Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

[seekupig]

actually if unc BEATS duke and wake loses to duke, there is a two way tie with wake and UNC right (both with 3 conference loses to dukes 4)? Wake has beaten UNC, so that should be the tie breaker no?

sounds about right. my head is starting to hurt. maybe tomorrow we can discuss how to seed an 11 team conference tournament with 3 teams tied at the top, 5 tied in the middle, and 3 tied at the bottom.:D

[dmb1spe]

cause maryland's not ranked?

In the latest Coaches' Poll UMD is ranked 26th... but not in the top 25.

[dmb1spe]

If all of them play each other just one time, that equals Kentucky's games played vs. the top 25 for the entire season.

Congrats... how many teams did they play in the Top 5 out of their conference? Because UK played 2. UNC and Kansas. Don't reward a team for playing teams they have to in conference.

[UNC41]

actually if unc BEATS duke and wake loses to duke, there is a two way tie with wake and UNC right (both with 3 conference loses to dukes 4)? Wake has beaten UNC, so that should be the tie breaker no?

If the Heels beat Duke and Wake loses to Duke then UNC and all three teams run the table the rest of the way than UNC wins the conference outright. UNC and Wake both have two conference losses right now, so the Wake loss would drop them to second place with three losses to the Heels one. If both teams lose to Duke then there will be a three way tie.

[Third Floor]

In the latest Coaches' Poll UMD is ranked 26th... but not in the top 25.
yes but they are 22 in the AP thus making them ranked. there are 2 polls. you should check both before trying to sound smart.

[unccrombie]

If the Heels beat Duke and Wake loses to Duke then UNC and all three teams run the table the rest of the way than UNC wins the conference outright. UNC and Wake both have two conference losses right now, so the Wake loss would drop them to second place with three losses to the Heels one. If both teams lose to Duke then there will be a three way tie.
unc has 2 conference losses, not 1

and no one pay's attention to the coach's poll ;)

[seekupig]

Congrats... how many teams did they play in the Top 5 out of their conference? Because UK played 2. UNC and Kansas. Don't reward a team for playing teams they have to in conference.

they're getting rewarded for beating them, not playing them. reguardless of if you have to play them or not, at the end of the day your wins and losses against quality opponents is what matters. that's where Kentucky doesn't measure up the rest of the teams at the top of the polls.

[bustdstuff]

sounds about right. my head is starting to hurt. maybe tomorrow we can discuss how to seed an 11 team conference tournament with 3 teams tied at the top, 5 tied in the middle, and 3 tied at the bottom.:D

My head hurts just thinking about it. Maybe you should get a point for every player that was supposed to be on your team, but went to the draft. A point for actually having a bench, and another for every player that is hurt and can't play, and another just for R Love having the balls (get it "balls") to go to another ACC campus and getting shitty. :p :rolleyes

[seekupig]

My head hurts just thinking about it. Maybe you should get a point for every player that was supposed to be on your team, but went to the draft. A point for actually having a bench, and another for every player that is hurt and can't play, and another just for R Love having the balls (get it "balls") to go to another ACC campus and getting shitty. :p :rolleyes

only if you got points subtracted for every time Dickie V mentioned your team or your coach by name during a game you were not playing in.:D

and more points subtracted for every televised game.:p

[bustdstuff]

only if you got points subtracted for every time Dickie V mentioned your team or your coach by name during a game you were not playing in.:D

and more points subtracted for every televised game.:p

In that case we're all looking at the bottom seeds. But then again we could all do that never been done before win our conference tourneys being the last seed. :lol

[Davenumber40]

Congrats... how many teams did they play in the Top 5 out of their conference? Because UK played 2. UNC and Kansas. Don't reward a team for playing teams they have to in conference.

I disagree with that. I don't rip on ACC teams for an easier non-con schedule(except Duke who doesn't play a real away game). It all balances out in the end; their SOS's are all very high. What hurt UK this year was that the SEC was so much weaker than it usually is. If UK played in the SEC we wouldn't have needed 2 non-con games against 2 of the top 5.

[bdb23]

only if you got points subtracted for every time Dickie V mentioned your team or your coach by name during a game you were not playing in.:D

and more points subtracted for every televised game.:p
:lol :lol

[UNC41]

unc has 2 conference losses, not 1

and no one pay's attention to the coach's poll ;)

:BANG to me. I knew the Heels have 2 conference losses. I was just trying to state that if Duke beats Wake and UNC beats Duke then UNC would be a game up on Wake.

[unccrombie]

:BANG to me. I knew the Heels have 2 conference losses. I was just trying to state that if Duke beats Wake and UNC beats Duke then UNC would be a game up on Wake.
should have stopped there :lol

[clayj41]

So I guess UNC is #2 again.

[bdb23]

So I guess UNC is #2 again.
Like I said, nobody wants that #2 spot.

[Third Floor]

So I guess UNC is #2 again.
if wake beats duke, they should be #2

[seekupig]

if wake beats duke, they should be #2

:thumbsup

[UNC41]

if wake beats duke, they should be #2

Will I bring myself to cheer for Duke on Sunday? Still not sure.

[unccrombie]

Will I bring myself to cheer for Duke on Sunday? Still not sure.
that's a no go here cap'n. root, root root for the vis-itors

[bdb23]

There hasn't been anything this good in the Bryce Jordan Center since 10/1/04. :D

[ousooner]

Wasn't the OU-Nebraska game supposed to be on ESPN2 tonight? They interviewed Ron Franklin from the arena on our local news tonight at 6pm, but I'm getting ESPN News on ESPN2 right now.

[ousooner]

Alright, I've figured it out. I called my brother in Ohio and he's getting the game on ESPN2. If you haven't noticed ESPN is picking up a ton of games that they normally wouldn't because there is no hockey. OU-Nebraska is one of them. A local affiliate was already carrying the game in Oklahoma City before ESPN decided to. Apparently, in order not to kill the ratings of the local affiliate, ESPN agrees not to run the game here and they go to ESPN News on ESPN2 here. Understandable and nice of ESPN, but I love listening to Ron Franklin. Has anyone else experienced this yet?

[twosteppn36]

i believe we're going to have that happen saturday for the cuse/bc game

[unccrombie]

a big must win for the boys in orange

[RJ2kWJ]

Can anyone think of a cool poster/sign I should make for tomorrow nights game at VA TECH? I want it to be unique and piss off VT fans. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

-RJ

[UNC41]

Can anyone think of a cool poster/sign I should make for tomorrow nights game at VA TECH? I want it to be unique and piss off VT fans. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

-RJ

Hey Marcus Vick I think JJ's sister is just your type.

[haildmb]

well we just drubbed Maryland, AGAIN. Don't know why Maryland simply can't handle our terrible basketball team this year

[seekupig]

well we just drubbed Maryland, AGAIN. Don't know why Maryland simply can't handle our terrible basketball team this year

because they're not wearing Duke uniforms........

[haildmb]

because they're not wearing Duke uniforms........


low blow :lol leave the devils alone

[seekupig]

low blow :lol leave the devils alone

sorry man, leave the door cracked and i'm gonna come in.:lol

[JmoneyDMB]

This picture always makes me laugh it was taken at a duke/maryland game, Duke fans probably won't appreciate it

http://www.msprotege.com/members/derrick1623/dukekid2.jpg

[RJ2kWJ]

Hey Marcus Vick I think JJ's sister is just your type.

HAHAHA that's great! Best idea yet... any more ideas?

[bdb23]

HAHAHA that's great! Best idea yet... any more ideas?
Won't get you on TV but it is good. I'm horrible with these things.

[RJ2kWJ]

Won't get you on TV but it is good. I'm horrible with these things.

Dont wanna get on TV. Just would like to piss off Hokie fans.

[bustdstuff]

This picture always makes me laugh it was taken at a duke/maryland game, Duke fans probably won't appreciate it

http://www.msprotege.com/members/derrick1623/dukekid2.jpg

Dude as your first post in this thread this was WEAK. Iif you want to talk smack go ahead, but make it worth my time. You haven't even made an actual basketball comment.

With that said who's ready for a bracket buster weekend??? :D

[seekupig]

With that said who's ready for a bracket buster weekend??? :D

hell yeah. i'm off all weekend. poker, basketball, beer and some other party favors that'll go unnamed for now.:D

[watchtower41]

Anyone think this Utah team has a chance to make some noise??? Granted its all on Bogut....but its about that time to start talking sleepers....

-I really like Charlotte's team out of ConUSA.
-Gotta also like Pacific with what they did in last year's tourney, and their record this year.....definitely a dangerous team.
-Obviously a down year for the SEC, but SCarolina can be a team that drives tops seeds nuts... theyve played tight game against stiff competition all year long, UK looked outmatched in the game this week.
-Georgetown has quietly had a pretty damn good season, considering they land a 7-10, would you want to face such a team that looks to regain some of its historic pull in College Hoops???

-Texas Tech's trio of guards can be compared to the Illini's big 3. Certainly, Tech's team is not as well-rounded, but with 3 guards that can play like that.... you can go pretty damn far in the tourney.

[unccrombie]

tech can't shoot free throws though, which is huge come tourney time

[bustdstuff]

hell yeah. i'm off all weekend. poker, basketball, beer and some other party favors that'll go unnamed for now.:D


I gotta go with a couple of :thumbsup :thumbsup to the unnamed party favors.

Anyone think this Utah team has a chance to make some noise??? Granted its all on Bogut....but its about that time to start talking sleepers....

-I really like Charlotte's team out of ConUSA.
-Gotta also like Pacific with what they did in last year's tourney, and their record this year.....definitely a dangerous team.
-Obviously a down year for the SEC, but SCarolina can be a team that drives tops seeds nuts... theyve played tight game against stiff competition all year long, UK looked outmatched in the game this week.
-Georgetown has quietly had a pretty damn good season, considering they land a 7-10, would you want to face such a team that looks to regain some of its historic pull in College Hoops???

-Texas Tech's trio of guards can be compared to the Illini's big 3. Certainly, Tech's team is not as well-rounded, but with 3 guards that can play like that.... you can go pretty damn far in the tourney.

Utah could make some noise, but for them it's gonna be about where they get seeded. However Pacific. Who in their right mind would want to play them?

[EatSleepJeep]

Anybody that thought Pierre Pierce was ever going to return to BBall, he ain't.
http://dmregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050217/NEWS01/502170417/1001

They had a reprint of the whole e-mail in the print edition today, and I don't think Pierre is literate, it was terrible. I have no idea what they're teaching at the University, but Pierre isn't learning it.

[bdb23]

Anybody that thought Pierre Pierce was ever going to return to BBall, he ain't.
http://dmregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050217/NEWS01/502170417/1001

They had a reprint of the whole e-mail in the print edition today, and I don't think Pierre is literate, it was terrible. I have no idea what they're teaching at the University, but Pierre isn't learning it.
Damn. Scan the e-mail if you get a chance.

[Third Floor]

wait, duke is losing, why is this on the second page

[mray10]

duke fans are too busy running for their bomb shelters to be posting here ... i mean seriosuly, even being down to VT should drop them a spot in the polls ;)

[mray10]

This is great. Arizona whipped Oregon and Duke is down late in the 2nd. Heehee.

[DMBfan41]

I can't believe Duke lost that game.

[haildmb]

jesus fucking christ, we just lost to a shitty big east team. How the fuck did our entire team lose the ability to rebound.

[Third Floor]

duke fans are too busy running for their bomb shelters to be posting here ... i mean seriosuly, even being down to VT should drop them a spot in the polls ;)
youre from arizona. what you havent realized is that vatech is a tough team at home. them and miami have shown themselves to be acc quality, well at least more so than clemson.

[Third Floor]

but then again wake beat them by 20 there so....

[mray10]

youre from arizona. what you havent realized is that vatech is a tough team at home. them and miami have shown themselves to be acc quality, well at least more so than clemson.

and you didn't realize it was a joke.

i respect all the teams out there and pretty much any conference road loss is nothing to complain about. but it's still surprising.

it could be a good loss for the dukies, though. a late season surprise very often wakes a team up and gets them redy for a big tournament run.

[deafmike]

jesus fucking christ, we just lost to a shitty big east team. How the fuck did our entire team lose the ability to rebound.
Well actually it's ACC now, so it hurts extra bad. Help everyone else out in the conference.

[deafmike]

it could be a good loss for the dukies, though. a late season surprise very often wakes a team up and gets them redy for a big tournament run.
I would think they'd be getting a little worried now. Losing to Maryland (x2), now VT, and their next game is going to be even tougher against Wake. This is a rough stretch for them if they're looking for momentum or a wake-up call.

[mray10]

I would think they'd be getting a little worried now. Losing to Maryland (x2), now VT, and their next game is going to be even tougher against Wake. This is a rough stretch for them if they're looking for momentum or a wake-up call.

coach k is the kind of guy who can turn a rough stretch into a big positive for the team. or, it could just be an indication that the team has been just slightly overrated.

[clayj41]

I can't believe Duke lost that game.

I love it!

[dmb1spe]

Personally, I think VT beating Duke just cost Maryland a bid in the tourney. For the Terps to get in they'd have to either a.) take 6 from the ACC or b.) pass over teams that beat Maryland.

[UNC41]

Personally, I think VT beating Duke just cost Maryland a bid in the tourney. For the Terps to get in they'd have to either a.) take 6 from the ACC or b.) pass over teams that beat Maryland.

They are tied for the fourth best record in the ACC and have the fourth highest RPI according to espn InsiderRPI. They are in no danger of missing the tourny. Four from the ACC will get in and right now they'd be in above GT.

[dmb1spe]

Duke, Wake, UNC are locks. Miami, Maryland, VT, and GT will be on the bubble pending their performance over the next week.

[UNC41]

Fair enough. Your first statment made it seem like you thought the Terps were out as of today. There's still a lot of basketball to be played but they are in a good position.

[dmb1spe]

The only thing is they are tied with teams that have beaten them. I don't see them skipping those teams if they're still tied when the season ends.

[UNC41]

They are tied with Miami and VaTech. Maryland beat VaTech and lost to Miami. If they win 2 out of UNC, Virginia, Clemson, and VaTech I'd say they are in.

[dmb1spe]

If VT beats them they're done. Cause UNC will be waxing that ass.

[Gregb486]

goooooooo gw!!!!!!!!!

[UNC41]

If VT beats them they're done. Cause UNC will be waxing that ass.

I disagree, but to each their own. VT has an RPI of almost 150 and that was their first win over a top 25 team was tonight. Maryland has 2 as of now. If VT wins the second game they would split the season series and if their overall records was tied the edge has to go to Maryland.

Edit: I like your opinion on the UNC game.

[bkal14]

Does Georgetown make it this year? 16-7 overall 8-4 in the big east but no win against a team worth bragging about? They have nova and providence at home and Uconn on the road. Do they have to beat nova and providence to make it? Maybe just Uconn and one win in the garden?

What about Notre Dame?

I think Nova will get in for the first time in years. They beat either Pitt or BC and they're in, or if they take 2 of 3 against st. johns, Gtown, and seton hall they're in.

Can Syracuse get a 2 seed this year without winning the big east tourny? If they run the table do they get a 1 seed?

This is why I love the conference tournys...sometimes believe it or not, more than the actual NCAA tourny. It's my favorite week of college basketball.

[UNC41]

Does Georgetown make it this year? 16-7 overall 8-4 in the big east but no win against a team worth bragging about? They have nova and providence at home and Uconn on the road. Do they have to beat nova and providence to make it? Maybe just Uconn and one win in the garden?

What about Notre Dame?

I think Nova will get in for the first time in years. They beat either Pitt or BC and they're in, or if they take 2 of 3 against st. johns, Gtown, and seton hall they're in.

Can Syracuse get a 2 seed this year without winning the big east tourny? If they run the table do they get a 1 seed?

This is why I love the conference tournys...sometimes believe it or not, more than the actual NCAA tourny. It's my favorite week of college basketball.

My opinions on your questions.

Georgetown, yes. They've beat Pitt, ND, and Nova and 8-4 in the Big East is impressive.

Notre Dame, yes. Beat BC, UConn, Georgetown, and Nova.

Nova, yes as of now but needs to win at least 1, and preferable 2 of BC, Georgetown, and Pitt down stretch.

Syracuse is not a 1 seed. They'd need to run the table and have UNC, Wake, Kansas, Ok. St, and BC lose 2 games.

[clayj41]

Syracuse won't be a #1 seed. At best I think they'll be a #2, but I think they'll end up being a #3.

[UNC41]

Syracuse won't be a #1 seed. At best I think they'll be a #2, but I think they'll end up being a #3.

They've still got to go to BC and UConn. If, and only if, they sweep those two they have a descent shot at being a 2.

[bkal14]

Syracuse is not a 1 seed. They'd need to run the table and have UNC, Wake, Kansas, Ok. St, and BC lose 2 games.


I think they can get one if they run the table. You have to keep in mind that if they were to do that they'd beat BC at least once, and then 3 top teams in the tourny, uconn, pitt, bc again, etc...

I think if the winner of the BC/SU game on sat wins the big east tourny, they get a 1 seed.

[UNC41]

I think they can get one if they run the table. You have to keep in mind that if they were to do that they'd beat BC at least once, and then 3 top teams in the tourny, uconn, pitt, bc again, etc...

I think if the winner of the BC/SU game on sat wins the big east tourny, they get a 1 seed.

With four losses its not a guarnatee for Syracuse in my opinion. And I don't see them running the table. They haven't beat a team all season that is a lock for the tourny at this point. Their best win is either ND, Georgetown, or Nova. Meanwhile, they are 0-4 against the best three teams they've played, Pitt, UConn, and Ok. State.

[bkal14]

With four losses its not a guarnatee for Syracuse in my opinion. And I don't see them running the table. They haven't beat a team all season that is a lock for the tourny at this point. Their best win is either ND, Georgetown, or Nova. Meanwhile, they are 0-4 against the best three teams they've played, Pitt, UConn, and Ok. State.


They've beaten miss st and memphis which were 14th and 23rd at the time. I don't think they'd be guaranteed it, by no means, but it's possible. More likely a 2 seed if they win it, and a 3 or 4 if they don't.

[gbs3769]

Syracuse won't get a #1 seed. We don't want one either. I'll take a #3 anyday.

We will beat BC this weekend. We will win our next two after that at home over St. John's and Providence. We will lose to UConn on the road.

We will end the regular season 25-5 (12-4) which will not be good enough for first place in the Big East regular season. BC will take that but will lose in the Big East tournament very early. Syracuse will lose in the Semifinals.

- Matt

[bustdstuff]

coach k is the kind of guy who can turn a rough stretch into a big positive for the team. or, it could just be an indication that the team has been just slightly overrated.

I think what we're starting to see is a team that's just getting tired. The same 5 guys have been playing almost every second of the last 10 games, and at some point they start wearing down.


Oh and the question about SU running the table and getting a #1 seed. Thanks for the chuckle this morning.

Here's a question for you all. Do you really want your team to be a #1 seed? If I remember correctly most of the time maybe only one #1 seed gets to the Final Four.

[bdb23]

My wife got me tickets to the Big Ten tourney for my birthday yesterday. Woo-hoo!!!

[JmoneyDMB]

My wife got me tickets to the Big Ten tourney for my birthday yesterday. Woo-hoo!!!

Congrats on the tix Brian. I personally am hoping for a repeat of last years Big 10 tourny :p

[bustdstuff]

My wife got me tickets to the Big Ten tourney for my birthday yesterday. Woo-hoo!!!

:thumbsup :thumbsup

Lucky dog you. She must like you.

[unccrombie]

:lol @ duke. jeez, talk about a giant kick in the nuts

[dmb1spe]

Seriously... what the hell is going on with Dookies

[bustdstuff]

Seriously... what the hell is going on with Dookies


Apparnetly they've decided that the regular season doesn't matter as long as they beat UNC, and they might or might not show up for the ACC tourney. :ugh

[unccrombie]

i think steph got it right with the fatigure factor. mr. greg paulus will help that that situation next year

[seekupig]

Seriously... what the hell is going on with Dookies

a good starting five will only get you so far. their bench has been suspect all year, and it's starting to show now that they've played a bunch of games and are getting tired.

[bustdstuff]

i think steph got it right with the fatigure factor. mr. greg paulus will help that that situation next year

Thank you for recognizing that it's not a talent problem (as many would just throw out the generic "they suck" comment). There are NBA players that would be taking games off if they were playing as much as Duke's guys. Nothing I can do about it from here, and Coach K's in a tight spot right now. I'm sure he'd love to get some of them off the floor, but who does he replace them with?

[gbs3769]

i think steph got it right with the fatigure factor. mr. greg paulus will help that that situation next year

Yeah. He's such a good player.

It's a shame that he didn't go to Syracuse. We would have been unstoppable in Football with him, Bruce Williams, and Lavar Lobdell.

- Matt

[seekupig]

Thank you for recognizing that it's not a talent problem (as many would just throw out the generic "they suck" comment).

my avatar says they're a #1 seed in his heart.:p

[bustdstuff]

my avatar says they're a #1 seed in his heart.:p

And the saying directly above it says it all. :rolleyes

[unccrombie]

Yeah. He's such a good player.

It's a shame that he didn't go to Syracuse. We would have been unstoppable in Football with him, Bruce Williams, and Lavar Lobdell.

- Matt
i was thinking the same thing. at the press conference i was stunned they both went

[bustdstuff]

i was thinking the same thing. at the press conference i was stunned they both went

Sorry to SU, but at least I'll have a bench next year. That or I'll be down another scholarship player because he'll blow us off for the NBA. :lorraine

[unccrombie]

Sorry to SU, but at least I'll have a bench next year. That or I'll be down another scholarship player because he'll blow us off for the NBA. :lorraine
he's a real good kid. if anything he'll leave after jr year, but i highly doubt that. he's got strong morals and a good work ethic, i see him staying all the way through

[mrmora]

Sorry to SU, but at least I'll have a bench next year. That or I'll be down another scholarship player because he'll blow us off for the NBA. :lorraine

So whats your roll on the team?

[gbs3769]

he's a real good kid. if anything he'll leave after jr year, but i highly doubt that. he's got strong morals and a good work ethic, i see him staying all the way through

I agree. I don't see any reason why he would leave before he graduates. Of course that whole family is good people. His little sister, Sarah, is a hell of a soccer player.

- Matt

[mrmora]

Just kidding...I just find it funny how people always use "I" and "We" when talking about a sports team

[unccrombie]

I agree. I don't see any reason why he would leave before he graduates. Of course that whole family is good people. His little sister, Sarah, is a hell of a soccer player.

- Matt
i've seen better, but that whole family is talented

[UNC41]

i think steph got it right with the fatigure factor. mr. greg paulus will help that that situation next year

Paulus alone won't boost the Dukies depth because he'll just take over for Ewing. But McClure will provide more and if I remember right there are 2 or 3 more quality guys they will have as freshmen which will allow JJ and Sheldon to sit down and make Duke a stronger team.

[bustdstuff]

So whats your roll on the team?

Do you know how much energy it takes to send as much good karma their way as I do? :p

[gbs3769]

Do you know how much energy it takes to send as much good karma their way as I do? :p

You certainly have been slacking lately... :lol

- Matt

[dmb1spe]

Do you know how much energy it takes to send as much good karma their way as I do? :p

Probably as much as any other fan for a myriad of different teams. Duke is no special snowflake.

[bustdstuff]

You certainly have been slacking lately... :lol

- Matt


New boyfriend; damn this much sex takes a lot out of you. ;)

[haildmb]

Well actually it's ACC now


Yeah thanks buddy, I'm aware of that. :rolleyes It was more of a statement that we have no business losing to these newcomers.

[haildmb]

New boyfriend; damn this much sex takes a lot out of you. ;)


Well, I do what I can

[bustdstuff]

Well, I do what I can

You're wearing me out you big stud you. ;) ;)

[haildmb]

You're wearing me out you big stud you. ;) ;)

That's what I like to hear ;)

[gbs3769]

New boyfriend; damn this much sex takes a lot out of you. ;)

Touché.

- Matt

[Davenumber40]

Sign on gameday: Digger vs. UK 4-12

:lol

[clayj41]

Illinois and Iowa are playing a good, close game right now.

[bdb23]

Refs tried to give Iowa the game but...


27-0

[clayj41]

Yeah, Illinois ran away there at the end.

[bdb23]

Yeah, Illinois ran away there at the end.
Had me worried a bit since the fouls were against some main guys (Powell and Brown). But they did what they had to do (drive the paint) and got to the line to even things out a bit.

[paris72]

Kansas is looking for a loss

[unccrombie]

:thumbsup to ISU. they were fuckin themselves hard with those missed 1 and 1's. Refs were kinda shitty at the end for both sides. that game should have never went to OT, and you can't blame the loss on langford :)

[watchtower86]

quite a game in wahoo-land between UVA and maryland. 2OT, and sean singletary has been absolutely insane. just fouled out though

[ousooner]

Kansas Jayhawks - 2005 BIG XII CHAMPS

I think seekup needs to update his signature line for the time being

[RJ2kWJ]

my avatar says they're a #1 seed in his heart.:p

Change ur sig

[gbs3769]

It would be nice, if Syracuse could actually outrebound one team in Big East play this season.

- Matt

[bdb23]

Again, nobody wants that #2 spot.

[bdb23]

Change ur sig
:thumbsup :D http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/basketball/college/img8210347.jpg

[unccrombie]

Again, nobody wants that #2 spot.
did u watch any of the unc game? all the announcers could talk about was how they thought may would dominate augustine and how the only break the viewer would get was during timeouts

[bdb23]

did u watch any of the unc game? all the announcers could talk about was how they thought may would dominate augustine and how the only break the viewer would get was during timeouts
No, I didn't watch it. I wouldn't doubt that any media person would be all over the UNC bandwagon. It's a much more easier sell to the audience then climbing aboard the Illini wagon. In our game, the announcers said that Augustine was the most physical forward in the Big Ten. It sure would be one hell of a game, though.

[unccrombie]

No, I didn't watch it. I wouldn't doubt that any media person would be all over the UNC bandwagon. It's a much more easier sell to the audience then climbing aboard the Illini wagon. In our game, the announcers said that Augustine was the most physical forward in the Big Ten. It sure would be one hell of a game, though.
there should be an friendly game when end of season #1 plays #2

[bdb23]

there should be an friendly game when end of season #1 plays #2
At this point, nobody wants to hang on to the #2 spot long enough to even determine who that should be. :D

[unccrombie]

:lol well if you think about carolina has been the best suited. losing to duke wasn't really a major problem like kentucky/kansas losing to teams out of the top 25/30

[UNC41]

Anyone who claims JJ Redick is the best three-point shooter in the country is just wrong. Redick is a great shooter, not even my UNC bias can dispute that, but Salim Stoudemire is hands down better than anyone in college basketball.

[unccrombie]

Anyone who claims JJ Redick is the best three-point shooter in the country is just wrong. Redick is a great shooter, not even my UNC bias can dispute that, but Salim Stoudemire is hands down better than anyone in college basketball.
allen/sumpter for nova. allen was lights out again tonight :)

[haildmb]

this game's gonna be a war

[haildmb]

JJ's come to play!

[haildmb]

Duke up by 18, JJ has 33 pts

Whoopin' dat ass!

[unccrombie]

um...what the hell happened to WF?

[seekupig]

:lol well if you think about carolina has been the best suited. losing to duke wasn't really a major problem like kentucky/kansas losing to teams out of the top 25/30

you're right.:thumbsdow isn't it funny how a couple of bounces the wrong way makes a team suck over night? they played an overtime game and a double overtime game in the same week, lost both games by one point and all of a sudden they are a much worse team then the one that started the season 20-1. all those two losses did was tie them with UNC and Wake (until Duke finishes beating Wake) in the loss column for the whole season. as far as comparing the losses of UNC against the ones for Wake and Kansas, here you go.......

average RPI ranking of the teams they've lost to.....

UNC, 3 losses, avg. rpi- 45
Wake, 4 losses, avg. rpi- 36
Kansas, 3 losses, avg. rpi- 26

don't let the fact that UNC played the ACC doormats this week, trick you into believing that you're better than everyone else.

p.s. save the whole Santa Clara doesn't count crap, last time i checked it's still on your record.:lorraine

EDIT - just noticed that you said Kentucky/ Kansas. it's well established that Kentucky is overrated, but the rest of my argument stands.

[clayj41]

p.s. save the whole Santa Clara doesn't count crap, last time i checked it's still on your record.:lorraine

...but they didn't have Felton! :p :lol

[seekupig]

...but they didn't have Felton! :p :lol

:lol that's getting as much run as "angel from montgomery".

[clayj41]

:lol that's getting as much run as "angel from montgomery".

:thumbsup I can't even begin to estimate how many times I've used that excuse to justify the loss when my friends rip on me about it.

[seekupig]

:thumbsup I can't even begin to estimate how many times I've used that excuse to justify the loss when my friends rip on me about it.

you know as well as i do, that they should have won reguardless of that fact, but i understand......you gotta take what they give you.

[unccrombie]

kansas was severely outplayed by iowa state. they were just lucky they couldnt hit free throws in the last 2 minutes. you cant honestly tell me kansas deserved to win either of those games. the fact is they played 2 teams with shitty free throw shooting which allowed kansas to make a come back. ill give you texas tech, that was a hard fought game, but it should have been over with free throws. just because a game goes in OT doesnt mean the other team played well :shrug

[seekupig]

kansas was severely outplayed by iowa state. they were just lucky they couldnt hit free throws in the last 2 minutes. you cant honestly tell me kansas deserved to win either of those games. the fact is they played 2 teams with shitty free throw shooting which allowed kansas to make a come back. ill give you texas tech, thats a was fought game, but it should have been over wit hfree throws. just because a game goes in OT doesnt mean the other team played well

what does it say about a team that they can play shitty games and still be in it at the end? everyone hit's a rough spot at some point, and if you hit your rough spot against a team that's been hot, it's tough.

like my new sig.?

[unccrombie]

what does it say about a team that they can play shitty games and still be in it at the end? everyone hit's a rough spot at some point, and if you hit your rough spot against a team that's been hot, it's tough.

like my new sig.?
i was actually thinking that :lol ;) but my point is they wouldnt have been in it if the teams didnt miss free throws. iowa st missed 4 front ends of 1 and 1's. that could EASILY translate into like 6 pts, and at the point the game would have been out of reach. thats my only gripe about college ball.

[seekupig]

i was actually thinking that :lol ;) but my point is they wouldnt have been in it if the teams didnt miss free throws. iowa st missed 4 front ends of 1 and 1's. that could EASILY translate into like 6 pts, and at the point the game would have been out of reach. thats my only gripe about college ball.

i guess it depends on who you're pulling for. people always remember the plays at the ends of games, forgetting that there's 35 minutes of missed opportunities that puts them in that position. you say it shouldn't have been close because Iowa St. missed 4 front ends of 1 and 1's. fair enough. had Kansas not already missed 19 three pointers (4-23 for the game), those free throws probably wouldn't have mattered that much. there's two ways of looking at everything.

[haildmb]

there's only one way of looking at this:

we just gave Wake the beatdown :D

[unccrombie]

there's only one way of looking at this:

we just gave Wake the beatdown :D
and unc the acc title when we lay the smack down in the chapel

[unccrombie]

i guess it depends on who you're pulling for. people always remember the plays at the ends of games, forgetting that there's 35 minutes of missed opportunities that puts them in that position. you say it shouldn't have been close because Iowa St. missed 4 front ends of 1 and 1's. fair enough. had Kansas not already missed 19 three pointers (4-23 for the game), those free throws probably wouldn't have mattered that much. there's two ways of looking at everything.
touche i guess. but isu had kansas in circles all night with that press zone. a good game plan by the cyclones paid off, got to give them that

[Third Floor]

there's only one way of looking at this:

we just gave Wake the beatdown :D
theres multiple ways to look at it.
wake played a 30 minute game. and we won the 30 minutes. unfortunately we got outscored like 16-5 in the other 10, damn ten minutes. i was happy with the end of the game, basically wake showed they could come back from 18 down. overall, duke dominated the second half, but at the same time, when duke came to winston, it was pretty much the opposite, minus the 15 point jj reddick run in the last 3 minutes. i would like to see this at a neutral site. dc here we come.

[unccrombie]

theres multiple ways to look at it.
wake played a 30 minute game. and we won the 30 minutes. unfortunately we got outscored like 16-5 in the other 10, damn ten minutes. i was happy with the end of the game, basically wake showed they could come back from 18 down. overall, duke dominated the second half, but at the same time, when duke came to winston, it was pretty much the opposite, minus the 15 point jj reddick run in the last 3 minutes. i would like to see this at a neutral site. dc here we come.
i'd take wake in that situation anyday. too bad they had a mental lapse tonight

[Third Floor]

well i guess now i have to cheer for duke, god i feel dirty

[unccrombie]

well i guess now i have to cheer for duke, god i feel dirty
or you can resist the dark side ;)

[Third Floor]

in actuallity i hate unc more than duke. it just doesnt show because this is the first year since ive been at college that ive had to hate unc.

[Davenumber40]

what does it say about a team that they can play shitty games and still be in it at the end? everyone hit's a rough spot at some point, and if you hit your rough spot against a team that's been hot, it's tough.

like my new sig.?

That'd be true if they just lost Saturday. Losing 2 in one week is a bigger problem.

[unccrombie]

in actuallity i hate unc more than duke. it just doesnt show because this is the first year since ive been at college that ive had to hate unc.
well if unc loses you have that 3 way mess, let's just make it simple. just like we talked about :lol

[Third Floor]

youre wrong. duke has 4 losses, wake has 3, and unc has 2. if unc loses to duke, wake gets the one seed.

[UNC41]

youre wrong. duke has 4 losses, wake has 3, and unc has 2. if unc loses to duke, wake gets the one seed.

Yea, I said this the other night.

[gbs3769]

average RPI ranking of the teams they've lost to.....

UNC, 3 losses, avg. rpi- 45
Wake, 4 losses, avg. rpi- 36
Kansas, 3 losses, avg. rpi- 26

That's interesting. I just ran the numbers for Syracuse. Five losses, to 4 different teams. Average RPI ranking of teams they have lost to comes out to 13.

But we still suck. Can't rebound worth a damn.

- Matt

[bustdstuff]

Another great weekend of basketball. After a rough week it was awesome to see JJ have such a great game and be a leader in a conference win. Here's the latest Sportsline poll.

1 Illinois
2 Wake Forest
3 North Carolina
4 Kentucky
5 Kansas
6 Oklahoma State
7 Boston College
8 Duke
9 Arizona
10 Pittsburgh
11 Syracuse
12 Gonzaga
13 Louisville
14 Michigan State
15 Utah
16 Texas Tech
17 Alabama
18 Washington
19 Charlotte
20 Pacific
21 Connecticut
22 Oklahoma
23 Maryland
24 DePaul
25 Florida

[unccrombie]

youre wrong. duke has 4 losses, wake has 3, and unc has 2. if unc loses to duke, wake gets the one seed.
forgot about that damn va tech game, gr

[seekupig]

Kansas has a tough road this week, which is kind of scary since last week didn't look that way on paper. hopefully they bounce back and take what's theirs......

Tonite, @ Oklahoma
Sat., vs. Oklahoma St.

[watchtower41]

Kansas has a tough road this week, which is kind of scary since last week didn't look that way on paper. hopefully they bounce back and take what's theirs......

Tonite, @ Oklahoma
Sat., vs. Oklahoma St.


:mad :twak :mad
It's amazing what Moody does for this team's chemistry.....
Tonight is the biggest regular season game for the Jayhawks in sometime.... winning the Big XII is always nice, but I'd really like to secure that No 1 seed as well. Losing 2 Big XII games in a row is one thing, 3 is unthinkable. If I were Self I would bench Giddens from starting with how erratic he was on Sat. absolutely horrible and there is no excuse to keep on jacking up fadeaway bricks like that

[ousooner]

:mad :twak :mad
It's amazing what Moody does for this team's chemistry.....
Tonight is the biggest regular season game for the Jayhawks in sometime.... winning the Big XII is always nice, but I'd really like to secure that No 1 seed as well. Losing 2 Big XII games in a row is one thing, 3 is unthinkable. If I were Self I would bench Giddens from starting with how erratic he was on Sat. absolutely horrible and there is no excuse to keep on jacking up fadeaway bricks like that

Good luck tonight guys. Should be a dandy!

[seekupig]

latest in bracketology has KU slipping out of a #1 seed, being replaced by BC. that seems about right, and i actually like the matchups for KU better, although it takes them out of the Austin region.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

[watchtower41]

My friend just sent me this.....unreal

http://gkj.student.umd.edu/maryland-at-duke/


photos of the riots in College Park after Maryland won @ Duke. What the hell???

[watchtower41]

latest in bracketology has KU slipping out of a #1 seed, being replaced by BC. that seems about right, and i actually like the matchups for KU better, although it takes them out of the Austin region.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology



where I also love that new brakcet that Lunardi has KU in, mostly because I think they could smack around every team in that region... Though, if KU goes on to win the Big XII, there will be little doubt that they are a No. 1 seed. Even after the 2 L's last week, still No 1 RPI.

[gbs3769]

New AP Poll

1. Illinois
2. North Carolina
3. Boston College
4. Oklahoma State
5. Kentucky
6. Wake Forest
7. Duke
8. Kansas
9. Arizona
10. Michigan State
11. Louisville
12. Gonzaga
13. Utah
14. Washington
15. Syracuse
16. Alabama
17. Connecticut
18. Pittsburgh
19. Pacific
20. Wisconsin
21. Charlotte
22. Oklahoma
23. Villanova
24. Cincinnati
25. Nevada

- Matt

[clayj41]

BC at #3? Hmmm.

[unccrombie]

BC at #3? Hmmm.
cant argue with 1 loss. good win over SU

[clayj41]

cant argue with 1 loss. good win over SU

I'm not surprised, its just who would have thought that this late in the season a team like BC would be ranked #3 in the country.

[UNC41]

latest in bracketology has KU slipping out of a #1 seed, being replaced by BC. that seems about right, and i actually like the matchups for KU better, although it takes them out of the Austin region.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

Austin definately looks like the toughest region. Followed by Chicago, Syracuse, and Albuquerque.

[clayj41]

Austin definately looks like the toughest region. Followed by Chicago, Syracuse, and Albuquerque.

I think UNC would march right through their region.

[UNC41]

I think UNC would march right through their region.

Yeah now that I look at it again, Syracuse does look better than Albuquerque.

[unccrombie]

syracuse looks like the worst :lol

[Davenumber40]

Syracuse almost looks like an NIT bracket

[UNC41]

If I'm a high seed the last team I want to see in the second round is Pacific.

[seekupig]

If I'm a high seed the last team I want to see in the second round is Pacific.

them or G.Tech. if Tech gets in and gets rolling in time with Elder, they could be a tough second round game for someone.

[meatball41]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the overall #1 seed get the winner of the play in game? So if that's the case then that means that this clown is giving the overall #1 seed to UNC? :rolleyes

[haildmb]

My friend just sent me this.....unreal

http://gkj.student.umd.edu/maryland-at-duke/


photos of the riots in College Park after Maryland won @ Duke. What the hell???


God almighty, children. get a grip!

I thought it was kinda silly when they stormed the floor after beating Duke last week. Have they fallen that far in 2 years?

[bustdstuff]

What's up KU? Down by as much as 15! Your boys better get on it. I smell upset.

[unccrombie]

What's up KU? Down by as much as 15! Your boys better get on it. I smell upset.
i hope you just didn't jinx it :(

[seekupig]

What's up KU? Down by as much as 15! Your boys better get on it. I smell upset.

:violent

[unccrombie]

ever so steady comeback

[seekupig]

ever so steady comeback

yeah, they'll get my hopes up then lose in overtime for the third game in a row. need to get the ball to Simien.

[unccrombie]

yeah, they'll get my hopes up then lose in overtime for the third game in a row. need to get the ball to Simien.
they've got OU by 7 so far this half, and with 13 min left, i really see this being a close one

[UNC41]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the overall #1 seed get the winner of the play in game? So if that's the case then that means that this clown is giving the overall #1 seed to UNC? :rolleyes

No, the highest overall seed with a first round game on Friday gets the winner of the play in game. It is designed this way to give the winner a longer break after playing on Tuesday. Indianapolis is the closest first round site to the Illini, and the first round game is on Thursday, so Illinois is slotted there, and UNC, the second highest seed, who plays on a Friday gets the winner of the play in game.

[unccrombie]

someone may want to tell kansas selection sunday hasn't happened yet

[seekupig]

well, i guess the only good thing that can come from this is now they can't choke in the tournament. can't choke with no expectations. why it took 20 games to figure out Kansas can't beat a zone defense i don't know. if you're not making your 3's, and can't get the ball to your big man, you're as good as done.

[ousooner]

well, i guess the only good thing that can come from this is now they can't choke in the tournament. can't choke with no expectations. why it took 20 games to figure out Kansas can't beat a zone defense i don't know. if you're not making your 3's, and can't get the ball to your big man, you're as good as done.

Neither team was able to do a thing inside. If OU's perimeter shooting was the difference. Kansas did a great job on Bookout and Gray. I don't know how it looked on tv, but Miles and Langford are rediculously quick.

[seekupig]

Neither team was able to do a thing inside. If OU's perimeter shooting was the difference. Kansas did a great job on Bookout and Gray. I don't know how it looked on tv, but Miles and Langford are rediculously quick.

the difference to me looked to be KU's inability to get offensive rebounds without Moody. they played a small lineup and that hurt them on the boards. second chance points went to OU by a mile. good game for the Sooners.

[Dave G]

It was good to see Rashad Anderson on the UConn bench last night in their win over ND. Granted he was in street clothes and has dropped about 15-20 pounds but considering last week there was a chance he wasn't going to make it, it was cool.
ND coach Mike Brey said of UConn after the game "I don't know of anybody playing better than that right now" "That was really good.These guys are as good as any of the heavyweights and maybe playing the best of anyone right now"
While that could be the talk of a coach that lost 88-74 while getting outrebounded 43-26 and outscored 42-26 in the paint. Coach Calhoun has these guys playing really well and they could be a dangerous team to play in the coming weeks. They still have that pesky problem of only one guard worth anything, but he did have 17 pts, 12 assists and 9 rebounds last night

[bdb23]

someone may want to tell kansas selection sunday hasn't happened yet
:lol

[seekupig]

from Dick Vitale on ESPN.com.......:confused

Right now, I'm staying with North Carolina as the team to beat in Saint Louis. The Tar Heels had a good road win Sunday over defending national champion Connecticut, bouncing back from a tough defeat against Duke.

[meatball41]

No, the highest overall seed with a first round game on Friday gets the winner of the play in game. It is designed this way to give the winner a longer break after playing on Tuesday. Indianapolis is the closest first round site to the Illini, and the first round game is on Thursday, so Illinois is slotted there, and UNC, the second highest seed, who plays on a Friday gets the winner of the play in game.

:thumbsup Cool, thank you for explaining that.

[unccrombie]

from Dick Vitale on ESPN.com.......:confused

Right now, I'm staying with North Carolina as the team to beat in Saint Louis. The Tar Heels had a good road win Sunday over defending national champion Connecticut, bouncing back from a tough defeat against Duke.
DV has a corrupted mind, but if the brackets pan out the way they're projected carolina breezes into stl

[watchtower41]

well, i guess the only good thing that can come from this is now they can't choke in the tournament. can't choke with no expectations. why it took 20 games to figure out Kansas can't beat a zone defense i don't know. if you're not making your 3's, and can't get the ball to your big man, you're as good as done.



:thumbsup Especially when you have the best PF in the country. I think Fran Frachilla hit the nail on the head...this team is exhausted.....mentally and physically. Self never gained enough confidence to build up a strong bench, and Miles is the only decent passer on the team. I dont understand how KU goes and beats a top 5 GTech team or go into Kentucky without Simien and take care of business 2 months ago...and now it seems like they cant even run an 8th grade offense. :shrug :thumbsdow :BANG KU hasnt lost 3 in a row since before I started going to school there.....1994 :ugh Yeah, I pretty much wanted to jump off my balcony last night, good thing bars are open Mondays.

[UNC41]

from Dick Vitale on ESPN.com.......:confused

Right now, I'm staying with North Carolina as the team to beat in Saint Louis. The Tar Heels had a good road win Sunday over defending national champion Connecticut, bouncing back from a tough defeat against Duke.

I hope that didn't suprise you or anything.

[Davenumber40]

from Dick Vitale on ESPN.com.......:confused

Right now, I'm staying with North Carolina as the team to beat in Saint Louis. The Tar Heels had a good road win Sunday over defending national champion Connecticut, bouncing back from a tough defeat against Duke.

It's not like he picked Pacific. I could see UNC winning it.

[watchtower41]

I hope that didn't suprise you or anything.


Not surprising at all.... the fact that the games the almighty Dickie V speaks of are well over a week ago is. :ugh Then again, who has time to write articles with all that research he does

[UNC41]

Not surprising at all.... the fact that the games the almighty Dickie V speaks of are well over a week ago is. :ugh Then again, who has time to write articles with all that research he does

He's currently working on a story about their huge victory over Kentucky.

[bustdstuff]

DV has a corrupted mind, but if the brackets pan out the way they're projected carolina breezes into stl

Be careful or they'll do what Duke did, and end up losing to an IU.

[jermtheworm]

Be careful or they'll do what Duke did, and end up losing to an IU.

i was at the espn zone at disney watching that game, it was a lot of fun because there was a big mix of crowd for both team.

[unccrombie]

Be careful or they'll do what Duke did, and end up losing to an IU.
if it's their destiny so be it

[unccrombie]

mccants wont be playing tonight...ick http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=1997312

[UNC41]

mccants wont be playing tonight...ick http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=1997312

I wonder if they will go big and start Marvin or stay small and start Scott. Its too bad he'll be on the bench against State because its always fun to watch him and Hodge go back and forth at eachother. I really wish I didn't have to work tonight.

[unccrombie]

i think they'll start scott, but scott isnt the best scorer so i think theyll be a heavy rotation

[UNC41]

i think they'll start scott, but scott isnt the best scorer so i think theyll be a heavy rotation

Scott is streaky as hell. If he's on he could drop 20 in a starting role, but if not he could be 1-7 from 3 and put up 5 points.

[clayj41]

Big rivalry game tonight, Purdue and IU. Who else is pumped? :p

[watchtower41]

Every Tuesday the Illini is not on, the whole country has to suffer in watching how terrible the Big X is this year.

[Davenumber40]

Pumped for IU and Purdue? That'll make MLS games look exciting.

[clayj41]

Pumped for IU and Purdue? That'll make MLS games look exciting.

Yeah, even as an IU student I don't really care.

[Davenumber40]

Is Mike Davis getting fired? We have a friend that's an IU fan and he throws a bitch fit every time the subject comes up. He says people just don't like him because he's black, but I think not making the tournement this year might justify taking a look at him.

[clayj41]

Is Mike Davis getting fired? We have a friend that's an IU fan and he throws a bitch fit every time the subject comes up. He says people just don't like him because he's black, but I think not making the tournement this year might justify taking a look at him.

It's a very controversial issue. I don't think he's a bad coach its just the success IU has had in the past makes the fans expect more. It's not easy to replace Bob Knight. No one knows for sure if he'll be fired or not, but I think he will be.

[Davenumber40]

He didn't get an extension recently did he? This guy was saying he did and we all think he say an old story about his extension after the championship game.

[clayj41]

He didn't get an extension recently did he? This guy was saying he did and we all think he say an old story about his extension after the championship game.

He's under contract until 2009 I think, but there are numerous reports that he may be let go before that.

[Davenumber40]

Ok thanks for the info. Personally I go back and forth about him. I don't think he's a terrible coach but then he ought to be doing more with the players he's got. Not making the tournement isn't acceptable for IU and neither is a 20 point loss to Northwestern. Hope you all get that sorted out and I'm hating IU again in a few years.

[clayj41]

IU is kickin' some ass.

[RJ2kWJ]

Think the 2nd half of the UNC game will be good or will UNC pull away?

[mray10]

Wow, Nebraska is up on Oklahoma State midway through the second half. That one would shock me.

[watchtower41]

Wow, Nebraska is up on Oklahoma State midway through the second half. That one would shock me.



Shock you, and I'd throw a party. Is this game on tv???

[UNLTrpt]

Wow, Nebraska is up on Oklahoma State midway through the second half. That one would shock me.

I'm listening to em right now. GO HUSKERS!!!!!!!! :multi :multi :multi


edit: this is the only time I'm going to be able to visit this thread. Let me gloat ok???

[UNLTrpt]

Shock you, and I'd throw a party. Is this game on tv???

no TV. Catch the highlights on TV though, an amazing dunk by a husker.

No joke.

[watchtower41]

I'm listening to em right now. GO HUSKERS!!!!!!!!


edit: this is the only time I'm going to be able to visit this thread. Let me gloat ok???


yuo can gloat all you want as long as Big Red pulls this off tonight.....

that Minnesota Twins jibberish may have to go though

[UNLTrpt]

that Minnesota Twins jibberish may have to go though
:twak

[UNLTrpt]

Nebraska has been so up and down this year, it has been quite dissapointing. Rumblings by fans want Collier gone but I think he deserves another year. NIT is probably out of the question unless they make a run late.

[watchtower41]

Don't blame me, I'm just a deprived White Sox fan....loads of talent, nowhere close to the chemistry and unity that the Twinkies have.....things are gonna change this year though.

[UNLTrpt]

What the "F" is wrong with KU?!?!?! I'm not saying that we're any better (although we took you to the edge in Lawrence) but dang they should be playing a lot better than they are.

[watchtower41]

What the "F" is wrong with KU?!?!?! I'm not saying that we're any better (although we took you to the edge in Lawrence) but dang they should be playing a lot better than they are.


That's the million dollar question right now.....contender or pretender??? I'm not gonna blame anybody until I see the big game with Oklahoma St this Sunday. Its not March yet, but that game is the season for KU. Am I seeing this right on espn.com Big Red up 7 with 1:07 to go????

[UNLTrpt]

36 seconds

[UNLTrpt]

we're missing our free throws...what's new :rolleyes

[UNLTrpt]

71-62 29 seconds

[UNLTrpt]

71-65 14 sec

[UNLTrpt]

72-65 13 sec

[UNLTrpt]

72-67 7 sec

[UNLTrpt]

74-67 Stormin The Court!!!

[UNLTrpt]

I'm actually the guy behind the scenes that's originating the Nebraska broadcast. Kinda a game engineer type person. It's been hard to listen to them this year but it feels good now.

[watchtower41]

74-67 Stormin The Court!!!

I'll take it. Let the celebration begin in Lincoln
Absolutely loving that upset... mad props to Big Red for pulling this one off.

[watchtower41]

I'm actually the guy behind the scenes that's originating the Nebraska broadcast. Kinda a game engineer type person. It's been hard to listen to them this year but it feels good now.


sounds like a pretty nice gig to me....

[UNLTrpt]

sounds like a pretty nice gig to me....

it is. I get to do Nebraska football, basketball and baseball. I like it, I don't get to go to as many games as I'd like but it's still a great job.

[mray10]

I always say there are no bad in-conference road losses, but this one still really shocks me

[UNLTrpt]

I always say there are no bad in-conference road losses, but this one still really shocks me
as mediocre has Nebraska been this year it probably should shock you.

But, Nebraska has a history of getting a big home upset once a year. Last year we throttled KU at home. we just plain play better at home than on the road.

[UNLTrpt]

what makes me mad is that if Bonds didn't have his damn press conference today, the Nebraska upset would be leading every major sports show, radio and TV.

[unccrombie]

Pumped for IU and Purdue? That'll make MLS games look exciting.
< big soccer fan

anywho, just got back from my guitar gig to see 2 upsets. very nice :) wish i could have watched the games

[gbs3769]

I'll take it. Let the celebration begin in Lincoln
Absolutely loving that upset... mad props to Big Red for pulling this one off.

Not that anyone in the state reallly cares. They are all just waiting until Spring ball.

However, it's good to see my former state (and my sister's school) get a big win like this. As far as talk about Collier being replaced, I don't see any reason why they should. Nebraska has never been a basketball school and I think that he has done pretty well with the program.

- Matt

[UNLTrpt]

Not that anyone in the state reallly cares. They are all just waiting until Spring ball.

However, it's good to see my former state (and my sister's school) get a big win like this. As far as talk about Collier being replaced, I don't see any reason why they should. Nebraska has never been a basketball school and I think that he has done pretty well with the program.

- Matt

Matt I think people care but some fans just want to cheer for a winner. There are old lady's that go to home games and never stand up, never cheer. When I went to games on a consistent basis, we always made a joke that cheering wasn't allowed in the arena because it was so hard for people to stand up and cheer.

I don't think Collier will be fired this year. He went deep into the NIT last year and our two best players this year are 2 freshman. We've got a decent class coming in next year. But to say this season is a dissapointment is an understatement.

What year is your sister?

[gbs3769]

What year is your sister?

Junior. But she transfers to UNMC next year for PT.

- Matt

[UNLTrpt]

I graduated in the summer of 03.

[Davenumber40]

< big soccer fan

anywho, just got back from my guitar gig to see 2 upsets. very nice :) wish i could have watched the games

I'm a big soccer fan too but watching MLS games is usually painful. The Soccer moms out in LA think a good time is blowing those damn horns for 90 minutes. I will say the eastern playoff games were excellent. Hopefully this new Chivas team will add a spark out west. I don't know if you watch much european soccer but you ought to check it out. That game blows the MLS away. Today on ESPN 2 at 2:30 Manchester United vs. AC Milan.

[unccrombie]

i do watch english premier, much better skill wise

[dmb1spe]

Thoughts on the ACC since Maryland lost to Clemson John? I still say the Terps are a bubble team... at best. If they lose to UNC (definite) and VT (probable) then they're NIT bound.

[UNC41]

Thoughts on the ACC since Maryland lost to Clemson John? I still say the Terps are a bubble team... at best. If they lose to UNC (definite) and VT (probable) then they're NIT bound.

That Clemson game was bad loss. If they beat North Carolina they are in. If they lose to Carolina and beat VT they will need win a game in the ACC tournament to get in. If they drop both they will need to win a minimum of two games in the ACC tournament to have a shot at an at-large bid.

[unccrombie]

That Clemson game was bad loss. If they beat North Carolina they are in. If they lose to Carolina and beat VT they will need win a game in the ACC tournament to get in. If they drop both they will need to win a minimum of two games in the ACC tournament to have a shot at an at-large bid.
i think they need the va tech win. they can lose to unc and still be in no doubt. but if it came down to md losing both games i choose ND

[dmb1spe]

Williams today said this team was "the streakiest I've seen in 30 years of basketball." I have to agree... sweep Duke... swept by Clemson. Unbelievable.

[unccrombie]

:lol their inconsistancy is a major reason why they're in the hole. they had a chance to get a SOLID 6-8 SEED (imo) and they blow it. go figure

[mdude85]

GT vs duke tonite

[unccrombie]

GT vs duke tonite
:lol you say that like it'll be a game

[rcarlsn612]

:lol you say that like it'll be a game
Tech needs a big win either tonight or a couple in the acc tourney

[bdb23]

Northwestern @ Illinois tonight. :D

[clayj41]

Northwestern @ Illinois tonight. :D

My money is on Northwestern. ;)

[dmb1spe]

I am going out on a limb.... and picking Illinois. :) :lol

[watchtower41]

Northwestern @ Illinois tonight. :D



looking forward to this one... I fully expect an Illini thrashing due to the lack of respect and problems up when they played at NW. :bounce super jacked, today... I think just scored tickets to the regionals at Allstate Arena in Chicago. :monkey