Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

[haildmb]

well apparently the Maryland team that's capable of beating Duke has come to play tonight, and they left the one that got swept by State and Clemson at home

[seekupig]

well apparently the Maryland team that's capable of beating Duke has come to play tonight, and they left the one that got swept by State and Clemson at home

and UNC left the McCants at home, should be good down the stretch........

[trippingbilly12]

and UNC left the McCants at home, should be good down the stretch........

hey seekuppig! BIG WIN TODAYYYY

[clayj41]

Damn, this UNC-Maryland game is turning out to be a much closer game than I wanted it to be. On another note, how about IU beating MSU today!

[Davenumber40]

Kansas has made it to three Elite Eights in a row.

Yeah they have. I missed one of them.

[clayj41]

...and UNC wins by 2. May with a huge block at the end to prevent a tie.

[haildmb]

amazing, Felton was able to get a shot off! ;)

[ousooner]

Oklahoma and Oklahoma St win out and Kansas loses at Missouri and we have a three way tie for the Big 12. What do you say seekup, sounds good to me :D

[dmb1spe]

Terps have to win against Virginia Tech or they don't get in.

[seekupig]

Oklahoma and Oklahoma St win out and Kansas loses at Missouri and we have a three way tie for the Big 12. What do you say seekup, sounds good to me :D

how 'bout all three win out and avoid the confusion, that sounds better.;)

[seekupig]

Terps have to win against Virginia Tech or they don't get in.

there's talk around here about NC State getting in if they win their last two against Virginia and Wake Forest. not likely, but stranger things have happened.

[UNC41]

amazing, Felton was able to get a shot off! ;)

It's probably because he made the layup with 19 seconds to go.

[haildmb]

It's probably because he made the layup with 19 seconds to go.


yeah that's the only explanation I can come up with too :D

[mizzoudmbfan]

Oklahoma and Oklahoma St win out and Kansas loses at Missouri and we have a three way tie for the Big 12. What do you say seekup, sounds good to me :D

I like this scenario:thumbsup

[bdb23]

Enough Kansas talk in this thread. This is what happens when the Illini have 3 games in a 2 week span. There are about 8 better teams than the Jayhawks to talk about. :D

[dmb1spe]

1-4 Illinois
5-8 Kentucky

[seekupig]

5-8 Kentucky

:thumbsdow

[dmb1spe]

:lol

[Davenumber40]

NC St. and V. Tech have to be out. Their RPI's that I'm looking at (from last sunday) are 80 and 100 respectively. Other bubble teams that are being discussed (South Carolina and Miami) are 54 and 55.

*edit* What do you all think about these smaller teams with good RPI's? About half the teams from 30 to 50 are Old Dominions or Holy Crosses. How many of these teams are in?

[UNC41]

NC St. and V. Tech have to be out. Their RPI's that I'm looking at (from last sunday) are 80 and 100 respectively. Other bubble teams that are being discussed (South Carolina and Miami) are 54 and 55.

*edit* What do you all think about these smaller teams with good RPI's? About half the teams from 30 to 50 are Old Dominions or Holy Crosses. How many of these teams are in?

NC State is out unless it can beat Virginia and Wake, which isn't going to happen. I think the winner of the Va Tech and Maryland game is in.

[unccrombie]

i sweated way too much at the end of that game :lol

[clayj41]

i sweated way too much at the end of that game :lol

:thumbsup Me too.

[Third Floor]

i sweated way too much at the end of that game :lol
goddamn terps, now i have to root for duke. i hate my life.
actually i love it, life is fantastic

[TMS2787]

I've not posted all season in this thread. But...Cincy is my team and I feel they are overated, should not even be in the top 25. How can you be in the top 25 and not even beat a ranked team? They shouldn't be, it's quite evident. I am glad to see UNC having such a nice season this season!

[unccrombie]

goddamn terps, now i have to root for duke. i hate my life.
actually i love it, life is fantastic
without the doc, i wouldn't like duke's chances

[seekupig]

without the doc, i wouldn't like duke's chances

:thumbsup it's definately gonna be tough. their short bench is a little bit shorter, not a good thing for the Dukies......

[Third Floor]

i didnt like dukes chances with dockery. without him its just gonna be ugly

[seekupig]

i didnt like dukes chances with dockery. without him its just gonna be ugly

i agree. anyone know if McCants is supposed to be back this week?

[gbs3769]

Where was the love for Boeheim on his 700th on Saturday?

- Matt

[Davenumber40]

I've not posted all season in this thread. But...Cincy is my team and I feel they are overated, should not even be in the top 25. How can you be in the top 25 and not even beat a ranked team? They shouldn't be, it's quite evident. I am glad to see UNC having such a nice season this season!

No suprise here. UC is overated every year.

*edit* I'm from northern Kentucky and I grew up listening to sports talk in Cincinnati. Did you all realize they all think they're consistently one of the top 10 teams in the country? I tell people in Lexington that and they can't believe it.

[UNC41]

i agree. anyone know if McCants is supposed to be back this week?

I can only hope so.

I was also hoping you, being the resident Tobacco Road ant in this thread would be able to provide some insight into that.

[seekupig]

I can only hope so.

I was also hoping you, being the resident Tobacco Road ant in this thread would be able to provide some insight into that.

i'll know later today, wasn't sure if it had been reported on ESPN yet.

[UNC41]

i'll know later today, wasn't sure if it had been reported on ESPN yet.

If I get the news from you first it'll be a rep point based on how I like it. ;)

[seekupig]

If I get the news from you first it'll be a rep point based on how I like it. ;)

questionable vs. FSU
probable vs. Duke

nothing definate like you were looking for, but that's all anyone will say right now. it's the same flu bug that has gone through most of the team, it's just hitting him worse. probably could play vs. FSU but they don't want to rush him back and wear him out before the tournament since he hasn't practiced since 02-19. if i hear anything more concrete, i'll be sure to let you know.

[watchtower41]

Updated RPI's as of today....Still No. 1, Weeeerrrreeee Back. ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK Final Four plus 2 more. On a sidenote, way to go Villanova...hottest team in the country against elite competition

1 Kansas
2 Illinois
3 Boston College
4 Duke
5 North Carolina
6 Oklahoma State
7 Wake Forest
8 Washington
9 Kentucky
10 Arizona
11 Villanova
12 Gonzaga
13 Connecticut
14 Cincinnati
15 Oklahoma
16 Wisconsin
17 Alabama
18 Syracuse
19 Michigan State
20 Southern Illinois
21 Louisville
22 Charlotte
23 Utah
24 LSU
25 Nevada

[gbs3769]

On a sidenote, way to go Villanova...hottest team in the country against elite competition

I still don't understand how they failed to beat Syracuse.

- Matt

[seekupig]

I still don't understand how they failed to beat Syracuse.

- Matt

he said hottest team against elite competition. ;)

[Gregb486]

GW has a big game against st joes tomorrow night. last home game!!! and i can't go.:violent

[gbs3769]

he said hottest team against elite competition. ;)

:eek

I think I'll go crawl back in my hole.

- Matt

[seekupig]

:eek

I think I'll go crawl back in my hole.

- Matt

:lol
we know 'Cuse is good, they just need a consistent third scorer to be a threat in the tournament.

[gbs3769]

:lol
we know 'Cuse is good, they just need a consistent third scorer to be a threat in the tournament.

Agreed. But I think that Boeheim has been trying to get Terrance Roberts slated into that third option. We know that he has been playing him a lot lately to prepare for the game against UConn. There is simply no way that we can beat UConn without another big man stepping it up.

Roberts has the potential, but he still has the jitters of being an inexperienced player. Just watching the way that he was warming up for the Pitt game at the Dome, it was obvious that he was not ready at that time to be our third option. In warmups for the game, he was trying to do all sorts of fancy dunks and I think pretty much every single one clanged off the rim. In the game he shot 80%, but I still worry about him and his inexperience.

- Matt

[UNC41]

questionable vs. FSU
probable vs. Duke

nothing definate like you were looking for, but that's all anyone will say right now. it's the same flu bug that has gone through most of the team, it's just hitting him worse. probably could play vs. FSU but they don't want to rush him back and wear him out before the tournament since he hasn't practiced since 02-19. if i hear anything more concrete, i'll be sure to let you know.

That's what I was hoping to hear. Thanks.

[TMS2787]

No suprise here. UC is overated every year.

*edit* I'm from northern Kentucky and I grew up listening to sports talk in Cincinnati. Did you all realize they all think they're consistently one of the top 10 teams in the country? I tell people in Lexington that and they can't believe it.

:BANG. I never heard that show, I don't get any Cincy stations in Akron, it's too far away. I like Cincy and I always want them to do well but I don't understand how they always get ranked and they usually are not very good. I can pretty much gurnatee that they'll be out of the tourment in the second round, I'll be very suprsied if we can make it past the first round. The last real good season I'd say that Cincy had was when K-Mart was on the team.

[watchtower41]

New AP poll.......

1 Illinois
2 North Carolina
3 Kentucky
4 Wake Forest
5 Boston College
6 Duke
7 Kansas
8 Oklahoma State
9 Louisville
10 Washington
11 Arizona
12 Gonzaga
13 Syracuse
14 Michigan State
15 Connecticut
16 Utah
17 Pacific
18 Charlotte
19 Villanova
20 Oklahoma
21 Alabama
22 Cincinnati
23 Wisconsin
24 Pittsburgh
25 Nevada

[seekupig]

looks good with the exception of Kentucky, but that topic has been beaten to death so i'll leave it alone for now.........

[clayj41]

I think it looks about right.

[watchtower41]

looks good with the exception of Kentucky, but that topic has been beaten to death so i'll leave it alone for now.........



I think Kentucky gets bonus points for taking that game at 'Bama that they were expected to lose..... I'd imagine many voters watched that game with a national tv audience

[Third Floor]

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/columnists/dp-73914cm0feb28,0,2628358.column?coll=dp-sports-columnists

a nice article about wake after the uva game.

[seekupig]

I think Kentucky gets bonus points for taking that game at 'Bama that they were expected to lose..... I'd imagine many voters watched that game with a national tv audience

i'm sure they did, but they still shouldn't be ahead of Wake Forest.

[Third Floor]

damn straight.

[watchtower41]

Last installment of bracketology..... can u tell I'm all about college hops again???

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

[seekupig]

Last installment of bracketology..... can u tell I'm all about college hops again???

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

nice. UK and KU in the same bracket. i would love to see a rematch in that game, but Georgia Tech in the second round would be brutal for the 1 seed Wildcats. as long as Keith Bogans can stay healthy, they should be alright though.:D

[UNC41]

nice. UK and KU in the same bracket. i would love to see a rematch in that game, but Georgia Tech in the second round would be brutal for the 1 seed Wildcats. as long as Keith Bogans can stay healthy, they should be alright though.:D

Ba Dum Ching :lol

[UNC41]

Last installment of bracketology..... can u tell I'm all about college hops again???

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

Right now my gut tells me that Illinois, UNC, UConn, and either Louisville or Wake make it to St. Louis out of that bracket.

[ousooner]

nice. UK and KU in the same bracket. i would love to see a rematch in that game, but Georgia Tech in the second round would be brutal for the 1 seed Wildcats. as long as Keith Bogans can stay healthy, they should be alright though.:D

:lol

[seekupig]

Right now my gut tells me that Illinois, UNC, UConn, and either Louisville or Wake make it to St. Louis out of that bracket.

UCONN? gimme that rep point back........;)

my four right now would be...........

Illinois
Kansas
Wake Forest
Oklahoma St. (they match up very nicely with the Tar Heels)

[ousooner]

New AP poll.......

1 Illinois
2 North Carolina
3 Kentucky
4 Wake Forest
5 Boston College
6 Duke
7 Kansas
8 Oklahoma State
9 Louisville
10 Washington
11 Arizona
12 Gonzaga
13 Syracuse
14 Michigan State
15 Connecticut
16 Utah
17 Pacific
18 Charlotte
19 Villanova
20 Oklahoma
21 Alabama
22 Cincinnati
23 Wisconsin
24 Pittsburgh
25 Nevada

I guess a win over Kansas doesn't mean much in the polls these days.

[UNC41]

UCONN? gimme that rep point back........;)

my four right now would be...........

Illinois
Kansas
Wake Forest
Oklahoma St. (they match up very nicely with the Tar Heels)

I like UConn because the have the front line to take Simien out of the game. Also, Marcus Williams has really given them a huge lift in the backcourt lately. They've been playing really well lately and that's without Rashad Anderson.

[seekupig]

I guess a win over Kansas doesn't mean much in the polls these days.

they moved from 22 to 20. this late in the season you don't move a lot unless people directly ahead of you lose when you win. Wisconsin, Alabama, and Pitt all lost. OU passed them but was in turn passed themselves by 'Nova who beat Boston College and Georgetown. i'm guessing that was looked at as being more impressive then beating Kansas and thrashing Baylor. I don't necessarily agree with it, but that's probably what happened.

[watchtower41]

This is what Lunardi has to say regarding UK's No. 1 seed....pretty nice vote of confidence for a No 1 seed. If this bracket rings true, the 'Cats would have their hands full with Depaul or GTech......

Kentucky Wildcats No. 1 seed:
No knock on the 'Cats, but they made this move more because others stumbled. This might be a touch high right now.

[watchtower41]

another reason Lunardi gives for UK being ranked over Wake at this point......

Wake Forest Deamon Deacons:

Not sure why "scrimmage" vs. Longwood was scheduled, but it dropped Wake four spots in the RPI and could cost them a No. 1 seed.

[seekupig]

Kentucky Wildcats No. 1 seed:
No knock on the 'Cats, but they made this move more because others stumbled. This might be a touch high right now.

my thoughts exactly. they're not bad, just not as good as a #1 seed should be.

[ousooner]

they moved from 22 to 20. this late in the season you don't move a lot unless people directly ahead of you lose when you win. Wisconsin, Alabama, and Pitt all lost. OU passed them but was in turn passed themselves by 'Nova who beat Boston College and Georgetown. i'm guessing that was looked at as being more impressive then beating Kansas and thrashing Baylor. I don't necessarily agree with it, but that's probably what happened.

I'm just trying to figure out why there is such a big difference between OU and OSU and Kansas in the polls. OU is 21-6 (10-4), OSU 20-5 (10-4) and Kansas is 21-4 (11-3). I'm not suggesting that OU is better or even as good as OSU and Kansas but their record and their performance against those two teams indicates they could be. OU has lost to Duke and Washington out of conference and OSU, Texas Tech, Iowa St, and Missouri in conference. You might call Texas Tech, Iowa St. and Missouri bad losses but Kansas has also lost to Texas Tech and Iowa St and still has a game left with Missouri.

[seekupig]

I'm just trying to figure out why there is such a big difference between OU and OSU and Kansas in the polls. .

a lot of it probably has to do with where they began the year at. you begin to move up or down based off of where you are in the preseason poll. just another reason to do away with preseason polls and wait until week 4 or so for the first poll.

another reason, Strength of Schedule......

Kansas- 1
OSU - 4
OU - 32

[DMBfan41]

Hell yeah, Fairleigh Dickinson! 16 seed going against the undefeated Illini.

I'll be going to Chicago for sure!

[ousooner]

a lot of it probably has to do with where they began the year at. you begin to move up or down based off of where you are in the preseason poll. just another reason to do away with preseason polls and wait until week 4 or so for the first poll.

another reason, Strength of Schedule......

Kansas- 1
OSU - 4
OU - 32

I didn't realize OU's strength of schedule was that low. Makes more sense now.

[clayj41]

Not sure why "scrimmage" vs. Longwood was scheduled, but it dropped Wake four spots in the RPI and could cost them a No. 1 seed.

I'm really questioning why they scheduled that game myself.

[seekupig]

I'm really questioning why they scheduled that game myself.

trying to keep up with Illinois.

[unccrombie]

trying to keep up with Illinois.
no use when illi is undefeated

[seekupig]

no use when illi is undefeated

i was talking about the scheduling of Longwood, not their respective rankings.

(illinois played them earlier in the season)

[watchtower41]

Hell yeah, Fairleigh Dickinson! 16 seed going against the undefeated Illini.

I'll be going to Chicago for sure!



sorry to burst youre bubble, but the first and second round from that region at the RCA Dome in Indy.

[dmb1spe]

I'm going to quit coming in here since apparently some Jayhawk fans can't have their team questioned without giving out negative rep. Figures. About what I would expect from a KU fan. Grow up children.

[unccrombie]

you were getting negative rep points? booo that, +1 for you, stay

[watchtower41]

you werent even a part of this thread up until a few weeks ago....where you came off with a bunch of nonsense and arrogance on how UK is by far the greatest thing that happend to College Hoops. Christan Laettner apparently didnt think so. See ya.

[unccrombie]

you werent even a part of this thread up until a few weeks ago....where you came off with a bunch of nonsense and arrogance on how UK is by far the greatest thing that happend to College Hoops. Christan Laettner apparently didnt think so. See ya.
just voicing his opinion, dont be so sensitive

[Third Floor]

trying to keep up with Illinois.
longwood dropped 79 on the illni, only 47 on wake.

[UNC41]

I'm going to quit coming in here since apparently some Jayhawk fans can't have their team questioned without giving out negative rep. Figures. About what I would expect from a KU fan. Grow up children.

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic because I didn't have a rep point taken away. One thing you are right about is that every team should be able to be questioned by others. Sports discussions wouldn't be nearly as fun without disagreements.

[trippingbilly12]

Oh John Chaney, why did you have to do this? I had respect for your at one point, but come on :ugh

[UNC41]

Oh John Chaney, why did you have to do this? I had respect for your at one point, but come on :ugh

Yeah, I have no idea why he still has a job.

[seekupig]

you were getting negative rep points? booo that, +1 for you, stay

what does a blue light in your rep. mean? i thought there was just green and red, but there's a blue one in my user cp.

[Third Floor]

if no one had gotten hurt, and john chaney hadnt admitted to doing it no one would have cared. coaches do it all the time. i mean why would walk on start an important game and get two fouls in 2 minutes? it happens all the time by alot of coaches.

[seekupig]

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic because I didn't have a rep point taken away.

suprisingly, it wasn't me.

[trippingbilly12]

if no one had gotten hurt, and john chaney hadnt admitted to doing it no one would have cared. coaches do it all the time. i mean why would walk on start an important game and get two fouls in 2 minutes? it happens all the time by alot of coaches.

Ok but a kid DID get hurt and is out for the rest of his senior season, people DO care

[Third Floor]

and? im not saying its ok, but why does chaney get condemned for it, when he comes out admits he was wrong and apolgizes to the player who got hurt, visits him and his family, while it goes unnoticed, and even encouraged other places?

[trippingbilly12]

and? im not saying its ok, but why does chaney get condemned for it, when he comes out admits he was wrong and apolgizes to the player who got hurt, visits him and his family, while it goes unnoticed, and even encouraged other places?

I am not saying he should be fired, but are you saying that he shouldn't get suspended at all? He gets condemmed for it because he gave the order, and a player got severley hurt

[UNC41]

if no one had gotten hurt, and john chaney hadnt admitted to doing it no one would have cared. coaches do it all the time. i mean why would walk on start an important game and get two fouls in 2 minutes? it happens all the time by alot of coaches.

If Chaney hadn't admitted to doing it nobody could prove that was his intent. Giving Chaney a slap on the wrist and allowing him to keep his job is like saying that incidents like that aren't a problem in college basketball and can be condoned.

[mizzoudmbfan]

I'm just trying to figure out why there is such a big difference between OU and OSU and Kansas in the polls. OU is 21-6 (10-4), OSU 20-5 (10-4) and Kansas is 21-4 (11-3). I'm not suggesting that OU is better or even as good as OSU and Kansas but their record and their performance against those two teams indicates they could be. OU has lost to Duke and Washington out of conference and OSU, Texas Tech, Iowa St, and Missouri in conference. You might call Texas Tech, Iowa St. and Missouri bad losses but Kansas has also lost to Texas Tech and Iowa St and still has a game left with Missouri.

As you already stated you lost to Mizzou, anyone that loses to us this season dosnt deserve to be ranked...trust me, I've watched us all season long. If we played Illinois tommorow and beat them, they should fall out of the rankings.:rolleyes

some Jayhawk fans can't have their team questioned without giving out negative rep. Figures. About what I would expect from a KU fan.

I guees I'm just used too it. When you have King Roy for as long as they did you get used to all the excuses and therefor actually begin to think that the lies are all true.;)

[UNC41]

I am not saying he should be fired, but are you saying that he shouldn't get suspended at all? He gets condemmed for it because he gave the order, and a player got severley hurt

He did get suspended, for three whole games...

[Third Floor]

he suspended himself, something that NO other coach in the NCAA would do. he should be looked upon as an example for that. should he be suspended yes, i think the punishment that he got is appropriate. but people are questioning why he hasnt been fired, not that temple would ever fire him, or why the punishment wasnt worse.

[trippingbilly12]

He did get suspended, for three whole games...

i know that, im talking about how some people want him fired

[Third Floor]

If Chaney hadn't admitted to doing it nobody could prove that was his intent. Giving Chaney a slap on the wrist and allowing him to keep his job is like saying that incidents like that aren't a problem in college basketball and can be condoned.
you cant fire chaney. would/is duke going to fire coach k for doing similar tactics? no. its out of the question. this happens in basketball, people are told to go out there and play rough. it happens everywhere. is that a good thing? but why focus on cheney, who knows what he did is wrong and took actions against himself. why not focus on coaches who dont admit their intents and continue with this practice.

[trippingbilly12]

I am not saying stuff like this doesn't happen, (coaches telling guys to go in and get physical) but the fact that a senior can't even play the rest of his season because of a fractured arm makes the situation a little different

[UNC41]

So if Ron Artest had said I suspend myself 15 games than that's all his punishment should have been?

[trippingbilly12]

So if Ron Artest had said I suspend myself 15 games than that's all his punishment should have been?

exactly

[Third Floor]

injuries are a part of sports. this one coul dhave been avoided, and thus is tragic, but there are numerous seniors in the same position as him. do i feel for him, yes,

[trippingbilly12]

injuries are a part of sports. this one coul dhave been avoided, and thus is tragic, but there are numerous seniors in the same position as him. do i feel for him, yes,

you didn't answer the question

[Third Floor]

So if Ron Artest had said I suspend myself 15 games than that's all his punishment should have been?
if i made up a completely bullshit analogy to prove a point, but fail miserably, would you agree with me?

my point is that telling players to get physical, and overly physical happens in many programs in college basketball, cheney is only one to come out and admit that his actions were wrong. do players in most nba teams attack fans in the stands? thats where your argument lost any hope of being useful. stop viewing cheney's actions as an exception.

[Third Floor]

you didn't answer the question
you said that because a guy got hurt, the situation was different. thats not a question my friend.

[trippingbilly12]

if i made up a completely bullshit analogy to prove a point, but fail miserably, would you agree with me?

my point is that telling players to get physical, and overly physical happens in many programs in college basketball, cheney is only one to come out and admit that his actions were wrong. do players in most nba teams attack fans in the stands? thats where your argument lost any hope of being useful. stop viewing cheney's actions as an exception.

but how many other times have those orders given by coaches resulted in injuries like this?

[trippingbilly12]

So if Ron Artest had said I suspend myself 15 games than that's all his punishment should have been?

I am pretty sure that is a question my friend...

[Third Floor]

but how many other times have those orders given by coaches resulted in injuries like this?
because an injury occured doenst change it. the intent of the coach is what should be punished. if players got into finghts all the time, but didnt throw punches that connected, ala alonzo and larry johnson a while back, should the be punished? i mean yeah they broke the rules, but no one really got hurt because of it, i mean the punches didnt land. you punish the intent, not what was happened.

[trippingbilly12]

because an injury occured doenst change it. the intent of the coach is what should be punished. if players got into finghts all the time, but didnt throw punches that connected, ala alonzo and larry johnson a while back, should the be punished? i mean yeah they broke the rules, but no one really got hurt because of it, i mean the punches didnt land. you punish the intent, not what was happened.

so what would be an appropriate punishment for chaney in your mind?

[seekupig]

since some people are having their cyber-feelings hurt by negative rep points that i didn't give out, but are associated with me anyways, i'm going to do you a favor and leave for a little while. although i do find it kind of ironic that i found this is a message in one of the negative posts in my user cp............

Greatest Hits Album....... (http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?p=2586871#post2586871)02-27-2005 02:26 -KU sucks! Bye number one seed.

which sounds a lot like this.........
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posted by dmb1spe-

Say it with me...

*FIVE STRAIGHT LOSSES


and


*FOUR SEED AT BEST
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you can keep running over to DMBc and giving me neg rep. if you want, then come back here and cry about some KU fan doing it to you. either way, i don't give a shit.

see you all on selection sunday.......

[Third Floor]

well, if you read what i said, the punishment he has in appropriate. he misses the rest of the regular season, temples not going to any post season tournements. i think the ncaa should take a look at actions like this in the ncaa, make a rule that can then not be enforeced because no players is going to tattle on his coach for telling him to go out there and foul hard. if cheney didnt suspend himself, would anything have happened? cheney took a step that no coach out there will take

[trippingbilly12]

well, if you read what i said, the punishment he has in appropriate. he misses the rest of the regular season, temples not going to any post season tournements. i think the ncaa should take a look at actions like this in the ncaa, make a rule that can then not be enforeced because no players is going to tattle on his coach for telling him to go out there and foul hard. if cheney didnt suspend himself, would anything have happened? cheney took a step that no coach out there will take

well he suspended himself for the atlantic 10 tourney, but was suspended by the school for the rest of the regular season

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2002082

[trippingbilly12]

since some people are having their cyber-feelings hurt by negative rep points that i didn't give out, but are associated with me anyways, i'm going to do you a favor and leave for a little while. although i do find it kind of ironic that i found this is a message in one of the negative posts in my user cp............

Greatest Hits Album....... (http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?p=2586871#post2586871)02-27-2005 02:26 -KU sucks! Bye number one seed.

which sounds a lot like this.........
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posted by dmb1spe-

Say it with me...

*FIVE STRAIGHT LOSSES


and


*FOUR SEED AT BEST
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you can keep running over to DMBc and giving me neg rep. if you want, then come back here and cry about some KU fan doing it to you. either way, i don't give a shit.

see you all on selection sunday.......

LETS TAKE AWAY REP POINTS BECAUSE YOUR TEAM LOST BAKSETBALL GAMES!!!! WE ARE SO KICKASS

[Third Floor]

well he suspended himself for the atlantic 10 tourney, but was suspended by the school for the rest of the regular season

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2002082
acutally he suspended himself for the next game, temple added 2 games to that, making it the rest of the regular season, and no the a10 tourney. cheney knows what he did was wrong, other coaches could learn alot from this guy. he has earned alot of respect from me for this action

[UNC41]

Playing physical is one thing, but Ingram went in there and was throwing elbows all over the place. He fouled out in four minutes. That's committing a foul less than once every minute. It may happen, but players don't get sent into the game and play like Ingram did as often as you think. Playing physical is one thing, but he was beyond that.

Also, what player in their right mind would want to play for a coach who has no problem referring to his players as goons.

[trippingbilly12]

acutally he suspended himself for the next game, temple added 2 games to that, making it the rest of the regular season, and no the a10 tourney. cheney knows what he did was wrong, other coaches could learn alot from this guy. he has earned alot of respect from me for this action

i agree what he did about suspending himself was right, but this could have all been avoided in the first place. The problem is that it wasn't, he gave the order and the poor kid is out for the season

[trippingbilly12]

Also, what player in their right mind would want to play for a coach who has no problem referring to his players as goons.

no kidding, well then again I go to high school with a kid who is getting full ride to play at Tech next year under Knight. Similar situation

[watchtower41]

just voicing his opinion, dont be so sensitive


his opinion matters not to me, but whining about losing rep points??? Sorry, that's just not something I lose sleep over. Why should I be concerned about someone announcing that they are leaving this thread??? Shit, despite being a total jag, I backed his team....certainly not based off any insightful comments


I'm just here for the great college hoops discussion :freak

[dmb1spe]

since some people are having their cyber-feelings hurt by negative rep points that i didn't give out, but are associated with me anyways, i'm going to do you a favor and leave for a little while. although i do find it kind of ironic that i found this is a message in one of the negative posts in my user cp............

Greatest Hits Album....... (http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?p=2586871#post2586871)02-27-2005 02:26 -KU sucks! Bye number one seed.

which sounds a lot like this.........
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posted by dmb1spe-

Say it with me...

*FIVE STRAIGHT LOSSES


and


*FOUR SEED AT BEST
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you can keep running over to DMBc and giving me neg rep. if you want, then come back here and cry about some KU fan doing it to you. either way, i don't give a shit.

see you all on selection sunday.......

Actually, I didn't give you negatice rep. I enjoy spirited sports discussion. And besides, if everyone didn't have their favorite, life would be pretty dog gone boring.

And for the poster who said I just started hanging out in here, I have almost 100 posts in this thread (just out of the top 10 most frequent posters). And I'm quite sure a majority of them were fairly neutral and/or insightful.

[mizzoudmbfan]

I dont know if anyone cares but the rumor on StL sports radio is that Coach Snyder will be out after the completion of the season. Saying that he has a deal the Denver Nuggets who are owned by non other than Columbia's very own Stan Kroenke...huh thats weird:rolleyes.

As of now it is all speculation. Slaten, the radio host who is reporting this is highly suspect, but some of the stations on the west side of the state are beginning to look into it.
I hope this is finally the day that all kU and Illini fans have been dreading:multi...we'll see.


Rob

[dmb1spe]

why would ku and illini fans dread mizzou's coach leaving?

[MarkDMB]

why would ku and illini fans dread mizzou's coach leaving?

We dread Synder leaving because he sucks, and that's two wins for KU and a win for Illinios.

It's not the dread of someone leaving, its wondering who they might get to replace him.

[UNC41]

Actually, I didn't give you negatice rep. I enjoy spirited sports discussion. And besides, if everyone didn't have their favorite, life would be pretty dog gone boring.

And for the poster who said I just started hanging out in here, I have almost 100 posts in this thread (just out of the top 10 most frequent posters). And I'm quite sure a majority of them were fairly neutral and/or insightful.

How do you see who has posted most in a thread?

[dmb1spe]

haha... nice. UK feels the same way about Mike Davis at Indiana. As it stands now Davis couldn't coach a two car funeral.

[dmb1spe]

How do you see who has posted most in a thread?

On the main ndmbc page, simply click on the nuber of replies in a thread. Should take you right to it! :)

[mizzoudmbfan]

We dread Synder leaving because he sucks, and that's two wins for KU and a win for Illinios.

It's not the dread of someone leaving, its wondering who they might get to replace him.

:thumbsup

[trippingbilly12]

On the main ndmbc page, simply click on the nuber of replies in a thread. Should take you right to it! :)

geez you learn something new about ants everyday :)

[trippingbilly12]

haven't they been calling for snyders head for awhile now?

[UNC41]

haha... nice. UK feels the same way about Mike Davis at Indiana. As it stands now Davis couldn't coach a two car funeral.

He's done a pretty good job this year after playing a horrific schedule to start the year with a freshman heavy team. I think they might dance in March, which is impressive after their start.

[trippingbilly12]

pitt is playing pretty darn good right now. If they keep it up, this will be a nice upet of BC

[watchtower41]

haha... nice. UK feels the same way about Mike Davis at Indiana. As it stands now Davis couldn't coach a two car funeral.


:rolleyes
He's been to a Final Four and a Championship game more recent than Kentucky. Thanks for the "meanie" comment. :multi


BC Eagles, we hardly knew ya. :lol

[trippingbilly12]

BC Eagles, we hardly knew ya. :lol

no kidding, they just got rocked

[dmb1spe]

:rolleyes
He's been to a Final Four and a Championship game more recent than Kentucky. Thanks for the "meanie" comment. :multi


BC Eagles, we hardly knew ya. :lol

Meanie? Don't get it.


And FYI... the Davis team that went to the championship was all Knight's players. That argument was used to say Tubby wasn't a march coach because he won a title with Pitino's players. Either Davis sucks or Tubby doesn't... can't have it both ways.

[ousooner]

I love Ron Franklin, but you can definitely notice his Texas favoritism come out when he's calling the Whorns. I noticed it tonight and last week when he called the Texas-Texas Tech game. I'm not sure if he's a Texas alum or what his ties are, but I've heard something about him and Texas before and I know he lives in Texas.

[dmb1spe]

I think Franklin went to Ole Miss and is a Mississippi native.

[trippingbilly12]

I think Franklin went to Ole Miss and is a Mississippi native.

i like this trio of analysts. Esp Digger

[ousooner]

I think Franklin went to Ole Miss and is a Mississippi native.

I tried to find his bio online. The only thing I could find was that he is a Mississippi native and currently lives in Texas. I couldn't find where he went to school.

[dmb1spe]

I don't think I read it anywhere. I think I picked it up in one of my journalism classes. But I may be way off.

[unccrombie]

what does a blue light in your rep. mean? i thought there was just green and red, but there's a blue one in my user cp.
no clue

[ousooner]

Payback! How sweet it is! Texas came into Norman and won two years ago on Senior Night in the last home game for Hollis Price.

[unccrombie]

texas was good 2 years ago

[UNC41]

Payback! How sweet it is! Texas came into Norman and won two years ago on Senior Night in the last home game for Hollis Price.

Hollis Price, great college player. I wonder whatever happened to him.

[unccrombie]

Hollis Price, great college player. I wonder whatever happened to him.
so was maurice clarett

[ousooner]

texas was good 2 years ago

They were a Final Four team two years ago.

[ousooner]

so was maurice clarett

Come on, you gotta be kidding me comparing Hollis Price to Maurice Clarett. Any team would be lucky to have a Hollis Price. I don't know if I've ever seen a guy improve from his freshman year to senior year as much as Hollis Price did. He was not only a great player but a great person. Kelvin Sampson actually cried on Senior Night when they introduced Hollis.

Hollis Price, great college player. I wonder whatever happened to him.

He got a couple of NBA tryouts but wasn't able to stick. I believe he's playing in Europe.

[UNC41]

so was maurice clarett

:lol :lol

[trippingbilly12]

so was maurice clarett

anyone see his 40 times?

geeeeez

[unccrombie]

Come on, you gotta be kidding me comparing Hollis Price to Maurice Clarett. Any team would be lucky to have a Hollis Price. I don't know if I've ever seen a guy improve from his freshman year to senior year as much as Hollis Price did. He was not only a great player but a great person. Kelvin Sampson actually cried on Senior Night when they introduced Hollis.



He got a couple of NBA tryouts but wasn't able to stick. I believe he's playing in Europe.
maurice clarett owned college football until he opened his fat mouth

[unccrombie]

on a happy note, happy summer tour dates yall

[ousooner]

on a happy note, happy summer tour dates yall

maurice clarett owned college football until he opened his fat mouth


Maurice Clarett didn't do a single thing in his college career by the rule book. He was taking gifts and getting a free ride from the very beginning. Doing things the way he did and only playing one season doesn't make a guy a great college player.

Tour dates suck. Everything is on the East or West coast. I have to drive five hours or more to see a show. During the week also. Sorry for the rant, but it sucks every year.

[trippingbilly12]

Maurice Clarett didn't do a single thing in his college career by the rule book. He was taking gifts and getting a free ride from the very beginning. Doing things the way he did and only playing one season doesn't make a guy a great college player.

Tour dates suck. Everything is on the East or West coast. I have to drive five hours or more to see a show. During the week also. Sorry for the rant, but it sucks every year.

i thought okc might get a show this year at the ford center, guess not though.

Are you going to make the trip to the texas shows?

[unccrombie]

are you kidding? he was on pace to be a great running back no matter what he did. it's his own fault for bad mouthing ohio state. once he did that all his secrets came out

[watchtower41]

Come on, you gotta be kidding me comparing Hollis Price to Maurice Clarett. Any team would be lucky to have a Hollis Price. I don't know if I've ever seen a guy improve from his freshman year to senior year as much as Hollis Price did. He was not only a great player but a great person. Kelvin Sampson actually cried on Senior Night when they introduced Hollis.




I loved that Oklahoma team..... they really grew on me watching them in the BIg XII tourney back when I went to KU during that run.....I remember talking with a bunch of Sonner faithful and alums, great fans.... we even stuck around in the Sooner section with all our KU gear on during the OU/OKSt game. Hollis was the man. Ebi Ere, Gilbert.... and Jahbari Brown... damn that kid had mass potential.

[ousooner]

i thought okc might get a show this year at the ford center, guess not though.

Are you going to make the trip to the texas shows?

I'm not a big fan of the Ford Center. I wish we had a good amphitheatre around here.

If I have to I'll head for the Texas shows. I've seen five shows in Dallas and two at The Woodlands so I would like to hit some new venues if I can. I love Sandstone in Bonner Springs, so I will try to make that one. Also, my brother and sister in law live in Dayton, OH and I haven't been to visit yet so it my be a good time to visit around the Columbus shows and Deer Creek Shows. They are 45 minutes from Columbus and an hour and a half from Indianapolis.

[ousooner]

I loved that Oklahoma team..... they really grew on me watching them in the BIg XII tourney back when I went to KU during that run.....I remember talking with a bunch of Sonner faithful and alums, great fans.... we even stuck around in the Sooner section with all our KU gear on during the OU/OKSt game. Hollis was the man. Ebi Ere, Gilbert.... and Jahbari Brown... damn that kid had mass potential.

Yes they were fun to watch. They played such ferocious defense. The team the year before was fun to watch too with Daryan Selvy and Aaron McGee with Ere, Price, and Quanas White. I was so disappointed when they lost in the Final Four to Indiana. We would have drawn Maryland in the championship game, a team we already beat that year in Norman when they came in ranked #2.

I still haven't figured out why Jahbari Brown never developed. He had such great athletic ability.

[gbs3769]

That was the year that we were the Big XII and National Champs.

3-17 and 8 points in the East Regionals no doubt...

- Matt

[ousooner]

That was the year that we were the Big XII and National Champs.

3-17 and 8 points in the East Regionals no doubt...

- Matt


I never understood why OU as the 1 seed ended up playing 3 seed Syracuse in Albany that year. You would think that they wouldn't send a 3 seed to a region where they would have such a decided home court advantage over a 1 seed in the regional final. Really, how many Oklahoma fans did the committee think would be making that trip?

[jermtheworm]

east coast bs dude, i missed the game last night cause of class, heard we looked good

[ousooner]

east coast bs dude, i missed the game last night cause of class, heard we looked good

Yep, it was pretty impressive. OU dominated most of the game. They were a 2pt dog playing on senior night. Good win!

[jermtheworm]

outside chance of winning/tying for conference champs?

[jermtheworm]

by the way, nothing close to us for tour dates. kc? or san antonio? which sounds better to you?

[ousooner]

outside chance of winning/tying for conference champs?

I think so. Winning at Tech seems a lot more realistic now then it did a couple of weeks ago. And you never know what might happen in a rivalry game like Kansas-Missouri. Especially in Columbia.

[trippingbilly12]

by the way, nothing close to us for tour dates. kc? or san antonio? which sounds better to you?

san antonio :thumbsup

[jermtheworm]

I think so. Winning at Tech seems a lot more realistic now then it did a couple of weeks ago. And you never know what might happen in a rivalry game like Kansas-Missouri. Especially in Columbia.

ku/mu in columbia you never know. mu is down but that's what makes rivalries fun, tech will be tough

[ousooner]

by the way, nothing close to us for tour dates. kc? or san antonio? which sounds better to you?

I've never been to San Antonio and I love Sandstone. Great tailgating, great venue. I'd go with KC. You can hit the casinos in KC too.

[jermtheworm]

san antonio :thumbsup

yea? good spot to see a show huh

[jermtheworm]

I've never been to San Antonio and I love Sandstone. Great tailgating, great venue. I'd go with KC. You can hit the casinos in KC too.


Sandstone? is that kc

[ousooner]

Yep. I think they call it Verizon Wireless or something like that now. It's in Bonner Springs between KC and Lawrence.

[jermtheworm]

Yep. I think they call it Verizon Wireless or something like that now. It's in Bonner Springs between KC and Lawrence.

thanks!

[jermtheworm]

i'm looking forward to the kansas/mizzou game, i love rivalry games

[trippingbilly12]

yea? good spot to see a show huh

i just said san antonio bceause i'm from texas. Its a pretty good venue, nothing incredible.

[ousooner]

Sandstone is out on the edge of town. It has a rural scene and feel to it. It's a few miles from the Nascar track, Kansas Speedway or whatever it is. It's really nice compared to an amphitheatre in the middle of the city like Starplex in Dallas that is at the fairgrounds where the Cotton Bowl is at.

[jermtheworm]

i just said san antonio bceause i'm from texas. Its a pretty good venue, nothing incredible.

at least your honest, ford center okc sucked but is my home town so obliged and went

[jermtheworm]

do you guys know any good baseball chat on the site?

[trippingbilly12]

Sandstone is out on the edge of town. It has a rural scene and feel to it. It's a few miles from the Nascar track, Kansas Speedway or whatever it is. It's really nice compared to an amphitheatre in the middle of the city like Starplex in Dallas that is at the fairgrounds where the Cotton Bowl is at.

starplex just blows. Bad area of town, decent sound, ugly amphitheatre.
Actually the venue in San Antonio is simliar to sandstone. Its pretty far out from the city, in somewhat of a rural area.

[ousooner]

at least your honest, ford center okc sucked but is my home town so obliged and went

Ford Center was the worst show I have been to. It may have been because I just saw the Sandstone show two nights earlier. I really do not like indoor shows. Why be inside on a summer evening when you can be outside?

[jermtheworm]

Ford Center was the worst show I have been to. It may have been because I just saw the Sandstone show two nights earlier. I really do not like indoor shows. Why be inside on a summer evening when you can be outside?

i say it sucked,but it was my first so it is special. but i agree why be inside, i'm looking for outdoor show/shows this year. gues joe c won't be letting anyone on owen field.

[trippingbilly12]

Ford Center was the worst show I have been to. It may have been because I just saw the Sandstone show two nights earlier. I really do not like indoor shows. Why be inside on a summer evening when you can be outside?

i hear that. I love being outside on a summer night waiting for the boys to come on :thumbsup

Didn't that OKC show get the first watchtower of the tour?

[onemoredrink41]

Uk wins sec too bad the sec sucks......

[jermtheworm]

i hear that. I love being outside on a summer night waiting for the boys to come on :thumbsup

Didn't that OKC show get the first watchtower of the tour?

yes it did, it was a pretty good set, had some oldies like satellite, typical situation,minerets, and one sweet world. also had star spangled banner intro to watchtower.

[jermtheworm]

Uk wins sec too bad the sec sucks......


congrats anyway!

[trippingbilly12]

yes it did, it was a pretty good set, had some oldies like satellite, typical situation,minerets, and one sweet world. also had star spangled banner intro to watchtower.

nice nice, I wanted to go to that show but I couldn't for some reason

[jermtheworm]

the set list wasn't the problem, from what i understand if you were in the upper deck the vocals were muffled out and the sound was blurred together. i sat in club section and had a pretty good view, but being inside was the problem. i hear you have to go to an outside show to truly appreciate the band.

[ousooner]

i hear that. I love being outside on a summer night waiting for the boys to come on :thumbsup

Didn't that OKC show get the first watchtower of the tour?

No, Dallas three nights later was the first Watchtower of the tour at American Airlines. I was about ten rows up near the stage and got to the floor for the encore. That was my greatest run. Three shows in six nights. KC, OKC, and Dallas.

i say it sucked,but it was my first so it is special. but i agree why be inside, i'm looking for outdoor show/shows this year. gues joe c won't be letting anyone on owen field.

I don't think there has been a show on Owen Field since the Stones played there. Great show!

[ousooner]

the set list wasn't the problem, from what i understand if you were in the upper deck the vocals were muffled out and the sound was blurred together. i sat in club section and had a pretty good view, but being inside was the problem. i hear you have to go to an outside show to truly appreciate the band.

Plus I thought the crowd really sucked. Probably why they haven't been back.

[trippingbilly12]

No, Dallas three nights later was the first Watchtower of the tour at American Airlines. I was about ten rows up near the stage and got to the floor for the encore. That was my greatest run. Three shows in six nights. KC, OKC, and Dallas.

Oklahoma city got the first watchtower of the tour

http://www.dmbalmanac.com/tourshowset.asp?id=453055983&tid=72&where=2003

Dallas got the 2nd

[ousooner]

Oklahoma city got the first watchtower of the tour

http://www.dmbalmanac.com/tourshowset.asp?id=453055983&tid=72&where=2003

Dallas got the 2nd

You're right. I guess that slipped my memory or that show was really forgetable.

[trippingbilly12]

You're right. I guess that slipped my memory or that show was really forgetable.

:lol the one in dallas was pretty damn good though.

I still have trouble believing I got to see last stop live. It was beautifullllllll

[ousooner]

Uk wins sec too bad the sec sucks......

The SEC is really down this year for some reason. How many teams are they projected to get into the tournament?

[jermtheworm]

No, Dallas three nights later was the first Watchtower of the tour at American Airlines. I was about ten rows up near the stage and got to the floor for the encore. That was my greatest run. Three shows in six nights. KC, OKC, and Dallas.

that is a great run of shows, was dallas before okc on that tour? they did play watchtower at okc, have it on the cd you sent me. :)



I don't think there has been a show on Owen Field since the Stones played there. Great show!

i remember that,didn't go but had plenty of friends that snuck in

[seekupig]

The SEC is really down this year for some reason. How many teams are they projected to get into the tournament?

five.

[ousooner]

I keep waiting for Arkansas to get back to being a major player in the SEC.

[seekupig]

I keep waiting for Arkansas to get back to being a major player in the SEC.

they haven't been good for awhile.

teams projected to make it in........

Kentucky
LSU
Alabama
Mississippi St.
Florida

[ousooner]

they haven't been good for awhile.

teams projected to make it in........

Kentucky
LSU
Alabama
Mississippi St.
Florida

I know, but they won a national championship and played for another ten or eleven years ago.

[seekupig]

I know, but they won a national championship and played for another ten or eleven years ago.

they beat Duke in '94 for the title. they had some good teams back in the early-mid 90's. since Nolan left, they haven't been able to bounce back though.

[seekupig]

Indiana just about knocked themselves out of the tournament tonite. poorly officiated game down the stretch, IU loses by 2 on a buzzer beater at Wisconsin. tough break.

[bdb23]

Indiana just about knocked themselves out of the tournament tonite. poorly officiated game down the stretch, IU loses by 2 on a buzzer beater at Wisconsin. tough break.
Agreed.

[seekupig]

Agreed.

you can read more about it in the thread someone just started about Indiana getting shit on by the refs......:confused

[trippingbilly12]

you can read more about it in the thread someone just started about Indiana getting shit on by the refs......:confused

i put a link to this thread in there, what happened with the refs though?

[EatSleepJeep]

Gopher fans ain't complaining about what happened to Indiana tonight. Not one bit. Nope.



i put a link to this thread in there, what happened with the refs though?

I paid them off.

[trippingbilly12]

Gopher fans ain't complaining about what happened to Indiana tonight. Not one bit. Nope.





I paid them off.

clever, seriously what happened

[seekupig]

clever, seriously what happened

there were more than a few questionable calls towards the end. touch fouls being called when Wisconsin had the ball, come back down the court, IU player gets ass-raped.....no call. the main one, an IU player got an offensive rebound with the game tied, got hacked on the arms going back up with it.......refs didn't call it Wisconsin takes the ball down for the game winning play.

[EatSleepJeep]

there were more than a few questionable calls towards the end. touch fouls being called when Wisconsin had the ball, come back down the court, IU player gets ass-raped.....no call. the main one, an IU player got an offensive rebound with the game tied, got hacked on the arms going back up with it.......refs didn't call it Wisconsin takes the ball down for the game winning play.

That's the long and short of it...

[chiznaz]

come on Aggies.... we just need a road win at @OSU to got a decent shot at the big dance :lol or win out the Big 12 tourny:lol


either way... Billy Gillispie has taken this program on a 180 and we actually have a basketball team now. 0-16 in the Big 12 last year to a 8-8 possibly 9-7 record this year.

[mizzoudmbfan]

come on Aggies.... we just need a road win at @OSU to got a decent shot at the big dance :lol or win out the Big 12 tourny:lol


either way... Billy Gillispie has taken this program on a 180 and we actually have a basketball team now. 0-16 in the Big 12 last year to a 8-8 possibly 9-7 record this year.

You can have Melvin back, he drug his bad luck up here to Columbia. We're 6-8 and feelin great!!:D:ugh
Good luck vs the Pokes.

Rob

[chiznaz]

You can have Melvin back, he drug his bad luck up here to Columbia. We're 6-8 and feelin great!!:D:ugh
Good luck vs the Pokes.

Rob
:lol nah we've being dealing with Magical Melvin for way too long. However he did bring Antoine Wright to us. Maybe he can do something like that for the Tigers.

[seekupig]

looks as if brackets may be harder than ever to fill out this year. looking at potential 2nd rd. matchups for the 1/2 seeds, there are a lot of matchups that could spell upset for a lot of them. history tells us that at least one if not more of these teams won't make it past the first weekend, but who will it be this year? here are some possibilities based on ESPN's bracketology...........

CHICAGO
1. Illinois vs. 8. Nevada / 9. Maryland
2. Duke vs. 10. Florida
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ALBUQUERQUE
1. Kentucky vs. 8. DePaul / 9. Georgia Tech
2. Kansas vs. 7. Wisconsin / 10. Mississippi St.
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SYRACUSE
1. UNC vs. 8. UCLA / 9. Texas
2. B.C. vs. 7. Texas Tech / 10. Minnesota
------------------------------------------------
AUSTIN
1. Wake vs. 8. Stanford / 9. Notre Dame
2. Oklahoma St. vs. 7. LSU / 10. Georgetown
------------------------------------------------

judging from this i'd say that Syracuse and Austin seem like the easier roads, but a lot can change between now and then...........

[UNC41]

looks as if brackets may be harder than ever to fill out this year. looking at potential 2nd rd. matchups for the 1/2 seeds, there are a lot of matchups that could spell upset for a lot of them. history tells us that at least one if not more of these teams won't make it past the first weekend, but who will it be this year? here are some possibilities based on ESPN's bracketology...........

CHICAGO
1. Illinois vs. 8. Nevada / 9. Maryland
2. Duke vs. 10. Florida
-----------------------------------------------
ALBUQUERQUE
1. Kentucky vs. 8. DePaul / 9. Georgia Tech
2. Kansas vs. 7. Wisconsin / 10. Mississippi St.
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SYRACUSE
1. UNC vs. 8. UCLA / 9. Texas
2. B.C. vs. 7. Texas Tech / 10. Minnesota
------------------------------------------------
AUSTIN
1. Wake vs. 8. Stanford / 9. Notre Dame
2. Oklahoma St. vs. 7. LSU / 10. Georgetown
------------------------------------------------

judging from this i'd say that Syracuse and Austin seem like the easier roads, but a lot can change between now and then...........

Teams I wouldn't want to see are Maryland, GT, and Wisconsin.

[seekupig]

Teams I wouldn't want to see are Maryland, GT, and Wisconsin.

yeah, and i'd add Nevada and Texas Tech to that list as well......

[dmb1spe]

Nevada is tough... saw them play the other night. The thing about 'sconsin GT and the Terps are you never know what team you're going to face. They're as likely to get beat by 20 as they are to beat you by 20.

[seekupig]

The thing about 'sconsin GT and the Terps are you never know what team you're going to face. They're as likely to get beat by 20 as they are to beat you by 20.

that's what's scary. Maryland has a thing for playing to the level of their competition, G.Tech has a lot to prove after their Final Four run and high expectations for this season, Wisconsin isn't as scary to me, simply because they're not the same team when not at home, but you never know......

[UNC41]

yeah, and i'd add Nevada and Texas Tech to that list as well......

I haven't seen Nevada play this year, but I'd agree with Tech also.

[UNC41]

Nevada is tough... saw them play the other night. The thing about 'sconsin GT and the Terps are you never know what team you're going to face. They're as likely to get beat by 20 as they are to beat you by 20.

That's precisely why I wouldn't want to play them.

[gbs3769]

The one team I would not want to face in the tournament is Villanova. Those kids can flat out play.

- Matt

[seekupig]

The one team I would not want to face in the tournament is Villanova. Those kids can flat out play.

- Matt

:mad

[watchtower41]

The one team I would not want to face in the tournament is Villanova. Those kids can flat out play.

- Matt


I agree, I expect to see them in the Sweet 16

[unccrombie]

Teams I wouldn't want to see are Maryland, GT, and Wisconsin.
i wouldn't want villanova in my half of the bracket

[rcarlsn612]

this just doesn't look good for the heels- taken from the official athletic dep. site @ http://tarheelblue.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/030105aab.html

There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding about the nature of Rashad's illness. It's only natural to hear "virus" and think of something like the flu, an ailment that goes away if you give it enough time. McCants doesn't have the flu. He's got something more nagging, something doctors have been trying to pinpoint for a couple of weeks. It hasn't completely bedridden him--he attended the team meal before the squad departed for Maryland on Saturday but looked terrible--but it's sapped him of quite a bit of energy.

Every Carolina fan in the world wants to know a timeline for his return. There is no timeline for his return. Don't read more into that than is there--it simply means it's not something that can be projected with concrete certainty. Carolina's team doctors have identified the problem and are treating it. But he won't simply wake up one morning and feel better and be able to walk out on the court that night. It's a multiple-step process: identify the problem, treat it, Rashad has to feel better, he has to feel well enough to practice, and he has to regain the strength and conditioning he's lost over the past two weeks while he hasn't been eating very much. Some of those hurdles have been cleared, but some haven't. Once all those things are checked off the list, he'll be able to play. Roy Williams said last night on his radio show he didn't expect Rashad to play Thursday night against Florida State. That's not an official announcement, just Williams's expectation. We're likely to know more about his status for Duke on Friday afternoon.

Should they just leave him out until maybe the semi's of the acc so he can get his strength back? I really think they can handle duke at home without him. but all in all a horrible situation for unc

[unccrombie]

well considering duke's without dockery, i dont think missing mccants will hurt too much. they do however lose the chance to run them out of the building :(

[RJ2kWJ]

Ill take whatever advantage we can get. :D

[gbs3769]

:mad

You know it's true. At least I didn't say Rutgers. :eek

I'm looking forward to the Regionals this year. More so than the previous two times that I have gone to the Regionals here in Syracuse.

- Matt

[unccrombie]

Ill take whatever advantage we can get. :D
i'm not looking forward to another disaster

[RJ2kWJ]

i'm not looking forward to another disaster

What kind of disaster? :)

[unccrombie]

What kind of disaster? :)
i have no clue what you're talking about ;)

[seekupig]

college basketball joke of the day........

Three ACC fans are walking to down the street on their way to the ACC tournament when they see a pair of feet sticking out from under a bush. They stopped and discovered a naked woman passed out drunk. Out of respect, The Wake Forest fan took off his hat and placed it over her right breast. The Duke fan followed suit and placed his hat over her left breast. The Carolina fan then placed his hat over her crotch. When the cop arrived, he bagan inspecting the scene. He lifted the Wake hat, replaced it, jotted some notes. He then lifted the Duke hat, replaced it and jotted some more notes. Next, he lifted the UNC hat, replaced it, lifted it again, replaced it, lifted it one more time then replaced it. The UNC fan, now getting perturbed shouted "what the hell is wrong with you, are you some kind of pervert?" "No" replied the officer, "usually when i look under a Carolina hat i see an asshole."

[clayj41]

college basketball joke of the day........

Three ACC fans are walking to down the street on their way to the ACC tournament when they see a pair of feet sticking out from under a bush. They stopped and discovered a naked woman passed out drunk. Out of respect, The Wake Forest fan took off his hat and placed it over her right breast. The Duke fan followed suit and placed his hat over her left breast. The Carolina fan then placed his hat over her crotch. When the cop arrived, he bagan inspecting the scene. He lifted the Wake hat, replaced it, jotted some notes. He then lifted the Duke hat, replaced it and jotted some more notes. Next, he lifted the UNC hat, replaced it, lifted it again, replaced it, lifted it one more time then replaced it. The UNC fan, now getting perturbed shouted "what the hell is wrong with you, are you some kind of pervert?" "No" replied the officer, "usually when i look under a Carolina hat i see an asshole."

Even though I'm a UNC fan, that's pretty funny. :lol

[UNC41]

college basketball joke of the day........

Three ACC fans are walking to down the street on their way to the ACC tournament when they see a pair of feet sticking out from under a bush. They stopped and discovered a naked woman passed out drunk. Out of respect, The Wake Forest fan took off his hat and placed it over her right breast. The Duke fan followed suit and placed his hat over her left breast. The Carolina fan then placed his hat over her crotch. When the cop arrived, he bagan inspecting the scene. He lifted the Wake hat, replaced it, jotted some notes. He then lifted the Duke hat, replaced it and jotted some more notes. Next, he lifted the UNC hat, replaced it, lifted it again, replaced it, lifted it one more time then replaced it. The UNC fan, now getting perturbed shouted "what the hell is wrong with you, are you some kind of pervert?" "No" replied the officer, "usually when i look under a Carolina hat i see an asshole."

:lol

Ba Dum Ching.

[UNC41]

looks as if brackets may be harder than ever to fill out this year. looking at potential 2nd rd. matchups for the 1/2 seeds, there are a lot of matchups that could spell upset for a lot of them. history tells us that at least one if not more of these teams won't make it past the first weekend, but who will it be this year? here are some possibilities based on ESPN's bracketology...........

CHICAGO
1. Illinois vs. 8. Nevada / 9. Maryland
2. Duke vs. 10. Florida
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ALBUQUERQUE
1. Kentucky vs. 8. DePaul / 9. Georgia Tech
2. Kansas vs. 7. Wisconsin / 10. Mississippi St.
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SYRACUSE
1. UNC vs. 8. UCLA / 9. Texas
2. B.C. vs. 7. Texas Tech / 10. Minnesota
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AUSTIN
1. Wake vs. 8. Stanford / 9. Notre Dame
2. Oklahoma St. vs. 7. LSU / 10. Georgetown
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judging from this i'd say that Syracuse and Austin seem like the easier roads, but a lot can change between now and then...........

I love the way that bracket looks for Carolina by the way. Albquerque looks like the toughest bracket hands down.

[seekupig]

I love the way that bracket looks for Carolina by the way. Albquerque looks like the toughest bracket hands down.

unfortunately i must agree.

[UNC41]

Kentucky, Kansas, Louisville, UConn, Nova, and GT (if, and only if they can finally put it all together) all have a descent chance of reaching St. Louis out of the bracket.

[seekupig]

i just realized i went over 1000 posts today. the sad part is i think my 1000th was a "poop and run" over in DMBc. oh well, carry on.

[UNC41]

Almost half of them coming in here. I like it.

[seekupig]

Almost half of them coming in here. I like it.

:lol i'd better find another thread to post in or i'm going to go AWOL after the tourney.

[UNC41]

:lol i'd better find another thread to post in or i'm going to go AWOL after the tourney.

Well there will be the who will/who won't declare for the draft discussion, who got hurt the most by people declaring early (UNC :lorraine ), and then on to the preseason discussion where Duke, Kansas, Illinois, UNC, Syracuse, and fans from other schools will be debating why we have the team that is going to cut down the nets in 2006.

[seekupig]

who got hurt the most by people declaring early (UNC :lorraine )

What is the difference between a UNC fan and a three-week-old puppy? Eventually the puppy will stop whining. ;)

[UNC41]

What is the difference between a UNC fan and a three-week-old puppy? Eventually the puppy will stop whining. ;)

I think I made a bad smiley choice. It was supposed to show my hope in players staying, not whining. This better :confused ? :lol

[seekupig]

I think I made a bad smiley choice. It was supposed to show my hope in players staying, not whining. This better :confused ? :lol

sure, here's a more appropriate joke..........

This year they are changing the floor of the Dean Dome from wood to cardboard. Why you ask? Well, The Tarheels always look better on paper!!! :lol

[ousooner]

sure, here's a more appropriate joke..........

This year they are changing the floor of the Dean Dome from wood to cardboard. Why you ask? Well, The Tarheels always look better on paper!!! :lol

:lol Nice!

[UNC41]

sure, here's a more appropriate joke..........

This year they are changing the floor of the Dean Dome from wood to cardboard. Why you ask? Well, The Tarheels always look better on paper!!! :lol

:lol

There should be a disclaimer going along with that joke that says unless Gutheridge is coaching.

[seekupig]

:lol

There should be a disclaimer going along with that joke that says unless Gutheridge is coaching.

he made it to two final fours didn't he? granted he did it with Dean's players and left nothing for Matt.......

[UNC41]

he made it to two final fours didn't he? granted he did it with Dean's players and left nothing for Matt.......

The first one yeah, but the second final four with Forte carrying them there were mostly his players I think. I'm pretty sure he recruited Capel and Lang. Haywood the lone Dean layover and I always thought he was overrated.

[seekupig]

big game on ESPN2 at 9:00pm tonite. :lol

K-State @ Kansas
senior nite for the Jayhawks, should be a close one......

[ousooner]

big game on ESPN2 at 9:00pm tonite. :lol

K-State @ Kansas
senior nite for the Jayhawks, should be a close one......

Even though it's a lost cause, I have to pull for the Mildcats. What is the streak at now?

[seekupig]

Even though it's a lost cause, I have to pull for the Mildcats. What is the streak at now?

do you want that in decades, years or games?

last win for K-State, 01-17-94. current streak is at 29 games.

[Davenumber40]

he made it to two final fours didn't he? granted he did it with Dean's players and left nothing for Matt.......

Could you imagine being an 18 year old kid and Bill Gutheridge showing up at your house to tell you why you should come to UNC?

[Davenumber40]

do you want that in decades, years or games?

last win for K-State, 01-17-94. current streak is at 29 games.

11 years is nothing. I'm just hoping to see UK beat Tennessee in football before I die. The current streak is 20 years and I don't see it ending for another 20.

[seekupig]

Could you imagine being an 18 year old kid and Bill Gutheridge showing up at your house to tell you why you should come to UNC?

"oh don't worry, Roy will be here soon." that probably would have worked until he shot them down the first time.

[seekupig]

11 years is nothing. I'm just hoping to see UK beat Tennessee in football before I die. The current streak is 20 years and I don't see it ending for another 20.

it may be 11 years, but in basketball you have the opportunity to play a team in your conference as many as three times before the NCAA tournament. in football it's one shot, so 20 years isn't as bad as 11 in basketball. The thing in basketball is a bad team can beat a great team on a given night, that's usually not the case in football.

[mizzoudmbfan]

11 years is nothing. I'm just hoping to see UK beat Tennessee in football before I die. The current streak is 20 years and I don't see it ending for another 20.

20 years? lightweights! We ended our 24 years streak to the 'skers 2 seasons ago. Twas a fun evening.

Rob

carry on with the roundball talk.

[seekupig]

20 years? lightweights! We ended our 24 years streak to the 'skers 2 seasons ago. Twas a fun evening.

Rob

carry on with the roundball talk.

I hate Mizzou, but i have to admit.......they have great fans!
read the article, the first picture may make this seem as if i was being sarcastic, but i'm not.....

http://www.showmenews.com/2004/Mar/20040308Spor008.asp

[mizzoudmbfan]

I hate Mizzou, but i have to admit.......they have great fans!
read the article, the first picture may make this seem as if i was being sarcastic, but i'm not.....

http://www.showmenews.com/2004/Mar/20040308Spor008.asp

Yeah, the Mizzou faithful have always impressed me. Even in the darkest days we would still draw 50-60,000 fans even for the weakest non-con football foe. And thats one of the things I like about this rivalry, alot of people have said that the last few year have really hurt the rivalry, but I know that every single person watching the game at The Norm Stewart Court or at home know that we will win;) regardless if you guys are ranked #7 or #277 and if we are 6-8 or 14-0. *pulls our kleenex to wipe tear from eye*

That being said MIZ-FKU:D,
Rob

[paris72]

UK will kill TN tonight

[UNC41]

UK will kill TN tonight

Way to go out on a limb :D.

[ousooner]

20 years? lightweights! We ended our 24 years streak to the 'skers 2 seasons ago. Twas a fun evening.

Rob

carry on with the roundball talk.

Oklahoma St and Iowa St ended long losing streaks against Nebraska too. I think Oklahoma St was going on 40 or 41 years.

[ousooner]

UK will kill TN tonight

That's about as solid as OU's 43 point win over Baylor this past weekend :D

[Davenumber40]

:thumbsup
Yeah, the Mizzou faithful have always impressed me. Even in the darkest days we would still draw 50-60,000 fans even for the weakest non-con football foe. And thats one of the things I like about this rivalry, alot of people have said that the last few year have really hurt the rivalry, but I know that every single person watching the game at The Norm Stewart Court or at home know that we will win;) regardless if you guys are ranked #7 or #277 and if we are 6-8 or 14-0. *pulls our kleenex to wipe tear from eye*

That being said MI