Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

[jermtheworm]

I was referring to the random people that would pop in for one post after their team would play and never come back.



i know, i just felt bad for being spotty lately

[jermtheworm]

Yep. We only got a couple more days. :(


i've not been around for the offseason, what happens then? do we keep the thread going, or do we start another, i don't know???????? :confused

[bustdstuff]

it's almost time for basketball to end :(

This is that strange time of year that is my most and least favorite time of the year. It's exciting to finally crown a champion, but then it's all over. I guess we'll sit around and wait for Midnight Madness. Of which I will REALLY be looking foward to next seaon. Between JJ being a senior and the recruiting class Duke should make a spectacular showing (I pray that the NBA will leave the recruiting class alone).

Good luck to all left. This should be a fantastic two days of basketball. Although it's going to be hard to live up to last weekends games.

[UNC41]

This is that strange time of year that is my most and least favorite time of the year. It's exciting to finally crown a champion, but then it's all over. I guess we'll sit around and wait for Midnight Madness. Of which I will REALLY be looking foward to next seaon. Between JJ being a senior and the recruiting class Duke should make a spectacular showing (I pray that the NBA will leave the recruiting class alone).

Good luck to all left. This should be a fantastic two days of basketball. Although it's going to be hard to live up to last weekends games.

This offseason could be absolute hell for Carolina fans. May has said he is staying, but we'll lose Jawad, Scott, and Manuel for sure and possibly Felton, McCants, and Marvin.

You Duke fans should be feeling real good about Josh McRoberts. He looked like an absolute stud last night.

[gbs3769]

You Duke fans should be feeling real good about Josh McRoberts. He looked like an absolute stud last night.

And don't forget about Paulus. He's just sick. That is going to be a good combination as was evident in the game last night.

- Matt

[bustdstuff]

And don't forget about Paulus. He's just sick. That is going to be a good combination as was evident in the game last night.

- Matt

:lorraine :lorraine

But I don't wanna wait!!!! I want my new team now!!!! :lorraine


Alright I'm done crying for a few hours.

[bdb23]

This offseason could be absolute hell for Carolina fans. May has said he is staying, but we'll lose Jawad, Scott, and Manuel for sure and possibly Felton, McCants, and Marvin.

You Duke fans should be feeling real good about Josh McRoberts. He looked like an absolute stud last night.
Quit your whining. 2 of our starters are seniors (Head & Powell), Williams and Brown are likely to jump as juniors. If that happens, then Augustine will probably go with them. Our 6th man (Ingrahm) is also a senior. We're in serious trouble if Williams and Brown go (which is very likely).

[UNC41]

And don't forget about Paulus. He's just sick. That is going to be a good combination as was evident in the game last night.

- Matt

You're right. Paulus will be very good and its pretty much the prototypical Duke player, reminds me a lot of Bobby Hurley. As good as he could/will be McRoberts is the gem of Duke's recruiting class.

[bustdstuff]

Quit your whining. 2 of our starters are seniors (Head & Powell), Williams and Brown are likely to jump as juniors. If that happens, then Augustine will probably go with them. Our 6th man (Ingrahm) is also a senior. We're in serious trouble if Williams and Brown go (which is very likely).


But you should have a trophy to show for them. I'm sure a new shiny piece of hardware should help console you for a while.

[UNC41]

Quit your whining. 2 of our starters are seniors (Head & Powell), Williams and Brown are likely to jump as juniors. If that happens, then Augustine will probably go with them. Our 6th man (Ingrahm) is also a senior. We're in serious trouble if Williams and Brown go (which is very likely).

Whining? No. Just stating that the time between the end of this season and beginning of next may not be a good time to be a Carolina fan.

[UNC41]

It's too bad you won't have a trophy to show for them. I'm sure a new shiny piece of hardware would have helped console you for a while.

:D

:lol

[bdb23]

But you should have a trophy to show for them. I'm sure a new shiny piece of hardware should help console you for a while.
I hope. If we don't it's going to be much worse than any UNC fans are complaining about. :D

[dancergirl40ky]

Louisville :thumbsup


Yay!!!

[bdb23]

Yay!!!
Quoting yourself, Stace??? C'mon. You're going down on Saturday. :D

[bustdstuff]

:D

:lol


Haha. If UNC doesn't win I would never bring myself to help console a tarheel fan. I will simply do what any UNC fan would do to me, point and laugh. It is the reaction that our rivalry deserves.

[gbs3769]

You're right. Paulus will be very good and its pretty much the prototypical Duke player, reminds me a lot of Bobby Hurley. As good as he could/will be McRoberts is the gem of Duke's recruiting class.

I agree. I just don't want anyone to forget about the kid from CBA Syracuse.

I'm still really upset that he didn't get recruited more heavily by Syracuse. He had the opportunity to be a two sport star here. We need another shooter and he can certainly do that. And with Bruce Williams and Lavar Lobdell playing with him in football like in high school we would have been great. No more terrible offense plagued by turnovers and unpreparedness.

- Matt

[unccrombie]

I agree. I just don't want anyone to forget about the kid from CBA Syracuse.

I'm still really upset that he didn't get recruited more heavily by Syracuse. He had the opportunity to be a two sport star here. We need another shooter and he can certainly do that. And with Bruce Williams and Lavar Lobdell playing with him in football like in high school we would have been great. No more terrible offense plagued by turnovers and unpreparedness.

- Matt
he wants a national championship though :( should have went to ND

[gbs3769]

he wants a national championship though :( should have went to ND

He could have won a basketball championship here in Syracuse. But I don't even think we were in his top 3.

- Matt

[watchtower41]

Anyone watch the McDonald's All American game last night?? Looks like a real great national class of incoming frosh. Especially jacked for KU's No 1 incoming class, that Mario Chalmers kid from Alaska is straight money from deep.

[UNC41]

Haha. If UNC doesn't win I would never bring myself to help console a tarheel fan. I will simply do what any UNC fan would do to me, point and laugh. It is the reaction that our rivalry deserves.

I expect nothing less.

[UNC41]

Anyone watch the McDonald's All American game last night?? Looks like a real great national class of incoming frosh. Especially jacked for KU's No 1 incoming class, that Mario Chalmers kid from Alaska is straight money from deep.

The class looked pretty good, but the talent level in last night's game didn't seem as high as last year. That's understandable though, because 8 (I think 8 at least) of last year's players were drafted in the first round and many are making a solid impact at the next level.

[trippingbilly12]

Damnit a good friend of mine is going to the Final Four, lucky bastard :BANG

[UNC41]

I hope. If we don't it's going to be much worse than any UNC fans are complaining about. :D

Win or lose there will be no complaining from this Carolina fan Saturday and Monday. I know at this point in the season the team that wins the national championship will have earned it because any team in the Final Four is capable of beating the other three. The team that cuts down the nets on Monday will have deserved it.

[seekupig]

Quit your whining. 2 of our starters are seniors (Head & Powell), Williams and Brown are likely to jump as juniors. If that happens, then Augustine will probably go with them. Our 6th man (Ingrahm) is also a senior. We're in serious trouble if Williams and Brown go (which is very likely).


so what you're saying is Illinois will be back to the program we've all grown used to seeing the last 15 years or so? ;)



sorry, gotta take my shots before you have a national title to throw in my face.......:D

[bdb23]

so what you're saying is Illinois will be back to the program we've all grown used to seeing the last 15 years or so? ;)



sorry, gotta take my shots before you have a national title to throw in my face.......:D
:lol

[seekupig]

one of my friends called and wants to know if i want to go down to Franklin Street in Chapel Hill on saturday night. i'm leaning towards going, but now can't decide what to wear. my t-shirt choices are......

Carowhina (front) - "I agree with Roy, I don't give a shit about Carolina" (back)

or

ABC (front) - Anyone But Carolina (back)

any help would be appreciated.:D

[Third Floor]

you can borrow mine
Duke Still Sucks (front)
but now carolina swallows (back)

[IL Mikey]

so what you're saying is Illinois will be back to the program we've all grown used to seeing the last 15 years or so? ;)



sorry, gotta take my shots before you have a national title to throw in my face.......:D

Actually, believe it or not, we're 2nd over the last six years to only that school in Durham in total D1 wins.

Augie stays, Dee 60/40 stays (only projected as 2nd rounder as he's undersized), Deron's a lottery pick so he's gone. We'll probably fall back into the 20-10 range for a year, unless we sign some ultra-blue chipper with our last 2005 scholly. There's some really bad teams at the bottom of the B10, though.

[seekupig]

Actually, believe it or not, we're 2nd over the last six years to only that school in Durham in total D1 wins.


and tied for dead last over the last 100+ years in national titles with 0.

[IL Mikey]

and tied for dead last over the last 100+ years in national titles with 0.

Depends if you count Helms titles or not... 1915, baby!!

[bdb23]

Mikey, just mention Bucknell and that will end the discussion. :D

[seekupig]

Mikey, just mention Bucknell and that will end the discussion. :D


don't start........:BANG

[bdb23]

don't start........:BANG
I know. ;)

[UNC41]

Mikey, just mention Bucknell and that will end the discussion. :D

Its about the same thing as saying Santa Clara to UNC fans during the regular season. We had no viable comeback (Felton being out shouldn't have mattered).

[rcarlsn612]

Its about the same thing as saying Santa Clara to UNC fans during the regular season. We had no viable comeback (Felton being out shouldn't have mattered).
heard shit all season for that :violent , its finally stopped this week.
felton being out is a good excuse, if he gets in foul trouble i will be very VERY concerned
Go Heels!

[swenny020]

Anyone watch the McDonald's All American game last night?? Looks like a real great national class of incoming frosh. Especially jacked for KU's No 1 incoming class, that Mario Chalmers kid from Alaska is straight money from deep.
:hump:hump:hump:hump:hump

[IL Mikey]

Mikey, just mention Bucknell and that will end the discussion. :D

I'm trying to be nice since these folks like DMB. The fools that showed up at Illiniboard and talked smack, on the other hand, got what they deserved. We've been hearing it all year and have sent them all but one packing (and we even pounded them once). Hope it continues.

Tiger fans are buying up those Bucknell shirts like crazy, I hear. Well, when you have nothing else to look forward to but Quinny's firing... :D

[swenny020]

Carowhina (front) - "I agree with Roy, I don't give a shit about Carolina" (back)

I have the same shirt! Got it right when they started making them (before he announced he was leaving for UNC). I'm still very very bitter. :violent In his recent press conferences, Roy is saying the same exact lines as he would use while he was at KU...except he's replacing KU with North Carolina.

[UNC41]

Hot diggity damn I wish it was Saturday right now.

[meatball41]

Anybody hear this morning on the radio that Luther Head and Dee Brown are suffering from food poisoning? I'm praying it's an April Fools joke but I haven't found any confirmation either way yet.

[seekupig]

Anybody hear this morning on the radio that Luther Head and Dee Brown are suffering from food poisoning? I'm praying it's an April Fools joke but I haven't found any confirmation either way yet.

i haven't heard that. i looked on espn.com and it wasn't there either. probably an april fool's joke, i looked on a couple of betting websites and the line hasn't moved and the betting is still open. if there was any doubt that two players weren't going to be at full strength they normally take the game off the line and freeze betting until their status becomes certain.

[meatball41]

i haven't heard that. i looked on espn.com and it wasn't there either. probably an april fool's joke, i looked on a couple of betting websites and the line hasn't moved and the betting is still open. if there was any doubt that two players weren't going to be at full strength they normally take the game off the line and freeze betting until their status becomes certain.

Yeah, I just found out a little bit ago it was an April Fool's joke by Mike North on WSCR. Fuckin asshole! But thanks for the heads up. :thumbsup

[bdb23]

Yeah, I just found out a little bit ago it was an April Fool's joke by Mike North on WSCR. Fuckin asshole! But thanks for the heads up. :thumbsup
North is a tool.

[unccrombie]

peter north HAS a tool

[UNC41]

peter north HAS a tool

:lol

[bdb23]

peter north HAS a tool
:lol :lol

[meatball41]

North is a tool.

Exactly. As soon as I heard that he was the source of the rumor I was irritated. If memory servers me correct I think he tried to pull some annoying April fools Joke last year about Griffey Jr. Fuckin clown. :rolleyes

[UNC41]

Exactly. As soon as I heard that he was the source of the rumor I was irritated. If memory servers me correct I think he tried to pull some annoying April fools Joke last year about Griffey Jr. Fuckin clown. :rolleyes

Did he say that Griffey was healthy?

[meatball41]

Did he say that Griffey was healthy?

:lol :lol :lol Now that's funny!

[watchtower41]

Did he say that Griffey was healthy?



I rememeber that from last year......


He reeported that the White Sox traded Paul Konerko for Ken Griffey Jr. :BANG I was so pissed to hear that trade, did a whole bunch of research on it only to find out I was played... he fooled nobody this time around

[seekupig]

McDonald's All-American teams.........

EAST TEAM

Korvotney Barber (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=28785) PF 6-9 230 Manchester High School (Manchester, GA) Auburn

Eric Boateng (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=22038) C 6-10 240 St. Andrew's School, DE (London, England) Duke

Andrew Bynum (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=17752) C 7-0 300 St. Joseph High School (Plainsboro, NJ) Connecticut

Brandon Costner (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=23162) PF 6-9 230 Seton Hall Prep School (Montclair, NJ) NC State

Eric Devendorf (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=22347) PG 6-4 175 Oak Hill Academy, VA (Bay City, MI) Syracuse

Danny Green (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=21525) SG 6-6 205 St. Mary's High School (North Babylon, NY) UNC

Gerald Green (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=21466) SF 6-8 200 Gulf Shores Academy (Houston, TX) Oklahoma St.

Richard Hendrix (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=12316) PF 6-9 255 Athens High School (Athens, AL) Alabama

Josh McRoberts (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=14162) PF 6-10 235 Carmel High School (Carmel, IN) Duke

Tasmin Mitchell (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=12912) SF 6-8 235 Denham Springs High School (Den. Springs, LA) LSU

Greg Paulus (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=12332) PG 6-2 185 Christian Brothers Academy (Manlius, NY) Duke

Louis Williams (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=18539) SG 6-3 185 South Gwinnett High School (Snellville, GA) Georgia



WEST TEAM

Jon Brockman (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=22049) PF 6-8 245 Snohomish High School (Snohomish, WA) Washington

Mario Chalmers (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=20034) PG 6-2 180 Bartlett High School (Anchorage, AK) Kansas

Micah Downs (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=23622) SF 6-8 192 Juanita High School (Bothell, WA) Kansas

Byron Eaton (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=14140) PG 5-11 200 Lincoln High School (Dallas, TX) Oklahoma St.

Monta Ellis (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=12306) SG 6-4 189 Lanier High School (Jackson, MS) Miss. St.

Bobby Frasor (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=22354) SG 6-3 190 Brother Rice High School (Blue Island, IL) North Carolina

Tyler Hansbrough (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=20026) PF 6-9 250 Poplar Bluff High School (Poplar Bluff, MO) UNC

Amir Johnson (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=19387) C 6-9 215 Westchester High School (Los Angeles, CA) Louisville

Calvin Miles (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=25286) SF 6-6 207 Skyline High School (Dallas, TX) Texas

Martell Webster (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=21634) G 6-7 235 Seattle Preparatory School (Edmond, WA) Washington

Julian Wright (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=21741) SF 6-9 215 Homewood-Flossmoor High School(Chi. Hgts, IL) Kansas

Luke Zeller (http://ssbasketball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=10426) PF 6-11 245 Washington High School (Washington, IN) Notre Dame

[clayj41]

I'm really expecting great things from Frasor and Hansbrough.

[seekupig]

I'm really expecting great things from Frasor and Hansbrough.

tarheels got a nice class. though it seems that Roy is gambling that Ray-Ray is coming back next year. he may not be the best player on that team, but he is definately the most important. the santa clara game and the last three minutes against 'Nova after he fouled out proved that. if he's back, UNC will have another 2-4 loss season. without him, probably closer to 8-10.

[DMBfan41]

an Englishman is going to the dukies, sweeeeeeeeeeeeet

[seekupig]

this years Maui Invitational is being billed as the best ever. it's hard to tell in college basketball who's going to be good from year to year, but it does look loaded for next season.......

The 2005 EA SPORTS MAUI INVITATIONAL, hosted by Chaminade University, will be held at the Lahaina Civic Center on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, November 21-23, 2005.

Chaminade (host)
Arizona
Maryland
Gonzaga
Michigan St.
Kansas
UConn
Arkansas

[clayj41]

tarheels got a nice class. though it seems that Roy is gambling that Ray-Ray is coming back next year. he may not be the best player on that team, but he is definately the most important. the santa clara game and the last three minutes against 'Nova after he fouled out proved that. if he's back, UNC will have another 2-4 loss season. without him, probably closer to 8-10.

I think he'll stay. I could definitely see May, McCants, and Marvin all leaving after this year though. Oh, next year's Maui Invitational does look sick!

[UNC41]

tarheels got a nice class. though it seems that Roy is gambling that Ray-Ray is coming back next year. he may not be the best player on that team, but he is definately the most important. the santa clara game and the last three minutes against 'Nova after he fouled out proved that. if he's back, UNC will have another 2-4 loss season. without him, probably closer to 8-10.

Whether or not Quentin Thomas will be able to hand UNC when Felton is gone, either next year or two years from now, is an enigma. He's been turnover prone at times this year, but hopefully he'll peform better next year with a year under his belt and learning from Felton. I've also heard that Frasor might make the move to point at some time in his career.

[UNC41]

I think he'll stay. I could definitely see May, McCants, and Marvin all leaving after this year though. Oh, next year's Maui Invitational does look sick!

May has said all along, including before the sweet 16 that he's coming back. Marvin and McCants could very well play their last collegiate game either Saturday or Monday.

[clayj41]

May has said all along, including before the sweet 16 that he's coming back. Marvin and McCants could very well play their last collegiate game either Saturday or Monday.

I do think that May will most likely stay. I'm just saying that I wouldn't blame him if he left.

[DMBfan41]

this years Maui Invitational is being billed as the best ever. it's hard to tell in college basketball who's going to be good from year to year, but it does look loaded for next season.......

The 2005 EA SPORTS MAUI INVITATIONAL, hosted by Chaminade University, will be held at the Lahaina Civic Center on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, November 21-23, 2005.

Chaminade (host)
Arizona
Maryland
Gonzaga
Michigan St.
Kansas
UConn
Arkansas

Chaminade will win for sure

[DMBfan41]

I do think that May will most likely stay. I'm just saying that I wouldn't blame him if he left.

if he leaves, #1 pick for sure.

But, he seems like a good kid, I think he'll stay

[seekupig]

I do think that May will most likely stay. I'm just saying that I wouldn't blame him if he left.

May is staying
Marvin is probably leaving
Felton is probably staying
McCants is a matter of how high he goes in the draft. this weekend will probably make or break that decision.

[clayj41]

if he leaves, #1 pick for sure.

But, he seems like a good kid, I think he'll stay

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

[seekupig]

if he leaves, #1 pick for sure.



#1 overall? no way. first round? yes.

[watchtower41]

if he leaves, #1 pick for sure.




not a chance

[UNC41]

if he leaves, #1 pick for sure.

But, he seems like a good kid, I think he'll stay

I think you are confusing May for Marvin, who had a good chance of going #1.

[seekupig]

I think you are confusing May for Marvin, who had a good chance of going #1.

:thumbsup
Bogut and Marvin will be #1/#2 depending on who gets the first pick. May would be lucky to be a lottery pick.

[UNC41]

:thumbsup
Bogut and Marvin will be #1/#2 depending on who gets the first pick. May would be lucky to be a lottery pick.

The only way I could see someone else #1 is if the Bobcats get the pick and draft Paul.

May knows what he's doing. If he puts together a season next year like he did the second half this year he'll be first-team All-American and possibly POY. I'd see him being looked at a lot like Elton Brand coming out of college then.

[seekupig]

The only way I could see someone else #1 is if the Bobcats get the pick and draft Paul.

Chris Paul = most overrated player in college basketball.

[UNC41]

Chris Paul = most overrated player in college basketball.

He is overrated, but will still be a top 5 selection should he decide to declare.

[bustdstuff]

So I just got online and can't stay long, but I didn't see an April Fool's prank anywhere on the site. Did I miss it?

[bdb23]

DMBc. Tapers arrested in Australia

[bustdstuff]

DMBc. Tapers arrested in Australia

Nice. :lol

[haildmb]

haven't been on the boards in a few days (okay... over a week), just wanted to pop on and say go Cards :D

[unccrombie]

haven't been on the boards in a few days (okay... over a week), just wanted to pop on and say go Cards :D
:thumbsup

[IL Mikey]

I'm really expecting great things from Frasor and Hansbrough.

Hansbrough absolutely... Frasor I'm not so sure, and I've seen a couple of his HS games. Good player, but not otherworldly impressive like a lot of guys that go to UNC. Was surprised they were that interested in him. Some local recruiting gurus agree.

Honestly, as much talent as UNC gets, I can't see him being much more than a useful reserve for you guys...

[HolyCow]

Woohoo, the Final Four draws near!

[Third Floor]

Chris Paul = most overrated player in college basketball.
Is it really that hard to speel JJ. i mean its the same letter twice. Chris Paul doesnt even have a J in it. my god you should learn how to type

[unccrombie]

i dont think jj is overrated, just worn out

[Davenumber40]

I'd definately say Paul. In the WV game he flew down the court several times and turned the ball over late in the game. There's no reason for that. The true best players step up.

[TwoStepFF]

Is it really that hard to speel JJ. i mean its the same letter twice. Chris Paul doesnt even have a J in it. my god you should learn how to type

he is the heaviest guarded player in the NCAA....which means defenses cant drop down and double a Ewing on a drive or a Williams down low....how can he be overrated?

[seekupig]

Is it really that hard to speel JJ. i mean its the same letter twice. Chris Paul doesnt even have a J in it. my god you should learn how to type

not nearly as hard as it must be to spell the word spell. my god you should learn how to type.

back to the issue at hand....... Chris Paul is overrated. he was pre-season player of the year in the ACC even though the player of the year from last season was coming back for his senior year. every once in awhile the media latches on to someone that they think is the future and build him up. sometimes they live up to the hype, sometimes they don't. Chris Paul didn't. he put up very average statistics all season long and found himself fouled out, suspended, or completely ineffective at the end of key games all season long. you go to Wake, he plays at Wake. i get it. he's still overrated.

[rcarlsn612]

Just a shout to the tar heel fans. Today is a HUGE day.
Please Raymond no foul trouble/injuries

Go Carolina!!!!!!!

[DMBfan41]

Michigan St. and Louisville!

[seekupig]

ABC.

Anyone But Carolina.

[bdb23]

Got the orange on. I-L-L... I-N-I!!!

[unccrombie]

Got the orange on. I-L-L... I-N-I!!!
last time u did that they lost. thanks for cursing again :)

[haildmb]

let's go cardinals *clap clap clapclapclap*

[seekupig]

last time u did that they lost. thanks for cursing again :)

:lol

good luck to everyone's teams tonite.


i saw Roy on tuesday in Durham and took this picture of his back -> :monkey

[UNC41]

Just a shout to the tar heel fans. Today is a HUGE day.
Please Raymond no foul trouble/injuries

Go Carolina!!!!!!!

Heck yes! Let's go Heels. Raymond needs to play a minimum of 30 minutes for a win tonight.

[seekupig]

Heck yes! Let's go Heels. Raymond needs to play a minimum of 30 minutes for a win tonight.

i don't think it's the minutes as much as when he's in that matters. if he plays thirty minutes and fouls out with 4 minutes to go, they're finished.

[UNC41]

ABC.

Anyone But Carolina.

Good thing the game is on CBS.

[seekupig]

Good thing the game is on CBS.

the channel won't ease your pain.

[UNC41]

i don't think it's the minutes as much as when he's in that matters. if he plays thirty minutes and fouls out with 4 minutes to go, they're finished.

That's a given, unless they step it up and put the game out of reach by then but I'm not going to bank either of those happening. My point was that without him playing significant minutes it'll be tough for a win.

[rcarlsn612]

i'll have my #21 jawad jersey on!!!!!
can't wait, if louisville and unc win i win one pool, and if carolina wins it all(over louisville) i win the other 2

[UNC41]

the channel won't ease your pain.

Its nice to see someone on the board take the role as short-term Spartan fan.

[UNC41]

i'll have my #21 jawad jersey on!!!!!
can't wait, if louisville and unc win i win one pool, and if carolina wins it all(over louisville) i win the other 2

A Carolina championship is all I need to be happy, but I'm really hoping for a UNC/Illinois game on Monday. Two best teams playing for it all. Doesn't happen often, which is part of the beauty of March, but I'd love to see it.

[seekupig]

Its nice to see someone on the board take the role as short-term Spartan fan.

you know better than that. earlier this week i picked UNC and Louisville to win tonite. i've also been consistent with my dislike for UNC. i respect them and think they are a great team, but am pulling against them. is that wrong? i haven't said "Go Spartans" or anything close to that. i'm just pulling for whoever UNC is playing. if you were a UNC fan living in Lawrence, KS and the roles were reversed, you'd take the same stance.

[haildmb]

i'll say it: go spartans

[seekupig]

i'll say it: go spartans

:lol

glad i'm not the only one that can tell the difference between pulling against a team as opposed to pulling for the team they're playing. i'm not pulling FOR the Spartans to win, it just so happens they're playing the team i want to see lose more than any other team. luck of the draw. that doesn't make me a "short term fan" does it? if it does, then "GO SPARTANS!!!!"

[haildmb]

:lol

glad i'm not the only one that can tell the difference between pulling against a team as opposed to pulling for the team they're playing. i'm not pulling FOR the Spartans to win, it just so happens they're playing the team i want to see lose more than any other team. luck of the draw. that doesn't make me a "short term fan" does it? if it does, then "GO SPARTANS!!!!"


come Monday I'll hate the spartans as much as I did yesterday again :lol

[seekupig]

come Monday I'll hate the spartans as much as I did yesterday again :lol

Monday? i'll be back to hating them at 11:00 pm tonite. (unless they play Illinois on monday, then i'll stay on the bandwagon for a couple more days.):D

if UNC wins tonite, i'll be on Franklin Street on monday night. i've always wanted to destroy that campus and on monday, win or lose, i'll have thousands of drunk students helping me.:D :D

[rcarlsn612]

Monday? i'll be back to hating them at 11:00 pm tonite. (unless they play Illinois on monday, then i'll stay on the bandwagon for a couple more days.):D

if UNC wins tonite, i'll be on Franklin Street on monday night. i've always wanted to destroy that campus and on monday, win or lose, i'll have thousands of drunk students helping me.:D :D
i hope you get maced like i did in columbus after osu beat mich. 3 years ago, it was the craziest thing i've ever seen

[seekupig]

i hope you get maced

:confused

ok. go spartans.

[UNC41]

you know better than that. earlier this week i picked UNC and Louisville to win tonite. i've also been consistent with my dislike for UNC. i respect them and think they are a great team, but am pulling against them. is that wrong? i haven't said "Go Spartans" or anything close to that. i'm just pulling for whoever UNC is playing. if you were a UNC fan living in Lawrence, KS and the roles were reversed, you'd take the same stance.

I was being serious, not attempting to call you out on anything. By short-term I was just referring to you going for them because they are playing Carolina. No hard feelings. Sports discussions are much more fun when there is an opposing viewpoint. Were Carolina out of the tournament right now I'd be going for the underdogs also.

[votequimby]

Here comes Carolina, here comes Carolina

[trippingbilly12]

Garcia = Freaking awesome

[DMBfan41]

man, I had Louisville losing in the first round.

And now, I'm rooting for them to win the Championship

[HolyCow]

Louisville looks more prepared for this game

[bdb23]

I'll take it. Some cheap fouls on us, but with all those fouls on our big men we're still up.

[bdb23]

As long as the 3-ball doesn't dry up we'll be fine.

[HolyCow]

Louisville will make some very good adjustments at half. Every player on the floor for the Cards can take Illinois off the dribble...gonna be a great second half.

[bdb23]

Louisville will make some very good adjustments at half. Every player on the floor for the Cards can take Illinois off the dribble...gonna be a great second half.
And Illinois won't??? I think you'll see us drop the ball inside some more. We were doing that more towards the end of the half. Get them some fouls and open up the outside jumpers.

[HolyCow]

Oh Illinois making adjustments is a given...i think we may see a lot of zone in the second half

[bdb23]

Hey Bill Self, you could have been COY but instead you got bounced by Bucknell in the first round. :lol

(not trying to upset my Kansas friends)

[DMBfan41]

C'mon Louisville, win the game before my TV goes out.

Damn rain!

[bdb23]

C'mon Louisville, win the game before my TV goes out.

Damn rain!
Nope. We're looking good. Awesome half from Roger Powell, Jr.

[DMBfan41]

Hey Louisville, the time to start playing is.....

NOW!!!!

[bdb23]

Hey Louisville, the time to start playing is.....

NOW!!!!
or never. :D

[DMBfan41]

or never. :D

yeah, im thinking they are going for that

[bdb23]

Yeah baby.

[DMBfan41]

Powell cheated, he prayed to God!

[bdb23]

Where is everyone??? The #1 team in the country just put the beatdown on the Cardinals!!!!!

[bdb23]

Powell cheated, he prayed to God!
God is an Illini fan!!!!

[DMBfan41]

Where is everyone??? The #1 team in the country just put the beatdown on the Cardinals!!!!!


and yet....nobody cares.

j/k. Congrats man. The one good thing if Illinois wins the championship. I get to say FDU got beaten by the champions

[HolyCow]

congrats. Looking forward to this game. Should be a treat.

[bdb23]

and yet....nobody cares.

j/k. Congrats man. The one good thing if Illinois wins the championship. I get to say FDU got beaten by the champions
:lol You haven't rooted for the Illini yet.

[DMBfan41]

:lol You haven't rooted for the Illini yet.

Well, I am still upset about them beating my school, lol.

I hate UNC with my Dukie passion, I do not really like MSU. So, I'll be pulling for Illinois in the championship.

That does suck for you though. Only two teams I was rooting for won their games since the Sweet 16, and both were in that round

[bdb23]

Well, I am still upset about them beating my school, lol.

I hate UNC with my Dukie passion, I do not really like MSU. So, I'll be pulling for Illinois in the championship.

That does suck for you though. Only two teams I was rooting for won their games since the Sweet 16, and both were in that round
:lol :lol Say it with me..."go Spartans!!!"

[DMBfan41]

:lol :lol Say it with me..."go Spartans!!!"

Yeah, go Spartans for this game.

But, it's too late, sorry, I already said Illinois

[bdb23]

Yeah, go Spartans for this game.

But, it's too late, sorry, I already said Illinois
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[bdb23]

In case anyone cares...

http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3JXLJ1Z5XN5T81JZIXU98E0QM7

[bdb23]

MSU is looking pretty good here.

[onemoredrink41]

congrats IL on your first time to the nccaa final about time dont ya think 100 years

[bdb23]

congrats IL on your first time to the nccaa final about time dont ya think 100 years
Oh geez. Like I didn't think you'd find something to bitch about. Of course I think it's about time. Second most wins in the last 5 years for the Illinois program, though. Second only to Duke. Looks like your bracket is still alive since you jumped on my Illini's bandwagon.

[DMBfan41]

MSU is looking pretty good here.

they were looking good

[onemoredrink41]

Oh geez. Like I didn't think you'd find something to bitch about. Of course I think it's about time. Second most wins in the last 5 years for the Illinois program, though. Second only to Duke. Looks like your bracket is still alive since you jumped on my Illini's bandwagon.


i hardly jumped on their bandwagon because I chose them to win.
:lol

[DMBfan41]

such a great tournament, yet final four is boooring

[haildmb]

well, this will be the first time since 1997 that, of the two teams in the national championship game, one of them isn't Duke or had to beat Duke to get there.

[HolyCow]

first time in a very long time that the undisputable two best teams in the country will play each other for the Nat. Title

[unccrombie]

first time in a very long time that the undisputable two best teams in the country will play each other for the Nat. Title
:thumbsup rock on

[haildmb]

first time in a very long time that the undisputable two best teams in the country will play each other for the Nat. Title


Actually, just first time since 1999 :)

[unccrombie]

Actually, just first time since 1999 :)
6 years later ;)

[clayj41]

I just love how through all the craziness of March Madness, the two best teams still find a way to make it to the championship game. I've been wanting to see this matchup all year, and I can't wait for Monday night. Another Big Ten team down, one more to go. Oh and if Illinois wins, I'm totally blaming it on Arizona. :lol

[unccrombie]

I just love how through all the craziness of March Madness, the two best teams still find a way to make it to the championship game. I've been wanting to see this matchup all year, and I can't wait for Monday night. Another Big Ten team down, one more to go. Oh and if Illinois wins, I'm totally blaming it on Arizona. :lol
ill go as far back as blaming it on wake :lol

[seekupig]

congrats to Illinois and UNC. both teams deserve to be there and it should be a hell of a game. looks like the only way i'm going to end up happy is with some Al Qaeda intervention. :D


just kidding, good luck guys.

[watchtower08]

man i had louisville all the way! that sucks








lol jp congrats to illinois

[DMBfan41]

as long as its a good game.

Today's games were huge dissapointments

[trippingbilly12]

as long as its a good game.

Today's games were huge dissapointments

thats all i am hoping for. Don't really care who wins, I just want to see a close game. Basically my attitude for all major championships in sports

[seekupig]

interesting stat on sportscenter this morning.......

this is only the fourth time since seeding began that two #1 seeds will face each other in the title game.

of the previous three times, UNC has played in and won two of them.

[haildmb]

interesting stat on sportscenter this morning.......

this is only the fourth time since seeding began that two #1 seeds will face each other in the title game.

of the previous three times, UNC has played in and won two of them.


they don't make it to the championship game often, but they always win when they do (If I remember correctly, this is the first time since 93 they've gone to the championship, despite... what... 3-4 final fours?)

[seekupig]

they don't make it to the championship game often, but they always win when they do (If I remember correctly, this is the first time since 93 they've gone to the championship, despite... what... 3-4 final fours?)

Semifinal losses in last 15 years......

1991 - lost to Kansas
1997 - lost to Arizona
1998 - lost to Utah
2000 - lost to Florida

National Championship games.....

1993 - beat Michigan

looks like their best shot of losing has passed.....

[seekupig]

looks like i'll be watching the first half of the game during commercials of 24 tomorrow night. sucks that i have to choose, but my DVR isn't working right now.

[bdb23]

Actually, just first time since 1999 :)
Actually, it's the first time since 1975 (UCLA & UK) that the #1 and #2 teams have met in the championship

[bdb23]

looks like i'll be watching the first half of the game during commercials of 24 tomorrow night. sucks that i have to choose, but my DVR isn't working right now.
I must hook-up my VCR now.

[seekupig]

Actually, it's the first time since 1975 (UCLA & UK) that the #1 and #2 teams have met in the championship

i couldn't find the pre-tourney rankings for 1993, what were Michigan and UNC ranked that year? they were both #1 seeds, but not sure of their overall rankings....

[bdb23]

i couldn't find the pre-tourney rankings for 1993, what were Michigan and UNC ranked that year? they were both #1 seeds, but not sure of their overall rankings....
I got my info from ESPNEWS and Sportscenter.

[haildmb]

Actually, it's the first time since 1975 (UCLA & UK) that the #1 and #2 teams have met in the championship


While Uconn may not have been ranked #2 going into the 99 tournament, I think it's safe to say Duke and Uconn were the unanimous best 2 teams.

[seekupig]

While Uconn may not have been ranked #2 going into the 99 tournament, I think it's safe to say Duke and Uconn were the unanimous best 2 teams.

there have been a couple times where that's been the case, but from a ranking standpoint it hasn't happened.

[bdb23]

While Uconn may not have been ranked #2 going into the 99 tournament, I think it's safe to say Duke and Uconn were the unanimous best 2 teams.
After it was all said and done, maybe. But as far as the polls, this is the first time since 1975.

[bdb23]

there have been a couple times where that's been the case, but from a ranking standpoint it hasn't happened.
:D :D

[bdb23]

The line is between 2 and 2 1/2 (UNC) and the O/U is between 154 1/2 and 155 1/2

[unccrombie]

unc favored? bah, i hate that

[bdb23]

unc favored? bah, i hate that
Yep. Looks like I'll be making some calls.

[unccrombie]

Yep. Looks like I'll be making some calls.
its the right thing to do

[JUburton]

Why is this on at the same time as 24 :(

[DMBfan41]

Go Illinois.

We can not have UNC champs!

[unccrombie]

Why is this on at the same time as 24 :(
ratings, tape 24

[DMBfan41]

tape the first hour of the game, can't miss 24!

[Davenumber40]

I didn't watch the games last night because it hurt a little too much. Me and a buddy went up to Cincinnati and just chilled for the night to get away from it. But I'm thrilled this is the championship game. I hope it lives up to the expectations since this is the game everyone wanted. I'll be tuned in Monday night!

[unccrombie]

tape the first hour of the game, can't miss 24!
might as well not watch the game then. why tape the 1st and watch the 2nd. pointless

[DMBfan41]

might as well not watch the game then. why tape the 1st and watch the 2nd. pointless

you tape the 2nd while you're watching the first, then you watch the tape of the 2nd, duhh

[haildmb]

watching taped sports is soooooo stupid

[DMBfan41]

watching taped sports is soooooo stupid

not if you don't know the results

[UNC41]

you tape the 2nd while you're watching the first, then you watch the tape of the 2nd, duhh

Why not just tape 24? Much simpler.

[Third Floor]

should i root for illinois because i hate UNC
or should i root for UNC, knowing that if they win, everyone will leave and itll be good for wake next year
decisions decisions

[unccrombie]

not if you don't know the results
youd have to not watch the tv that day then :lol

[HolyCow]

First time in 25 years that #1 has played #2....exciting.

[clayj41]

tape the first hour of the game, can't miss 24!

It sucks, but I guess I'll just miss 24 tomorrow. Oh well, I can't miss UNC play for the National Championship. I have to say though that if UNC wasn't playing, I probably wouldn't even watch the game.

[bdb23]

It sucks, but I guess I'll just miss 24 tomorrow. Oh well, I can't miss UNC play for the National Championship. I have to say though that if UNC wasn't playing, I probably wouldn't even watch the game.
Yeah. If Illinois would have lost, I would have been glued to Fox tomorrow night.

[DMBfan41]

youd have to not watch the tv that day then :lol

you watch 24 until 10. Then start watching the basketball game. It's not that complicated

[clayj41]

you watch 24 until 10. Then start watching the basketball game. It's not that complicated

Yeah, that's what you do if you're not a UNC or Illinois fan.

[seekupig]

Yeah, that's what you do if you're not a UNC or Illinois fan.

that's what i did when i watched Kansas lose on Big Monday every week for the second half of the season......:BANG

[seekupig]

The line is between 2 and 2 1/2 (UNC) and the O/U is between 154 1/2 and 155 1/2

i'll take Illinois and the over.

UNC 80 Illinois 79

[haildmb]

you watch 24 until 10. Then start watching the basketball game. It's not that complicated


Does no one own a VCR or something? I mean Christ I know they're becoming a bit antiquated but come on.

Or just go download 24 on bittorrent. For one thing 24 isn't any good anyway, so at least we have some good TV monday night (the best sporting event there is)

[seekupig]

Does no one own a VCR or something? I mean Christ I know they're becoming a bit antiquated but come on.

Or just go download 24 on bittorrent. For one thing 24 isn't any good anyway, so at least we have some good TV monday night (the best sporting event there is)

i think the tournament as a whole is the best sporting event there is, but the championship game itself is a bit anticlimatic after three weeks of madness.









and yes i feel that way when kansas is playing in the Final Four.:p

[UNC41]

i think the tournament as a whole is the best sporting event there is, but the championship game itself is a bit anticlimatic after three weeks of madness.









and yes i feel that way when kansas is playing in the Final Four.:p

Generally I agree with you, but this year seems to be different to me and I think it is because UNC has returned to elite status and I haven't had the feeling of any sort of a tournament run in three years. I cannot wait for the game tomorrow, hopefully it is not a let down.

[ousooner]

i think the tournament as a whole is the best sporting event there is, but the championship game itself is a bit anticlimatic after three weeks of madness.









and yes i feel that way when kansas is playing in the Final Four.:p

:thumbsup I agree. I love the tournament and think it's the greatest sporting event in the world, but the first weekend is my favorite and it goes down from there.

[DMBfan41]

I don't really think that the championship game is the greatest sporting event, the tournament as a whole is great. But, the championship game is only good if its a good game. The tournament will always be great

[UNC41]

:thumbsup I agree. I love the tournament and think it's the greatest sporting event in the world, but the first weekend is my favorite and it goes down from there.

Usually, but this year was an exception. Last weekend was quite possibly the greatest weekend in the history of college basketball.

[seekupig]

Generally I agree with you, but this year seems to be different to me and I think it is because UNC has returned to elite status and I haven't had the feeling of any sort of a tournament run in three years. I cannot wait for the game tomorrow, hopefully it is not a let down.

i'll admit, i wouldn't mind seeing this little fucker get off Roy's back -> :monkey

[seekupig]

Usually, but this year was an exception. Last weekend was quite possibly the greatest weekend in the history of college basketball.

reguardless of overtime games, i'll take the first two rounds of the tourney any day. there's just something about watching basketball from noon 'til midnite for four days in a row that nothing else can compare to.

[ousooner]

reguardless of overtime games, i'll take the first two rounds of the tourney any day. there's just something about watching basketball from noon 'til midnite for four days in a row that nothing else can compare to.

That's what I love about it. As soon as the number of games and teams start to diminish so does the excitement.

[UNC41]

i'll admit, i wouldn't mind seeing this little fucker get off Roy's back -> :monkey

You and 3 or 4 Carolina regulars in this thread. I really love that quote that Dean Smith told Roy right after winning his first national championship in 1982. Something along the lines of "I'm not a better coach now than I was 2 1/2 hours ago."

Seekupig I don't know if you saw my post yesterday, but I wasn't attempting to call you out on anything for going for Michigan St.

[seekupig]

You and 3 or 4 Carolina regulars in this thread. I really love that quote that Dean Smith told Roy right after winning his first national championship in 1982. Something along the lines of "I'm not a better coach now than I was 2 1/2 hours ago."

Seekupig I don't know if you saw my post yesterday, but I wasn't attempting to call you out on anything for going for Michigan St.

i saw it. i knew what you meant, i was just clarifying my position. i know as well as anybody how sensitive one can get during the final four. if your team is one of the four left and is a favorite to win on top of that, it feels like the whole world is against you for no good reason. people hating your team is a sign of respect. as Barry Bonds says, "no one boo's you if you suck." good luck tomorrow night.

[UNC41]

i saw it. i knew what you meant, i was just clarifying my position. i know as well as anybody how sensitive one can get during the final four. if your team is one of the four left and is a favorite to win on top of that, it feels like the whole world is against you for no good reason. people hating your team is a sign of respect. as Barry Bonds says, "no one boo's you if you suck." good luck tomorrow night.

You should have seen my roomate last night. He cut a sleeve of one of his shirts, wrote MSU 4 Life and Go Spartans on it, and wore it as a headband for the game. The funny thing is he's a Jelly fan.

[bdb23]

You should have seen my roomate last night. He cut a sleeve of one of his shirts, wrote MSU 4 Life and Go Spartans on it, and wore it as a headband for the game. The funny thing is he's a Jelly fan.
That doesn't surprise me. :rolleyes :D

[gbs3769]

Congrats to Illinois and Carolina.

Now it's really tough for me to decide who I want to win.

- Matt

[unccrombie]

about 24 hours from now we should have our national champion :)

[goodneighbor]

tonights game is going to Illinois...its their year :monkey

[seekupig]

tonights game is going to Illinois...its their year :monkey

it's not their year until they win the game. there have been many times in the past where the team that seemed destined to win it all got beat in the tournament. you could just as easily make a case for it being UNC's year if you wanted to.

good luck to both teams tonite, should be a good one.

[Beeshie]

reguardless of overtime games, i'll take the first two rounds of the tourney any day. there's just something about watching basketball from noon 'til midnite for four days in a row that nothing else can compare to.
AMEN TO THAT!!!! I dont know what Im going to do after tonights game.... watch NBA?? :freak haha
So pumped Illinois is going all the way tonight!!!!!!!

[bdb23]

I-L-L... (c'mon people)

[seekupig]

I-L-L... (c'mon people)

I - N - I !!!



i feel dirty now.;)
good luck.

[bdb23]

I - N - I !!!



i feel dirty now.;)
good luck.
:lol :lol :thumbsup

[ousooner]

I really don't care who wins tonight, but I wouldn't mind seeing Roy finally get his championship. Good luck to both teams! I hope it's a classic.

[bdb23]

Something has to give. Roy's first or Illinois' first. I'd rather continue to see the look on Roy's face, though.

[seekupig]

Something has to give. Roy's first or Illinois' first. I'd rather continue to see the look on Roy's face, though.

**sobbing like a bitch**
"I'd do anything for those kids in that locker room. my heart goes out to them. i'm not crying for me, i'm crying for them. i'll have another chance to win this, but those seniors back there are done. that's why i'm crying. if i could do anything at all to make this better, i would. what about all of these kids i recruited that are sitting in there having to answer questions about me leaving? is that fair to them? I don't give a shit about Carolina."

TWO WEEKS LATER -

"I'm leaving for Carolina."

[bdb23]

**sobbing like a bitch**
"I'd do anything for those kids in that locker room. my heart goes out to them. i'm not crying for me, i'm crying for them. i'll have another chance to win this, but those seniors back there are done. that's why i'm crying. if i could do anything at all to make this better, i would. what about all of these kids i recruited that are sitting in there having to answer questions about me leaving? is that fair to them? I don't give a shit about Carolina."

TWO WEEKS LATER -

"I'm leaving for Carolina."
:lol :lol :thumbsup

[ousooner]

**sobbing like a bitch**
"I'd do anything for those kids in that locker room. my heart goes out to them. i'm not crying for me, i'm crying for them. i'll have another chance to win this, but those seniors back there are done. that's why i'm crying. if i could do anything at all to make this better, i would. what about all of these kids i recruited that are sitting in there having to answer questions about me leaving? is that fair to them? I don't give a shit about Carolina."

TWO WEEKS LATER -

"I'm leaving for Carolina."

Dang, so bitter. I just don't understand the hard feelings KU fans have for Roy. At that time I'm sure he was being very honest and didn't give a shit about Carolina. Roy busted his ass for KU and loved KU. If Bob Stoops gave everything he had to OU for ten to fifteen years and then wanted to go back to his alma matter Iowa, then so be it.

[seekupig]

Dang, so bitter. I just don't understand the hard feelings KU fans have for Roy. At that time I'm sure he was being very honest and didn't give a shit about Carolina. Roy busted his ass for KU and loved KU. If Bob Stoops gave everything he had to OU for ten to fifteen years and then wanted to go back to his alma matter Iowa, then so be it.

not bitter, i just think it's funny. just as Illinois fans think it's funny that Bill Self said that he'd stay in Illinois for awhile then bolted when he was offered the KU job. How would you have felt if Bob Stoops had gave everything he had then gone to Florida? as i've said many times, i understand why Roy left but that doesn't mean i have to be happy about it. Dean Smith and Adolph Rupp both went to Kansas but never felt the need to "go back to their alma matter."

[UNC41]

Tonight's the night, the game is finally here. I felt like Dookie V last night laying in bed thinking about the game. It's going to be awesome with a capital A actually ran through my head.

[ousooner]

not bitter, i just think it's funny. just as Illinois fans think it's funny that Bill Self said that he'd stay in Illinois for awhile then bolted when he was offered the KU job. How would you have felt if Bob Stoops had gave everything he had then gone to Florida? as i've said many times, i understand why Roy left but that doesn't mean i have to be happy about it. Dean Smith and Adolph Rupp both went to Kansas but never felt the need to "go back to their alma matter."

That's why the only school I listed for Stoops was Iowa. Florida or any other school besides Iowa I would be pissed. Is it that KU fans fill slighted? Roy didn't leave KU because he thought UNC was a better job. That's what got me so pissed about Florida. Everyone kept saying Florida was a better job then Oklahoma. If Stoops left for any other job then Iowa, that would be the case, he would think it was a better job. If he left for Iowa, we know that's not the case. It would be for personal happiness. Roy didn't leave for a better job, he left for personal happiness. That's not so bad. Hope this makes sense.

[ousooner]

Tonight's the night, the game is finally here. I felt like Dookie V last night laying in bed thinking about the game. It's going to be awesome with a capital A actually ran through my head.

Can't wait. Two treats for me today. The Royals on tv right now(extremely rare) and the championship game tonight.

[seekupig]

I felt like Dookie V last night laying in bed thinking about the game. It's going to be awesome with a capital A actually ran through my head.

you should be slapped for that. ;)

[UNC41]

you should be slapped for that. ;)

I haven't had much, actually anything, to cheer for in college basketball over the past three years. Can I have a little leeway?

[ousooner]

I haven't had much, actually anything, to cheer for in college basketball over the past three years. Can I have a little leeway?

:lorraine Whaaaaa! You're a UNC fan, quit whining :D

[UNC41]

:lorraine Whaaaaa! You're a UNC fan, quit whining :D

That's not whining, rather reasoning for horrific Dukie V sayings going through my head at night. If I could have prevented it I would have. Trust me.

[seekupig]

That's why the only school I listed for Stoops was Iowa. Florida or any other school besides Iowa I would be pissed. Is it that KU fans fill slighted? Roy didn't leave KU because he thought UNC was a better job. That's what got me so pissed about Florida. Everyone kept saying Florida was a better job then Oklahoma. If Stoops left for any other job then Iowa, that would be the case, he would think it was a better job. If he left for Iowa, we know that's not the case. It would be for personal happiness. Roy didn't leave for a better job, he left for personal happiness. That's not so bad. Hope this makes sense.

it makes plenty of sense. i think it's tougher for me because i live in the area he left Kansas to come to. so it's in my face all the time. there are so many ties between the two schools and when you live in NC and are a fan of Kansas, you tend to hear the one sided story about it all. they are both great programs, and i understand the reason he came home. the problem is that most people that live here, don't.

anyone else realize that Jerod Haase who played for the 1997 Jayhawk team that had one loss entering the tournament (Jacque Vaughn, Rael Lafrentz, Scott Pollard, Paul Pierce) is an assistant coach for Roy Williams at UNC now?

[bdb23]

:lorraine Whaaaaa! You're a UNC fan, quit whining :D
:thumbsup

[watchtower41]

anyone else realize that Jerod Haase who played for the 1997 Jayhawk team that had one loss entering the tournament (Jacque Vaughn, Rael Lafrentz, Scott Pollard, Paul Pierce) is an assistant coach for Roy Williams at UNC now?


yep, hate him too now. Cant wait to see the :monkey in the post game press conference tonight. Poor Poor Roy. :goat

[seekupig]

:lorraine Whaaaaa! You're a UNC fan, quit whining :D

What's the difference between a UNC fan and a three week old puppy?

eventually the puppy will stop whining.



sorry if i've used that already, but it seemed appropriate.:D

[UNC41]

Simulation from ESPN.com


Average score: North Carolina 86, Illinois 82

Winning percentage over 100 simulations: North Carolina, 58 percent

Sample box score: North Carolina 85, Illinois 83

NORTH CAROLINA MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
FGM/FGA FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
Raymond Felton 32 4/9 2/5 2/4 5 8 0 3 4 1 12
Rashad McCants 31 6/14 2/6 4/5 1 2 1 3 2 4 18
Jawad Williams 30 5/10 1/3 3/4 5 3 1 1 2 2 14
Sean May 29 5/10 0/0 5/7 10 2 1 1 3 4 15
Marvin Williams 25 4/9 0/1 5/6 8 0 0 1 2 3 13
Jackie Manuel 20 2/4 0/0 1/2 2 1 0 1 2 1 5
David Noel 18 2/4 0/1 1/1 4 2 0 1 1 1 5
Melvin Scott 15 1/5 1/4 0/0 2 1 0 0 0 1 3
TOTALS 200 29/65 6/20 21/29 37 19 3 11 16 17 85
44.6% 30.0% 72.4%

ILLINOIS MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
FGM/FGA FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
Deron Williams 36 5/11 2/5 1/2 5 8 0 0 2 2 13
Luther Head 36 6/14 3/9 2/3 6 5 0 3 4 2 17
Dee Brown 33 6/10 3/6 1/2 1 3 0 1 2 3 16
Roger Powell Jr. 27 5/10 0/1 3/4 8 0 0 1 1 2 13
James Augustine 24 5/6 0/0 3/4 5 1 1 0 1 1 13
Rich McBride 17 1/3 1/3 0/0 1 1 0 1 1 1 3
Jack Ingram 14 1/3 0/0 1/1 3 1 1 0 0 1 3
Nick Smith 13 2/4 0/0 1/1 2 1 1 0 2 1 5
TOTALS 200 31/61 9/24 12/17 31 20 3 6 13 13 83
50.8% 37.5% 70.6%

[ousooner]

it makes plenty of sense. i think it's tougher for me because i live in the area he left Kansas to come to. so it's in my face all the time. there are so many ties between the two schools and when you live in NC and are a fan of Kansas, you tend to hear the one sided story about it all. they are both great programs, and i understand the reason he came home. the problem is that most people that live here, don't.

anyone else realize that Jerod Haase who played for the 1997 Jayhawk team that had one loss entering the tournament (Jacque Vaughn, Rael Lafrentz, Scott Pollard, Paul Pierce) is an assistant coach for Roy Williams at UNC now?

I had no idea Jerod Haase was a coach. I hadn't heard that name in years until I heard Roy mention it in a Sportscenter interview last night. What a great team that was in 97'. Almost as good as the 88' OU team :D

[seekupig]

yep, hate him too now. Cant wait to see the :monkey in the post game press conference tonight. Poor Poor Roy. :goat

hate to bring up bad memories, but i just stumbled upon this article........:lorraine :lorraine

it's titled: March 21, 1997 - March Sadness (figured it out yet?)

http://www.kuhistory.com/proto/story-printable.asp?id=56

[watchtower41]

hate to bring up bad memories, but i just stumbled upon this article........:lorraine :lorraine

it's titled: March 21, 1997 - March Sadness (figured it out yet?)

http://www.kuhistory.com/proto/story-printable.asp?id=56


What a tough read... :BANG Worst part is, that KU team was 10x better than this UNC team on their best night. I bet Bonnie Bernstein cant wait for the post game interview tonight. "I don't give a shit about the Buffalo Bills."


Foreshadowing :monkey

[UNC41]

What a tough read... :BANG Worst part is, that KU team was 10x better than this UNC team on their best night. I bet Bonnie Bernstein cant wait for the post game interview tonight. "I don't give a shit about the Buffalo Bills."


Foreshadowing :monkey

This year's Tar Heels may not be the better than that Jayhawk team, but they do get to play a game in April unlike Kansas that year. I'll take the trade off.

[UNC41]

A champion will be crowned tonight, this thread needs to remain on the front page. Predictions anyone?

UNC - 82
Illiniois - 79

[bdb23]

Illinois - 75
UNC - 70

Jitters during the opening minutes keeps the score down.

[UNC41]

Illinois - 75
UNC - 70

Jitters during the opening minutes keeps the score down.

Well we've got the prediction of UNC fan and an Illinois fan and that's it. No completely objective predictions yet.

[bdb23]

Well we've got the prediction of UNC fan and an Illinois fan and that's it. No completely objective predictions yet.
:lol

[haildmb]

good Lord I don't want either to win

normally I'd pull for ACC, but it's carolina

normally I'd pull against the big 10, but again it's carolina...

[watchtower41]

Well we've got the prediction of UNC fan and an Illinois fan and that's it. No completely objective predictions yet.



I like Baylor over Mich St for the women's. 68-62 :p




Seriously though, tonight's going into OT. It just will... fitting end for ths tourney, fitting end for this game...... Illinois' chemistry and D pressure prevail, 73-72

[bdb23]

From espn.com...

Roy Williams might be the best coach to never have won a title. Illinois might be the best program to never have won it all. One will never say never again after tonight.

[clayj41]

From espn.com...

Roy Williams might be the best coach to never have won a title. Illinois might be the best program to never have won it all. One will never say never again after tonight.

:thumbsup I can't wait!

[bdb23]

:thumbsup I can't wait!
And to think we still have over 3 1/2 hours.

[UNC41]

From espn.com...

Roy Williams might be the best coach to never have won a title. Illinois might be the best program to never have won it all. One will never say never again after tonight.

:thumbsup

T-minus 3:40 until tipoff.

[clayj41]

You know what's shitty though. I'll most likely have to miss the first couple minutes of the game because I have class until 8:30. :thumbsdow

[UNC41]

You know what's shitty though. I'll most likely have to miss the first couple minutes of the game because I have class until 8:30. :thumbsdow

That sucks. Anyway you could duck out early?

[rcarlsn612]

lets go heels!!!!!!!!!

[clayj41]

That sucks. Anyway you could duck out early?

No the teacher is really shitty. Each week he gives us a take home quiz at the very end of class that you have to turn in the next week. Oh well, I won't miss much, and I'll be taping the game anyways.

[rcarlsn612]

No the teacher is really shitty. Each week he gives us a take home quiz at the very end of class that you have to turn in the next week. Oh well, I won't miss much, and I'll be taping the game anyways.
game doesn't tip till around 9:20est, so more like 9:30

[bdb23]

game doesn't tip till around 9:20est, so more like 9:30
He's an hour behind.

Silly Hoosiers.

[clayj41]

Yeah, Indiana sucks!

[rcarlsn612]

Yeah, Indiana sucks!
we can do a state-to-state cheer from OH to IN


TAR!!!!!!!!!

[clayj41]

Heels!!!!!!!!!!

[rcarlsn612]

Tar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[clayj41]

Heels!!!!!!!!!!!!

[clayj41]

Well, I have to go to class here shortly. I doubt I get on Ants any more today, so here's hoping for a good game. Good luck to all UNC and Illinois fans.

[unccrombie]

well im going to start setting up for my party. wish i had a satellite cam for ya'll. 61" HD :)

GO HEELS BABY