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Bron Yr Aur

03-14-2006, 06:23 PM

Geez. It's on the Official Fox 24 website and some people still don't believe.

They could be trying to trick everyone ;) .....hopefully

But yeah, if Tony is in fact dead, which he likely is, this is quite lame. The only thing that would be worse is if they put in a silent clock two weeks in a row. Get over it. However, all these deaths, I'm thinking they are looking to pack it in. Either this is the last season, or there will be a bit of a hiatus before they do another one or two seasons. Michelle, Edgar, Palmer, and now Edgar. It's getting out of hand. Tony was one of THE best characters, at least let him die in a better/more heroic manner toward the end of the season or something...he didn't even do anything this year, which makes me think he just **might** be saved.

DMBfan41

03-14-2006, 06:38 PM

I think the silent clock was used on Edgar b/c that episode closed the 12th hour and was a huge focal point of change for the season. I think it was more to signify the destruction of CTU more than just Edgar dying.

Seeing Tony die in Jack's arms was some of the most power television I've ever seen. Kiefer Sutherland is the man.

Agreed, the silent clock was more for CTU then Edgar. Very powerful episode. And now, Jack Bauer is the final character to appear in every season

bdb23

03-14-2006, 06:47 PM

They could be trying to trick everyone ;) .....hopefully

But yeah, if Tony is in fact dead, which he likely is, this is quite lame. The only thing that would be worse is if they put in a silent clock two weeks in a row. Get over it. However, all these deaths, I'm thinking they are looking to pack it in. Either this is the last season, or there will be a bit of a hiatus before they do another one or two seasons. Michelle, Edgar, Palmer, and now Edgar. It's getting out of hand. Tony was one of THE best characters, at least let him die in a better/more heroic manner toward the end of the season or something...he didn't even do anything this year, which makes me think he just **might** be saved.
He's dead. He was supposed to die in the first episode...

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/14/arts/television/14kill.html?_r=3&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin (no real spoilers in there)

Bron Yr Aur

03-14-2006, 06:52 PM

Perhaps the reason Tony didn't blow the guy's brains out was because he wanted to make it look like the guy just died in the coma. A gaping hole in his head might send Tony to jail, whereas a shot of something might be harder to trace in an autopsy. Tony assumed that the guy wouldnt' be faking the coma. As we know from Under Seige 2, "assumption is the mother of all fuckups."

Yeah, I initially thought that was a bit stupid of Tony, however, yeah, if he shot him, it'd be pretty obvious what happened. However, there are cameras that would've proven what Tony did, anyway, but he probably was not thinking of that at that point.

And it's pretty lame that Tony didn't even get a chance to exact his revenge, but just got killed himself. But I guess that's just the nature of the show.

Mark

03-14-2006, 07:42 PM

am i the only one who thought the girl was Mandy?

according to the IMDB it was

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000477/

that is a link to her... not the '24' page.

Ben F.

03-14-2006, 08:14 PM

If it was Mandy, she has gained a lot of weight. When I saw her I didn't even come close to thinking 'Mandy'.

jeff edwards

03-14-2006, 08:31 PM

I agree with Ben. I think Tony may be alive.
There is no way he is alive, did you not see the preview for next week. They were putting a sheet over his cold dead body. Tony's gone.
Maybe we will get lucky and they will get rid of chole. I am amazed she is still on there.
:multi j:multi

jeff edwards

03-14-2006, 08:33 PM

Agreed, the silent clock was more for CTU then Edgar. Very powerful episode. And now, Jack Bauer is the final character to appear in every season
Hey don't forget Chloe,
:multi j:multi

Mark

03-14-2006, 09:04 PM

If it was Mandy, she has gained a lot of weight. When I saw her I didn't even come close to thinking 'Mandy'.

put on weight? :freak

i guess i am the only one who thought it was her. *shrug*

dmbgreyst

03-14-2006, 09:06 PM

24 is the best show ever

dmbgreyst

03-14-2006, 09:06 PM

24 is the best show ever

Bron Yr Aur

03-14-2006, 09:47 PM

24 is the best show ever

In other news, 24 is the best show ever

mr.MikeD

03-14-2006, 09:54 PM

put on weight? :freak

i guess i am the only one who thought it was her. *shrug*

mandy didn't have a russian accent though? and i think that chick's name was collete?

mandy is hotter i think.

asmjm39

03-14-2006, 10:06 PM

you friggin crybabies. who cares about the silent clock? Palmer and Michelle didnt get one, and I dont recall you pompous fans getting all up in arms. Damn those writers! I hate them! :rolleyes

bdb23

03-14-2006, 11:01 PM

you friggin crybabies. who cares about the silent clock? Palmer and Michelle didnt get one, and I dont recall you pompous fans getting all up in arms. Damn those writers! I hate them! :rolleyes
Quit being a dick you PST watcher.

asmjm39

03-14-2006, 11:05 PM

Quit being a dick you PST watcher.

yeah yeah yeah

Lets hear it. Rudy didnt get a silent clock, damn those writers and their injustice!

bdb23

03-14-2006, 11:07 PM

yeah yeah yeah

Lets hear it. Rudy didnt get a silent clock, damn those writers and their injustice!
Neither did Imhotep.

bdb23

03-14-2006, 11:07 PM

Oh wait, he was a bad guy.

@drian

03-14-2006, 11:08 PM

That was not Mandy. Mandy has smaller breasticles. Believe me, I have admired her for sometime. Unless she got implants, but her face doesn't even look the same.

asmjm39

03-14-2006, 11:16 PM

DUDE, that one security guard that got offed by some random intruder didnt get a silent clock? WTF?????????????????????????????

Stupid writers!

junior94

03-14-2006, 11:21 PM

am i the only one who thought the girl was Mandy?

according to the IMDB it was

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000477/

that is a link to her... not the '24' page.

I think so, buddy. Except for them both having dark hair, I didn't think that girl looked anything even remotely like Mandy.

loogs91

03-14-2006, 11:35 PM

imdb also has kim listed for several episodes she's not in, and tony being in next week.

Althouh, to be fair, louis lombardi was in the credits last night...so there's no real definitive source on cast list at this point except watching.

but that's not mandy.

dobyblue

03-15-2006, 12:06 AM

I would rather have seen Mandy in those undies though.

greg87lax

03-15-2006, 12:16 AM

I would rather have seen Mandy in those undies though.
those were no ordinary undies...that was a thong
That actually may have been 24's first thong

baloneybandit21

03-15-2006, 12:39 AM

those were no ordinary undies...that was a thong
That actually may have been 24's first thong

and hopefully not nearly the last

mr.MikeD

03-15-2006, 01:33 AM

I would rather have seen Mandy in those undies though.
the L. word

@drian

03-15-2006, 02:00 AM

Althouh, to be fair, louis lombardi was in the credits last night...so there's no real definitive source on cast list at this point except watching.

That's because he was in the last episode, he was dead on the floor.

bdb23

03-15-2006, 09:32 AM

That's because he was in the last episode, he was dead on the floor.
Funny, that will be the same place Tony will be when the next episode begins.

Matt

03-15-2006, 10:15 AM

those were no ordinary undies...that was a thong
That actually may have been 24's first thong
Who cares about the thong, Mandy was nude in S01E01! Look closely right before the jeep comes to pick her up in the desert. :)

AlpineValley804

03-15-2006, 11:08 AM

Hey don't forget Chloe,
:multi j:multi

Chloe was not in season 1 or 2.

dobyblue

03-15-2006, 01:22 PM

Who cares about the thong, Mandy was nude in S01E01! Look closely right before the jeep comes to pick her up in the desert. :)
S1.02 I think you mean - S1.01 ended with her skydiving.
those were no ordinary undies...that was a thong
That actually may have been 24's first thong
Undies refers to the entire ensemble. :) Thong, teddy, bra, etc.

greg87lax

03-15-2006, 01:25 PM

Undies refers to the entire ensemble. :) Thong, teddy, bra, etc.
well i figured the thong was the highest ranking piece of 'undie'...and the most unique at least

tdowe99

03-15-2006, 04:28 PM

Who cares about the thong, Mandy was nude in S01E01!
This thread is worthless without pics. ;)

ah1252

03-15-2006, 05:02 PM

All I have to say is R.I.P Tony =(

@drian

03-15-2006, 11:39 PM

All I have to say is R.I.P Tony =(

He won't with all that coffee he drinks, unless he has water in his cubs mug.

tdowe99

03-16-2006, 07:49 AM

I think it's Budweiser in the Cubs mug, as seen in Season 4.

@drian

03-16-2006, 02:28 PM

I think it's Budweiser in the Cubs mug, as seen in Season 4.

Well I was hopeing he was in recovery. I guess looking back though, he probably wished he kept on drinking.

greg87lax

03-17-2006, 10:35 AM

I just noticed that Keifer has a playlist in the iTunes music store....thought some of you might be interested in checking it out

JimiThang1

03-18-2006, 01:12 AM

On the episode play by play on the official Fox site:

It does in fact say that Tony is dead

bdb23

03-18-2006, 12:50 PM

On the episode play by play on the official Fox site:

It does in fact say that Tony is dead
....

asmjm39

03-18-2006, 08:27 PM

....

drama
queen

bdb23

03-19-2006, 12:20 AM

:fun

@drian

03-19-2006, 01:39 AM

I need a case of the monday's

Bron Yr Aur

03-19-2006, 04:31 PM

Sunday's good enough for me...Episodes one and two of Season 3 tonight on WGN where I live...:thumbsup

greg87lax

03-19-2006, 10:46 PM

23 hours and 14 mins....im ready

GSUdawg521

03-20-2006, 03:39 PM

Too bad I can't watch with the rest of ya tonight, or even read this thread anymore :lorraine

I just started Season 4 last week :bounce

baloneybandit21

03-20-2006, 08:30 PM

Too bad I can't watch with the rest of ya tonight, or even read this thread anymore :lorraine

I just started Season 4 last week :bounce

ur in for a wild ride, season 4 was best season ever

Tiduwho

03-20-2006, 10:02 PM

NOOOOOOO.....Tony....

ProudestAnt

03-20-2006, 10:03 PM

Someone better take that mother fucker down for killing Tony...

bdb23

03-20-2006, 10:06 PM

Is Tony really dead????

[/sarcasm]

bdb23

03-20-2006, 10:10 PM

I was wondering when Wayne would be back.

Tiduwho

03-20-2006, 10:15 PM

Yeah, Wayne seemed like he was going to play a part in those first couple episodes. Wow, I'm a big fan of this Collette chick. She's smokin'.

However, the lesbian Homeland bitch and her lackey guy are already annoying.

bdb23

03-20-2006, 10:17 PM

Yep.

bdb23

03-20-2006, 10:21 PM

German agent???

bdb23

03-20-2006, 10:24 PM

"Right. We'll see about that."

:lol

Tiduwho

03-20-2006, 10:36 PM

Gahh....I hate how they keep making me worry about Chloe.

bdb23

03-20-2006, 10:47 PM

Shitty music during this bust. Worst music I've ever heard during the whole series.

bdb23

03-20-2006, 10:56 PM

How far is it to the damn presidential ranch???

junior94

03-20-2006, 10:57 PM

Ok, seems pretty obvious the VP just ordered the murder of Wayne Palmer. I'd say that pretty much confirms my diagnosis after seeing the VP for all of 5 seconds that he was the larger mole in the administration.

Tiduwho

03-20-2006, 10:57 PM

No f'ing way!!!!!! NO F'ING WAY!!! Audrie????

bdb23

03-20-2006, 10:57 PM

Wow!!! Didn't see that development.

bdb23

03-20-2006, 11:01 PM

Preview spoiler...

Damn. I just got chills of Nina right there.

junior94

03-20-2006, 11:03 PM

Poor ole' Jack. If Audrey truly is involved, he'll pretty much never be able to have a real feeling for another woman ever again. This'll be the second damn time he's gotten fucked with his pants on :p

edit: and ya know I'm probably the biggest critic of this show for someone who's actually a fan of it, but as far as I can see from this particular episode, I've nothing to complain about. This was a damn good hour.

twk13

03-20-2006, 11:17 PM

HOLYi.

FUCKING.

CRAP IN A BOTTLE

twk13

03-20-2006, 11:18 PM

i cant wait for that German Toll dude to go on a fucking rampage

twk13

03-20-2006, 11:18 PM

How far is it to the damn presidential ranch???YEA, and how does a van outrun a Lexus? If I was Palmer, I'd recognize that because of marshal law, all road laws are out the window, I would be goin like 90 down those streets.

joepsu0985

03-20-2006, 11:20 PM

Holly fuck...this might be pure genius.

Is the VP dirty?

If so that means that Cummings, the VP and Audrey are all connected in this plot to sell the gas. Oh yeah that dude who was Cummings' connect was obviously involved in Palmer's murder and his brother is about to break the news..

twk13

03-20-2006, 11:21 PM

"Right. We'll see about that."

:lolYou would do the same thing if you were in my situation.
I'll SHOW you what I'm gonna do in my position.

bdfresh62

03-20-2006, 11:21 PM

Pipsqueak

03-20-2006, 11:22 PM

never saw the Audrey thing coming....

damn fine hour of TV....

Pipsqueak

03-20-2006, 11:22 PM

never saw the Audrey thing coming....

damn fine hour of TV....

bdb23

03-20-2006, 11:24 PM

Is this what Henderson was refering to when he was talking to Jack a few weeks back. "If I tell you, you'll be opening pandora's box" and "you don't want to know." Could he have been referring to Audrey all along?
Hmmm. Good point. Could be, but I'm thinking that it's bigger.

joepsu0985

03-20-2006, 11:26 PM

Is this what Henderson was refering to when he was talking to Jack a few weeks back. "If I tell you, you'll be opening pandora's box" and "you don't want to know." Could he have been referring to Audrey all along?

Could be.

This whole administration could be to blame. They all might be dirty. I dont know about President Logan though. I bet Audrey's dad comes back into play.

bdfresh62

03-20-2006, 11:26 PM

This is a question in relation to what they showed in the previews for next week:

Who was the guy that asked if Wayne was dead yet? I didn't see.

junior94

03-20-2006, 11:28 PM

Heeeeey, wait a sec. I just thought of something...

Wasn't the terrorists' ORIGINAL PLAN to unleash ALL of the nerve gas on Russia (or at the very least, all except the small amount they used at the shopping mall)?

In which case then, this "deal" that was "brokered" for schematics of a building obviously to be hit in the LA area HAD TO have only happened just within the last couple of hours.

Right... ?

Well, but anyway, even so, I got a funny feeling Audrey's not involved at all, but her daddy William Devane's gonna turn back up and have been using her for it and he's a baddie.

joepsu0985

03-20-2006, 11:28 PM

^^^
oops

joepsu0985

03-20-2006, 11:28 PM

^^^
[/spoiler] me = idiot [/spoiler]

joepsu0985

03-20-2006, 11:31 PM

fuck ants is fucked...sorry

joepsu0985

03-20-2006, 11:33 PM

Anyways the dude who said that about Palmer's brother looked like Aaron

junior94

03-20-2006, 11:33 PM

In regards to bdfresh's question on next week's preview...

I'm almost positive it was in fact MR. HENDERSON, newly escapee of CTU Medical.

watchtower86

03-20-2006, 11:36 PM

I thought this was a good set up episode. I told my friend it's like book 5 of Harry Potter - all set-up for episodes to come.

bdfresh62

03-20-2006, 11:37 PM

Heeeeey, wait a sec. I just thought of something...

Wasn't the terrorists' ORIGINAL PLAN to unleash ALL of the nerve gas on Russia (or at the very least, all except the small amount they used at the shopping mall)?

In which case then, this "deal" that was "brokered" for schematics of a building obviously to be hit in the LA area HAD TO have only happened just within the last couple of hours.

I was thinking fo that during one of the commercial breaks.

Well, but anyway, even so, I got a funny feeling Audrey's not involved at all, but her daddy William Devane's gonna turn back up and have been using her for it and he's a baddie.

I also thought about that too. James Heller is so damn cool though, I really hope its not. I'd rather Audrey be the bad guy than him.

joepsu0985

03-20-2006, 11:38 PM

In regards to bdfresh's question on next week's preview...

I'm almost positive it was in fact MR. HENDERSON, newly escapee of CTU Medical.

What would he be doing comming out of that tunnel? That is what it looked like anyway.

junior94

03-20-2006, 11:43 PM

What would he be doing comming out of that tunnel? That is what it looked like anyway.

hmm... well I'm not sure about that, I only noticed the face, not really where he was. But I'll bet you play the replay that's certain to be on Fox's website and do a freeze-frame and you'll see his face. (and don't worry boys, the literal content of my post here is in no way a spoiler for next week ;)

scad_ny_41

03-20-2006, 11:43 PM

I dont know if this has been mentioned yet but I dont think Audry is involved, but rather it has to do with her father, the secretary of defense. I think HE is another one of the "patriots" like Cummings and the VP. If this has been mentioned by someone else then I'm sorry and I agree with you.

fuck...nevermind, someone right above my post DID mention it. haha

joepsu0985

03-20-2006, 11:46 PM

Audrey's father framed her possibly? I swear the back of the head looked like Aaron, but I didnt see the bandage. He did look a little nervous. The VP has to be dirty and maybe the lady from HLS?

joepsu0985

03-20-2006, 11:46 PM

Audrey's father framed her possibly? I swear the back of the head looked like Aaron, but I didnt see the bandage. He did look a little nervous. The VP has to be dirty and maybe the lady from HLS?

killymagee2000

03-21-2006, 12:06 AM

Tiduwho

03-21-2006, 12:28 AM

Ok. So I have a couple of questions. Was it not Audrey who gave Bauer the file on that terrosist bitch near the beginning of the episode? If so, why would she give Jack the name of the one person who could implicate her? I suspect that Audrey might be an unwitting dupe.

Very good point. She came up to him and said that Chloe decrypted a part of Henderson's computer and came up with Collette. Though...they never really cleared that with Chloe or anything. She just kinda came up to him. Very interesting.....

joepsu0985

03-21-2006, 12:32 AM

twk13

03-21-2006, 02:06 AM

this whole thing is so convoluted, but I LIKE IT

draven33

03-21-2006, 09:43 AM

ur in for a wild ride, season 4 was best season ever

Season 4 was solid, but in my opinion not near as good as any of the others. The best seasons to me are the odds....1, 3, and so far 5.....2 and 4 were not as good to me.

This season (5) is really shaping up to be one of the best, if not the best yet.

clayj41

03-21-2006, 09:49 AM

I didn't catch last night's episode because it was my 21st.....I'll have to check it out today.

dobyblue

03-21-2006, 01:43 PM

Shitty music during this bust. Worst music I've ever heard during the whole series.
I completely agree and it really seemed weird, like something out of Irreconcilable Differences or Terms of Endearment, not 24.
As for Collette, she's got this weird sort of man face thing going on; great body but a two face for sure. Mandy was much hotter.

taphntm

03-21-2006, 04:30 PM

Is this what Henderson was refering to when he was talking to Jack a few weeks back. "If I tell you, you'll be opening pandora's box" and "you don't want to know." Could he have been referring to Audrey all along?
that's a very good point... I didn't think Audrey could possibly be connected at all until you said that.

bdb23

03-21-2006, 04:38 PM

I completely agree and it really seemed weird, like something out of Irreconcilable Differences or Terms of Endearment, not 24.
As for Collette, she's got this weird sort of man face thing going on; great body but a two face for sure. Mandy was much hotter.
I was hoping you'd catch that. You always seem to appreciate the music in the show.

baloneybandit21

03-21-2006, 07:22 PM

I think the thing with audrey must be kind of like what happened last season with paul raines how it looked like he was a terrrorist but it was really someone below him working in his name. it was proly like someone in her office but she didnt really know about it

greg87lax

03-21-2006, 08:09 PM

eh...i hate audry, i hope it was her and i hope she dies because of it

tankdan

03-21-2006, 09:56 PM

Bron Yr Aur

03-21-2006, 11:32 PM

Last night's episode was definitely a nice, solid show. Felt like a Season 1 episode, really, very tense, things aren't what they seem to be, for example, Teo (or whatever his name is) tackling Curtis and he turns out to be not-so-bad, and then the tension around getting Collette. Wayne showing up was a big surprise, and then the last 7 minutes were great, with Wayne being chased down and Audrey being caught; finally some real suspense.

Also, you've got to figure the German investigator guy (Teo?) will be involved in a big way later on with Jack...

I'm also not quite sold on Audrey being the mole. Who knows who is controlling Collette...could be any number of people, though it would be very cool if Audrey was bad; again, very season 1-like...actually very unexpected, even though it has been done before.

Is Kim going to be involved much with the rest of the season? I can't believe she will just be able to get out of the city and that's the end of her...honestly, there has to be some closure to the Kim/Jack/Barry story.

And yes, Collette is quite hot.

bdfresh62

03-21-2006, 11:36 PM

Why does everyone hate Audrey?

greg87lax

03-22-2006, 01:51 AM

I have a question:

Was Colette with Theo because she was stealing from him, or was she simply with Theo, her lover, while she was downloading the schematics?

Cause, cmon, isn't it possible that Colette KNEW that Theo was German intel and was, therefore, actually playing HIM, not vice-versa.

Dan
yes, it COULD be possible, BUT remember her saying that "there are some things i thought you just couldn't fake" ...but maybe thats just her trying to play jack
:twenty4

Beefsteak1138

03-22-2006, 09:35 AM

Why does everyone hate Audrey?
She's got a butter face.

Footestompgp1

03-22-2006, 01:56 PM

i don't know if you guys can help me but i missed mondays episode becuase i was at Michigan's NIT game. my usually torrent sites for downloading episodes arn't producing for me right now...... you guys know of any other torrent site that is good for getting just a recent episode??

thanks

bdb23

03-22-2006, 02:42 PM

tankdan

03-22-2006, 03:10 PM

Footestompgp1,
That was SOME game, that Michigan-Notre Dame double-overtime nail-biter. I'm sure it was awesome!

In other news, this week's episode of 24 featured noone dying.

Dan

Bartender84

03-22-2006, 03:59 PM

Footestompgp1

03-22-2006, 04:13 PM

Footestompgp1,
That was SOME game, that Michigan-Notre Dame double-overtime nail-biter. I'm sure it was awesome!

In other news, this week's episode of 24 featured noone dying.

Dan

yeah, it was an aamzing game. i was in the fifth row right behind the michigan coaches. I was like 15 feet away from dion harris when he hit the game winning shot. unbelievable.

i guess as soon as we won, they focused on me and i was on the jumbo-tron.....i don't know if that means i was on TV but either way it was cool becuase everyone was jumping all over the place and i was just standing there with my hands in the air.

Thanks for the torrent who ever that was, looking forward to it

tankdan

03-22-2006, 08:31 PM

Wow, thanks for spoiling it for him, jackass. I hope Bauer shoots you in the leg.

Hey buddy, it was an accident, I guess it's pretty hard to juggle between actual spoilers and spoilers for people who didn't watch the episode. Ya know what I do when I miss an episode? I don't go on a message board, that's for sure.

And is the name-calling really necessary?

Meanwhile, since I actually enjoy talking about the show...
In response to greg87lax's response to my post: it seems pretty random to have a genuine love interest involving an intelligence agent and a terrorist-collaborator. Every other time that we've had a love interest (Chase-Kim, Chloe-Spencer, Audrey-Jack, Michelle-Tony), that relationship has played a part in the show. It's hard to imagine that the writers' only purpose in having Teo and Colette together was to provide an extra little bump on Jack's path to getting Colette. Ya dig?

Dan

Bron Yr Aur

03-22-2006, 11:11 PM

Yeah, not your fault tankdan...talking about the last episode is definitely not talking about spoilers. If you haven't seen it, don't look on the boards.

loogs91

03-23-2006, 10:30 AM

I think teo is going to be pretty big...he could be the new Tony. I mean, JAck and Tony didn't get along at first, but he proved himself later.

taphntm

03-23-2006, 11:51 AM

Why does everyone hate Audrey?
yea, I actually like her... she figures stuff out that nobody else would.

@drian

03-23-2006, 02:33 PM

yea, I actually like her... she figures stuff out that nobody else would.

Maybe she knows so much is that she is so bad. I actualy don't think she is bad, but I hope she is, I think it would make for some awesome tv.

baloneybandit21

03-23-2006, 11:12 PM

I think teo is going to be pretty big...he could be the new Tony. I mean, JAck and Tony didn't get along at first, but he proved himself later.

not really since he works for german intelligence and jack works for LA CTU. they dont exactly mix very well

thegreatr1

03-23-2006, 11:24 PM

i agree that teo will play a big role...he is pisssssssssssssed about the wet list

bdb23

03-24-2006, 12:12 PM

My prediction on Teo... (don't know if spoiler necessary but I'll do it)

He's going to notify the Chinese.

Mel4AU

03-24-2006, 12:15 PM

Was he also the guy on Lost?

edit: found it.

silentwarrior

03-26-2006, 01:30 PM

I think teo is going to be pretty big...he could be the new Tony. I mean, JAck and Tony didn't get along at first, but he proved himself later.

New Tony? I don't think Tony can be replaced. Does anyone else think they are going a little too far with killing people off? Who's left from season 1...Jack and Kim?? I guess I'm just bummed about Tony dying...:lorraine

SatelliteEyes

03-26-2006, 05:00 PM

Yeah, Im pissed the killed off Tony. They could have left him in the coma all day long and Id be happier about his situation.

Does anyone think that Michelle is still alive? I havent seen last weeks episode yet, but I was on the 24 website. When people have a spouse who is deceased, it says so, like Teri Bauer and Paul Raines in the profiles of Jack and Audrey. In Tony's profile, it says he is deceased, but it lists Michelle as his wife, and mentions nothing about being deceased.

It makes no sense that she'd still be alive, they must not have updated the profile all the way since she died this season.

tdowe99

03-26-2006, 07:02 PM

Is anybody capturing the episode tomorrow?
I won't be home until after 10pm.
If not, what alternative method do you suggest? BT?

greg87lax

03-26-2006, 09:46 PM

Is anybody capturing the episode tomorrow?
I won't be home until after 10pm.
If not, what alternative method do you suggest? BT?
yea bt works great

baloneybandit21

03-26-2006, 10:48 PM

New Tony? I don't think Tony can be replaced. Does anyone else think they are going a little too far with killing people off? Who's left from season 1...Jack and Kim?? I guess I'm just bummed about Tony dying...:lorraine

theres also aaron and mike

junior94

03-27-2006, 08:37 PM

hmm... curious bit regarding the cast list for this evening's episode, unless it's just Yahoo not being altogether on their public info...

Carlos Bernard aka Tony is indeed among the featured cast in their info listing of the show. Yahoo is my homepage, that is, my personalized version, and in the tonight's TV grid part when you click on the hyperlink for 24, the small section of info that it shows you for it (time, channel, producers, cast, etc) That's where I'm talking about

Mark

03-27-2006, 09:15 PM

yahoo doesn't know shit.

tony is dead people. get over it.

Mark

03-27-2006, 09:15 PM

btw, i fucking love seeing it at 8:00, rather than 10:00. :hump

baloneybandit21

03-27-2006, 09:42 PM

btw, i fucking love seeing it at 8:00, rather than 10:00. :hump

yeah but i hate the feeling of not knowing what happened and hoping an entire day will go by that someone could tell me what happened

junior94

03-27-2006, 09:53 PM

yahoo doesn't know shit.

tony is dead people. get over it.

Oh I don't mind, it's not necessarily bothering me really that Tony's gone and not trying to believe he's really not, I just wasn't sure by their listing if it meant Fox was trying to be sly about something or whatever.

bdb23

03-27-2006, 10:22 PM

So far, so good. :D

clayj41

03-27-2006, 10:25 PM

So far, so good. :D

:thumbsup Pretty intense! I can't believe Jack got taken down by some whack security guards!:lol

bdb23

03-27-2006, 10:26 PM

3 on 1. It's bound to happen. :D

clayj41

03-27-2006, 10:28 PM

3 on 1. It's bound to happen. :D

:thumbsup It takes at least 3 people to take him down!:lol

bdb23

03-27-2006, 10:30 PM

Or one Henderson.

clayj41

03-27-2006, 10:35 PM

Or one Henderson.

That's Robocop though......he took down A2o9!:lol

bdb23

03-27-2006, 10:39 PM

You do not want to try me.

:lol

junior94

03-27-2006, 10:41 PM

:lol :lol :lol BEST line of the season.

"And now I'm.... upset."

bdb23

03-27-2006, 10:44 PM

:lol Sexual harrassment chick.

junior94

03-27-2006, 10:47 PM

:rolleyes ... *sigh*... Sadly typical of 24. Just when you've hit riding a good clip for awhile of exciting drama and suspense, needlessly introduce a stupid insanely deluded character (the new sexual harrassment girl), and for... what, I dunno... they gonna go with her bringing down Bill Buchanan now over this? And this is how'll they'll do it? Lord I hope not, that'd just be weak :shrug

bdb23

03-27-2006, 10:57 PM

WOW!!! :eek

clayj41

03-27-2006, 10:57 PM

Nice ending!:cool

clayj41

03-27-2006, 11:00 PM

Carl Edwards!

junior94

03-27-2006, 11:01 PM

Whoa! Funny thing is, I had just been thinking earlier actually how it'd be nice to see Jack get shot at some point over the next couple hours, ya know, just like in the shoulder or the leg or something, to show he can't possibly evade EVERY bullet over 24 hours, just to furthur how vulnerable he ultimately is and that he wouldn't be at 100%.

bdb23

03-27-2006, 11:02 PM

:lol I was wondering when his episode would air.

BTW Clay, that was worthy of spoiler since it's from the preview. :D

clayj41

03-27-2006, 11:02 PM

:lol I was wondering when his episode would air.

BTW Clay, that was worthy of spoiler since it's from the preview. :D

I actually contemplated it, but I figured most people wouldn't understand anyways.:lol

joepsu0985

03-27-2006, 11:04 PM

What happens next? We know the govt is dirty, the gas should be stopped. Jack may die (yeah right). Do the chinese come back?

watchtower86

03-27-2006, 11:05 PM

I may sound stupid, but how many more episodes are there for the season? I know it's 10PM, but what time did it all start?

junior94

03-27-2006, 11:09 PM

Carl Edwards!

Wait, I don't remember who that is, that's not the VP's name, is it? The only person I recognized who was there that maybe hasn't been for any length of time was the first lady's assistant chick.

AlpineValley804

03-27-2006, 11:10 PM

Great episode tonight. At first I thought the sexual harrassment chick was banging hot, but she's definitely a little paranoid. So that guy is an asshole, but who can blame him when he is working with someone who is as paranoid as Buffs? The writers must have some bad experiences with people named Sherry.

junior94

03-27-2006, 11:10 PM

I may sound stupid, but how many more episodes are there for the season? I know it's 10PM, but what time did it all start?

I believe it started at 7am, so we're actually not much further than halfway thru.

tdowe99

03-27-2006, 11:11 PM

This was Episode 15.

clayj41

03-27-2006, 11:12 PM

Wait, I don't remember who that is, that's not the VP's name, is it? The only person I recognized who was there that maybe hasn't been for any length of time was the first lady's assistant chick.

He's a NASCAR driver.

joepsu0985

03-27-2006, 11:14 PM

That was a damn good ending by the way. The nerve gas is kicked, and thye didnt do anything extra, so we are left guessing.

junior94

03-27-2006, 11:15 PM

He's a NASCAR driver.

oh, I take it that was a joke then? :p

Only reason I went with it is because Carl sounded like a name that seemed familiar to me, that maybe I'd seen on the show so far :D

junior94

03-27-2006, 11:21 PM

This new Sherry chick, I was thinking that even if they're not gonna take this in a direction where she'll start the downfall of Bill by way of faulty accusations, it still bothers me how they did this, writing wise. I mean obviously they introduced a new character mainly as a way for someone to give the CTU staff the factual background of the PSI lowering, and that's how they could pinpoint which facility it was, since they couldn't interrogate anyone (particularly Collette) regarding that. So, okay, what luck, the new tech girl just happened to be a Chem major and she could tell us.

But, again, and without knowing just yet how far they'll go with it, to also stick in this thing about the sexual harrassment, what they're intimating at with the little moment she had with Chloe and Bill, that's so laughably stupid, because of course only a psycho would believe they'd just been sexually harrassed. I just don't understand why the writers have to throw something like that in along with it, for me it only hurts the credibility of everything else.

clayj41

03-27-2006, 11:30 PM

oh, I take it that was a joke then? :p

Only reason I went with it is because Carl sounded like a name that seemed familiar to me, that maybe I'd seen on the show so far :D

He has a cameo in an upcoming episode, I don't think its worth a spoiler because he can't play a very vital role.

bdfresh62

03-27-2006, 11:39 PM

Pretty intense episode. Can't help to think that Jack interogating and choking Audrey is going to hurt their relationship. And what's up with physco sexual harassment chick?

twk13

03-27-2006, 11:40 PM

Pretty intense episode. Can't help to think that Jack interogating and choking Audrey is going to hurt their relationship. And what's up with physco sexual harassment chick?Yea, when she went ape shit about Bill touching her, I thought she was joking

watchtower86

03-27-2006, 11:42 PM

I can't believe this was only Episode 15. There is so much more to still happen.

twk13

03-27-2006, 11:50 PM

I can't believe this was only Episode 15. There is so much more to still happen.that makes me so glad

junior94

03-28-2006, 12:07 AM

I can't believe this was only Episode 15. There is so much more to still happen.

And the funny thing with this having been only ep 15, and considering the January start format that 24 uses, running all the new shows off in a row, just 2 other shows I think of that I watch off the top of my head, Simpsons just had their 15th show on Sunday, and LOST just had only their 16th episode last week, and they of course both started last September! (maybe Oct for Simpsons, but still...)

clayj41

03-28-2006, 01:10 AM

This is really stupid, but I laughed.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qbchVNnWAvs&search=24

WolfmanDMB

03-28-2006, 01:58 AM

Carl Edwards!

s1 carl?

i always imagined his first name started with a "k".

WolfmanDMB

03-28-2006, 02:04 AM

This is really stupid, but I laughed.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qbchVNnWAvs&search=24

unbelievably dumb. was that scene with erin even in the show? possibly one the bonus disc for season 3 or 4?

WolfmanDMB

03-28-2006, 02:05 AM

btw,
(season 3 spolier)
when jack shot chapelle in season 3 i cried just like he did at the beginning of that dumb film

junior94

03-28-2006, 06:39 AM

unbelievably dumb. was that scene with erin even in the show? possibly one the bonus disc for season 3 or 4?

No, it was the "prequel" taking place between whatever seasons it was. It was on the DVD, where the "bonus features were unrated", thus the big deal about Jack actually getting to drop the F-bomb in a scene :cool

clayj41

03-28-2006, 10:15 AM

s1 carl?

i always imagined his first name started with a "k".

No, the NASCAR driver.

bdb23

03-28-2006, 10:38 AM

No, the NASCAR driver.
....

junior94

03-28-2006, 11:32 AM

I'm still waitin for the damn Chinese government to pop up and be involved in this somehow, dammit.
Which, hey, considering we still got a good, what - 9 episodes left, that's quite a ways to go, and based on the end of last night's, looks to me we've perhaps neutralized the last of the nerve gas and Jack's about to apprehend he who we know to be the highest ringleader so far.... so maybe we're right at the spot where this is about to take its next biggest plot turn into the next 'phase'.

Actually speaking of the Chinese, and not that I think if even the answer to this question is yes that if the person would show up again but... the CTU agent that dropped the dime on Jack and positively ID'd him to the Chinese during the attack at the end of last season - was he still alive when last we saw? I can't remember.

Ya know I also can't help but wonder if we've not seen the last of Henderson's wife. After all why would they get an actress of JoBeth Williams's stature to play a 5 minute part in one episode? I mean I know it's not like she's winning Oscars and breaking box office records these days, but she's still a fairly big name, seems odd they would've cast her if that's all she'd had to do....

Tiduwho

03-28-2006, 01:15 PM

I'll tell you what, those terrorists sure had one hell of a contingency plan considering their main objective was to use the gas on RUSSIA.

I like how they brought Palmer's brother back, but where the heck did he get that gigantic super gun? I don't think you exactly find those laying around in tunnels out in the forest.

Well, looks like Jack is dead though. What a good series 24 was.

clayj41

03-28-2006, 01:49 PM

....

I told you most people wouldn't understand Brian.

tdowe99

03-28-2006, 04:09 PM

So Wayne Palmer is just knocked out, right?

@drian

03-29-2006, 12:45 AM

Ya know I also can't help but wonder if we've not seen the last of Henderson's wife. After all why would they get an actress of JoBeth Williams's stature to play a 5 minute part in one episode? I mean I know it's not like she's winning Oscars and breaking box office records these days, but she's still a fairly big name, seems odd they would've cast her if that's all she'd had to do....

Since Jack obviously knew her from before, and since we follow Jack around all day long, and since we had never met this women yet, I guess it helps that the producers cast someone recognizable. So maybe we feel like we actualy do already know her.

Bron Yr Aur

03-29-2006, 10:33 PM

Since Jack obviously knew her from before, and since we follow Jack around all day long, and since we had never met this women yet, I guess it helps that the producers cast someone recognizable. So maybe we feel like we actualy do already know her.

That seems like some pretty extensive reasoning...I don't really buy it. I'm doubting they would spend the extra money getting an only mildly-unknown actress to play a part an unknown actress could do for less money. Unless they thought it was a key role to get right.

And yeah, Jack surely isn't dead. If he was, well, the 24 execs can kiss their solid ratings goodbye. Killing off Jack would be suicide for the show. This all doesn't mean anything unless Kiefer wanted off; yet, this is the most success and notoriety he's had his entire career, his movie history has been pretty shitty. Plus, Kiefer has already signed on for another season of 24 and also, reportedly, a 24 movie.

junior94

03-29-2006, 11:55 PM

That seems like some pretty extensive reasoning...I don't really buy it. I'm doubting they would spend the extra money getting an only mildly-unknown actress to play a part an unknown actress could do for less money. Unless they thought it was a key role to get right.

And yeah, Jack surely isn't dead. If he was, well, the 24 execs can kiss their solid ratings goodbye. Killing off Jack would be suicide for the show. This all doesn't mean anything unless Kiefer wanted off; yet, this is the most success and notoriety he's had his entire career, his movie history has been pretty shitty. Plus, Kiefer has already signed on for another season of 24 and also, reportedly, a 24 movie.

Whoa whoa whoa, hold on there mister :p I appreciate you backing up my JoBeth Williams point in your first paragraph, but it's with your second that I take some issue :cool

Well on the Jack's character thing, while I 100% feel that he didn't die in this episode, I have to admit that would be pretty ballsy of them to go and kill him off like that, and right in the middle of the season. And a Jack-less 24 wouldn't necessarily be a ratings kiss of death. One thing the producers have been adamant about now for a few years is that the basic concept of 24 is larger than anything else about it, and they're very conscious that it's a format that can continue to strive in the future with a different central character. Kiefer may very well be signed already for next year and that's fine, but I see a definite possibility of the show going on at some point minus Jack Bauer.

And regarding Kiefer's overall career... bite your tongue, young man :p I'd say it's arguable that this is the most notoriety he's gotten his entire career. True, he might not have previously ever been in the position to be nomiated for such things as Golden Globes, etc as Best Actor and whatnot, but he's definitely had some solid stretches where he was quite well off. I believe he'd taken a little self-imposed vacation from acting for awhile, and several of the movies he'd been doing right before leading into 24 were predominately directo-to-video dreck, but especially certainly during the mid-80's he was on fire. Maybe not as a leading man, but that's not always the smartest way to go, and he was enjoying much success and stature in the public for playing good supporting roles in ensemble films.

Kiefer Sutherland was one of my two favorite character actors from the 80's and into the early/mid 90's (Kevin Bacon being the other), that's why I was so excited when I first ever started hearing about the beginnings of "24 (even if overall it's been a much bumpy ride at times since :rolleyes ) but I'm still extremely happy for him that he's really gotten to receiving a lot of positive attention again, and the accolades along with, even with as silly as they can often be, ain't bad either :thumbsup

taphntm

03-30-2006, 12:12 AM

people actually think jack is dead? :lol

taphntm

03-30-2006, 12:15 AM

Unless they thought it was a key role to get right.
:lol "ok mr. hanks, we picked you for this part so don't screw it up. when you get shot in the leg pretend like it hurts a LOT." :D

taphntm

03-30-2006, 12:21 AM

I'll tell you what, those terrorists sure had one hell of a contingency plan considering their main objective was to use the gas on RUSSIA.
of course they did... it wasn't exactly a contingency plan since the whole plan was to use it on the US if the president didn't give the russian president over to them... not really a plan b... the only plan b they seemed to use was stealing a police car to get through the roadblocks

junior94

03-30-2006, 01:07 AM

:lol "ok mr. hanks, we picked you for this part so don't screw it up. when you get shot in the leg pretend like it hurts a LOT." :D

"Well... but what's my motivation here? How do I really feel about getting shot? And why is he really shooting me?"
:lol

edit: and it's a good thing he's not method, like someone like DeNiro - he'd probably demand to ACTUALLY be shot in the leg :D

junior94

03-31-2006, 12:57 PM

Whoa, having just made a little 24 reference over in the "LOST" thread, a small sidenote just occurred to me. Image that back in the season premiere, aka 'this morning', if Jack's (or, Frank rather :p ) foreman had in fact had a spot open and available for him to work today. He would've had to still get where he is now with having to actually get himself the hell off an oilrig to begin with - now that would've been interesting! :lol

Although, now that I say that.... was it just a normal refinery on land he would've been working at? It wasn't some more remote location he would've had to then travel to... I mean I know we saw him in like a dirty gathering area around buildings and such, but for some reason I was thinking he would've had to then travel a bit to the actual refinery had he been given work. oh well :rolleyes :D

Bron Yr Aur

03-31-2006, 05:59 PM

Whoa whoa whoa, hold on there mister :p I appreciate you backing up my JoBeth Williams point in your first paragraph, but it's with your second that I take some issue :cool

Well on the Jack's character thing, while I 100% feel that he didn't die in this episode, I have to admit that would be pretty ballsy of them to go and kill him off like that, and right in the middle of the season. And a Jack-less 24 wouldn't necessarily be a ratings kiss of death. One thing the producers have been adamant about now for a few years is that the basic concept of 24 is larger than anything else about it, and they're very conscious that it's a format that can continue to strive in the future with a different central character. Kiefer may very well be signed already for next year and that's fine, but I see a definite possibility of the show going on at some point minus Jack Bauer.

And regarding Kiefer's overall career... bite your tongue, young man :p I'd say it's arguable that this is the most notoriety he's gotten his entire career. True, he might not have previously ever been in the position to be nomiated for such things as Golden Globes, etc as Best Actor and whatnot, but he's definitely had some solid stretches where he was quite well off. I believe he'd taken a little self-imposed vacation from acting for awhile, and several of the movies he'd been doing right before leading into 24 were predominately directo-to-video dreck, but especially certainly during the mid-80's he was on fire. Maybe not as a leading man, but that's not always the smartest way to go, and he was enjoying much success and stature in the public for playing good supporting roles in ensemble films.

Meh...Kiefer is a bit of a one-note actor, IMO...

However, to the main point that 24 could survive without Jack Bauer. Perhaps it could've two years ago, but we are in the fifth season with Jack Bauer as the main character, and he, Kim, Aaron and very few others are the only ones left from the first season. I do not think it would be easy to kill off Jack and keep the ratings they have now. Who is going to replace Jack Bauer as the main character? Chloe? Bill Buchanan? President Logan? Haha, but seriously, it could've possibly been Chase, or Tony; but now the only possibility is Curtis, but his character has barely been developed. We see him out and around on the job, but with many of the other characters (Jack, David Palmer, Tony, Michelle, Kim) we see much further into their character.

Plus, it's not just about the real-time aspect and the edgy nature of the show anymore. There's also the personal connection, and Jack is one of the only characters left for people to identify with. Plus, the split-screens have been almost eliminated (sadly), so the only thing left is the fact that things occur in real time. A large portion of the hardcore 24 fanbase also watches the show because of Jack's character and his story, and if he was eliminated, who is their to follow? I know a LOT of the fanbase would stop watching (go look at the 24 boards on fox.com).

junior94

03-31-2006, 06:12 PM

Meh...Kiefer is a bit of a one-note actor, IMO...

However, to the main point that 24 could survive without Jack Bauer. Perhaps it could've two years ago, but we are in the fifth season with Jack Bauer as the main character, and he, Kim, Aaron and very few others are the only ones left from the first season. I do not think it would be easy to kill off Jack and keep the ratings they have now. Who is going to replace Jack Bauer as the main character? Chloe? Bill Buchanan? President Logan? Haha, but seriously, it could've possibly been Chase, or Tony; but now the only possibility is Curtis, but his character has barely been developed. We see him out and around on the job, but with many of the other characters (Jack, David Palmer, Tony, Michelle, Kim) we see much further into their character.

Plus, it's not just about the real-time aspect and the edgy nature of the show anymore. There's also the personal connection, and Jack is one of the only characters left for people to identify with. Plus, the split-screens have been almost eliminated (sadly), so the only thing left is the fact that things occur in real time. A large portion of the hardcore 24 fanbase also watches the show because of Jack's character and his story, and if he was eliminated, who is their to follow? I know a LOT of the fanbase would stop watching (go look at the 24 boards on fox.com).

Well, obviously I couldn't say for sure whether or not they'd get equal ratings, they may very well not and the experiment would fail and they'd have to end up closing up shop entirely after all, but I promise you, a 24 format carrying on without Jack Bauer (& not in the too terribly long future from now) is very much in the producers plans. And I'm not saying the central focus would be handed over to an already existing cast member, in fact my guess is that they'd bring in a whole new actor, someone else more or less on the same level as Sutherland. Again, my argument isn't that it would definitely work, but I guarantee they intend to try it out. I would be very very surprised if Kiefer signed for any more than 2 additional scenes after the finish of this one, I highly doubt he'd do any more than that, if not his final one next year. And so, if the ratings are still strong by then, sure enough you'll see at least a half season commitment to the show with a new lead.

Bron Yr Aur

03-31-2006, 08:07 PM

Well, obviously I couldn't say for sure whether or not they'd get equal ratings, they may very well not and the experiment would fail and they'd have to end up closing up shop entirely after all, but I promise you, a 24 format carrying on without Jack Bauer (& not in the too terribly long future from now) is very much in the producers plans. And I'm not saying the central focus would be handed over to an already existing cast member, in fact my guess is that they'd bring in a whole new actor, someone else more or less on the same level as Sutherland. Again, my argument isn't that it would definitely work, but I guarantee they intend to try it out. I would be very very surprised if Kiefer signed for any more than 2 additional scenes after the finish of this one, I highly doubt he'd do any more than that, if not his final one next year. And so, if the ratings are still strong by then, sure enough you'll see at least a half season commitment to the show with a new lead.

Yeah, I know what you are saying...I'm sure they plan to continue with 24 after Jack is gone, but he has signed on for at least one more season already, and at least one 24 movie, so what I'm saying, is that....well, obviuosly he isn't going to be killed now. However, I think 24 would work best with a character that we know becoming the central character after Jack's gone.

draven33

04-02-2006, 09:04 PM

So Wayne Palmer is just knocked out, right?

Yes.....Im convinced that he's going to finally come to and tell Agent Pierce that he just saved a bunch of money on his car insurance by switching to Gieco.

baloneybandit21

04-02-2006, 09:17 PM

just saw this on a commercial:

on a commercial for tomorrows episode they showed kiefer, so he cant be dead, even though no one really thought he was

greg87lax

04-02-2006, 09:30 PM

just saw this on a commercial:

on a commercial for tomorrows episode they showed kiefer, so he cant be dead, even though no one really thought he was
:lol good thing you used spoiler tags :thumbsup

Dancing Ants

04-03-2006, 01:33 AM

24 can't exist w/o jack.

curtis doesn't take enough risks.

jack takes risks, and that's why he's the top dog.

@drian

04-03-2006, 01:07 PM

Maybe when they kill off jack they could start having spin off 24's like CSI, i dunno maybe 24 CTU: Boise you know hit up the really big cities.

junior94

04-03-2006, 02:12 PM

Maybe when they kill off jack they could start having spin off 24's like CSI, i dunno maybe 24 CTU: Boise you know hit up the really big cities.

Well with you bringing up other US cities, the thing it makes me think about and what seems kinda funny -- hasn't in every season of 24 so far the president has alwasy either been in Los Angeles or at least on his way travelling there? Man that's just a bad track record. So just have whoever the president is take LA off his public schedule for good and that should pretty much quell terrorism :thumbsup :lol

-I'm cool

WolfmanDMB

04-03-2006, 05:34 PM

Well with you bringing up other US cities, the thing it makes me think about and what seems kinda funny -- hasn't in every season of 24 so far the president has alwasy either been in Los Angeles or at least on his way travelling there? Man that's just a bad track record. So just have whoever the president is take LA off his public schedule for good and that should pretty much quell terrorism :thumbsup :lol

-I'm cool

season 2 palmer was in oregon on a short vacation.

taphntm

04-03-2006, 06:45 PM

24 won't continue without jack people. :rolleyes

baloneybandit21

04-03-2006, 08:38 PM

Mikearney 25

04-03-2006, 08:41 PM

i think he def holds the show together and brings in a much larger audience than if he left the show, plus how would he die, it would hafta be the most perfect way to go out in film or television history to appease the fans

Holds the show together??? He pretty much IS the show. I dont know of anyone who watches cause they like Chloe.

taphntm

04-03-2006, 09:07 PM

I agree, especially now that tony's dead... they really killed a lot of the best... now they need to find a new cast... Tony really was one of my favs :(

baloneybandit21

04-03-2006, 09:28 PM

ive always thought that President Palmer wouldve made a great real president. actor reading lines as a president is the same thing as bush reading his lines and being told what to do

junior94

04-03-2006, 09:31 PM

24 can't exist w/o jack.

curtis doesn't take enough risks.

jack takes risks, and that's why he's the top dog.

Again, if they were to continue a new phase of 24 without Jack, I highly doubt they'd just "promote" an existing character. They'd bring in an entirely new person, an actor with relatively the same drawing power as Sutherland. Either a veteran TV actor, or even someone who hasn't been doing many films lately and/or has hit something of a long cold streak and feels a high profile TV role would do him some good. I dunno, maybe someone like.... Christian Slater. Just throwin' it out there off the top of my head, people. Don't turn the flamethrowers on ;)

And, also again, I'm not saying that necessarily a Bauer-less version of 24 would definitely be produced and aired, just that you can bet the farm it's a concept that the producers have/are/will put a solid amount of legitimate thought and concern into. You need but only listen to their own statements over the last couple years to realize this.

-I'm cool

Tiduwho

04-03-2006, 10:03 PM

He lives!

bdb23

04-03-2006, 10:04 PM

Too cheesey for my tastes. LAME.

clayj41

04-03-2006, 10:04 PM

Too cheesey for my tastes. LAME.

Eh......

bdb23

04-03-2006, 10:05 PM

Jack is still human. They make him seem like the Terminator.

clayj41

04-03-2006, 10:06 PM

Jack is still human. They make him seem like the Terminator.

That first sentence is debatable.:lol

bdb23

04-03-2006, 10:10 PM

That first sentence is debatable.:lol
:lol

Tiduwho

04-03-2006, 10:13 PM

Wow, just tell them you stupid bitch! I mean wow. Fine, give the evidence after they get your daughter, I'm sure they'll help you out. But come on, say who it is.

clayj41

04-03-2006, 10:16 PM

Jim Hill!

bdb23

04-03-2006, 10:16 PM

Jim Hill = Carl Edwards

:lol

clayj41

04-03-2006, 10:17 PM

Jim Hill = Carl Edwards

:lol

"Take me to your station.":lol

clayj41

04-03-2006, 10:25 PM

....and just think Brian, this time last year we were watching UNC beat Illinois.:D

junior94

04-03-2006, 10:27 PM

oye :rolleyes See this is one of the major things that always bothers me about this show. Typically overdramatic characters written larger than life. I mean, this guy, the 2nd man in charge for Homeland Security, he might as well have a horns and a tail and be carrying a pitchfork :evil He so ridiculously obviously has his own agenda, I mean he works for Homeland Security, ya know, defending America, as in on the same side as CTU! :lol And yet he's this overly evil character who has these devious ways of getting these people in trouble and/or losing their jobs altogether.

-I'm cool

bdb23

04-03-2006, 10:27 PM

:twak

clayj41

04-03-2006, 10:31 PM

:twak

I thought you'd like that.:lol

bdb23

04-03-2006, 10:43 PM

Logan thinks he's BMOC. Ass.

Tiduwho

04-03-2006, 10:46 PM

Watch Wayne Palmer do something stupid like shoot Evelyn.

bdb23

04-03-2006, 10:56 PM

It's not the VP!!!

bdb23

04-03-2006, 10:57 PM

It's LOGAN!!!

joepsu0985

04-03-2006, 10:57 PM

Oh my god. WTF...That came right out of left field.

Footestompgp1

04-03-2006, 10:57 PM

Woooooooooooooooooooah!!!

ProudestAnt

04-03-2006, 10:57 PM

Mother Fucker!

joepsu0985

04-03-2006, 10:57 PM

Why would Logan do that though?

clayj41

04-03-2006, 10:57 PM

:eek :eek :eek

Tiduwho

04-03-2006, 10:58 PM

joepsu0985

04-03-2006, 10:59 PM

Im speechless. Wow...the writers are pure genuis. They kept it hidden the entire time. Not even a slightest hint.

Mel4AU

04-03-2006, 10:59 PM

I'm totally confused.

junior94

04-03-2006, 10:59 PM

bahh! Ya know I'm ashamed of myself, I fell for them trying to make it seem like the most obvious person in the room (like evil 24 characters are typically written overly evil), I said it the was VP from the very beginning, but of course it wasn't, because they were pointing a huge blinking arrow at him the entire time. duh

joepsu0985

04-03-2006, 11:00 PM

Tiduwho

04-03-2006, 11:01 PM

I'm just so lost....why would Logan personally commision Jack? And by the way, where is Mike?

Footestompgp1

04-03-2006, 11:02 PM

i don't have any idea what the knew plot is going to be........ anyone?

Bartndrpleez

04-03-2006, 11:02 PM

Uhhhh what the hell? :lorraine:twak:(

clayj41

04-03-2006, 11:03 PM

Apparently the President was just "acting" like a bumbling idiot the entire time....fooled me.

taphntm

04-03-2006, 11:03 PM

WWHHAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTT??????????????????? :eek

joepsu0985

04-03-2006, 11:03 PM

i don't have any idea what the knew plot is going to be........ anyone?

I dont understand how Logan got involved, unless the chinese are comming back into play. Didnt Logan want Jack dead last season. Palmer knew he was alive. They also know that Audrey and everyone at CTU helped him.

junior94

04-03-2006, 11:03 PM

Woah woah woah. Logan is the biggest blubbering vagina of a President television has ever seen. That doesn't make any sense. Why would he be masquerading in a conversation with Walt Cummings if he was in on it with him the whole time? I'm lost on this one.

Well don't forget what happened back in season 1. They wrote the first 13 episodes to be almost practically self-contained, just in case it didn't get picked up for the whole season so at least viewers would have a "completed" story in a way. Remember that Ira Gaines had Jack coerced into killing Nina (though Jack faked his way out of it of course), and given that Nina turned out to be a baddie, you'd naturally ask then why would Ira have him do that. The way they explained it later was to say that maybe Ira and Nina were in fact working for basically two different factions of the enemy, and so Ira didn't even know of Nina's existence, that she was ultimately working for the same goal as him.

So, just maybe when the writers played out the idea of Walt Cummings, they didn't know at that time they'd have Logan ultimately being the top evil dog. They don't know exactly how the season will end when they have it started, after all.

-I'm cool

AlpineValley804

04-03-2006, 11:08 PM

Holy shit balls.

taphntm

04-03-2006, 11:09 PM

that was the best ending to any 24 ever ... nowwwwwwwww why would the president be doing this? :ugh

junior94

04-03-2006, 11:09 PM

Apparently the President was just "acting" like a bumbling idiot the entire time....fooled me.

Well and the funny thing with that is, not 30 minutes ago I was going to post about something that had just occurred to me while watching the show, which was, while I certainly wouldn't sympathize and root for a Republican president, it seemed at least that the guy who was in office last season (that was ultimately killed from the plane attack), the Republican who followed Palmer, that he was a reasonably intelligent guy, and so I'm thinking WHY IN THE HELL would he possibly pick a guy as his VP that was so insanely clueless and stupid as Logan? I mean, I realize even in real life there have been VP's chosen for mainly the reason of securing a certain region of the country's voting block (maybe because that's where the VP is from, etc), but c'mon, I'd think that kind of logic can only go so far, when your guy is just THAT retarded... :p

So yea, who knows if Logan really has been smarter than we've all thought all along.

-I'm cool

joepsu0985

04-03-2006, 11:11 PM

watchtower86

04-03-2006, 11:12 PM

Holy shit balls.
That's what I said. I IMed my sister saying "Holy Balls." I actually thought it might be the president, though. The VP was too obvious and he would've had to have been a pretty good actor when dealing with Wayne Palmer. My dad thought it was the First Lady. She was my second thought, but as the episode went on, I started thinking they were gonna drop a bomb and it was gonna be Logan. What an awesome episode, though.

Oh, and how about Jack knifing that guy. Hardcore badass.

watchtower86

04-03-2006, 11:13 PM

This explains why he was trying to put his wife in the nut house. This really doesnt add up. He was willing to give up the Russian President as well as his wife, and he talked to the guy on the phone. So are the people with the gas connected to the Palmer killing? If not it might explain a lot more. Why would the President want Palmer killed? Wow.
Well, didn't he want Palmer killed because his wife had e-mail contact with him? He couldn't outwardly eliminate his wife, but he could eliminate Palmer.

joepsu0985

04-03-2006, 11:13 PM

Well and the funny thing with that is, not 30 minutes ago I was going to post about something that had just occurred to me while watching the show, which was, while I certainly wouldn't sympathize and root for a Republican president, it seemed at least that the guy who was in office last season (that was ultimately killed from the plane attack), the Republican who followed Palmer, that he was a reasonably intelligent guy, and so I'm thinking WHY IN THE HELL would he possibly pick a guy as his VP that was so insanely clueless and stupid as Logan? I mean, I realize even in real life there have been VP's chosen for mainly the reason of securing a certain region of the country's voting block (maybe because that's where the VP is from, etc), but c'mon, I'd think that kind of logic can only go so far, when your guy is just THAT retarded... :p

So yea, who knows if Logan really has been smarter than we've all thought all along.

-I'm cool

Then why the hell is the VP acting so shady? Why was he worried about Palmer's brother being at the compound? I guess he is involved or he is trying to ruin the President. We are missing a big piece of the puzzle here or we are looking into it too much.

joepsu0985

04-03-2006, 11:15 PM

Well, didn't he want Palmer killed because his wife had e-mail contact with him? He couldn't outwardly eliminate his wife, but he could eliminate Palmer.

I dont know. I dont know if it went into it that deep. It seemed as if Cummings wanted Palmer killed becasue he knew about the gas maybe.

But now I wonder if the gas and Palmer being killed are realted.

watchtower86

04-03-2006, 11:16 PM

Then why the hell is the VP acting so shady? Why was he worried about Palmer's brother being at the compound? I guess he is involved or he is trying to ruin the President. We are missing a big piece of the puzzle here or we are looking into it too much.
Was the VP really worried about it or was he genuinely surprised Palmer was there? After that, I'm going with the latter.

joepsu0985

04-03-2006, 11:19 PM

Was the VP really worried about it or was he genuinely surprised Palmer was there? After that, I'm going with the latter.

I dont know but the President didnt seem to worried or he played it off.

So Abraham (is that right) was the guy that tried to blow Jack up?

So the President was connected to him and that guy was connected to the gas, so they all have to be connected.

Did Palmer know about the gas and was trying to stop it.

If you remember he was an advisor to the President last season.

twk13

04-03-2006, 11:20 PM

wow.

next week: Jack Bauer v. the United States Armed Forces

junior94

04-03-2006, 11:22 PM

joepsu0985

04-03-2006, 11:22 PM

wow.

next week: Jack Bauer v. the United States Armed Forces

Yeah if he gets out of this one....I really dont know.

AlpineValley804

04-03-2006, 11:22 PM

wow.

next week: Jack Bauer v. the United States Armed Forces

Sounds like a fair fight.

AlpineValley804

04-03-2006, 11:23 PM

I don't get why Audrey didn't let Bill off the hook and tell him what she told Chloe, why she signed that form. I mean I know she had to play along at first when that Homeland guy was standing right there, that she couldn't say anything, but I thought for sure they'd show her going over to Bill just before he left to tell him in private, it seems like there was a little time to do that.

-I'm cool

I was thinking the exact thing, Kevin. Kind of slipped my mind though with that ending. Hopefully Bill comes back...for once we actually get somebody competent from Division.

watchtower86

04-03-2006, 11:24 PM

I don't get why Audrey didn't let Bill off the hook and tell him what she told Chloe, why she signed that form. I mean I know she had to play along at first when that Homeland guy was standing right there, that she couldn't say anything, but I thought for sure they'd show her going over to Bill just before he left to tell him in private, it seems like there was a little time to do that.

-I'm cool
Yea, but she can't compromise her position and let it been seen that she's talked to Bill. She'll have time to explain after, but this was the only thing she could do at the time. I know what you mean, too, but that's the only reason I can think of for her acting that way.