Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

[DMBfan41]

Illinois!

[bdb23]

:thumbsup

[ousooner]

UNC - 83
Illinois - 79

That score familiar to anyone? :lorraine

[UNC41]

UNC - 83
Illinois - 79

:thumbsup

[UNC41]

Time to go plop myself in front of the TV and hopefully watch the Tar Heels be crowned national champions.

[reds24]

Not looking good at all for the Illini

[ExistenceNow]

don't care about either team, but i picked UNC to win it all in my bracket... so i guess i'm rooting for them just for the tiny bit of bragging rights it will allow me... very tiny amount.

[slk11086]

if UNC wins I win 100 bucks.... thats how close our brackets are this year.... looking good for me

[DMBfan41]

Not looking good at all for the Illini

down by 4

[ExistenceNow]

uh-oh... the "fighting" illini aren't putting up much of a fight right now.

[DMBfan41]

see now it's not looking good.

But, you know what, this tournament has been all about the comebacks.

Go Illini!

[ExistenceNow]

see now it's not looking good.

But, you know what, this tournament has been all about the comebacks.

Go Illini!

yea.. but i think illinois exercised their big comeback demon against arizona... UNC won't lay down (with lazy fucking passing) like arizona did at the end.

[ousooner]

uh-oh... the "fighting" illini aren't putting up much of a fight right now.

Illinois is not holding up there end of what's supposed to be a classic. They are starting to resemble OU in the Orange Bowl. I know, nobody could look that bad, but you get what I'm saying.

[ExistenceNow]

Illinois is not holding up there end of what's supposed to be a classic. They are starting to resemble OU in the Orange Bowl. I know, nobody could look that bad, but you get what I'm saying.

oh yea... i enjoyed that orange bowl immensely... but i know what you mean... i seriously had OU winning that game and i thought it would be a really good/close game...

[DMBfan41]

yea.. but i think illinois exercised their big comeback demon against arizona... UNC won't lay down (with lazy fucking passing) like arizona did at the end.

i dunno, it went from 15 to 2

[ousooner]

This is more like what it should be now.

[reds24]

Must be sweet to be at a game like this.

[ExistenceNow]

yea.. but i think illinois exercised their big comeback demon against arizona... UNC won't lay down (with lazy fucking passing) like arizona did at the end.

yea... whoever said this is a moron... though it does look like UNC is making another run... May is fucking unstopable.

[ousooner]

May is 10/11 from the field. I know he's damn good, but someone needs to play some defense.

[ExistenceNow]

May is 10/11 from the field. I know he's damn good, but someone needs to play some defense.

they tried doubling him, but he just kicked it out to a teammate beyond the arc...

[DMBfan41]

that is a great commercial!!

The Bud Light Robot

[Third Floor]

augustine got screwed.

[ousooner]

Got to feel sorry for Augustine. Works his ass off to get there and never really gets in the game.

[ryguy178]

This is one of the better championship games i've seen in a long time..

[DMBfan41]

ohh baby, down to 2

[Third Floor]

is ingram gonna foul out too?

[ExistenceNow]

looks like it's going to come down to the wire... turns out it's not going to be another orange bowl. lol

[SatelliteEyes]

Fuck UNC.

[DMBfan41]

Tie Game!

[ousooner]

looks like it's going to come down to the wire... turns out it's not going to be another orange bowl. lol

:thumbsup Thank goodness! This is everything it's supposed to be!

[SatelliteEyes]

Whoever is doing the color just let his bias slip.

"Those are illegal screens! Those are illegal screens!!"

[ousooner]

Wouldn't overtime be a fitting end to this tournament?

[DMBfan41]

why didn't he shoot the ball??

[ExistenceNow]

big steal... that could do it...

edit: if the fucker could hit the free's

[reds24]

Looks like Head choked in the last 2 mins.

[SatelliteEyes]

It's a shame. Any time a team like UNC or Duke wins it is just really too bad.

It's like going to a casino and rooting for the House in Blackjack.

[DMBfan41]

Red Sox win the world series, UNC wins the championship.

Too many of my teams rivals are winning!

Thank god the Eagles lost!

[ryguy178]

dammit...i hate UNC...

stupid ACC...they should just be annexed into the NBA

[bdb23]

Congrats UNC fans. The Illini played with major heart in the 2nd half.

Ala Forrest Gump... "that's all I have to say about that."

[mwjorgens]

stupid ACC...they should just be annexed into the NBA

becuase they showed this year more than ever that they arent all that dicky v says they are?

[DMBfan41]

Woo! One Shining Moment, that's the only reason I watch!

[bdb23]

I had the score right, just the wrong teams.

Whoops. I said I was done talking about it. Now I'm done.

[ousooner]

becuase they showed this year more than ever that they arent all that dicky v says they are?

Got to give it to Dukie V. He did pick UNC to win it this year after the championship game last year.

[bdb23]

Got to give it to Dukie V. He did pick UNC to win it this year after the championship game last year.
I don't give shit to Dick Vitale. He didn't go out on any limbs with his picks. It just so turned out he was right. That's like picking the Yankees to win the Series. Nothing too daring.

[SatelliteEyes]

I think I am going to be sick.

[SatelliteEyes]

I don't give shit to Dick Vitale. He didn't go out on any limbs with his picks. It just so turned out he was right. That's like picking the Yankees to win the Series. Nothing too daring.


:thumbsup :thumbsup

and Roy Williams is such a nice guy....puke....

[ousooner]

I don't give shit to Dick Vitale. He didn't go out on any limbs with his picks. It just so turned out he was right. That's like picking the Yankees to win the Series. Nothing too daring.

Let's see anyone on this board pick next years champion right now. I don't like him any more then anyone else, but it was a good pick. Plain and simple.

[ousooner]

:thumbsup :thumbsup

and Roy Williams is such a nice guy....puke....

Haters! Roy Williams is a nice guy. He deserves it!

[tk13]

hey, if illinois wouldve just stopped fouling sean may EVERY single time he drove into the lane...

[unccrombie]

speechless, simply speechless on my end :) :) :)

[DMBfan41]

Damn, that should be FDU up there!

[SatelliteEyes]

Let's see anyone on this board pick next years champion right now. I don't like him any more then anyone else, but it was a good pick. Plain and simple.


Hmm, Lemme go out on a real limb. How about Duke?

[ousooner]

Damn, that should be FDU up there!

:lol

[DMBfan41]

2006 Champs - DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE

[unccrombie]

did we just win? shit, this is happening, right?

[ousooner]

Hmm, Lemme go out on a real limb. How about Duke?

Since we can't read the future and have absolutely no clue who will win next years tournament, if Duke wins it, nice pick. That's all I was saying. Every year ESPN analysts pick a team for next year and Dickie V hit it. Nice pick!

[ExistenceNow]

did we just win? shit, this is happening, right?

nope... it's all a dream... Bucknell actually won it all!

[ousooner]

did we just win? shit, this is happening, right?

Since none of the haters on the board will step up and say it, Congratulations on a great season and the championship. Congrats to Illinois too. It was a great game!

[ExistenceNow]

Since we can't read the future and have absolutely no clue who will win next years tournament, if Duke wins it, nice pick. That's all I was saying. Every year ESPN analysts pick a team for next year and Dickie V hit it. Nice pick!

i agree with you Holy... if someone picked the Yankees the last 5 years, yea, it's not daring, but they were wrong... and MLB is a LOT different than the college basketball tourney... ANYTHING can happen in the tournament, i.e Bucknell over Kansas... you gotta give Dicky props...

[unccrombie]

nope... it's all a dream... Bucknell actually won it all!
you'll have me fooled for another 24 hours. then ill come and get ya :lol

[ExistenceNow]

Since none of the haters on the board will step up and say it, Congratulations on a great season and the championship. Congrats to Illinois too. It was a great game!

i second that congrats... wish it was Texas but hey... it was a well played tourney.

[ousooner]

Anyone think Illinois shot too many threes? I think they shot close to 40.

[gbs3769]

Roy Williams is still a cry baby.

But Congrats to UNC and all the UNC fans. The win brought my dad $232 so I can't complain too much.

And Jimmy B got in the hall. Not too bad of a night.

- Matt

[unccrombie]

Since none of the haters on the board will step up and say it, Congratulations on a great season and the championship. Congrats to Illinois too. It was a great game!
great game indeed. i think my heart stopped like twice when deron and luther had open looks

[SatelliteEyes]

Anyone think Illinois shot too many threes? I think they shot close to 40.


Yeah I did think they shot too many, but they don't have anybody on their team who is a slasher who can take it to the hole. Powell, maybe, but he just doesnt have the touch. Their big guys were non-existent as well.

[DMBfan41]

I guess I really am bad luck. From the Sweet 16 to the championship, Only 2 teams I wanted to win won their games. And that was in the sweet 16.

[trippingbilly12]

As a Kansas fan who was bitter as hell about Roy leaving, I can honestly say that I am incredibly happy to see Roy win one. I have gotten over the hump, and I couldn't be happier to see Roy get his title.

Congratulations Roy Williams and Fuck Bucknell :thumbsup

[DMBfan41]

One Shining Moment!

[Noles20]

Anyone think Illinois shot too many threes? I think they shot close to 40.

Live by the 3, die by the 3. It always happens.

[trippingbilly12]

Live by the 3, die by the 3. It always happens.

Amen to that

and Amen to Luther vandross

[Noles20]

I am happy that the Heels won. I am from the Philly burbs, but I always cheer for Carolina blue!!!!

[gbs3769]

I just remembered how I hate the entire state of Vermont.

- Matt

[trippingbilly12]

I just remembered how I hate the entire state of Vermont.

- Matt

add pennsylvania to that list


fuck bucknell

[DMBfan41]

Yeeah!! One FDU player! Big man Andrea!

[unccrombie]

you guys want to chip in and buy me a championship shirt? tickets maxed me out :lol

[Rdedeian]

What a great tournament it was this year, congrats to UNC.



One tourney I'll sure remember since I attended 8 of the games!

[gbs3769]

Time to bust out the 2003 Championship DVD.

- Matt

[Third Floor]

UNC fans, jumping into fires is a great way to celebrate.

[trippingbilly12]

Time to bust out the 2003 Championship DVD.

- Matt

please put that back, michael lee getting blocked at the end makes me sick

[unccrombie]

UNC fans, jumping into fires is a great way to celebrate.
as long as the team doesnt do it :lol

[Third Floor]

no serioulsy, the nees here is showing film of idiots jumping into each other over bonfires. and landing in the fire. fucking idiots.

[gbs3769]

please put that back, michael lee getting blocked at the end makes me sick

The biggest play of Hak's career. He really did come from nowhere...

- Matt

[trippingbilly12]

The biggest play of Hak's career. He really did come from nowhere...

- Matt

I hate thinking about that night. Why did you bring it up? that and 97' against Arizona, please Kansas....win a title before I die

[DMBfan41]

This was definately a fun season, with the exception of UNC winning the championship.

Mostly because it's my first year in college, here at FDU, and probably my most memorable moment was the NEC Championship game which they won on ESPN2 and I got to run on the court. And watching guys that I know giving the #1 team in the nation, Illinois a run for their money was great.

And of course no one expected Duke to do much this year. But, they wound up winning another ACC championship and making the sweet 16. Still dissapointing though, but we'll be back next year!

2006 - Watch out for FDU and Duke!!

[JimiThang1]

no serioulsy, the nees here is showing film of idiots jumping into each other over bonfires. and landing in the fire. fucking idiots.
Hahah yea I just saw that. Fuckin crazy ass people. I have a friend who is probably up there in that right now. I'll have a full report from him tomorrow i'm sure.

[unccrombie]

no serioulsy, the nees here is showing film of idiots jumping into each other over bonfires. and landing in the fire. fucking idiots.
i never said we had the smartest fans :(

[gbs3769]

I was saying that about Syracuse for a while.

We had the Final Four loss to Jelly in 75, the Finals loss to Keith Smart in 87, the Finals loss to Jelly again in 96, we thought it would never stop.

- Matt

[trippingbilly12]

I was saying that about Syracuse for a while.

We had the Final Four loss to Jelly in 75, the Finals loss to Keith Smart in 87, the Finals loss to Jelly again in 96, we thought it would never stop.

- Matt

Im glad you can feel my pain. Our ear will come

[gbs3769]

Yes it will. Just give yourself time.

- Matt

[rcarlsn612]

Couldn't be happier!!!!!

[ousooner]

Im glad you can feel my pain. Our ear will come

We've never won a championship in hoops. Still waiting.

[HolyCow]

Next year my friend, next year.

[UNC41]

TAR............................................HEE LS

Tonight was such an awesome night. I was pinched so I know it happened.

Even at halftime I knew it was going to turn into a hell of a game. Illinois was a great team and there is no way they were going to lay down when its all on the line.

May and Felton, May and Felton, May and Felton. I really hope they are both back next year, but if not ohh well because tonight they were the two players, May all game and Felton in the last 5 minutes, that restored Carolina to the state it had fallen from the past three years. Wow is this a great feeling.

To make it a better day for Felton he was named Bob Cousy Collegiate Point Guard Award Winner as the best point guard at any level of college basketball. EAT THAT CHRIS PAUL!

[slk11086]

yes, $100 dollars richer... thanks NC

[jaydog82283]

Originally posted by Third Day
UNC is overrated in the poll. i dont think duke deserves to be that high. wake deserves to be higher (no one saw that one coming) and miami, vatech and BC need to never join ACC basketball

From 2nd post of this thread.Thought this was funny.

[The Onion]

I just won $500! And the best part is, my whole bracket was one, big, random, drunken guess. I know nothing about college basketball! :hump

[Third Floor]

From 2nd post of this thread.Thought this was funny.
1) why did you change my name for that quote
2) you realize that this thread was started before the 2003-2004 season and not this season

[haildmb]

well, see you guys next November, hopefully it'll be a better year

[bdb23]

well, see you guys next November, hopefully it'll be a better year
:thumbsup Bookmark the thread b/c we need to pull this one back up next season.

[votequimby]

Take THAT Dukies !!

Got Roy ?

Got # 4 ?

WOO HOO !! GO HEELS !! :bounce

[Snipper007]

NORTH CAROLINA............Raise UP!!

[Davenumber40]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but yesterday ESPN was reporting May and Azabuikie are declaring for the draft but haven't hired agents.

[clayj41]

:multi :multi :multi

It's been a long time since any of my teams have won championships in their sports. It makes it that much better that it's UNC who did. I was so excited last night! I'm just glad that it turned out to be a pretty good game. Congrats to all Illini fans. You had a great season. Man, it's great to have UNC back on top again. It's even better to get that monkey off of Roy's back.

[warriors1226]

I hate UNC now. This article kicks major ass:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7386252/

[rcarlsn612]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but yesterday ESPN was reporting May and Azabuikie are declaring for the draft but haven't hired agents.
well then espn doesn't know shit
May said after the game he's coming back
i see mccants(big deal) and marvin leaving, thats it. To be honest i'd rather see marvin stay before rashad, he just makes stupid choices sometimes

[unccrombie]

I hate UNC now. This article kicks major ass:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7386252/
i can almost predict that mccants is leaving. i do however think roy can convince marvin and felton to stay with may. im hoping they all stay, but reality says at least one leaves

[gbs3769]

May said after the game he's coming back

And Carmelo said he was coming back as well.

If he is expected to be Top 5 in the draft, I don't see any reason why May would stay.

- Matt

[RJ2kWJ]

And Carmelo said he was coming back as well.

If he is expected to be Top 5 in the draft, I don't see any reason why May would stay.

- Matt

It'd be retarded to stay... can always use that "injury" arguement. And its legit. If the man gets injured... lots of $$$ goneeee.

[HolyCow]

Boomer Sooner next year. Indianapolis, here we come

[seekupig]

Boomer Sooner next year. Indianapolis, here we come

:lol

[ousooner]

:lol

It might not actually be as funny as you think. How many of you will we see in the upcoming football thread? :D

[HolyCow]

Me Me!

[gbs3769]

I'll be there for both my teams.

- Matt

[HolyCow]

both?

[gbs3769]

Syracuse and Nebraska.

Grew in Nebraska and experienced the glories of the 90's under Osborne. Went to Syracuse and experienced the utter horror of our program under Pasqualoni.

- Matt

[HolyCow]

Ahh, my best friend is hardcore Husker. Makes for some good arguments.

[gbs3769]

Ahh, my best friend is hardcore Husker. Makes for some good arguments.

Not lately.

- Matt

[HolyCow]

Lately it has made for some good razzing

[ousooner]

Not lately.

- Matt

What goes around comes around. Fortunately for you we haven't been so nasty about it yet.

1996: NU 73 - OU 21
1997: NU 69 - OU 7

[HolyCow]

my friend still claims Osborne didn't run up the score in those.

[clayj41]

i can almost predict that mccants is leaving. i do however think roy can convince marvin and felton to stay with may. im hoping they all stay, but reality says at least one leaves

At the end of Sportscenter, they reported that McCants is definitely leaving.

[HolyCow]

I am a little concerned that OU may have some sanctions for some recruiting violations

[UNC41]

Rashad is gone and none of the others are a sure bet to come back.

http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/366809.html

[clayj41]

Yeah, that's the only downside to winning the national championship. You lose a lot of players. I think Felton and May will stay, but I wouldn't blame them if they left.

[UNC41]

Yeah, that's the only downside to winning the national championship. You lose a lot of players. I think Felton and May will stay, but I wouldn't blame them if they left.

I hope two out of Felton, May, and Marvin stay, but if not ohh well. I'll take last night's win over everyone staying in school any day.

[ousooner]

Here's the very early rankings for next season by Katz and Vitale

Katz - http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2030071

Vitale - http://espn.go.com/dickvitale/vcolumn050405-early05-06DazzlingDozen.html

[HolyCow]

I saw those too. I can live with it. Nova seems like a stretch to me, but we'll see

[ousooner]

I saw those too. I can live with it. Nova seems like a stretch to me, but we'll see

Can't complain with Top 10

[seekupig]

Here's the very early rankings for next season by Katz and Vitale

Katz - http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2030071

Vitale - http://espn.go.com/dickvitale/vcolumn050405-early05-06DazzlingDozen.html

wow. when's the last time Kansas didn't start the season ranked in the top #25?

[ousooner]

wow. when's the last time Kansas didn't start the season ranked in the top #25?

I find it hard to believe that the talent level can drop off that fast at Kansas. You know they have players.

[seekupig]

I find it hard to believe that the talent level can drop off that fast at Kansas. You know they have players.

it happens from time to time. they lose seniors and the pollsters act as if the sky is falling. when they lost Drew Gooden in 2002 after losing to Maryland in the national semifinals people thought they had lost their best chance to win. the following year they made it to the championship game. they had good freshmen this year (Kaun, Giles, Robinson) are returning Moody and Giddens (who should be over his sophomore slump) and have what many consider to be the #1 recruiting class in the country. I don't expect them to be a top ten team right away, but by the end of the season they'll be a good team. all that being said, i think they're a top 25 team right away. we'll see.

[HolyCow]

I find it hard to believe that the talent level can drop off that fast at Kansas. You know they have players.

just noticed that the location changed. Move go well? Sucks you had to leave Norman

[ousooner]

just noticed that the location changed. Move go well? Sucks you had to leave Norman

Move went fine, although moving sucks. Leaving Norman will just make the trips back all the more fun this fall.

[watchtower41]

it happens from time to time. they lose seniors and the pollsters act as if the sky is falling. when they lost Drew Gooden in 2002 after losing to Maryland in the national semifinals people thought they had lost their best chance to win. the following year they made it to the championship game. they had good freshmen this year (Kaun, Giles, Robinson) are returning Moody and Giddens (who should be over his sophomore slump) and have what many consider to be the #1 recruiting class in the country. I don't expect them to be a top ten team right away, but by the end of the season they'll be a good team. all that being said, i think they're a top 25 team right away. we'll see.



The top recruiting class alone has the Jayhawks in the Top 25. Comes as kind of surprise, Katz usually is pretty fair with the Jayhawks. The loss of Galindo does kinda hurt though, as we dont have a natural SF to replace him with. I doubt very much that we'll be left out of the pre-season top 25, were the Jayhawks damnit...... but if we are its because we may have to start 3 frosh from scratch, reason enough to doubt early on. :shrug Theyre certainly gonna have to grow up awfully quick if theyre gonna want to compete in the Maui Invatational.

[unccrombie]

At the end of Sportscenter, they reported that McCants is definitely leaving.
i agree with pti, none of them are "really good" nba picks

[DMBfan41]

i agree with pti, none of them are "really good" nba picks

bah, u just want them back next year.

What team would not want Sean May?

[seekupig]

The top recruiting class alone has the Jayhawks in the Top 25. Comes as kind of surprise, Katz usually is pretty fair with the Jayhawks. The loss of Galindo does kinda hurt though, as we dont have a natural SF to replace him with. I doubt very much that we'll be left out of the pre-season top 25, were the Jayhawks damnit...... but if we are its because we may have to start 3 frosh from scratch, reason enough to doubt early on. :shrug Theyre certainly gonna have to grow up awfully quick if theyre gonna want to compete in the Maui Invatational.

just found this on a recruiting website........

The University of Kansas Jayhawks have three players in the top 25 coming to Lawrence in the fall, Micah Downs, Mario Chalmers, and Julian Wright. These three will be filling the shoes of Wayne Simien, Aaron Miles, and Keith Langford, and I believe the newcomers are more talented as a trio.

:multi :multi


also found this. article about the three McDonald's recruits and a picture of the three of them together during the McDonald's game.

http://www.kusports.com/news/mens_hoop_recruiting/storypr/113932

[seekupig]

bah, u just want them back next year.

What team would not want Sean May?

not yet. he needs to work on his range. he's not big enough to play center and he's to slow and lacks the range in his jumpshot to play the four.

[rcarlsn612]

not yet. he needs to work on his range. he's not big enough to play center and he's to slow and lacks the range in his jumpshot to play the four. :thumbsup
ya, i'm hoping 2 of the 4 come back, if that happens, they have shot to repeat
ps: happy McCants is leaving, this coming from someone who bleeds carolina blue, he's another joe forte in the making

[DMBfan41]

so how bout that NCAA women's championship!

anybody, anybody?

[ousooner]

so how bout that NCAA women's championship!

anybody, anybody?

Pulling for Baylor and the Big 12

[unccrombie]

bah, u just want them back next year.

What team would not want Sean May?
thats not the point. may is still flabby, he needs to be more chisled and work on his moves. mccants is a good shooter, but way too much of an attitude problem. felton, ok, hes pretty solid, just needs to work on his thought process some more. marvin is a freshman. he showed it last night, stay in school kid. manuel and jawad will be missed, scott i never liked but he gave felton a break so good. quintin thomas scares the hell out of me, wow

[haildmb]

as long as Shelden comes back for next year(and I suspect that he will), my Blue Devils look quite good. Today is my least favorite day of the year, it's the longest I have to wait for basketball to return, it's awful.

And what's worse, that wait is being polluted by fucking Carolina. Go to hell carolina, or at least the nba (which is quite similar to hell) :D

[unccrombie]

as long as Shelden comes back for next year(and I suspect that he will), my Blue Devils look quite good. Today is my least favorite day of the year, it's the longest I have to wait for basketball to return, it's awful.

And what's worse, that wait is being polluted by fucking Carolina. Go to hell carolina, or at least the nba (which is quite similar to hell) :D
indeed. we need a "must stay" rule

[UNC41]

Sean May is coming back next year.

http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/366940.html

"You don't need to worry about me staying one more year - you need to worry about some of the other guys staying one more year," he told the more than 11,000 fans at the Smith Center Tuesday afternoon.

May recorded 26 points and 10 rebounds in Monday night's title game. He was the tournament scoring leader, and set the UNC season record for rebounds with 397, topping Antawn Jamison (389 in 1997-98).

"We're going to try and come back and do it next year. Along with that, I'm going to try and get some of these other guys to come back with me," May said as the crowd roared in response.

[ousooner]

Sean May is coming back next year.

http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/366940.html

"You don't need to worry about me staying one more year - you need to worry about some of the other guys staying one more year," he told the more than 11,000 fans at the Smith Center Tuesday afternoon.

May recorded 26 points and 10 rebounds in Monday night's title game. He was the tournament scoring leader, and set the UNC season record for rebounds with 397, topping Antawn Jamison (389 in 1997-98).

"We're going to try and come back and do it next year. Along with that, I'm going to try and get some of these other guys to come back with me," May said as the crowd roared in response.


I'll believe it when the draft deadline comes and goes.

[haildmb]

I'll believe it when the draft deadline comes and goes.


Indeed. Plenty of people have made that same claim only to bolt.

[UNC41]

I'll believe it when the draft deadline comes and goes.

Fair enough, but I think he'll be back. I'd love to have him and Felton return for their senior seasons under Roy, a la Hinrich and Collison.

[RJ2kWJ]

Fair enough, but I think he'll be back. I'd love to have him and Felton return for their senior seasons under Roy, a la Hinrich and Collison.

Didnt Carmelo say almost thesame thing on the same day?

[haildmb]

Fair enough, but I think he'll be back. I'd love to have him and Felton return for their senior seasons under Roy, a la Hinrich and Collison.


A lot of good that did for ole Roy :D

But I think May will be back too. Felton, I don't know.

[UNC41]

A lot of good that did for ole Roy :D

But I think May will be back too. Felton, I don't know.

It's wishful thinking to think any particular one of them will be back, although I don't think they lose all 4 underclassmen. Either way I won't complain after last night.

[haildmb]

although I don't think they lose all 4 underclassmen.


Yeah, I said the same thing after the 99 championship game :)

[devilish@darts]

:hump

[unccrombie]

Didnt Carmelo say almost thesame thing on the same day?
no, everyone in syracuse knew he was going if he won the title. he made no secret of his plans after winning

[ExistenceNow]

Indeed. Plenty of people have made that same claim only to bolt.

fucking TJ Ford... that lying piece of shit said he was %100 sure he was returning... then he got hurt in some shitty pick up game and saw all those zeros going away and decided to break his promise. I'm glad he has disappeared from the NBA... is he still with Milwaukee (sp?)?

[ousooner]

Unfortunately we don't have to worry about basketball players leaving early at OU.

[SevenMinarets]

WOOOHOOOOO CAROLINA IS THE SHIT!

ehem...sorry just had to get that off my chest...

WOOOHOOOOO!!

[seekupig]

WOOOHOOOOO CAROLINA IS THE SHIT!

ehem...sorry just had to get that off my chest...

WOOOHOOOOO!!

ATTENTION - BASKETBALL SEASON IS NOW OVER. PLEASE VACATE YOUR BANDWAGON IN AN ORDERLY FASHION.

[UNC41]

ATTENTION - BASKETBALL SEASON IS NOW OVER. PLEASE VACATE YOUR BANDWAGON IN AN ORDERLY FASHION.

:lol

[gbs3769]

So how about that game called Lacrosse?

- Matt

[ousooner]

ATTENTION - BASKETBALL SEASON IS NOW OVER. PLEASE VACATE YOUR BANDWAGON IN AN ORDERLY FASHION.

:thumbsup That's awsome!!!! :lol

Women and children first. Please, no pushing or shoving.

[seekupig]

So how about that game called Lacrosse?

- Matt

i live below the mason-dixon line, sorry.

[UNC41]

I'm suprised Ms. Jelly hasn't popped her head in here to tells us how "overrated" Illinois is for finishing second. :rolleyes

[seekupig]

:thumbsup That's awsome!!!! :lol

Women and children first. Please, no pushing or shoving.

normally i wouldn't do that, but anyone who's first post in a sports thread comes the day after the championship definately needs some direction on how to get off the bandwagon without hurting themself.:D

[gbs3769]

i live below the mason-dixon line, sorry.

According to laxpower...

#1 Virgina
#2 Johns Hopkins
#3 Duke
#5 Maryland
#9 Georgetown
#10 UNC

- Matt

[bdb23]

I'm suprised Ms. Jelly hasn't popped her head in here to tells us how "overrated" Illinois is for finishing second. :rolleyes
I'm waiting. That would just be over the top.

[UNC41]

normally i wouldn't do that, but anyone who's first post in a sports thread comes the day after the championship definately needs some direction on how to get off the bandwagon without hurting themself.:D

B-A-Y-L-O-R

[seekupig]

According to laxpower...

#1 Virgina
#2 Johns Hopkins
#3 Duke
#5 Maryland
#9 Georgetown
#10 UNC

- Matt

now show me how many of the players on those teams came from those areas. not being exposed to a sport in high-school generally leads to disinterest at the college level. cool sport, but i've never been around it.

[seekupig]

B-A-Y-L-O-R


WOO HOO! BIG XII KICKS MAJOR ASS IN WOMEN'S BASKETBALL! BAYLOR ROCKS, WOO HOO!!!

[UNC41]

I'm waiting. That would just be over the top.

I've got a feeling it will happen sometime, regardless that she picked them to win it all. I don't think I've told you, but hell of a game.

Edit: I just looked down and realized that I'm wearing a shirt that is striped orange and blue.

[seekupig]

I'm waiting. That would just be over the top.

she picked them to win it all, she can't say anything................ or so we think.:BANG

[clayj41]

i agree with pti, none of them are "really good" nba picks

I don't know. McCants is pretty selfish so he could be good in the NBA. :lol Seriously though, I think that both May and Felton could be decent players in the NBA. PTI really pissed me off yesterday though with the question of whether or not the best team won. Fuck 'em! Who's holding the national championship?

[UNC41]

PTI really pissed me off yesterday though with the question of whether or not the best team won. Fuck 'em! Who's holding the national championship?

:thumbsup

[gbs3769]

now show me how many of the players on those teams came from those areas. not being exposed to a sport in high-school generally leads to disinterest at the college level. cool sport, but i've never been around it.

Latest National High School Poll:

1. Manhasset (NY)
2. St. Paul's (MD)
3. West Genesee (NY)
4. Boys' Latin (MD)
5. Landon (MD)
6. McDonogh (MD)
7. Haverford (PA)
8. Gilman (MD)
9. West Islip (NY)
10. Darien (CT)
11. Deerfield (MA)
12. Loyola (MD)
13. Summit (NJ)
14. Ward Melville (NY)
15. Georgetown Prep (MD)
16. Northport (NY)
17. Farmingdale (NY)
18. Delbarton (NJ)
19. St. Anthony's (NY)
20. LaSalle (PA)
21. Massapequa (NY)
22. St. Mary's (MD)
23. Western Reserve Academy (OH)
24. Orchard Park (NY)
25. Calvert Hall (MD)

9 of the teams are from Maryland, and of course West Genny is just 10 miles down the road.

- Matt

[seekupig]

9 of the teams are from Maryland, and of course West Genny is just 10 miles down the road.

technically Maryland is below the Mason-Dixon line, but i wouldn't consider it a southern state. that's just me.

[unccrombie]

I don't know. McCants is pretty selfish so he could be good in the NBA. :lol Seriously though, I think that both May and Felton could be decent players in the NBA. PTI really pissed me off yesterday though with the question of whether or not the best team won. Fuck 'em! Who's holding the national championship?
yeah that pissed me off as well. they were just so high on illi they couldnt bare they lost :lol

[clayj41]

I'm sorry, I simply can't let this thread die. :lol

[ousooner]

I'm sorry, I simply can't let this thread die. :lol

:lol When I saw it just now, my first thought was damn, that thread just won't go away. No kidding :lol

Some of you guys need to adopt a college football team to get you by until hoops season.

[clayj41]

Hell, I still have baseball season, and college football is too far away. Oh, here's an interesting article I found on ESPN.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/ncaatourney05/news/story?id=2031053

[seekupig]

:lol When I saw it just now, my first thought was damn, that thread just won't go away. No kidding :lol

Some of you guys need to adopt a college football team to get you by until hoops season.

I'm a Kansas fan in football too. it's tough, but i manage. they beat K-State last year for the first time in a long time. they had Texas beat until the refs realized that the Big XII stood to lose a few million dollars if that score held up. a couple of bullshit offensive intereference calls gave Texas the ball back and they scored with a few seconds left to win.

looks like the Chiefs have made a few moves on defense, if it works out they're definately a threat again this year.

[watchtower41]

Random thought of the day.... boy am I glad that I dont have to see that Dick Vitale Hooters commercial any longer. Such a crying shame that one of my favorite establishments goes ahead and hires a clowndick for ads. Pick 'Em more annoying ad... Hootie's BK or Dick's Hooters.


Yep, the offseason is offically here.

[trippingbilly12]

Random thought of the day.... boy am I glad that I dont have to see that Dick Vitale Hooters commercial any longer. Such a crying shame that one of my favorite establishments goes ahead and hires a clowndick for ads. Pick 'Em more annoying ad... Hootie's BK or Dick's Hooters.


Yep, the offseason is offically here.

He has been doing shit with Hooters for a long time now. But those commericials are indeed very annoying.

[trippingbilly12]

looks like the Chiefs have made a few moves on defense, if it works out they're definately a threat again this year.

I am very excited for this season. I'm a huge chiefs fan, hopefully this year will be better

[UNC41]

Random thought of the day.... boy am I glad that I dont have to see that Dick Vitale Hooters commercial any longer. Such a crying shame that one of my favorite establishments goes ahead and hires a clowndick for ads. Pick 'Em more annoying ad... Hootie's BK or Dick's Hooters.


Yep, the offseason is offically here.

It's not delivery it's Digorno baby!

[ousooner]

This is a week old, but I just now found it:

Preseason Top 25: Sooners the better team
April 5, 2005
By Gregg Doyel
SportsLine.com Senior Writer
Tell Gregg your opinion!


Yes, Oklahoma. Absolutely, Oklahoma.

Oklahoma, which returns the top five scorers from this past season's 25-8 team, is CBS SportsLine.com's pick to win the 2006 national championship for three primary reasons:


Oklahoma's Nate Carter averaged 16 points and six rebounds in two seasons at UC Riverside. (Getty Images)
1. Nate Carter
2. Mike Neal
3. The 2005 NBA Draft


Carter is the 6-foot-6, 225-pound junior who redshirted this past season after transferring from UC Riverside. In two seasons there, he averaged 16 points and six rebounds per game. If that doesn't tell you how good he is, this should:

"Nate Carter would have started for us this season," Oklahoma coach Kelvin Sampson says.

Any more questions about Nate Carter?

As for Neal, he's a juco transfer along the lines of 2004-05 stars Taj Gray and Terrell Everett. The 6-4 Neal was considered the country's best juco shooting guard this season.

The NBA Draft is significant to the Sooners on two levels. One, Gray chose not to enter it; he'll enter 2005-06 as a candidate for national player of the year. Two, the other teams CBS SportsLine.com considered for the No. 1 ranking -- Duke, North Carolina, Connecticut and Louisville -- all could lose key players and/or recruits to the 2005 draft.

The CBS SportsLine.com Pre-Preseason Top 25:

1. Oklahoma: The last time the Sooners had this much talent and depth, they reached the 2002 Final Four. Oklahoma could have the country's best starting frontcourt next season in Gray, Carter and Kevin Bookout. The backcourt will be wicked deep with Everett, Neal, Lawrence McKenzie, Drew Lavender and David Godbold. That's eight quality players, and seven are juniors or seniors.


For the rest of the list:
http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/8359477

[clayj41]

I love seeing this thread topped!

[UNC41]

I love seeing this thread topped!

Heck yes.

I was meaning to do it today because of the dream I had last night. It was next year's opening game and the Tar Heels were playing Ohio State. Both May and McCants had stayed while Marvin and Felton went pro. The huge suprise of the game was Quentin Thomas. He went for 30 some points and 14 assists as the Heels rolled to a 15 point victory at the Dean Dome.

[Third Floor]

Quentin Thomas. He went for 30 some points and 14 assists
are you sure you werent drunk too?

[UNC41]

are you sure you werent drunk too?

It's a dream, Quentin putting up those numbers is about as likely as McCants staying. I know this. Your posts in this thread regarding any UNC post over the past couple weeks have been really negative. Is that because you are still bitter over All-American PG Chris Paul being outplayed by West Virginia's guard down the stretch as Wake lost in the second round?

[Third Floor]

cant a man dislike a team? i didnt know being nice to unc was a necessity to posting in this thread. i hate unc. the only things that i hate more than UNC in sports are duke, unc fans and the yankees. i dont like unc. ive said in this thread that last year they may have been the most talented team in the nation, but it doesnt mean im not gonna take any chance to take a knock at them. deal with it.

[haildmb]

FuckUnc

let this thread fade away until November. No, OU isn't winning any national championships, basketball or otherwise (yes, a bit below the belt)

[UNC41]

cant a man dislike a team? i didnt know being nice to unc was a necessity to posting in this thread. i hate unc. the only things that i hate more than UNC in sports are duke, unc fans and the yankees. i dont like unc. ive said in this thread that last year they may have been the most talented team in the nation, but it doesnt mean im not gonna take any chance to take a knock at them. deal with it.

Yup, still bitter.

[Third Floor]

Yup, still bitter.
Fuck UNC. my god. right now UNC fans, yes YOU, are making duke fans look modest, and thats hard to do.

[UNC41]

Fuck UNC. my god. right now UNC fans, yes YOU, are making duke fans look modest, and thats hard to do.

So what you are telling me is you can talk all the shit you want, but can't take any? If you can bash UNC why can't I bash Wake? UNC winning it all has nothing to do with my giving you shit because Wake lost in the second round.

[ousooner]

FuckUnc

let this thread fade away until November. No, OU isn't winning any national championships, basketball or otherwise (yes, a bit below the belt)

Hey, we just won our third mens gymnastics national championship in the last four years. That's a dynasty. :D We have the best AD (Joe Castiglione) and the best overall athletic program in the country.

[rcarlsn612]

this thread isn't going anywhere.
I heard shit all season about how carolina sucks, not a team, santa clara blah blah blah
I'm posting on this thread for awhile kids...

[ousooner]

this thread isn't going anywhere.
I heard shit all season about how carolina sucks, not a team, santa clara blah blah blah
I'm posting on this thread for awhile kids...

That's the way it should be. The winner deserves that right.

[UNC41]

That's the way it should be. The winner deserves that right.

I don't like to be the bearer of bad news, but I read in our student paper today that both McKenzie and Lavander are considering transferring from OU. It was in an article from an Orlando newspaper.

[ousooner]

I don't like to be the bearer of bad news, but I read in our student paper today that both McKenzie and Lavander are considering transferring from OU. It was in an article from an Orlando newspaper.

Yep, I saw it on the local news Sunday night. They said that McKenzie is leaving and that Lavender is considering leaving. I'm sure it has something to do with Terrel Everett and the juco shooting guard coming in. I guess they don't want to be backup contributors on a potentially great team. They will be tought to beat, but they would have been really tough to beat with five good guards. Hopefully Lavender wises up and sticks. He would share the point with Everett and it would be his as a senior. McKenzie was a great spark off the bench with his three point shooting.

[gbs3769]

In other news, my University of South Florida Bulls (in ESPN 2K5) are ranked #1 preseason for the third season in a row.

Charleston Southern: 6 years, 1 National Championship
Mount St. Mary's: 4 years, 1 National Championship
Illinois State: 11 years, 3 National Championships
USF: 6 years, 0 National Championships

I just want to get to Syracuse already. Hell, I'd take UConn if the game's version of Calhoun would just retire.

- Matt

[ousooner]

In other news, my University of South Florida Bulls (in ESPN 2K5) are ranked #1 preseason for the third season in a row.

Charleston Southern: 6 years, 1 National Championship
Mount St. Mary's: 4 years, 1 National Championship
Illinois State: 11 years, 3 National Championships
USF: 6 years, 0 National Championships

I just want to get to Syracuse already. Hell, I'd take UConn if the game's version of Calhoun would just retire.

- Matt

Third season in a row without cutting down the nets. Sounds like a coaching problem.

[gbs3769]

Third season in a row without cutting down the nets. Sounds like a coaching problem.

Last season I got screwed on a call by the refs with 1.2 seconds left in the NC game and ended up losing by a foul shot.

The first season, I wasn't as good as the #1 ranking as most of my quality players graduated.

The second season, I should have won but got knocked out early to the eventual champions.

- Matt

[UNC41]

Looks like Wake might fall back to the middle of the pack in the ACC.

http://www.nbadraft.net/draftbuzz032.asp

[unccrombie]

Looks like Wake might fall back to the middle of the pack in the ACC.

http://www.nbadraft.net/draftbuzz032.asp
damn. that blows

[seekupig]

damn. that blows

not really. that's classic Wake. they have a good team every once in awhile with a couple of stars that gets a lot of hype, they make an early exit in the tournament then they go back to being Wake. a middle of the pack team in a really good conference that might be the third or fourth best team in the state of north carolina.

[unccrombie]

not really. that's classic Wake. they have a good team every once in awhile with a couple of stars that gets a lot of hype, they make an early exit in the tournament then they go back to being Wake. a middle of the pack team in a really good conference that might be the third or fourth best team in the state of north carolina.
meaning i liked paul. i could care less if wake sucks :lol

[seekupig]

ATTENTION TARHEEL FANS!!!!

heard this on local sports talk radio as well as written on a local sports writer's website. it's not concrete but figured i'd share since word's been pretty quiet out of Chapel Hill in recent days.........

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
WILL THEY STAY OR WILL THEY GO?

Raymond Felton - Recently named the best point guard in America, Felton said yesterday, "Whatever's best for me, I'll do." That's fair enough. But, we can't imagine his stock being much higher. Some experts project him as a possible NBA lottery pick or at worst a first round pick. Fast as lightning point guards with a good shot don't come around too often. PREDICTION: GONE

Sean May - Did this guy's stock soar through the roof the last couple months? Awarded Regional and Finals MVP awards after dominating performances. Two months ago he said he was staying at UNC for sure. Yesterday he said, " There's no telling what might happen." His game just won't be nearly as good without Felton in the game. PREDICTION: GONE (if Felton goes)

Marvin Williams - He could go #1 in the draft and no worse than #3. PREDICTION: GONE (no doubt).

Rashad McCants - Well, he's already announced that he'll have a press conference very soon. May said yesterday, "I've known for awhile Rashad was leaving." PREDICTION: GONE

[unccrombie]

prediction, prediction, prediction. until we hear something im just counting on mccants

[UNC41]

ATTENTION TARHEEL FANS!!!!

heard this on local sports talk radio as well as written on a local sports writer's website. it's not concrete but figured i'd share since word's been pretty quiet out of Chapel Hill in recent days.........

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
WILL THEY STAY OR WILL THEY GO?

Raymond Felton - Recently named the best point guard in America, Felton said yesterday, "Whatever's best for me, I'll do." That's fair enough. But, we can't imagine his stock being much higher. Some experts project him as a possible NBA lottery pick or at worst a first round pick. Fast as lightning point guards with a good shot don't come around too often. PREDICTION: GONE

Sean May - Did this guy's stock soar through the roof the last couple months? Awarded Regional and Finals MVP awards after dominating performances. Two months ago he said he was staying at UNC for sure. Yesterday he said, " There's no telling what might happen." His game just won't be nearly as good without Felton in the game. PREDICTION: GONE (if Felton goes)

Marvin Williams - He could go #1 in the draft and no worse than #3. PREDICTION: GONE (no doubt).

Rashad McCants - Well, he's already announced that he'll have a press conference very soon. May said yesterday, "I've known for awhile Rashad was leaving." PREDICTION: GONE

I've realized over the past week that everyone leaving is something that could very well happen. If anyone is likely to stay I'd think its May. He said last night, “I met with Coach [Roy Williams] last night, and right now, it’s pretty much the same thing,” which seems to indicate he is looking at staying. I think Marvin could reallly use another year before making the jump. He'd be a top 3 pick based on potential, but his offensive game isn't nearly as polished as it would need to be for him to succeed in the NBA. One more year could grately improve that. Both Felton and Marvin have made their decisons, just aren't ready to announce yet.

[seekupig]

I've realized over the past week that everyone leaving is something that could very well happen. If anyone is likely to stay I'd think its May. He said last night, “I met with Coach [Roy Williams] last night, and right now, it’s pretty much the same thing,” which seems to indicate he is looking at staying. I think Marvin could reallly use another year before making the jump. He'd be a top 3 pick based on potential, but his offensive game isn't nearly as polished as it would need to be for him to succeed in the NBA. One more year could grately improve that. Both Felton and Marvin have made their decisons, just aren't ready to announce yet.

the reason i think it's possible is that even though May probably wants to stay, i don't think he's going to want to play his senior year without everyone else. If Felton stays, May stays. i don't see him staying with a new point guard. from a business standpoint, that could only hurt his draft stock.

[UNC41]

the reason i think it's possible is that even though May probably wants to stay, i don't think he's going to want to play his senior year without everyone else. If Felton stays, May stays. i don't see him staying with a new point guard. from a business standpoint, that could only hurt his draft stock.

I agree 100%, but am still holding out hope that one or two will return. It would suck if everyone left, but I won't be complaining because they won it all and you really have no right to bitch then.

[dmb1spe]

Personally, I don't think May is ready, but his stock might never be as high as it is right now. Better jump while the jumping is good.

[bustdstuff]

All this is just fabulous news for my Devils and the B E A utiful recruiting class we're bringing in. JJ's gonna look good as a senior. And just a thought for the UNC fans, at least you'll see the ACC win another national title. :evil

[seekupig]

It would suck if everyone left, but I won't be complaining because they won it all and you really have no right to bitch then.

i couldn't agree more. and neither could the writer of this dandy........ :D

----------------------------------------------------------------------------


Roy Williams has led UNC to the national championship, riding on the backs of Matt Doherty's recruits. He did his best to choke, blowing a 15 point halftime lead. But a couple well timed three pointers saved him.A hearty congratulations to the Tarheels for defeating Illinois 75-70 in the championship game.
It's not that difficult to endure the pain of another UNC championship. It has o­nly happened four times in history. The bad thing is we'll have to endure all the bandwagoners coming out of the closet until the Tarheels lose to the EA All Stars in December....minus Marvin, May, McCants, and Raymond.
Next year: Quentin/Reyshawn/Hansbrough....sounds very similar to BMo/Capel/Lang. We can o­nly hope. By the way...Carolina still sucks. The team is good, but the fans still suck.

A Record Breaking Tournament:

- UNC set a NCAA Tournament record for easiest path to the final game. No other team in history has failed to play at least a #4 seed before advancing to the championship game.

- Illinois' James Augustine set a Final Four record by fouling out after playing just nine minutes. No player has ever fouled out quicker unintentionally.

- The Illini almost set a Final Four record by o­nly attempting 6 free throws. It is the second fewest total in history. UNLV holds the record of 5 FT attempts, set in 1977..........against UNC.

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obviously a little biased, but still funny if you don't take it seriously.

[UNC41]

i couldn't agree more. and neither could the writer of this dandy........ :D

----------------------------------------------------------------------------


Roy Williams has led UNC to the national championship, riding on the backs of Matt Doherty's recruits. He did his best to choke, blowing a 15 point halftime lead. But a couple well timed three pointers saved him.A hearty congratulations to the Tarheels for defeating Illinois 75-70 in the championship game.
It's not that difficult to endure the pain of another UNC championship. It has o­nly happened four times in history. The bad thing is we'll have to endure all the bandwagoners coming out of the closet until the Tarheels lose to the EA All Stars in December....minus Marvin, May, McCants, and Raymond.
Next year: Quentin/Reyshawn/Hansbrough....sounds very similar to BMo/Capel/Lang. We can o­nly hope. By the way...Carolina still sucks. The team is good, but the fans still suck.

A Record Breaking Tournament:

- UNC set a NCAA Tournament record for easiest path to the final game. No other team in history has failed to play at least a #4 seed before advancing to the championship game.

- Illinois' James Augustine set a Final Four record by fouling out after playing just nine minutes. No player has ever fouled out quicker unintentionally.

- The Illini almost set a Final Four record by o­nly attempting 6 free throws. It is the second fewest total in history. UNLV holds the record of 5 FT attempts, set in 1977..........against UNC.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

obviously a little biased, but still funny if you don't take it seriously.

Little biased? Still, its pretty funny as long as the writer realizes he's not making good points.

[bustdstuff]

I'm trying to figure out why the guy's computer/typewriter couldn't simply spit out 'only'.

[seekupig]

Little biased? Still, its pretty funny as long as the writer realizes he's not making good points.

he's not trying to make good points, just get a laugh. (though the facts at the bottom of the article are legit.)

[seekupig]

I'm trying to figure out why the guy's computer/typewriter couldn't simply spit out 'only'.

that happened when i copied and pasted. the original (don't tell where i got it, steph;) ) didn't have those errors in it.

[UNC41]

he's not trying to make good points, just get a laugh. (though the facts at the bottom of the article are legit.)

Legit, but very skewed. There is a reason Illinois shot so few free throws, and it wasn't biased reffing. The Illini absolutely refused to attack the basket during the game. And its not like Augustine didn't commit those fouls.

I did laugh though so mission accomplished by the writer.

[UNC41]

that happened when i copied and pasted. the original (don't tell where i got it, steph;) ) didn't have those errors in it.

Ohh the powers of google. :D

[rcarlsn612]

if you shoot 40 3's your not going to get to the line much
as many haters have come out as there are bandwagon fans.
i've said it before, if 2 of the 3 stay(mccants is going, and i'm happy about that) they have a shot to go far next year too.
Rayshawn Terry-next years Jawad

[seekupig]

Ohh the powers of google. :D

:lol

www.carolinasucks.com (http://www.carolinasucks.com)

to keep the playing field level.......

www.thetruthaboutduke.com (http://www.thetruthaboutduke.com)

[UNC41]

if you shoot 40 3's your not going to get to the line much
as many haters have come out as there are bandwagon fans.
i've said it before, if 2 of the 3 stay(mccants is going, and i'm happy about that) they have a shot to go far next year too.
Rayshawn Terry-next years Jawad

I like Reyshawn to step up and do good things next year also. I think he's more a wing than Jawad. He's more athletic and has a better outside shot. Hopefully there won't be any growing pains in adjusting to a big time role.

[seekupig]

1.) if you shoot 40 3's your not going to get to the line much
2.) as many haters have come out as there are bandwagon fans.
3.) i've said it before, if 2 of the 3 stay(mccants is going, and i'm happy about that) they have a shot to go far next year too.
4.) Rayshawn Terry-next years Jawad

1.) i agree
2.) no way. (you never had the UNC avatar until they made the final four.;) )
3.) there's four players to worry about, and unless Felton stays, the others don't matter.
4.) :lol :lol :lol :lol

[UNC41]

McCants just made what was already widely known official and declared himself for the draft. I haven't heard if he is hiring an agent or not.

Florida's Anthony Roberson has also made himself eligible, but won't hire an agent. I don't seem him going back to Florida regardless of the fact that he'll be a second round pick.

[seekupig]

McCants just made what was already widely known official and declared himself for the draft. I haven't heard if he is hiring an agent or not.

Florida's Anthony Roberson has also made himself eligible, but won't hire an agent. I don't seem him going back to Florida regardless of the fact that he'll be a second round pick.

good find.

Here's a list of some early entrees for the NBA with some notes added.


Hassan Adams Arizona Jr.
Kelenna Azubuike Kentucky Jr.
Andrew Bogut Utah So.
Brandon Bowman Georgetown Jr.
Ike Diogu Arizona St. Jr.
Francisco Garcia Louisville Jr.
Gerald Green Gulf Shores Academy Sr. HS
J.R. Morris Seton Hall Jr.
Charlie Villanueva Connecticut So.
Von Wafer Florida St. So.
Kennedy Winston Alabama Jr.


Only Bogut, Garcia and Villanueva have signed with agents. The rest haven't thus they can decide to go back to school if they don't like their draft position. I think that's a great rule. It gives a kid a chance to test the market yet not make him ineligible. Guys like Wafer and Bowman will probably not get draft and if they do it will be late 2nd round. Both of those guys should not have declared. They have a bunch of talent but need a little more seasoning especially Wafer who had a awful second half of the year. In fact he scored only six points the last four games of the season as Florida St imploded and lost 10 of their last 11 games.

[UNC41]

good find.

Here's a list of some early entrees for the NBA with some notes added.


Hassan Adams Arizona Jr.
Kelenna Azubuike Kentucky Jr.
Andrew Bogut Utah So.
Brandon Bowman Georgetown Jr.
Ike Diogu Arizona St. Jr.
Francisco Garcia Louisville Jr.
Gerald Green Gulf Shores Academy Sr. HS
J.R. Morris Seton Hall Jr.
Charlie Villanueva Connecticut So.
Von Wafer Florida St. So.
Kennedy Winston Alabama Jr.


Only Bogut, Garcia and Villanueva have signed with agents. The rest haven't thus they can decide to go back to school if they don't like their draft position. I think that's a great rule. It gives a kid a chance to test the market yet not make him ineligible. Guys like Wafer and Bowman will probably not get draft and if they do it will be late 2nd round. Both of those guys should not have declared. They have a bunch of talent but need a little more seasoning especially Wafer who had a awful second half of the year. In fact he scored only six points the last four games of the season as Florida St imploded and lost 10 of their last 11 games.

You can add Deron Williams to that list of players that have declared but not hired an agent. The guys I think that will for sure go in the first round out of that list is Deron, Bogut, Digou, Garcia, Green, Villanueva, and Winston.

Edit: Bracey Wright announced he's going and will hire an agent at the end of the semster.

[clayj41]

Edit: Bracey Wright announced he's going and will hire an agent at the end of the semster.

...and people on campus couldn't be happier. :lol

[unccrombie]

i liked bracey wright. anywho, now that 'cantsy is gone all i can do is hope we'll get felton and may

[unccrombie]

and steph, you're a mariner fan too? rock on

[bustdstuff]

and steph, you're a mariner fan too? rock on


Saw my first MLB game at the Kingdome in '84. Yes this is sadly my 21st season with them.

[unccrombie]

Saw my first MLB game at the Kingdome in '84. Yes this is sadly my 21st season with them.
ahhhhhh sweet. sadly, i started in the bhuner, griffey, arod, johnson era. ever since then i haven't turned away

[UNC41]

Wake could really be decimated next year. Chris Paul is leaving today and probably signing with an agent and Eric Williams announced last night he's testing the waters and not hiring an agent.

[seekupig]

Saw my first MLB game at the Kingdome in '84. Yes this is sadly my 21st season with them.

:thumbsup

i saw my first baseball game at Royals Stadium in 78, but went to several Mariners games in the Kingdome when i lived in Tacoma from 80-85. shitty turf/dome venue, but fun anyways.

[Third Floor]

Wake could really be decimated next year. Chris Paul is leaving today and probably signing with an agent and Eric Williams announced last night he's testing the waters and not hiring an agent.
eric's coming back.

[UNC41]

eric's coming back.

Probabaly, but not definately.

http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArti cle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031782139189&path=%21sports&s=1037645509200

[paris72]

Azubuike signed with an agent a week ago

















...bastard

[Third Floor]

Probabaly, but not definately.

http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArti cle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031782139189&path=%21sports&s=1037645509200
i give it 98% that hes coming back. i was at the driving range and talked to a guy who works in the Athletic department, who basically told me he's coming back. im notworried about eric, hes not projected to be drafted this year.

[seekupig]

i give it 98% that hes coming back. i was at the driving range and talked to a guy who works in the Athletic department, who basically told me he's coming back. im notworried about eric, hes not projected to be drafted this year.

i agree.

unless he goes to the pre-draft camps and dominates, he'll be back next year. he hasn't signed an agent for a reason. crazier things have happened, but i'd expect to see him next season in Winston.....

[paris72]

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Fuck, I miss college hoops BAD! :lorraine

[clayj41]

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Fuck, I miss college hoops BAD! :lorraine

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

[paris72]

Lord help this team!!! :lol

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/3543058

[clayj41]

Lord help this team!!! :lol

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/3543058

:thumbsup :lol

[dmb1spe]

Is it Midnight Madness yet??? Why can't it be October!!!

[seekupig]

Lord help this team!!! :lol

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/3543058

maybe he can recruit a national championship caliber team, then get fired in time for a big name coach to come in and take them all the way.:rolleyes

[clayj41]

maybe he can recruit a national championship caliber team, then get fired in time for a big name coach to come in and take them all the way.:rolleyes

Smartass! :lol

[rcarlsn612]

who won the title?
i've been in a cave the past month

[haildmb]

who won the title?
i've been in a cave the past month


NC State did, it was crazy. Tie game with only a few seconds on the clock, Engin Atsur hoisted a near half court heave which fell dreadfully short. Fortunately Julius Hodge was there to pick it up and throw it down to give State the 2 point win. Herb Sendek went running looking for someone to hug, and the campus went crazy...

[seekupig]

who won the title?
i've been in a cave the past month

you remember. the team that forced you into an avatar change once the Final Four was set.;)

[seekupig]

on ESPN.com, Joe Lunardi already has his first edition of 2006 bracketology up. interesting to look it, even though a lot will change in the coming weeks. it'll be fun to see how he changes his seeding as players jump to the NBA.

#1 seeds - Duke, UConn, 'Nova, Oklahoma

other thread notables.....

UNC - #2 seed
Illinois - #6 seed
Kansas - #5 seed
Wake Forest - #4 seed
Arizona - #5 seed
Syracuse - #7 seed
NC State - #10 seed

http://sports-att.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology