal...

[@drian]

I was just trying to clear it up. See, it must've been other people talking about downloading this season's episodes that confused me into thinking no one cared about downloading any episodes on BT last month. Yet, you chewed me out making a reference to 'what if I was doing the same with DMB's music?' (which I don't)

Okay, I see how it's legal cuz it's not for sale yet, but the Mods had a strict policy on here in the weeks before Stand Up came out that anyone posting downloads for the tracks would be banned as it was illegal...

Yes that makes sense. Downloading seasons 1-4 off of a torrent site would be Illegal because you can buy the dvds. Since season 5 isnt out yet on dvd, it is not illegal to d/l them. At least that is what I think.

Downloading DMB music weeks before it comes out is not the same as downloading 24 which is months and months and months away from coming out on dvd.

Even when it does come out, Im pretty sure the copies I have now won't become illegal once the dvds come out, because they are the TV versions. Much like you can tape the show at home, on a vcr or dvr.

This same thing happened with the WOTR PBS special, it was legal for us to share that because it was on PBS; it would however be illegal to share the dvd version.

[marlin1805]

Wow, that was one of the best episodes of the season ... can't wait til next monday for the two hour episode

[GSUdawg521]

Yes that makes sense. Downloading seasons 1-4 off of a torrent site would be Illegal because you can buy the dvds. Since season 5 isnt out yet on dvd, it is not illegal to d/l them. At least that is what I think.

Downloading DMB music weeks before it comes out is not the same as downloading 24 which is months and months and months away from coming out on dvd.

Even when it does come out, Im pretty sure the copies I have now won't become illegal once the dvds come out, because they are the TV versions. Much like you can tape the show at home, on a vcr or dvr.

This same thing happened with the WOTR PBS special, it was legal for us to share that because it was on PBS; it would however be illegal to share the dvd version.

Hmm, so are you saying if the BT's of seasons 1-4 were just tv rips then it would be okay? I never thought of it like that. Kinda like a taper version of a show that was released by the band.

[@drian]

Hmm, so are you saying if the BT's of seasons 1-4 were just tv rips then it would be okay? I never thought of it like that. Kinda like a taper version of a show that was released by the band.

I really don't think there is anything wrong with it, but I do think the law is very grey in that area. It would be hard to find a taper version of old seasons of 24 when the dvd versions are out, and much better quality I'm sure.

[killymagee2000]

Yes that makes sense. Downloading seasons 1-4 off of a torrent site would be Illegal because you can buy the dvds. Since season 5 isnt out yet on dvd, it is not illegal to d/l them. At least that is what I think.

Downloading DMB music weeks before it comes out is not the same as downloading 24 which is months and months and months away from coming out on dvd.

Even when it does come out, Im pretty sure the copies I have now won't become illegal once the dvds come out, because they are the TV versions. Much like you can tape the show at home, on a vcr or dvr.

This same thing happened with the WOTR PBS special, it was legal for us to share that because it was on PBS; it would however be illegal to share the dvd version.

Sorry to tell you this, but torrenting episodes of Season 5, regardless of the fact that it has not come out on DVD, is illegal. Fox creates the show. Fox sells the rights to broadcast the show, which they create, to various companies, such as Rogers, Cogeco, Shaw and the like. You pay Rogers, Cogeco or Shaw a certain amount of money per month in order to use their services, including watching television shows created and distributed by Fox. That is how Fox makes their money. By downloading shows via bitirrent, you are circumventing paying the distributor (i.e., Rogers) who has the sole right to distrubute shows created by Fox. This is also known as stealing. The fact that Season 5 has not been released on DVD has no bearing on whether you are entitled to download it via bitorrent.

Your argument essentially equates to this: It is ok for me to swipe a pack of bubblegum if the pack of bubblegum has has not yet been put on the shelf for sale at my local convenience store.

[@drian]

Sorry to tell you this, but torrenting episodes of Season 5, regardless of the fact that it has not come out on DVD, is illegal. Fox creates the show. Fox sells the rights to broadcast the show, which they create, to various companies, such as Rogers, Cogeco, Shaw and the like. You pay Rogers, Cogeco or Shaw a certain amount of money per month in order to use their services, including watching television shows created and distributed by Fox. That is how Fox makes their money. By downloading shows via bitirrent, you are circumventing paying the distributor (i.e., Rogers) who has the sole right to distrubute shows created by Fox. This is also known as stealing. The fact that Season 5 has not been released on DVD has no bearing on whether you are entitled to download it via bitorrent.

Your argument essentially equates to this: It is ok for me to swipe a pack of bubblegum if the pack of bubblegum has has not yet been put on the shelf for sale at my local convenience store.


Well the only problem with that is, I can get 24 for free via my antenna I have hooked up. Which is legal. I d/l the show though because I can hardly make out what is happening on the screen with all the static.

Fox makes most of there money via adverstising; not selling the rights to there show. The only problem with me d/ling torrents to them, would be I don't see any of the commercials.

The bubble Gum anaolgy makes no sense, because there isn't bubble gum floating through the air for free, which you can pick up via an antenna.

[killymagee2000]

Well the only problem with that is, I can get 24 for free via my antenna I have hooked up. Which is legal. I d/l the show though because I can hardly make out what is happening on the screen with all the static.

Fox makes most of there money via adverstising; not selling the rights to there show. The only problem with me d/ling torrents to them, would be I don't see any of the commercials.

The bubble Gum anaolgy makes no sense, because there isn't bubble gum floating through the air for free, which you can pick up via an antenna.

Well I can't speak to your antenna specifically. But regardless of its reception, you still don't have legal authority to download the episodes via bitorrent. There's no justification. If you want to watch 24 in HD, for example, you have to pay for it.

Fox does make money via advertising, but that is a moot point. Fox owns the rights to the show and, as such, has the right to do with it as they please. One of the rights they have is to distribute the show in a manner they see fit. If they authorized legal bitorrenting of the show, then all would be fine. They do not. In order to watch 24, you must do so through Fox, or an authorized distributor, such as Global.

As for my bubblegum analogy, I stand by it. Don't look at the superficial differences between bubblegum and a television show. Both are products, consumed by individuals, for which consumption money has to be paid. If, somehow, you are consuming the product (i.e., chewing bubblegum or watching 24) without paying for it, then you are stealing.

Is it legal to torrent a movie that has yet to be released in theatres or on DVD? Is it legal to download songs from an album that has yet to be released?

[@drian]

Is it legal to torrent a movie that has yet to be released in theatres or on DVD? Is it legal to download songs from an album that has yet to be released?

If you can get the movie or album for free legaly ie: the radio, or antenna tv. I don't see the big deal. If someone can produce an offical document that says you are not allowed to watch 24, unless you do so by paying for cable, or using an antenna. I would consider not torrenting the show.

[@drian]

I was actualy thinking a lot about last nights show, specificaly when Jack realized that he was locked in the room with a bomb. At first when he said 'Oh god you are so stupid' I thought Jack meant Robocop was stupid.

Then I realized that Jack was talking to himself, calling himself stupid. Which makes sense, old Jack would have never let himself get into that situation.

I love this new side of Jack because it makes so much sense. After he has lost so much, his wife, his daughter, and his own life/identity, it would be stupid for him to be acting the same way he did in previous seasons.

[junior94]

I was actualy thinking a lot about last nights show, specificaly when Jack realized that he was locked in the room with a bomb. At first when he said 'Oh god you are so stupid' I thought Jack meant Robocop was stupid.

Then I realized that Jack was talking to himself, calling himself stupid. Which makes sense, old Jack would have never let himself get into that situation.

I love this new side of Jack because it makes so much sense. After he has lost so much, his wife, his daughter, and his own life/identity, it would be stupid for him to be acting the same way he did in previous seasons.

Well Kiefer did say that Jack would definitely be more outwardly emotional this season than in ones past.

[@drian]

Well Kiefer did say that Jack would definitely be more outwardly emotional this season than in ones past.

I didn't read/hear that, but I sure am glad. One of my favorite scenes was when Jack just broke down and started crying in his ford suv. I think it was season 3, after he chopped off Kim's bf's arm. Sorry I can't remember his name.

[CrashIntoThis]

hellooooo :p

[dobyblue]

Sweet, sweet episode last night. I was just on pins and needles waiting to see if Agent Pierce was going ot be ok, he's one of my favourite characters.
Nina and George being mentioned in last night's ep was pretty cool.
2 hours next Monday - now that's a cure for the Mondays right there if I've ever heard of one!!! (Not that every Monday isn't an acceptable event during a season of 24)
Brilliant, brilliant episode and so far an awesome season. Peter Weller, somehow landing a role in the great 24 after that awful made for TV Poseidon Adventure, did a great job and I thought it was so cool that Jack made that mistake....I guess he is human after all.
Season 5 is right up there with 2 and 3 as my favourite seasons. Callery is doing a blinding job with the score this year.
I didn't read/hear that, but I sure am glad. One of my favorite scenes was when Jack just broke down and started crying in his ford suv. I think it was season 3, after he chopped off Kim's bf's arm. Sorry I can't remember his name.
S3.24; Chase.

[@drian]

Sweet, sweet episode last night. I was just on pins and needles waiting to see if Agent Pierce was going ot be ok, he's one of my favourite characters.
Nina and George being mentioned in last night's ep was pretty cool.
2 hours next Monday - now that's a cure for the Mondays right there if I've ever heard of one!!! (Not that every Monday isn't an acceptable event during a season of 24)
Brilliant, brilliant episode and so far an awesome season. Peter Weller, somehow landing a role in the great 24 after that awful made for TV Poseidon Adventure, did a great job and I thought it was so cool that Jack made that mistake....I guess he is human after all.
Season 5 is right up there with 2 and 3 as my favourite seasons. Callery is doing a blinding job with the score this year.

S3.24; Chase.

Yes thank you!

I remember kiefer was pretty pissed about how they ended S2, The ending of S3 was incredible.

[@drian]

Posted this in the Lost thread, I thought I would post it here as well.

I think it is hillarious that it took 133 days to show 11 episodes of lost, an average of 1 episode per 12 days.

In 49 days, 24 will have shown 12 episodes an average of 1 episode every 4 days.

[GSUdawg521]

If you can get the movie or album for free legaly ie: the radio, or antenna tv. I don't see the big deal. If someone can produce an offical document that says you are not allowed to watch 24, unless you do so by paying for cable, or using an antenna. I would consider not torrenting the show.

Are you serious? When you were arguing with me you were saying "do you think it's okay to download music just because it's streaming for free on a site?" This is starting to piss me off. Everyone got on my back for this, then I got banned for a month.

[@drian]

Are you serious? When you were arguing with me you were saying "do you think it's okay to download music just because it's streaming for free on a site?" This is starting to piss me off. Everyone got on my back for this, then I got banned for a month.

I don't ever remember saying that. If you can show me where that would be great. I really don't remember ever saying that. All I remember is you wanting to d/l seasons 1-4 of 24, and I said something about buy the dvds.

[GSUdawg521]

I don't ever remember saying that. If you can show me where that would be great. I really don't remember ever saying that. All I remember is you wanting to d/l seasons 1-4 of 24, and I said something about buy the dvds.

Sorry you're right, I backread and it was someone else who made that argument, one contrary to what you're saying is legal. You were in line arguing with me before about it (I admitted I was wrong) except for after Matt's post (quoting the post that got me banned) you did say:

amen, this guy doens't deserve to be in this thread...


would we tolerate this shit, if he was over on the dmb side of the forum saying how he just steals all his dmb music...?

i dont think so...

Which was kinda harsh, and I said I don't do that. The misunderstanding anyway was my sarcasm. I used the Jack icon, whereas maybe I should've used a :p, the rule mentioned here. (http://antsmarching.org/forum/faq.php?faq=forumguidelines#faq_toneofpost)

[@drian]

Sorry you're right, I backread and it was someone else who made that argument, one contrary to what you're saying is legal. You were in line arguing with me before about it (I admitted I was wrong) except for after Matt's post (quoting the post that got me banned) you did say:



Which was kinda harsh, and I said I don't do that. The misunderstanding anyway was my sarcasm. I used the Jack icon, whereas maybe I should've used a :p, the rule mentioned here. (http://antsmarching.org/forum/faq.php?faq=forumguidelines#faq_toneofpost)

You are right I was harsh, and I am sorry :twenty4 oops I mean :p
No seriously though reading what I wrote makes me feel bad. I am sorry.

[GSUdawg521]

You are right I was harsh, and I am sorry :twenty4 oops I mean :p
No seriously though reading what I wrote makes me feel bad. I am sorry.

Hey that really means a lot to me. You were kinda on my shit list for the boards, where a few other names have managed to make it, for it. But I really appreciate the gesture. I also know I was wrong in trying to fight everbody.

:hug

PS- you're hot, wanna go out sometime? :p :lol :lol

[@drian]

Hey that really means a lot to me. You were kinda on my shit list for the boards, where a few other names have managed to make it, for it. But I really appreciate the gesture. I also know I was wrong in trying to fight everbody.

:hug

PS- you're hot, wanna go out sometime? :p :lol :lol

Hey man no problem, sorry I was on your shit list. I don't know what else I did to you.

[GSUdawg521]

Hey man no problem, sorry I was on your shit list. I don't know what else I did to you.

Nah there was nothing else I don't believe.

[@drian]

Nah there was nothing else I don't believe.

So you just didn't like the cut of my jib?

[GSUdawg521]

So you just didn't like the cut of my jib?

I don't know what that means, is that some crazy Canuck slang? :lol

edit: no no, it was really just that post I guess :shrug

Hey, Chloe is on Conan right now. She just mentioned reading somewhere about her facing being like a potato :lol Funny story she just told though!

[DaveismyWeapon]

I don't know what that means, is that some crazy Canuck slang? :lol

edit: no no, it was really just that post I guess :shrug

Hey, Chloe is on Conan right now. She just mentioned reading somewhere about her facing being like a potato :lol Funny story she just told though!
LOl, she's crackin' me up

[GSUdawg521]

LOl, she's crackin' me up

Yeah I can't tell if she's funny or if she actually is a little retarded :lol

[twk13]

so, I just watched it tonite (friend tivod it), AWESOME

[@drian]

so, I just watched it tonite (friend tivod it), AWESOME

May or may not be illegal.

[twk13]

May or may not be illegal.you would say that

[lillerfm]

I didn't read/hear that, but I sure am glad. One of my favorite scenes was when Jack just broke down and started crying in his ford suv. I think it was season 3, after he chopped off Kim's bf's arm. Sorry I can't remember his name.

Anakin Skywalker

[baloneybandit21]

Posted this in the Lost thread, I thought I would post it here as well.

I think it is hillarious that it took 133 days to show 11 episodes of lost, an average of 1 episode per 12 days.

In 49 days, 24 will have shown 12 episodes an average of 1 episode every 4 days.

god damn i hate that about lost they always skip random weeks which pisses me off so much when i sit down to watch it and it ends up being old and ruins my night. i love that 24 waits until the second week of january to start the season so there are no breaks. lost=mean to their fans 24=love their fans

[baloneybandit21]

has anyone else played 24 the game yet i got it tues and i frickin love that game its one of the best ive played in a while, so much fun. everyone should go out and get it

[baloneybandit21]

also, (sorry about the triple post, but i realized one after the other there was another topic i wanted to talk about), with the downloading episodes being illegal or legal, if a tv network shows a movie its still illegal to download it because they paid for the rights and got permission for who ever owns the rights. the same thing goes for tv shows, so its illegal to dl episodes that havent been released on dvd yet cuz the rights are still owned. that said i dont have anything against people who dl them

[@drian]

Hey I am getting a puppy in a couple of days, and I am thinking of naming him Bauer. How does that sounds? Agent Jack Bauer would be his full name.

[greg87lax]

Hey I am getting a puppy in a couple of days, and I am thinking of naming him Bauer. How does that sounds? Agent Jack Bauer would be his full name.
haha
That'd be excellent
:thumbsup

[@drian]

Haha it is a Jack Russel Terrier so I thought it would be fitting. Since they don't like to be told what to do.

[GSUdawg521]

Holy crap you'll have to teach him to do shoulder rolls :lol :lol :lol

[Dougie981641]

Hey I am getting a puppy in a couple of days, and I am thinking of naming him Bauer. How does that sounds? Agent Jack Bauer would be his full name.

That would be amazing

[@drian]

Holy crap you'll have to teach him to do shoulder rolls :lol :lol :lol

Oh hellllls yah! :hump

[GSUdawg521]

Oh hellllls yah! :hump

:lol I can just see him running through the house, coming to a doorway and dropping is front right paw underneath him and flipping over forward and on his side before righting himself and looking around the room suspiciously.

[greg87lax]

you're also going to need to get him some aviator sunglasses, and maybe even a gun

[@drian]

you're also going to need to get him some aviator sunglasses, and maybe even a gun

That would be B.A! Bad Ass... My dog is going to be a BAMF, a Bad Ass Mother Fucker!

[GSUdawg521]

Oh yeah I just remembered something else I wanted to post in here that apparently hasn't already.

Anyone else see before that Kiefer Sutherland's birthname is Kiefer William Frederick Dempsey George Rufus Sutherland?!?!?!

Holy shit that's a long name!

Oh and I knew of his dad from a few movies but didn't know it was his dad.

(all this from imdb)

[greg87lax]

his dad is awesome
:thumbsup

[@drian]

Yup also all Canadians!!!!!

Keifers like great grandpa is pretty much the founder of the Health system we (canada) have today.

[@drian]

Everyone meet Agent Jack Bauer (http://http://www.petfinder.com/fotos/ON134/ON134.5715954-1-x.jpg)

[mr.MikeD]

Yup also all Canadians!!!!!

Keifers like great grandpa is pretty much the founder of the Health system we (canada) have today.

i find it funny that the all american hero terrorist fighter is directly descended from a highly socialist politican, and even worse, is a canadian.

[@drian]

i find it funny that the all american hero terrorist fighter is directly descended from a highly socialist politican, and even worse, is a canadian.

Hillarious indeed. 24 is so canadian, there is tons of talent on there from up here, including producers and directors.

[GSUdawg521]

Everyone meet Agent Jack Bauer (http://http://www.petfinder.com/fotos/ON134/ON134.5715954-1-x.jpg)

Cool, so is that your dog in the Antispyware ad? The woman with the giant teeth?




(:lol something wrong with your link)

[@drian]

Cool, so is that your dog in the Antispyware ad? The woman with the giant teeth?




(:lol something wrong with your link)

DAMN YOU!

Sorry if you want to see him you will just have to scroll down on this page http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=1&pet.Shelterid=ON134&preview=1
his old name was POGO. I know I am mean for changing his name, but there is no way I am calling him POGO.

I guess just try that link. I adopted him, he is just under a year old.

[GSUdawg521]

What's the story, Wishbone?

[@drian]

What's the story, Wishbone?

The story is I have wanted a dog for sometime now. I mentioned this to my dad, and I said I didn't want to spend $500 though. He told me he knew someone that was looking after a dog until they found a home for him. So I went through an adoption process with that site, and now the lil guy is mine :)

[baloneybandit21]

just in case anyone wanted an update, finished the game great ending answered some questions about the end of season 2 and beginning of season 3

[GSUdawg521]

The story is I have wanted a dog for sometime now. I mentioned this to my dad, and I said I didn't want to spend $500 though. He told me he knew someone that was looking after a dog until they found a home for him. So I went through an adoption process with that site, and now the lil guy is mine :)

Yeah adoption is always a good way to go. Good deal and in some cases, you might saving the little guy (or girl)'s life and they're grateful for it :thumbsup

Did you really not know who Wishbone was though? :p

[@drian]

Yeah adoption is always a good way to go. Good deal and in some cases, you might saving the little guy (or girl)'s life and they're grateful for it :thumbsup

Did you really not know who Wishbone was though? :p

Yah I know who wishbone is. I have never seen the show though.

[Boondock Saint]

Hello, hello....

[junior94]

Dayyum... I didn't get to see the previews for this week's new 2 hours until just earlier tonight, hubba hubba... Kimmy's looking mighty delish for her return :hump :evil *grrrrooowwwllll* :cool

[@drian]

Dayyum... I didn't get to see the previews for this week's new 2 hours until just earlier tonight, hubba hubba... Kimmy's looking mighty delish for her return :hump :evil *grrrrooowwwllll* :cool

That would be a spoiler :BANG

At least in this thread it is.

[junior94]

That would be a spoiler :BANG

At least in this thread it is.

oh c'mon Adrian, you gotta get off this man. Nobody counts what's shown immediately at the end of the episode for the following week's show (which is seen by millions of people) as a spoiler. It's not very reasonable to count that as such and make a whole stir about it.

Now if I said that in 4 weeks that Tony wakes up but gets shot and killed by some other mole inside CTU, than yea that's most definitely spoiler material and whoever talks about it openly should get reprimanded accordingly, but c'mon you can't say the teaser for next week is.

[Bartender84]

oh c'mon Adrian, you gotta get off this man. Nobody counts what's shown immediately at the end of the episode for the following week's show (which is seen by millions of people) as a spoiler. It's not very reasonable to count that as such and make a whole stir about it.

Now if I said that in 4 weeks that Tony wakes up but gets shot and killed by some other mole inside CTU, than yea that's most definitely spoiler material and whoever talks about it openly should get reprimanded accordingly, but c'mon you can't say the teaser for next week is.
Alot of the people in this thread avoid watching the previews because they typically give away too much about the next episode. I think everyone here should respect their wishes and simply discuss the previews using spoiler tags.

[@drian]

oh c'mon Adrian, you gotta get off this man. Nobody counts what's shown immediately at the end of the episode for the following week's show (which is seen by millions of people) as a spoiler. It's not very reasonable to count that as such and make a whole stir about it.

Now if I said that in 4 weeks that Tony wakes up but gets shot and killed by some other mole inside CTU, than yea that's most definitely spoiler material and whoever talks about it openly should get reprimanded accordingly, but c'mon you can't say the teaser for next week is.


Hey man I was just doing you a favor, thinking you would put that in spoiler tags before matt saw it. Matt is the one who made that rule in this thread not me. I just don't want to see you get banned.

I realize not everyone thinks previews are spoilers, that's why I said 'at least in this thread it is'

[Gater1848]

After reading some of your posts, I'm thinking about not watching the previews anymore....

[@drian]

After reading some of your posts, I'm thinking about not watching the previews anymore....

Especialy for 24, the ammount that is spoiled in 24 previews is nuts. I mean like in Lost previews they will just tease you, they will show something amazing and then it will turn out to be someones dream. That is never the case in 24.

[Pipsqueak]

Dayyum... I didn't get to see the previews for this week's new 2 hours until just earlier tonight, hubba hubba... [snip] :hump :evil *grrrrooowwwllll* :cool


yeah....that really wasn't very cool.

I don't watch previews for this reason. Now the shock factor of this person coming back is diminished.

not trying to be mean to you......but there are some pretty hardcore fans in here...myself included.

:shrug :shrug :shrug

[junior94]

:rolleyes ...

[GSUdawg521]

:violent I just got a new job and they want me to work Monday 4-9 (which means 9:15, which means getting home at ~9:30)

I dunno what to do. Though I already said I have a big test tuesday, which is true, and I'd like to duck out at like 7:30 :)

[@drian]

:rolleyes ...

You know people in here do not want to be spoiled by information obtained from previews; but you refuse to aknowledge our choice. Is it really that difficult for you to type [ SPOILER ] [ /SPOILER ] around your text?

Either you forgot, or you are just being an ass. Which one is it?

[Bron Yr Aur]

Well, to the discussion of the show itself...I've actually just started watching this show this season, and have seen some random shows from other seasons on A&E and WGN lately...saw the last 4 episodes of S2 last night and tonight, and am really thinking about picking up the DVD's...they are just so damn expensive, however...

Anyway, how do you diehard 24 fans feel this season compares to the previous ones?

I haven't really seen much of anything from Seasons 3 or 4, but I think, from what I've seen, that 1 and 2 seemed a bit better. However, I really won't know until I watch more of the past seasons to get to know the entire story.

[@drian]

Anyway, how do you diehard 24 fans feel this season compares to the previous ones?

This is how I would rate them:

3
2
1
5 (so far)
4

[Bartender84]

3
1
5 (so far)
2
4

[DMB6800]

ahhhhh....you gotta love 2 hours....just under 11 hours to go

[UNC41]

Shit is going down tonight.

[bdfresh62]

Whoa! I almost forgot completely about 24 tonight until my mom called and reminded me. I had a long weekend. 2 hours of 24 makes up for it though.

[Dougie981641]

Can't wait for the two hours tonight, friends!

[Trippin4136]

and whats better than 2 hour new 24? 4 hours of s1 on A&E...i love coming back from my 1 class on mondays and seeing all this 24.

[@drian]

In the states are you getting 2 hours back to back? Because up here in Canada we get 24 at 8-9 the Apprentice 9-10 then 24 10-11. It is dumb, but the station we get 24 on up here also shows apprentice. So I guess they really want us to watch Apprentice.

[Designer43]

Tonight is going to kick ass!!!! :thumbsup

[364041Scott]

In the states are you getting 2 hours back to back? Because up here in Canada we get 24 at 8-9 the Apprentice 9-10 then 24 10-11. It is dumb, but the station we get 24 on up here also shows apprentice. So I guess they really want us to watch Apprentice.


Yes it is on 8:00pm to10:00pm tonight (EST).

I agree, I think tonights eposide is will kick some serious ass.

The clock is ticking.

[Tak_a_Tak]

Yes it is on 8:00pm to10:00pm tonight (EST).

I agree, I think tonights eposide is will kick some serious ass.

The clock is ticking.

Ohhh, what the hell do you know?!?!?


:violent


:evil

[@drian]

Junior,

Are you fucking stupid?

Next person to post a spoiler publically gets a nice lifetime & IP ban.

This was Matt's last post, which was over a month ago. I wonder where he has been?

[bdb23]

:twenty4

[bdb23]

So far so good.

[ProudestAnt]

She's lying!

[bdb23]

You think??? :D Jack gave her a pass.

[bdb23]

10 minute timer??? :lol

[ProudestAnt]

That's hardcore...

[clayj41]

That was awesome!!!:twenty4

[bdb23]

WOW!!! :twenty4

[bdb23]

Damn. That was tense shit.

[ProudestAnt]

Wow, that's kinda sad, kinda not. She should have given Rudy his card...

[clayj41]

Really good first hour........right into another hour!:multi

[bdb23]

Yep.

[bdb23]

Kim!!!!

[greg87lax]

my listings said it started at 8....NOT 7.....now i missed a whole hour

[bdb23]

she is so f-ing hot!!!

:hump

[clayj41]

my listings said it started at 8....NOT 7.....now i missed a whole hour

That sucks! At least you can get a torrent of it though.:shrug

[Mark]

i love it when the canadian simulcast shows 24 an hour early. the 2nd hour is fucking sweet

[bdb23]

Go away Canadian.

[clayj41]

Go away Canadian.

:thumbsup :lol

[ProudestAnt]

Who the fuck is he? Jack's about to end him...

[bdb23]

You know what, tell her everyone who knew he was alive was killed or nearly killed today. Damn Kim, get over it.