Official 24 Discussion (Greatest Show Ever)

[bradshaw06]

9000

i really liked the development of morris tonight and lennox showing hes not really a rat was good too

[tankdan]

I was thinking the same thing. Great instructions; like any idiot couldn't figure that out.

Reminds me of the old joke...

Smith & Wesson, the original point-and-click interface.

Anyway... It would have fit well into the show if whats-her-name walked up behind Mr. Bauer and popped him while Jack was kneeling there. No, she had to run away...

And I agree, tonight was really the first time we've seen a concerted effort at making Morris into a deep character. I've always thought he was a little fruity (especially last season), but I think it's clear that he could take care of business if he needed to (i.e. Chloe killing a goon with a machine gun).

However, I hope that the little tiff between Milo and Morris isn't still about Chloe, because it would be really stupid if they kept on competing all season over (easily) one of the ugliest women on the show, behind Sherry Palmer.

Dan

[joepsu0985]

9000

i really liked the development of morris tonight and lennox showing hes not really a rat was good too

7 mins too late....

Yeah I was hating Lennox...Now im liking the guy. Jack will be uber pissed if a second Palmer is killed.

Wow...we would see jack on a whole different level...

[dmblynny]

Jolynn, it's hard to remember where you are in the great sequence of things...

Just know that Sherry Palmer is the devil.

Dan:lol Yeah she is and she's dead!!!! That backstabbing psychotic bitch!!! I can't believe David is going to step down tho. I haven't been able to start S4 cause I'm still in awe of the greatness that is S3.


anyone get that phone number jack called??
If you really want it, I can check my TiVo.:D


wow, i did not see that ending coming at all. didn't think chad lowe was gonna do that to lennox either. what a great episode.

oh and bauer's unneccesary punch on the hostile in the hotel room was awesome
My brother and I cracked up at that.

Definitely think this was the best episode yet... I was surprised that Lennox was actually going to turn that rat Lowe in cause I thought he was turned... I swear if they kill another President Palmer, I'm gonna go ballistic. And this early in the season?!! <-- same for bringing back LOGAN!!! I lost it when I realized it was him. That beard threw me off for like 10 seconds. I wonder if Papa Bauer is gonna mess anything else up this season... poor Jack has been through so much!!!! I don't know how he does it. My fingers are crossed that I'm off next Monday, if not I have to settle for TiVo again.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Reminds me of the old joke...

Smith & Wesson, the original point-and-click interface.

Anyway... It would have fit well into the show if whats-her-name walked up behind Mr. Bauer and popped him while Jack was kneeling there. No, she had to run away...

And I agree, tonight was really the first time we've seen a concerted effort at making Morris into a deep character. I've always thought he was a little fruity (especially last season), but I think it's clear that he could take care of business if he needed to (i.e. Chloe killing a goon with a machine gun).

However, I hope that the little tiff between Milo and Morris isn't still about Chloe, because it would be really stupid if they kept on competing all season over (easily) one of the ugliest women on the show, behind Sherry Palmer.

Dan

The whole "so-and-so" saves the day by popping a few into the bad guys just as whoever is about to get executed really is 24's big thing. I think they do it a bit much now, though....I mean, I think it started with S1 really, with Tony shooting the dude who was about to kill Teri, then there was S4 with Tony saving Jack, and even tonight Jack killed Papa Bauer's henchmen when they were about to kill Milo....a little overdone I'd say. That's why the end of tonight's episode was fucking fantastic.

[tdowe99]

anyone get that phone number jack called??

310-597-3781 :twenty4

[Trippin4136]

this may have been said but does it not irk anyone else that Morris seems totally unafflicted by the baseball bat to the ribs and the power drill to the shoulder? I mean come on, the man would barely be able to stand let alone work. He shoulder will be liquidated from that power drill. Now, I know we all know that Jack can over come such torture (which he already has this season), but Morris? Come on....

Also, Philip just vanishes into thin air? I know that since he's a Bauer he's stealth, but that was a little ridiculous.

[joepsu0985]

this may have been said but does it not irk anyone else that Morris seems totally unafflicted by the baseball bat to the ribs and the power drill to the shoulder? I mean come on, the man would barely be able to stand let alone work. He shoulder will be liquidated from that power drill. Now, I know we all know that Jack can over come such torture (which he already has this season), but Morris? Come on....

Also, Philip just vanishes into thin air? I know that since he's a Bauer he's stealth, but that was a little ridiculous.

Sounds like you are looking for reasons to bash the show. Morris not even a main stream character. Yeah he built the device, but still. Jack's dad had a gun to his head. Jack was clearly trying to save his ass at the time and his brother was already killed by their father. I dont think he wanted to kill both sons.

So far this season is one of the best. Last nights episode was some entertaining stuff.

There are some clear idocies I can recall from the first season as well. This show is fictional, you are supposed to let your mind wander.

[Trippin4136]

Dude, I love 24 as much, if not more, than anyone. There is just much less of attention to detail in this season than in prior years. I don't deny that its highly entertaining. For me, so for this season, I still rank it behind S1, S3 and S5.

[joepsu0985]

to early to judge that I think.

[Trippin4136]

is it not too early to call this season one of the best?

[Bartender84]

is it not too early to call this season one of the best?
For about the first 8 or so hours of Season 4, I thought it was the best. And then everything became dull and way too farfetched in the last half of that season, and it became the worst.

[??????]

was it just me or did CTU NOT oversee the house Jack first went to? after milo got shot, he told him he would call ctu and have them send meds. why didn't they have satelites over the whole block so just in case, if the bad guys got away on foot/car/etc, they could see that and follow them.....

why wasn't the head office watching?

[draven33]

is it not too early to call this season one of the best?

Way too early....for me, S1, S3, and S5 are by far the best and this one is not starting off as good as those in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, its very entertaining and has me hooked, however the odd years I mentioned were better so far....to me.

[joepsu0985]

is it not too early to call this season one of the best?

I was talking about the begining of the seasons. So far this one is ranking right up there with the best.

[tankdan]

Season Four Spoiler...


I think Season Four had the best beginning... the train, Heller's abduction, the computer analyst at Union Station, Behrooz/Navi, Jack hijacking the gas station... The first 8 episodes of Season Four were better than the rest of the season combined.

Dan

[joepsu0985]

Season Four Spoiler...


I think Season Four had the best beginning... the train, Heller's abduction, the computer analyst at Union Station, Behrooz/Navi, Jack hijacking the gas station... The first 8 episodes of Season Four were better than the rest of the season combined.

Dan


I think the beginning was pretty intense that season, but the rest dragged it down big time. I mean how lame was it how they just simply shot the nuke out of the air? It was horrible. Then endign was pretty good, though. The last 2 hours anyways. It started this whole mess with Jack in Day 6.

Also, I think day 5 is going to come into play much much more. We are goign to see some more characters back. I have a feeling the guy who is tryign to kill WP, we have seen before.

[tankdan]

Yeh, it reminds me of when they tried to run Wayne off the road last season and Curtis came and saved him. They told us that Logan was behind that, right?

And what ever happened to Curits, anyway? Oh, and if we have to see Martha and Logan get it on again, I'll quit.

So who's taking bets on whether or not Jack kills his father this season?

Dan

[dmblynny]

^Jack is capable of anything but for some reason I don't see him killing his father...


And FYI ~ I'm just beginning S4 on DVD and you guys are knockin' it!!! SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...:twenty4 :p :twenty4

[tankdan]

I figured you'd be starting Season 4 soon, that's why I added the "S4 Spoiler" heading to my review...

Don't worry, Season 4 was very action packed and was great from start to finish... except maybe the middle. Great things happened.

Dan

[joepsu0985]

Yeh, it reminds me of when they tried to run Wayne off the road last season and Curtis came and saved him. They told us that Logan was behind that, right?

And what ever happened to Curits, anyway? Oh, and if we have to see Martha and Logan get it on again, I'll quit.

So who's taking bets on whether or not Jack kills his father this season?

Dan

On Curtis
Jack killed curtis early this season

I dont think Jack will kill his father. It depends on what is tied into Logan and Palmer's death.

[joepsu0985]

^Jack is capable of anything but for some reason I don't see him killing his father...


And FYI ~ I'm just beginning S4 on DVD and you guys are knockin' it!!! SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...:twenty4 :p :twenty4

Lol...its really good in the beginning, however it goes down hill fast...Kind of drags along.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Dude, I love 24 as much, if not more, than anyone. There is just much less of attention to detail in this season than in prior years. I don't deny that its highly entertaining. For me, so for this season, I still rank it behind S1, S3 and S5.

S5 was pretty weak in the middle. It definitely seemed to become a bit more mainstream, and I thought it was incredible unbelievable. The beginning and end of the season really saved it, though. S6, I must say, has started out excellently. I agree about Morris, hah, there's no way he's be able to work, but that's 24. However, I definitely think that Phillip could've easily gotten away, I mean obviously Jack was in a slightly altered state, baring his soul and believing he was about to be killed....

[tankdan]

On Curtis
Jack killed curtis early this season

I dont think Jack will kill his father. It depends on what is tied into Logan and Palmer's death.

Wow, I don't even know why I said Curtis... I meant the secret service guy... AARON PIERCE! Whatever happened to Aaron??

Dan

[Gonzo#34]

who said curtis is dead? he could pull a Tony ala' season 3. Tony got shot in the neck and came back liek 5 hours later with a band-aid on

[joepsu0985]

who said curtis is dead? he could pull a Tony ala' season 3. Tony got shot in the neck and came back liek 5 hours later with a band-aid on

No man...he was killed...definatly..

[dmblynny]

For the love of God please tell me David Palmer is involved in Season 4!!!!!!!!!!

[dmblynny]

P.S. Dan ~ I'm highly anticipating Jack hijacking this gas station... he is the fuckin' man, man, :haha




And is it me or does Driscoll suck at life? (I know, I know... it's probably too early.)

[dmblynny]

:lol Definitely just hijacked the gas station.:lol What a way to end the episode... EL CLASSICO



But no signs of President David Palmer yet!!!!! :devil :lorraine :devil

[Ev42]

:


But no signs of President David Palmer yet!!!!! :devil :lorraine :devil

wait for it

[dmblynny]

wait for it

:bounce Thank you!:bounce



:D

[dmblynny]

Ahhhh geez... now I'm gonna cry for this poor 'Berus' boy and Debby. That kid is gonna be fucked up if he makes it out of this day alive... or come back in 10 years if 24 is still on and wage another war against the U.S. :rolleyes


Shutting up now... NIGHT NIGHT!!

[DMBfan41]

Currently, im in the UK, but don't think for a second i haven't been keeping up. This season is nuts!! With all the family drama and now with Logan back in the picture? It's become a soap opera with a lot more violence. I love it!

[joepsu0985]

Ahhhh geez... now I'm gonna cry for this poor 'Berus' boy and Debby. That kid is gonna be fucked up if he makes it out of this day alive... or come back in 10 years if 24 is still on and wage another war against the U.S. :rolleyes


Shutting up now... NIGHT NIGHT!!

Lol....you have no idea

[dmblynny]

Lol....you have no idea
Oh geez...

I almost died when I say the return of Tony!!! YAY!!! And now Michelle is back, too. Shame they broke up...


But where the hell is David Palmer?!:twenty4

[joepsu0985]

haha...maybe he's not in day 4

[tankdan]

Tough Saturday Night Trivia: 24 Edition!

no cheating!

Name all of the "silent clock" occurences to date.

Dan

[bradshaw06]

Tough Saturday Night Trivia: 24 Edition!

no cheating!

Name all of the "silent clock" occurences to date.

Dan

one was when edgar died, and i think another was when chapelle died. i know theres like 2-3 more though

[cwsrule88]

^ one was when mason flew the airplane into mohave desert

[dmblynny]

And the end of Season 3???

[tankdan]

True or False:

Tony Almeida received a silent clock tribute.

Dan

Edit: Bonus Question:

Which is the only silent clock occurrence to NOT happen at the end of an episode?

[dmblynny]

True or False:

Tony Almeida received a silent clock tribute.

Dan

Edit: Bonus Question:

Which is the only silent clock occurrence to NOT happen at the end of an episode?
False??? Shit, I don't remember. But if he didn't, he should've!!!

ohhh and dang it, I know what you're talking about but can't pin point a clear vision in my head. :haha

[Bron Yr Aur]

True or False:

Tony Almeida received a silent clock tribute.

Dan

Edit: Bonus Question:

Which is the only silent clock occurrence to NOT happen at the end of an episode?

Way too easy, Mason leaving CTU for the last time.

And of course, the first statement is false, as well. I believe Teri, Chappelle, and Mason are the only three characters who have received the silent clock treatment.

[junior94]

Forgive me, but thinking of something I'd heard said recently, I'm curious in gauging the exact amount of insanity with you people for this ludicrous show :p (which then, you're really a perfect match with the thing, now I realize it :thumbsup :lol )

How many of you guys sincerely regard "24" as literally the greatest one hour drama ever produced in the history of American TV?

[tankdan]

Way too easy, Mason leaving CTU for the last time.

And of course, the first statement is false, as well. I believe Teri, Chappelle, and Mason are the only three characters who have received the silent clock treatment.

There have been five silent clocks:
S1E24: Teri Bauer's death (11:59 p.m.).
S2E14: George Mason leaving CTU for the last time (9:35 p.m.).
S2E24: President Palmer's collapse after being poisoned (7:59 a.m.).
S3E18: Ryan Chappelle's death (6:59 a.m.).
S5E12: Edgar Stiles' death (6:59 p.m.).

Forgive me, but thinking of something I'd heard said recently, I'm curious in gauging the exact amount of insanity with you people for this ludicrous show :p (which then, you're really a perfect match with the thing, now I realize it :thumbsup :lol )

How many of you guys sincerely regard "24" as literally the greatest one hour drama ever produced in the history of American TV?

It's very enjoyable to watch on DVD, but it is absolutely unsatisfying on regular tv, one episode at a time.

The reasoning behind some folks' obsession includes:
Incredible cliffhangers.
A penchant for unforeseen plot twists, including moles, betrayal, and unexpected death.
Great, long action sequences.
Jack Bauer. He is a noble, patriotic, heroic, reliable, and decisive character. He always has the best interest of America in mind and he frequently finds a way out of impossible predicaments and blackmails.
Evil characters that we love to hate.

Ultimately, it's an action show like no other which thrives on obnoxiously unexpected plot twists and incredibly unsolvable predicaments.

Plus, I'm sure that the terrorist theme plays a big part, as "24" premiered on November 6th, 2001. It's a fun chance to watch a great American kick terrorists' asses.

And I like it. It gets your heart pounding and, like a roller coaster, you strap yourself in for a ride and avoid trying to predict what will come next.

Dan

P.S. Michelle Dessler was hot, too.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Forgive me, but thinking of something I'd heard said recently, I'm curious in gauging the exact amount of insanity with you people for this ludicrous show :p (which then, you're really a perfect match with the thing, now I realize it :thumbsup :lol )

How many of you guys sincerely regard "24" as literally the greatest one hour drama ever produced in the history of American TV?

These days, 24 is still one of the best shows on TV, but now it's just a really good show which, though very "out there" and definitely not really realistic, is still exciting, it has great characters, and a usually intriguing plot.

However, Season 1 was absolutely fantastic. Best thing on network television in a long time. Completely original, exciting, great characters. I mean, it wasn't too far out there, it was believable, and back then they didn't feel the need to pack too much action/adventure into each episode. The season worked its way out all the way and had a stunning end.

[joepsu0985]

Forgive me, but thinking of something I'd heard said recently, I'm curious in gauging the exact amount of insanity with you people for this ludicrous show :p (which then, you're really a perfect match with the thing, now I realize it :thumbsup :lol )

How many of you guys sincerely regard "24" as literally the greatest one hour drama ever produced in the history of American TV?

At least the producers dont lie to us.:eek

People being all coincidentally lost on an island is just as realistic as 24. Dont even get me started on Lost. I love the show, but its been dragging on for 3 seasons and we dont know why they are an the island. Each show has their faults.

[dmblynny]

All shows have their faults, correct????

24 is just soooo adrenaline pumping, off the edge of my seat, insanely & differently awesome ~ unless you've seen a season or two, you really can't knock the show. Just like seeing DMB ~ don't fuckin' talk shit on them unless you've seen them live!!! :twak

[Bron Yr Aur]

All shows have their faults, correct????

24 is just soooo adrenaline pumping, off the edge of my seat, insanely & differently awesome ~ unless you've seen a season or two, you really can't knock the show. Just like seeing DMB ~ don't fuckin' talk shit on them unless you've seen them live!!! :twak

Well this comment doesn't make sense, because I'm pretty sure junior94 used to be a fan of the show when it first started, and I believe his contention that it has progressively gotten worse and worse, more ridiculously unbelievable and more ridiculously unbelievable over the years. I agree to a point, but the show is still quite good, and it is really the only show I make a point of watching every week.

[junior94]

At least the producers dont lie to us.:eek


gggrrrrrrggrrrrggrrrr *low rumble*... Man, did they piss me off with that last week :cool


People being all coincidentally lost on an island is just as realistic as 24. Dont even get me started on Lost. I love the show, but its been dragging on for 3 seasons and we dont know why they are an the island. Each show has their faults.

But c'mon Joe, honestly, there's a certain acknowledgement going into LOST with what it is, it's understood there's a huge fantastical, sci-fi element to it, so as long as those are the established rules up front, then yea you can play around with having some really weird shit going down (& mind the producers -- which, yes I still believe them -- intend to ultimately have an explanation for all this shit in the end anyway).

With 24, it's like you're supposed to be believe that ANY of this crazy stuff would actually happen in a real world. As I've said, there's a thing called "suspension of disbelief", and then there's 24. :p :lol

Well this comment doesn't make sense, because I'm pretty sure junior94 used to be a fan of the show when it first started, and I believe his contention that it has progressively gotten worse and worse, more ridiculously unbelievable and more ridiculously unbelievable over the years. I agree to a point, but the show is still quite good, and it is really the only show I make a point of watching every week.

Correct, Bron Yr Aur, in fact if you go back in the overal history of this thread, you'll find many posts by me. Believe, I promise you I was just as excited for the prospect of this show when it first started than any other single member in here. Kiefer Sutherland had always been one of my favorite character actors, he was a major fixture in my childhood (mind you, I say that realizing my childhood was concurrent with most of you not even being yet a glimmer in your parents' eyes :p ) and I knew he'd really hit a rough skid for awhile so I was quite happy to see him be a part of something that I knew would very likely be a hit. And yes, I was with it for the most part of season 1. There were some flaws, some inconsistencies, but a lot I felt was acceptable at that point.

Then whooo boy, the second half of season 2 comes along :freak It was at that time that I swore up and down I would NOT return for season 3, because plot developments had just gotten too bizarre and ridiculous (including most definitely Kim). And sure enough it suckered me back in for a couple more, but after they did what they did with the end of season 5, I knew I was finally done for good. Deciding that late in the game to make the President the head of the whole conspiracy was just too eyeroll-worthy even for me. I mean, just for one example, does everyone forget that back in like, episode 8 or whatever, the President stood there in a room with Jack and Jack was telling him outright he was perfectly fine to stop his involvement right there, and go home and take a shower, go to bed. The President then goes out of his way to convince Jack to stick around and stay on to help them out with everyone. So, basically, in the span of twelve seconds right there the President could've easily avoided ALL of the trouble that took place for himself in the last quarter of the season simply by letting Jack walk away. WHY IN GODS NAME WOULD LOGAN HAVE CONVINCED JACK TO REMAIN??? Oh wait, I know why, because the producers didn't know Logan was the main villain at that point. See it's stuff like this that is just bad writing. How, with a show like "24" you can't just make things up as you go along because way too often when you try to pull off these huge late inning twists, it ends up blatanly contradicting something that happened 12 episodes earlier.

And truth be told even though I'd definitely decided I was finally quitting with the end of season 5, when word came out that the intial 4 hours of s6 were available via bit torrent, I actually DL them and watch them all, just to have some new fodder against you sillies to stop by and further explain why the show was ridiculous, but I never did get around to pooling all my thoughts together in a post or posts (also I bothered to spend the time to do that because at that particular time I was sorta depressed about something and that was an easy way to completely take my mind off it for awhile).

[junior94]

Oh and I think I saw someone bring this up before, and I would tend to agree -- the show "THE UNIT" on CBS, now there is some quality writing in a show that I'd think 24 fans would be into, because it's generally the same thing, all about fighting terrorism (and hell, it's got Dennis Haysbert). But it's far more realistic, it's not just all about ultra fast paced actions and explosions, it's much more cerebral material. It's actually very fitting that David Mamet created it, because with him being pretty much the premiere writer of the con these days, when you boil it down that show is essentially about a group of elite con men, they just happen to carry about machine guns while they do it ;)

[Trippin4136]

I really enjoyed The Unit. But the story lines with the wives really disinterested me.

[cwsrule88]

alright im just throwing it out there but there should be no women allowed in la when there terrorist attacks because they always find ways to mess it up for jack


ie: jacks brothers wife, his daughter and that one sister from season 2 :mad

[OlivePoet]

:lol The code for the bomb is 624. :lol

Season 6 of 24. :lol

Ok, back to the show.

[AlpineValley804]

What an ending.

[clayj41]

Solid episode...

[joepsu0985]

What the hell did the terrorists have? One of those spy planes? And now we are going to have a new president obviously. And i guess he will be in with Lennox's aide. And something tells me Logan is up to something. That is too good to be true.

[Bron Yr Aur]

The plot of the season just went from very good to shit in one episode...how the fuck does someone kill the president? How many times do they have to kill the president during the course of the show?? It's ridiculous...

[joepsu0985]

The plot of the season just went from very good to shit in one episode...how the fuck does someone kill the president? How many times do they have to kill the president during the course of the show?? It's ridiculous...


I agree...that was kind of ridiculous. You dont have threats on 2 presidents lives in what the 10 years of "24" time. Just a bit unrealistic.

[Trippin4136]

The plot of the season just went from very good to shit in one episode...how the fuck does someone kill the president? How many times do they have to kill the president during the course of the show?? It's ridiculous...

I agree. It is so strung out in different areas with such weak plotline and even weaker writing.

Fayed has become a near obsolete character, mentioned by name but only appears for minutes per hour. Just about the same can be said for Gradenko and that'd drone plot is absurd.

The way the episode ended seemed like it was just slapped together. Morris' alchy storyline and the CTU infighting is unnecessary and seriously waters down the show IMO.

2 threats in 10 years of 24 time? More like 4. Palmer at the end of S2, Keeler in S4, you can argue Logan last year, and now Wayne. Not too mention assassination attempts on Palmer in S1 the Russian Pres last year.

Oh and Philip Bauer? What, I figure they just drop that storyline for a couple weeks as he goes "dark".

[joepsu0985]

Yeah Im disappointed. This season started out strong. Now its heading down hill.

[junior94]

The plot of the season just went from very good to shit in one episode...how the fuck does someone kill the president? How many times do they have to kill the president during the course of the show?? It's ridiculous...

I agree...that was kind of ridiculous. You dont have threats on 2 presidents lives in what the 10 years of "24" time. Just a bit unrealistic.

I agree. It is so strung out in different areas with such weak plotline and even weaker writing.

Fayed has become a near obsolete character, mentioned by name but only appears for minutes per hour. Just about the same can be said for Gradenko and that'd drone plot is absurd.

The way the episode ended seemed like it was just slapped together. Morris' alchy storyline and the CTU infighting is unnecessary and seriously waters down the show IMO.

2 threats in 10 years of 24 time? More like 4. Palmer at the end of S2, Keeler in S4, you can argue Logan last year, and now Wayne. Not too mention assassination attempts on Palmer in S1 the Russian Pres last year.

Oh and Philip Bauer? What, I figure they just drop that storyline for a couple weeks as he goes "dark".


*gasp* :eek Uhhhh ohhh.... I've started to significantly infect these hardcore devotees. One step at a time, my master plan at work. mwaaahaahaahaaahaaahaaa!!! :evil

[OlivePoet]

Hey Kevin. :hug

[DMBCubs25]

great episode, cant wait to see what happens next week with jack and markov

tom lennox:lol :lol

[joepsu0985]

*gasp* :eek Uhhhh ohhh.... I've started to significantly infect these hardcore devotees. One step at a time, my master plan at work. mwaaahaahaahaaahaaahaaa!!! :evil


haha...no its a coincidence. At least we arent watching people on an island for three years wondering why they are there and if they are ever going to get off...

(Well i do that too...but still)

[DynastyDrummer1]

great episode, cant wait to see what happens next week with jack and markov

tom lennox:lol :lol

i was having flashbacks to when they broke into the chinese embassey or whatever it was called a few seasons ago.

[Trippin4136]

*gasp* :eek Uhhhh ohhh.... I've started to significantly infect these hardcore devotees. One step at a time, my master plan at work. mwaaahaahaahaaahaaahaaa!!! :evil

LOL, but no. I saw this coming after what I thought were an extremely flat opening 4 hours despite Curtis' death and the nuke. I will never give up on 24, nor will I ever top watching, but I can be objective about the show.

[junior94]

haha...no its a coincidence. At least we arent watching people on an island for three years wondering why they are there and if they are ever going to get off...

(Well i do that too...but still)

Dude, don't you dare be baggin on GILLIGAN'S ISLAND like that. Classic, classic stuff. Please respect your history :cool

LOL, but no. I saw this coming after what I thought were an extremely flat opening 4 hours despite Curtis' death and the nuke. I will never give up on 24, nor will I ever top watching, but I can be objective about the show.

Hmm.. yea gee, Curtis's death. Hey -- I know!! Just as a way to give the audience a big ole' shock at the end of the 4th hour premiere, let's have one of our most beloved and favorite characters completely and nonsensically turn on a dime regarding his on the job professionalism, so we can actually have Jack (of all poeple!) bust a cap in his ass!

BRILLIANT!!! :thumbsup


:rolleyes .....
:p

[junior94]

Hey Kevin. :hug

Oh, right. And evenin', Her Royal Heatness :cool
You know wow, at the time I'm making this post, your post count is almost a numerical palandrome. 18,811. Just think, if only you'd made an additional 100,000 posts before now, you'd have it! Looks like you better get off your ass then, huh? ;) :D

[Tiduwho]

You know what's cool? Criticizing.

[joepsu0985]

Go back to your island. And continue to decide who the "others" are. And how all these people miraculously survived a plan accident. Yeah they didnt out do their odds. Real realistic...We see people survive plane accidents daily..:p

[Tiduwho]

Cannibalism in the Andes? At least 24 would never go there.



To the Andes I mean. Jack ate that guy's neck in the 1st episode pretty good.

[joepsu0985]

lol....yeah. That was bad ass. Jack did chop some dude's head off in season 3 too.

[junior94]

You know what's cool? Criticizing.

Well ok so wait a second, it's only okay and you only want to hear about all total praising for a show in its thread? Possessing a dissenting opinion is not welcome?

And besides, it's okay. ;) I'm well aware I'm too cool for school, but I appreciate you taking the time to mention it again anyway :cool


Oh and btw, Jack dies next week. And Chloe is the one who kills him.

Damn, sorry. I probably should've put that in spoiler tags shouldn't I. :shrug

[junior94]

See with at least most of you guys, you're cool enough that I can stop in here sometimes and completely bash and make fun of you and your special little show, but some fun can be had with that :p You've got senses of humor.

But then you got people like Matt who are so friggin dedicated and obsessed with the thing at a virtually unhealthy and dangerous level, and take everything way too seriously.

[Tiduwho]

Well ok so wait a second, it's only okay and you only want to hear about all total praising for a show in its thread? Possessing a dissenting opinion is not welcome?

And besides, it's okay. ;) I'm well aware I'm too cool for school, but I appreciate you taking the time to mention it again anyway :cool


Oh and btw, Jack dies next week. And Chloe is the one who kills him.

Damn, sorry. I probably should've put that in spoiler tags shouldn't I. :shrug


Well.....I never would have said anything had you not posted over and over and over with each one longer and more critical than the last. Just seems like a waste of time in a fan thread.....to each his own.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Ehh, it's kind of stupid that you just decide to come in here and bash it just to stir the pot, but whatever...who cares. However, I do think that you've started looking at the show with a negative viewpoint and now you yourself can't even take an objective point of view.

I really think this season was on a really good path early on, and I thought the episode last week was one of the best in a LONG, long time. They just shouldn't have resorted to the "attack on the president" formula to add shock value, completely drop the Philip Bauer storyline, and blow the season up to such insanely large proportions. They've lost me on this one. The one thing I do know, though. No matter how ridiculous the plot becomes, the writers can still come up with some truly great episodes, even now. The writers are at their best when they have a really good story, and when they are trying to begin or close the seasons. That really is the main flaw of the formula, really. There are so many episodes, there is the feeling of a necessity to pack a lot in to each episode to keep people watching, but that leads to a lot of meandering/pointless plot.

But it's still a fun show, and even though the plot took a turn for the worst this week, I'm guessing it'll reroute itself soon enough anyway. Hopefully they don't kill off Wayne, because DB Woodside really did a good job in this episode. Oh yeah, and Gregory Itzin is good to have back because he does a great job with the part.

[joepsu0985]

See with at least most of you guys, you're cool enough that I can stop in here sometimes and completely bash and make fun of you and your special little show, but some fun can be had with that :p You've got senses of humor.

But then you got people like Matt who are so friggin dedicated and obsessed with the thing at a virtually unhealthy and dangerous level, and take everything way too seriously.

Oh trust me...Tomorrow night when we learn nothing about Lost. Ill be in that thread, busting balls...count on it.

[watchtower86]

Wayne isn't dead. You can basically guarantee that one. I think this episode was a little bit of a letdown, but I think it'll pick up again and it will all come together.

[DMBtheStoned]

wow this season is great! I haven't been in this thread for along time.

wayne isn't dead.

[HolyCow]

I thought it was decent.

Needed to focus a lot more on Jack and Logan's story I thought. They need to cool off the cliffhanger, shock the crap out of you moments because it is getting predictable.

What would have shocked the pants out of me, ironically, would been if Tom Lennox could have gotten loose, knocked that guy out and stopped Reed. Now that would have been something.


I hope Fayed isn't dead, because that would suck. Obviously Palmer didn't die. The show would be in a tailspin to crap if that was what happened.

[meatball41]

What was it that Logan said as he was looking at himself in the mirror? I looked away from the TV for a minute and didn't quite catch what that was all about. Thanks.

[Tiduwho]

What was it that Logan said as he was looking at himself in the mirror? I looked away from the TV for a minute and didn't quite catch what that was all about. Thanks.

I'm pretty sure it was a Bible Verse. It was really hard to hear though, he was talking so quietly.

[dobyblue]

Ehh, it's kind of stupid that you just decide to come in here and bash it just to stir the pot
:thumbsup

Agreed. It's old too.

[junior94]

JERK ALERT!! JERK ALERT!!

Though obviously I've made my feelings regarding this show well known, I gotta admit to getting a good laugh after just coming across this. :D

After all, let's face it, Chunk is just no match for one Mr. Jack Bauer :violent

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2827426

:lol

[dmblynny]

I wonder if our newfound terrorist friend (can't remember his name ~ is it Assad??) is alive or not. And it is a bit far fetched that there are two attempts on a President's life in this short of time, let alone two PALMERS but what can ya do? It's T.V. 24 is still the best show everrrr... (tied with Law & Orders and Sex&theCity of course) haha

and I stick by my 'if they kill off two Palmers I will kill off the writers' stance. :twenty4

[Fishbulb290]

So does anyone know if it's a 2 parter tomorrow night? I've seen ads saying it is but my tivo says otherwise...

[tankdan]

My listings say it's only one hour, plus Prison Break is on its final run, so I don't think they'll have any more breaks.

Happy 24 day.

Dan

[dmblynny]

My listings say it's only one hour, plus Prison Break is on its final run, so I don't think they'll have any more breaks.

Happy 24 day.

Dan
:bounce I love the Mondays.:bounce

[Tiduwho]

Fuck yeah Tommy Boy! Reed done got owned.

[clayj41]

Good job ratting on them Lennox! It may come back to bite you in the ass, but it was the right thing to do.

[joepsu0985]

Jack's going in. Wow...cant belive the writers are doing it. Though it makes Jack look like a badass for doing the same shit if was thrown into a Chinese prison for.

[tankdan]

Frankly, it's good to see Jack Bauer in a suit for once... He never dresses up.

Kick some Ruskie butt!

Dan

[joepsu0985]

Wow...he just cut his finger off.

[clayj41]

Wow...he just cut his finger off.

:thumbsup Jack is such a badass!:twenty4

[clayj41]

Wow, intense episode! What's gonna happen to Jack...:eek

[joepsu0985]

wow back on track.

[GSUdawg521]

PIERCE! FUCK YEAH!!!

[DMBfreak41]

PIERCE! FUCK YEAH!!!

Both my mom and I screamed for joy

[wvumascotdmb]

Great episode...my wife and I both finally thought that tonight jack is finally back! I am really anxious to see how Logan's wife is going to play in all of this. And who is this new lead tack guy? Is he in for Curtis? I'm a little confused on that he is to replace Curtis not Jack...Jack is still provisional right?

Cutting the finger off was so great just great old school Jack! Reminds me of season 2 when he brings that witness in to just blow him away and cut off his head! haha

I think Lennox will punk out! There is no way Palmer is dead...I mean seriously I hope this doesn't come out wrong but they wouldn't kill David Palmer and then kill Wayne Palmer...the only two black presidents we have ever had. Catch my drift?

The biggest thing I think that came out of this was just the thought of wow just think what would happen in real life if the russians were behind something like this. I mean WW3 to the freaking max! So scary.

[cwsrule88]

damn hows jack going to get outta this one

and is it me or does it seem like now jack just doesnt care about who he kills after what happened to him in china? im not saying its bad... its freakin awesome

[Bron Yr Aur]

Well, last week was just one of those bad ones, I guess, because tonight was much, much better. I think the plot is on a much better line, but the one thing that really bothered me is the whole "bad Vice President" angle. I mean, enough already with that. Otherwise, though, this was another good episode. It's funny how when Kiefer gets the most face time, the show seems to improve. He stole the episode during the second half.

[Trippin4136]

I'm not saying they totally made up for what I thought was a poor episode last week, but it's getting there.

I agree Bron, I'm so tired of the negative VP and the scandal involving VPs on this show. They have more blatantly than ever recycled plot line in this season. As far as the nukes go, it's almost irrelevant at this point to me. It's all about this huge gov't conspiracy/cover-up and how that will be exposed the rest of the season.

Also, did anyone else notice how horribly fake the blood was in those scenes? :lol

I mean come on, it's like someone threw food coloring on their faces.

[HolyCow]

Anyone else getting frustrated with the way the episodes are going. Granted, I am a 24 newbie, so I may be totally out of line, but are all the seasons this frustrating?

When is Jack and CTU gonna catch a freaking break!?

[bradshaw06]

Anyone else getting frustrated with the way the episodes are going. Granted, I am a 24 newbie, so I may be totally out of line, but are all the seasons this frustrating?

When is Jack and CTU gonna catch a freaking break!?

no, they wont catch a break until the end. it gets frustrating because it always seems like they are one step behind

[joepsu0985]

Anyone else getting frustrated with the way the episodes are going. Granted, I am a 24 newbie, so I may be totally out of line, but are all the seasons this frustrating?

When is Jack and CTU gonna catch a freaking break!?

They never catch a break, when you think they do, they just get kicked back down.

[bradshaw06]

They never catch a break, when you think they do, they just get kicked back down.

kinda like us pens fans and the whole arena situation:shrug

[taphntm]

Anyone else getting frustrated with the way the episodes are going. Granted, I am a 24 newbie, so I may be totally out of line, but are all the seasons this frustrating?

When is Jack and CTU gonna catch a freaking break!?

:p I actually felt like he caught a break when suddenly there was a new vice president that actually ALLOWED jack to do what he wanted. I also felt like they caught a break when the vice president talked to the russian president. Really, compared to last season where the president was awful, this year seems to be catching a few MORE breaks.

also when lennox turned in the other guys I thought it was a break to the viewer instead of waiting for them to be caught at the end :freak although I know what you mean. there really are no breaks. in a non-stop show like 24 they can't afford time off

[DMBZeppelin]

I really liked this last episode. I just watched it about an hour ago. I also just finished Seaosn 5 an hour before that. It will be fun to finally talk about 24. I've avoided this thread like the plague. I didn't even start watching till after the 2 day 4 hour premiere of Season 6. Now I've finally seen all of Seaon 1-5. I just can't believe how this show keeps getting better and better.

[tankdan]

I really liked this last episode. I just watched it about an hour ago. I also just finished Seaosn 5 an hour before that. It will be fun to finally talk about 24. I've avoided this thread like the plague. I didn't even start watching till after the 2 day 4 hour premiere of Season 6. Now I've finally seen all of Seaon 1-5. I just can't believe how this show keeps getting better and better.

Wow, you, sir/madam, are a trooper!

Just a warning...
Soon you will experience the withdrawal of not having unlimited episodes at your fingertips... The one-a-week withdrawal is like quitting smoking cold turkey (I assume).

Which was your favorite season?

Dan

[cwsrule88]

^ its the worst though when the new season comes back and you watch the first double header then you have to wait another week for it to come back on

[DMBZeppelin]

Wow, you, sir/madam, are a trooper!

Just a warning...
Soon you will experience the withdrawal of not having unlimited episodes at your fingertips... The one-a-week withdrawal is like quitting smoking cold turkey (I assume).

Which was your favorite season?

Dan
<---- Sir, and yes it's hard to go down to one-a-week. I'd have been done in under a month had peekvid not gone down a few times during that time span. As far as my favorite season goes it's hard to say. I'm going to have to say either 3 or 5. Though when I saw Tony had come back in Season 4 I said to myself "This is my favorite T.V. show ever." and Season 5 I feel started off better then any season. Though I think Season 3 was just awesome because you had CTU being run by both Jack and Tony, and Palmer was president. Though 4 and 5 just had amazing writing. Now I'm rambling. I just can't come up with a definitive answer.

[DMBZeppelin]

Oh and in looking at 24 forums recently I've come across some cool links that fellow 24 fans may want:

This one tells you about all the gear Jack uses. The thing I saw that was really cool was his monocular and none other then the "Jack Pack" though due to its popularity as seen major inflation. When this article written in January it was $17. It went from $17 to $30 and now the Jack Pack is $50. Either way it's just cool to look at:
http://www.uncrate.com/men/gear/misc-gadgets/jack-bauer-gear-008978.php

This nifty program available here for free
http://www.stardock.com/products/logonstudio lets you change the login page on your Windows XP

Once you do that the first three logon themes on here
http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?libid=26&search=24 make your login page look like the ones from CTU. Well the 2nd and 3rd option are the same. One is normal and the other is for wide screen monitors. Either way I think it's cool.

This website lets you make your own ringtones: http://mobile17.com/ and what you can do with that is use some of these sound files: http://www.ccir.ed.ac.uk/~jad/ringtone.html so now if you want your cell to sound like a phone at CTU go for it.

Oh and South Park is doing a 24 episode: (it will be one of the first 7 of the new season) http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2007/03/a_controversial.html

And both Keifer and the girl who plays Chloe are doing their characters on the Simpsons 400th episode. Though I think South Park will do it better.

Sorry for all the links I probably seem like a huge 24 link but I came across this on a message board and thought all that stuff was cool.

[Bartender84]

Anyone else getting frustrated with the way the episodes are going. Granted, I am a 24 newbie, so I may be totally out of line, but are all the seasons this frustrating?

When is Jack and CTU gonna catch a freaking break!?
If they caught a break, the show would be called 4

[cwsrule88]

^ yeah if jack didnt work with such incompatent people that would just listen to him he could get this all done in 1 hour

[stiff1]

im trying to hear the song cornbread, can anyone help?

[stiff1]

hello

[Bartndrpleez]

im trying to hear the song cornbread, can anyone help?

hello

:lol:lol:lol

[tankdan]

Ummm... Happy 24 Day, all you lurkers...

What are the odds that Jack escapes from the Russians tonight? I hope the situation at least carries over into next week, sometimes I get tired of seeing potentially big stories get cut short.

And yes, as soon as I saw that cigar slicer last week I said to myself, "Self, this is going to get ugly real fast for someone's pinky."

Dan

[dmblynny]

I hope he gets out but not in the usual I'm going to kick 5 guys asses at once and then somehow escape routine... haha... but I don't want to see him get tortured by the damn Russians!!! Who the hell knows where they're going to take it... thank God for TiVo cause I'll be at work till 11!!!!

[cwsrule88]

i hate daylight savings, im all screwed up now 9 minutes away and i havent even eaten dinner yet. yeah i wonder how jack's going to get out of this time. did anyone notice the bad russian guard that killed the one that was trying to call ctu was in a curb your enthusiasm episode?

[dmblynny]

i hate daylight savings, im all screwed up now 9 minutes away and i havent even eaten dinner yet. yeah i wonder how jack's going to get out of this time. did anyone notice the bad russian guard that killed the one that was trying to call ctu was in a curb your enthusiasm episode?
Noooooo... then again I never saw Curb Your Enthusiasm so... :haha I was so mad when the other Russian killed him... :twenty4 but of course that happend. :rolleyes

[johnpcoyne]

i hate daylight savings, im all screwed up now 9 minutes away and i havent even eaten dinner yet. yeah i wonder how jack's going to get out of this time. did anyone notice the bad russian guard that killed the one that was trying to call ctu was in a curb your enthusiasm episode?

what episode of curb? ill have to go back and watch it to see if i can remember...

the new DST sucks because i was just starting to see the sunrise now im back to leaving for work when it's dark out.....but is light out when i get home now

[tankdan]

So what does everyone think, is Kiefer Sutherland wearing a skin-tight glove on his hand for the entire season in order to maintain the chemical-burn-idea?

Oh, yeh, and by the way... Jack got out of that risky situation WAY too fast. Granted, the drones will launch in under two hours, plus we don't know how long the rescue mission will take, but did Jack really just go from captured to freed in under five minutes?

Dan

[Pengin4192]

Does anyone else think that the Silver Spoons guy is a terrible actor? At least on this show.

[DMBtheStoned]

great episode!

[bdfresh62]

Wow!

[HolyCow]

Good stuff. I was happy to see something go their way.

And Jack taking that guy's gun was awesome.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Decent episode tonight. Though it was a bit bland until the last 20 minutes. I thought the scene with Charles and Martha was very tense and well done. I was very surprised that she actually did stab him, for sure...thought the end was really rushed, though. The whole assault on the consulate was really quick, a bit cheesy...seemed like they really were trying to get that action into the episode when it wasn't needed. This was a solid one without the action at the end, and that sort of ruined it for me.

[UNC41]

Martha stabbing Charles was a horrible plot twist. We've already had an attempted presidential assassination. Now we get this. :BANG

[boiii]

the 24 writers are slacking more every episode.
the show used to be spot on and well researched, and i loved it, not anymore.

last night--
the following takes place between 6-7pm:

..when they tried to call anya in moscow they had to wait because she
was giving a speech. someone forgot to do the math, because it was
taking place between 4-5am moscow time. who gives a speech then.

fucking 24 writers.

cheers.
ken

[joepsu0985]

Pretty good episode. Glad Aaron is back. Who is the tool running CTU? I dont like him, he just looks weak. Im definatly liking how they are tying in this season with the last. Bringing the Suborozvs (sp.) was pretty cool. Martha stabbing Logan was pretty intense. I love the fact that she didnt give on up on thinking he was "the worst criminal in the history of the country" He was behind Palmer's assignation, defiantly my favorite 24 character. That bastard.

Also, I didnt know those drones were capable of carrying anything like a nuke. Who knows, should get interesting.

So, these drones are not able to be spotted correct? How the hell will we stop them? And if we dont, and the world believes that Assad(sp) tried to kill the President, do we strike the countries we believe are behind the terrorist group? That would be insane if there was an all out nuclear war this season. First, we have a nuke go off in LA, then Curtis dying. Good stuff this year

[joepsu0985]

the 24 writers are slacking more every episode.
the show used to be spot on and well researched, and i loved it, not anymore.

last night--
the following takes place between 6-7pm:

..when they tried to call anya in moscow they had to wait because she
was giving a speech. someone forgot to do the math, because it was
taking place between 4-5am moscow time. who gives a speech then.

fucking 24 writers.

cheers.
ken

Yeah i thought that was a little weird myself.

[??????]

im glad people in crime shows dont know they can still fire a weapon if someone grabs your wrists, and if they are in front of them.

i wouldve pumped jack with at least 2-3 bullets before he felled to the ground. im glad russians dont know this.

[??????]

and im glad they made the boy acting wonder come off as an asshole right from the start. and then later assault someone with just a little warning.

and damn if i wasnt screaming "STAB HIM, STAB HIM!!!!" for a few minutes there, and it finally happened. such gratification.

[??????]

and is it just me or was it slick how Tom only agreed that their was a witness, instead of stating outright it was him who was the witness? slick.

[dmblynny]

Totally knew Martha was gonna stab Charles as soon as I saw her verociously cut up the kiwi. I wonder how poor Aaron deals with her... not saying I don't like her... but she is very unstable. I guess we all are in our own little ways, especially after all she's been thru.

Interesting episode... it seems as tho the nuke will be detonated next week and the scumbag we call the VP will rule an assault on whatever country Asad was from... damn him!!! I was so hoping Lennox would pull what he did with Chad Lowe and his little heathen friend again and admit the truth but whatever...


I'm betting President Wayne Palmer wakes up before all this chaos ensues and we start WWIII... I just have this feeling...

[joepsu0985]

There is no way the writers will be starting WWIII, it would ruin the show.

[dobyblue]

That was the best overall episode I've ever seen Callery do.
Some of those pulsing bass lines were just awesome and very suspenseful.
Amazing job.

[tankdan]

NOW I remember where I've seen Tom Lennox before! On Bravo right now is Ghostbusters II, and that actor is the weird doctor in that movie!

Also, it turns out he was Renfield in "Dracula: Dead and Loving It," which I also now remember.

I hope he becomes a good character now that he's turned the corner.

Dan

[tankdan]

Soooo... Happy 24 Day, lurkers.

Say 'aye' if you think Logan will die in tonight's episode...

AYE.

Dan

[Ev42]

have to say no

[bdfresh62]

I don't think Logan will die. There are a ton of assassination attempts on presidents in this show. I really think the writers need to abandon this angle. I mean:

S1: Assassination attempt on Sen. Palmer
S2: Assassination attempt on President Palmer in last episode
S3: Nothing I believe
S4: Air Force One blown out of air when President Keeler was in it
S5: President Palmer assasinated in 1st episode
S6: Attempted assassination on President Wayne Palmer; President Logan stabbed

[Bron Yr Aur]

Weak. Sauce. Where have I heard that plot line before...oh yeah, Season 2

[dreamingtreeIU]

so what are the main points i missed last week, im watching it right now, but kind of confused

[clayj41]

Audrey...:(

[Pengin4192]

Whoa! A mole in CTU! Never saw that coming :rolleyes ;)

[tankdan]

Well I'm glad Jack took point on that mission, or Doyle and the regular agents might have hand their hands full... with THREE goons. HAHAH, what a joke. Three bad guys. I could take down three bad guys. However, I am glad that they didn't repeat the first explosion and have the pilot set off the bomb when CTU got there or even have the bomb go off when it crash landed.

It kind of sucks that the radiation leaked, but I guess they needed to give the VP something to work with.

Kind of makes me want to buy a flight simulater...

And no word on Logan, weird!

Poor Audrey, that's such a shame. So when will Jack's vengence hunt begin, this season or next season?

Dan

[dmblynny]

WOWWWWWWWW... I still have goosebumps. Just got done watching the show and I am in shock...

I am so sad about Audrey... :( Poor Jack... he can't seem to win with the women he loves and that breaks my heart cause he does so much for so many. I was happy, however, to see him running the show again...

and the VP Daniels needs to get booted ~ I am so nervous to see what happens w/ Wayne next week... why is Daniels on such a mission to retaliate against the Middle East, that's what I wanna know. Lennox better keep speaking up to help out Karen... I was happy to see that... man!!! What a great episode... IS IT NEXT MONDAY YET???

and I think Jack's vengence mission will begin at the end of this season... we'll see, tho... :rolleyes

[Bron Yr Aur]

Ehhhhhh it was okay.

Some good points, some bad points....

[Trippin4136]

Mediocre at best. They would have been better served to have the nuke detonate IMO.

The drone pilot is 3 blocks from CTU? Give me a break....

Not one mention of a former President being murdered by his ex-wife?

Jack knows how to fly a drone (despite it crashing)?

Another mole using someone else's system to feed terrorists? Hmm...Season 2 & 4 ring a bell?

IMO, the only thing even remotely interesting is how Audrey was killed and who ordered it. Graham? Phillip? Someone else in the gov't? What the U.S. gave up to get Jack and how the gov't conspiracy will be uncovered is the only thing piquing my interest. The nukes, Gredenko, Fayed, who gives a shit. It's worn out. The ineptitude of CTU just pisses me off.

I love 24. But this season is seriously slacking basically from the start minus maybe half a dozen shock moments.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Mediocre at best. They would have been better served to have the nuke detonate IMO.

The drone pilot is 3 blocks from CTU? Give me a break....

Not one mention of a former President being murdered by his ex-wife?

Jack knows how to fly a drone (despite it crashing)?

Another mole using someone else's system to feed terrorists? Hmm...Season 2 & 4 ring a bell?

IMO, the only thing even remotely interesting is how Audrey was killed and who ordered it. Graham? Phillip? Someone else in the gov't? What the U.S. gave up to get Jack and how the gov't conspiracy will be uncovered is the only thing piquing my interest. The nukes, Gredenko, Fayed, who gives a shit. It's worn out. The ineptitude of CTU just pisses me off.

I love 24. But this season is seriously slacking basically from the start minus maybe half a dozen shock moments.

This was my main issue with the whole thing...it's always Jack who has to be the one to save the day...I mean, earlier he's defusing the bomb, and even though they've shown him flying planes/helicopters on the show before, you think CTU would bring a specialist in to take over the controls...it's just stupid that it has to be Jack saving the day with EVERYTHING.

[Bartender84]

Something's fishy about Audrey's death. I think she's still alive, and the Chinese have her.

[tankdan]

Is whatsherface really a mole? Could it be Milo? Or could it REALLY be a misunderstanding, i.e. the terrorists hacked into the site (which happens at least every other hour on this show...).

Dan

[Trippin4136]

here's my theory about Audrey...

She is in fact alive, in China, and she is what was traded for Jack's release one way or another or was set up by Graham, or Phillip or someone in the gov't. The premise of the 24 Movie (scheduling to be released after S7) will be Jack going back to China to find Audrey.

[trippingant]

When Audrey learned what happened to Jack, she voluntarily sacrificed herself in return for Jack's release by claiming responsibility for the Chinese consulate's death as a representative of the D.O.D. The Chinese or someone in the U.S. government either made it look like she was dead so Jack wouldn't go back looking for her or she really was killed in a U.S. government conspiracy to make sure she didn't give up any secrets.

That's my theory anyway.

[Trippin4136]

^^^

Interesting. That could be a possibility as well. Actually, that's a damn good one.

[bdfresh62]

Yeah my dad thinks she's still alive. I don't know. I think she is actually dead. I do not think Nadia is the mole. Its too cliche. I think the terrorists hacked into CTU or something.

[DMBCubs25]

Karen Hayes: What happened Tom did you fall down the stairs?
Tom Lennox: No Karen I tripped over your ineptitude

by far the best line of yesterdays epsiode, nothing beats tom lennox

[bdfresh62]

Karen Hayes: What happened Tom did you fall down the stairs?
Tom Lennox: No Karen I tripped over your ineptitude

by far the best line of yesterdays epsiode, nothing beats tom lennox

:lol

Yeah I forgot about that. That was a good one.

[icanfeeltherain]

Karen Hayes: What happened Tom did you fall down the stairs?
Tom Lennox: No Karen I tripped over your ineptitude

by far the best line of yesterdays epsiode, nothing beats tom lennox

i thought the exact same :lol:lol

[monkeyman]

I can't believe there are still 18 more hours left this season.

[Bartndrpleez]

I can't believe there are still 18 more hours left this season.

18?! What are you smoking? :lol

There's only 10 episodes left this season. The last episode was #14 on the season.

[monkeyman]

18?! What are you smoking? :lol

There's only 10 episodes left this season. The last episode was #14 on the season.

Not according to the description of "the 24um."

[tankdan]

Not according to the description of "the 24um."

Well I don't know what description you are talking about. There are TEN episodes left in the season. Heck, they showed four episodes in two days back in January, which would leave 20 episodes left from the END of January. Your math just doesn't add up.

Anyway... Who wants to take a vote on whether or not Audrey is alive?

I say DEAD.

Dan

[Ev42]

alive

[joepsu0985]

There will be 2 two hour episodes to end the season as always im guessing. On Sunday and then on monday.

[Bron Yr Aur]

As far as this season goes, she's dead. Who knows, they could change the story for successive seasons if they want to bring her back, but she left for some other show, I thought, so I think they just had to kill her off to tie up the loose end.

[jaytherevelator]

:twenty4 here's my theory about Audrey...

She is in fact alive, in China, and she is what was traded for Jack's release one way or another or was set up by Graham, or Phillip or someone in the gov't. The premise of the 24 Movie (scheduling to be released after S7) will be Jack going back to China to find Audrey.

Are they really making a movie, i heard a rumor once, but didnt know it was a done deal...

[tankdan]

I always forget where we left off... Was it just the VP ordering the nuclear launch?

Dan

[Bron Yr Aur]

The whole thought that Wayne could resume duties is ridiculous.

Other than that, this episode was quite good, I thought. I was actually surprised by some of the events that transpired...

[bdfresh62]

I liked this episode. I'm really starting to like Tom Lennox. Also nice to see the more friendlier side of Jack when he was dealing with Brady.

I'm also liking the fact that my dad bought a Bose speaker system, and watching 24 on it was AWESOME.

[bradshaw06]

something actually went right for jack tonight when they caught gredenko

[tankdan]

Tonight's episode was really great, the first time in a long time that almost EVERYTHING went right for CTU.

And I agree, Jack's emotional side with Brady was really awesome. It's also cool how Brady did everything right, good for him!

Most importantly... Do the writers think that we have never seen any of the previous seasons? I just can't understand justifying the use of another "25th amendment coup," "mole breach inside CTU," and "oops I shot the henchman in a vital area of the body and now he died" story line.

Can we please please please do something different.

P.S. Wayne should have told Noah to put him on speaker phone so everyone could here. It shouldn't take too long for them to call back Wayne and find out he's okay, but Noah could also just take control unilaterally.

Dan

[dmblynny]

I didn't get to see the entire episode, I have it TiVoed @ home but I saw the end and can't believe they're pulling this 25th amendment shit again... and even the CTU mole... more when I see the episode tho.

[Bartender84]

There wasn't even a mole in CTU, so I don't see what the problem is with that. And we have no idea how the 25th ammendment thing is going to play out yet, so it's too early to call it a copy of season 2. There's 9 hours left in the season, way too early to whine and complain.

[Trippin4136]

There wasn't even a mole in CTU, so I don't see what the problem is with that. And we have no idea how the 25th ammendment thing is going to play out yet, so it's too early to call it a copy of season 2. There's 9 hours left in the season, way too early to whine and complain.

Really? I'd say after 66% of the season there is plenty of room to find faults in the season. I think a lot of these season has been garbage. Last night's episode had a 20 minute gap of awful writing between Brady and the Milo/Nadia affair.

Fayed and Gredenko's infighting was the best of that whole episode. THAT is what they should have built up more in the storyline. Not who has the hots for who around CTU.

Now we have this lame infighting between Doyle and the new guy? Come on. I expect better out of the 24 writers.

I keep waiting for the fluff in the storyline to disappear, yet every hour, here they come filling it right back up.

[DynastyDrummer1]

I keep waiting for the fluff in the storyline to disappear, yet every hour, here they come filling it right back up.

if your that upset about it, here's an easy solution...

turn it off...

[Bron Yr Aur]

Really? I'd say after 66% of the season there is plenty of room to find faults in the season. I think a lot of these season has been garbage. Last night's episode had a 20 minute gap of awful writing between Brady and the Milo/Nadia affair.

Fayed and Gredenko's infighting was the best of that whole episode. THAT is what they should have built up more in the storyline. Not who has the hots for who around CTU.

Now we have this lame infighting between Doyle and the new guy? Come on. I expect better out of the 24 writers.

I keep waiting for the fluff in the storyline to disappear, yet every hour, here they come filling it right back up.

I'm going to go ahead and agree with this statement. HOWEVER, at least they made Doyle the good guy for once, and Wayne didn't fucking die. That would've been the easy way out.

They need, NEED to write at least an outline for the season beforehand. It's like they make every episode with no idea themselves of what's going to happen 4-5 eps down the line.

They should've put more emphasis on Fayed/Gredenko the past 4-6 episodes, and they should've introduced Brady and the other guy a few episodes ago, so we could see where their storyline was going....

[Trippin4136]

if your that upset about it, here's an easy solution...

turn it off...

Jeez, thanks for the suggestion. :rolleyes

I'm not going to turn it off. It still remains one of my favorite shows, but it simply is not as compelling or creative as it once was thanks to a lot of shoddy writing.

[trippingant]

This week's episode was not very good. Even laughable at parts. Bringing Wayne back was a good move, but now after all that all of a sudden he's fine and ready to continue his duties? I don't think so. The whole Nadia thing was pointless and completely anti-climactic, and then the part with Milo was just ridiculous. She just went through a horrible ordeal, all of a sudden is reinstated (which she accepted way too easily btw), and Milo thinks its a good time to put the moves on her? It just wasn't believable. On top of all that, Gredenko was way too eager to cooperate, and when he made his demands Jack just stood there like a fool. Oh and did everyone just forget about Logan being stabbed by Martha? And whatever happened to Papa Bauer? Maybe it'll all come together in the end, but things better start happening quick.

Does anyone else notice that the show is becoming less and less about Jack? He's the main reason I love the show in the first place. This season is disappointingly lacking classic badass Jack Bauer moments. I hope the writers aren't slowly weening him out for good.

[junior94]

Alrighty 24 geekboys, lay down the towels and prepare to splooge :p

Your Princess Chloe (aka Mary Lynn Rajskub) made it to the cover of a magazine in an almost Lara Croft-esque get up...

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32094


Funny thing, yes I always agreed I thought she was pretty cute (I know she lookd pretty damn good in that one 2 page photo with her and Kiefer in EW recently), but ironically I don't think it's displayed very well here, she's got a rather strange facial expression happening.

But hey, I remember seeing this gal live at The Improv, the only time I ever went there during when I used to live in LA (Janeane Garofalo was headlining) and as one of the like 5-6 opening acts, Mary Lynn was part of a 2 girl pairing called "The Girls Guitar Club", where it was almost a Steven Lynch-type thing where they both played acoustic guitars and intermixed telling jokes in story form and then singing some verses here and there. I can't recall who the other girl was, but miss Chloe was looking pretty good even back then (this I wanna say was probably no later than 2001).

[tankdan]

No, nothing about Chloe O'Brien is attractive.

And let me be the first to wish everyone a HAPPY 24 DAY!!!

Dan

[ProudestAnt]

Throwback to season 3 with Chase...

[Ev42]

Chloe is attractive

[ProudestAnt]

This show got fucking stupid on us in one night. What the fuck just happened?




Chloe is not attractive...

[clayj41]

So, Palmer turned out to be a tool as well....ridiculous!

[Mel4AU]

No, nothing about Chloe O'Brien is attractive.

And let me be the first to wish everyone a HAPPY 24 DAY!!!

Dan

She was pretty hot when she shot those guys in...season 3...can't remember which season, but when she was at the house.

And wow. So why did Gredenko do that to Fayed?

[Tiduwho]

She was pretty hot when she shot those guys in...season 3...can't remember which season, but when she was at the house.

And wow. So why did Gredenko do that to Fayed?

Well, as long as he did die, it was a last minute repentence. Hats off to him.

[bdfresh62]

Uhmm...what a weird episode. I don't really know what to say about that one.

[Mel4AU]

Well, as long as he did die, it was a last minute repentence. Hats off to him.

Agreed. But did he really need to chop his arm off? That was gross. I don't like loose limbs. :gag

And what was with the big transmitter device thing? Couldn't they've used an in-ear thing like they've always done?

[bradshaw06]

that bar scene was awesome

[Mel4AU]

Alrighty 24 geekboys, lay down the towels and prepare to splooge :p

Your Princess Chloe (aka Mary Lynn Rajskub) made it to the cover of a magazine in an almost Lara Croft-esque get up...

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32094


Funny thing, yes I always agreed I thought she was pretty cute (I know she lookd pretty damn good in that one 2 page photo with her and Kiefer in EW recently), but ironically I don't think it's displayed very well here, she's got a rather strange facial expression happening.

But hey, I remember seeing this gal live at The Improv, the only time I ever went there during when I used to live in LA (Janeane Garofalo was headlining) and as one of the like 5-6 opening acts, Mary Lynn was part of a 2 girl pairing called "The Girls Guitar Club", where it was almost a Steven Lynch-type thing where they both played acoustic guitars and intermixed telling jokes in story form and then singing some verses here and there. I can't recall who the other girl was, but miss Chloe was looking pretty good even back then (this I wanna say was probably no later than 2001).

Totally just saw this. I think she looks pretty cute. Not all jowly like normal.

[Tiduwho]

Agreed. But did he really need to chop his arm off? That was gross. I don't like loose limbs. :gag

And what was with the big transmitter device thing? Couldn't they've used an in-ear thing like they've always done?

He would have just ditched it that much easily?

[Mel4AU]

He would have just ditched it that much easily?

True, but still. It was clunky.

[dmblynny]

She was pretty hot when she shot those guys in...season 3...can't remember which season, but when she was at the house.

And wow. So why did Gredenko do that to Fayed?
I thought that was a great idea on Gredenko's part. I wonder where this is all gonna go and if they're gonna realize his body is being eaten by fishies before the season's end...


And my ? of the night is when is Tom Lennox going to grow his balls back and tell his President the truth about his assasination attempt???

[dmblynny]

Shit, I think I may have to put my foot in my mouth about Lennox cuz I've read a few things and being that I didn't see the entire episode... there could be more to Lennox than I know. DAMMIT!!!! Sorry guys...

I have to watch the whole thing when I get a chance to...

[ant_marching41]

why does it take me this long in the season to rediscover this thread? WHY?

anywho, very strange episode indeed. I really hope they don't kill off fayed and the last villan of the season is that #2 man that was introduced tonight.

what the fuck is goin on with this president? complete 360, outta no where? im very interested in seeing how this turns out.

i have a feeling that they'll discover gredenko early in next week and some random field agent will call bill, and that would be that. no big deal.

i guess thats it, next week looks insane. but dont worry kiddies, jacks wearing his vest... i think...

and where the fuck is LOGAN???

[Bron Yr Aur]

I actually have to say that was one of the best episodes all season. It was actually, *gasp*, unpredictable! I thought all of the stuff in the bunker was really well done. Very tense and well-written. Yeah, the 25th amendment thing has been done before, but it was done much better on this episode. And how about that last part of the episode....they did a very good job with the way they shot that whole part on the pier...and hacking off Gredenko's arm?? Again, it's been sort of done before, but it was dark, and 24 hasn't gone that far in a while. And I'd say it definitely sets up a tense episode next week. Interesting, and it seems Wayne must be affected somehow by the whole thing after all....

[ant_marching41]

my dad called the chopped arm shot 10 seconds before we saw it. i punched him in the arm. keep the predictions to yourselves is my rule.

[Bron Yr Aur]

why does it take me this long in the season to rediscover this thread? WHY?

anywho, very strange episode indeed. I really hope they don't kill off fayed and the last villan of the season is that #2 man that was introduced tonight.

what the fuck is goin on with this president? complete 360, outta no where? im very interested in seeing how this turns out.

i have a feeling that they'll discover gredenko early in next week and some random field agent will call bill, and that would be that. no big deal.

i guess thats it, next week looks insane. but dont worry kiddies, jacks wearing his vest... i think...

and where the fuck is LOGAN???

He's dead. And keep any comments about the previews out of this...or at least put them in spoiler tags. :thumbsdow

[guitarplayer554]

Uhmm...what a weird episode. I don't really know what to say about that one.


im a needle dicked faggot. not you, me, i am:monkey

[ProudestAnt]

And my ? of the night is when is Tom Lennox going to grow his balls back and tell his President the truth about his assasination attempt??? You mean by telling the FBI who was actually behind the attempt? Wait, already did that one. How about tell the president that he helped in the attempted assassination? Wait, didn't really happen. What the hell are you talking about?

[ProudestAnt]

my dad called the chopped arm shot 10 seconds before we saw it. i punched him in the arm. keep the predictions to yourselves is my rule. If you didn't see that coming as soon as they said "transmitter chip in the arm" you're a moron...

[DynastyDrummer1]

so where's jack's dad in all of this? did i miss something?

[Pengin4192]

why does it take me this long in the season to rediscover this thread? WHY?

anywho, very strange episode indeed. I really hope they don't kill off fayed and the last villan of the season is that #2 man that was introduced tonight.

what the fuck is goin on with this president? complete 360, outta no where? im very interested in seeing how this turns out.

i have a feeling that they'll discover gredenko early in next week and some random field agent will call bill, and that would be that. no big deal.

i guess thats it, next week looks insane. but dont worry kiddies, jacks wearing his vest... i think...

and where the fuck is LOGAN???
:banned


BOOOOO!!! No preview spoilers

[DMBfan41]

Alright, this season is getting rediculous. All of that adrenaline has gone to palmer's head and now he's afraid the vice president and everyone will think he's a sissy boy if he doesn't follow through with the attacks. Come on now.

And the Mylo/Nadia thing is really not needed. I don't really care about Doyle and his character. And what a crappy way to get the two villains. Gredenko leads Fayed into a bar and yells Terrorist? Come On. And Gredenko just dies in the water, great. I'm really curious whats gonna happen with these bombs. And who the next terrorist in line will be. Perhaps they'll side with South Park and get the British involved again.

And what happened to Logan? What happened to Daddy Bauer? And why did they feel the need to bring up Audrey's death last week? They should have saved that for the end and then there's your next season. 24 is really going down unfortunately.

[Trippin4136]

Alright, this season is getting rediculous. All of that adrenaline has gone to palmer's head and now he's afraid the vice president and everyone will think he's a sissy boy if he doesn't follow through with the attacks. Come on now.

And the Mylo/Nadia thing is really not needed. I don't really care about Doyle and his character. And what a crappy way to get the two villains. Gredenko leads Fayed into a bar and yells Terrorist? Come On. And Gredenko just dies in the water, great. I'm really curious whats gonna happen with these bombs. And who the next terrorist in line will be. Perhaps they'll side with South Park and get the British involved again.

And what happened to Logan? What happened to Daddy Bauer? And why did they feel the need to bring up Audrey's death last week? They should have saved that for the end and then there's your next season. 24 is really going down unfortunately.

I agree. A lot of this season has been utter fluff and crap. I do like what happened with Gradenko from Monday however. The bombs are now out there under the control of god know who. It will be interesting to see how inept CTU handles this.

"Show me your head" redeemed the episode. I just can't over how horrid and unnecessary everything that goes at CTU is.

But, any positive or cool storyline they had going this season, they've totally bailed on.

a) The Chinese comment about how the US gave up something huge for Jack
b) Jack's father and his relation to the attacks of S5/Palmer assassination.
c) Audrey's "death" - although i agree, this should have been left for the final hour or two.

I feel like they are building up to a great ending, but seriously 30 minutes of every hour is just bad writing and terrible action. It's really sad.

[F-A89]

damn i almost forgot about Jack's father. They better set this season straight before it ends with plot holes. The episode with Logan and Martha was great...now where the fvck is he and what's happening to Martha?

After being strongly against the Vice Pres' nuclear attack, Palmer's decision to launch the missle is ridiculous. :BANG

:thumbsdow

[Bron Yr Aur]

I agree. A lot of this season has been utter fluff and crap. I do like what happened with Gradenko from Monday however. The bombs are now out there under the control of god know who. It will be interesting to see how inept CTU handles this.

"Show me your head" redeemed the episode. I just can't over how horrid and unnecessary everything that goes at CTU is.

But, any positive or cool storyline they had going this season, they've totally bailed on.

a) The Chinese comment about how the US gave up something huge for Jack
b) Jack's father and his relation to the attacks of S5/Palmer assassination.
c) Audrey's "death" - although i agree, this should have been left for the final hour or two.

I feel like they are building up to a great ending, but seriously 30 minutes of every hour is just bad writing and terrible action. It's really sad.

I wouldn't say that this season is all that bad. The main problem with the show, other than the fact that they are having a difficult time coming up with new ideas, is that apparently the producers feel the need to insert an action sequence into the end of every episode to keep viewers watching. I have generally enjoyed this season, but it's annoying when many episodes have a standard format of: Presidential bunker goings-on > CTU Bullshit > Jack saves the die/action sequence ....the first few seasons were not like this.

Whatever, I still thought last week was a really solid episode. Good writing, I really liked the plot-line/events that went down, and I hope it continues.

I do disagree on your second comment (b). I thought that storyline was a hell of a lot of bullshit/trying to connect this season to the past just for the sake of being able to connect seasons. I kind of like the way they left the whole thing with Jack's father open-ended though. They can revisit it if they want, and his last episode was the best of the season.

[mr.MikeD]

finally caught up on this season. pretty fucking stupid so far. boring, pointless side stories, absurd plot elements.

the "did morris take a sip" plotline was thoroughly uninteresting, this new waffling back and forth between being a dick and helping out stinks, 45 minutes devoted to a cabinet vote was not interesting. i think they've finally run out of ideas.

and the arm cutting off thing? seriously?

[loogs91]

yeah, I've been thinking this for most of this season, but I guess it's finally time to officially chime in and say this season is nowhere near up to par with earlier ones. I really think they shot themselves last season by killing off every likable character on the show. Now when there are CTU subplots, I'm not interested, because I just odn't really care that much about karen and bill, or milo and nadia. When it was tony and michelle, and they were battling division for control, that was entertaining. And, this is even more obvious, but Wayne is a mere shadow of his brother. CTU has gotten really boring. They need to change it up a lot in season 7, as in, having Jack work alone somehow, or else the show is doomed.

[tankdan]

I saw Season One on sale at Borders for $19.99 today.

Dan

[dmblynny]

I saw Season One on sale at Borders for $19.99 today.

Dan
I got that at Target a couple months ago. I was so thrilled!

[AlpineValley804]

I finally watched the latest episode last night and all I can say is...Good God. Wayne Palmer ordering a nuclear strike is so completely out of character, it's ridiculous. What the hell are the writers thinking? It's all shock for the sake of shock. Lame, lame, lame.

This season really bites.

[tankdan]

I miss David Palmer... I still get emotional when I see an Allstate commercial.

So what do you think, are we REALLY going to nuke another country? Surely that will be one of the greatest departures from realistic situations that the writers have ever taken us. Sure, assassinations, chemical attacks, nuclear accidents... I can buy all that. But would the U.S. really nuke another country without an actual large-scale nuclear attack?

I doubt it.

Anyway, just exposing the level of my suspension of disbelief, I know it's a tv show.

Dan

[bdfresh62]

David Palmer is the voice over guy for some shows on the Military Channel

[dmblynny]

You mean by telling the FBI who was actually behind the attempt? Wait, already did that one. How about tell the president that he helped in the attempted assassination? Wait, didn't really happen. What the hell are you talking about?
Apparently you failed to read my second post. :rolleyes I DIDN'T SEE THE WHOLE EPISODE B/C I WAS AT WORK. Is that clearer for you? Did you read that ok?




I have to catch up before Monday, this is getting ridiculous!

[dmblynny]

I miss David Palmer... I still get emotional when I see an Allstate commercial.

So what do you think, are we REALLY going to nuke another country? Surely that will be one of the greatest departures from realistic situations that the writers have ever taken us. Sure, assassinations, chemical attacks, nuclear accidents... I can buy all that. But would the U.S. really nuke another country without an actual large-scale nuclear attack?

I doubt it.

Anyway, just exposing the level of my suspension of disbelief, I know it's a tv show.

Dan
I miss him so much. He'd be so disappointed in his brothers actions...

I really don't se us nuking the country, I feel like the whole Russia's part of this ordeal has to co