Official 24 Discussion (Greatest Show Ever)

[tdowe99]

Yeah the luggage scene was either dumb, or very well timed on Jack's part.

[AlpineValley804]

A new thought that spurred into my mind today.

If the plane that Jack holds up is in the air, I'm taking hard odds that Logan will order to shoot it down.

[@drian]

I don't think Heller is dead. Sure there is an air pocket and the man is smart enough to figure out a way to swim out of there.

I hope you are right but I think the impact alone would have killed him.

[bdb23]

Here. We. Go.

[clayj41]

Nice elbow!:lol

[Dougie981641]

That elbow may have been the funniest thing of the season. Everyone I am watching with is cracking up.

[bdb23]

This is too close to the Flight 93 and all the 9/11 crap recently. I'm not liking it.

:shrug

[bdb23]

Nice piece of writing there for Logan when he was talking about Jack. It was more like he was talking about himself... backed in a corner... desperate.

[bdb23]

WOW. Good episode.

[clayj41]

This is too close to the Flight 93 and all the 9/11 crap recently. I'm not liking it.

:shrug

:thumbsup Especially the dumbass who decided he was gonna try an be a hero and charge Jack.

[bdb23]

:thumbsup Especially the dumbass who decided he was gonna try an be a hero and charge Jack.
Yep.

[Mel4AU]

I absolutely love Chloe.

[bdb23]

Well at least that preview didn't do much.

[clayj41]

I absolutely love Chloe.

Her tasering the guy twice was pretty damn funny!:lol

[joepsu0985]

This season is amazing

[Tiduwho]

How many episodes are left?

[bdb23]

Four

[clayj41]

Five.

Didn't that preview just say 4 more hours left?

[tankdan]

Four.

Dan

[bdb23]

Didn't that preview just say 4 more hours left?
Yes. I was thinking this week. Clay that post needs a spoiler. :D

[clayj41]

Yes. I was thinking this week. Clay that post needs a spoiler. :D

Sorry....:lol

[joepsu0985]

Man...Jack hijacking a plane? Logan ordered to shoot it down. How intense is this getting? Logan played the perfect bad guy also. I thought he was a tool in the begining, but man, he is perfect.

[twk13]

this is whats gonna happen:
Jack is gonna open the cockpit window, jump out, start firing his gun, barrel roll in mid-air to avoid one of the F-18's missiles, and then shoot the F-18's down, and then fall into the cockpit again as the plane is on a downward path

[twk13]

oh, and btw, when the stewardess told the passengers that they were going to expect turbulence, that was the understatement of the year, Passengers, please fasten your seatbelts, were are going to experience some Jack Bauer.

[bdfresh62]

oh, and btw, when the stewardess told the passengers that they were going to expect turbulence, that was the understatement of the year, Passengers, please fasten your seatbelts, were are going to experience some Jack Bauer.

:lol

That should be added to the list of "Jack Bauer Facts"

That was one hardcore elbow he laid on the Air Marshall. Also Chloe tasering that guy was sweet.

[joepsu0985]

oh, and btw, when the stewardess told the passengers that they were going to expect turbulence, that was the understatement of the year, Passengers, please fasten your seatbelts, were are going to experience some Jack Bauer.

Yeah he is the only guy that can take out the air marshal, control an entire plane of people, know exaclty where the rudder cables were and somehow avoid being shot out of the air by a fighter jet. This dude owns all good guys on television ever.

[Bartender84]

this is whats gonna happen:
Jack is gonna open the cockpit window, jump out, start firing his gun, barrel roll in mid-air to avoid one of the F-18's missiles, and then shoot the F-18's down, and then fall into the cockpit again as the plane is on a downward path
Actually, the missile will see Jack Bauer in the plane, and out of fear for its life turn around and blow up Logan.

[road_designer]

Congrats on Jack passing one of the post 9/11 airplane citizen checks. They are as follows:



Air Marshall Test - Find the air marshall and take his gun
Cockpit Door Integrity Test - Run full speed and drop kick the cockpit door. If it remains closed it is safe.
Drop A Note - Drop a note in the aisle that says, "there is a bomb on the plane, guess where?" -grade the flight crew on their response.

[AlpineValley804]

Just watched the episode. Yup, I called it.

[DMBfan41]

watched the episode last night. Exciting episode, but they REALLY could have done without Jack pulling the wires and making the plane move.

Im still hoping that something happens to the co-pilot and then Bauer has to fly the plane.

[mr.MikeD]

Just watched the episode. Yup, I called it.
congratulations. i'm going to be an equally shocking call - the sun will rise tomorrow morning.

[hckyplyr0822]

i just wanna know how both logan and the vice president were in on it and didn't know

[bdfresh62]

i just wanna know how both logan and the vice president were in on it and didn't know

Both of them are not "in on it." Logan is the main baddies as we have come to see over the past few weeks. I don't know why you think the VP has anything to do with it, besides him taking over control of CTU. I think he did that, because he has his own personal agenda, and wants to take over as president.

[gr8tkingrat]

Hey all, don't know if this has been mentioned on here yet (apologies if it has) but Kiefer was on British TV just last week, talking about 24 and the plans to make a 24 movie, which is to be filmed in London.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4975762.stm

Exciting stuff! After the 3rd series i thought maybe they should have stopped the show, for fear of graggin it out. But 2 series on and it still is by far the best thing on TV in my opinion, so i am all for more!

[baloneybandit21]

thats really strange that kiefer said that they would be filming in england, does that mean it would all take place there, or they would just film it there but set it somewhere else, any ideas?

[AlpineValley804]

congratulations. i'm going to be an equally shocking call - the sun will rise tomorrow morning.

:lol Eh, I suppose my ego got a bit bloated since no one else in my family even thought of that.

[bdb23]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/08/apontv.badguy.prez.ap/index.html

No spoilers ^

[tankdan]

I hope Jack kills Logan with his bare hands.

Dan

[Tiduwho]

thats really strange that kiefer said that they would be filming in england, does that mean it would all take place there, or they would just film it there but set it somewhere else, any ideas?


Lol, british terrorists would be hilarious. "Oi, ya bloody fuckin Bauer bastad."

[WolfmanDMB]

in honour of todays 24 episode i went to the handgun shooting range and shot a few clips.

[marlin1805]

is tonight a 2 hour episode?

[bdb23]

No..

[bdb23]

Heller survived. WOOHOO!!!

[bdb23]

So they could talk to the guy in the fighter from last season but they couldn't talk to this fighter pilot??? Bullshit.

Bierko's back in play??? Hmmm....

[bdb23]

We haven't seen the first lady yet.

[bdb23]

God I'm so pissed. SO PISSED.

[AlpineValley804]

Fucking Miles.

[junior94]

And this is exactly why I'm actually ashamed of myself by the fact that I still even spend the time to watch this show...

oh gee, Miles, the character who's been so ridiculously over the top evil since his first minute, he goes and warns Logan of the recording at the 11th hour.

Bierko escapes by way of YET ANOTHER low level mole in CTU.

BIG FUCKING *YAAAAAAWN* :rolleyes

[wvumascotdmb]

Ok amazing show! Def. was on the edge of my seat i'm glad that Logan didn't take the puss way out and pull the trigger. Don't worry both him and miles will get theres! DAMN I can't wait until next week!!!

[bdfresh62]

Stupid Miles Papsmearian. I was kind of hoping Logan would pull the trigger. Also nice to see that Heller survived. 2 more weeks left.

[baloneybandit21]

so friggin predictable about miles and that heller is alive that said still a great episode

[taphntm]

:ugh

[AlpineValley804]

Ok amazing show! Def. was on the edge of my seat i'm glad that Logan didn't take the puss way out and pull the trigger. Don't worry both him and miles will get theres! DAMN I can't wait until next week!!!

And I thought my sig was large.

[AlpineValley804]

so friggin predictable about miles and that heller is alive that said still a great episode

Eh...didn't see that one about Miles to tell you the truth. I thought it would be the blondie who walked in on Miles and Hayes, when Hayes was telling Miles about the recording.

[bdfresh62]

:ugh

Not to hijack the thread but,

Dude is that Clay Aiken in your avatar trying to look cool?

[taphntm]

Not to hijack the thread but,

Dude is that Clay Aiken in your avatar trying to look cool?
oh yes, CLAY AIKEN ALL THE WAY!!! *whistles* yeaaa!!





































actually it's thom yorke from radiohead ;) :D :ugh

[bdfresh62]

oh yes, CLAY AIKEN ALL THE WAY!!! *whistles* yeaaa!!
actually it's thom yorke from radiohead ;) :D :ugh

Phew, what a relief.

[taphntm]

I think it would have been a great plot if the president shot his wife and himself. it would have been better than this one :rolleyes

I was on the virge of having a heart attack when he was talking to his wife but at the same time I was thinking........ oh, that would be very dramatic

[DaveismyWeapon]

I have so many issues with tonights episode. Why is it that every audio/video/fingerprint/severed human thumb can be uploaded through any McGuyver-like contraption Jack has on him, but this audio file never gets consideration. And, Jack just busted his ass (to say the least) to get this audio file back yet when he gets to CTU he just hands it off like it's no biggie. Umm. . . this is evidence that proves the president is guilty of treason, murder, conspiracy, etc. I know Chloe is a badass, but come on. But the episode was good and I know the writers are just stretchin it to fill the season but it just erks me sometimes . . . :twenty4

[Bartndrpleez]

Yeah, I've been a loyal fan of 24 since the first minute of the first season, but tonight I think they may have jumped the shark. That plane landing was not only improbable but totally impossible!

He stopped a giant jetliner going probably 300-400 mph in less than 4,000 feet all while just stopping before an overpass?? That kinda irked me. And the Heller thing just seemed to convenient, even though from the get go I had a feeling he would survive, I just didn't think they would write that in.

And yeah, how convenient for the President to get a temporary stay of execustion from dickless Miles just as he's about to blow his stupid brains out. I don't know, I hope this season turns out for the best, because they've really gone way over the top already with so many people in on this plot, especially head honcho Logan the brains of it all.

[tankdan]

Yeh, I think Jack should have said to Chloe, "Chloe, I want you to make two hundred copies of this recording and hide them throughout CTU."

Cmon, the FIRST thing they should have done was make copies... DUH!!!

Also, Jack definitely should have accompanied Chloe for those TEN minutes before the video conference. Cmon, 21 hours awake and he can't see it through for another ten minutes without going to see that ugly skinny woman?

Oh well. I have faith that no more good people will die and all the bad people will get killed and/or put on trial for treason. Personally, no matter how much I would like to see Jack wring Logan's neck, I think Jack respects the office too much and would want a proper trial.

Dan

[tankdan]

Nothing big in this brief article, just Kiefer's thoughts on the future of the show:

http://www.hollywood.com/news/detail/id/3499452

Dan

[killymagee2000]

Other then the predictability of Miles being a two-timing douchebag, I thought last night's episode was pretty good. They threw some serious budget behind the airplane landing scene.

[DaveismyWeapon]

Nothing big in this brief article, just Kiefer's thoughts on the future of the show:

http://www.hollywood.com/news/detail/id/3499452

Dan
http://www.hollywood.com/news/detail/id/3490041
This was kinda funny also. Keifer talks about getting trashed and his heavy drinking.

[DaveismyWeapon]

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/glenn.beck/

Here's an interview with the actor that plays President Logan. No spoilers so watch away.

[tankdan]

Towards the end of the season, I always get antsy about next season and apathetic about the ending of the current season, sooooooo...

Will Jack ever again work at CTU? Seems like S1 was really the only time he legitimately worked there and got a paycheck.

Will "24" ever take place in a city other than LA?

Will Curtis ever take on a larger role?


Oh, and as far as this season:

Will Teo make a reappearance?

Will CTU be reborn from its demolition by Homeland? If so, will Buchanan come back?

Dan

[Footestompgp1]

i hate miles still. thats what i got out of that episode

[bdb23]

Just an FYI...

http://static.flickr.com/10/13096795_9526010f49.jpg

[tankdan]

^^^ Why today?

Dan

[bdb23]

I have no idea. I just saw that pic up on Google a while back.

[emjohn]

Am I the only one wondering WTF was up with bringing Kim back for a 3-ep pointless arc? I'm still scratching my head. At least kill her like all the other quickie drop ins (Tony, Michelle, Palmer, etc).

Evan

[watchtower86]

President Logan was just on an old episode of NYPD Blue on TNT. I thought it was pretty funny. He had a clinical sex addiction. He's much better on 24.

[baloneybandit21]

thats funny cuz he prolly doesnt get any at all on 24, what with always sending his wife to the crazy house

[Bron Yr Aur]

Am I the only one wondering WTF was up with bringing Kim back for a 3-ep pointless arc? I'm still scratching my head. At least kill her like all the other quickie drop ins (Tony, Michelle, Palmer, etc).

Evan
You aren't the only one....this season has done a shitty job of mentioning and bringing the classic characters into play. They bring back Kim for no reason (she BETTER show up in the last three episodes--there has to be closure at least on this issue), they haven't even mentioned Tony or Michelle...it's just weak. Plus, the show has taken way too many liberties with reality this season. I mean, there are still great parts to a lot of these episodes, but it's just becoming much more mainstream...ie, lack of boxes/interesting camera angles, more explosions/plane crash, etc...it's still better than any other show, however, it's a far cry from seasons 1, 2, or 3. One of the biggest things this season has lacked, however, is the "sappy moments" as my family jokingly calls them. The quiet moments of interaction between characters, especially those involving Jack. They just haven't been there for the majority of the season. These moments were mainstays of S1, 2, and 3, and are the reason we loved and hated characters like Tony, Michelle, Kim, Nina, Mason, Chase, and Chappelle...these are gone, and the characters just aren't as important, and what happens to them just doesn't hit home as much. I honestly don't care what happens to Audrey or Edgar or Bill or whoever, because I just don't care about their characters enough.

This week was bad at the start, pretty good at the end, in my opinion. I mean, the plane crash scene was very well done, however, it was completely unreasonable. What was worse was that Heller survived driving off the edge of the cliff...that was way too predictable and unbelievable. The fact that Miles turned bad (well, he was already bad) was also extremely weak and predictable, though, I wasn't bothered by this so much. His character is way too over-the-top evil, but the fact that he's bad is a pretty good "twist." I thought we would escape moles in CTU this season, but I guess it has to be...ah well, Bierko is a good character, and hopefully he should change up the last few episodes.

The middle-end of this episode was pretty good...Logan's dilemma about killing himself...the fact that he was about to do it, and was just saved by the call from Miles at the end. Surprisingly good cinematography during this part...a nice dark side to the episode.

I just hope the writers and directors re-evaluate their approach and get back to basics: Get rid of the over-the-top events, get back to establishing character in the characters, make the events more personal and relatable. The problem is everyone on the 24 boards laps up everything the writers and producers do, so it's doubtful anything will change, though.

[Tiduwho]

Man, why did Weasel have to call up Nixon? He was about to Hitler it up!

[mr.MikeD]

that was a great episode with a terrible ending. it was terribly predictable and really stupid. The not making copies etc has been mentioned enough already, but it was just dumb. and what did miles do, shine a light on the recording to break it?

the real problem i have with this season isn't the story itself, there's only so many variations of "who's the bad guy-catch the terrorist" that they can do, and after 5 seasons, it's hard to be fresh, but that's not really the problem.

My problem is that I just don't care about any of the characters and what happens to them, most characters are weakly developed and have no substance. In previous seasons the characters really drove the show, even the unlikeable ones. I hated Sherry Palmer, but liked what she added to the show. I enjoyed hating her. This season, that just seems to be missing. The characters are flat, and boring.

[DaveismyWeapon]

They bring back Kim for no reason (she BETTER show up in the last three episodes--there has to be closure at least on this issue), they haven't even mentioned Tony or Michelle...it's just weak.

Ummm . . . they did mention Michelle and Tony until they were killed off. They're not going to keep bringing them up b/c they aren't relevant to the story anymore. Also, Kim will be back for the final episodes. It was eluded to at the end of the last episode or maybe in the previews for next weeks. It was something about the guys controlling the president being able "to get to whoever they want".

[Bron Yr Aur]

They bring back Kim for no reason (she BETTER show up in the last three episodes--there has to be closure at least on this issue), they haven't even mentioned Tony or Michelle...it's just weak.

Ummm . . . they did mention Michelle and Tony until they were killed off. They're not going to keep bringing them up b/c they aren't relevant to the story anymore. Also, Kim will be back for the final episodes. It was eluded to at the end of the last episode or maybe in the previews for next weeks. It was something about the guys controlling the president being able "to get to whoever they want".

That doesn't mean Kim is the one to return. I hope it does....she needs to be involved somehow. And yes, it would be nice to see the lack of Michelle or Tony's presence eluded to somehow...these characters were very close to Jack in previous seasons, and now it's just as if they never existed, and Jack seems to feel no pain for their deaths...it's a little weak and unbelievable that he wouldn't be affected, if you ask me.

[BustedJeff]

I'm sorry, but the past few episodes of 24 have been really bad. It seems like the writers are making stuff up just minutes before they film. Everything is way sloppy and very roughly pieced together. I thought the season started out pretty good, but it's really going out with a whimper.

Something damn interesting better happen soon.

[DaveismyWeapon]

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5120/1143/1600/2490Kiefer-2110060510121014.jpg

Kiefer on another bender. :lol :monkey :twenty4

[baloneybandit21]

jesumio, hes friggin crazy

[Trippin4136]

what a ridiculous life kiefer leads...

but back to the show...I think Henderson has Kim stashed somewhere....that's probably been mentioned somewhere else in this thread...but thats my assumption.

[bdfresh62]

what a ridiculous life kiefer leads...

but back to the show...I think Henderson has Kim stashed somewhere....that's probably been mentioned somewhere else in this thread...but thats my assumption.

Yeah that goatee Kim's boytoy Barry was sporting, was pure evil. They have her somewhere.

[Tiduwho]

Wtf was that trailer? Wtf? Another attack from Bierko? WHAT THE SPOILER FOX? I recognized nothing from that trailer just now.

[bdb23]

Fuck you Logan. Fuck you Miles.

[bdb23]

Charles. :lol

[bdb23]

I guess Henderson doesn't know about the "word" Jack gave to that German (?) spy.

[bdb23]

How hard would it have been for Henderson to tell Jack what his plan was???

[NPC271]

Jack Bauer for President

got to finish saving the world first!

[NPC271]

wow did not see that target coming

[bdb23]

Nope. Damn.

[NPC271]

can;t wait fr that final episode

[wvumascotdmb]

wow next week whoa!!! Jack vs Logan finally!!!

[Mel4AU]

I was preparing myself to cry. Thank God Pierce wasn't killed.

[Mel4AU]

"Was that all, Charles?" I freaking LOVE him. GAH.

[Trippin4136]

wow....that preview for next week was unreal....jesus.

So sad seeing them at the airbase as Palmer's body is getting loaded onto a plane. Remember his body was scheduled to leave at 7 am.

I gotta say though, am I missing something, but where is Wayne Palmer. Wasn't it like 8 hours that he went to Buchanon's house? Where has he gone?

[AlpineValley804]

Aaron Pierce is a fucking bad ass. That's all I got to say.

"Is that clear...Charles?"

My whole family went "ooooooh!"

[Trippin4136]

"Is that clear...Charles?"


Was that all :cool

[bdfresh62]

Yeah Pierce is the man. Totally didn't see the submarine as the target either.

[Mel4AU]

My whole family went "ooooooh!"

:lol My girlfriend clapped.

[AlpineValley804]

Was that all :cool

Wasn't sure which one to go with. I was going with my sister's quotation.

[watchtower86]

How hard would it have been for Henderson to tell Jack what his plan was???
I agree with the last three things you said, with Charles, Jack's word, and Henderson just not telling him the plan.

[hotniks160]

where can i donwload this episode i missed it im dyin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BustedJeff]

This season sucks. It seems every episode I see, I roll my eyes and sigh more and more. Phoenix shield??? Come on.

[bdfresh62]

CTU should get the Phoenix Shield. God knows how many times there system has been hacked. They should also get rid of that back computer room too. You know the one that every mole uses.

[baloneybandit21]

CTU should get the Phoenix Shield. God knows how many times there system has been hacked. They should also get rid of that back computer room too. You know the one that every mole uses.

:lol guess they havent thought of that one yet somehow

[tankdan]

I hate to say it, but I'm finding it harder to be pulled in by the show...

It's predictable.
The moles, traitors, or villains who are caputed by CTU, somehow get a deal, give the info that eventually doesn't even work out.
Jack gets something important (person, evidence) and everyone ignores him or someone screws him over.
Something crappy happens with the CTU boss.
The main villain is captured but gets sprung.

I could go on...

I'd have to say that the thing tonight with Martha and Pierce was THE freshest part about the show. Pierce rocks.

The roller coaster of the show is only good in the first half of the season, when there's still alot of mystery and potential. Now, however, I know to not get too worried about anything that happens, because Jack will kick ass in the end.

Just once, I'd like for something to go right. I want President Logan to be brought to full, public justice. I want Aaron and Martha to run off together. I want there to be a stone tablet at CTU that says "No matter what you think... always trust Jack Bauer."

Geez, doesn't ANYONE ever learn?

Dan

[watchtower86]

CTU should get the Phoenix Shield. God knows how many times there system has been hacked. They should also get rid of that back computer room too. You know the one that every mole uses.
Probably the most laughable part of the entire season was when Chloe spouted out in her whiny voice, "NOT A PHOENIX SHIELD." My entire family and I burst out laughing.

[DaveismyWeapon]

Am I missing something? Did they really need the extra gas canister to take the sub. It seemed kind of funny to me that they dropped it in and wasted it. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought they were going to arm the missles with gas. Did I miss something?

[Bron Yr Aur]

Well, my weekly comments on the show...

Last night was, finally, a truly GOOD episode. Not amazing, not classic, but it definitely felt much more like an episode from the first three seasons than any of the last few episodes. So many of the episodes from the last 3-6 weeks have been too action-heavy, with not enough character development. The reason characters such as Michelle, Tony, Jack, David, Nina, Mason, etc, were so important to the audience is because of the so-called "sappy" scenes between them. I just don't feel the same way about Chloe, Bill, Audrey, or even Jack during this season. We really need a Kim appearance at the end of this season, or at least some more character-oriented scenes with Jack and Audrey. There just haven't been enough of those scenes that show all of the sides of the characters and make them seem more real and human.

Anyway, this week had a bit more of that, and the show benefitted. The scene with Martha and Aaron was excellent, with Martha continuing to walk toward the agent who was sent to kill Aaron. The interactions between Martha and Pierce were quite touching, and were very reminiscent of such scenes in season one or two. The scene between Logan and Pierce was also VERY good. The acting in that scene, particularly Itzin's, was excellent.

There was also some noticeably improved cinematography last night. The Jack and Henderson scene in the holding room, in particular, was very good. What happened to the boxes before the end, though...maybe I just forgot...but I didn't catch an initial ending with about 2 minutes of show left, then the boxes appearing, then the final ending. Didn't catch that initial ending with the boxes. Or it could've been after Bierko shot the submarine captain...can't remember.

The biggest problems with last night were mainly the plot holes that have been established in previous episodes. The fact that we haven't seen Wayne in 8 episodes, and that Kim appeared for about 3 episodes, and hasn't been seen again, it's just weak. Plus, the fact that Bierko's men can just go inside the sub with masks on, when nerve gas can penetrate the skin, as well. However, the saved canister was a good little twist, as it was actually plausible. I quite enjoyed the fact that CTU had to use Henderson, because that means we may see more of him in the future, and adds a very S2/3-ish characters-at-odds theme with Jack. Overall, though, this was a very solid episode, and truly felt like one of the classics from one of the first three seasons. Definitely not really up to that level--this season has too many plot holes--but this episode had a great balance of character development and interactions, twists, as well as some action.

The season, overall, has been pretty good, despite the numerous plot holes lately, and the fact that the previous 3-5 episodes have been seemingly made up as they've gone along (though last night's episode tied up some loose ends and seemed to be a very logical start to the finale). The last 10-12 or so episodes, however, despite the problems, have each had some great scenes, and a lot of the episodes have been very good despite the numerous problems. I think if the writers would just tone it down a bit and take on a bit smaller and conceivable plotline, one that isn't so filled with conspiracy, the show would be better off and would feel much more like the great episodes from S1-3.

[baloneybandit21]

Am I missing something? Did they really need the extra gas canister to take the sub. It seemed kind of funny to me that they dropped it in and wasted it. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought they were going to arm the missles with gas. Did I miss something?

it wouldnt have done enough damage for what bierko wanted to do, with the missile on the sub he has a lot more firepower

[yankees51]

I guess there's only one Phoenix Shield in the world, huh. :lol

[Cduby15@aol.com]

I got an interesting idea, at least I think:

In Jack's world, what do you think tomorrow's NY Times front page would look like?

A terrorist attack at an airport, the president's chief of staff commits suicide, a nerve gas attack at a mall, an entire natural gas facility explodes, the Russian president's motorcade is attacked with the First Lady inside, a highjacked diplomatic flight, a First Lady shoots a Secret Service agent, the president signs a peace treaty with Russia, the country's most secure facility is the subject of a nerve gas attack and other stuff.

How would all that fit on the front page?

CHRIS

[DaveismyWeapon]

Keifer is on Charlie Rose (pbs) tonight. He's talking Jack Bauer's death, the future of the series, and the movie. :twenty4

[GSUdawg521]

::Still not reading this thread!!!::


Finished Season 4 a couple of weeks ago. I was hoping I'd be able to catch up for the season finale monday, but I'm only on roughly episode 8 (I'd seen through 9 or 10 back when they were originally aired, but stopped watching at that point to go back to Season 1, so I'm watching this season again). So it doesn't look like I'll make it :shrug

But I'll be back on track with everyone for season 6 and/or the movie!

Enjoy it everyone

[Fishbulb290]

I just caught up. I download them and just watched all 22 in the past day or so because commercials and having to wait a week for this show drives me nuts.

So far I think this season was really good. Besides a few unanswered questions and the previously mentioned plot holes. Can't wait for monday.

[GSUdawg521]

I just caught up. I download them and just watched all 22 in the past day or so because commercials and having to wait a week for this show drives me nuts.

So far I think this season was really good. Besides a few unanswered questions and the previously mentioned plot holes. Can't wait for monday.

Unfortunately, I don't think I have the time nor adequate bandwidth to catch up completely in the next two days :lol

[Fishbulb290]

Unfortunately, I don't think I have the time nor adequate bandwidth to catch up completely in the next two days :lol

I download them as soon as they come out and then just hold on to them until I have all the episodes.

It's hard to avoid spoilers when you wait.:mad

[GSUdawg521]

I download them as soon as they come out and then just hold on to them until I have all the episodes.

It's hard to avoid spoilers when you wait.:mad

No kidding, in the past month or two, I've dealt with spoilers in here (I could've avoided), spoilers when I was misdirected to a site with them on the front page, commercials about 'next week's episode' where I've covered my ears and looked away, and what'shisname's avatar on here with "RIP Edgar"

:violent :lol

[UNC41]

No kidding, in the past month or two, I've dealt with spoilers in here (I could've avoided), spoilers when I was misdirected to a site with them on the front page, commercials about 'next week's episode' where I've covered my ears and looked away, and what'shisname's avatar on here with "RIP Edgar"

:violent :lol

He died. :rolleyes

[GSUdawg521]

He died. :rolleyes

Umm... yeah?

[GSUdawg521]

Just finished that episode where he died :lorraine

[Fishbulb290]

Wolfmandmb I believe. I found out that way too...

I found out another death by way of Jay Leno.

[GSUdawg521]

Wolfmandmb I believe. I found out that way too...

I found out another death by way of Jay Leno.

Ah well, it kinda sucks, but just finding out doesn't compare to actually seeing the event. It's kind of like a method of suspense: you can show some guys at a table eating and talking and suddenly there's an explosion and everything blows up, or you can show the same guys at a table then pan down to a bomb ticking away underneath it. Heh, sorry that was some analogy a lit prof. used last semester.

But that was a damn sad ending. That and in season 2 when Jack was (planning on) flying the nuclear bomb out to the desert and he was saying goodbye for like 2-3 minutes with Kim were some of the saddest parts of the show IMO. In that one, I was :lorraine

:o

[Bron Yr Aur]

Ah well, it kinda sucks, but just finding out doesn't compare to actually seeing the event. It's kind of like a method of suspense: you can show some guys at a table eating and talking and suddenly there's an explosion and everything blows up, or you can show the same guys at a table then pan down to a bomb ticking away underneath it. Heh, sorry that was some analogy a lit prof. used last semester.

But that was a damn sad ending. That and in season 2 when Jack was (planning on) flying the nuclear bomb out to the desert and he was saying goodbye for like 2-3 minutes with Kim were some of the saddest parts of the show IMO. In that one, I was :lorraine

:o

Yeah, it sucks to learn about character deaths before seeing the episodes...I found out about numerous a character death from reading around on different boards...

**S1,2, 3 Spoilers below**





I definitely think the saddest moments on the show were, obviously, Jack finding Teri dead in S1, Jack on the plane talking to Kim and Jack and Mason on the plane in S2, Mason leaving CTU in S2, and Jack killing Chappelle in S3





**end spoilers**....forgot how to do the spoiler bar...

[Footestompgp1]

i forget, how many episodes left?

[NPC271]

isn't tomorrow the last night,with a two hour special?

[Fishbulb290]

Ya 2 episode/2 hour finale tomorrow night.

:thumbsup I'm excited.

[Footestompgp1]

thats awesome......................i am assuming it starts at 9 and ends at 11? not a 8-10 thing, right?

[Fishbulb290]

7-9 MST.

So figure that out for where you live.

[bdfresh62]

thats awesome......................i am assuming it starts at 9 and ends at 11? not a 8-10 thing, right?

No it starts at 8.

[UglyNakedGuy]

This season sucks. It seems every episode I see, I roll my eyes and sigh more and more. Phoenix shield??? Come on.

Nope.

[Fishbulb290]

I've loved this season so far. The phoenix sheild thing was a little cheesy when Chloe was just in awe of it (phoenix sheild!?!?!?!?!).

But overall great season.

[bdfresh62]

A little more than an hour and a half to go. I can't wait.

[Bartndrpleez]

Yeah, I'm definitely pumped for another nail biting season finale from Jack Bauer and Company. Hard to believe I've been watching this show for FIVE years now and I'm still not sick of it.

If there were ever a nerd to say he was proud he watched a show from beginning to end, it would be me, and my two biggest accomplishments would be The X-Files and 24. :lol

[Franchize41]

Yeah, I'm definitely pumped for another nail biting season finale from Jack Bauer and Company. Hard to believe I've been watching this show for FIVE years now and I'm still not sick of it.


same here, I didnt think it would last 5 years in the early stages...

[NPC271]

I'm glad it has lasted five years

got hooked last season..watched season 1 and 2 from a buddies dvds. got to buy season three though myself

Nick

[364041Scott]

Yeah, I'm definitely pumped for another nail biting season finale from Jack Bauer and Company. Hard to believe I've been watching this show for FIVE years now and I'm still not sick of it.



:thumbsup

If there were ever a nerd to say he was proud he watched a show from beginning to end, it would be me, and my two biggest accomplishments would be The X-Files and 24. :lol

How many seasons did the X-Files run? I kinda got bored with it towards the last couple of years.

[Bartndrpleez]

same here, I didnt think it would last 5 years in the early stages...

Yeah, I remember before even watching the show reading about its premise and the way they were going to present as 24 one-hour blocks in one 24 hour day. I thought it was something that could only be done once that first season and didn't even expect a 2nd season. But man, was I wrong and am I glad I was!

[Bartndrpleez]

How many seasons did the X-Files run? I kinda got bored with it towards the last couple of years.

X-Files ended up running 9 seasons. But yeah, the last few were kind of meh once Mulder left. But I still loved seeing T-1000 come in there and kick some ass! :lol

The first 6 seasons could not be beat! They kept getting better and better and better! Let's hope the same fate is in store for 24, and maybe they'll know when to cut loose instead of going 1 or 2 seasons past their prime!

[Trippin4136]

is 24 about to really end another season tonight? Man I feel like the last 5 years of my life can be measured again seasons of 24 as lame as that sounds.

[joepsu0985]

Now that is the real Jack Bauer right there. This is going to be a great episode.

[bdb23]

:lol Ala Nina, bitch.

[Tiduwho]

What's up now bitch?

Jack should've said "That's how it's done kid."

[joepsu0985]

Hes goin after Logan..holy shit.

[joepsu0985]

I guess this place was down.

[Franchize41]

did anyone expect Chloe to have an ex-husband?

[UNC41]

Fucking awesome. Just stare baby!

[Tiduwho]

How could Chloe have been married to such a scuzbag? She's way too hot for him. Where was he anyways? Just sitting in a backroom waiting to be called on? I was really confused there. Talk about "convenient".

[joepsu0985]

This is blowing last seasons ending out of the water.

[bdb23]

Damn this is some good shit.

[joepsu0985]

How could Chloe have been married to such a scuzbag? She's way too hot for him. Where was he anyways? Just sitting in a backroom waiting to be called on? I was really confused there. Talk about "convenient".

He's a women's shoe salesman. I highly doubt he was doing anything important.

[Bartndrpleez]

He's a women's shoe salesman. I highly doubt he was doing anything important.

:lol:lol:lol

Outside of the Phoenix Shield reference and that plane landing, this season has been nothing short of spectacular. Sucks after tonight we have to wait EIGHT FREAKING MONTHS UNTIL THE NEXT SEASON!

Go get 'em Jack! Logan's GOING DOOOOOWN!!!

[joepsu0985]

:lol:lol:lol

Outside of the Phoenix Shield reference and that plane landing, this season has been nothing short of spectacular. Sucks after tonight we have to wait EIGHT FREAKING MONTHS UNTIL THE NEXT SEASON!

Go get 'em Jack! Logan's GOING DOOOOOWN!!!

I thought they were doing the movie before the next season?

[joepsu0985]

What the Fuck!

[bdb23]

God I hate Logan so fucking much.

:violent

[Franchize41]

there was no way Jack could pull the trigger... as much as he wanted to he just cant. I was all excited too when Jack wasnt speaking, just staring a hole through him

[UNC41]

So, as Jack is talking about how what Palmer, Tony and Michelle meant to him, we were interrupted to her about a kidnapped girl. Now, I pray this girl is found and all right, but absolutely terrible timing. Terrible.

[joepsu0985]

What the hell is going to happen to Jack? Well the last half hour of this season is going to either suck or be the most amazing ever.

[bdb23]

Expect the Chinese is my prediction. Not really shocking, but that's all I got.

[bdb23]

Was Martha up to something???


God damn that was pretty intense.

[joepsu0985]

Expect the Chinese is my prediction. Not really shocking, but that's all I got.

Yeah that would just be amazing. Maybe Martha was miked.

[Dave G]

I'm thinking that Jack planted a listening device on the president and they just recorded that little thing with his wife

[joepsu0985]

I'm thinking that Jack planted a listening device on the president and they just recorded that little thing with his wife

Oh wow..That would be amazing. But when would it have happened?

[bdb23]

At any point when he was leading him into that building. That would be great.

[joepsu0985]

At any point when he was leading him into that building. That would be great.

Yeah..Hopefully the ending is a little better than them just shooting a missile out of the air. aka. last season.

[Tiduwho]

Come on Mrs. Logan, play your tape. Take the mic, and play the tape!

[Dave G]

Oh wow..That would be amazing. But when would it have happened?

I think he switched pens with the President when he took his stuff

[Tiduwho]

I knew it!!!

[UNC41]

I'm thinking that Jack planted a listening device on the president and they just recorded that little thing with his wife

BAM!

[bdb23]

Fucking great call.

[UNC41]

I knew it!!!

Umm ... you were off.

[bdb23]

Amazing. But there are still 14 or so minutes.

[Tiduwho]

....I dont like this call from kim thing for some reason.

[bdb23]

Me neither.

[bdb23]

I knew it. God dammit.

[Tiduwho]

Why the F would it be on a landline inside a building. You IDIOT Jack. You stupid IDIOT.

[joepsu0985]

Wow. we are going to have to wait 8 months to find out what happens to Jack again. I knew that call was bad news and the dude that told him was kind of asian.

[kmano8]

i KNEW it! efffffffffffff!

[Franchize41]

Why the F would it be on a landline inside a building. You IDIOT Jack. You stupid IDIOT.

I knew it once the guy who talked to him was asian... and seriously... a landline? :BANG

[Dave G]

How the hell are they going to wrap this thing up in 15 minutes?

[bdb23]

Asian eyes through the ski masks.

[hckyplyr0822]

that sucks...do you think we'll have to wait until next season to see what happens to jack?

[joepsu0985]

Lol...I knew from when I saw the guy tell him
I fell backwards on my chair.

The music was amazing right there by the way.

[bdb23]

That certainly was a swing of emotions there. High to low. Just like that.

[joepsu0985]

that sucks...do you think we'll have to wait until next season to see what happens to jack?

For the big part.

Jack takes down the Prez on Day 5. Day 6 with no sleep will be the Chinese.

[joepsu0985]

way to pay tribute to Edgar.

[joepsu0985]

they have kim

[bdb23]

Fucking A. On a boat.

[Tiduwho]

Fuckin Chinese

[hckyplyr0822]

now that ending just pissed me off...

[joepsu0985]

What an ending.

[UNC41]

now that ending just pissed me off...

That was a great ending.

[Tiduwho]

I liked last season's ending a lot better...


:lorraine

[firedwarftj]

what a fucking season ...

[bdb23]

Amazing season. Amazing.

[Dave G]

These guys have no idea what they are getting themselves into :twenty4

[joepsu0985]

I liked last season's ending a lot better...


:lorraine

Nah. Last years gave a lot of info. We just know Jack is on his way to China now pleading for death.

[joepsu0985]

Amazing season. Amazing.
Agreed.

[UNC41]

Nah. Last years gave a lot of info. We just know Jack is on his way to China now pleading for death.

:thumbsup

[boobookittyfuk]

LAME. LAME. LAME. LAME. They wait all the way until the very last second to bring back the Chinese (which should've been WAY before) and they now use it merely as a device to make the ending all surprising and supsenseful. YAWN. :rolleyes God the so often lazy writing on this show is migraine-inducing. I don't know why I keep subjecting myself to it.

Well, they did say earlier that the finale had the "shocker of the season". Admittedly when they said Kim was on the phone, I'd thought at first she'd be calling from wheever she'd been kidnapped.
And of cousre the news less than 2 months ago that Kiefer re-upped another 3 seasons doesn't exactly hold any suspense that he'll die from this newest predicament.

[joepsu0985]

LAME. LAME. LAME. LAME. They want all the way until the very last second to bring back the Chinese (which should've been WAY before) and they now use it merely as a device to make the ending all surprising and supsenseful. YAWN. :rolleyes God the so often lazy writing on this show is migraine-inducing. I don't know why I keep subjecting myself to it.

Well, they did say earlier that the finale had the "shocker of the season". Admittedly when they said Kim was on the phone, I'd thought at first she'd be calling from wheever she'd been kidnapped.
And of cousre the news less than 2 months ago that Kiefer re-upped another 3 seasons doesn't exactly hold any suspense that he'll die from this newest predicament.

I disagree. We knew the chinese had to come back sooner or later and now they are going to build a whole season's plot out of it.

did they say New Year's day for the first season?

[Tiduwho]

I mean come on, what are they so pissed off about? Didn't the Chinese all think the Consulate guy was an annoying pansy anyways? Stupid friendly fire. Take the hit and move on, you've got a country to run.

[yankees51]

Next season: Jack dies in the first ten minutes, Morris O'Brien is the new lead actor.

You heard it here first.

[joepsu0985]

Next season: Jack dies in the first ten minutes, Morris O'Brien is the new lead actor.

You heard it here first.

Keifer has like 4 more years left on his contract and a movie deal

[NPC271]

when is the movie coming out? aren;t they making a movie?

[taphntm]

:ugh :ugh :ugh :ugh

[Franchize41]

what the hell am I gonna do next monday night?

[AlpineValley804]

Best season since #2. Fox really ripped us on the so-called preview for next season though.

[joepsu0985]

Yeah. There is a USA today article in this thread somewhere I believe talking about the movie and the contract extension.

[joepsu0985]

Best season since #2. Fox really ripped us on the so-called preview for next season though.

Yeah they want more viewers next season.

[AlpineValley804]

what the hell am I gonna do next monday night?

Good question.

[somedevil22]

Keifer has like 4 more years left on his contract and a movie dealI dont understand how a movie would work. Anyone know what the idea is behind this.

[jharap]

That ending hurt my eyes to watch. Jack Bauer being subjected to Chinese torture. :lorraine

[Tak_a_Tak]

I knew it once the guy who talked to him was asian... and seriously... a landline? :BANG

Plus he said "I'll be right back"

I knew he was a gooner as soon as he said it.

[firedwarftj]

That ending hurt my eyes to watch. Jack Bauer being subjected to Chinese torture. :lorraine

and thats the last images we will see for 7 months ...

[Tak_a_Tak]

Fox really ripped us on the so-called preview for next season though.
:thumbsup

That was total b.s.

[jharap]

and thats the last images we will see for 7 months ...

I think next season is going to start after he's been tortured for some time. They can't make it the very next day right?

[joepsu0985]

and thats the last images we will see for 7 months ...

Ahh...I can hear him saying Bawer:lorraine

[killymagee2000]

Dammit! I can't believe we have to wait until January, 2007.

Fuck. That. Shit.

:twenty4

[bdfresh62]

Wow. Just wow is all I can say. This season was amazing.

First off that neck break on Bierko....HARDCORE!

Jack giving Henderson a gun with no bullets, and pumping him 2 shots in him was awesome.

I didn't know what to expect when Logan and Jack were in that building. What if he caved? I was thinking that Jack wasn't going to be able to kill Logan.

The pen mic plant was great. Martha knew all along. That smile that she and Mike shot over to Logan as he was being taken away was priceless.

I knew the Kim phonecall was a fake. I think everyone saw that. Jack being taken away by the Chinese was a great way to end the episode. I know everyone is up in arms about the Chinese not showing up until the final second. But seriously think about it. The whole season takes place in 1 day. I mean the Chinese weren't going to show up in the first half of the season, because it would take that much time for them to find out Jack was still alive. I wonder if Logan contacted them, when he was talking to the bluetooth guys. He told them "He was taking care of Bauer."

Anyways another great season. Can't wait until Season 6.

[Trippin4136]

I've been watching 24 since the very first airing of the first episode and that last hour left in my total shock. I loved it...the whole set up of Logan, the bogus interrogation, and then Martha getting him to confess. AMAZING. AMAZING. AMAZING. Now we're going to have a S6 where Jack is going to breaking out of a Chinese prison camp? That has the potential to be absolutely out of control!

You all can hate the end of the season all to want, to this rabid 24 fan it was amazing.

[joepsu0985]

I've been watching 24 since the very first airing of the first episode and that last hour left in my total shock. I loved it...the whole set up of Logan, the bogus interrogation, and then Martha getting him to confess. AMAZING. AMAZING. AMAZING. Now we're going to have a S6 where Jack is going to breaking out of a Chinese prison camp? That has the potential to be absolutely out of control!

You all can hate the end of the season all to want, to this rabid 24 fan it was amazing.

You hit the spot with that. This is why Ive loved the show since Day 1. Did it also say that the first episode will be on New Years day? I might be going crazy.

[Bartndrpleez]

Wow. Just wow is all I can say. This season was amazing.

First off that neck break on Bierko....HARDCORE!

Jack giving Henderson a gun with no bullets, and pumping him 2 shots in him was awesome.

I didn't know what to expect when Logan and Jack were in that building. What if he caved? I was thinking that Jack wasn't going to be able to kill Logan.

The pen mic plant was great. Martha knew all along. That smile that she and Mike shot over to Logan as he was being taken away was priceless.

I knew the Kim phonecall was a fake. I think everyone saw that. Jack being taken away by the Chinese was a great way to end the episode. I know everyone is up in arms about the Chinese not showing up until the final second. But seriously think about it. The whole season takes place in 1 day. I mean the Chinese weren't going to show up in the first half of the season, because it would take that much time for them to find out Jack was still alive. I wonder if Logan contacted them, when he was talking to the bluetooth guys. He told them "He was taking care of Bauer."

Anyways another great season. Can't wait until Season 6.

Exactly what I was thinking, however, someone within CTU or the government or whatever agents were on the case had to tip them off about where Jack was going to be. Because how would he be approached so swiftly and taken away so fast!?

Knowing he is alive is one thing, but knowing exactly where he was going to be even though Jack didn't know up until about 20 minutes left in the episode seems a little off to me.

Overall though, I'm definitely looking forward to next season, even though its a mind-boggling EIGHT months away! Bah! The preview thing at the end was WAAAAY better last year: YOU DON'T KNOW JACK! That had me pumped!!!

[UNC41]

Exactly what I was thinking, however, someone within CTU or the government or whatever agents were on the case had to tip them off about where Jack was going to be. Because how would he be approached so swiftly and taken away so fast!?

Knowing he is alive is one thing, but knowing exactly where he was going to be even though Jack didn't know up until about 20 minutes left in the episode seems a little off to me.

Overall though, I'm definitely looking forward to next season, even though its a mind-boggling EIGHT months away! Bah! The preview thing at the end was WAAAAY better last year: YOU DON'T KNOW JACK! That had me pumped!!!

SEVEN :rolleyes

[joepsu0985]

Exactly what I was thinking, however, someone within CTU or the government or whatever agents were on the case had to tip them off about where Jack was going to be. Because how would he be approached so swiftly and taken away so fast!?

Knowing he is alive is one thing, but knowing exactly where he was going to be even though Jack didn't know up until about 20 minutes left in the episode seems a little off to me.

Overall though, I'm definitely looking forward to next season, even though its a mind-boggling EIGHT months away! Bah! The preview thing at the end was WAAAAY better last year: YOU DON'T KNOW JACK! That had me pumped!!!

Bauer will take down all of China. I cant wait. Kim will be back too. My guess is that the Chinese already have her.

[Trippin4136]

Wow. Just wow is all I can say. This season was amazing.

First off that neck break on Bierko....HARDCORE!

Jack giving Henderson a gun with no bullets, and pumping him 2 shots in him was awesome.

I didn't know what to expect when Logan and Jack were in that building. What if he caved? I was thinking that Jack wasn't going to be able to kill Logan.

The pen mic plant was great. Martha knew all along. That smile that she and Mike shot over to Logan as he was being taken away was priceless.

I knew the Kim phonecall was a fake. I think everyone saw that. Jack being taken away by the Chinese was a great way to end the episode. I know everyone is up in arms about the Chinese not showing up until the final second. But seriously think about it. The whole season takes place in 1 day. I mean the Chinese weren't going to show up in the first half of the season, because it would take that much time for them to find out Jack was still alive. I wonder if Logan contacted them, when he was talking to the bluetooth guys. He told them "He was taking care of Bauer."

Anyways another great season. Can't wait until Season 6.


Yes that was all AMAZING. At the time, it didn't even occur to me that Logan probably tipped of the Chinese...ahhhh can it be January already?!?!

[Bartndrpleez]

SEVEN :rolleyes

OK, seven months and 1 week! (If in fact it comes back on NYD.):D

[baloneybandit21]

O MAN, whata finale, loved how they got logan but i thought the ending was a little predictable but suiting, cuz it was only a matter of time until the chinese found out

[Trippin4136]

All I'm gonna say....Jack took 2 shots to the face from a guy wielding a heavy wrench and still got up and broke the dudes neck with his legs....that is as badass as it comes.

[baloneybandit21]

btw heres a link to what they were talking about after the finale where you can download season 1 ep 1 and season5 ep 1

http://myspace.com/burgerking

[Fishbulb290]

I got chills when Jack was explaining how to kill the guy in the sub to the engineer.

"are you right or left handed"

"make sure to sever the vocal chords and the artery"

I think this season was incredible.

[watchtower86]

I really want to get the old seasons on DVD, but it's a lot of money to spend which I don't have.

[Mikearney 25]

I really want to get the old seasons on DVD, but it's a lot of money to spend which I don't have.

rent them for 5 days for like 8 dollars each tops

Okay, I'm still amazed. I dont know how people couldnt be happy with how that ended. But to each their own.

Jack cant have much left (probably why he asked to be shot) because hes been up for well over 24 hours now, and its not like he was lounging around. I cant imagine that the Chinese will give him a nice bed to sleep in, let him rest up, and tend to his wounds either. Should make for a pretty interesting escape attempt.

[junior94]

Man I'm sorry but some of you guys are way too easily impressed. And if you think the writing on this show is so good, then frankly I almost don't know what to say, the depth of other possible material for you all to watch to then see what truly good writing is. And yea I admit it, I've said for a long time now I'm probably the most critical person of this show for who's actually a fan of it, but I think I may finally be tired of it (especially if some of these other new impending shows next fall turn out to be as good as they're sounding, after all I don't like to have too many shows on my overall watch list, if new ones come one I'd like some old to move off).

And for Jack's "interrogation" scene of Logan, you HAD to know that was merely a setup for something, right? I mean was anyone really surprised by that? For one, you just know that despite Jack's being right essentially in a way that he "had nothing left to lose", there was no way on Earth he had any intention of actually killing Logan right there, so that was an empty threat. And so what, he went thru ALL that just to count to some melodramatic #3 and then wimp out, that he couldn't "bring himself to do it?" Of course not! The entire meeting was covering for something else, in this case being the swift planting of the recording device (& obviously it having to be on Logan, since Jack knew eventually Logan would suspect Martha and then immediately frisk her for something when they were alone).

And lordy, they musta paid Elisha Cuthbert a pretty penny to get her back for those 3 eps, because I know she was happy to have moved on, but there was very little point in bringing her back for what that amounted to be.

[UNC41]

Man I'm sorry but some of you guys are way too easily impressed. And if you think the writing on this show is so good, then frankly I almost don't know what to say, the depth of other possible material for you all to watch to then see what truly good writing is. And yea I admit it, I've said for a long time now I'm probably the most critical person of this show for who's actually a fan of it, but I think I may finally be tired of it (especially if some of these other new impending shows next fall turn out to be as good as they're sounding, after all I don't like to have too many shows on my overall watch list, if new ones come one I'd like some old to move off).

And for Jack's "interrogation" scene of Logan, you HAD to know that was merely a setup for something, right? I mean was anyone really surprised by that? For one, you just know that despite Jack's being right essentially in a way that he "had nothing left to lose", there was no way on Earth he had any intention of actually killing Logan right there, so that was an empty threat. And so what, he went thru ALL that just to count to some melodramatic #3 and then wimp out, that he couldn't "bring himself to do it?" Of course not! The entire meeting was covering for something else, in this case being the swift planting of the recording device (& obviously it having to be on Logan, since Jack knew eventually Logan would suspect Martha and then immediately frisk her for something when they were alone).

And lordy, they musta paid Elisha Cuthbert a pretty penny to get her back for those 3 eps, because I know she was happy to have moved on, but there was very little point in bringing her back for what that amounted to be.

Boners across America does not equal very little.

[junior94]

Boners across America does not equal very little.

heh. Well okay you might have something there. But where that's concerned, might I just recommend a rent (ah fuck it, just buy) "THE GIRL NEXT DOOR" :cool

[Footestompgp1]

hey, can someone tell me what the preview slot after the finale had in it? my tape cut between the end of the season and the preview slot. thanks

[wvumascotdmb]

has anyone checked out the myspace page that the ad ran for in the last 30 min? www.myspace.com/burgerking

i'm watching the first epsiode of season 5 right now and you can d/l the whole season for $47!!!

[Bron Yr Aur]

Man I'm sorry but some of you guys are way too easily impressed. And if you think the writing on this show is so good, then frankly I almost don't know what to say, the depth of other possible material for you all to watch to then see what truly good writing is. And yea I admit it, I've said for a long time now I'm probably the most critical person of this show for who's actually a fan of it, but I think I may finally be tired of it (especially if some of these other new impending shows next fall turn out to be as good as they're sounding, after all I don't like to have too many shows on my overall watch list, if new ones come one I'd like some old to move off).

And for Jack's "interrogation" scene of Logan, you HAD to know that was merely a setup for something, right? I mean was anyone really surprised by that? For one, you just know that despite Jack's being right essentially in a way that he "had nothing left to lose", there was no way on Earth he had any intention of actually killing Logan right there, so that was an empty threat. And so what, he went thru ALL that just to count to some melodramatic #3 and then wimp out, that he couldn't "bring himself to do it?" Of course not! The entire meeting was covering for something else, in this case being the swift planting of the recording device (& obviously it having to be on Logan, since Jack knew eventually Logan would suspect Martha and then immediately frisk her for something when they were alone).

And lordy, they musta paid Elisha Cuthbert a pretty penny to get her back for those 3 eps, because I know she was happy to have moved on, but there was very little point in bringing her back for what that amounted to be.

People have become too easily impressed for sure, and I've been critical of this season for a long time, but I think you've talked yourself out of liking the show. I was definitely surprised by some of the key events, as many others were, and I think these two episodes really redeemed much of the season, but were, in my opinion, in their own right, highly excellent. The last 4-5 weeks have shown me that the cinematography and careful cameral work is slowly coming back into play (Jack killing Henderson, shot of Martha from the backseat of the car Aaron was riding, some good angles and some good shots), and I think the plot really tightened up at the end of this one. Sure, the nerve gas was only in the sub for 5 minutes, and could've entered through the skin, but that stuff has been common throughout 24's entire run.

The last few episodes really tied things together, and there were many very good moments between Logan/Martha, Logan/Jack, and Jack/Henderson that seemed a lot more like the stuff they used to put in the show. And I don't know what's really wrong with the writing. I couldn't really find any laughable lines, and the dialogue was reminiscent of seasons 1-3. The only bad part: Morris' first scene with Chloe.

I mean, yeh, if you pay close attention, you can probably figure out that Jack's whole meeting with Logan is just a ploy, but when you're sitting there really enveloped in the show, that stuff just doesn't pass through my mind because I'm so involved.

The last scene before the last commercial break was one of the best moments in a very long time on 24, with Jack being captured, and nobody knowing what's going on, and the last scene was a bit reminiscent of S2, and was very good because it showed that Jack isn't invincible...I almost think they could've ended the series right there with killing Jack.

These episodes did a very nice job of setting up the next few seasons, as well....definitely did a nice job of wrapping up some of the characters and providing some nice moments between Jack and Audrey, Aaron and Martha, and Bill and Karen. They simply MUST bring back Kim, however. The biggest flaw of the season is that they brought her in for a weak 3-ep arc that had no point at all. The only way to get rid of her character is to kill her off, and if Elisha Cuthbert doesn't want to be a part of the show, then work her back in and kill her off...

Honestly, I'm not easily pleased, but I think that these last few episodes have really redeemed my faith in the series, and definitely redeemed S5 a bit, as well. I really can't wait to see it again on DVD to be able to tell how I really feel about it as it compares with the others.

[Fishbulb290]

(& obviously it having to be on Logan, since Jack knew eventually Logan would suspect Martha and then immediately frisk her for something when they were alone).

Why would he suspect her?

If she didn't freak out nothing would've happened between them.

[Fishbulb290]

The engineer kid said that he cleared the system as soon as he saw the gas. I'm no chemical weapons expert but that might've explained how it didn't burn their skin.

[bdfresh62]

Sure, the nerve gas was only in the sub for 5 minutes, and could've entered through the skin, but that stuff has been common throughout 24's entire run.

I thought the episode where Edgar died, they mentioned that the nerve gas doesn't effect you through skin. Remember Jack had to hold his breath crwaling through the walls, but his skin was exposed.



I mean, yeh, if you pay close attention, you can probably figure out that Jack's whole meeting with Logan is just a ploy, but when you're sitting there really enveloped in the show, that stuff just doesn't pass through my mind because I'm so involved.

The last scene before the last commercial break was one of the best moments in a very long time on 24, with Jack being captured, and nobody knowing what's going on, and the last scene was a bit reminiscent of S2, and was very good because it showed that Jack isn't invincible...I almost think they could've ended the series right there with killing Jack.



I concur on both of those points. I was so into the episode I was really thinking about what was going to happen. I also think the perfect way to end the series could have been killing Jack right then and there. I mean sure, you wouldn't resolve some points, but killing Jack Bauer would stick with you.

[Fishbulb290]

He said that you aren't in it long enough to affect you. I would think if it can eat through plastic it could eat through your skin.

[mr.MikeD]

pretty bad season in general, but the last 4ish eps, and especially the 2 tonight were top drawer.

[Bartndrpleez]

A couple questions to ponder:

1) How much time will elapse b/w this season and next? B/w 4 and 5 was 18 months. And previous to that I believe the gap at one point b/w seasons was 2 or 3 years. What do they go with next?

2) What will Audrey's role be? I read somewhere that Kim Raver had signed on to a new series so her role must be limited next season. Maybe that will tie in to the time gap in the show?

Some things to think about for next season. As far as ranking this season, its hard to say. I'd say 4th or 3rd at best. Season 2 was my favorite very closely followed by Season 1.

[bdfresh62]

A couple questions to ponder:

1) How much time will elapse b/w this season and next? B/w 4 and 5 was 18 months. And previous to that I believe the gap at one point b/w seasons was 2 or 3 years. What do they go with next?

2) What will Audrey's role be? I read somewhere that Kim Raver had signed on to a new series so her role must be limited next season. Maybe that will tie in to the time gap in the show?

Some things to think about for next season. As far as ranking this season, its hard to say. I'd say 4th or 3rd at best. Season 2 was my favorite very closely followed by Season 1.


1.) I'd say maybe 6 months

2.) I think she'll be back at the DoD. Hopefully Heller will be back for most of the season.

[Fishbulb290]

I thought it would be cool to be the next day but I can't see that keeping up for an entire 24 episodes.

They are probably going to be building a lot of new characters with all the deaths this season so wouldn't be too hard to give Audrey a limited role.

[joepsu0985]

I think it was an awesome tribute to Edgar at the end.

[UglyNakedGuy]

Why would he suspect her?

If she didn't freak out nothing would've happened between them.

You are partially right, nothing would have happened, therefor having a mic on Martha would have been irrelevant anyways. She had to make a scene in order for them to begin arguing where Logan proceeded to admit to everything.