Official 24 Discussion (Greatest Show Ever)

[bdb23]

Start it. :twenty4

[bdb23]

Kim really needs to leave CTU. I'm not liking that.

[Mark]

Go away Canadian.
:glare

[bdb23]

:dq :D

[Mark]

you are posting both here and there. :loser

[bdb23]

:shrug

[bdb23]

I need friends. Sorry.

[Mark]

:shrug
:lol

:carlos

[ProudestAnt]

X-Men 3 preview...

[bdb23]

Yep.

[ProudestAnt]

Meh...

[clayj41]

Meh...

I liked it. It totally sucked me in!:lol

[clayj41]

Thank you Chloe!!!

[ProudestAnt]

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit......

[clayj41]

Oh My God!!!

[kelme]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ProudestAnt]

That's depressing as fuck...

[brendangen412]

whoa

[dmb1spe]

holy shit balls.

[brendangen412]

that was fucked

[Tak_a_Tak]

son of a bitch..............

[JimiThang1]

Silent clock...guess he's a goner...

[ProudestAnt]

Wow, can't wait to see what happens next week. That episode just left me speachless...

[clayj41]

Wow, can't wait to see what happens next week. That episode just left me speachless...

:thumbsup Its not often that I can say that either. I usually just take whatever happens on the show in stride and don't really care, but that was really emotional. Great episodes tonight, and this season is shaping up well.

[baloneybandit21]

Noooooooo Edgaaaaaar!!!!!!

[Tak_a_Tak]

Wow, can't wait to see what happens next week. That episode just left me speachless...

:thumbsup

That is the best hour of TV I've seen in a long time.....maybe ever.

[baloneybandit21]

Wow, can't wait to see what happens next week. That episode just left me speachless...

same here. just as i thought that it was getting (not trying to be blasphemous, cuz dont get me wrong i love this show as much as anyone) a lil repetitive, they come out with this. next week's situation has never been done or something like it in the 5 seasons thus far, so im really interested and CANNOT WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK!

[UNC41]

RIP Edgar

[dobyblue]

Totally silent clock as well which was very cool, not just the lack of the beep, but no background noise either.
That hasn't happened since S3.18
Great music tonight by Callery, especially when Vincent was loading up the first container into the guerney at the hospital.
C Thomas Howell as Kim's boyfriend, has he ever changed from the glory days of the Outsiders and Soul Man. I saw him in that awful made for TV version of Poseidon Adventure (waste of 3.5 hours if I've ever seen one) featuring everyone that's disappeared including amongst others Steve Guttenburg, Rutget Hauer, Bryan Brown and Peter Weller.
Very sad to see Edgar go and Chloe's expression at the door was very moving. Lynn is a total idiot and I blame Edgar's death on his failure to report his key card stolen much earlier. What a tool.
This season shows no signs of slowing down!!!!

[Franchize41]

that was crazy

[AlpineValley804]

Wha...wow...Stunned. The most epic 24 Episode since Season 2 10-11 am (the one when the nuclear bomb goes off). RIP Edgar

...And please tell me isolation is where Tony is at.

[AlpineValley804]

And to think that after this episode, I thought we'd be discussing the X-men 3 trailer.

[ah1252]

the medical part of CTU is isolated

[AlpineValley804]

Awesome. Thank you.

[UglyNakedGuy]

The only thing that gets me is the lack of security in this show (But I guess you can expect it since it is tv). For example, that dude got into CTU with Lynn's card so fucking easily. I doubt you can just take a keycard and put your picture on it and not be questioned :lol But maybe I am wrong. You would think the guard woulda been like I've never seen you before yet you have a high level keycard, who are you here to see or whatever.

Anyways, this season is kicking ass so far. I can't wait to see next week.

That was badass when Jack shot that fucker's wife in the leg. Henderson is one cold hearted fuck for not caring about his own wife.

[dobyblue]

Pretty strange - at one point tonight they said that March 20th would be an all new episode, then after the end of the second hour they said that next week 24 will be back at its regular time of 9pm.
IMDb lists the next episode as not airing until March 20th, when Prison Break returns. They also have an incredibly exciting guest listed for the next episode - check it yourself if you want to know but DONT post it in here.
The official site is not updated yet, but IMDb is not often too far off the mark. I hope we don't have to wait two weeks for the next episode! :) I'm sure by the morning www.fox.com/24 will show the air time of whether or not it's next week or the week after.

How about that new X3 trailer? Looked sweet!

[UglyNakedGuy]

Wha...wow...Stunned. The most epic 24 Episode since Season 2 10-11 am (the one when the nuclear bomb goes off). RIP Edgar

...And please tell me isolation is where Tony is at.

I was wondering about Tony too, hope he is ok.

[dobyblue]

That was badass when Jack shot that fucker's wife in the leg. Henderson is one cold hearted fuck for not caring about his own wife.
:thumbsup

Jack's look when he realised he wasn't going to give up info even if it meant his wife's life was priceless.

[AlpineValley804]

X3 looks awesome. Not a huge fan of the previous two movies, but they were good. But I'm actually looking forward to this one...a lot.

:thumbsup on Jack shooting the wife in the leg. I thought he would threaten the guy that he'd shoot her in the knee. Never expected that he would just shoot her.

[clayj41]

X3 looks awesome. Not a huge fan of the previous two movies, but they were good. But I'm actually looking forward to this one...a lot.

:thumbsup on Jack shooting the wife in the leg. I thought he would threaten the guy that he'd shoot her in the knee. Never expected that he would just shoot her.

X2 was good, but X3 looks unbelievable!


....and yeah, when Jack shot her in the leg I became really excited!:lol

[bdfresh62]

Wow! 2 great episodes. Is it wrong to laugh at the awesomeness of Jack Bauer when he shot Henderson's wife in the leg? And again, Curtis is the man.

Edgar going was so sad. I knew he was a goner when he went to go look for Karen or whatever her name is. The silent clock was a nice effect.

[golf87]

Is Kim's guy Barry her psychologist or boyfriend? I missed it

[Dougie981641]

wow, just wow. i am still in shock

[Tiduwho]

Wow, I haven't been that floored from a TV show in a LONG time. That ending was amazing, I was a huge Edgar fan last year and I thought he played his part very well. STUPID Samwise Genji! Man, that Vice President guy seems like a commanding idiot. Strictly business type guy. Kim's BF already sounds pretty cocky and know-it-allish.

I've got a bad feeling about next week. About who's going to make the "sacrifice". I think we all know who it is, but just don't want to think it. He's already lost his wife and everything he knew....

[clayj41]

Is Kim's guy Barry her psychologist or boyfriend? I missed it

I think he's both from what I got out of it. He must be thinking, "What the fuck did I get myself into!":lol

[clayj41]

Wow, I haven't been that floored from a TV show in a LONG time. That ending was amazing, I was a huge Edgar fan last year and I thought he played his part very well. STUPID Samwise Genji! Man, that Vice President guy seems like a commanding idiot. Strictly business type guy. Kim's BF already sounds pretty cocky and know-it-allish.

I've got a bad feeling about next week. About who's going to make the "sacrifice". I think we all know who it is, but just don't want to think it. He's already lost his wife and everything he knew....

I suggest you put spoiler tags around that last paragraph!

.....oh, and its Samwise GAMGEE!;)

[WolfmanDMB]

next week is about them getting out of the room that they are locked down in. the week after that with prison break they are outside of CTU where it looks like they find the rest of the canisters

spoiler sums up that 24 will go on without a week break but in spoilers because of previews.

[AlpineValley804]

Yeah, Kim's boyfriend seems like an asshole straight from hell. He's got a lot of nerve talking to Jack like that.

[johnpcoyne]

poor edgar....why do they have to kill the computer geek off?

[coyn113]

i just got into this show, i resisted for a long time but over the weekend i watched season one and now im on season two, i must it admit the show is pretty awesome

although it is really rediculous most of the time i still like it
jack bauer is pretty much the man, im anxious to catch up to season 5

[taphntm]

:lorraine NO NO!! I HATE YOU 24 I HATE YOU!! :lorraine :lorraine :lorraine :lorraine :lorraine

[taphntm]

EDGAR IS GONE!!! :lorraine


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what is it with the president... he is just made to make the worst possible decision every time or what???

[AlpineValley804]

I'm curious to see where this apparant relationship with Aaron and Martha goes.

[clayj41]

what is it with the president... he is just made to make the worst possible decision every time or what???

:thumbsup I wish Mike was the President. There would be far less problems.

[ProudestAnt]

Wow, I haven't been that floored from a TV show in a LONG time. That ending was amazing, I was a huge Edgar fan last year and I thought he played his part very well. STUPID Samwise Genji! Man, that Vice President guy seems like a commanding idiot. Strictly business type guy. Kim's BF already sounds pretty cocky and know-it-allish.

I've got a bad feeling about next week. About who's going to make the "sacrifice". I think we all know who it is, but just don't want to think it. He's already lost his wife and everything he knew....Wow sweet, because, you know, people don't avoid the trailer at the end of the show on purpose or anything. Fucking dbag asshole...

[taphntm]

Edgar going was so sad. I knew he was a goner when he went to go look for Karen or whatever her name is. The silent clock was a nice effect.
it almost made me laugh, but instead I cried ..... .. . ... :lorraine

[Franchize41]

Wow sweet, because, you know, people don't avoid the trailer at the end of the show on purpose or anything. Fucking dbag asshole...

people are always gonna do this and I just wish once they could use there head and think "Do people want to know whats gonna happen before it happens?" And its not like its hard to use the tags

[Barkeep]

I'm interested to see if down the road if the Russian president finds out President Logan knew about the attack on the motorcade; which could then end the treaty, and possibly the down fall of his presidency. . . .?

[taphntm]

I guess that for the show they had to do that, but it was rather disappointing that someone would be so stupid to make that decision. And I was sort of disappointed that mike didn't really seem to try and stop him.

[Tiduwho]

Wow sweet, because, you know, people don't avoid the trailer at the end of the show on purpose or anything. Fucking dbag asshole...

I am sorry, and stupid for that. But on this board for some reason you are not allowed to edit your post after 5 minutes have past (what's the reason for that?).

[asmjm39]

Pretty strange - at one point tonight they said that March 20th would be an all new episode, then after the end of the second hour they said that next week 24 will be back at its regular time of 9pm.
IMDb lists the next episode as not airing until March 20th, when Prison Break returns. They also have an incredibly exciting guest listed for the next episode - check it yourself if you want to know but DONT post it in here.
The official site is not updated yet, but IMDb is not often too far off the mark. I hope we don't have to wait two weeks for the next episode! :) I'm sure by the morning www.fox.com/24 will show the air time of whether or not it's next week or the week after.

How about that new X3 trailer? Looked sweet!

I'm not buying that guest. IMDB had Kim coming back weeks ago

[Franchize41]

I'm not buying that guest. IMDB had Kim coming back weeks ago

itd be nice though

[rick8285]

Predictions:
Suvarov finds out about Logan's mistake. Logan resigns, dick-head vice pres becomes pres and fires Mike. Lynn will take the fall in being the one who "saves" them all. Something is up with the "bad" guy saying that "it must look like it was the primary target." If they find more canisters next week, they could be fakes. Just a thought.

Anyone who denies that this is the greatest show on TV can't possibly be correct!

[rick8285]

Pretty strange - at one point tonight they said that March 20th would be an all new episode, then after the end of the second hour they said that next week 24 will be back at its regular time of 9pm.
IMDb lists the next episode as not airing until March 20th, when Prison Break returns. They also have an incredibly exciting guest listed for the next episode - check it yourself if you want to know but DONT post it in here.
The official site is not updated yet, but IMDb is not often too far off the mark. I hope we don't have to wait two weeks for the next episode! :) I'm sure by the morning www.fox.com/24 will show the air time of whether or not it's next week or the week after.

How about that new X3 trailer? Looked sweet!
Wow didn't that X3 trailer look kickass. Is Jean going to become Phoenix? Is Archangel the guy they showed with wings? I thought Beast was a good-guy, did I misinterpret the preview?

[joepsu0985]

Man, that was a great 2 hours of TV. We get some eye candy now that Kim is back. Prez Logan might be in some trouble if word gets out that he set up the attack. I dont like Kim's boyfriend or psychologist or whatever he is, he reminds me of Audrey's husband last year with the cockyness. The ending to this show was pretty intense. !HOW DO YOU KILL EDGAR! WTF! Im pretty pissed off about that. I hope Lynn is done too, but what about Tony? All these questions will be answered soon I hope.

Wtf is INDB doing posing "that guest" that we all know so well. There is no way unless he faked his assination and had something to do with this nerve gas all along. Also I think next weeks episode will be a filler and we might even get some new cast in CTU. I think they will just try to get out of that room for the whole hour next week. I also think this nerve gas will be kicked pretty soon because they show canisters going off for the March 2th episode. Then Kim will screw shit up once again and I bet her b/f will have something to do with it. 24 is finally back into gear. This may be the best season ever if IMDB is correct with that guest. It could be a flashback having to do with his Autobiography that will finally connect us to the terrorists. wow...so many possibilities

[Tiduwho]

Wow sweet, because, you know, people don't avoid the trailer at the end of the show on purpose or anything. Fucking dbag asshole...

Once again, stupid on my part for not thinking of that possibility. But to be honest, no. That thought never entered my head. The one time I missed the trailer I beat myself up about it for a day. Still, stupid of me not to think of that.

[junior94]

Wow, you guys are all very easily impressed. Typical of 24, broad stroke-out all these big, sweeping intense moments to make you gloss over logic defying detail after detail. I mean hey yea I'm a fan of the show, obviously, I watch it, but I am nowhere near as proud as I used to be to call myself a 24 viewer (hell that honeymoon ended during season 2).

1) President Logan. sweet jesus. It's just getting downright embarassing with how dumb of a character they're creating here. The guy is so easily manipulated and makes these such snap decisions, I can't believe I'm saying this but I think they've written a president who could even be more stupid than Bush. I mean yea Bush is damn brainless and be easily puppeted around, but for the love of god!
Hey, VP walks in, chats for 5 minutes says "let's declare martial law!" President Logan: "Sure, okay!"

Um, and how did you come up with those grossly inflated casualty estimates again, Mr VP?
"You can check with my research team on that if you need to know."

hmm, well apparently Logan's not concerned with those kinda pesky details :rolleyes Seems he's virtually made his decision without knowing that the VP could be pulling them outta his ass for all he knows. Okay anyone else wanna toss out a major initiative to implement in a time of severe crisis? C'mon, don't be shy, I'll say yes to just about anything! :lol


2) Kim Bauer. mmm... yummy :hump Ain't no denyin' that. But for chrissakes Kim, not even a friggin' hug? And yea that's right boyfriend, "Your decision was all about you, like all of them have ever been about only what YOU care about!!" Gimme a break, Kim. You know more than well enough the nature of father's career. He made the ultimate sacrifice a father could ever possibly make - give up having you in his life (possible forever, for all Jack knew at the time) solely for your own safety? But sure he's an asshole. Don't get me wrong, it's to be expected that she'd take the news harshly, that it'd totally mix her up inside. But to not even wanna touch him? Damn Kim, that's cold.


3) The actions facilitating the terrorist's planned escape from CTU. Okay, so a professional security guard who's working in a government building dedicated to anti-terrorism (yea, so were not talkin' about a Radio Shack here) that has just been placed on immediate high alert lockdown, so he's not gonna be coming around every corner in a stealth position? Yes I realize he's not a federal agent, but I'd have to think someone trained in working in security at that level, and in a time of major imminent crises like that, he's not simply gonna be running around every corner blindly like that. C'mon.


4) And finally I have a problem with the Edgar death. Once again they stretched believability to manufacture the drama. What in the HELL took Edgar so long to get back to the main floor from that back room?? :ugh I mean I realize he's a fatass but geez. In the last scene in which we saw him, not only had he already realized Carrie was dead, but he was already also walking out the door. The time it took him to show back up on the floor, based on previous timeframes they've shown on this show, there's no way he wouldn't have made it back in time. But admittedly, this is probably my most minor of gripes with this episode. I do like where they left off though. With everyone now stuck in one room that's sealed, and obviously the gas isn't completely taken care of, so that I'm guessing they'll all still have to stay inside that room for at least qutie a bit of next week's show too. That idea has a very Hitchcockian feel to it :cool

[brendangen412]

kim should dump that zero get with the hero :hump


that's right, an incestuous relationship on 24, next week.

and chloe's face when she saw edgar was outside was the saddest thing ever. It was also one of the few times that we saw Jack show any type of emotion at all. I like that they also have teh guy who used to work for CTU (Whose name I forget) kind of being a super jack, that jack can't break down. Best episode of the season so far.

[Beefsteak1138]

This is what I did when Jack shot that lady in the leg: :lol :lol

[brendangen412]

This is what I did when Jack shot that lady in the leg: :lol :lol
yeah, that skanky ho's face was priceless

[brendangen412]

and did rudy die?

[junior94]

This is what I did when Jack shot that lady in the leg: :lol :lol

Oh that's right, that was one other thing I meant to include in my bible-length post. The second had Henderson sit down on the couch next to his wife, I knew Jack was totally gonna use the wife to lean on him with. However, I'll grant that I wouldn't have guessed he would've shot her so quickly, I just thought from the start that he'd just threaten to kill her.

I don't know about Henderson being a "super Jack" to allow him to show some more emotion, but like I said in an earlier post, I did hear Kiefer say in an interview a couple months ago that Jack would be showing more outward emotion moreso this season than in any other. And I mean that reaction of his where he realized Henderson really would've let his wife die was just great. cause part of it was like "oh fuck, that threat's not gonna work then..." :lol

Chloe's face, ya know honestly the first time they showed it with her looking said, where it looked like she mouthed "Edgar", I'll be honest I laughed, it looked so distorted, it was the most awkward sad/worried face I'd ever seen :p And brendangen -- NO, I don't believe Samwise Gamgee is dead. unfortunately. I am glad they already offed his sister. That ugly albino Amanda Plummer wannabe was already gonna be as annoying as hell I could tell.

[brendangen412]

i wish i was in the isolation booth with chloe and kim. we'd have to repopulate the earth. and then id let them cry on my shoulders, since i have 2 of them. and then back to population growth. :hump

[brendangen412]

and as a ps, i would have tried to hold audrey outside of the room

[junior94]

kim should dump that zero get with the hero :hump


that's right, an incestuous relationship on 24, next week.


Hey, if that was my sister, I think I might be goin down the road of the final taboo myself... :rolleyes meeeeeow :cool :evil

[brendangen412]

wow, i just realized the humpy guy was humping in time with Schism by Tool. but anyway, I wish i could talk about the preview for next week, but ill probably fuck up the spoiler so I'm not going to try. 24 last night was on point

[clayj41]

and did rudy die?

No, his office was one of the rooms that could be sealed I believe.

[clayj41]

Wow didn't that X3 trailer look kickass. Is Jean going to become Phoenix? Is Archangel the guy they showed with wings? I thought Beast was a good-guy, did I misinterpret the preview?

Yes, Yes, and Yes, Beast is a good guy.

[brendangen412]

Beast looks like the awesome

[killymagee2000]

Great episode last night. I can't believe Edgar got a silent clock, but Palmer didn't.

[Beefsteak1138]

No, his office was one of the rooms that could be sealed I believe.
Unfortunately.

[clayj41]

Unfortunately.

:thumbsup

[GSUdawg521]

*comes into thread with eyes closed, feeling way around with hands*

I couldn't be home in time to watch it last night, so I'm avoiding it for now. I think my brother recorded. So I'll just skip past every post to make mine, another facebook picture.

I'm friends with "Jack" on facebook here and "he" just updated "his" picture which made me laugh out loud, so I thought I'd share.

Maybe this is a twist for the later half of season 5? :lol
sorry, maybe I should've put that in a spoiler :lol :lol :lol

[clayj41]

The dynamic duo! That's one of the funniest pictures I've ever seen!:lol

[mr.MikeD]

Oh blah...



here's an idea. since you don't seem to like the show, stop watching, and stop posting fucking spoilers, junior.

[mr.MikeD]

so when the head terrorist was on the phone with president weak knees a few eps ago, didn't he say something about having someone else in the government? Am I remembering this correctly?

Also, regarding the henderson thing. I really hope that they develop his story that he isn't telling into something big, that maybe ties up a few loose ends from earlier seasons, especially 2.

[bdfresh62]

Predictions which include spoilers:

According to IMDB next week Mandy is set to return. She has been working with Henderson. I think the VP is also involved somehow, mainly just for his own political gain more than likely. What better way to get the president out of office, than to help with a terrorist attack. Lynn will make the "sacrifice" next week.

[junior94]

Oh and to one other detail that someone questioned about before - there's no doubt in my mind that the Russian president is gonna find out that Logan gave him up. And I'm not entirely sure it'll happen by way of Martha telling him, I got a funny feeling he'll somehow find out on his own.

And speaking of funny feelings and presidents, the moment the VP walked into Logan's office and said he had an "idea" to help (before he even mentioned the martial law plan), it was solidified in my head -- the VP is the other mole in the administration. They keep saying there was another one, besides Walt Cummings and that was higher up the chain. It's the VP: bank it. ;)

[@drian]

I've got a bad feeling about next week. About who's going to make the "sacrifice". I think we all know who it is, but just don't want to think it. He's already lost his wife and everything he knew....


SPOILER BITCH!!!!!! DON'T DO THAT SHIT!

[@drian]

Wow, you guys are all very easily impressed. Typical of 24, broad stroke-out all these big, sweeping intense moments to make you gloss over logic defying detail after detail. I mean hey yea I'm a fan of the show, obviously, I watch it, but I am nowhere near as proud as I used to be to call myself a 24 viewer (hell that honeymoon ended during season 2).

1) President Logan. sweet jesus. It's just getting downright embarassing with how dumb of a character they're creating here. The guy is so easily manipulated and makes these such snap decisions, I can't believe I'm saying this but I think they've written a president who could even be more stupid than Bush. I mean yea Bush is damn brainless and be easily puppeted around, but for the love of god!
Hey, VP walks in, chats for 5 minutes says "let's declare martial law!" President Logan: "Sure, okay!"

Um, and how did you come up with those grossly inflated casualty estimates again, Mr VP?
"You can check with my research team on that if you need to know."

hmm, well apparently Logan's not concerned with those kinda pesky details :rolleyes Seems he's virtually made his decision without knowing that the VP could be pulling them outta his ass for all he knows. Okay anyone else wanna toss out a major initiative to implement in a time of severe crisis? C'mon, don't be shy, I'll say yes to just about anything! :lol


2) Kim Bauer. mmm... yummy :hump Ain't no denyin' that. But for chrissakes Kim, not even a friggin' hug? And yea that's right boyfriend, "Your decision was all about you, like all of them have ever been about only what YOU care about!!" Gimme a break, Kim. You know more than well enough the nature of father's career. He made the ultimate sacrifice a father could ever possibly make - give up having you in his life (possible forever, for all Jack knew at the time) solely for your own safety? But sure he's an asshole. Don't get me wrong, it's to be expected that she'd take the news harshly, that it'd totally mix her up inside. But to not even wanna touch him? Damn Kim, that's cold.


3) The actions facilitating the terrorist's planned escape from CTU. Okay, so a professional security guard who's working in a government building dedicated to anti-terrorism (yea, so were not talkin' about a Radio Shack here) that has just been placed on immediate high alert lockdown, so he's not gonna be coming around every corner in a stealth position? Yes I realize he's not a federal agent, but I'd have to think someone trained in working in security at that level, and in a time of major imminent crises like that, he's not simply gonna be running around every corner blindly like that. C'mon.


4) And finally I have a problem with the Edgar death. Once again they stretched believability to manufacture the drama. What in the HELL took Edgar so long to get back to the main floor from that back room?? :ugh I mean I realize he's a fatass but geez. In the last scene in which we saw him, not only had he already realized Carrie was dead, but he was already also walking out the door. The time it took him to show back up on the floor, based on previous timeframes they've shown on this show, there's no way he wouldn't have made it back in time. But admittedly, this is probably my most minor of gripes with this episode. I do like where they left off though. With everyone now stuck in one room that's sealed, and obviously the gas isn't completely taken care of, so that I'm guessing they'll all still have to stay inside that room for at least qutie a bit of next week's show too. That idea has a very Hitchcockian feel to it :cool


you SUCK!

[@drian]

That was badass when Jack shot that fucker's wife in the leg. Henderson is one cold hearted fuck for not caring about his own wife.

When Jack shoots people in the leg, it makes me want to hump Jack's leg.

[junior94]

you SUCK!

haha.. oh well, I'm sorry for preferring a little more realism to my television watching. Wait, did I say a little more? I meant hopefully even a spec :p

You guys are as bad with this show as the official Anna Nalick board I found a couple months ago. Each apparently can seem to do absolutely no wrong, every single thing that's done is worship and praised. Hey, again, obviously I enjoy the show enough to watch it, but it can't be argued that it's fundamentally got some major flaws. Admittedly though the biggest thing that's always brought me back I suppose is Kiefer. Not necessarily that I totally love the Bauer character per se, but Kiefer's been one of my very favorite charactor actors since the mid 80's.

[@drian]

haha.. oh well, I'm sorry for preferring a little more realism to my television watching. Wait, did I say a little more? I meant hopefully even a spec :p

You guys are as bad with this show as the official Anna Nalick board I found a couple months ago. Each apparently can seem to do absolutely no wrong, every single thing that's done is worship and praised. Hey, again, obviously I enjoy the show enough to watch it, but it can't be argued that it's fundamentally got some major flaws. Admittedly though the biggest thing that's always brought me back I suppose is Kiefer. Not necessarily that I totally love the Bauer character per se, but Kiefer's been one of my very favorite charactor actors since the mid 80's.

No man it's cool, I was kidding. I wonder what happened to Matt though. I mean after he got mad at you for the preview spoiler, he hasn't been back.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Honestly, I see a lot of what you are saying junior...but most of what you have been saying is somewhat minor. I mean, the fact that Kim didn't hug Jack? Honestly, yeah, Kim should know that Jack was doing what he had to, as she was herself in CTU before, however, I think her initial reaction is pretty realistic, and I think they showed that she was giving in a bit more toward the end of the episode as Chloe told her about Michelle dying, etc. Also, I'm quite glad that Kim's character is back, as despite some of the dodgy situations they've put her in, she is one of the better actors on the show I think. After recently watching a number of S1 and 2 episodes, she has a pretty diverse character and is good at portraying the right emotions.

And Edgar, yeah, the time he took to get back was a bit much, but he's a fat man, so there ya go...and I'm somewhat glad they killed him off. Not much a fan of his or Chloe's character. Although the end of the episode was pretty intense, the silent clock a nice touch as someone else said.

The big thing I agree with you on is President Logan's character. He's too much of a douchebag, really. He's just too hatable, and yeah, he's really wishy-washy. I mean, they tried to make him seem to have a tough decision on the motorcade, which was good, but the fact that he was so easily swayed by the VP was stupid. Palmer was just a much better character...much more diverse and relatable.

However, I do have to say that last night's double episode and the episode from the week before signal a large improvement in where this season is going, in my opinion. It sort of stalled a bit for a few weeks, but I think last night's show was pretty intense, Jack shooting Mrs. Henderson was very sudden...I never really thought he would shoot her so quickly, and it immediately got your attention. Very nice. And the whole situation at CTU is very creepy and it should be very interesting to see how it plays out. I didn't watch the previews last night, but I predict that they are going to have to break out because of a lack of oxygen or something....possibly a seal in the door breaking? Don't know, but that's my prediction.

[Tiduwho]

SPOILER BITCH!!!!!! DON'T DO THAT SHIT!


For the record, what I said was complete conjecture on my part, nothing in the trailer led you to believe that.

[ProudestAnt]

For the record, what I said was complete conjecture on my part, nothing in the trailer led you to believe that. But obviously the spoiler made you believe someone had to "sacrifice" something. Which one wouldn't know if one didn't watch the preview. So now I'm thinking about that and will be all week until the show. So just keep your mouth shut about the previews or put them in spoilers...

[Tiduwho]

But obviously the spoiler made you believe someone had to "sacrifice" something. Which one wouldn't know if one didn't watch the preview. So now I'm thinking about that and will be all week until the show. So just keep your mouth shut about the previews or put them in spoilers...

Well, like I said:

I am sorry, and stupid for that. But on this board for some reason you are not allowed to edit your post after 5 minutes have past (what's the reason for that?).

Once again, stupid on my part for not thinking of that possibility. But to be honest, no. That thought never entered my head. The one time I missed the trailer I beat myself up about it for a day. Still, stupid of me not to think of that.

[ProudestAnt]

Well, like I said: Yea, I got that, it just pissed me off last night, then I had forgotten about it and just read it again, so it pissed me off all over again. It's cool...

[clayj41]

Anyone who didn't watch last night's episode and doesn't want to know what happened, don't read USA Today.

[neumdogg]

haha.. oh well, I'm sorry for preferring a little more realism to my television watching. Wait, did I say a little more? I meant hopefully even a spec :p

What you, and many others seem not to understand is that you are watching a television show which the impossible has happened through the duration of 24 hours for the 5th time! Realism MUST be suspended.

Frankly, I'm amazed that this show has gone passed season 2. It is remarkable to me how a group of writers can continuously write the most entertaining show on TV for the past 5 years on the exact same thing and it's still damn entertaining.

Honestly, the only aspect of this season that has gone beyond suspending disbelief is the President. Besides him, I don't need incredible realism. I don't need to know exactly how long it took for the terrorists to come up with this implausable plan. I don't need to know why Edgar took so long to go unstairs. I don't need to know why no one eats or uses a bathroom. I don't need to know any of these things.

All I need to know is that every Monday night from 9-10, I will be entertained. Until that stops happening, I will watch every episode religiously.

[mr.MikeD]

bingo. it's a television show. i get bombarded by realism 23 hours out of my day, i watch it to be entertained. if i wanted realism for the 24th hour, i'd watch a documentary or go back to work.

[junior94]

Honestly, I see a lot of what you are saying junior...but most of what you have been saying is somewhat minor. I mean, the fact that Kim didn't hug Jack? Honestly, yeah, Kim should know that Jack was doing what he had to, as she was herself in CTU before, however, I think her initial reaction is pretty realistic, and I think they showed that she was giving in a bit more toward the end of the episode as Chloe told her about Michelle dying, etc.

Ahh well see, and maybe this is more just the writer/filmmaker in me talking, but the beauty's in the details. In good, quality storytelling/filmmaking, every word of dialogue, every action, every shot, they should all have meaning. And it's in the details where you could really slowly but surely help build up the realism of the show, and it's things that honestly I don't think would take forever to devise. It would just show me that they're realling thinking of the story as a whole, to work on getting all the nooks and crannies right.

Although the end of the episode was pretty intense, the silent clock a nice touch as someone else said.

Oh that reminds me, I think someone mentioned earlier about how come friggin Edgar gets a silent clock and Palmer didn't. Well, for one thing it wasn't necessarily just about Edgar. Obviously a horrible thing just occured to CTU as a whole in that moment, easily the worst disaster since the bombing a couple seasons ago, and as we could see several people died. But also, there was more of a naturality to the silent clock because that all happened right at the end of the show -- so you ease directly into the clock. Whereas with Palmer, he was killed in the first 10 minutes. By the time the end of the show rolls around, you get a silent clock and the audience would practically have forgotten, wondering why there's no sounds. I hope that makes sense.

And the whole situation at CTU is very creepy and it should be very interesting to see how it plays out.

Well, all I got to say right now about the season as a whole is that the Chinese better damn well show up at some point as a major factor. They were quite clear in the offseason that this season 5 would be informed upon by the end of the previous one (4), moreso than the changeover between any other 2 straight seasons in the series' history. That better not simply meaning it starting off revealing Jack as still being alive. Obviously the Chinese situation was the mitigating factor in that happening, they had a major beef with Jack and that can't have just gone away.


But obviously the spoiler made you believe someone had to "sacrifice" something. Which one wouldn't know if one didn't watch the preview. So now I'm thinking about that and will be all week until the show. So just keep your mouth shut about the previews or put them in spoilers...

Oh sweet jesus, you gotta be kidding me. Someone has to "sacrifice something". This is 24 for petesake, I think that pretty much happens every episode in one way or another. You can't tell me that ruined something for you. Plus if I recall correctly, in his original post from the way he was talking he was guessing that Jack would be the one to sacrifice, intimating by his words that he'd have to forfeit his life. Now I don't know if he was joking, but he should've been. Obviously Jack won't be dying by ANY means in the next episode, so it pretty much made it moot. And I'm sorry, but if simply the news that someone has to sacrifice something next week in the show "really pissed you off", whoa dude... you need to seriously reevaluate some things in your life. :ugh Go now and proceed to flame me for that as I've no doubt you will, but that's just messed up, and I guarantee you that others in this thread would think the same exact thing, whether they want to openly say it or not. You're obviously taking this show way too seriously.


Honestly, the only aspect of this season that has gone beyond suspending disbelief is the President. Besides him, I don't need incredible realism. I don't need to know exactly how long it took for the terrorists to come up with this implausable plan. I don't need to know why Edgar took so long to go unstairs. I don't need to know why no one eats or uses a bathroom. I don't need to know any of these things.

And believe me, I don't need "incredible" realism either, in fact far from it. But there is a mammoth gap between where they are and where they rather simply could be, while they at that same time don't need to worry about fact checking every tiny procedure and protocol with real government agencies. I'm perfectly aware the #1 priority of the show is to be entertaining above all else, but the more a story rings true, I believe the more entertaining it can be. With not a terrrible amount of thought I think they can be quite a bit more realistic about several aspects, and it would be the better show for it.


pheww... alright, there's smoke rising from my friggin keyboard now :lol

[joepsu0985]

Wow that was a post and a half...But the silent clock was a great way to end the show with all that shit going down in the last 5 minutes.

Ill do this next part in spoiler tags so no one bitches.

I can see next week being a filler, well they do have to escape from the room, but other than that they might find out were the nerve gas is at the end of the show, maybe. Also, IMDB must be mistaken for listing who it is listing to come back unless they use it as a flash back. Nothing was said about Palmer contacting the Logan's wife or his bio. I also dont think Lynn will make the big sacrifice, becasue he is new on this season and it wont be tony either. I bet the sacrafice isnt what they make it out to be either. Man the suspense is killing me.

[junior94]

But the silent clock was a great way to end the show with all that shit going down in the last 5 minutes.

Oh I completely agree, sorry if I implied differently in my post. In fact I was sitting there wondering if they were gonna do it, it seemed as best a time as any ever, then bam, I cracked a little smile when it came out with a sound :cool Very appropriate.

[joeyfine]

pooor edgar... poor poor edgar

[WolfmanDMB]

can someone make me an edgar avatar? perhaps from this attacgment unless someone else has a better pic?

[Bron Yr Aur]

Ahh well see, and maybe this is more just the writer/filmmaker in me talking, but the beauty's in the details. In good, quality storytelling/filmmaking, every word of dialogue, every action, every shot, they should all have meaning. And it's in the details where you could really slowly but surely help build up the realism of the show, and it's things that honestly I don't think would take forever to devise. It would just show me that they're realling thinking of the story as a whole, to work on getting all the nooks and crannies right.

Yeah, I am really involved in the small details in the show, as well, and that's why I think seasons one and two were so good; all the little things were really good, lots of little "moments" that just made ya smile at the way they were put together. Love in season one when Jack's wife (still don't know how she died - haven't seen much of seasons 2, 3, or 4 ) finds out that the guy in the car is not Janet's father...oh man, the way her eyes slowly get bigger, total fear...great job of acting that out. Compare that to Chloe's reaction to Edgar. There really is no comparison, they should've offed her instead of Edgar, honestly. And yeah, the thing about Edgar and the time is a bit annoying, since the show is all real-time and whatnot, that's a pretty important thing, and it's a bit of a stretch, however I think it's more important to have the image of Edgar dying as the last image of the episode than it is to have the timing perfect.

However, I still think that Kim's reaction to her father was perfectly natural and honest, myself.

I'm also really curious to see what, if anything, will happen between Martha and Pierce. At first, I thought it was very awkward, but now I'm wondering if Martha is trying to get out from her relationship with her husband in order to expose what is going on...

[GSUdawg521]

:violent So I'm already watching season 5 while still trying to catch up, starting at season 1 and now nearly done with 3. But I go to watch Monday night's episode and right away they talk about that "important stuff" and I finally decide I have to just go back and stay where I am on season 3, watch 4, then start watching 5 again. Maybe I can do it in only 2 or 3 weeks so I can get on the tv schedule :)

edit: Oh, and "Jack" changed his picture again already. This one may be funnier

[Bron Yr Aur]

I wish I could find some of the previous seasons of 24 to rent...I might have to travel 10 miles to the next town to Blockbuster...better than laying down 170 bucks for all 4 seasons, but sure is a hassle...

Damnit, I'm so addicted to this show.

[GSUdawg521]

I wish I could find some of the previous seasons of 24 to rent...I might have to travel 10 miles to the next town to Blockbuster...better than laying down 170 bucks for all 4 seasons, but sure is a hassle...

Damnit, I'm so addicted to this show.

Netflix :thumbsup or something like it

[@drian]

Netflix :thumbsup or something like it

naw man just d/l it, haha jk!

[Bartndrpleez]

I think it WILL be Lynn, because he is the whole reason we are where we are right now. If he would have told someone what happened to him as soon as he came back to CTU, they probably would have had a lead on the guy that ended up using his keycard! Lynn knows this in his mind and feels totally responsible. It's GOTTA be Lynn, because I don't want to lose any good characters!!

And oh yeah, who thinks Curtis deserves his own spin-off? Show of hands...that man is a BADASSMOTHERFUCKER!

[joepsu0985]

:violent So I'm already watching season 5 while still trying to catch up, starting at season 1 and now nearly done with 3. But I go to watch Monday night's episode and right away they talk about that "important stuff" and I finally decide I have to just go back and stay where I am on season 3, watch 4, then start watching 5 again. Maybe I can do it in only 2 or 3 weeks so I can get on the tv schedule :)

edit: Oh, and "Jack" changed his picture again already. This one may be funnier

I had to use the pic for my avatar...Let me know if you mind. Ill gladly change it.

[greg87lax]

I think it WILL be Lynn, because he is the whole reason we are where we are right now. If he would have told someone what happened to him as soon as he came back to CTU, they probably would have had a lead on the guy that ended up using his keycard! Lynn knows this in his mind and feels totally responsible. It's GOTTA be Lynn, because I don't want to lose any good characters!!

And oh yeah, who thinks Curtis deserves his own spin-off? Show of hands...that man is a BADASSMOTHERFUCKER!
::raises hand::

[greg87lax]

i finally watched monday nights 2 episodes


I can't believe edgar died

I also think that something is going to happen with Kim's boyfriend...he seems pretty old and goatees usually mean evil

[joepsu0985]

This sucks...I hate waiting 7 days for the next hour. We wait 167 hours for 1 hour of 24...after that ending this week, I will be crazy come monday. I mean Edgar died and then the whole silent clock thing.

[whoknew13]

The ending this week was amazing, but do you guys remember this scene...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FFGYwQfLpUo&search=24

I remember watching that with my girlfriend and both of us tearing up.

[DMB6800]

my thought on who's going next
I've heard Audrey is done. So I have a feeling it's going to be her.

[dobyblue]

Oh that reminds me, I think someone mentioned earlier about how come friggin Edgar gets a silent clock and Palmer didn't. Well, for one thing it wasn't necessarily just about Edgar. Obviously a horrible thing just occured to CTU as a whole in that moment, easily the worst disaster since the bombing a couple seasons ago, and as we could see several people died. But also, there was more of a naturality to the silent clock because that all happened right at the end of the show -- so you ease directly into the clock. Whereas with Palmer, he was killed in the first 10 minutes. By the time the end of the show rolls around, you get a silent clock and the audience would practically have forgotten, wondering why there's no sounds. I hope that makes sense.
It doesn't, because silent clocks are not only used at the end of an episode to have an impact.
S2.14 [Day 2 9:00PM - 10:00PM] - Mason hands over the keys to CTU to Tony and heads off to an impending death - SILENT CLOCK!

9:34 P.M.
Mason approaches Tony about taking over command because he doesn’t feel well enough to continue. He asks Tony to say goodbye to the staff for him, and hands him access codes for CTU and Division. He has already talked to Chappelle at District. Tony has been named the new Director. Mason wishes Tony luck and leaves quietly.

The silent clock can be used at any time but thankfully it's been used sparingly so far.

[dobyblue]

And oh yeah, who thinks Curtis deserves his own spin-off? Show of hands...that man is a BADASSMOTHERFUCKER!
I wish Behrooz would get his own show, like "Behrooz learns to ski" or something like that.

[greg87lax]

I wish Behrooz would get his own show, like "Behrooz learns to ski" or something like that.
"Behrooz learns to act"
"Behrooz learns that pushing his eyebrows down gives him a headache"

[joepsu0985]

my thought on who's going next
I've heard Audrey is done. So I have a feeling it's going to be her.




:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

[Trippin4136]

"Well, all I got to say right now about the season as a whole is that the Chinese better damn well show up at some point as a major factor. They were quite clear in the offseason that this season 5 would be informed upon by the end of the previous one (4), moreso than the changeover between any other 2 straight seasons in the series' history. That better not simply meaning it starting off revealing Jack as still being alive. Obviously the Chinese situation was the mitigating factor in that happening, they had a major beef with Jack and that can't have just gone away."

I agree...I feel like when he went into the airport and into Henderson's company were major exposing points for Jack and now I am anticipating when the Chinese will find out...This is getting my anxiety going about the season almost more than anything.

[jeff edwards]

Why did they kill off Edgar?
That was some great tv!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
J

[jeff edwards]

"Well, all I got to say right now about the season as a whole is that the Chinese better damn well show up at some point as a major factor. They were quite clear in the offseason that this season 5 would be informed upon by the end of the previous one (4), moreso than the changeover between any other 2 straight seasons in the series' history. That better not simply meaning it starting off revealing Jack as still being alive. Obviously the Chinese situation was the mitigating factor in that happening, they had a major beef with Jack and that can't have just gone away."

I agree...I feel like when he went into the airport and into Henderson's company were major exposing points for Jack and now I am anticipating when the Chinese will find out...This is getting my anxiety going about the season almost more than anything.
They won't find out this season or any season. The Pres already said he has to disappear. It's all happening in one day, so I think alot of us forget that. But you are right, that might be how season 6 will start.
But I think Jack Bauer is going to take a vacation from season 7.
j

[dobyblue]

I'm not sure why the Chinese would show up in this season. 24 hours would be pretty quick for any international intelligence to find out that someone who was supposed to be dead is actually alive.

I'd really like to see Max make an appearance this season. Surely the writers and Cassar must know that many of us who are avid fans are aware of the as of yet undelt with situations.

[junior94]

I'm not sure why the Chinese would show up in this season. 24 hours would be pretty quick for any international intelligence to find out that someone who was supposed to be dead is actually alive.

I'd really like to see Max make an appearance this season. Surely the writers and Cassar must know that many of us who are avid fans are aware of the as of yet undelt with situations.

First of all doby, good call on the silent clock thing. I'd forgotten that it had been used in the past at a commercial break within the show, not just always at the end, so then obviously there was a precedence there to do it with Palmer's death even with being so close to the opening. (I tell ya though, just on a small tangent -- speaking of the first several minutes of ep#1, I still absolutely loved loved loved that one particular shot of Tony holding Michelle on the ground by the car, when the flames suddenly totally engulf them and knock them further away. They obviously showed that in the pre-season previews many times and how many of us kept assuming that was actually Jack in that shot somehow)

Okay then, regarding this post. Well when I brought up the Chinese before, I wasn't necessarily saying that it would happen in the capacity of them returning by result of suddenly finding out Jack was alive. I'm not sure exactly what the circumstances might be, but I've always been leaning in my mind more towards the idea that they're already somehow involved in what's going on so far. That it's not simply about a group of rogue terrorists who want the Russian government and people to be made to suffer for whatever reason (which, maybe that's been covered why so far, but I've forgotten if so). Obviously part of the plan we've seen already was to make Jack have to pay for the killing of Palmer. Maybe someone within the Chinese government during the last 18 months did wind up discovering somehow Jack was still alive.
I would just really prefer it that they've been involved somehow this whole time and that it'll come to the surface eventually. Just because between what the producers themselves said, and also it just makes more logical sense (not to mention I think being a really cool story twist).

And Max -- remind me, was that the businessman-looking guy on the yacht taking the phone call at the end of season 2? (think it was 2, if not then 3)

[greg87lax]

i would also like a reminder as to who max was/is

[dobyblue]

And Max -- remind me, was that the businessman-looking guy on the yacht taking the phone call at the end of season 2? (think it was 2, if not then 3)
Yes, Max places to the phone call to Mandy in S2.24 when he finds out the Cyprus recordings have been revealed as a fake and war will not begin.

[junior94]

Yes, Max places to the phone call to Mandy in S2.24 when he finds out the Cyprus recordings have been revealed as a fake and war will not begin.

Ok right, that's what I thought. Then she goes and slips Palmer the dirty handshake :D
We could really use some naked Mandyness this season. aww hell, we could use 'er every damn episode :p

edit: oooh, and I know the way to do it. Now with Kim Bauer back in the picture, Mandy must eliminate Kim and so kills her by way of Catherine Trammell-esque overly rigorous hottub lesbian sex. :cool :hump

[mr.MikeD]

Yes, Max places to the phone call to Mandy in S2.24 when he finds out the Cyprus recordings have been revealed as a fake and war will not begin.

right, and if i remember, max placed a call from the yacht to someone else entirely telling him that he still had a plan. so there's as a group of rich powerful people out there who wanted a war, kind of like the aid that hung himself this season. I'll be highly dissappointed if there isn't a tie in.

[@drian]

Now with Kim Bauer back in the picture, Mandy must eliminate Kim and so kills her by way of Catherine Trammell-esque overly rigorous hottub lesbian sex. :cool :hump


Two hot Canadians in a tub, I love that game.

[baloneybandit21]

right, and if i remember, max placed a call from the yacht to someone else entirely telling him that he still had a plan. so there's as a group of rich powerful people out there who wanted a war, kind of like the aid that hung himself this season. I'll be highly dissappointed if there isn't a tie in.

actually it explains max is the bad guy in the 24 video game which takes place in between seasons 2 and 3 and max is ultimately caught. after finishing the game, I rewatched the first episode of season 3 and wayne says to president palmer trying to reassure him that the person behind the attempt on his life had been captured

[dobyblue]

right, and if i remember, max placed a call from the yacht to someone else entirely telling him that he still had a plan. so there's as a group of rich powerful people out there who wanted a war, kind of like the aid that hung himself this season. I'll be highly dissappointed if there isn't a tie in.
No the phone call to Mandy was the last phone call he made. He was on one before it during which he learned of the Cyprus recordings being revealed as fakes, that's when he called Mandy.
actually it explains max is the bad guy in the 24 video game which takes place in between seasons 2 and 3 and max is ultimately caught. after finishing the game, I rewatched the first episode of season 3 and wayne says to president palmer trying to reassure him that the person behind the attempt on his life had been captured
Damn it!!!!!!!!!

Oh well that explains that I guess. What a shame they didn't make more of an issue out of it - I don't think too many of us spotted that.

[mr.MikeD]

No the phone call to Mandy was the last phone call he made. He was on one before it during which he learned of the Cyprus recordings being revealed as fakes, that's when he called Mandy.

Damn it!!!!!!!!!

Oh well that explains that I guess. What a shame they didn't make more of an issue out of it - I don't think too many of us spotted that.

that's the call i meant, i checked the dvd yesterday. the guy he talked to from the boat, who told him that there wasn't going to be a war. this guy was sitting at a restaurant patio. max said something about having one more plan, then called mandy. maybe i just missed who the restaurant guy was, but i don't think he was explained.

and explaining that bit about max in a video game is pretty weak, since a whole season was built around his plan.

[Franchize41]

actually it explains max is the bad guy in the 24 video game which takes place in between seasons 2 and 3 and max is ultimately caught. after finishing the game, I rewatched the first episode of season 3 and wayne says to president palmer trying to reassure him that the person behind the attempt on his life had been captured

well no need to finish the game I guess :(

[mr.MikeD]

too bad, that means that story line is effectively done with, except maybe for mandy, who is uber-hot, and should come back.

[bdfresh62]

actually it explains max is the bad guy in the 24 video game which takes place in between seasons 2 and 3 and max is ultimately caught. after finishing the game, I rewatched the first episode of season 3 and wayne says to president palmer trying to reassure him that the person behind the attempt on his life had been captured

That needed to go in spoilers my man. I just bought the game, getting ready to go play it now.

[Bron Yr Aur]

In related news, I believe in certain areas (if not all areas) WGN has a Season one marathon today and tomorrow...the first 12 today, the next 12 tomorrow, and I'm taping and TiVo-ing all 9-24 that I haven't seen yet...'tis going to be great when I get a chance to watch them all...

[junior94]

That needed to go in spoilers my man. I just bought the game, getting ready to go play it now.

Ya know what, for as much bullshit as I've taken for laying out so called spoilers that I still say 100% was crap and I did nothing wrong, I gotta admit I agree on this one, that best should've gone in under tags giving away the ending to the video game like that. I'm not even a gamer, and I might not've thought so otherwise if not for how goddamned expensive those things can be. I'm sure it'll still be pretty fun to play if you're into that sorta thing, but the real heart of the mystery is gone now.

[GSUdawg521]

Not really deserving of spoiler tags because it's from season 3, but if you haven't watched it yet (though I don't know why you'd be here), you've been warned:

Had to watch Jack kill Ryan Chappelle last night in my continuing quest to catch up. Yeah Ryan was a jerk sometimes, but that whole one episode was really tense and I wasn't really worried for him til after Jack said "God forgive me" and pulled the trigger, and the silent clock. It gave me a chill and I kinda had this "aww man :shrug" kinda feeling...

Back to the dvd!!!

[junior94]

Not really deserving of spoiler tags because it's from season 3, but if you haven't watched it yet (though I don't know why you'd be here), you've been warned:

Had to watch Jack kill Ryan Chappelle last night in my continuing quest to catch up. Yeah Ryan was a jerk sometimes, but that whole one episode was really tense and I wasn't really worried for him til after Jack said "God forgive me" and pulled the trigger, and the silent clock. It gave me a chill and I kinda had this "aww man :shrug" kinda feeling...

Back to the dvd!!!

Well and that's on perfect example of an element that still bugs me about this show. Major pieces of action go down to create drama, and then those moments are completely forgotten about without it after being alluded to why it happened. They made so much out of Chappelle getting killed -- but never said why in the hell the terrorist wanted specifically THAT to happen. It made it so random. Now, I recall at the time there were some rumors on the net that Chappelle was actually the guy's (don't recall that terrorist leader's name) brother, but if that was true it was never revealed. NO connection was revealed, they never talked about why he wanted him dead so badly. That's just bushleague.

Another smaller example of what I'm talking about took place during season 2, I think it was. When Jack had Nina out in some field with a bunch of SWAT guys around, they had just recaptured her, and Jack leans in and whispers something in her ear, that moment was shot very conspicuously. I thought FOR SURE that it would be revealed by the end of the season why he did that/what he said to her, but of course it never was.

[asmjm39]

uhh it wasnt random. Chapelle was a forensic accounting specialist or something like that, and spoiling the game was bs too

[bdfresh62]

Wow I just forgot how intense the final episode of Season 1 is. The standoff between Jack and Nina, then Jack finding Terri dead and holding her as the silent clock goes out. WGN just had a marathon and I caight the end of it.

[GSUdawg521]

Wow I just forgot how intense the final episode of Season 1 is. The standoff between Jack and Nina, then Jack finding Terri dead and holding her as the silent clock goes out. WGN just had a marathon and I caight the end of it.

:thumbsup I watched Season 1 about a month ago and Season 2 since then. Right now as we speak (2:30am) I'm on the last episode and a half of Season 3!!!

[GSUdawg521]

^^ Me again, just finished season 3 (3:45am now). Whew! My heart was racing at some points. 6 episodes in a row I watched, so, from about midnight til now I've been here.

Now maybe I can do season 4 by the end of the week :p

[JMcCartyFBI]

Well and that's on perfect example of an element that still bugs me about this show. Major pieces of action go down to create drama, and then those moments are completely forgotten about without it after being alluded to why it happened. They made so much out of Chappelle getting killed -- but never said why in the hell the terrorist wanted specifically THAT to happen. It made it so random. Now, I recall at the time there were some rumors on the net that Chappelle was actually the guy's (don't recall that terrorist leader's name) brother, but if that was true it was never revealed. NO connection was revealed, they never talked about why he wanted him dead so badly. That's just bushleague.


If I recall correctly, Chappelle was actually making himself useful at CTU by trying to trace Saunders' bank transactions so that CTU could locate him. I believe that this was Chappelle's area of expertise before he rose in the ranks at Division. One of Saunders' associates told him that Chappelle was trying to trace them through the bank accounts. So, Saunders decided to remove that threat in (conveniently) the most dramatic way possible. But it kind of made sense, because not only would he get rid of Chappelle, but he would also hurt Jack by making him be the one to do it.

[bdb23]

Here. We. Go.

[bdb23]

30 fucking minutes til the chemical people can get there??? Convenient.

[bdb23]

Screw this V.P.

[Tiduwho]

Looks like some lesbian is taking over CTU. Yeah, I don't trust the VP at all. But at least he's TRYING to do something. Logan is a tool.

[bdb23]

Fuck Dr. Barry.

[Lcsulla]

This President is a moron.

Sucks to be Deadgar!

[bdb23]

:lorraine for Edgar.

[bdb23]

I would have duct taped my mouth and nose.

[Tiduwho]

Yay! Samwise gon die!


I feel real bad for the security guard though. He didn't do anything to deserve to be in that position.

[bdb23]

Serves you right Rudy.

[UNC41]

What goes around comes around Rudy.

[bdb23]

Damn.

[bdb23]

What a pussy.

[bdb23]

Who's this broad???

[bdb23]

Screw you Homeland Security.

[bdb23]

HOLY SHIT!!!! :lorraine

[bdb23]

Tony doesn't get a silent clock????

[Mel4AU]

WHAAAAAAAAAT????? :lorraine :lorraine

[UNC41]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[JimiThang1]

He be aight...he's Tony.

[bdb23]

I am seriously pissed right now.

[Tiduwho]

I knew something was screwy with Henderson. Was the black shirt guy in on it with Henderson or what?

[bdb23]

Bullshit. Just bullshit. They don't need to do this to prove reality on the show. Over the top drama.

[AlpineValley804]

This season isn't only killing its major players, it's killing me too!

[tdowe99]

So is he really dead?

[AlpineValley804]

Bullshit. Just bullshit. They don't need to do this to prove reality on the show. Over the top drama.

I'm somewhat inclined to agree with you.

[AlpineValley804]

So is he really dead?

No silent clock, so I'm not sure. But perhaps there was no silent clock just because they didn't want to do it two weeks in a row.

[bdfresh62]

I am seriously pissed right now.

Seriously. If Tony goes I will be upset. He's my second favorite behind Jack. While we are at it, Curtis better not go either. He's the man.

[bdb23]

Yeah, I think he's dead for sure. Jack was too emotional for Tony to just be injured.

[bdb23]

Seriously. If Tony goes I will be upset. He's my second favorite behind Jack. While we are at it, Curtis better not go either. He's the man.
:thumbsup I understand the "nobody is safe" mentality of the writers, but c'mon.

[taphntm]

No silent clock, so I'm not sure. But perhaps there was no silent clock just because they didn't want to do it two weeks in a row.
tony's death wasn't as dramatic as edgar :(
and... did anyone else who watched the preview feel like they gave away more than usual? I feel like I've already seen next week :p

[taphntm]

lynn dying was horrible :lorraine

[greg87lax]

well hot damn....im digging our new female villain

i don't actually think tony is dead

^ my thoughts on tonight

[greg87lax]

did anyone else who watched the preview feel like they gave away more than usual? I feel like I've already seen next week :p
yeah really........what the hell is fox thinking

[JimiThang1]

So is he really dead?
No silent clock = not dead. Simple as that...case closed. If there is anyone more deserving of the silent clock it's Tony Fucking Almeida.

[taphntm]

but I was suspicious... it doesn't look like that guy ever holds curtis hostage... I think they just showed a picture of him to make it look like he was being held hostage... but I kind of missed who that guy was with the terrorist at the end of the preview

[taphntm]

he's dead!!! dead dead dead :p

[twk13]

ho-lee crap-nuts

[bdfresh62]

Tony is gone. I hope I'm wrong. Just because there is no silent clock doesn't mean anything. Michelle didn't get one. Neither did Palmer.

[twk13]

do you think lynn's death totally made up for his bitchiness previously?


oh, and btw, I was totally waiting for Jack to go ape shit on Barry. Every single time Barry said something to Jack, it was like BITCH YOU JUST ENTERED A WORLD OF PAIN

[taphntm]

that's cuz they died at inconvenient times hahaha... maybe if palmer had waited to stand next to the window around a time the hour changed then he would have gotten a nice silent clock.

[twk13]

think about it this way, if tony was gonna give henderson a lethal dose, and then he got injected with it, it would be pretty unrealistic for tony not to die

[AlpineValley804]

Tony is gone. I hope I'm wrong. Just because there is no silent clock doesn't mean anything. Michelle didn't get one. Neither did Palmer.

Michelle was nowhere near as much of a main character as was Tony. No surprise on her not getting a silent clock. Palmer's reasoning on the other hand...silent clocks are usually at the end of an episode. I still have a tiny bit of hope.

[junior94]

HA HA! Tony died, GOOD - you deserved it you stupid sonofabitch. I thought it was incredibly unrealistic that Tony was seriously gonna shoot the guy when everything was at stake that it was, but if he went ahead that far with the attempt, then the idiot deserved what he got.

[greg87lax]

think about it this way, if tony was gonna give henderson a lethal dose, and then he got injected with it, it would be pretty unrealistic for tony not to die
but henderson was already drugged up

a shot of adrenaline and tony will be fine

[bdfresh62]

I think when the nuke exploded during season 2, there was a silent clock, but I think that happened in the middle of the episode though.

I also think its kind of funny how last week we were all so upset with the death of Edgar and now this week we are all pissed that Tony died. This show takes you through a world of emotions.

[twk13]

but henderson was already drugged up

a shot of adrenaline and tony will be finethat is true

[AlpineValley804]

Nuke was at the end. I'm 99% percent sure of it.

[greg87lax]

i bet barry is going to be involved somehow

A goatee is the universal sign of sneakiness, deception, and henceforth/ergo terror

[Tiduwho]

I'm just really wondering how in the hell Henderson was fine all that time.

[bdb23]

I just don't see Jack crying like a baby if Tony wasn't dead. Sure, I'm hoping I'm wrong, but that was way too much emotion for Bauer.

[greg87lax]

yeah but...
he also just saw edgar die, watched lynn and the security guy die, and kim just completely rejected him (and he looked pretty hurt during that convo with her)

[bdfresh62]

i bet barry is going to be involved somehow

A goatee is the universal sign of sneakiness, deception, and henceforth/ergo terror

:lol

That dude deserves to die for all the back talking he did to Jack tonight. Chloe was funny when she said "You sure do like to talk about breathing" :lol

[greg87lax]

:lol

That dude deserves to die for all the back talking he did to Jack tonight. Chloe was funny when she said "You sure do like to talk about breathing" :lol
yeah, i mean its pretty obvious that they aren't going to bring kim back for 2 episodes just to have her leave with no problem....i mean c'mon kim is the QUEEN of bad decisions, of course her life will be in danger within the next hour

[bdb23]

yeah but...
he also just saw edgar die, watched lynn and the security guy die, and kim just completely rejected him (and he looked pretty hurt during that convo with her)

Maybe. I'm hoping he isn't, but it would just be too convenient. Also, why are those details spoiler worthy??

[greg87lax]

hah oh yeah, one question for all of you...
did any of you try to hold your breath as long as jack? like 10 of us in the dorm tried, but none succeeded

[AlpineValley804]

yeah but...
he also just saw edgar die, watched lynn and the security guy die, and kim just completely rejected him (and he looked pretty hurt during that convo with her)


:thumbsup on the spoiler text. I'm definitely partial to the idea that it was a breaking point for Jack. Take for example the closing minutes of Season 3 when everything is over and Jack tears up in his car.

[AlpineValley804]

hah oh yeah, one question for all of you...
did any of you try to hold your breath as long as jack? like 10 of us in the dorm tried, but none succeeded

There's no way I could do that. I don't have a good respiratory system and I don't even have asthma.

[taphntm]

I'm just really wondering how in the hell Henderson was fine all that time.
I was confused as to how the doctor thought he was in a coma... I guess faking a coma is really easy haha....

I didn't really think jack was overly-emotional for tony, but too quickly emotional for him.

[greg87lax]

Maybe. I'm hoping he isn't, but it would just be too convenient. Also, why are those details spoiler worthy??
because off this
http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showpost.php?p=3893304&postcount=6875
which i keep forgetting then remembering...and i didn't watch last weeks 2 episodes when they aired on tv and i came on here and you guys didn't use spoilers, so it was spoiled for me

[taphntm]

seriously... kim is just annoying... the president makes stupid decisions... but somehow I don't find him even close to as annoying as kim... I think a less annoying character for her would be better

[bdb23]

What is happening during that week's show isn't a spoiler. Previews to next week and shit from other boards are spoilers.

[greg87lax]

seriously... kim is just annoying... the president makes stupid decisions... but somehow I don't find him even close to as annoying as kim... I think a less annoying character for her would be better
i forget what season (maybe 2, it was the one with the nuke) when she was babysitting for that couple....that defied annoying

sherri dying was my 24 highpoint, i HATED her

[BustedJeff]

seriously... kim is just annoying... the president makes stupid decisions... but somehow I don't find him even close to as annoying as kim... I think a less annoying character for her would be better

I find her clothes to be incredibly annoying. They should just write them out of the script.

[greg87lax]

What is happening during that week's show isn't a spoiler. Previews to next week and shit from other boards are spoilers.
not positive, but im pretty sure he was talking about previous shows and seasons also.....some people wait for the dvds to come out and i know quite a few people who are watching the first 4 seasons and this season at the same time.....im just trying to watch out for my am.org membership
:thumbsup

[Bartndrpleez]

I think it WILL be Lynn, because he is the whole reason we are where we are right now. If he would have told someone what happened to him as soon as he came back to CTU, they probably would have had a lead on the guy that ended up using his keycard! Lynn knows this in his mind and feels totally responsible. It's GOTTA be Lynn, because I don't want to lose any good characters!!

And oh yeah, who thinks Curtis deserves his own spin-off? Show of hands...that man is a BADASSMOTHERFUCKER!

Don't mean to toot my own horn, but this is one thing I predicted that actually came true :lol

As for tonight's episode, I was hoping and PRAYING they wouldn't off Tony, but it seems to be what has happened. I'm not happy. I did try to hold my breath with Jack, I'm dead due to centox nerve gas. Still felt kind of sad when Lynn bit the bullet. Oh well, we shan't forget you Rudy. That is all.

[shrimpco2]

Tony didn't get the silent clock because for this season, he has done nothing but be a vegetable. Granted, had he died last season it would have meant more. They are just getting our hopes up having him come back this season, thinking he will do something cool, and then he just dies. Same with Kim. They bring her back for a few shows as a tease, and then she leaves.

Another thing. I feel like some larger plot twist has to be forthcoming. I mean, we are still believing that the terrorists had initially intended this stuff for use in Russia, but now because they can't get out of the country, they use it on the US. Sounds desparate and weak to me. There has to be something more than this. Something that Henderson knew. Speaking of which, where did he go? He wasn't at the end of the show, or in the previews.

[taphntm]

yea, how many hours are left and it looks like they're already going to try and release all the nerve gas in one place? (I don't remember if he said to release "all of it" in the preview or not) so anyway... I would guess based on that that there must be something bigger about to happen...

[greg87lax]

Tony didn't get the silent clock because for this season, he has done nothing but be a vegetable. Granted, had he died last season it would have meant more. They are just getting our hopes up having him come back this season, thinking he will do something cool, and then he just dies. Same with Kim. They bring her back for a few shows as a tease, and then she leaves.

Another thing. I feel like some larger plot twist has to be forthcoming. I mean, we are still believing that the terrorists had initially intended this stuff for use in Russia, but now because they can't get out of the country, they use it on the US. Sounds desparate and weak to me. There has to be something more than this. Something that Henderson knew. Speaking of which, where did he go? He wasn't at the end of the show, or in the previews.
Kim isn't gone yet and Henderson is somewhere in CTU with Tony's gun
I'm with ya on the larger plot :thumbsup

[youneverno41]

great episode

[Bartndrpleez]

This probably doesn't need spoiler tags, but so as not to piss of some people I'll use 'em. Can anyone conjure up a location of where they want to release the rest of the nerve gas? They said its somewhere even MORE secure than CTU, which is like saying your neighborhood 7/11 the way that asshole just waltzed in there with Lynn's ID. And somewhere that could kill 200,000+ people...my guess is either some giant federal building in downtown LA or maybe the convention center? Not really sure. What's more secure than CTU which could see 200,000 people file in and out of it?

And oh yeah, THEY BETTER NOT FUCK WITH CURTIS NEXT WEEK!!!

[greg87lax]

This probably doesn't need spoiler tags, but so as not to piss of some people I'll use 'em. Can anyone conjure up a location of where they want to release the rest of the nerve gas? They said its somewhere even MORE secure than CTU, which is like saying your neighborhood 7/11 the way that asshole just waltzed in there with Lynn's ID. And somewhere that could kill 200,000+ people...my guess is either some giant federal building in downtown LA or maybe the convention center? Not really sure. What's more secure than CTU which could see 200,000 people file in and out of it?

And oh yeah, THEY BETTER NOT FUCK WITH CURTIS NEXT WEEK!!!
ive been rackin my brain, but i can't come up with any feasible location....even some crazy-huge event like bonnaroo only has less than half the number of people

[@drian]

Why the hell didn't Tony shoot robocop? I mean shoot him with a gun, wouldn't that be a better way to kill someone that caused your wifes death. I thought he was going to try to wake him up with whatever was in the syringe. Then once he was awake, he would shoot him in the head. It seems pretty dumb to get revenge on someone by killing them with a needle in there sleep.

[twk13]

yea, robocop is such a faker. btw, isn't a stupid idea for the terrorists if they release all the gas at once. I mean, it's not gonna increase the radius of a possible attack, it's just gonna make one area more heavily filled with gas. Wouldn't it then be wiser for the terrorists to save the gas to increase deaths and continue their threat, it seems like a waste of Centox (?).

[greg87lax]

yea, robocop is such a faker. btw, isn't a stupid idea for the terrorists if they release all the gas at once. I mean, it's not gonna increase the radius of a possible attack, it's just gonna make one area more heavily filled with gas. Wouldn't it then be wiser for the terrorists to save the gas to increase deaths and continue their threat, it seems like a waste of Centox (?).
unless they place the canisters at difference places in the same building, not all in one place

[junior94]

Ok this is a little detail I noticed during next week's previews, and since many of you are so damn inexplicably anal about that, I'll play along with your little game and spoiler-tag it. This is just something casting related that I invite any peeps who are also "LOST" fans to read it, see if you agree with me on a tiny thing I thought I noticed (it's not really a spoiler, cause if it's who I think it is, it's a brand new person, someone who's never been on the show before and preview didn't indicate at all who he might be). Anyway, here goes...

Did anyone notice that one guy near the very end of the preview with the longish hair -- I think he was Desmond from LOST! I can't remember what he yelled, I'm guessing he plays a baddie, it looked like he may've had a gun on someone, but damned if it didn't look like him in that quick flash.

[twk13]

unless they place the canisters at difference places in the same building, not all in one placebut still, thats only a difference of a few hundred feet at most

[asmjm39]

:lorraine

:lorraine

:lorraine

[taphntm]

if they did it at like... a stadium or something they could hit a lot of people and actually potentially more than in a bunch of little places because it is very crowded in those and also they could possibly have tons of people dying on live television including famous people........ wow, that would be awful... also... it might be a lot easier to hit one target rather than a bunch of little ones because that would take much less planning and everything would be in one place, etc etc... it would be a lot easier for the terrorists

[tdowe99]

It sucks that 2 seconds of the door being open killed Hobbit and the Redshirt. If I were them, I'd try to run for a door. I'm not sure how big the CTU building is, but it's better than dying.

[Mel4AU]

My question is why didn't the doctor that was in the other room ever come out? Tony didn't kill him, did he? He just passed out I thought.

[road_designer]

WTF!!! How the HELL are the gas masks and anthropene NOT in the safe rooms?!?!?! That was a definate mistake by the writers. There is no way CTU would be that stupid with their placement of masks.

[road_designer]

It sucks that 2 seconds of the door being open killed Hobbit and the Redshirt. If I were them, I'd try to run for a door. I'm not sure how big the CTU building is, but it's better than dying.
No doubt the exterior doors are locked/sealed because why would they want the cyntox to escape the building.

[bdb23]

WTF!!! How the HELL are the gas masks and anthropene NOT in the safe rooms?!?!?! That was a definate mistake by the writers. There is no way CTU would be that stupid with their placement of masks.
:thumbsup

[tdowe99]

The cyntox is escaping the building right now, and took about 15 minutes to do so. I guess in the atmosphere the limited amount wouldn't do any damage. I still wouldn't want to be hanging around near the building. ;)

Yes! Every desk should have a gas mask, or at least spread throughout the building and not just in the armory.

[AlpineValley804]

WTF!!! How the HELL are the gas masks and anthropene NOT in the safe rooms?!?!?! That was a definate mistake by the writers. There is no way CTU would be that stupid with their placement of masks.

I thought the exact same thing last night.

[boiii]

for anyone who's questioning if tony really died. he did.


7:59 P.M.
Jack enters the clinic and finds Tony and Burke on the ground. Gasping his last breath of life, Tony tells Jack that he couldn’t do it. Jack clutches Tony’s head. Tony dies, and Jack cries with him still in his arms.


cheers.
ken

[gr8tkingrat]

Why the hell didn't Tony shoot robocop? I mean shoot him with a gun, wouldn't that be a better way to kill someone that caused your wifes death. I thought he was going to try to wake him up with whatever was in the syringe. Then once he was awake, he would shoot him in the head. It seems pretty dumb to get revenge on someone by killing them with a needle in there sleep.

completely agree. pretty unbelievable...weak writing really.

[greg87lax]

WTF!!! How the HELL are the gas masks and anthropene NOT in the safe rooms?!?!?! That was a definate mistake by the writers. There is no way CTU would be that stupid with their placement of masks.
yeah we came to the conclusion that it must have been someone besides jack (someone with imperfections) to have planned that out

[road_designer]

yeah we came to the conclusion that it must have been someone besides jack (someone with imperfections) to have planned that out
um...the writers of the show. There is NO WAY a government facility like CTU would have made that oversight. If so, then the Homeland bitch does need to take over.

[Matt]

Jack is gonna lose it. Kim pulls the heartless bitch card out on him, an