Official 24 Discussion (Greatest Show Ever)

[The Sean]

this will be brought back on October 28th.

woo third season!

[dm40band]

i was wondering when someone was gonna make one of these.... good job!!! can't wait for the 3rd season...

[Mark]

i want to start watching this. am i going to be completely lost if i haven't seen any of the first 2 seasons?

[seantrantham]

Maybe...I'm sure that we can update you to the most important parts...want to be filled in?

[Matt]

Mark - time is short, but you still have a shot. Go out and buy Season 1 and 2 DVDs. Find someone who has them if you don't wanna drop the loot - but trust me it's worth it and then some. That's 48 episodes in a week. You can do it. 7 a day. 40 mins an episode (without commercials). 7*40=280 mins. A little under 5 hours per day. Do it man ;)

[Mark]

oh man. i would so love to do that. hrm. maybe i will rent them this weekend. :) my wife will be out of town so i will have lots of spare time.

[FPrefect61]

My friends and I are desperately trying to finish the first two seasons by the time season 3 starts. We're 13 hours into the first day. We may need to have a marathon session during the weekend.

Damn World Series taking up all of my time. :lol

[Alix]

I can't wait for 24 to start .... it's taking forever!

[Dancing Ants]

does everyone know where it starts? 3 years after the end of season 2. and Jack has a partner! what is that? he's the man who works by himself!

and Kim works at CTU. Rriiggghhttt...

This is going to be good, if I can get used to all of the new stuff...

[Matt]

I can't wait until they bust out Jack's secret. I think I accidentally read what it was on the 24um. :(

[Spicy McHaggis]

Can't wait.

Here's a banner I made:

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~jmurphy/images/24banner1.jpg

[Rob D]

this should be good stuff. i had just bought the first season on dvd when raleigh got nailed with that ice storm in dec that shut down the city for 5 days. i luckily had power and the time on my hands to watch all 24 episodes. i just bought the second season on dvd last week for $36 brand new. i need to get on my horse if i plan on watch the 3rd season in real time. i also have dvr if i can't make it. i'll just have the 3rd season waiting on my dvr...can't wait.

[JonTheRvelator]

Originally posted by Matt
Mark - time is short, but you still have a shot. Go out and buy Season 1 and 2 DVDs. Find someone who has them if you don't wanna drop the loot - but trust me it's worth it and then some. That's 48 episodes in a week. You can do it. 7 a day. 40 mins an episode (without commercials). 7*40=280 mins. A little under 5 hours per day. Do it man ;)

Well worth it...

[Matt]

I want to talk about the possibilities for S3, but there are obviously going to be spoilers for S1 and S2 in here if we do. Should I rename the thread to note this?

[bdfresh62]

Oh yeah I can't wait. This is gonna rock. Who wants to take me up on a bet that Kim either a.) gets kidnapped or b.) gets lost or something. Thats the only thing I don't like about this show. The Kim factor is predictable.

[Mark]

i am going to have to time to watch season 1 and 2. someone needs to give me the Readers Digest version of them

[JonTheRvelator]

Originally posted by Matt
I want to talk about the possibilities for S3, but there are obviously going to be spoilers for S1 and S2 in here if we do. Should I rename the thread to note this?

Yeah watch out people are going to end up putting spoilers in here Matt.

[DMBeener]

Originally posted by Mark
i am going to have to time to watch season 1 and 2. someone needs to give me the Readers Digest version of them

*SPOILERS*

season 1 - http://www.fox.com/24/season1/home.html
season 2 - http://www.fox.com/24/index2.htm

click on episode guide :)

[Matt]

Mark, are you positive you want the readers digest of S1 and 2? I can write up something for you if you really think you wanna know and you aren't going to have time to catch them before S3.

EDIT: Too late. Nice catch Dena. :)

[FPrefect61]

Yeah, I'm gonna back out of this, I don't want to be spoiled.

But I will be watching season 3 with all y'all. :D

[Mark]

i know for sure i won't have time to watch it :(

[JonTheRvelator]

That sucks because some of the moments where you see that digital clock have such effect. Its such a brilliant idea. I LOVE IT!!!

[DMBeener]

last time I checked, I wasn't "Dayna" :p

Mark, those episode guides I linked should be helpful enough so you understand season 3.

[DMBeener]

Originally posted by JonTheRvelator
That sucks because some of the moments where you see that digital clock have such effect. Its such a brilliant idea. I LOVE IT!!!

I scream every time that damn thing comes up. I do agree that it's a great idea though...the suspense kills me!

[Mark]

yeah. i am just starting to read season 1. this is gonna take a while

[DMBeener]

it's very detailed, but that way you'll know what's going on :)

[Matt]

Mark - read up on the links Dena posted for a pretty comprehensive rundown of each episode.

Anyway - I have some really big question marks about S3 which drive me nuts, because even at this point they aren't solidly answered! They're still filming S3 and by the time the premier airs they'll still have about 10-12 more episodes to shoot, so they can adjust midway through the season based on fan feedback.

Bottom line: Nina, Mandy, Max, and the guy Max was talking to on the phone (the guy eating breakfast, I think), NEED to be involved. The whole notion of that common thread throughout the seasons that this higher-up organization has been behind it all is very, very exciting.

If anyone has seen the deleted scenes on the S2 DVD, they've noticed that there was a scene where Nina is supposed to join Max on the boat right at the very end. That in itself provides hope that they have that kind of thought in mind.

Remember the end of S1? "If you kill me, you won't know who I work for. You think I work for the Drazen's, but I don't."

And what the HELL did Jack whisper to Nina right after he escaped her holding him hostage in S2? I've been reading on Fox's message boards and it's just as much a mystery to them as well. Funny thing is, there are always one or two people who have the inside track and post info, but this is one topic that wasn't ever resolved. I really hope it plays a part in this season. If you go back and watch that scene, you can't help but sense the deliberateness of it. Something's gotta come of it.

[JonTheRvelator]

Originally posted by DMBeener
I scream every time that damn thing comes up. I do agree that it's a great idea though...the suspense kills me!

I know what you mean. Then when you find there is a cliff hanger, there is always like a three week break for like a tennis tournament! I hate that!

[JonTheRvelator]

Originally posted by Matt
Mark - read up on the links Dena posted for a pretty comprehensive rundown of each episode.

Anyway - I have some really big question marks about S3 which drive me nuts, because even at this point they aren't solidly answered! They're still filming S3 and by the time the premier airs they'll still have about 10-12 more episodes to shoot, so they can adjust midway through the season based on fan feedback.

Bottom line: Nina, Mandy, Max, and the guy Max was talking to on the phone (the guy eating breakfast, I think), NEED to be involved. The whole notion of that common thread throughout the seasons that this higher-up organization has been behind it all is very, very exciting.

If anyone has seen the deleted scenes on the S2 DVD, they've noticed that there was a scene where Nina is supposed to join Max on the boat right at the very end. That in itself provides hope that they have that kind of thought in mind.

Remember the end of S1? "If you kill me, you won't know who I work for. You think I work for the Drazen's, but I don't."

And what the HELL did Jack whisper to Nina right after he escaped her holding him hostage in S2? I've been reading on Fox's message boards and it's just as much a mystery to them as well. Funny thing is, there are always one or two people who have the inside track and post info, but this is one topic that wasn't ever resolved. I really hope it plays a part in this season. If you go back and watch that scene, you can't help but sense the deliberateness of it. Something's gotta come of it.


I lose sleep over these mysteries...

[Matt]

Originally posted by DMBeener
I scream every time that damn thing comes up. I do agree that it's a great idea though...the suspense kills me!

I love the tick. I was afraid they would change it for S2 but they stuck with it. It's intense - they have great episode endings - and they've gotten so good with it, where you even get fired up at commercial breaks as well.

Funny thing is, after S1, the producers presented Fox with two versions of the show - one that held true to the real-time form, and one that was just like any other show, ala CSI - standalone episodes. Thank god that they chose to stay with this format. That alone makes this one of the most unique and exciting dramas ever to grace television.

[DMBeener]

Originally posted by Matt
It's intense - they have great episode endings - and they've gotten so good with it, where you even get fired up at commercial breaks as well... That alone makes this one of the most unique and exciting dramas ever to grace television.

I've gotten my dad into the show now...he got confused by the ticking clock at first (he's used to watching CSI-type shows), but after I explained, he know loves it too. The commercial breaks are so intense...all the "whatifs" come into play and it's time to discuss what's gonna happen.

That last statement you made that I quoted was said perfectly. The real time format makes the show that much better and that much more intense.

[Mark]

what clock?

[DMBeener]

Since the show is in real time format, right as the show is about to go to commercial, there's a clock that shows the time (like 1:16:37) relative to the episode. It ticks a few times and then fades to commercial. Then when the commercials are over, the clock ticks a few times again and then it goes back to the show.

Commercials usually have cliffhangers that make you go hmmm for a few minutes.

Hopefully that made sense...

[JonTheRvelator]

Originally posted by Mark
what clock?


You've got a long way to go young patawan... :D

[malonestar]

Originally posted by Matt
Remember the end of S1? "If you kill me, you won't know who I work for. You think I work for the Drazen's, but I don't."

That's what I'm still hung up on. Someone keeps demanding to me that she was "working" for Joseph Wald (from S2) but it seemed to me that she was just freelancing and selling him information. I don't think that equates to "working" for him - at least from the tone it was delivered in at the end of season 1.

I really don't have any expectations for Season 3. Not because I don't care, just because I haven't had much time to think about it. In fact, I don't even think I've seen a preview yet. All I know is that I can't wait for it to start. 1 week to go.

[malonestar]

Originally posted by Mark
what clock?

See avatar :)

[Matt]

Originally posted by malonestar
That's what I'm still hung up on. Someone keeps demanding to me that she was "working" for Joseph Wald (from S2) but it seemed to me that she was just freelancing and selling him information. I don't think that equates to "working" for him - at least from the tone it was delivered in at the end of season 1.

I really don't have any expectations for Season 3. Not because I don't care, just because I haven't had much time to think about it. In fact, I don't even think I've seen a preview yet. All I know is that I can't wait for it to start. 1 week to go.

She definitely wasn't working for Wald. You're absolutely correct in your assumption - she's a freelancer, but she's from a higher-up organization.

How great was it in S2 when Wald tells Jack, "I only met her twice." I mean, at that point you obviously know who he's talking about, but it still gave me a rush.

[malonestar]

Originally posted by Matt
She definitely wasn't working for Wald. You're absolutely correct in your assumption - she's a freelancer, but she's from a higher-up organization.

How great was it in S2 when Wald tells Jack, "I only met her twice." I mean, at that point you obviously know who he's talking about, but it still gave me a rush.


And how about when they finally revealed her face on the monitor in the holding room at CTU. Good stuff.

[Matt]

Originally posted by malonestar
And how about when they finally revealed her face on the monitor in the holding room at CTU. Good stuff.

So many great emotional parts to S2 that all come together due to the character development that carries over from S1. When Palmer grants Nina the pardon for the murder of Jack Bauer, the level of emotion and mutual respect, over the phone no less, between Jack and Palmer is amazing.

[JonTheRvelator]

Originally posted by malonestar
And how about when they finally revealed her face on the monitor in the holding room at CTU. Good stuff.

My favorite part of that whole season was when we found out the was Victor Drazen, that mad me stand up off the couch!

[Mark]

damn you guys! now i am going to have to make time to watch the series. grrr... this reading the episode guide just isn't the same.

[JonTheRvelator]

Matt which is better?

S1? or S2?

[Matt]

I'm telling you Mark, if you can find the time, do it. Greatest TV show ever.

[Mark]

yeah. i will have to watch it on the weekend

[Matt]

Originally posted by JonTheRvelator
Matt which is better?

S1? or S2?

Overall, I'd have to give the nod to S1. Originality is always a factor when comparing the first two seasons of a show, but beyond that, the plot was so well done, so perfectly interwoven and balanced, with great heros and villains alike, that it just shined. S2 was spectacular as well, don't get me wrong, and it was definitely more intense than S1. However, the filler Kim subplot dragged it down a bit. If I had to rate the seasons out of 10, I'd give S1 a 10 and S2 a 9.5.

[The Sean]

i borrowed S1 dvd from my friend and watched it over the summer. that was awesome. i watched most of S2 on tv but i missed some episodes. but that show is so freakin awesome...i dont watch too much tv here in college, but this is one show i will make time for. :D

[JonTheRvelator]

Originally posted by Matt
Overall, I'd have to give the nod to S1. Originality is always a factor when comparing the first two seasons of a show, but beyond that, the plot was so well done, so perfectly interwoven and balanced, with great heros and villains alike, that it just shined. S2 was spectacular as well, don't get me wrong, and it was definitely more intense than S1. However, the filler Kim subplot dragged it down a bit. If I had to rate the seasons out of 10, I'd give S1 a 10 and S2 a 9.5.

Well said. I think the 2nd season was totally taken down by the sub-plot of Kim. The show didn't suffer from it too much though.
Which to me shows its durability when it comes to longevity and script writing.

[The Sean]

decided i can make myself an original avatar :p

[malonestar]

Originally posted by malonestar
See avatar :)

Speaking of my avatar, are there times where any of you notice the frames not advancing? I notice it all the time. I wonder if it's a bug in IE, or a bug in the actual .gif I made.

[Matt]

It's not a big in the .gif - must be an IE thing.

Man I can't wait for this season. I'm also super glad that they didn't kill off Palmer.

I always watched it w/ my friends down at college before I graduated, and when the finale of S2 was over we just looked at eachother in shock.

I was reading an interview w/ Kiefer Sutherland a couple of days ago, and him being one of the show's producers, actually suggested to the production team that if they really wanted to jar the audience, kill Jack. The rest of the group laughed at him - but he does have a point. Now note that I think 24 isn't 24 without Kiefer as Jack, but it would be a move that would stay true to the show's "no character is guaranteed" attitude.

Disclaimer: They better not do that. :)

[Dancing Ants]

*S1 and S2 SPOILERS*

here's my take on the whole "secret organization" that is behind everything....it's the government. that would be explosive, for jack to find out that he's been working to stop something that employs him. the government is doing this to keep the public's attention or something..i think we saw hints of it last season, when we learned about the Oil Guy and his plans to start a MidEast war. I think the Oil Guy works for the US Government, as does Palmer's assassin.

*END*

[Matt]

Originally posted by Dancing Ants
*S1 and S2 SPOILERS*

here's my take on the whole "secret organization" that is behind everything....it's the government. that would be explosive, for jack to find out that he's been working to stop something that employs him. the government is doing this to keep the public's attention or something..i think we saw hints of it last season, when we learned about the Oil Guy and his plans to start a MidEast war. I think the Oil Guy works for the US Government, as does Palmer's assassin.

*END*

VERY interesting theories. Brings up some great points. I was trying to get a feel for the landscape around Max when he was on the boat - or his superior when he was eating on the phone - but I couldn't make out where they possibly were.

What's weird is that Mandy's attempted assassination of Palmer was the result of "Plan B starts today." Now that was freaky. They basically have a running start going into S3, I just hope they don't drop it completely and carry on with a completely new and unrelated plot.

Kingsley might have very well worked for the government, but wouldn't somebody have heard of him? Maybe not - so that's very possible - but I think it was Kingsley who was contracted out by the "masterminds" to make sure the U.S. went to war against three innocent countries, damaging the U.S. reputation and tearing our country apart, all while paying Peter a little compensation for his troubles.

I think we can look to this higher organization, if it isn't our own government, as a multi-pronged terror group with a wide reach of ideas and means to execute them.

The Drazens obviously had ties to this group, so when they approached the group with their plans for Palmer and Bauer, the group connected the Drazens with Nina for inside intel.

Just my ideas. :)

[JonTheRvelator]

Originally posted by Dancing Ants
*S1 and S2 SPOILERS*

here's my take on the whole "secret organization" that is behind everything....it's the government. that would be explosive, for jack to find out that he's been working to stop something that employs him. the government is doing this to keep the public's attention or something..i think we saw hints of it last season, when we learned about the Oil Guy and his plans to start a MidEast war. I think the Oil Guy works for the US Government, as does Palmer's assassin.

*END*

Its totally gonna be the goverment...

[Dancing Ants]

Originally posted by Matt
VERY interesting theories. Brings up some great points. I was trying to get a feel for the landscape around Max when he was on the boat - or his superior when he was eating on the phone - but I couldn't make out where they possibly were.

What's weird is that Mandy's attempted assassination of Palmer was the result of "Plan B starts today." Now that was freaky. They basically have a running start going into S3, I just hope they don't drop it completely and carry on with a completely new and unrelated plot.

Kingsley might have very well worked for the government, but wouldn't somebody have heard of him? Maybe not - so that's very possible - but I think it was Kingsley who was contracted out by the "masterminds" to make sure the U.S. went to war against three innocent countries, damaging the U.S. reputation and tearing our country apart, all while paying Peter a little compensation for his troubles.

I think we can look to this higher organization, if it isn't our own government, as a multi-pronged terror group with a wide reach of ideas and means to execute them.

The Drazens obviously had ties to this group, so when they approached the group with their plans for Palmer and Bauer, the group connected the Drazens with Nina for inside intel.

Just my ideas. :)

Matt, have you checked out the new TV Guide for this week? It's got some good stuff in it...I *think* I read that they do keep it all connected. I don't have my TVGuide with me right now, so I can't comfirm it..

[JonTheRvelator]

That cover says "The President is Sick" I wonder what that means?

[Dancing Ants]

Kingsley also may be using an alias.

[malonestar]

Originally posted by Matt
Kingsley might have very well worked for the government, but wouldn't somebody have heard of him?

Totally off topic, but has anyone ever been curious about a link between Maria Kingsley from S1 and Kingsley from S2? Recall Maria K. was the news reporter that was going to break the story about Keith.

I've always been curious. Why use the same character name in both season? Strange.

[Dancing Ants]

Originally posted by JonTheRvelator
That cover says "The President is Sick" I wonder what that means?

in the Guide, it says that he has some scars and *muscle control problems..or something like arthritis.

*i think

[Dancing Ants]

Originally posted by malonestar
Totally off topic, but has anyone ever been curious about a link between Maria Kingsley from S1 and Kingsley from S2? Recall Maria K. was the news reporter that was going to break the story about Keith.

I've always been curious. Why use the same character name in both season? Strange.

THAT is weird. probably just a coincidence...but who knows..maybe not.

[DMBeener]

Originally posted by malonestar
Totally off topic, but has anyone ever been curious about a link between Maria Kingsley from S1 and Kingsley from S2? Recall Maria K. was the news reporter that was going to break the story about Keith.

I've always been curious. Why use the same character name in both season? Strange.

I too have been curious about this...I kinda think they're connected.

[Matt]

Yea I noticed the Maureen/Peter last name similarity and thought it was strange. I think just a coincidence, however.

I find it funny how many actors are on both The Sopranos and 24.

Tobin Bell: Peter Kingsley from 24 = Major Zwingli from the last episode of season 3 of The Sopranos.

Paul Schulze: Ryan Chappelle from 24 = Father Intintola from The Sopranos

And I SWEAR that the PI who was tortured and killed while Kate watched in Syed Ali's safehouse was Mike Palimice, Uncle Junior's right hand man from S1 of The Sopranos. I can't find the name of the actor though.

[bdfresh62]

Originally posted by JonTheRvelator
Its totally gonna be the goverment...

Does anyone else remember when Kingsley was talking with those two guys in S2. One was on a plane, the other I can't remember. But I could have sworn that they were members of the Presidents cabinet. Remember the last two people to vote on him. I believe it was those two.

[smallwaise]

i missed a few seasons and got left outta the loop from last year towards the end

i need to get the dvd's and get caught up

season 1 can't be beat though, when it turns out nina's bad, and his wife's dead, woooooooooooooow

[cavecricket34]

I'm with Mark, I need to get caught but I have no time. I'll kind of watch this season, then get the DVDs when this season's over and watch all three seasons before season 4 starts.

[Matt]

It's so great what they've done with the show because originally it was only earmarked for 13 episodes, so if the show didn't do well, they had to wrap up the storyline in 13 episodes. Kinda funny, especially since it's called '24'.

[The Sean]

24 starts in almost exactly 1 week and 22 minutes

[dm40band]

i forgot where i read this but doesn't the 3rd season have nothing to do with the 2nd??? also i heard that President Palmer's character will be diminished!!!!

[malonestar]

http://www.take24.co.uk/files/Pilot.swf

http://www.take24.co.uk/files/08.03.swf

http://www.take24.co.uk/files/08.06.swf

http://www.take24.co.uk/files/08.09.swf

http://www.take24.co.uk/files/08.15.swf

http://www.take24.co.uk/files/08.18.swf

:lol

[JonTheRvelator]

31 Hours Away.

[FPrefect61]

My friends and I finished season 1 this weekend, holy fucking shit that was amazing.

We're renting season 2 starting tonight. We'll miss the first episode of season 3 though. :( Will they show an encore performance in the next week?

[malonestar]

Originally posted by FPrefect61
My friends and I finished season 1 this weekend, holy fucking shit that was amazing.

We're renting season 2 starting tonight. We'll miss the first episode of season 3 though. :( Will they show an encore performance in the next week?

Sometimes they do that on FX. I'd suspect that they'll do it with the season opener this time. I think they did it last season. To be safe, why don't you guys just tape it...or download it and watch it whenever you're ready.

[FPrefect61]

I'll download it most likely, suprnova should have it.

[Alix]

Almost time ..I can't wait! :D

[Mark]

tom, just tape it

[FPrefect61]

Originally posted by Mark
tom, just tape it

Can't, the VCR's busted, I had to clip the power to the motor to get it to stop being possessed.

And my friends don't have a VCR

[Alix]

^ BUY ONE! :)

[Mark]

yeah. they only cost about $50

[Alix]

VCR's aren't even that much some of the time ... and if you don't have a DVD player or want a new one you could always get a dual ...they arepretty cool!

[Bartender84]

Oh man, it's tomorrow. I'm so excited!

[Dancing Ants]

yeah! i hope i get off work!

[DMBeener]

it is an absolute TRAVESTY that this thread is not on page one today!

10.5 hours left... :)

[FPrefect61]

Well, my friends and I are a season behind, and the damn DVDs are all rented out. So, I took the only other way out, I'm downloading all 24 episodes of season 2. It's gonna take a while, but dammit, I'm gonna do it!

[Alix]

I can't wait .. it's going to be great! :)

[Mark]

what times does it come on?

[DMBeener]

9pm

[Matt]

9pm I believe. I'm driving down to Siena to watch it with the boys. It's like the superbowl.

[JonTheRvelator]

Originally posted by Matt
It's like the superbowl.

Carla is making something special to eat, while we all gather around the t.v. to watch.

I'm so excited!

[Mark]

great. that is 10pm here. looks like i will have to tape it.

[Alix]

I can't wait .. I wish I still had TiVo .. that would make things so much easier!

[Matt]

I've thought about setting up my Linux box as a TiVo - all I need is a video capture card because there are plenty of open source solutions out there.

[malonestar]

I'll be watching tonight on my aunt & uncle's 65-inch HDTV :D

[smallwaise]

1 hour till showtime

yesss

[Alix]

That'd be pretty cool Matt .. its' easy enough ...

The kid I lived with before was going to install a network card in his so that he could just transfer them to his computer (don't think that happened though)

[The Sean]

less than an hour...

[The Sean]

4 minutes. stupid Joe Millionaire

[Alix]

Here we go kids! :)

[The Sean]

jacks addicted to heroin?!

oh, and that ford thing was the gayest ever

[Crumbo]

wow...alot of personal stuff going on...it's going to get interesting

[The Sean]

indeed

[Alix]

Should be interesting

[flyer3468]

I missed alot of season two but can someone tell me what the president's scar on his arm was all about. What was the whole assasination attempt? Also The Heroin?? Don't understand that at all.

[never2much41]

Originally posted by flyer3468
I missed alot of season two but can someone tell me what the president's scar on his arm was all about. What was the whole assasination attempt? Also The Heroin?? Don't understand that at all.

Season 1 was all about an assasination attempt on Palmer's life.

Not sure about the scar.

The heroin thing will most likely be revealed to us soon, but most likely, when Jack was undercover with Salazar (a drug dealer), he did heroin so as to fit in with the role he was playing. Heroin is addictive, hence Jack is now addicted to heroin.

[malonestar]

My Tuesday night's are officially booked for the next 23+ weeks.

[DMBeener]

just wow...I need a little time to digest all this

[Alix]

Yes mine are too ... I love 24

[Crumbo]

I find it interesting that they jumped ahead 3 years....gives the possibility to go back and cover those 3 years if needed.

[Dancing Ants]

I figured Jack was a Heroin addict. I'm not surprised Tony and what's-her-name are married, Kim and Chase...oo lah lah.

Also, I bet the President's Doctor Lover was a two dollar whore before she became a doctor...or she funded a terrorist organization with or without knowing it...it's going to be an awesome season.

[JonTheRvelator]

Wow. Just Wow.

Best.

Show.

Ever.

[Matt]

Yeah - that premier definitely did not disappoint. I loved every second of it - very very good. Worth the wait.

[seantrantham]

Sweet stuff...I believe the scar on Palmer's hand and arm was from the assination attempt...on the last episode when the chick shook his hand with the poison on it.

[Matt]

I can't get over how good the acting and writing complement eachother. Just from his performance in episode 1 alone Sutherland should win best actor.

Seeds were planted for the season, and they're all exciting seeds. I'm really interested in how this is all going to play out. I just hope they tie it into the first two seasons. I think they will.

[Dancing Ants]

they will....in one of the scenes in that featured President palmer, someone said...wait, it was during the rehearsal for the debate, and they ask palmer if he is fit for the job, and palmer says the stuff about lifting weights and all that, then someone says that they caught the "two men" who made the attack....so...there's something to think about.

[Matt]

Originally posted by Dancing Ants
they will....in one of the scenes in that featured President palmer, someone said...wait, it was during the rehearsal for the debate, and they ask palmer if he is fit for the job, and palmer says the stuff about lifting weights and all that, then someone says that they caught the "two men" who made the attack....so...there's something to think about.

That's very true. But Nina's still out there. :)

[JonTheRvelator]

Originally posted by Matt
I can't get over how good the acting and writing complement eachother. Just from his performance in episode 1 alone Sutherland should win best actor.

[willnole]

I just hope that this isn't another season where Kim's asinine decisions put her in peril every week.

Also, I know Fox wants more women viewers but please ENOUGH ALREADY with the relationships.

[JonTheRvelator]

^agreed. I think her character will be controlled though. She is at CTU now, so there should be no reason for her to walk into certain death. Atleast thats what I get from it.

[FPrefect61]

I need to stop reading this thread, but I can't help it!! :( I still have the second season to watch!

Can I be banned from one thread until I catch up?

[willnole]

Originally posted by JonTheRvelator
^agreed. I think her character will be controlled though. She is at CTU now, so there should be no reason for her to walk into certain death. Atleast thats what I get from it.

But we have the introduction of "psycho woman hating computer guy" who just screams "I'm gonna screw stuff up"

[JonTheRvelator]

Originally posted by willnole
But we have the introduction of "psycho woman hating computer guy" who just screams "I'm gonna screw stuff up"

:lol thats good.

I'm still worried about Jack. I want him to kick butt this season not sit around and cry about how he wants a fix. I'm sure he still will. He looked as though he was fighting it pretty well though.

[willnole]

Originally posted by JonTheRvelator
:lol thats good.

I'm still worried about Jack. I want him to kick butt this season not sit around and cry about how he wants a fix. I'm sure he still will. He looked as though he was fighting it pretty well though.

I cant wait til he stabs a bad guy in the neck with a syringe full of smack.

[malonestar]

Originally posted by Matt
I can't get over how good the acting and writing complement eachother. Just from his performance in episode 1 alone Sutherland should win best actor.

Agreed.

Seeds were planted for the season, and they're all exciting seeds. I'm really interested in how this is all going to play out. I just hope they tie it into the first two seasons. I think they will.

No question about it. I'd never even doubt it in my mind. What was up with the season finale last year?

"There isn't going to be any war, Max. The President found out about the Cyprus Recording."

"Well.....we're going to have to do this another way."

"What?"

"You'll find out...it will start today."

[Enter Mandy]

So Mandy gave Palmer a pretty bad bug, but he pretty much recovered. We can't assume that anything is over though, because of what Max said, "We're going to have to do this another way...it will start today."

Their original objective wasn't just to kill Palmer, which they didn't succeed at anyway. You have to ask yourself if death was even their objective in the first place. "It will 'start' today." They got Palmer, but it was just the start. Foreshadowing of some biohazard/virus.

Another thing I just realized:

Exactly WHAT was the objective of starting the war in Season 2????? It was hinted that Kingsley wanted the war to start so the value of his oil holdings would triple. Good reason, but Kingsley was obviously just another pawn being used from an order higher than him. So what was their reason for wanting the war? I think it's safe to assume that their objective is still being sought after in this season.

[haildmb]

i still say this show is way overhyped

[The Sean]

ok, so how many people died in this episode.
the lawyer = 1

i cant remember any more right now


i want to keep track of a body count during this season

[willnole]

Don't forget the guy who got the virus

[The Sean]

ok 2

[willnole]

And you KNOW that they're going to secure the bag of coke around hour 5 or 6 but the stupid kid will probably keep a couple grams for himself and fuck everything up.

[The Sean]

indeed. that and one or both of them will probably die. that duo will probably be like the guys in season 1.


idk if im likin the new CTU people. kim, adam, chloe? piss me off

[Alix]

It's still gonna be good ... something to watch on TV every week finally! :)

[Crumbo]

Originally posted by willnole
I just hope that this isn't another season where Kim's asinine decisions put her in peril every week.

Also, I know Fox wants more women viewers but please ENOUGH ALREADY with the relationships.

[Matt]

But that ending - with Jack and the needle. Talk about sitting on the edge of your chair.

malonestar - I agree. They planted too much thought at the end of day 2 to just let it dissolve. I loved how they kept the "higher organization" feel to it, and I hope that this season is just another fascet of it.

[FPrefect61]

Enough, enough, ban me from this thread, I don't want to read anymore! :(

[cavecricket34]

I have to admit, this didn't really intrigue me all that much. It just seemed like another boring movie (which I'm not big on), though it did have some wierd scenes. Maybe it's because I missed the first two seasons - anyone care to give me a quick synopsis?

[willnole]

My thought was that it might not have been heroin in the needle.

I never saw him cook anything and it looked like he got whatever it was from a vial.

I'm thinking that maybe he's taking methedone (sp.) to quit the heroin and now is obviously trying to kick the methedone habit.

[malonestar]

Originally posted by willnole
My thought was that it might not have been heroin in the needle.

I never saw him cook anything and it looked like he got whatever it was from a vial.

I'm thinking that maybe he's taking methedone (sp.) to quit the heroin and now is obviously trying to kick the methedone habit.

A huge percentage of people don't have that insight though, so I doubt that's what they're going with the story. Besides, Chase said something like "I know what they did to you...so do what you have to do to get through today."

Anyone ever see Narc? Same kind of story. Undercover agents get hooked on the drugs that are around them so they blend in and retain their cover.

[Dancing Ants]

yeah...but Jack *also* has that heart problem or whatever that resulted from the interrogation last season. I wonder if Jack will die and Chase will replace him as main character...it was said after S1 that Keifer didn't want to do many more seasons...

@ cavecricket: you need to watch seasons 1 and 2. of course it'll be boring if you don't know what's going down..and something *is* going to go down.

[Matt]

I read that in the first few episodes of this season that there will be a plot peak unlike anything ever done on TV before. I can't wait. :)

[DMBeener]

Originally posted by Dancing Ants
I wonder if Jack will die and Chase will replace him as main character...it was said after S1 that Keifer didn't want to do many more seasons...

Kiefer has stated in a few of the interviews that have been on tv the past few days that he wants to do the show as long as he can.

[Spicy McHaggis]

Originally posted by Matt
But that ending - with Jack and the needle. Talk about sitting on the edge of your chair.

malonestar - I agree. They planted too much thought at the end of day 2 to just let it dissolve. I loved how they kept the "higher organization" feel to it, and I hope that this season is just another fascet of it.
That scene was gripping. Best drama I've seen in a while.

I still think Nina and Mandy work for Germany who wants to bring down the U.S. from the inside.

[willnole]

If Keifer leaves I'd much rather watch a show about Tony than Chase

[Mark]

ok. i just watched the premier. this was the first episode i have ever seen and i just have one thing to say




























holy fucking shit! easily the best hour of TV i have EVER watched.

[Mark]

i am really really really sorry i missed the first 2 seasons

[silent]

Originally posted by DMBeener
Kiefer has stated in a few of the interviews that have been on tv the past few days that he wants to do the show as long as he can.

He's also stated that it would be interesting if Jack died to keep the plot lines varied enough to keep the show interesting.

[Bartender84]

What an awesome premier. I definitely think this will eventually tie into the overall plot.

I was worried about Kim working at CTU, but it turned out believable.

[Matt]

Originally posted by Mark
ok. i just watched the premier. this was the first episode i have ever seen and i just have one thing to say

holy fucking shit! easily the best hour of TV i have EVER watched.

See? I love reading stuff like this. Sure, there are other good shows on TV, but show me a series where people get this excited about it and proclaim that it is the best they've EVER seen. I don't think you'll find anything else like it. The people who know the show know how good it is, and that makes me happy to see. Here's hoping that 24 gets its due credit this year.

[Mark]

i was able to understand most of it from reading this thread. one question i do have tho, is who is the blonde hair kid who brought the dope across the border?

[Matt]

Originally posted by Mark
i was able to understand most of it from reading this thread. one question i do have tho, is who is the blonde hair kid who brought the dope across the border?

No one, really. He's new this season. Just a role player due to the situation.

[Mark]

so, bauer got hooked on heroine ? how?

[Dancing Ants]

Bauer was in Mexico, hunting down the Spanish guy that killed the lawyer. to get close to him, he had to do stuff...stuff like Heroin. So now he's addicted. We think...it'll be cleared up later on, i'm sure.

[Matt]

The encore is on tonight at 9 on FOX. Keep in mind though, that they will have commercials so there will be a couple of "non-essential" scenes cut out to make up for it.

I for one will be watching it again.

[Mark]

is it always commercial free?

[Dancing Ants]

no, it is commercial friendly for the rest of the season...though the finale might be free.

[FPrefect61]

Finally got a hold of season 2 last night, got through 3 episodes, doing another 3 tonight, then finishing it by Sunday, watching the first hour of this season on Monday, then we'll finally be up to par. I can't wait. :D

[The Sean]

Originally posted by FPrefect61
Finally got a hold of season 2 last night, got through 3 episodes, doing another 3 tonight, then finishing it by Sunday, watching the first hour of this season on Monday, then we'll finally be up to par. I can't wait. :D
niiiiiice. you wont regret it

[Matt]

Season 2 was more intense than the first, although I feel that overall, S1 was better. Season 2 still rocked, though. From the looks of it, S3 will be amazing as well.

[malonestar]

Originally posted by Matt
Season 2 was more intense than the first, although I feel that overall, S1 was better. Season 2 still rocked, though. From the looks of it, S3 will be amazing as well.

I definitely agree with that. There was something about season 2 that I don't think they'll ever match. It had such an astute feeling to it since you saw the govt. dealing with such carnal issues like national terrorism and world war. And Matt, the scene you always point out - Kim on the phone with Jack while he's flying the nuke out into the desert --- wow, period. And when the bomb finally goes off --- no words suffice.

S1 was better though. You can never top the original! I've got the highest of hopes for S3 though.

[malonestar]

The encore is on right now. Fox.

[bdfresh62]

S1 kicked ass. S2 kicked ass. S3 will kick ass.

[malonestar]

Wayne, Palmer's new right-hand man, is his brother. Just picked that up. Jack thinks Salazar's brother is running things now. 2 sets of brothers...mean anything to anyone?

[DMBfan41]

saw the encore tonight. It looks like its gonna be an awesome day! Jack's a druggie now, hope he gets away from it all

[FPrefect61]

Originally posted by steinauf85
niiiiiice. you wont regret it

11 episodes left, holy crap!

I've noticed that there are some characters you just want to get killed. Jack's wife in season 1 was like that, she was way too annoying. Kim's like this in season 2. She's definitely hot, but so friggin' stupid...

[FPrefect61]

Originally posted by Matt
So many great emotional parts to S2 that all come together due to the character development that carries over from S1. When Palmer grants Nina the pardon for the murder of Jack Bauer, the level of emotion and mutual respect, over the phone no less, between Jack and Palmer is amazing.

Just to bring this old post back. I saw this episode yesterday, and started tearing up. :(

[The Sean]

i heard tuesdays episode will be 2 hours long. can anyone confirm or deny?

[Dancing Ants]

Originally posted by steinauf85
i heard tuesdays episode will be 2 hours long. can anyone confirm or deny?

that is a false report. they are doing last Tuesday's episode (episode 1 for those of you who don't know) from 7:00-8:00pm, then they are doing ep.2 from 8:00-9:00.

[FPrefect61]

5 hours of season 2 to go, woohoo!!! :D

[Chris Pye]

Anyone know where I can get a synopsis of day 3 so far?

In fact, surely they'll be releasing the scripts on line or otherwise pretty soon, wont they?


Chris
www.santacarla.co.uk
www.mp3.com/santacarla
www.cdbaby.com/santacarla

[malonestar]

I thought I'd share this full quality .gif that I made for your "right click-->save picture as" enjoyment.

http://home.att.net/~curtisml/24Full02.gif

[FPrefect61]

And we finished!! Holy shit, best show I've ever seen, hands down, no contest.

One question, is the girl that tried to kill Palmer at the end of season 2 the same girl that blew up the plane in season 1?

[Alix]

Thank god I don't work on Tues nights! :)

[Bartender84]

Originally posted by FPrefect61
And we finished!! Holy shit, best show I've ever seen, hands down, no contest.

One question, is the girl that tried to kill Palmer at the end of season 2 the same girl that blew up the plane in season 1?

Yep, Mandy. Same girl

[FPrefect61]

Originally posted by Bartender84
Yep, Mandy. Same girl

Just checked the episode guide. Damn...

If I didn't watch all 48 episodes in the last two weeks, I wouldn't have caught that...

[Alix]

I think I need to rent 24 and Recap ... I can't remember a damn thing!

[Matt]

Bringing Mandy back was one of the great moves in S2.

[Matt]

Here we go baby. Tonight.

[DMBeener]

to anyone who might have missed episode 1 last week:

Fox is airing it one more time tonight at 8pm. Watch it! Then watch the 2nd episode at 9. :)

[FPrefect61]

If my friends miss it, so what, I'm watching tonight! :D

[malonestar]

11.5 more hours.

Interesting observation:

Season one:
Jamey Farrell: CTU Computer Technician
KILLED OFF!

Season two:
Paula Shaeffer: CTU Computer Technician
KILLED OFF!

Season three:
Kim Bauer: CTU Computer Technician
WHO KNOWS!?!

[The Sean]

no, itll be that gay guy who gets killed

[smallwaise]

Originally posted by steinauf85
no, itll be that gay guy who gets killed i enjoy the specifics

[willnole]

But you knew EXACTLY who he was refering to :evil

[DMBeener]

encore presentation of the premiere is on Fox NOW...episode 2 on very soon!

[DMBeener]

oh my...

[Matt]

Wow.

[cavecricket34]

Yeah, I'm lost already.

[DMBeener]

why are you lost?

[cavecricket34]

Because I never watched S1 and S2 and I'm not paying attention to S3 too well.

[Dancing Ants]

....dang. just dang. that guy is in CTU!...ohhhh..

[JonTheRvelator]

Wow.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Best.

Show.

Ever.

I browned my shorts when we found out that guy worked at CTU, and then I about had a heartattack when we found out the virus gets out.

[DMBeener]

of course that had to happen...it wouldn't be a season of 24 without it! :p

[Matt]

Fucking Fox and their over-revealing previews.

I don't know how I feel about that guy in CTU. I hope they get to him quickly so he doesn't play a major part in the plot. But the information about Anne is exciting - I can't wait to find out what that is.

[cutigerbtf]

hey matt- i'm assuming you read that PM i sent you about keifer. did you care, or get to see the show?

[Dancing Ants]

anyone notice how they cut Kate out of the whole first episode when they edited it for commericials?

[malonestar]

Originally posted by Dancing Ants
anyone notice how they cut Kate out of the whole first episode when they edited it for commericials?

She mentioned in an interview that she only had a tiny recuring role in this season, so I wouldn't look for too much of anything to do with her character.

Can I add to that a big "THANK GOD."

She did a good job of getting under my skin in S2...and I have pretty thick skin.

[smallwaise]

Originally posted by Matt
Fucking Fox and their over-revealing previews.
agreed, they pretty much gave away a huge surprise/excitement of next episode

tonight's episode dragged up until the last 20 minutes, still great nonetheless. good action scene, they tease you wtih teh thing about anne, and the jack/chase thing is already getting fired up

and we're only 2 hours in :)

i love tuesdays, i watch playmakers (last week's) at 8, then 24 at 9.

[smallwaise]

and i laughed really loud when its revealed the bad guy works at ctu


he's running the whole terrorist operation in a closet in the middle of ctu :lol

[DMBeener]

Originally posted by Matt
Fucking Fox and their over-revealing previews.

I don't know how I feel about that guy in CTU. I hope they get to him quickly so he doesn't play a major part in the plot. But the information about Anne is exciting - I can't wait to find out what that is.

I thought the same about the previews too Matt. At least it's only the virus and there wasn't *too* much about the other stuff.
I have a feeling that Gael will be around for a while, just because they seem so overly focused on Salazar so that it will take attention away from him. I'm excited about the Anne news, she's screwing the prez in more ways than one...

[FPrefect61]

I'm interested to see what the deal is with Anne.

And Jesus tap dancing Christ, you'd think after Nina, they'd do more of a background check with who works at CTU. Who's going to work there next season, Osama Bin Laden?!?

[DMBeener]

Originally posted by FPrefect61
I'm interested to see what the deal is with Anne.

And Jesus tap dancing Christ, you'd think after Nina, they'd do more of a background check with who works at CTU. Who's going to work there next season, Osama Bin Laden?!?

HAHAHAHA I'm still waiting for Nina and Mandy to show up...

[smallwaise]

Originally posted by FPrefect61
[BAnd Jesus tap dancing Christ, you'd think after Nina, they'd do more of a background check with who works at CTU. Who's going to work there next season, Osama Bin Laden?!? [/B] i really find it so unrealistic this guy would be able to be in this room by himself overlooking and running a terrorist operation. they'd have surveillance on the rooms. backround checks.

i dont know why, but it reminded me of when i was driving the other day by raytheon, and 3 patriot missle systems were being wheeled out of there with no security around them, nothing. i was like :confused:

[FPrefect61]

I wonder if Nina got the full pardon like she was promised?

[DMBeener]

Yes, it was part of the deal made last season.

[Dancing Ants]

no....whatever jack said to her in her ear will play a role this season.

i'll bet Anne is Nina in disguise...damn her! she gets to all of the 24 men!

[Matt]

Yes, Nina got the full pardon. Supposedly they caught the 'men behind the attacks' however, so we'll see about that I'm sure.

[FPrefect61]

I think you're right about Jack's whisperings.

I think the disguise is a bit of a stretch. :lol

At least we won't have to deal with a Kim subplot this season.

[Dancing Ants]

actually we will...did you see how the terrorist in CTU looked at her...? he's going to try to abduct her. I can already see next season...>

Jack to Chase: I did what I had to do. It's the only way she'd be safe.

Chase:....Jack...you put Kim in a chastitiy belt and a bubble that is nuke proof...Adam (the nosy computer guy) keeps calling her 'bubble girl' and it really pisses me off.

Jack: He did what?! he's threat to national security. off him.

[DMBeener]

Originally posted by Dancing Ants
i'll bet Anne is Nina in disguise...damn her! she gets to all of the 24 men!

I never even thought of that, but it would be so mindblowingly incredible if it happened....just whoa.

[Dancing Ants]

EXACTLY!

[Alix]

Great episode ...

[Bartender84]

Great episode.

I don't see how Gael being in CTU is unrealistic. Remember Jamie from S1, she was recruited when she was in CTU. And I think the room Gael was in was some type of security room, so I think he's some security person, maybe the head of security. Which would explain why he has his own room.

Also, I don't think that the virus is actually in the bag of cocaine. Seems like just a diversion to distract CTU from the real virus. It's way too early for the virus to be released.

[FPrefect61]

Interesting things you wouldn't know about 24 actors and actresses.

Dennis Haysbert - President Palmer, played Pedro Cerrano in the Major League movies

Xander Berkeley - George Mason, played Todd Voigt in Terminator 2 (John Connor's foster father)

I'll post more if I find them.

[FPrefect61]

I didn't catch the commercial free episode last week, was Kate in any of it? Also, I wonder if Kate's sister or any of the Warners will show up in this season

A friend of mine brought up an interesting though. Isn't it way too soon for the virus to be released? Maybe this cocaine bag is just a ruse

[Bartender84]

Kate was in the premiere for just a few minutes. Her and Jack have broken up, she called him saying she wanted to return his jacket or something. The actress said that Kate most likely won't be in this season as much, maybe just a few other times.

[FPrefect61]

That's a bummer. I liked Kate, she had the perfect "I'm so confused, what the fuck is going on?" look.

[Mark]

i just watched s3e2 and WOW. holy shit that was good!

[JonTheRvelator]

Originally posted by Mark
i just watched s3e2 and WOW. holy shit that was good!

exactly.

[Matt]

This show just keeps getting better and better. Never a bad episode.

[Mark]

it is amazing. i have only seen 2 episodes and i am so totally hooked. i get so into it.

it is crazy

[smallwaise]

Originally posted by Matt
This show just keeps getting better and better. Never a bad episode. that unfortunately is not true. there were a few episodes in s1 and s2 that dragged. usually the focus was kim being a retard, thats why i didn't like them so much

[FPrefect61]

Man, I'm so used to watching 7 or 8 episodes in a row, I'm not liking this once a week thing. :(

[bdfresh62]

Originally posted by smallwaise
that unfortunately is not true. there were a few episodes in s1 and s2 that dragged. usually the focus was kim being a retard, thats why i didn't like them so much

I think we are all in agreeance that we do not want to see Kim being a "retard" this season. That storyline is like kicking a dead horse. I really hope that doesn't happen this season. But I am so into this season already. I just can't even fathom the possibilities of what will happen.

[malonestar]

Originally posted by bdfresh62
I just can't even fathom the possibilities of what will happen.

I predict that Jack will do something heroic this season.

[FPrefect61]

People are gonna die.

[Neighbor Bill]

Originally posted by FPrefect61
Man, I'm so used to watching 7 or 8 episodes in a row, I'm not liking this once a week thing. :(

You got that right. It was so easy watching seasons 1 & 2 from DVD. I'm having lots of trouble with the real time plus commercials. I may have to tape a couple of weeks then replay all at once.

[FPrefect61]

Tonight, baby! :)

[malonestar]

I might have a big 24 announcement by the end of the month:D

[DMBeener]

about 20 minutes until showtime!

[Mark]

Wow wow wow wow

that is really all i can say. i get such an adreniline (sp?) rush watching this show.

wow

[JonTheRvelator]

Wow.

Not Tony.

Not Tony.

[DMBeener]

whoa.

[JonTheRvelator]

That was one of the greatest hours in television history.

[cavecricket34]

That was good. First time I actually paid attention.

[JonTheRvelator]

Where is Matt? Usually he posts by now...

[Crumbo]

Chase is way too anxious to be on this assignment.....something fishy there.

Anyone else think Nina is the bad guy inside CTU after a sex change operation :lol .

[DMBeener]

Originally posted by Crumbo
Anyone else think Nina is the bad guy inside CTU after a sex change operation :lol .

That's too funny. :lol I'd seriously laugh if it was true.

[Matt]

No. :( :(

I'm so sad.

[Crumbo]

Originally posted by DMBeener
That's too funny. :lol I'd seriously laugh if it was true.

I'm a fan of the show and was only kidding....but some of the things that happen on the show are just so unreal....it wouldn't surprise me.

President Palmer is getting some very bad advice and his brother obviously has some other agenda in mind.

[DMBeener]

Judging by how things usually go in this show, we can expect the worst in a situation such as we saw at the end...but we haven't *seen* it yet, so I'm not assuming anything.

(how's that for sounding kinda shady to continue the discussion yet not say anything at all for those who haven't seen it yet?)

[Crumbo]

Originally posted by DMBeener
Judging by how things usually go in this show, we can expect the worst in a situation such as we saw at the end...but we haven't *seen* it yet, so I'm not assuming anything.

(how's that for sounding kinda shady to continue the discussion yet not say anything at all for those who haven't seen it yet?)

:lol

[DMBeener]

Originally posted by Crumbo
I'm a fan of the show and was only kidding....but some of the things that happen on the show are just so unreal....it wouldn't surprise me.

President Palmer is getting some very bad advice and his brother obviously has some other agenda in mind.

I know you were kidding, I think it's hilarious though.

I hate his brother. That is all I have to say about that.

[bdfresh62]

Wow...what an episode. I didn't really like Tony on Season 2 but I really hope they don't kill him off, I actually like him now.

[Alix]

Good show tonight .. I hate how quickly it goes by!

[FPrefect61]

Not Tony, can't be Tony.

This'll come back to bite Jack in the ass I think. Chase was supposed to be the one out in the field.

The biggest problem I'm having waiting a week to see each episode is that I forget some stuff from the previous week, like how CTU found out that it was the kid (can't remember his name) that had the infected (well, fake) cocaine?

[JonTheRvelator]

Originally posted by Crumbo
President Palmer is getting some very bad advice and his brother obviously has some other agenda in mind.

I disagree. I don't think he is really up to anything. Atleast not yet.

Am I just dumb or something? I always feel so bad for that guy.

[JonTheRvelator]

Do you guys think Tony is dead?

[Crumbo]

Originally posted by JonTheRvelator
Do you guys think Tony is dead?

no.....it will be a superficial wound.....imo

[JonTheRvelator]

Originally posted by Crumbo
no.....it will be a superficial wound.....imo

Good Tony just rocks. :D

[Mark]

i don't think that Palmer is getting bad advice at all. i think that his brother is just looking out for him.

[Mark]

who is the blonde chick that was in the van with jack? she was the one who asked him how long he has been using.

she looks really familiar and i can't place her.

[FPrefect61]

I don't think she was in either of the first two seasons, maybe she's an old friend of Jack's. She did mention she called after Terri died.

I wonder if Jack'll shoot up before the day is over. He's come close a few times. Each time, my friend and I start yelling (yes, we're that into it) not to do it. :lol

[willnole]

Originally posted by Crumbo
no.....it will be a superficial wound.....imo

Did you see how badly he was bleeding?

Tony's done for. ESPECIALLY because it was Chase who was supposed to go and Fox needs to further that storyline.

No superficial neck wounds gush blood like that.

Tony's done. 24 shocks us again.

[malonestar]

If Tony is done with 24, so am I.